Irish fan of the pod here 🍀The punditry on this is so much more balanced and informative compared to the biased nonsense on the Breakdown. Cheers lads!
@@chasey2327 how is a 30-38 loss better or a 37-7 loss better. Stop living in the past . It’s like saying the proteas are a cool side to watch because they score lots of sixes but can’t win.
@@chasey2327 That 2nd Irish test wasnt a test it was a brawl and yeah the Irish won but it wasn't a spectacle to be proud of. The Abs vs. Boks is the bench mark always has been.
Springboks - a world-class side, very hard to take them down this season. Playing them, and in South Africa, will be a good and important step in the journey towards "our" previous position of best in the World. Go the ABs and good luck, also to the Coach and his staff, I'm putting it out there, that the bounce is going to go our way 🏴
Of coarse they are ready, and will challenge the Springboks all the way. They are a never say "die" team with an always desire to win every game they play. But then again, there is an on fire team to beat. Go Bokke, Speel en wen, want julle kan en gaan 👏👏👏❤👏👏👏
I have my doubts the all Blacks are ready. It’s early with a new coaching regime. South Africa know their identity. They can play any style. They have a magnificent team. But I will never write off our mighty blacks. They have the talent and can beat any team on their day.
Can never write off the All Blacks, as an Irish man I know this painfully well. While I agree with the guys here about the good performance from the ABs, the Boks are a different beast entirely. You will not get any time on the ball, they chase everything, they smash everything. If you do get parity with them in the collisions then you have to take every point on offer. You get in their 22, you better get points. Shut down their wings and stop their maul, they haven't showed any other way to score tries, apart from turnover ball, unless Mr Brown's genius starts coming out more you can keep them from getting over the try line. Strike plays off set piece will be big here. Best of luck!!
What is an attack shape 30:10 Is Clarke and Jordan the best wing combo 35:00 Is Blackadder finding the rhythm in the team 37:30 Being big vs Playing Big - When size doesn't always matter 39:24 Tamaiti Williams made a big statement for further selection 41:57
As a South African and a former rugby player, I love all commentary .Agree that the All Blacks are a grate rugby team that are building and come 2027 they will be the favorites' again. For the Two games in South Africa I predict a win for All Blacks and a win for Boks. Tight games with tight score lines just as we would expect it. South Africans like a challenge that's when we do well. So you All Blacks bring your A game please and come enjoy South African hospitality and nice hot weather. and the Brannas!!See you next week.
Good win against Aregentina. Not fully convinced ABs are genuinely back to form as they think they are. The SA tour will let us know where they really are
I always need a notepad every time I watch this podcast because of the amount of golden nuggets from the Bryn and James. These guys know their rugby and they explain it in a way that even a layman can understand.
Parsons, give credit where credit is due, Bro. Back in the days the All Blacks was dominating the game with a two man squad, they also took advantage of the last 20min of the game. Remember, all international teams have brilliant players and gone are the days of beating any team in the first half, even if you got a good lead, the other team will come back to either close the gap or come to win. So, the game has evolved, and the team who can and has the players with both hard and talent combined will find a way to make it or break the finish line, although it doesn't need to be pretty, a win will matter for which ever team are taking their chances, and believes in their game plan and playing abilities. Nice podcast. Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
When it comes to AB vs Boks, it so unpredictable because the intensity just seems to go a few levels up. Both excellent teams and intelligent coaches. Form book goes out the window. I'm excited to see them in SA. 🎉
Totally agree with him on the weight concept. Its not about the actual weight, it how they make use of their weight that gives them a BIG effect on the field. One of the reasons i dont take note of the scrum weights too much. Most cases the bok pack is lighter than opponent packs. It how they scrum that gives them super duper powers
Also think the boks conditioning in the forwards is immense. There are no guys carrying excess weight. They get round the park. Have the strength without the puppy fat. That 2019 forward pack absolutely demolished Dan Cole
As Brynn said I too am excited. NZ looking good, SA looking good, just another epic clash between the best two teams in the world and I can't wait more greast rugby. I'm SA living in England and your's is one of my favourite channels. Thankyou
Thank you for your insightful explanation of the game's finer points. It's a missed opportunity that a deeper understanding of tactics and strategies isn't more widely promoted. Formula 1's success in engaging fans through technical content demonstrates the value of such initiatives. Rugby's tactical and strategic elements are not as daunting as they might seem, and their exploration could significantly enhance fan engagement.
