Cumbrian Silage 2022. At the pit with the Massey 390 buckraking in a very low shed.
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2022
- Third and final part of a Cumbrian livestock farms silage operation. Clamping with a Twose buckrake the farm MF 390 once a year has its Duncan cab removed and has been filling the farms main and very low undercover clamp (built in 1972) for almost 30 years. Due to the height restriction the cabless Massey is essential for access under the beams and will be doing so for a long time yet. Very skilled operator knows every inch of the building and it shows. At the end of the grass harvest it’s literally full to the rafters, job done! Filmed in Cumbria June 2022.
I don’t miss filling sheds, fair going, he has the right set up, keeping it low, wheels set out and ducking for the rsj, I bet he sleeps well !! Many operators didn’t have ROPs and FOPs back in the day yet drove those machines to the limit, my dad included
I bet he’s ready for his bed at night too Peter! Yes a tiring job but as you say the right set up. I well remember doing exactly the same 40 years ago, 2wd back then though so very light steering! Cheers, David.
Credit we're its due man's some operator
Totally agree! Man knows his machine and the environment he’s working in like the back of his hand!
Good going 390 good pilot
Hi Kevin. Yes good tractor with a very experienced operator who knows it well!
Brilliant video,very different and doing a great job most enjoyable.
Many thanks Colman. Yes nice to see clamp work still being done like this especially as nowadays machinery it seems is getting bigger every year! Very experienced operator that knows the 390 and the clamp inside out as it shows. Thanks for watching and your comment, much appreciated. Cheers, Dave.
Fantastic piece of buckraking. Great set up. A neighbour of mine has to do the same, that is he takes the cab of his 390T for access to one of his tight pits. Superb handling by the operator. He's not hanging about!
He certainly isn’t Kieran, getting on with the job really well. Always helps when you know your machine and surroundings well especially when you’re doing this job. It’s always handy having that option of removing the cab as unless you have an ultra modern farmyard there’s always one or two buildings with restricted access, certainly true of a few farms up here in Cumbria. Once again many thanks, always great to read your comments. Cheers, Dave.
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Excellent work there - the driver knows exactly when to duck his head!
Indeed Alan. He’s very aware of his surroundings.
I used to do that in early sixties with a Massey 35 two wheel drive
That would be classed as a decent sized outfit back then John. Was it a push off buckrake or something like a Mil trip-tip one?
Well done David, you have hit the jackpot with this one, very similar to the one i did a year ago, some speed and skill on the tractor and on the pit, Steve .😉👍👍
Many thanks once again Steve. Yes there’s some very popular about Massey 300 series tractors, I still regularly watch the MF 399 buckraking video that you posted last year (superb video). Yes he’s an excellent operator isn’t he, knows the machine and the pit like the back of his hand. Cheers my friend, regards David.
Some operator doing fine job
Man and machine working in perfect harmony!
Brilliant video David very interesting watch. A cabless 390, never mind one buckraking is something we'd never see over here in Northern Ireland.
Hi Jonny, many thanks for the encouragement on the video. There’s still quite a few 390s like this in Cumbria purchased years ago specifically to work in indoor clamps. The cab as with the others is bolted straight back on after a couple of days buckraking when it goes back to it’s everyday duties as you’ll see in my next post. Essential for working inside as it’s unfeasible to carry out the operation with a cab, rollbar or even an upright exhaust! You maybe won’t see one in Northern Ireland (think there were only 300 odd built and most are in Cumbria) but bet there’s some great tractors over there. Cheers, David.
I've seen quite a few 300 series in my native northern Ireland with Duncan lift off cabs on buckrakes
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I know of at least 5 Duncan cab 390s still working in Cumbria.
Fantastic guy on the rake,my back wouldn't poke up with that for too long 👍🏻
Hi Matt, yeh he’s great isn’t he! I know what you mean, no cab suspension on this Massey, well no cab basically!! Cheers, Dave
Brilliant video David, what an awesome little bit of kit to see, never seen a cab-less 390 before. Really nice to see it still hard at work.
MF sold 390s without cabs too. We bought one new just with a roll bar.
Id say that tractor came with a cab but it can be taken on and off easy enough
Many thanks once again Jacob. I’ve known this one and it’s owners for years, lots of photos but actually never got round to filming it. Again another farm your welcome to visit with me if you want to film and take as many photos as you want.
