ISFP vs ISFJ

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @hillaryperez6543
    @hillaryperez6543 4 года назад +7

    nothing fires me up more than when someone argues with me about who I am - that alone is proof of high Fi. Don’t challenge our core 😂!!!!

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад +1

      Right? We have spent so much time fine tuning who we are and what makes us tick, and then Joe blow comes by and in 2 seconds he thinks he “knows” us! Boils the blood! 😂

  • @Love0Juicy
    @Love0Juicy 5 лет назад +6

    You’re so lovely Sheila! ❤️ I really enjoy your videos. You have such a calming aura that’s contagious. 🌸💝
    The description you gave of ISFJs is so spot on. They do worry about tradition and doing what their ancestors did. They do bring physical comfort to themselves and their families. They are that motherly figure that will tell you what you need to do or how to take care of yourself.
    I do agree that Fe users look at Fi and think of selfishness. I know I struggle with not seeing Fi as selfish. The thing that I admire is that they know what they want and will stand up for what they believe and want. That’s so admirable. They are an unshakable force with their Fi and used correctly, people can really benefit.
    P.s. I really love your bunny shirt!🐰🎀

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      Zandy you are too sweet Zandy! This bunny shirt is my Fav and if I could wear it everyday I would, I should buy a backup one because I’ll be sad if this one gets ruined.
      I adore my sister even though she can get a little bossy! I do feel like she judges my mothering skills because I don’t do it the way she does! Lol

  • @denisesiddon7241
    @denisesiddon7241 Год назад +1

    Fe can become fi if over stressed and traumatised. Leads to overthinking in an infp type way.
    Had to develop my fi for my own good due to past circumstances but difficult to do and worry about judgement

  • @INFPHD
    @INFPHD 5 лет назад +6

    I love the oxygen mask Fi analogy!!! ❤️

  • @tarotthoughtsinspace
    @tarotthoughtsinspace 8 дней назад

    This is a good example how you can be really good in one function and still use its shadow function when absolutely necessary. You are Fi and definitely can use Fe more as you get older... it's an area of aspiration, meaning we aspire and learn from others how to use the shadow function. I'm an Ni-dom but as I've gotten older I can slip into using Ne especially when learning how it shows up and benefits Ne users.

  • @amitgokhale5725
    @amitgokhale5725 11 месяцев назад

    Usually (as an entp) when I watch such videos it's a bunch of nerds going on about the cognitive stack and their theoretical implications and I don't always hate that.
    But talking about isjx, which are such F and S types, hearing it in such a grounded and practical manner was very refreshing!
    Been developing a crush for a while and while we're getting a long well, i was confused about her type.. now I'm thinking she might be an isfj. Anyway, thanks a lot!!

  • @sirbradfordofhousejones
    @sirbradfordofhousejones 4 года назад

    3:28 my mom does that and it is so sad. I tell her to stop- YOU CAN EAT FIRST WHEN YOU COOK! Sheila, your videos are so enlightening to me. Thank you!

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад

      You are more than welcome!

  • @elnara1
    @elnara1 Год назад +1

    Everyone can be selfish sometimes. Also, I know an INTO who would buy the same type of pants with different colors. I am an ISFJ and I don’t care about traditions at all.

  • @akaboo69
    @akaboo69 5 лет назад +8

    Fe nemesis often worries about being selfish. Fe nemesis is the 5th function of ifp

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +8

      Charles Benson that is really interesting and makes a lot of sense. I worry often about coming off selfish to others, and don’t like to be perceived that way. I think because in my heart that is not my intentions I just feel like I am honoring myself.

    • @sirbradfordofhousejones
      @sirbradfordofhousejones 4 года назад +2

      That’s why I mistyped myself as an ISFJ! Great insight, Charles

  • @Bonnie-sd7et
    @Bonnie-sd7et 4 года назад +2

    See I say I'm an ISFP yet I really love our traditions and am super drawn to what our ancestors did (historical dramas are my favourite) and the serving others resonates a bit. Colour coded hangers is like what I do with mine and my husband's clothes. I also have to be comfy and would absolutely buy pants in other colours if they fit well. I found a top last week that fits lovely and said today that I'm going back for more colours in fact. Hmm, ponderings. I'm wondering if I'm more of a judging type than I thought.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад +1

