monstertech - RAIL MOUNT Review
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Just a small criticism to an otherwise quality video. I think it would've been better to show the product in action in the beginning of the video. I only knew what you were talking about by putting together your description and the image of the rail. But I think "show, don't tell". Also the clip you showed from Dawn of Justice lead me to believe the rail system was meant to slide underneath and away from the front rather than from side to side. Regardless another good video. Keep them coming.
It’s true, I am happy you watched till the end, and thanks for the feedback.
Same and I got quite excited seeing that. Is there a similar solution on the market? Being able to slide under and to the back of a desk while working would be ideal, and look less cluttered most the time imo
@@leovos5307 the Batman thing is just impractical. It would hit your leg all the time.
Same, I didn't understand what the video was about until the end. And I still don't understand if drilling is 100% a requirement, as that would be an no go for many of us. Other than that, love your content.
@@leovos5307 did you find it?
Now they just need to modify the mounts so they can be unlocked and fold down, so you can attach the rail at a 90 degree angle and just slide the stick and throttle underneath the desk when not in use.
The side to side rail is neat, but it's going to be useful in far fewer scenarios. My L shaped desk for example doesn't really have any extra side space to slide them out farther. And there's a round metal beam under it where the rail would go anyway.
Just what I needed to be introduced to get my brain going. I appreciate how you made this so stable on the install and limited space. I have a larger bamboo, composite frame uplift standing desk but I have a desk mount mic,and the up down controls for the desk, and the desk has large horizontal frame/supports in the deep middle of the desk. In this video I wanted to see more moving of the control different types with panels and throttle but I really appreciate this is your actual setup not a full dem rig. Great work as always. I’m intimidated by doing sup a big mounting install as I’m very new full desk hardware to modifying; However, I work and play at same place so it is perfect.
Have my rails and stick mounts on order. Looking forward to getting the keyboard mount when it’s available.
Ive been using dual-lock strips and mounting the JS right onto the desk so they are aligned with the keyboard that way
was SUPER excited when I saw the thrustmaster slide out from under the desk, less so about a side to side rail system. I've got two virpil desk clip mounts on the way, and know I'll be trying to figure some way to get them out of the way when I switch to FPS mode.
I've got monster tech clamp mounts that I've been using for a couple years. I finally ordered a third one for the keyboard recently so I can just put a razer tartarus and my mouse in between my throttle and stick
I like this mounting rail, and would definitely suit my desk well.
Thank you Noob, I love the tech /hardware set up videos. I appreciate how much time and effort you put into your gear and your careful explanations of the positives and negatives or your experiences. The thoroughness and depth of your reviews are definitely a guide I use for my own set up. And thanks for going bilingual on the measurements for us Americans. Cheers
My pleasure! Thanks for the support
I need the storable system from that movie, 100%
Think my previous comment disappeared? Anyway, great vid and cool product, always preferred rail mounts compared to clamps or chair mounts. Done something similar DIY with the same slider t-profile modules.
I got a bit of an antique desk with sloped edges so I'm looking for a clamping mechanism with a very large top plate onto which I would put my M+K as well.
Standard MT desk mounts can do this
1:08 I think this is the endgame really. To have your simgear stored under your desk and can be just pulled and ready to go.
great idea with the screws, i recentl;y gfot the rail and iv been sitting here trying to think of the best way to ensure a wobble free mount. time to ave a check down the hardware store lol
Hey man, do you have that bridge keyboard table from MTS? Or is that an unreleased specific rail mounted keyboard table? I just want to know if I can mount my keyboard between my sticks on the rails
These are really cool. It would be even cooler if one day foldable mounts become available like you showed in the beginning.
Yes, it would be great as the foldable option does fit my setup right now. I am into DCS flight sim. I came across this video while searching for ideas on how to mount my HOTAS to my desk with the option to move it out of the way when I am not gaming. At the moment, I have ordered some Guide Rail slides with locks that I want to attach to the side of the legs of the desk. The concept is to find a platform to attach the hotas to the rail and be able to slide the Hotas in and lock it in place when working and in reverse when I want to play, slide it out and lock it. All this is just still in my head. The plan is to get to work once I get the guide rail system.
while im already setup for chair, i might actually do this for my keyboard. i bought something detachable to move my keyboard closer, but this new system is way more convenient, and i could also put my mouse next to my keyboard instead of off to the right side of my right flightstick on my chair. this would mean the chair setup would be lighter and more compact when i rotate them out of the way since the right one sticks out more because of the giant mousepad.