@@timbaker4253 What?You know if we loose this game we might loose our number one spot to friggin Ireland...plus...a lot of Kiwis think we only won the WC because we played against 14...plus...we owe them one at Ellis Park...remember last year's Championship?..a week after smashing them in Mbombela...No buddy..there is a lot to prove..We need to dominate between WCs as well...like the ABs did when they went back to back..
All blacks always has a chance. Its like the clasico for me. Form is important but our nations are so good at the game that what separates us the the desire to win on the day. May we have an epic game 🤝🏼
I think Australia rugby is under huge pressure because of rugby league. It's simpler so more people get into it faster. I think part of opening up the game to larger audiences comes down to the complexity of the scrum. What if you put censors in the forwards' shoulder pads and show pressure points in real time? This would 'gamify' it a little making it more interesting, but we might also start to see patterns in who started pushing first, what happened just before a collapse etc. Please let me know what you guys think 😊
Challenge, as always between the Boks and the AB's, accepted! There is no such thing as a "weak" All Black team, this we South Africans know all to well. May it be massive, and it will be. Welcome, as always, back to South Africa, you magnificent AB's. And God help you, because we won't! Can't wait for the games, it's always between the two of us for the top of the pile, the beers and braai are on us! Long live the greatest sporting rivalry in the history of Humankind. Always massive respect for the AB's, Bok Forever however, and cheers from South Africa! (I reckon Boks to win both, but not by far, and as long as its not by one point again, my girlfriend won't mind sleeping on the couch again.)
Great show, and thanks for the insights. Question - How much practice goes into drop kicks, as we hardly see that in the AB'S DNA... RWC finals, Game vs England - We never seemed to call or shape for a drop goal. It will be a useful change vs the Springboks. Thoughts 😊
I think if the All Blacks can squeak one test you’d consider it a successful fortnight away. The Saffers have had the wood on us for at least a couple years. Not a huge gap but the Saffers have had a slim margin, they have good discipline, are the fittest they’ve ever been and their bench is probably the best it’s ever been too. Will be a tough win if they can achieve it.
Roll on the 2 tests in S.A. cannot wait. How would you feel if boks win all 6 games wow but how to do it problem is the AB's are the AB's one of the best rugby nations with S.A. The AB's black strip and haka we will I hope have the Zulus on the field during the haka
As always, it can go either way. Besides, this competition has belonged to the ABs for a thousand years. Boks suck at being favourites anyway. Nah, it is going to be a momentous clash...just the way we like it. Go Springboks, good luck ABs. Really good pod you guys have here...
The Boks are a formidable opponent, always physical and toughest playing on their own turf. They are, however, also startlingly inconsistent, instinctively conservative in their tactics, and entirely beatable. The question is, or should be, do the All Blacks possess the squad to tackle the Boks in key areas: set piece and defense will be key, as will respect for possession and intelligent game management. Concerningly, all of these areas were noticeably shaky in the two tests against England and the first test against Argentina.
Never underestimate an AB side. The first game against Argentina was a fluke. Dmac is finding his feet and can rely on powerful forwards coupled with the backline experience of TJ and BB. Savea can break open a game all by himself. Gonna be a massive game! Just hope there'll be no cards. But this Bok team is something else. You face a 100% strength team for the full 80, nothing is diluted by the bench. Expect war!
I don't think the first game against Argentina was a fluke though.... What about that huge loss against the Springboks before the World Cup? If that is also a fluke then the All Blacks are having many 'Fluke' losses.
It was not the first time you lost against Argentina, it was the third time. Calling Argentina's win a fluke is disrespectful. They were not lucky, they were the better team on the day.
I'm happy for NZ picking DMAC - he will cost NZ loads of games. he is up and down. Let's hold thumbs they pick him for the test here in SA. Played 2 test against agentina -lost one won one - hardly finding his feet
The Boks still left some points on the table in the first match too, especially that Willie Le Roux howler. However none of that will matter at Ellis Park: it's a coin toss in my opinion, no favourite
My question for this week: with all this talk of the Springboks having got a leg up on us by joining the Northern H club competitions - what if there was a way we could do the same? Like, we're too far away to do what SA have done fully. But what about creating a "NZ Warriors"-like club side that was based in France fulltime, but affiliated with NZR like the Super clubs are? Then any NZ players that wanted to get exposed to NH rugby could opt to play for that club, but still be picked for the ABs. Would allow us to get exposure to top NH competitions, build the NZ rugby brand, and be at least a partial solution for the overseas player dilemma. Also another side to build depth for the NZ player pool. Could even be bankrolled by a wealthy Frenchman who loves the ABs, who knows...