      Well as I’ve learned more about the functions I’m noticing we can all do certain things that cross over into what another type does. When you look at the functions between the 2 they are completely different! The easiest way to distinguish is are you self above tribe or tribe above self? Whose needs to you instinctually put first? As an ISFP I put my needs first and it is always work to put my needs aside and put others over mine. My husband and daughter are part of my Fi world so it is easier to do for them, but still I’m always making a conscious effort to do so

  • @livingdiystyle
    @livingdiystyle 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Sheila! This was great. I was laughing when you talked about your younger SJ sister acting like your mom... SAME! My ESFJ sister is also 3 years younger than me and of course, calls me selfish and has always viewed me as irresponsible and acts like my mom, lol. Our paralleling lives may be getting redundant, but still manages to amuse me every time! When Eric was saying your husband was possibly ENTP, somehow it wasn’t surprising to me, lol.
    Yeah, you are totally ISFP. Glad your done looking to tribe for a decision on that. If feels good to know where your at with your own type. I’ve been obsessing about typology theory in my head all weekend. I feel like I’m playing with a Rubix cube in my head with this stuff. All the different axis’s and combining everyone’s theories and trying to figure out my own version of it. I watched Meghan Levota’s video about Si yesterday and it helped me understand it so much better. My Istj mother in law is living with us and it helped me understand so many things about her. I find it interesting how Si paired with Fe behaves much different than Si and Te.
    Question for you. Do you think we have matured enough at this point that we are getting a GLIMPSE of self actualization and are now accessing the INTP personality within our Quadra (based on John Beebe/CS Joseph model). I know I’m far from an INTP, but I do think that our 1st and 8th function are on an axis. Ti is getting easier to access compared to in my past. It seems like typology forces my mind to think in a very abstract way that has become like an addiction, but I feel compelled to organize it in my mind. I don’t think my younger self could have ever wrapped my head around it, nor would I ever have even attempted it.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      Cheri Paxton that is interesting about INTP. When I was younger I would have never stopped, or slowed down to process any of this! I was too busy “doing” in my life. Now, I do find myself thinking so much more and trying to puzzle all the pieces together. Sometimes it makes my head spin, and I actually start getting light headed if I dive too deep into my head, it is like I have to snap myself back to reality and ground myself in something concrete. I actually wonder why I am obsessed with this part of typology, and Dave and Shan (OPS) talk about how we are obsessed with our “demons” which would be our Ni/Te which makes up our “NT” side so that makes total sense!
      I adore my sister, and we get along really well, but we also have a mutual understanding that she does things her way, and I do mine and we don’t tread on it. Of course, every once and awhile little jabs will come out as we point out the atrocities we see in each other! We both are really good at listening to each other and our family uses sarcasm a ton as a term of endearment. If I’m giving you crap, that means I really like you! Lol

    • @livingdiystyle
      @livingdiystyle 5 лет назад +1

      Sheila w Feeling a bit torn on the true meaning of Te. Ti seems easier to understand- it’s subjective, it’s your truth. But Te is explaining your reasons to the tribe according to OPS, Effectiveness according to Personality Hacker, and absorbing the thinking of others according to CS Joseph, however what made the most sense to me was Meghan Levota’s explanation- feeling responsible for the Tribe’s logic. This feeling of responsibility motivates a Te user to speak up. No doubt spurred on by a person’s Fi. But then again OPS also says Te + Fi= Ti, so are more like INTJ or INTP, lol?
      As I look back to when I was developing my sewing pattern business, I swear I was in INTJ mode, with absolute Fe blindspot and laser Ni focus. That Ni was like a fire 🔥 burning within me at all hours of the day. I was so focused on my goals in my business everything else was falling apart, but my business was thriving. Lately I have been analyzing the function of Ni. It seems to be a driving force, passion, doing, desire, want. I used to think Se was “doing”, but I don’t think so anymore. I gather info with Se always in preparation to “do” something because of my Ni want and desire for growth and forward movement. But right now with all this analysis, it feels so much sleepier, like the INTP’s I know in my life. They gather in with their parent spot just like we do with Ne, and then they tear it apart with their Ti with intention of organizing it with their third slot Si, possibly? Geez, I don’t know? I just know this is different for me. My sister in law is INTP and she always says the thing she admires most about me is my “doing”, not just thinking, but doing. Now it’s like we’ve flipped flopped. She’s doing and I’m in this thinking trance not doing a whole lot of anything except getting caught up in my thinking/analysis vortex! Just kidding, it’s not quite that bad, lol. Thanks for letting me unload!

