Great Escape Week - The Aftermath and the hunt for the Gestapo Murderers
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Great Escape Week - The Aftermath and the hunt for the Gestapo Murderers
With Guy Walters
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To commemorate the 77th anniversary of the "Great Escape" from Stalag Luft III on the night of 24/25 March 1944 we have lined up a series of shows about the history.
Although over 70 men successfully exited the tunnel most were recaptured and 50 of those were then murdered by the Gestapo. Our guest today is British historian Guy Walters, who gave a fresh account of the escape in his book "The Real Great Escape" but also looked at the postwar efforts to hunt and bring to justice the men who ordered the executions. Guy also published Hunting Evil, a history of how the Nazi war criminals escaped after the war, and how they were brought to justice. So he is the perfect guest to talk about this sad part of the history.
Guy Walters - The Real Great Escape
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Ww2 is my fav historical genre. It never ceases to amaze me how many interesting stories there are still to learn about. Guy’s books are the best.
Im SO GLAD Guy has a blog I can follow. I LOVE learning from him, he is GREAT!!!
I really enjoyed learning about the real escape and the truth about the average allied POW during the war.
A fascinating subject.
Guy was another very interesting and eloquent guest. Based on this episode I have invested in his book "The Real Great Escape" but I've had to settle for the Kindle version as I'm stuck in Colombia at the moment.
Thanks again for another wonderful presentation.
Thanks, and yes Guy is brilliant
Fantastic shows on The Great Escape. Good mix of academia and human interest. I gave 2 more episodes before I cap it off with the panel discussion. Yeah I saw the movie a long time ago. Steve McQueen’s role kind of fit his other movie rolls. Bullet, the racing movie… those “tough guy” roles. Carry on.
I love Guy Walters, such a wonderful voice,and just so full of interesting knowledge!!!!!!!!😁🇬🇧
This was amazing. Every time this came on TV as I grew up I watched and of course when so much was debunked in 2000 on PBS this was such a thrilling exposition. Thank you, writing from the US (where we all blend in, I hope to never have to test).
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ 3:05 The memories may fade over time. Those guys “were there”- a traumatic and psychological experiences I’m sure a just below the surface. Still academics plays a great roll in piecing together the puzzle as well. Good stuff!!
What a great talk... thank you Guy and Paul. You mentioned a number of book that have now made it onto my gift list.
Thank you
Great points of view / interpretations. @ 2:58
Your channel is brilliant Paul and this episode was right up there,Guy Walters was great too,I must mention a book which I''ve just read which is Human Game by Simon Read and covers the hunt and capture of most of the Gestapo murderers
A great episode again, with yet another eloquent and knowledgeable guest.
Excellent show, thanks Guy and Paul.
That was brilliant! Thanks very much Paul & Guy!
Just bought Guy’s book. This is a re-watch show
As I listen, I try to put myself in the minds of those men who followed Roger Bushell, and while maybe the mass escape didn't slow down the Nazi war machine when an invasion was soon expected, I could imagine thinking this tactic would help the allies; the Germans' resources now heavily strained. From the POWs' pov, how could it NOT help? Esp. since they had a whole escape commission set up throughout Europe in alliance with the resistance groups (which is partly how 3 made it all the way home). Seems to me they probably DID think of their organized escape efforts as part of the resistance.
Remember that British and Americans air flyers were not the only prisoners Germany had to deal with. Germany was literally dealing with Russian POWs, slave labor, concentration camp prisoners.
What made all the other POW camps worse than STALAG III? I recall / understand in all camps Red Cross packages were withheld / rummaged through by the German, poorly heated barracks’s etc… I realize the Luft Stalags were run by the Luftwaffe so there was “some” mutual respect? So what was difference between this camp and other POW camps?
I think you can cite three impacts. First, the German leadership did have to discuss this issue and you can argue the German leadership had better things to do then talk about 50 escaped POWs. Second, the fact that the escape could not have occurred with help from the German guards showed the rot developing within Germany. The rot was not yet extensive, but after 5 years of war the German people were showing the strain. Third, the Germans did have to divert resources to capture the POWs. It might have been for only a few weeks, but that effort still needed to be made. One final point, when it comes to POW camps in Germany, Stalag Luft III is the one discussed extensively in history. The actions of those men succeeded in keeping alive the memory of all allied POWs. That might be their greatest legacy.
Have you ever watched the second great escape movie, The untold story that had Christopher reeves in it. Not the greatest movie ever made but with some details it is closer to what happened. Great episode, I enjoyed watching it.
Yep, it has some good parts and some stupid parts
Great show Paul and Guy. Wished I saw it live & I would have asked this question - I saw a British WW2 film of British POW's located near a town and some POW's had a daily parole to go into the town and do general labor and return by a certain time, unguarded. Could this be real? If I remembered the star of the film I would look in an index to find out the name of the movie. Thanks again and love your channel Paul.
Will Steve McQueen get over the wire the next time I watch The Great Escape?
'mericans had to be in American financed movie.
How many young men are walking around out of uniform?
Somebody had to be a scape goat!
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following orders my arse.
44:35 lol. Listed everyone except Canadians. Typical. Oh well.😂
That's not fair. Of the 8 shows in the week, 2 were with Canadian historians and a third had predominantly Canadian POW family members. The Canadian aspect has very much been shown
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And I appreciate you doing that.
I also appreciate guy Walters excellent work. What makes it noticeable is that, as you say, you had a day of Canadian stories that he watched part of. You would think he would have remembered.😂
It’s more an observation about historiography than anything else.
I’ve noticed after many years and reading many books and watching lots of documentaries about both wars that British historians, in general, are blind, indifferent, or simply uninterested to Canadian contributions.
I understand that Canada is a small media market and you have to play to your audience but I compare it to the relative tongue bath that they give to Australians, New Zealanders, or just about any other nationalities I have to wonder if there isn’t something else going on as it seems to be consistent and universal.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s ok to have favourites and the brits will always have more cultural affinities to those countries but it’s just so true to form and noticeable especially after your day of Canadian stories.
Jock colville even mentions that he found Canadians boring and preferred hanging around the Australians. I have to admit there’s something to that😂.
Be well and keep up the good work.
From a patron
I agree that the Canadian contribution is overlooked by some, but not on Ww2TV. As you know, I've had lots of Canadian historians on and will continue to do so
What a great talk... thank you Guy and Paul. You mentioned a number of book that have now made it onto my gift list.