Still the world's fastest booting PC in 2021?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The star of an unexpectedly viral video from 10 years ago faces a new rival: its direct successor! Will the Tandy 1000RL from 1990 remain the World's Fastest Booting PC? Watch and find out...
#vintage #tandy #pc
PC drag racing is my new passion
That's the kind of computer drag racing in which Todd Togers can finally prove and improve his record!
We had a Pentium, fastest it went was about 50kmh.
Then the rope snapped.... Yeah, had to try hitting speedbumps while towing a mid tower.
@@woldemunster9244 This PC boot faster than a Windows 10 PC with SSD
@@MichaelComputerBoy I know. I use fast ssd as my boot drive.
I don't think it's exactly PC drag racing.
The people who disliked are just jealous because their Commodore 64 doesn’t boot as fast as your Tandy
That has to be the first time anything even remotely close to that sentence has been said since the 90s.
I keep both of mine on sharing a 1084. 😊
@@ArmourGX I have no doubt that what you said is 100% true.
I might down vote because I think the Tandy TRS-80 CoCo series booted faster
🤣
I'll be back after 10 years when it gets recommended to everyone by the algorithms
Lol actually good idea ill be here too
Lol actually good idea ill be here three
Me five
It got recommended to me randomly.
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The fact that the thing still boots up and runs is testament to quality engineering. CRT noise is just part of the charm of older systems.
Charm? Those old tube monitors and TV's used to hurt my ears! I'm so glad they're gone! But, now that I'm older, I would have to put my ear right up to the monitor to hear it anyway.
And with modern highend PC that whine comes from the GPU.
@@beardsntools Highly recommend the new Pi HDMI mod that lets you send crisp, lag-free HDMI out from something like this via a Raspberry pi zero. Very cool project.
@@theclearsounds3911 The CRT has a lot of things about it that are lost in current televisions to this day. The color scale being incredible, scaling capabilities being insane and just a whole lot more I couldn't put into one comment.
The downside being their heavy weight, fuzz until the very late HD models that didn't last and the same ending statement as my first paragraph.
I hope someday, a modern television can inherit from the CRT more. Would also be nice if they made OLED 1080p too. or at least 1440p.
I was always worried more about my eyes, rather than ears. 85Hz refresh solved the issue, but not completely. Some breaks were always needed.
Flip side of the coin is that LCDs catch the signal bloody slow or from the wrong input. I use one monitor plugged to 2 pc-s. 1st is DVI, 2nd is VGA.
Issue? Vendor (Philips in my case) implemented some auto detecting crap-ware rather than hard-coded selection from settings menu. This results the signal being switched to VGA each time DVI goes into sleep, reboots or turns off. Nonsense...
I was a lead on the MS-DOS ROM team, thank you for sharing old tech. Brings back old memories.
You were really doing the Lord's work with that, and I can tell you I was VERY happy with the boot time when my family went from a 1000 to a 1000TL.
@@Alewort Why is everyone saying "doing the Lord's work" so much recently?
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 To get to the other side?
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 because doing so is doing the Lord’s work.
@@baddestmofoalive If God didn't want you do it, it ain't.
10 years later: "is it STILL the world's fastest booting PC in 2031?"
* 10 years later *
RISC V CPUs: surprise mofos!
I'll watch it
Chances are good: as Wirth's Law states, software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster. :)
I'm here from 2041 and it's still in my recommended. It hit 4 billions views back in the 2030s as the millennials and Gen-Xers aged.
@@thromboid i thought they called that "andy and bills law" or "grove and gates law", as in "that which andy grove (ceo of intel at the time) giveth, bill gates (you already know this guy no doubt) taketh away"
the legend: still alive
the computer: still alive too
That's amazing!!!
Theory: they are bonded together. When one dies, so does the other.
The 286 actually starts in real mode, because it has no way to return from protected mode internally. That's why a convoluted method of using the keyboard controller was created to entirely reset the processor to switch back to real mode.
I came here to say the same thing. Exiting protected mode is a hilarious and total hack bolted on to the hardware after the chip was done, bit the later developed triple fault method that can also work on a 386 is just beautiful! :)
For those wanting to know more about this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A20_line
@@michaelkreitzer1369 I thought the ROM switched it into protected mode, then changed it back to real mode. Not sure about these old computers, but I think that's how modern ones worked. I was looking for open source BIOS ROMs, and all I could find used protected mode.