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      Cheri Paxton I know when I go into a Se/Ni “loop” that is when I get laser focused on something. I always refer to it as my “balls to the wall” moments. Sometimes they last for weeks sometimes months, I will just obsess and that is all I can think of or do. Then when feel like I got what I needed or wanted from it I can move onto something else. Some things stay, and they get put to the back burner on simmer. I still enjoy the said topics but the fire just is on low, not full steam ahead. My husband will say “oh there she goes again”......and I’m off on some new fun escapade

    • @livingdiystyle
      @livingdiystyle 5 лет назад +1

      Sheila w Balls to wall moments are epic! Haha, lol 😂

  • @veronicasong7603
    @veronicasong7603 5 лет назад +9

    Aww.. you are adorable! 😊 I’m totally into MBTI but I don’t subscribe to Fi is selfish. I’ve met many Fi’s that are self sacrificing. What counts is not which order you did it, but overall what did you contribute.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +3

      Veronica Song aww, thank you for your lovely comment! You are right I think anyone can be selfish or self sacrificing and a healthy combination of both! Lol

  • @7of913
    @7of913 5 лет назад +4

    I am thinking you have the NI toggle (eye movement). So I lean towards isfp as well. Must say such style you have!😁

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      7 Of 9 thanks! Yes, the “SF” vibe come easily for me! I have always loved hair, makeup, and style. Se is a strong suit for me!

    • @Bonnie-sd7et
      @Bonnie-sd7et 4 года назад +1

      What's the Ni eye toggle?!

    • @7of913
      @7of913 4 года назад +1

      @@Bonnie-sd7et It is a snappy back and forth movement usually between two points. Cognitivetypes and Casual Cognition on RUclips do visual typing aids.

    • @senantiasa
      @senantiasa 4 года назад +1

      @@7of913 But overall, her eye movements are very erratic and jumps randomly to all directions and not just between two horizontal points, confirming (at least for me) that she is actually an Se user.

  • @themoonbleu627
    @themoonbleu627 5 лет назад +2

    So pretty !!

  • @Moana_moo
    @Moana_moo 5 лет назад +1

    ISFP and i love being cozy as well,yet sometimes I’ll wanna get a little “dirty”. I enjoy going horse riding and going to farms.
    Also when i Find something i like i wanna have it on every colour but simply because i can’t decide which colour should i buy because my closet is also a variety of clothes. Like i go from biker shorts and oversized t-shirts to blazer dress and formal clothes.
    I sometimes am a people pleaser but i have Well defined boundaries and nobody will cross them(sometimes they do and then i argue). My grandma is ISFJ and i see so many differences she is like”it will be this way because that’s how it was in The past” and then i’m like”If everyone thought this way we would still live in caves with no electricity.”
    I am also pretty selfish like i usually put myself first. I do volunteer but i don’t care this much about people i volunteer more for experiencing different things and because i am bored. Like once we were in The middle of a session and my sister called me(she is ESTP) that my mom and her went to buy Christmas gifts and if i want to go with them. I left The kids there and i went shopping(i Felt a bit bad but still...). I am compassionate and stuff but i tend to be selfish as Well. Like people always tells me that i should act differently because i should be a role model for my little sister. I don’t feel that responsability. Not at all. I believe everyone is responsible for The way they behave themselves i am not the One who should compromise myself just for her. Like i believe in being good and shit but i don’t believe in faking perfection just for making others happy. I have ISFJ classmates and they are so teacher pet it makes me vomit. Like our form teacher chose the seat for us and i happen to sit in The front row(i hate it) and The ISFJ classmate was asked to sit in back row(she hates it). I suggested her to change seats and she was like”The teacher told us to sit here”. And i’m like”Fine then...”. I used to be friends with them but i Felt like i had to compromise my rebbelious artistic soul too much so Even though i don’t feel like i belong 100% there i’m in The popular crowd. I am actually pretty chill and quiet compared to them and i’m not popular myself but somehow i get invited everywhere with them. My rebbelious soul feels good there. I go with the flow but it’s because that flow fits me not because “I have to”.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад

      Thank you for your comment, I love hearing how other ISFPs relate to things. We are all different enough yet have similar threads that weave us together

  • @dallasj22266
    @dallasj22266 4 года назад

    I find Fi and Fe so hard to parse out within myself. I just have both of them!!!!