Look as a South African. Both sides did 40 minutes of what they can do. Full 80 will be required here. The championship is up for grabs in the next two weeks so both sides will be up for it. Where Argentina failed and SA may need to be up for is if we win the first test we need to be better the next week. New Zealand are like the Doomsday of rugby if they lose on a certain aspect they come back 7 days later immune.
For perspective, the Boks have won 26 Tests at home, the All Blacks 25 and one has been drawn, and the average score is 20-19 to the All Blacks. It's not for the faint hearted.
Yes the ABs are ready for the Boks but i got a big hassle for the new scrumhalf and flyhalf they got.If the ABs can get Smith and Richie back in the team than it will be a horse with a different colour.Surely a win over the Boks.
As an AB fan I am a little concerned. Traditionally, we would find another gear in the last 20min of the game, and bury teams. These days, however, we seem to struggle to put points on teams in the 2nd half. Game 1 against Arg, we put 20 points on them in the 1st half, and only 10 in the 2nd half. In game 2, we put 35 points on them 1st half, and only 7 in the 2nd half. The Boks have world cup winning defense, and they don't give away points.
As a south African agree with the statement but then again I feel we dont convert points well in the first half. We've been fit enough to come back later in the game. Don't think you can miss points against the ABs, they will break you
The ABs have just two games this year they really really really want to win. Those are the two tests in SA. It will make the loss in the final last year a lot more palatable (albeit not fully edible). The ABs have come to South Africa with one goal in mind. Beat SA in both tests...Fullstop! Its going to be massive, and I suspect the Springboks feel the same, beat NZ in both tests and you can experiment for the rest of the year.
1996 the AB had never lost 35-7 to the boks - never lost 3 test to argentina (2 at home ) - lost a test series to ireland (at home) Playing Super rugby against yourself has cost you buddy
As a relatively newer rugby fan I find myself struggling to understand the AB’s contestable kicking strategy - in so many matches the kicks are put up, but NOBODY chases and they ultimately turn over the ball and give up massive amounts of field? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results(?). This was very common under Foster and now it appears to be continuing under Razor and seems concerning!
Going to be interesting how they go when they go up against the best team on the planet in 2 weeks time in their own back yard🙂 And if like in 2022, Rassie wins the first game again convincingly, will he then make a few subs for the 2nd game. Going to be interesting🙂
All Blacks looked lethal in Auckland. However, they had zero "punches to the face" in that match. They will be severely tough to beat, but I think the bok pack and superior kicking game will hamstring the attacking play of the kiwis.
My prediction is that the All Blacks will humble the Springboks and remind them of who the All Blacks are... From A South African... I wish to be wrong... but never write of the All Blacks...
As a bok fan. We have been pipped too many times the last few years missing easy points. Cannot do that against the ALL BLACKS. They raise their game everytime they play us. They could lose 20-0 to a team the week previous but turn up against the boks. Cannot be complacent. The AB Jersey must be respected.
The All Blacks are still vulnerable and still hasn't shown a great ability to conquer the rush defence. South Africa are masters in that area and they can choke the life out of their opponents. The kicking game from the All Blacks will have to be extremely accurate as well as their exit. Conquering the Springbok pack will require moving those big forwards around on the field. The All Blacks can't afford to make a mistake
Use the chip kick to halt the rush defence corner to corner . Once the south african pack starts moving backwards to cover field position the all blacks will tear them apart. Early kicking game will decide.
Come on Ross think! Argentina had a one match win mentality. Mate, you’re not thinking straight! The AB’s are capable of winning both matches! And we should demand it! That’s practically what Ardie Savea said. Anything less is sacrilegious! Red Card you’re oFF! Otherwise keep up the good work Ross & team. I wouldn’t want to see anyone else putting on your jumper Ross. Do you penance, oranges on Saturday, Jerseys Saturday evening. Keep the Faith.