@@Programmdude you're not actually wrong. The BIOS would need to switch into protected mode to count and test the RAM. Then back into real mode to start the operating system, then Himem loads and switches to and from protected mode to do another memory test.
My brain hurts just thinking of the number of times the 80286 processor gets reset during the runtime of a typical application that uses XMS to expand its data caching (which is the only thing a real mode program can use it for -- the XMS driver gets given a buffer in conventional memory to copy to/from extended memory).
Tandy to M1: I’m not challenging you to surpass me. Match me.
I know lightweight Linux distros can boot pretty quick on a PC, I kind of want to know how quickly a base Arch install can boot up on the M1 running off the internal SSD. Probably still can't top this due to the overhead of the EFI and modern bootstrap procedures taking much more time than executing some instructions off a ROM chip. I'd test, but I don't really feel like backing up my entire system, nuking the drive, and then trying to get a 1TB image back on the system, with the best option available to help being a 2006 iMac (so no using Target Disk Mode to "flash" the machine over Thunderbolt).
so my base gentoo install with dwm, boots like basically instantly, especially with msi fastboot
@@thetechconspiracy2 It doesn't use EFI, it uses something more like the iOS bootloader.
@@tarstarkusz I take you're not running windows
@@Nighterlev But not that long without updates, my system is stable af but updates are every week and always reboots the system
Even by modern standards the board layouts are super clean and there's really not a lot of stuff in there. It's clear they were designed for easy manufacturing. My first computer was a government surplus Dell in the 90s and it was a rats nest inside compared to this.
Tandy was something else in the computer space 🚀
@@atomicradiotheater YEah and now its reborn into a zombie brand selling cheap no name accessories
That thunder in the background just adds that bit of "you're sitting in front of your PC on a rainy day" ambiance, I love it!
This reminds me of the terror of getting a new HDD - "BIOS: Tell me the tale of how many sectors, heads, cylinders and tracks it has, if you please".
I totally forget about that! Thanks for the flashbacks 😂
And all these years later, we still love ya!
Ghey
@@KeksimusMaximus your mom gay
@@reanimationxp nah
@@reanimationxp no u
I *did* get the original "fastest booting PC" video in my recommendations recently, but I figured it was just because I've been subscribed to you for a few months now and the algorithm was just pulling random videos from your catalog and recommending them to me. Happens all the time with other RUclipsrs I watch frequently. But as for why non-subscribers are getting it in their recommendations... like you said, the algorithm works in mysterious ways.
Same
same
I haven’t been subscribed, I got it in home recommendations. I watched a lot of M1 Pro and M1 Max speed comparisons, and those are recommended to me all the time. I think the algorithm thinks it’s the same topic.
BUT!
Good catchy title, not long, dragged out length and the x years ago made me watch it. I was curious what the hell will that be.
Now i watched this one as it’s always fascinating to watch the reaction and explaining these channels do after one of their very old video skyrocketed. 😀
I got this in my home recommendations and my recent history is all about piano reviews and comparisons so yeah... The youtube algorithm works in mysterious ways..
Perhaps the uptick has to do with Apple’s recent keynote and release of the new M1 Macs? I imagine it led to a number of searches from those wanting to see benchmarks comparing the M1 Macs to PCs. The “fastest” and “PC” in your title may have got mixed up in that. Then again, that seems like a bit of a stretch, but it’s the only thing I can think of that coincident.
Believe me it is quite feasible. Almost no one uses inverted commas when searching, leading to the search algorithm responding with all results containing those searched words.
@@tarstarkusz > Retro-computing is gaining in popularity
Greeeaaat, so prices will skyrocket. ¬_¬👍
But low, hype, sell high. Standard pump and dump of old coins, art, and now video games.
@@juanignacioaschura9437 why didn’t you say quotation marks
@@Number1FanProductions Because I speak British English, NOT American English.
Evening thunder, rain and old computers... Heck, that's cozy!
I kinda digged the thunderstorm in the end! Retro computers and rain go together well just make sure to have surge protection so you don't zap invaluable historical pieces!