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Ah now that’s interesting. I know a few manufacturers do offer that option even now. Don’t suppose you still own it?
@@davidwinthrop7077 Thanks again David, Would be brilliant at some point, just finding the time is always the problem.
My uncle who used to farm near Kirkby Lonsdale, used to buckrake with a mf35, with twin rear wheels and push, just a bit short of power and front weight
Hi Roger. Ah, Kirkby Lonsdale, a lovely part of the world and that dual-wheeled Massey 35 would have been great to see. Back in the 1970s/80s this farm used an MF 148 on twin wheels, very similar outfit to your uncles and was again a bit short on power and light on the front end but did the job at the time. Thanks for watching and the bit of family history, always great to hear about the past. Much appreciated, cheers, Dave.
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great video
Many thanks Jack, pleased you enjoyed it. Cheers, Dave.
I think you've done that job before LOL you make it look easy but I'm sure it takes a lot of practice to get that good!! Enjoyed the video, greetings from Southwestern Ontario Canada! Now a subscriber,
Hi Ian. It does look easy and you’re certainly correct in saying it takes a lot of practice, at least 30 years in this case! A very skilled and very aware operator making a great job of filling the pit. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and subscribing, it’s really appreciated. Pleased you enjoyed the video thousands of miles away across the pond! Cheers, David.
used to do that with a cabless MF 265 many moons ago
That’s a coincidence John as this farm also did back in the 1980s. 2wd 265 then a 4wd 298, both with Duncan lift-offs before the 390 arrived mid-90s.
He’s a very good man on a buckrake but the person who designed and built that farm yard was a bright spark
Hi John. Yes a very good operator indeed. Regarding the farm yard it’s been more or less the same since the owners moved in over 60 years ago, of course there are much newer and modern buildings in the farm yard and although this section maybe appears dated it still works fine and is fit for purpose. Many thanks for watching and your comment, much appreciated. Cheers, David.
Lovely tractor tidy silo
It certainly is a lovely tractor. Been on the farm for nearly 30 years and has been really well looked after. Yes silage pit very neat, operator well on top of the job. Thanks for watching and your comment. Much appreciated. Cheers, Dave
That's a real open air tractor! Looks very rakish
It certainly does Andrei. No cab to spoil those sleek lines though it will be back on again in a future video where it looks very different. Great comment and thanks for watching. Cheers, David.
Proper silage buckraking old school style
Certainly is Owen and none the worse for it. 390 easily doing as good a job as the modern 200hp tractors you see now, possibly even better considering the confines of this silage shed!
@@davidwinthrop7077 the 390 Massey has a lot of torque for its size great tractor, have one myself at home
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Yes
It’s very torquey. Great tractor and a good investment these days.
That's a great pilot on the pit! I don't think theres a forward/reverse shuttle in those but he's changing gears so fluidly. That buckrake is also spreading the silage lovely and even! Just as well, it doesn't seem like he's getting much of a chance to roll!! 😁
He must have the exhaust piped differently? It's very quiet, not like he just took it off.
I'd love to get a walk around of that wee massey 😍
Hi Phillip. Yes very skilled operator that knows the machine and building like the back of his hand. Yeh great clutch control, knows exactly what gear to be in and where to spread the grass needs in the shed. It is surprisingly quiet especially as it’s clocked over 10,000 hours, very well serviced as it’s an essential tractor on the farm. Yeh a great machine to see up close. Thanks for watching, your comment and enjoying the video. Greatly appreciated. Cheers, Dave.
They are 12 x 12 shuttle gearbox, shuttle lever is on LHS of steering wheel. Under bonnet exhaust silencer as standard but straight pipe removed for height reasons and home made pipe made to keep smoke and heat away from the operator!
They have a shuttle on the left side of the steering wheel
@@zzirSnipzz1 Thanks, didn't know that. Still some great driving from that lad!!
@@philipoconnor2236 also quicker in reverse than forward tested by my old boy reversing up the land flat out
tremendous little tractor - the single range/gear lever and the shuttle was a game changer on those - some of those 390's came equipped with the duncan super q - i think this might be one of those
Correct on all counts Jim. The shuttle made a tremendous difference compared to the earlier 3-stick gearbox especially for loader work and buckraking duties. Yes it’s normally filtted with a Duncan Quick-detach cab that’s only removed for 2-3 days of the year so it can load the pit. Back on to operate the wrapper in my round baling video at the same farm. Thanks for the watch and comment Jim, much appreciated. Regards, David.