In most top level high impact sport a key is to neutralize the oppo strength. For the Bok's they have a big tough pack, so the AB's have to prepare with superior match fitness and run the Boks ragged. The mental game comes in, because to run the world's best ragged you end up exhausted yourself.
A double loss for AB's. The 1st game Boks win 15-20 points, 2nd game Boks win 7-10 points. The Boks are more fitter, resilient and stronger with 3 game plans and a bench that impacts the game. AB's have no game plan, no focus and only play for 60mins and a bench that makes no impact
ABs are a few years off being at the level the boks are at. We don’t have the reserves to make any impact @ present.seem unable to change quickly enough under pressure, n rush defence. Our pod system is so out dated. Hope we just put on a good show, we see Abs moving towards a better game n system
No Bok supporter believes that any game against the AB's is a given. As much as I would like to see the Boks win both games against the AB's, I can quite easily see it ending 1-1.
Safrica has so much talent, don't think the rugby world fully gets it yet, that game against the abs at Twickenham the model, we can play more and more expansive as we go on, and not only will be have the best forwards in the world, but we will have far and away the most creative and athletic backline in the world . Called it since Twickenham and this bok era going to be around a while when u look at the talent and school boy rugby, plus as ever growing talent pool with more black and coloured kids getting turned on to the game and showing crazy flair and skills
We saw poser canes true colours in the WC final- thought canes total brain fade would be enough to keep him away from the ABs forever. Guess we have slow learning coaches. Note when reserve cane stumbled onto the field ABs stopped scoring. Cane is an asset to the opposition - ABs better off with 14 men- don't even let cane get on the bus.
AB more than capable than beating Boks(coming from a Bok fan) . Unfortunately, Erasmus is rather stubborn when it comes to selection. He has not picked the best possible team .Sure this team can beat the AB but they have some serious weaknesses in personal (Libbock, Moerat, lack of a 3rd choice hooker to name but a few) . There are SA players in Europe that could and should have been picked . (Tyrone Green )Nonsensical selections are weakening the potential of this Bok team. However, if the AB's discipline lets them down again and they get punished for it they will lose heavily as they did prior to the WC. The Boks have yet to "click". When they do it will be something monstrous, I fear. Pity about some stupid selections. Unfortunately politics plays a role in the Bok selection strategy. No other team needs to go through that shit in world rugby.
😂😂😂😅wack point of view if you ask me .. there's a reason why you are a couch coach.. the person doing the actual job, is doing an amazing thing...Dr Rassie is the man in charge and just leave it at that..😅
"As a South African if the ABs think they run like they did against a hangover team from celebrations beating the ABs the previous test, a team who also did not turn up, as well as a split in their coaching management, there is a rude awaking waiting on them in both tests. Think the Boks is going to allow them to determine anythnig? No brother never. Boks 2 - NZ 0
Can the Allblacks win? Yes it’s possible but it’s not the most probable outcome. This is one of the greatest Springbok teams in history. This is not one of the greatest Allblack teams. Not yet anyway. I fully expect to hear JK winging about scrums and malls. Razor still finding his feet.
Who cares what the boks did to Australia. They are ranked BELOW italy! Boks are good enough to win one lose one vs Ireland. Thats about as good as we are. Will know the rest when we play
@@Edgycoo that's why we are ranked the number 1 team I'm the world, even your own pundits are saying, are the current world champs and the 4x world cup record holders, you know the most important trophy in international rugby by far and the Boks dominate it 🙂 So yea the Boks are the better team🙂
Any of the top teams can be beaten on the day given enough commitment - even my team Western Province have beaten the All Blacks, twice. Past games will mean little at Ellis Park, both teams will be desperate to win & both can.
ABs pl stay home, cos its gonna be war in the south..😅 we going rogue on you guys,naah waiting to welcome u guys u hvent been here in awhile.....cape town here we gearing up city already buzzing😊
Argentina are alot more settled and tougher than the wallabies and their performance was the result of them thinking they can defeat us 2 in a row. Big mistake and you think the same 😮
🎉we building putting things together rassie many. Telent is what u need the abs are going to fall short.....that team. Has no new faces little progress dont just wait for s.a thinking we going to try face them now ....come 27??????