When I did tech support for a national internet company, you could almost predict the calls for the day by looking at the 24 hour radar map. You can bet that you will tell 3-5 people that their modem is - in fact - dead. They ALWAYS unplugged the power connection in a storm, but NEVER the phone line. It always bit them.
@@TechGorilla1987 We have learned to unplug phone line before thunderstorm in the hard way... Years before when modem was fired. Even tv decoder had lan port fired once
@@TechGorilla1987 yep, I had a modem that died that way. The thing had protection so I thought it would be fine, didn't took the phone line into account tho.
Neo...wake up
I love how this clearly demonstrates a tiny microcosm of the larger trend that boot time (almost) always increases as PCs increase their capabilities.
Hardware doesn't improve so you can run better software. It improves so that engineers can get away making worse software.
@@Stierguy1 one of my longtime aggrevations for sure.
I solved lagging boot time by installing an NVME card in my PC.
Meanwhile, my UEFI just sits 30 seconds initializing hardware before even trying to boot from SSD.
I found that I had a USB hub that was causing unnecessary USB initialization times. Didn't click until I put it away because I didn't need it anymore. Weird Amazon basics crap I guess.
@@TheNiteNinja19 USB things like flash drives and stuff tend to slow down boot process. My laptop can boot in roughly 5-10 seconds, but it slows down when a flash drive is connected.
Any additional HDDs you have installed will also slow down boot times.
Do you have fast boot turned off?
Anyone got the name of the song in the slo-mo section? 6:25 Didn't see anyone asking about it so I thought I would. :)
Paul Hardcastle - Don't Let It Get You Down [Jazzmasters III]
The algorithm works in mysteriously magical ways!
I literally watched this video today and just got recommended this,the algorithm *K N O W S*
That it does, and I knew I had watched the OG video when it originally released.
Yep I got recommended the original video just yesterday. Both were fun and educational!
I actually got this in my recommended
I think youtube moderators watch random video then if they like it they send it to us recommendation
Respect for keeping the channel alive and running for that long.
Also, the form factor of those machines is beautiful when paired with a appropriate monitor.
The strangest thing about the annoying high pitch CRT whine, is that I never noticed it when I was a kid and I grew up around CRTs, but now I do notice it.
That's really weird, usually it's the other way around
Anyone else find the *bzt* *eeeeee* sound of a CRT monitor nostalgic? I actually like the high pitch noise. Both because of nostalgia and because it confirms my hearing is still very good lol.
I love-hate it. :) It evokes nostalgia, but also memories of how much it could get to me on a bad day. ;)
I can't hear it and i'm wearing headphones.
@@ajapanexplorer7417 It'll depend on your headphones and your ears. I'm thankful I actually can't hear it in the video. I just remember it. I'm using semi-cheap headphones with a warm tone; not too much treble. I used to have Sennheiser 590D 'phones; I could hear *everything* in those.
The high-pitched noise almost sounds like if your peripheral vision was turned into a noise. It almost sounds like tinnitus.
Awesome work, AS ALWAYS! I remember (like it was yesterday!) how EXCITING it was to take my PC into the PC shop around the corner and have it upgraded from a 286 to a 386! Watching this vid brought back sooooo many memories! Thk u! Those were the EXCITING, 'good ol' days' of computing, lemme tell you! Holy cow ... HOW THE HECK to you KNOW SO MUCH about the specs, etc. of these PCs?! I've thought for years and YEARS that Windows SHOULD be booted from a ROM so that it boots up almost instantaneously, like this Tandy. Of course, the computer 'industry' never did that, for WHATEVER reason.
There's one simple reason - it would be hard to both update and upgrade Windows if it's installed to ROM. If anything, it's better to have tiny Linux installed to ROM instead of Windows. I believe ASUS did something similar to Tandy's DeskMate with some of their older Eee PC Netbooks (forgot what was it called though).
I'm 45 and the sounds and verbose boot just bring me back to the day! It's like seeing a mint '94 Pontiac Grand Prix rolling down the street. Love it!
I miss that high pitched whine from the crt
Tinnitus also helps.
@@woldemunster9244 nah, I'm just old school
I am too old how to hear something of that high frequency.
@@CTSFanSam I'm young, and I still hear it.
When life sends you lemons make lemonade, when life sends you a cash cow, milk it, lol.
Some C64 fast load cartridges or ROM replacements skip the (invisible) RAM test so it does boot in under half a second. But maybe that's cheating :)
hey, it's robin! from 8-bit show and tell!