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад

      That was one thing I struggled with too. I think being a lead F we are just good with feelings in general. What I realized is Fi is more about values. I know exactly what I value and my convictions and no one can budge them. Yes we are great at the feelings too and processing them.

  • @BlairWaldorf2013
    @BlairWaldorf2013 5 лет назад +4

    Yeah I tried with an ISFP guy and I’m an INTJ and the selfishness was just too much. It was like being around a child in an adult’s body and it was hard to deal with.
    I think ISFPs are nice and have some great qualities but that selfishness is really hard because the world doesn’t revolve around the self and it seemed like he couldn’t compromise even 1inch.
    I also can’t take someone not being able to deal with less than ‘happy’ emotions, it’s like you can’t control emotions to that degree and the fact that he would eliminate anything that requires him to feel something other than ‘happy’ just kind of came off superficial to me as an INTJ.
    I didn’t want to feel like I had to constantly monitor myself around him to protect him from any situation or emotion that made him ‘feel’ a certain way. I felt like I had to stifle myself around him kind of like a parent has to constantly coddle a kid to keep them from having a tantrum or something.
    As you can imagine we INTJs don’t do well with thinking we have to coddle anyone so I just decided to leave it be with him. But he’s a super nice guy if you just don’t get to close to him to see that side.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      It can be a struggle when our first function is all consuming. Naturally, I just look to myself for everything, good situations and bad. On the positive side that makes ISFP very self reliant, self entertaining, self motivating. We are very “self “ centered and when we aren’t willing to cater to others often, we can box ourselves into a lonely corner. It really is balancing that little weak Te function and it takes self awareness and really wanting to work and change that in ourselves. It really is like all ours functions, how we mature as well rounded humans is our choice. We have the choice to be all in on one function or not, and sooner or later we reap what we sow. Hope the next ISFP you meet leaves a better taste in your mouth ;)

  • @Haxelmoon
    @Haxelmoon 4 года назад +1

    Lol i was asking myself what isfj is like now I know 😂 i luv isfjs if i met them i think we would click naturally .

  • @turquoisepaws
    @turquoisepaws 3 года назад

    am an INFP whom tends to feels good after helping others

  • @davidkepke1435
    @davidkepke1435 5 лет назад +3

    I could tell you didn’t believe you were isfj at the end of that video.

    • @davidkepke1435
      @davidkepke1435 5 лет назад +3

      I see Fe in you. What you just described in this video about yourself is classic Fe.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +4

      David Kepke yes, I know I’m not ISFJ. I described both Fi and Fe in the video. For me my morals are what drives me in everything I do. It is me being true to my beliefs, and what I think is right or wrong. I never look to society or what the majority thinks. I have my own set of morals and I live for them. Everything is filtered through them. (Fi) I use “Fe” when I have to Fe. Fi doms are very good at Fe if they want to be. I don’t think everyone is ever going to agree on a person’s type, everyone is going to have their opinions on what they see and I respect that. ;)

  • @kjdaniels3267
    @kjdaniels3267 5 лет назад +5

    You’re description of ISFJs is good but it doesn’t cover everything exclusively. This is what I think as an ISFJ
    Si is like a web of past stored sensory impressions unique to the individual. This is constantly being modified overtime as we get new sensory impressions and add them to our web. This gives SJ types a unique personalized worldview. It’s very subjective compared to Se which is more focused at looking at the sensory data in the present w/o bias. There’s a stereotype that SJs solely like tradition for tradition’s sake. This is false. If SJs have had a traumatic or bad experience with a tradition then they won’t want to do that again. Or if a tradition doesn’t have a lot of personalized meaning to it. My point is, because Si is a highly subjective function two Si users can have differing viewpoints on tradition/memories. Fe description was good for the most part. I definitely like to help others and create win-win scenarios for everyone. I’ll admit I can see Fi users as selfish at times but learning about MBTI has helped me understand their differences. They’ve even taught me about putting myself first sometimes ☺️

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for your insight as an ISFJ is for you! I love hearing from you guys!

