O magnum mysterium (Victoria) - New York Polyphony
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- O magnum mysterium - Tomás Luis de Victoria (1548-1611)
Recorded live September 2012 at the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Times Square, New York City.
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Absolutly wonderfull! Felicitations chers amis!!!
I love how you guys really 'sing' this literature, and don't hold back in the bigger places. It sounds amazing, and makes me want to sing with you!
The Gabrieli Consort and Players perform this piece of music also. they do not pronounce there c as s. Just saying> I love Victoria!
Fantastic performance! Also the church is perfect because of the acoustics.
sharing this with my high school music students today. BEAUTIFUL.
I was first introduced to this kind of music in high school and it changed my life.
I am just purely in love with your Countertenor (as a countertenor myself) and Bass. Simply beautiful, natural and mesmerising. I wish the best and look forward to your other performances...
I always thought Victoria wrote the most beautiful religious music of the early period.
Good heavens that's beautiful.
Thanks, Elyse. We'll try to keep things interesting! Did you download our recording of Tallis' "If ye love me"? It's FREE. There's a link (and a video) on our RUclips channel.
One of my favorites! Beautifully sung guys!
Thanks this song touches my spirit and harkens the power of Christ to heal the world with love and forgiveness and kindness. He came with a message of Love, healing and forgiveness but this Evil world crucified him!! No other has changed the world like He and his message of Love.
my most most favorite - shivers
I was taught this piece of music many, many years ago. We pronounced the 'pacem" as "Pah Chem",
'viscera ' as 'Vee shey rah"
You guys are outstanding and I hope you continue singing for as long as you enjoy it!
Tis the season to listen to this song over and over and over again...
+Elyse Oiralinde Yes. you are so right Elyse. This is the music of the season and I love it. Heard it last Friday at the Shrine of the Imaculate Conception in Washington DC. It was playing in my head as I walked home. I should of driven because it was so cold, but this playing in my head kept me warm.
Elyse Rinehart: Any season is the season imho!
Wow. Of course this motet is beyond praise but the sonority of the low pitch and the blend of the voices is sumptuously beautiful. Thank you.
All thé World IS quiet, thé Angels are singing😊😊😊😊😊😊
Our "home" church is Saint Mary the Virgin Times Square. That's where we rehearse when we're not touring. It's also where we've recorded most of our videos.
Gorgeous singing. I love the countertenor, the bass (great voice) and all of it. It's all so IN TUNE ! Well done.
Only 4 chorists for such a beautiful and powerful music !
Just wonderful.
You blokes have just moved me to tears. Seriously. Absolutely beautiful.
I love your interpretation!! I´m from Spain..and i sing poliphony too..Good good sound really!
My most most favorite Early Music piece ever! First sang it 40 years ago but these guys nailed it! Next time in NYC....
Just four........Wow there're good!!
Thanks! Check out our new videos!
gibshillpics: they’re good
What beautifful voices!!!
Nice job. Beautiful voices, tight harmony.
Why do we even need women.
Che bellezza.
Great acoustics. I enjoyed your interpretation of the "Alleluia" section.
Especially heartfelt!
Realmente una gran interpretación chicos! Dos cosas: felicidades por vuestra vocalidad, por cantar en el tono adecuado y por la acertada proporción en el “alellluia” final. Congrats!
Buena ejecución en general, pero la parte del Aleluya si hubiera sido un poco más rápida hubiese estado mejor.
I'm a woman, and I actually tend to agree with you in regards to this kind of choral music. The female voice just pierces through too much and isn't as pleasant in these beautiful harmonies.
Great!
its a difficult piece for a man to sing in falsetto.. but done well.
there is one on youtube by Harry Christophers and the Sixteen. do a search, you will not be disappointed.
How latin should be pronounced is a matter of debate, even within a country, depending on the secular or religious setting, and also of the way ones own mothertongue is pronounced. Even on the continent, every country has slight differences, though they all try to make it sound as italian as they can. But the Brits do it very different, don't know why. Maybe because they stepped away from Rome 500 years ago. I decided not to let that bother me, and just listen to the music.
Stellar is a good term! I have lost count of the times I've sung this, but as these fellows show, the blend is what really sells it. How many voices do you muster for similar choral works, perhaps double-choir; Gabrielli, Schutz, Monteverdi, Lassus, that lot? I shall try to follow NYP and see what new gems they favor us with. Thanks guys, from an old choral warhorse.
In english speaking countries when singing latin pieces the c is often pronounced as s. Listen to most of the great college choirs of England. Don't get too worked up about it. It's a shame it makes it unable for you to enjoy a really good performance.
I have heard the Sixteen in performance and they were wonderful. I lived in Cambridge for a while a long time ago, but never got up your way.
Just came from their concert in Lubbock tonite. The FUMC was a great venue (no amplification) and the reception afterwards was fantastic, They were last to leave and mingled with all interested to talk music.
Latin text
O magnum mysterium,
et admirabile sacramentum,
ut animalia viderent Dominum natum,
jacentem in praesepio!
Beata Virgo, cujus viscera
meruerunt portare
Dominum Christum.
Alleluia.
English translation
O great mystery,
and wonderful sacrament,
that animals should see the new-born Lord,
lying in a manger!
Blessed is the Virgin whose womb
was worthy to bear
Christ the Lord.
Alleluia!
Even though I've sung this countless times, this performance takes me to new heights. ¡Alucinante! I love the slow Alleluia.
Since it's a video, couldn't they have done it from memory? We do, but then again, their repertoire might be a bit bigger. BTW, many countertenors can sing bass.
Feel free to post it wherever you'd like! (Sorry for the slow response.)