@@estebanvillalobos2303 I read the first sentence in his voice.
C64 isn't even a PC (let alone IBM PC-compatible), it's a "home computer" :)
@@GeckonCZ The C64 certainly isn't IBM PC-compatible, but it says "Personal Computer" right on it! Look at 1:10 in this video.
@@8_Bit Yeah I'm aware... that's marketing for ya. Hardware and software-wise it fits into the "home computer" category rather than the "personal computer" one.
The thunder storm outside is incredibly well timed, the final crash of thunder that you kept in before fading out! love it. It's like the PC is saying "yes, I'm still a God of speed."
the champ just keeps vanquishing upstart challengers - oh, and glad to see the Commodore 64 and its fanboys handed a plate of humble pie
Plus I don't think you can consider the commodore a "PC" since it isn't running an x86 cpu or some sort of DOS
Tyler Nah, nah - perfectly fair competition - both were personal computers aimed primarily at home users first and foremost, and both were just booting the software they had in ROM and then landing at an interactive prompt. And then that Tandy could go and run Lotus 123 to really rub some salt on the wound - a home computer that could run legit biz software and not just toy imitations. Yeah, humble pie is even less appetizing when its served cold, hee, hee, hee. :-)
@@TheSulross or you use a fastboot rom on the c64 and it boots in a half second
My favorite type of video on this site has always been those in this style - watching a vwestlife or a druaga1 video has a different feeling than an 8 bit guy or LGR video. Just want to personally thank you for staying true to this DIY, classic style that I've grown to love.
that c64 boot argument had me choking on my nuggies
Commodore fan boys 🤦
Testing from a monitor that was off and, well... That tends to make things go slower
The sound of thunder adds a nice touch, imo.
Its probably because everyone is searching for how fast Windows 11 boots compared to windows 10 and and older operating systems.
You are onto something
@@tarstarkusz probably best to avoid it for a year or two until its tested by everyone.
That's the good thing about retro computer videos. They never go out of date and only become better!
Hahah, interesting results. A while back, I was trying to recreate the Tandy 1000SX setup I had as a kid, did some research and realized the RL was the last true iteration of the 1000 series but in the form factor of a medium size pizza box. No brainer for me, I tracked down an RL and got it pretty cheap. But shortly after, the PSU died on it. Anyone know someone who can fix the PSU?
Check the caps, it's easy to fix yourself.
@@maidpretty I have sort of a 50/50 success rate when trying to fix stuff myself, but at this point I'm about to try it.
@@Jose_Pointero i mean it's broken already.
@@Nuclearnadalah there's broken and there's *broken*...
I design power supplies. I can fix them as well ofc. :D
Though I am in Croatia, so I 'm not sure if shipping back and forth would make sense.
Banger video. I got unreasonably hype waiting for the race to start. Great explanations too. I think the Tandy's title will be secure for a long time to come. Even booting from a Gen 4 SSD with a top of the line modern CPU and fast boot enabled isn't anywhere close to 2.2 seconds. I have seen some systems wake from sleep almost instantly, but that's obviously not as impressive.
Every system should have a minimal booting system in ROM.
@John, "dere" wilkinson UEFI sucks also it takes significantly longer to initiate
@John, "dere" wilkinson Can UEFI be used to look into a connected drive's contents like DOS can do?
@@CnCDune Yes, it can.
@@thagomizer9514 Odd; it's not possible on my end.
@@CnCDune
That's how UEFI booting works in the first place to my knowledge - any correct UEFI implementation supports FAT32 at least, and needs to do so to look into the EFI partition to get to the BOOT.EFI file, which is the bootloader, to run it and get to your OS of choice
Your UEFI BIOS should have a EFI shell you can get to, or at least a "boot from file" button in the "change boot device" setting.
For people complaining about the CRT whine, although I can hear certain high pitched whines that most can't anymore, I can't hear the CRT whine, even in real life, standing right next to the set itself. And I'm currently (10/2021) 25.
The noise is there, and it provokes tinnitus for me long after I stopped watching the video. I'm 27, and can hear mosquito devices as well.
@@fanciestbanana4653 I wouldn't doubt that the whine is there, but, I just can't hear it over the video.