Man I need this keyboard mount to come out PRONTO... one question regarding the rail system for the mouse / kb... are you able to get them to behave somewhat like a traditional keyboard drawer? ie - slide your kb/mouse back under the desk and pull them out to use?
Nope, it can not slide back at all
I have been waiting to see this in action so thanks for this! I was hoping I could keep my mouse and keyboard on the desk, and slide in the joysticks when entering a ship. When I exit the ship, slide them to the side. By looking at this video, that is not intended, and I am honestly a bit disappointed. That would require sliding the joysticks in and out would take a second max (or the time it takes to enter the seat in SC).
Thats what i was interested in too. I’m currently using 2 VIVO mouse mounts to sort of move things out of the way.
Great to see a review of this piece. It would have been nice to give some extra attention to the main use case this piece has compared to the other desk mounts: moving sticks to one side so the desk can be used for office work or gaming quite seamlessly.
I've ordered the rail about 3-4 months ago and while it is quite good, the design of the sliders is not ideal. They are too wide and waste space in the rail, making even two sticks too much to slide away with a 1400mm rail, while keeping comfortable space for office use.
It is overall a good product, but I would only recommend if your desk can fit a rail that is at least 1500mm, if you plan to hotswap between office and sim pit.
That’s interesting because mine moves more than far enough to let me fully displace the controls to be used as a normal desk.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 you can probably access your desk from the back. In my office the desk is accessed through the side, since the other side is flush against the wall. Because of that, I need to push both mounts to the same side, which doubles the wasted space by the mount sliders. With a design that used both rails in a square design, instead of a single long line, it would make possible to flush both joysticks against each other with no waste.
I sent pictures and explanation to Monstertech a few months ago, so hopefully they can make a different slider in the future.
@@spacexy0 they could also just machine a gap in the rail so the item could drop off.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 agreed. My desk doesn't block the rails side entrance because I kind of deliberately built it like that, but most desks would have issues with the legs, like you mentioned in the video.
Overall, the rail is a great addition to the product line and it just needs a few improvements to be phenomenal.
For the sliding mechanism, do you need to tighten anything after sliding it in place ? Is there a like stop insert so I can slide from the edge of my desk to about 15cm in. I’m looking for something I can move joysticks out of the way to use mouse and keyboard quickly, without having to spend a couple of seconds clamping and unclamping.
I suppose you could use it loose allowing it to move
This looks interesting, any chance you could fit a G29 wheel in the middle if the rail is still there under the desk?
I don’t see how, it would be below and basically unusable
Really cool, the Predator system has this and tablet mounts as well, so I went that route. Its also vet owned and operated. Thanks again Noob.
The predator mounts do not though have a rail mounted system. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 they do just not on the website yet, the are updating it on the 4th I was told. Thanks again for this.
I was thinking about finally pulling the trigger on a desk mount but that shipping is crazy.
They will be opening up a USA based store as far as I heard on Reddit. I can not confirm but if that were true, it might help with the shipping costs in the future.
The desk mounts are made from standard 80x40mm aluminium profiles, you can order them cut to size and pre-drilled, same goes for the clamp. Search for 'DIY joystick mount' on YT to see how easy (and cost-effective compared to Monstertech's products, which are great) it is, if you are inclined to try.
same here, shipping is insane.
cool. i also made a rail dual stick set up with mouse throttle and stream-deck... i guess i have to post it on some forum or so... it's already two years in use and didnt made any pictures... well, no i have to clean my desk....
At 5:12, what planet is that? I don’t think I’ve seen that in star citizen
Man I wish they made mounts compatible with Herman Miller chairs.
Thanks Noobifier! Looks like MT hit it out of the park with this thing. For those of us who like to sim but have to work at the same desk this is massive.
Yep, I was really exploring the idea of having a sim pit off on the side of my desk but I think it will work much better for me to have this solution on one side of my L-Desk with my widescreen and other desktop/mounted attachments and the other side of my L-Desk for traditional gaming and work
Really like the look of this as I have a keyboard draw in the middle of my desk and I made a mouse pad draw the right . this makes it a pain when using duel stick for SC .
