they do look like dates, don't they? in the shape and size and ripe and unripe color, in how they ripen - including how you can have strings of them with ripening fruits. i've wanted to try this type of persimmon for a while. thanks for showing it.
Once i got lucky and found a tree in January (after lots of snow). The fruits were still on but dried like raisins, and tasted same as dates. Looks like birds and bugs don't eat them. Definitely a forgotten fruit, it used to be more popular before Kaki came over from China/Japan.
diospyros are almost all dioecious and shouldnt produce fruit at all alone, but there are parthenocarpic varieties. edit: wait why did i get recommended a 2yo video 😂
I must say that I just cannot handle astringent persimmons. They're so hard to time right and so unpleasant if you don't, and the weird stringy texture is just a bit too much for me. But thankfully I love Fuyu persimmons (and find that they have plenty of flavour to spare despite the complaints of some people) and I have a very happy small tree. I am however curious as I don't exactly get the whole "date-plum" taste with kaki. Is that unique to D. lotus in particular? And is it worth pursuing? Or should I just stick with my fuyus and call it a day? I figure the fact that they were thoroughly replaced by D. kaki and D. virginiana despite being used for millennia prior says enough unfortunately.
Sometimes the taste resembles dates. And they were not replaced everywhere because they are more frost hardy than kaki. I think most Europeans are just boring with fruits
Don't they have a lot of seeds? I tried some in the botanical garden in munich and they were basically all seeds and really astringent, even in late november
Thank you. Good info.
Never seen them before. I wish i could try them.
You are welcome. I think the kaki competition eradicated them
they do look like dates, don't they? in the shape and size and ripe and unripe color, in how they ripen - including how you can have strings of them with ripening fruits. i've wanted to try this type of persimmon for a while. thanks for showing it.
You are welcome. Btw you can dry strings of kaki at home. I plan to show a vid on it
Once i got lucky and found a tree in January (after lots of snow). The fruits were still on but dried like raisins, and tasted same as dates. Looks like birds and bugs don't eat them. Definitely a forgotten fruit, it used to be more popular before Kaki came over from China/Japan.
Lots of seeds though. Not unpleasant ( not gritty) but not a lot of flesh
Maybe there are less seeds when you have only one tree
diospyros are almost all dioecious and shouldnt produce fruit at all alone, but there are parthenocarpic varieties.
edit: wait why did i get recommended a 2yo video 😂
Interesting
How about some plum pudding?
Much love xoxox
I must say that I just cannot handle astringent persimmons. They're so hard to time right and so unpleasant if you don't, and the weird stringy texture is just a bit too much for me. But thankfully I love Fuyu persimmons (and find that they have plenty of flavour to spare despite the complaints of some people) and I have a very happy small tree.
I am however curious as I don't exactly get the whole "date-plum" taste with kaki. Is that unique to D. lotus in particular? And is it worth pursuing? Or should I just stick with my fuyus and call it a day? I figure the fact that they were thoroughly replaced by D. kaki and D. virginiana despite being used for millennia prior says enough unfortunately.
Sometimes the taste resembles dates. And they were not replaced everywhere because they are more frost hardy than kaki. I think most Europeans are just boring with fruits
Don't they have a lot of seeds? I tried some in the botanical garden in munich and they were basically all seeds and really astringent, even in late november
Most are very astringent but not this one. And most i have tried have few seeds maybe due to lack of pollinators
The only good ones I had were after a frost and almost dried. And yes lots of seeds, Like a miniature pumpkin. Not much of flesh.
@@azael1474 yes, most lotus plums are like that
Did you say Weinheim Schloss garten?
Yes
A Northern Japanese method is to spray the exterior skin of this fruit with an alcohol (saki). Leave for a while. The flavour will improve
Looks tasty! Have you tried D. virginiana? They look much like this, but twice the diameter.
Once. But they were astringent