2021/10/02 South Africa 29 31 Robina Stadium Gold Coast South Africa 2021/11/13 Ireland 20 29 Aviva Stadium Dublin Ireland 2021/11/20 France 25 40 Stade De France Paris France 2022/07/02 Ireland 42 19 Eden Park Auckland 2022/07/09 Ireland 12 23 Forsyth Barr Stadium Dunedin Ireland 2022/07/16 Ireland 22 32 Sky Stadium Wellington Ireland 2022/08/06 South Africa 10 26 Mbombela Stadium Nelspruit South Africa 2022/08/13 South Africa 35 23 Ellis Park Johannesburg 2022/08/27 Argentina 18 25 Rugby League Park Christchurch Argentina 2022/11/19 England 25 25 Twickenham London Draw 2023/07/15 South Africa 35 20 Go Media Stadium Mt Smart Auckland 2023/08/25 South Africa 7 35 Twickenham London South Africa 2023/09/08 France 13 27 Stade De France Paris France 2023/10/28 South Africa 11 12 Stade De France Paris South Africa 2024/07/06 England 16 15 Forsyth Barr Stadium Dunedin 2024/07/13 England 24 17 Eden Park Auckland 2024/08/10 Argentina 30 38 Sky Stadium Wellington Argentina These are NZ results after covid against the top 5 sides in the world 5 wins 1 draw 11 losses Remind me about the mighty AB again?
@tsudanie don't forget SA only just beat the All Blacks in the wc final by the skin of their teeth and they had a 1 man advantage for most of the game, doubt they would have won if it was 15 vs 15, so don't act like the All Blacks are getting thrashed lol
@@TeWhanauVis like NZ just beat france in 2011? Why did we have a one man advantage? Maybe because of our discipline. S Frazell was lucky to only get yellow. Why did you not go post in first half in a wc final?( great call captain SAM) Why did you miss a conversion and then a penalty . You also forget 20 min of the 55 min of Canes red - sa also played with 14 . Seems like the best side on the day won:) If Carter mccaw and lomu was not born sa would have won all of our test against nz......this statement is sponsered by 'IF"
Irish fan of the pod here 🍀The punditry on this is so much more balanced and informative compared to the biased nonsense on the Breakdown. Cheers lads!
Same💚💛🇿🇦
irish rugby would be shit like guiness beer if it wasn.t for new zealand lol cheers lad
As a South African, AB's vs Springboks is always a clash of the titans, game can go either way. Utmost respect for the AB's and their quality. 👏
All Blacks much better to watch than the boks. cant forget the kolbe/du toit gamesmanship v ireland - really poor that.
@@chasey2327 lmfao, get over yourself. Utmost respect for the ABs, but they are lacking. Has been for the last 6 years. Sit down, bud.
@@chasey2327 how is a 30-38 loss better or a 37-7 loss better. Stop living in the past . It’s like saying the proteas are a cool side to watch because they score lots of sixes but can’t win.
@@tsudanie thats not the point i was making lad
@@chasey2327 That 2nd Irish test wasnt a test it was a brawl and yeah the Irish won but it wasn't a spectacle to be proud of. The Abs vs. Boks is the bench mark always has been.
Thanks for a great video Tim. Glad you enjoyed your visit to our country! Awesome channel
Springboks - a world-class side, very hard to take them down this season. Playing them, and in South Africa, will be a good and important step in the journey towards "our" previous position of best in the World. Go the ABs and good luck, also to the Coach and his staff, I'm putting it out there, that the bounce is going to go our way 🏴
Of coarse they are ready, and will challenge the Springboks all the way. They are a never say "die" team with an always desire to win every game they play.
But then again, there is an on fire team to beat.
Go Bokke, Speel en wen, want julle kan en gaan 👏👏👏❤👏👏👏
Feite.
Joburg 2022 repeat for mine
I have my doubts the all Blacks are ready. It’s early with a new coaching regime. South Africa know their identity. They can play any style. They have a magnificent team. But I will never write off our mighty blacks. They have the talent and can beat any team on their day.
they'll produce another Joburg 2022 when Fozzie's job was on the line. epic all black win under huge pressure.
