I have a hard time with "don't focus on soil but focus on plant health" because it's what has lead us to so many problems in conventional agriculture, focusing on feeding the plant ourselves
I think we need to remember that this focus completely ignored the aspect of soil biology. In conventional agriculture, soil biology doesn't exist. Soil is treated like an inanimate growing medium. Therefore, because the soil didn't matter, plant health was seen as not just top priority, but the only priority. (Oh yes, and NPK was the main focus too, with past beliefs that micro-nutrients were immeasurable therefore unimportant. Just like... soil biology, lol.) That said John's context for "focus on plant health, not soil" deliberately, and I cannot stress that enough, include and *thoroughly acknowledges* the important aspect of soil biology. If you get a chance to listen to his presentations on the plant health pyramid he developed, you'll find he talks extensively about the link between satisfying plant health and thereby satisfying the need to build the soil food web. I'll admit it took me a few listens to understand what he was talking about because I too believed the "soil first, plants second" mantra of the regenerative ag movement, but the more I listen to the details he has to share, the more it makes sense.
Ok I must admit this threw me for a loop. I've heard John talk several times before and this is the first time I've heard him say this. I've always gotten the impression that he was also of the "focus on the soil" group. How do we make the plant healthy, if the soil isn't? Yes I understand it's the plants that feed the soil which then feeds, through the microbes, the plants.
Please watch AEA's OVER AND OVER AGAIN: 1. Health Pyramid video 2. Critical point of influence video 3. Why plant diseases increase before harvest video. if you're outside the US, you must try what I say, try like a cult since you can't buy his products. But his videos did share everything. Use your best intelligence and grit to learn from his videos.
We in Asia like to make fermented liquid fertilizer. It can be made from various materials, for example, moringa, grass etc. Can liquid fertilizer spray like that increase the photosynthetic capacity of plants too?
I thought it could take only a few weeks/months or one growing season to reach the 4 levels of plant health. Why would it take 3 to 5 years with growers to transition?
I imagine it has something to do with the soil not being at it's best the 1st season you make the change. Also, microbes in the soil go down deeper when winter hits, I imagine that slows down the transformation process.
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What is the microbial innoculant that can negate stunting from persistent Glyphosate again? Can someone refer me what is it?
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I have a hard time with "don't focus on soil but focus on plant health" because it's what has lead us to so many problems in conventional agriculture, focusing on feeding the plant ourselves
I think we need to remember that this focus completely ignored the aspect of soil biology. In conventional agriculture, soil biology doesn't exist. Soil is treated like an inanimate growing medium. Therefore, because the soil didn't matter, plant health was seen as not just top priority, but the only priority. (Oh yes, and NPK was the main focus too, with past beliefs that micro-nutrients were immeasurable therefore unimportant. Just like... soil biology, lol.)
That said John's context for "focus on plant health, not soil" deliberately, and I cannot stress that enough, include and *thoroughly acknowledges* the important aspect of soil biology. If you get a chance to listen to his presentations on the plant health pyramid he developed, you'll find he talks extensively about the link between satisfying plant health and thereby satisfying the need to build the soil food web.
I'll admit it took me a few listens to understand what he was talking about because I too believed the "soil first, plants second" mantra of the regenerative ag movement, but the more I listen to the details he has to share, the more it makes sense.
You did not listen... Relisten and do... You're hard time shall disappear
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Ok I must admit this threw me for a loop. I've heard John talk several times before and this is the first time I've heard him say this. I've always gotten the impression that he was also of the "focus on the soil" group. How do we make the plant healthy, if the soil isn't? Yes I understand it's the plants that feed the soil which then feeds, through the microbes, the plants.
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@@investinginregenerativeagr8568 Thanks! :D
But I was hoping you would have an actual answer as well
Please watch AEA's OVER AND OVER AGAIN: 1. Health Pyramid video 2. Critical point of influence video 3. Why plant diseases increase before harvest video.
if you're outside the US, you must try what I say, try like a cult since you can't buy his products. But his videos did share everything. Use your best intelligence and grit to learn from his videos.
We in Asia like to make fermented liquid fertilizer. It can be made from various materials, for example, moringa, grass etc. Can liquid fertilizer spray like that increase the photosynthetic capacity of plants too?
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I thought it could take only a few weeks/months or one growing season to reach the 4 levels of plant health.
Why would it take 3 to 5 years with growers to transition?
I imagine it has something to do with the soil not being at it's best the 1st season you make the change. Also, microbes in the soil go down deeper when winter hits, I imagine that slows down the transformation process.