  • @kendrabell5217
    @kendrabell5217 4 года назад

    I’ll be honest I came here because I’ve known about personality types for a few years, but am just now learning about functions... well I’m trying to learn about them because I’m playing a table top role playing game similar to D&D. I’m wanting to write some backstory for my character now that I’ve played her a while. And so I’ve been trying to assign personality types to the characters from her past in her story. Her name is Maya. She’s a dark elf sorceress. She has a large variety of spells bc she loves lots of options. She has tattoos she puts spells in and she’s an artist so she uses her magic to bring her art to life. She’s a young adult, naive, wants to explore the world. She’s very friendly to others even though her appearance is off putting (her race). I’ve typed her as being an ISFP based off my research. And her love interest (whom I typed as ISFJ) is a ranking officer in the military. So that’s why I’m here. An ENFP trying to learn about that dynamic so I can write a story about my table top character. Lol. It is very interesting seeing someone of the same personality type as a character I created talk about this stuff. You have a lovely vibe
    oh yeah the other thing with my character, though Maya is good, her powers come from her evil ancestor who possesses her (an ENTJ). It’s interesting!

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад

      That is very cool! It sounds like a great story! That is one thing about me, I am not creative when it comes to dreaming up stories out of thin air. I do think that is an Ne gift (in general) and I’m lacking in the Ne department! Lol

  • @stevencampbell9087
    @stevencampbell9087 4 года назад +2

    I thought you were 25.

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад +2

      Yay! I’ll take that, considering my almost twice that number! Lol I can also say I’ve never done any Botox or enhancing! Decent genetic and a healthy lifestyle 😜

  • @donot_messup_mytempo
    @donot_messup_mytempo 4 года назад

    I am honestly here confused, I basically think and know i am an ISFP, i rebel a lot and do things on my way a lot and always know what i want.The Problem here is I don't have a set goal yet,I also have fear losing my close ones or them dying on me. So i think i put others first in time of danger.I don't know. Sometimes i think i am super selfish.Most of the time actually. I always try to pretend that i am kind and think about other people first,when i actually don't. I am confused honestly.Recently someone said they think I'm an isfj,And i don't like that idea. Like i felt like they want me to be an ISFJ so,i ended up giving them silent treatment 😂 So yyeah, i am confused. Can anyone give me any pointers to know which i am actually? I am a big procrastinator too. Mixed up traits and feelings here😅 Help me if anyone can, please ❤

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  4 года назад +1

      I would watch a lot of davesuperpowers on the different functions, and then start asking your friends and family what they see in you. Sometimes it is hard to see what we are really doing sometimes.

    • @donot_messup_mytempo
      @donot_messup_mytempo 4 года назад

      @@sheandg Thank you for your help, I'll definitely try it, I honestly relate a lot with you, So thank you for helping us to know ourselves better❤😘

  • @jikookbr7498
    @jikookbr7498 5 лет назад

    I'm ISFP , what is my ideal partiner ?

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +4

      Hi fellow ISFP! I know many people have opinions on different types that mesh with ISFPs but I don’t know the perfect answer. I would say the best partner is someone who is willing to embrace our independence and our need for our quiet downtime. I would say to stay away from anyone who doesn’t share your deep important non negotiable morals. Someone who is secure in themselves and not controlling. Someone with the same zest for experience as you. Those are all core values I see in many ISFPs so if you can find someone that you can just truly be yourself around and they have your back then you are golden!
      I would say probably not another Fi dom and maybe someone that has Fe a little lower too. That is just my opinion ;)

    • @jikookbr7498
      @jikookbr7498 5 лет назад

      @@sheandg thanks to answer me! 😃

    • @Dani-jo9yr
      @Dani-jo9yr 5 лет назад +1

      Some EJ are great, even out!!💞

    • @sheandg
      @sheandg  5 лет назад +2

      D. McG. Yes, EJ and IPs make a great combo! I love Te peeps

  • @themoonbleu627
    @themoonbleu627 5 лет назад +2

    I’m an estp you are edgy I would like at you and assume isfp over Isfj and your energy when communicating is more isfp