Can never write off the All Blacks, as an Irish man I know this painfully well. While I agree with the guys here about the good performance from the ABs, the Boks are a different beast entirely. You will not get any time on the ball, they chase everything, they smash everything. If you do get parity with them in the collisions then you have to take every point on offer. You get in their 22, you better get points. Shut down their wings and stop their maul, they haven't showed any other way to score tries, apart from turnover ball, unless Mr Brown's genius starts coming out more you can keep them from getting over the try line. Strike plays off set piece will be big here. Best of luck!!
What is an attack shape 30:10
Is Clarke and Jordan the best wing combo 35:00
Is Blackadder finding the rhythm in the team 37:30
Being big vs Playing Big - When size doesn't always matter 39:24
Tamaiti Williams made a big statement for further selection 41:57
I agree with you, leaving that many points on the park is unacceptable. The Boks need to sort out their accuracy and discipline.
As a saffa, this is so much more intelligent in comparison than JK’s ramblings on the breakdown. Thanks chaps
JK is the Mark Keohane and The money man of NZ - rambling fools
As a South African and a former rugby player, I love all commentary .Agree that the All Blacks are a grate rugby team that are building and come 2027 they will be the favorites' again. For the Two games in South Africa I predict a win for All Blacks and a win for Boks. Tight games with tight score lines just as we would expect it. South Africans like a challenge that's when we do well. So you All Blacks bring your A game please and come enjoy South African hospitality and nice hot weather. and the Brannas!!See you next week.
Good win against Aregentina. Not fully convinced ABs are genuinely back to form as they think they are. The SA tour will let us know where they really are
I always need a notepad every time I watch this podcast because of the amount of golden nuggets from the Bryn and James. These guys know their rugby and they explain it in a way that even a layman can understand.
Parsons, give credit where credit is due, Bro. Back in the days the All Blacks was dominating the game with a two man squad, they also took advantage of the last 20min of the game.
Remember, all international teams have brilliant players and gone are the days of beating any team in the first half, even if you got a good lead, the other team will come back to either close the gap or come to win.
So, the game has evolved, and the team who can and has the players with both hard and talent combined will find a way to make it or break the finish line, although it doesn't need to be pretty, a win will matter for which ever team are taking their chances, and believes in their game plan and playing abilities.
Nice podcast. Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
When it comes to AB vs Boks, it so unpredictable because the intensity just seems to go a few levels up.
Both excellent teams and intelligent coaches.
Form book goes out the window.
I'm excited to see them in SA. 🎉
The All Blacks are always in with a chance regardless of who they play. As a Bok supporter I’d like the Boks winning streak to continue 😂😂👍👍👏👏
What winning streak?
Totally agree with him on the weight concept. Its not about the actual weight, it how they make use of their weight that gives them a BIG effect on the field. One of the reasons i dont take note of the scrum weights too much. Most cases the bok pack is lighter than opponent packs. It how they scrum that gives them super duper powers
“It’s not the size of the dog in a fight it’s the size of the fight in the dog”
That’s the AB’s.
Also think the boks conditioning in the forwards is immense. There are no guys carrying excess weight. They get round the park. Have the strength without the puppy fat. That 2019 forward pack absolutely demolished Dan Cole
As Brynn said I too am excited. NZ looking good, SA looking good, just another epic clash between the best two teams in the world and I can't wait more greast rugby. I'm SA living in England and your's is one of my favourite channels. Thankyou
May the best team win
Think the closest measure we have in terns of what to expect from the AB's is the results against Ireland.
Great pod guys.🇿🇦
Thank you for your insightful explanation of the game's finer points. It's a missed opportunity that a deeper understanding of tactics and strategies isn't more widely promoted. Formula 1's success in engaging fans through technical content demonstrates the value of such initiatives. Rugby's tactical and strategic elements are not as daunting as they might seem, and their exploration could significantly enhance fan engagement.
Never underestimate an AB team..I think the Bokke will know that...The WC final rematch...both sides have a lot to prove..Go Bokke!!
Not really, The Boks have beaten everyone ranked in the top 6, in the last 12 months
@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 Yes and now we have to keep doing it..We need to dominate rugby like the ABs when they won back to back WC's
@@sakabula2357 that’s not the Bok way; we are knock out game specialists and happy to keep accumulating world cups
Boks don’t have anything to prove 🤷♂️
@@timbaker4253 What?You know if we loose this game we might loose our number one spot to friggin Ireland...plus...a lot of Kiwis think we only won the WC because we played against 14...plus...we owe them one at Ellis Park...remember last year's Championship?..a week after smashing them in Mbombela...No buddy..there is a lot to prove..We need to dominate between WCs as well...like the ABs did when they went back to back..