Ok cảm ơn bạn ❤❤👍🔔
Thank you very much sir. 😀👍❤️ Cheers, David
Reminds me of using a Ford 7000 backing up in the 80s (dont you just love all the safety features on his cab/roll bar !!😉)
A few farms round my way used a similar setup in the 80s, even into the 90s. Ford 7000/5000, Massey 185, Leyland 270s..
That 390 is definitely not coked up 😂
Definitely not!
Lovely…good work…our tool was a db 990..single chop silage…curiously romantic😕
That’s a coincidence Dan as years ago I remember a farm near me using a DB 990 selectamatic with rollbar on a Twose buckrake and DB 1212 driving a Tarrup single chop. Big tractors around here back then, I can picture them now. Thanks for watching and your great comment about your past. Cheers, David.
Wow…. Unreal setup and effort to make a pit!!! Nice to be uncovering in winter though!!! But how does this fair out for compaction??
Hi Jay. It gets well rolled in between filling the pit and the next full trailer arriving back from the fields. Makes such a difference on two counts, firstly a top quality silage product come the winter months and secondly every inch of space is needed in that shed because by just taking one late’ish cut every inch of space is needed. Thanks for watching and your comment. Appreciated, David.
Cabless and even the exhaust bent over by 90 degrees !
Yes, every inch counts!
Choked to death by the end of the day with diesel fumes 😂😂
We have a grease gun coupler, don't know if you use it everyday, can we do a video together?
I remember working on a farm in Eaglesfield nr lockerbie in 2005, there was a contractor who used a 390 with no cab to push up there. Maybe the same one?
Ah that’s interesting. If I think back that contractor possibly might have been Graham Rae who I seem to remember operating a 390 when the farmer had a low entry silage shed. This one’s been on this farm from new (replaced a Massey 298) but there were quite a few Duncan cabbed 390s sold in the Cumbrian/ Southern Scotland area many that are still on the farm 30 years later. Thanks for watching and your great comment, much appreciated. Cheers, Dave.
That driver has some skills. Although I never quite understood the point of those indoor silage clamps that seem to be so common in the UK. It's going to get covered in plastic anyway, isn't it?
Skilled he certainly is. Your correct on both counts, there are many indoor clamps in the UK and yes the grass does get covered in plastic. I don’t know the reason why and although I visit many farms with outdoor pits it does seem more common in my region to have an undercover clamp. With either system though I do know that there is some very high quality silage produced at the end of the day. Thanks for watching and your comment, very much appreciated. Cheers, David.
RIP 390 Exhaust.
🤣🤣
He's brave and ignorant on the forward/ reverse lever I'd say not be long before it needs a new scyncro
o0le boy uses a 290 for local farmer now he has stepped away from the contractors stuff and i hate him doing it low roof and always worry someday he will forget to duck, i have seen him on scarier pits with shovels but you always feel safer with a cab, Man is a good hand there on the 390 not leaving a big mound at the front to climb over some inexperienced would do and the shuttle is alot easier than changing on the 290 stick
Great comment. Yes you have to be always aware of the surroundings and especially those low beams. This farmer has well over 30 years experience of filling the same clamp year in year out and as you say the inexperienced would be climbing over a big mould at the entrance. As shown in the case here it’s a pretty smooth run up and an awareness of the beams. Yeh far easier with the shuttle than the old 3-stick on the floor box, no looking down to change direction! Cheers, Dave.
@@davidwinthrop7077 Heard a story of when the guy my dad worked for when i was around 3 or 4 loaned his brand new 390 to another farmer to buckrake the farmer burned the clutch out in one day lol
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Ha, bet he was popular!!