After 10 years, do you still have your small FM radio broadcast going?
Yes.
The realization that 1990 was over 30 years ago. Thats where my youth went! I can't the whine from the CRTs these days, but they say high pitched hearing goes first. That was the background noise of my high school days.
That video also got recommended to me the other day too despite being subbed to you for years!
Same!
Now I'm sitting here wondering how fast those _really_ old Toshiba "portables" with DOS in ROM were in comparison to these
Love these videos makes me want to hug a old pc. I always love the older computers and CRTS
I noticed a bunch of 8+ year videos being recommended to me by RUclips the past few days, from both channels I subscribe to and ones that I do not. And it's across the spectrum of my interests, from cat videos to subatomic physics.
Man, I just saw that older video of yours, I even saved to watch it later, and now you upload this one, as great as the previous one from 10 years ago. You're always surprising me, and yes, I do watch A LOT your older videos, they're so great that I must watch them again ^^ ❤❤❤
I watched the older video too. Then went to the channel, sorted by Oldest, and started binging older videos.
@@hrayz It is always fun to do this, since you may be surprised by some video you've never heard about and have a lot of fun and knowledge at the same time 😁
Same here! I need to binge this channel again soon!
guys like that who make sucess after 10 years are true legends
Yes i saw it yesterday too, it was on my recommendation list!
Ditto
This is like "walking with dinosaurs" with computers. Good memories tough.
Hey vwestlife, tried looking up the first song in the video with no luck. Could you share where to find it? Sounds interesting. Thanks.
If you are talking about the one he recorded onto the Tandy, then it's
Slugbug - Computers Again
ruclips.net/video/wYwSu4drOn0/видео.html
It's one of his favorite artist to use on the channel because they don't DMCA match, or do baseless copyright claims over fair use.
Any PC with an SSD: Piece of cake! Nobody's as fast as me, and that old thing's likely gonna take forever to boot up!
Tandy 1000RL: Hold my floppy disks, kid.
Your previous video on the RL did appear in my recommendations (and I did watch it) but since I'm already a subscriber I didn't give any thought to how. The algorithm is a fickle beast, it gives and it takes.
I hate that so few people who came to the previous video failed to click the link and watch this newer, even more educational video.
Saw the original one after being recommended it the other day just as you mentioned. Now I saw this video linked in the description of the old one and watched this one. Kind of funny that the worlds fastest computer is AMD powered :P
RUclips is recommending me a Linus Tech Tips video titled, "The fastest gaming PC is now AMD!" XD
I’ll see you all in about 10 years when this video gets recommended to everyone
Nice a new "night" video surprise from the best RUclipsr!
So much beauty in just 10 minutes video. Thank you for sharing it with us!
Yes I do remember that PC very well back in the days however had one in my house . However a friend of mine had one back in those days and I used to also mess around with them at my local radio shack store. Yes that was definitely fast booting. I can honestly say most older interfaces like Desk. Mate we're actual user interfaces that I liked compared to today's fancy Windows fancy macos those low on graphics didn't really bother me put it to you this way if they're not operating system with those graphics today but yet with the speed of today's CPUs I would probably choose that computer over any fancy Windows PC that they make today.
While I am a fan of the UI designs they had in 2009/2010 (with Windows 7's beautiful glossy design), I completely agree that a computer with the speed we have today that gets up and going like these old titans would be insane.
@@VideoGameSmash12 Has anyone tried loading old versions of DOS on a modern PC?
@@dougbrowning82 LGR did that - ruclips.net/video/bS9hiSwL1KY/видео.html
I saw both videos for the first time today. Thank you.
I woke up at 5:30am to eat some cheese and I am happy to see an upload from vwestlife
This guy makes me feel in 2011 RUclips. So nostalgic!!
I was not expecting the motherboard to be that small.
For what it’s worth, I found your channel many years ago via your old Dead Shopping Center video, so it wouldn’t have been my first rodeo with recommendations
nice, love those boot times. It goes "pop" "pop" and done. If we only got the same boot on out modern computers.. Our modern computers feels alot like slow wagons compared to the snappy boot these computers have.
it got worse in the middle. win95 on a pentium 60 was terrible. since ssd and parallel boot sequences we have gotten faster again
@@GigsVT yhe major issue with the boot speed was the cost, it was when you used a rom chip but a upgrade would be expensive. Imagine send out a couple of 100k chips to customers.. Im not roasting the new systems (unless we talk about the later windows versions) but there is parts that was great with the older systems.