Now to be able to remove both and just have one set up would be great .
thanks for showing the world :) also would need the keyboard mount too :)
I see the length of the rail but not the width ? it looks about 5cm / 50mm or in the USA 2inch LOL
the specs are in the manual
I really wish i had a place nearby where i could go and see this in person to be able to figure out what config I need. So hard to tell on video.
Is Monstertech going to offer the the slider piece as a stand alone item for those of us that would like to convert from the stander desk mounts?
I imagine that would be possible. Contact them and please let us know.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 I contacted them about this about a week ago, they do offer a conversion kit. It includes the slider section, additional screws and a longer profile for mounting plates. It costs 60€ + VAT.
@@mofous Ty for the info! I made a comment about this before seeing yours, so I'm glad to see it's an available option. I'll reach out to them about it, since that's what I was looking to do as well.
Thanks Noob, I think this might be the final nail... Working from home as many of us are, the option to keep my desk as a productivity area as well as use it for gaming seems to constantly be in conflict. This seems like a viable option to finally upgrade my sticks and have a great mounting system for them. Question about the rail system, I suppose that it will be OK if I wanted to slide both sticks to the right? I have room for the full rail but have drawers off to the left side and it's a bit cramped. Really cool product and analysis/review!
what I'm hoping Monstertech come up with is a heli collective stand that attaches to the desk either via rail or clamp to keep it in position & is supported by the floor for stability. I can't mount to my chair sadly (Herman Miller Embody). Any ideas?
You might as well put that on a chair mount Richard. Get creative. I can help. Contact me in discord
Where can we buy this
I cant find the keyboard mount anywhere on their site.
Not released yet. Please contact them
Awesome! Thanks for this one, Noobifier!!
My pleasure!
OK but is anybody making the actual tuck under and slide system like @1:07?
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how many inched is it in width ( form the side, smaller dimension) no the longer length?
You may specify the exact distance if you contact them
Noticed the keyboard slide mount isnt in the store. Is that being released at a later date?
Also, are there adapter plates for vkb gladiator nxt joysticks?
He mentioned that he thinks it's not available yet but should be soon.
Correct. Quite soon.
Is the keyboard holder for the slide rail available yet?
@@MrDC514 I was told, yes, you might need to contact them be email
Now THIS is pod- I mean, perfect!
I thought you was going to show the one in the video that pull out design is sick.
No, that thing is just a prop in a movie.
Is there an option for front to back sliding?
Not really
Any idea for how to move the MFD mount to the new rail system?
You can mount it as if it were a desk mount
@@NOOBIFIER1337 thanks, but how? From what I can see the vertical aluminium extrusion is below/flushed with the table. This would mean that the MFD mount (small 'angled' thingy) would not stick out enough to allow the MFD to be there... what am I missing?
@@nexus888 there is an MFD mount for the keyboard tray.
I love monster tech I started with a chair Mount and I just got the realm out craftsmanship is amazing wish their shipping prices were a little cheaper though. But can't complain about customer support I had to buy a couple parts over again because I misjudged it and I had one part that broke that they replaced for free.
Shipping is expensive. They are AFAIK planning to offer drop shipping soon.
HOW DID I MISS THIS VIDEO..... It would of solved my issues for my current layout. Thank you NOOB. Always there when we need you.
Is it "safe" to cut the rail? With the 150cm version, i'd only have 18cm left to unmount the rail which wouldn't work as they're 25cm & with 117cm i wouldn't be able to get the sticks out of the way when i need them to. could i buy the 150cm and cut it down to 140cm without it breaking any functionallity? o7
Sure, us a really new circular table, radial arm, band saw. Push super slowly and let the saw work. OR, you can contact them, they will cut to measure.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 that's awesome, i'll get directly in contact with them and get it done. thanks alot! o7
I am consistently impressed with both Monstertechs products but also your reviews.
I actually learned a bit about woodworking on a sim put video lol.
One note,
whilst screws and inserts still hold find in wood, because of the flexibility and lower compressive strength at surface levels prone to loosening over a (very long) period of time.
It may not fall out but personally I'd be worried about wobble because of the weight and lever arm of sim gear hanging off it.
I don't know that epoxy is really necessary but I'm not 100% sure what is a good alternative .
So, I have tested by putting “Too Much Force” on the sticks and tray. It has not yet backed off, now with over a week of use. I am confident this is a long term solution
@@NOOBIFIER1337 As long as you're happy with it. :)
I think it's a thing that happens with lots of small repeated movements over a very long time period anyway
so would you recommend this over chairmounts?