Beautiful! Thank you so much for this.
("sistermonster", I'd love to see your blog and hear the music you choose!)
Er, I think he's singing counter-tenor, not falsetto... And doing so brilliantly, it has to be said.
This is one of my favorite choir pieces, and you bring out the beauty of the piece. You have such a gentle approach to the intricacies of the piece. What a wonderful job! I am glad I stumbled upon your channel. Subscribed and am now a fan! :-D
This is a piece frequently performed, but I was amazed and delighted with the beauty and perfection of this performance. I am a new fan of New York Polyphony!
Just by golly awesome, asfitting for the subject! Thanks so much!
Bravo! Thank you gentlemen! One of my favorite pieces of music sung beautifully!
I'll be back to listen many more times! Bravo! Bravo!
That was phenomenal! I am amazed that four men can pull of an SATB piece meant for a choir! Bravo sirs!
Come to England and sing for us in York Minster! let the acoustics lift your voices.
This gave me chills!
In which church do you usually sing? If you usually sing in a church of course!
Congratilations for your fantastic work and sound. I am deeply impressed! My best wishes!
Wow....wonderful!
I am just blown away. This is a stellar performance of this piece! Thank you for posting.
Four Angels here, in the reality, ...Thanks....
Congratulations, it's a wonderful approach to this repertoire. Very emotional.
Singing this Sunday in a quartet at my church job, LOVE this recording!
I really appreciate how the dissonances are embraced and caressed in this performance.
So this is what people do when they don't get into chanticleer
just noticed this is in fact a response to that very video..
maraviglia, e imponente , veramente secreto e sostenutto
OGM what an amazing bass. I want to be you when I grow up!
toda una inspiracion sus cantos!... felicitaciones
Best quartet I think I've ever heard. Thanks for the upload!
fabulous, wish I could hear the alto line better
It's beautiful, I have to say. But I had to stop it when they got to "iacentem in praesepio...O beata virgo cuius vicera" because they pronounced the "c"'s like "s"'s which is horribly incorrect in BOTH classical and choral latin. I take latin and choir and my latin teacher who studied in Vatican City confirmed that in choral/ecclesiastical latin, the c in iacentem and vicera must be pronounced "ch". Plus the falsetto man makes it sound watery because falsetto sounds very thin.
Not in Spanish. Falsettist sopranos and altos were the rule in Spain in Victoria's time. This one has far more body to his sound thatn the usual whingeing female sopranos one gets singing this repertoire.
Wonderful sound. Contratenor, respect! Keep good working!
I have heard other groups sing 'c' as 's' instead of 'ch'. I prefer the 'ch' sound. Still, I don't let that get in the way of enjoying the singing. And a thin-sounding falsetto sound? I WISH my falsetto were as good as his is! Thanks for posting this video.
Victoria was Spanish. I wonder how he would have pronounced this letter?
Super beau! Bravo! Encore! Encore!
This the best version I've ever heard
This counter tenor is amazing I’ve been following his RUclips posts , in my top 10 counter tenor list with Deller and Scholl
I'll let him know. :) Thanks for posting.
Stunning performance.
Great work!
Very good Very good !!!!!
Que belleza, felicidades!!!
beautifully
sweet serenity, thank you
amazing!
Loved it.
Oh my god, incredible!!
時が止まったような錯覚に陥る
Hermoso!
Fabulous 🎶✨!
The most beautiful I’ve ever heard it... just WOW
Thanks! We need to add some new video content.
Great!
Congratulations!!!!!
I would think that when singing a polyphonic work written in Latin, one would use the pronunciation of the Church, ecclesiastical pronunciation which is the norm in the Church. It would seem logical to me. Prayers said in Latin, be it in a secular or religious context are pronounced with the ecclesiastical pronunciation... carolineleiden
Which ecclesiastical pronunciation are you referring to? 'Church Latin' which is sung with Italianate pronunciation? Or Anglican pronunciation, which is traditional English groups, as this is performed in an Episcopalian church?
Really, this should be sung with the Spanish regional Latin pronunciation, which differs from both the English and Italian pronunciation. For a historically correct, if seemingly extreme example of regional Latin, check the French Latin of Ensemble Organum's rendition of Messe de Nostre Dame: ruclips.net/video/1gEV42RKf6E/видео.html
Which is the greater crime, studio shenanigans and "autotune", or massive amounts of natural reverb?
munchinion I think you may be lost sweetie
Lucy Foster He (munchinion) answered your full of pedantry question
Enrique Expósito Love yourself.
Autotune and studio shenanigans!
This music was written specifically for this kind of space. This is exactly how it's supposed to sound.
Buena ejecución; han entendido bien la música del gran Victoria.
No es de Victoria.
My high school honors choir is singing this at districts for my states music competition this weekend😅😅
I am planning on doing a series on my favorite carols as I count down to Christmas this year on my blog. Would you mind if I embedded this video into one such post, giving you full credit? I would like to link to your website as well, so that people who are interested can purchase some of your work.
I do not have many followers for my blog (just one of the masses), but some of my readers love beautiful music as much as I do.
I will never know why Victoria seems to be always ranked above Guerrero and Morales. His music, compared to theirs, always seems to rely on standard cadences and devices, while the other two excite me far more : Guerrero with denser textures, never ending lines and soaring canons and Morales' with nearly as much of that but also a special inevitable quality , as if the music is happening by itself and all he had to do was pluck it out of the air (I know that's waffle), but I have FG and CdeM dead-heating, and TLdeV comes in a poor third for me, if even that, for what about Alonso Lobo? You are a great group for this music.You look as if you just wandered in off the street to sing in a church. Please wander into one near me, and let me know in advance. .