@@davidwinthrop7077 Well neaxt time my old boy was sent down and was told not to let anyone else drive it bloody crazy one day and burned out lol
@@zzirSnipzz1 😂😂
Hi great video ...Im in Cumbria too my girlfriends family use their 390 to do the exact same job with its cab off too ...where is your place at we are over nr wigton 👍
Hi Alan. It’s the north side of Carlisle, not my farm but a farmer that I’ve known for years. 390s with Duncan lift off cabs really popular in Cumbria, still quite a few of them about. Would like to see your partners family 390 buckraking as I keep meaning to look over that way maybe next year. Pleased you enjoyed the video and thanks for the comment Alan. Much appreciated, cheers Dave
@@davidwinthrop7077 they're kind of old school in their silage making her dad buckrakes with the 390... my gf leads with her mf 4000 series and her mother who us well in her 70s drives a ford 7740 and chops the grass with a claas jag 51 chopper...like they say their place isn't set up for big contractors so they just have always have done it that way so just keep going... with 2 marshall single axle silage trailers... no big contractor bills at their house...👍
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That I would definitely like to see Alan. Maybe you could get in contact with me next year if you think on. Nice one, Dave.
You'd hope it's a long draw...he has that pit filled better than a shovel plus the well chopped grass helps greatly.
Hi Michael. They were chopping a couple of fields away from the farm but as it was the back end of June was a really heavy crop and the trailers were filling up fast. Yes a lot of grass but the pit man and the 390 kept well on top of the job. Thanks for watching and your comment, greatly appreciated. Cheers, David.
Whats the carbon footprint for this? Just wondering ...
Hi Richard. I’m afraid I have absolutely no idea but no harm in asking. Cheers, David
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Take it you liked the overhead view San? Cheers, David
wild. def not his first day running that eh lol
Definitely not. 30 years of practice at it!
@@davidwinthrop7077 I don't doubt it. great video 👍👍
@@macfarms
Many thanks for that, greatly appreciated. Just been having a quick look at your dairy farm videos over in Canada and have subscribed so I can view them properly later today. Looks fabulous countryside, beautiful! Cheers, Dave
@@davidwinthrop7077 Thanks Dave.
If only they invented something called a wheel loader.
Ha, I’m sure somebody has!
If only the invented everybody with deep pockets !!
@Richard Homan
Great answer. There’s one silage cut a season on this farm and being pretty late it means a lot of grass so to avoid making a lot of round silage bales (especially with the price of wrap)as much of the shed capacity is used hence the cab on the 390 being removed and also the side facing exhaust otherwise it would defeat the whole object! Thanks for watching and the comment, both much appreciated . Cheers, Dave
@Richard Homan
Hi Richard. That’s a great story and I can just picture it in my head! I’m interested in that Case Maxxum 5220, that’s a model that was never sold over here in the UK so I’m going to have to Google it and look it up. Great to hear about farming in Canada, it’s a country I’d love to visit and see how farming is done over there! Thanks for watching and taking the time to post your great comment. Greatly appreciated. Cheers, David in the UK
@Richard Homan there are wheel loaders without a cab. I'm pretty sure they're even capable of storing the grass even higher. Wheel loaders are a lot more versatile.
Would love to be 18 and bucking up on that
As would I Eamonn!
Not his 1st time doing it. A big lump of a pit to do with a buck rale
It is a big pit with a hell of a lot of grass in it and at least a couple more fields to come. Your right Padraig, certainly not his first time on this job, same man and outfit been filling this shed for near on 30 years! Thanks for watching and your comment, always appreciated. Cheers, Dave
Sod that for a barn.
Mind your head 😂
Definitely Brendan, not much clearance in there especially when it’s full at the end! Cheers, David.
Can not do it with cab, driver was a bit slow, bless him practice makes perfect
Bolloxs acting
I don’t see the benefits of this system… difficult to work with, bad work for tractor and operator, dangerous… what’s the benefit of having silage inside… make a long pit outside and store your machines inside.. or use it for cows or something else 🤷🏻♂️
😊😊😊😊😊
Using a tractor without roll over protection in the UK is breaking PUWER98 regulations if there was an accident here HSE would have field day but what is even more stupid is to post such a dangerous operation on social media 🤷♂️
No room for a roll bar 😂😂
Not having roll over protection is perfectly legal in this situation
Mwe mwe mweeeee
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A farmer with no brains 🧠 no roll bar , or head protection, the ministry of agg will love you ,
No room for a roll bar that close too the roof 😂😂
Don’t you know it’s different rules for farmers, “it’s my land and I do what I bloody well want “! Until I kill myself.⚰
Les hasn’t been around many farms I see!!
He's not hanging about
He certainly isn’t David. Bashing on with filling the pit but making a really tidy job of it too. Cheers, David
@davidwinthrop7077 Yes, ,the pit is perfectly rolled .it's not his first time doing it
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Years of practice David