That is highly personal. I feel uncomfortable offering that opinion because “ I personally prefer desk or simpit mounted parts “ but many don’t. Many prefer chair.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 thanks for taking a time to answer
Yes!
+BrianMP5T *I've already shortlisted a MONSTERTECH® MTS™ Base Frame, would **_rather_** use aluminum honeycomb for the instrument panels mounted thereto.* The Rail Mount is a convenient means of attaching the instrument panels to the Base Frame.
If the tabletop needs a T-nut installed from the top - I don't trust those anchors, as they have the threat o' pull-out - ye need a harder tabletop.
Still waiting for my chair. It's going to be a while longer.
Good video ty
for those who aren't willing to wait for the keyboard you could buy a table mount keyboard and then the rail conversion kit for $50
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Very cool
This is a good idea, However, I already have Monstertech hotas and joystick desk mounts. There are NO options on their website to purchase just the rail slide adapters which attach to the top of the mounts to allow you to use on the rails. Instead I would have to buy complete HOTAS and Joystick rail mounts, which would be wasting my already existing mounts, Not good for existing customers. I would rather have the money to buy a keyboard mount to attach to a slide rail.
Contact them, they will help make a custom order
@@NOOBIFIER1337 I have sent them a message. Hopefully they will so. I would use the money saved to get a keyboard rail mount.
Have you tried predator mounts?
They are similar, but thinner?
@@NOOBIFIER1337 I'm looking at doing a sim rig and have been looking at both monstertrch, predator mounts and also diy. Still trying to decide which one to go with
@@limitedrespawns If you plan to build a sim rig, then IMO you basically need to start first with choosing what it will look like. Join the discord if you would like to talk a bit i detail.
What the Noobifier can't tell you, because MTSIM sends stuff to him for review is that it can literally take months, literal months (2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 or more months) to fulfill an order. Predator is a better experience customer service wise and can ship within a reasonable time frame.
Rail mount isn’t 3 4 months.
Monster tech should just make a custom desk at this point
They did ruclips.net/video/EevA21Dp0Vk/видео.html
I have a question about the strength of the keyboard tray. You mentioned an MFD extender, would that be strong enough to mount a pair of Virpil button boxes to? At first glance it would seem that it wouldn't be.
It's great to see them make this, I always wondered if they would after Lord Skippy's video outlining his own home made rail system: ruclips.net/video/VWXf6EsfZ4c/видео.html
As it is close to the rail, I would say, Yes I believe they would be supported no issue. Consider angling them rearward a bit to offset the weight torque. Another idea would be to mount them on their own slider, bit the MFD mount is strong.
awesome!!! whats the size of the channel on the aluminium profile??
It’s EU profile
Im EXTREMELY interested in this system... but I'm afraid it wont support the weight of my supertaurus
The only consideration will be if the rail holds to the desk… you can always use some sort of Epoxy. The rail itself can likely hold 100kg.
Holy crap the slide rail is such a rip off. It is a simple 80x16 extruded aluminum profile. You can buy a 2 meter one for less then 30€ in silver (including 20%VAT) +shipping....
I guess, but some people couldn't be bothered and just want to have it shipped 100% ready to mount.
You can also buy it in black. In fact, you can buy the same exact slider assembly for 30€ (per mount). The only custom part seems to be the bar to which those sliders and the joystick mounts are connected / screwed in to, which is just a 5mm+ piece of metal (presumably aluminium, maybe Noob can confirm) with 8 holes in it. You can see all the components in the rail system manual pdf on Monstertech's website, if you feel like copying it for a fraction of the cost.
where you buy your 80x20 80x16 at?
Depends on where you are located I guess! If you live in Germany then of course, just can buy from Motedis. Here in Baltic states, that same rail is just a 15Eur difference than in Monstertech, because of Motedis high shipping.
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FACT
Instead of “The Americans” watching the video. You could say that’s converted to Freedom Fractions. If it’s good enough to get a man on the moon it should work for the rail system.
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Monstertech is soo overpriced, i laugh everytime. Dudes, just buy regular ITEM-Profiles. with those i built my own system within 25 work hrs and 1/5 of the price.
Great Video, esp missing IFCS from Pritchett