I have games that look and feel faster than the new and fancy need for speed for example.
@@lokelaufeyson9931 the code is way inefficient now. 60GB for a game. I know it's mostly assets but the code gets bloated too.
@@GigsVT fact.
@@GigsVT It makes developer time quicker. You can make smaller executables, but halving the executable time and doubling the work involved is a bad tradeoff. Programmers are expensive, storage & network is cheap. 100MB+ executables are almost certainly due to c++ templates (or embedded resources), but that feature simplifies code, which results in less bugs and faster work. AAA games are also MUCH more complicated (in technology, not mechanics) than those of a decade or two ago, which also adds to the code size.
"yes that's thunder outside"
The computer pops up with a date
Me: *doom music*
It makes me mad that for all the crazy tech we've developed since, there is no way a PC today can ever boot that fast. Not even close. Not even with the most expensive PCIe 4.0 SSD money can buy. No matter the OS.
We really disappointed our elders on that front. As on so many others.
With some really good tweaking you can get the OS to boot faster than this, most of the slowness comes from badly written firmware that has to deal with decades of legacy support. With IBM PC incompatible systems there's less legacy to worry about and you can get boot times under a second on some modern systems
thank you for keeping the high pitched whine throughout the whole video, really adds to the mood...
I wonder why todays computer still have to load the basic system (Kernel, drivers, ...) from a slow SSD. Flash memory is compared to ROM still extremly slow. But Operatingsystems are these days only big bloatware with packed functions and features nobody uses.
are you trolling. the amount of things your current computer is doing before boot up put this old tech machines to shame.
The fact that this computer, which was released in 1990, still boots up faster than most computers today.
The RUclips algorithm is weird on purpose. RUclips doesn't want people to know how it works so that it can't be exploited. That's why it's randomized to some degree.
But they could tune it to spread the love more. Why are videos either nothing or superviral? There's probably plenty of channels I don't know about but would like.
I really like the way you talk and how you explain the background behind these PCs. Also thumbs up for subtitles.
My HP 100LX boots pretty fast but not as quickly. With a doublespeed upgrade it might be pretty close, but there's more. A good portion of its boot time is waiting to see if the user wishes to use the boot menu. With that delay patched out and the doublespeed crystal installed I'm pretty sure it will beat the Tandy.
Interesting. If only VWest or somebody else experimented with that.
I’ll be back in 10 years when the video gets recommended again…
1:50 With all due respect, it takes that commodore 64 3.3 seconds only because it takes the screen itself 3.3 seconds to turn on. If they had the screen already turned on like you did, how long it would actually take commodore to boot up?
My thought exactly.
love the old keyboards. a thing of beauty.
I wish I had bought it on eBay before it was the fastest booter. :)
I had a Tandy 1000HX and then upgraded to a Tandy 1000 TL2.. Loved my systems..
The RLX has features that take up more space in ROM and as such require more time to load compared to the RL that is just the laws of physics at work.
Meet you guys at 10 year later when this was recommend to everyone
Interesting video! Having the (or an) operating system in ROM was pretty common for CP/M maskines, but haven't really seen it on pc's 😃
The Toshiba T1000 (1987 laptop, with MS-DOS 2.1) and some IBM EduQuest 'Thirty' and 'Forty' models have a ROM module with MS-DOS 5.0
I think there are some modern motherboards with a minimal operating system as part of the UEFI BIOS thing... those are LIKELY very fast to "boot up". Its been a while since I read about them and I currently cant seem to find any info on them.
The original PC XT (IBM ) had sockets to add a ROM OS, usually DOS.
how about the option network cards with with the disk-less ROM, chip's installed, I think they would get you to a command prompt, with some error if network - cable was unplugged, can't comment to much never as much, seen on, so no idea of how much of a OS was in the ROM boot chips?
@@tj71520 Modern OSs, like Windows 10 don't fully power down when shut down. They have Quick Start enabled by default. On power up, it doesn't really have to boot up, it just wakes up from a sort of sleep mode. So I don't see boot time being as much of an issue anymore.
im glad i was suggested the original video, because then i found your channel. great content!!!!!!!!!!!!
Commodore VIC-20 boots in about 0.75 seconds because it has so little RAM to test :) Maybe you'll need to clarify that the Tandy is the world's fastest booting MS-DOS PC?
VIC-20 doesn’t run MS-DOS. 😂
@@TheMrMarkW That's my point.
I never search anything about old PC or computer in general but I still got recommended. RUclips is literally give us random video at this point.
You went global. Your video is in my recommendations here in Ukraine. To all the geeks reading this: have a good one!
Waiting for this to go into someones recommended a decade later.
If we're talking about The Algorithm then: "The Shortest Boot In Human History (2.2 S.E.C.)"
Also the people talking about the C64 were missing the spirit of this. Of course I can boot a Timex 1000 and it's ready to go immediately, but where's the fun in showing that off over a bunch of old slow IBM PC compatibles with variable boot times? =P Now we just need to find the fastest booting pre-Intel Mac...
I have a hunch the fastest booting pre-Intel Mac is going to be the Macintosh Classic into System on ROM. Earlier models with simple versions of System on a single floppy disk might be quick, but the floppy access times likely won't hold a match to loading it from ROM.
4:17 I can't stop seeing the red and green dance on the motherboard
The whine of the people whining is worse than the CRT whine.
Still surprised people pursue such a interest in old pcs, and are still going strong, mad respect 😔✌️
One small point: As difficult as it might be to believe, even Intel's latest x64 CPUs still start up in real mode. The BIOS (UEFI or not) needs to switch into protected mode (and, on 64-bit machines, then into long mode) to be able to access the entire address space to count up available RAM, and, in the non-UEFI case, back to real mode to load and execute the boot loader. This kind of craziness is what you get when you keep tacking new features onto a design for over 40 years... 😹
I have stored away a Tandy 1000 SL with monitor, keyboard, joy stick and printer with ink color ribbons. When I got a newer computer my first thought was there must be something wrong with the new computer as it was loading so slow.
I just watched the original video yesterday because it was in my recommended & I didn't bother to look at the upload date until after the fact. I've noticed that YT seems to be recommending videos I've already watched previously. They've changed something in their algorithm that's made this an annoying & repetitive phenomenon. It may help channels get more views, I don't however want to see anything in my recommended that I've already seen, it's never ending in my YT feed now, almost as if they're demoting newer uploads in favor of older ones. I'm sure this wouldn't have anything to do with the moronic political climate we find ourselves in that's spilling over into non political content... Keep uploading & I'll keep watching!
Good idea putting a link to this in the last one lol, that’s why I’m here
Isn’t the C64 almost instant and those 3 seconds is just the CRT catching up?
If not, the C128 is definitely faster.
I barely today got the old video recommended to me, and now just noticed your new video.
I wonder if my 1000 RSX still has DOS in ROM. I don't think that it does, the RSX was the last of the 1000 line, but was a "Tandy 1000" only in the 3-voice sound chip and the Shugart floppy standard. By that I mean that the original 1000 was based on the IBM PC-Jr, and most of the 1000 line retained vestiges of that heritage. Everything else about the RSX was a full fledged PC-compatible 386.
The 1000RSX was actually a 2500RSX stuck into the RL/RLX case. So I don't think it has DOS and DeskMate in ROM.
@@vwestlife I've also head that it's the other way around. Either way, I wouldn't mind getting a hold of one. Currently, my 1000 RSX has an external SCSI CD-ROM, and an internal one would be more practical, just to free up the card slot and base-memory the SCSI controller takes up. Maybe stick a network card in it's place, and use the ROM socket to install XT-IDE BIOS, so I can install a larger hard drive.
I was suggested the world's fastest booting PC today, and I thought I had stumbled over a cool new retro tech youtuber I haven't watched before. But then I realized, I have indeed watched your videos before! I found you through your "The Claw" video which was very entertaining. Here's to many more in the future!
It’s crazy how much PC have improved in the last decade
My first desktop PC was a Tandy 1000 RLX received it for my 15th birthday. 40MB HDD, 1MB RAM, thought it was 16Mhz CPU. I have a video me receiving it and telling my family that I don't think I will be able to ever fill up the HDD, and my sister in law reading the manual asking what "America Online" was. This would have been spring 1991. Later I added a SoundBlaster.