All blacks always has a chance. Its like the clasico for me. Form is important but our nations are so good at the game that what separates us the the desire to win on the day. May we have an epic game 🤝🏼
I think Australia rugby is under huge pressure because of rugby league. It's simpler so more people get into it faster. I think part of opening up the game to larger audiences comes down to the complexity of the scrum. What if you put censors in the forwards' shoulder pads and show pressure points in real time? This would 'gamify' it a little making it more interesting, but we might also start to see patterns in who started pushing first, what happened just before a collapse etc. Please let me know what you guys think 😊
Challenge, as always between the Boks and the AB's, accepted! There is no such thing as a "weak" All Black team, this we South Africans know all to well. May it be massive, and it will be. Welcome, as always, back to South Africa, you magnificent AB's. And God help you, because we won't! Can't wait for the games, it's always between the two of us for the top of the pile, the beers and braai are on us! Long live the greatest sporting rivalry in the history of Humankind. Always massive respect for the AB's, Bok Forever however, and cheers from South Africa! (I reckon Boks to win both, but not by far, and as long as its not by one point again, my girlfriend won't mind sleeping on the couch again.)
Great show, and thanks for the insights.
Question - How much practice goes into drop kicks, as we hardly see that in the AB'S DNA... RWC finals, Game vs England - We never seemed to call or shape for a drop goal. It will be a useful change vs the Springboks. Thoughts 😊
I think if the All Blacks can squeak one test you’d consider it a successful fortnight away. The Saffers have had the wood on us for at least a couple years. Not a huge gap but the Saffers have had a slim margin, they have good discipline, are the fittest they’ve ever been and their bench is probably the best it’s ever been too.
Will be a tough win if they can achieve it.
Springboks massive favourites. All blacks massive underdogs.
Roll on the 2 tests in S.A. cannot wait.
How would you feel if boks win all 6 games wow but how to do it problem is the AB's are the AB's one of the best rugby nations with S.A.
The AB's black strip and haka we will I hope have the Zulus on the field during the haka
Remember Os Du Randt was a prop at 6 foot 3 and 135 kg. Big props work too.
Perth was torrential so I don't blame SA for missing opportunities, especially with a less experienced team.
Some of the mistakes are just not acceptable at this level. They need to be better.
Form goes out the window...as a Bok fan this is a big game.
Agree, Boks are best in the world though. Wonder if we can countrr the bomb squad given our players departures and injuries
As always, it can go either way. Besides, this competition has belonged to the ABs for a thousand years. Boks suck at being favourites anyway. Nah, it is going to be a momentous clash...just the way we like it. Go Springboks, good luck ABs.
Really good pod you guys have here...
The Boks are a formidable opponent, always physical and toughest playing on their own turf. They are, however, also startlingly inconsistent, instinctively conservative in their tactics, and entirely beatable. The question is, or should be, do the All Blacks possess the squad to tackle the Boks in key areas: set piece and defense will be key, as will respect for possession and intelligent game management. Concerningly, all of these areas were noticeably shaky in the two tests against England and the first test against Argentina.
Let's not forget the uncontested scrums in the second half, with the fresh front row on.
rain was the great equilizer in this game
Never underestimate an AB side. The first game against Argentina was a fluke.
Dmac is finding his feet and can rely on powerful forwards coupled with the backline experience of TJ and BB.
Savea can break open a game all by himself.
Gonna be a massive game! Just hope there'll be no cards.
But this Bok team is something else. You face a 100% strength team for the full 80, nothing is diluted by the bench. Expect war!
I don't think the first game against Argentina was a fluke though.... What about that huge loss against the Springboks before the World Cup? If that is also a fluke then the All Blacks are having many 'Fluke' losses.
Fluke? You're either delusional or have no idea😂😂
It was not the first time you lost against Argentina, it was the third time. Calling Argentina's win a fluke is disrespectful. They were not lucky, they were the better team on the day.
I'm happy for NZ picking DMAC - he will cost NZ loads of games. he is up and down. Let's hold thumbs they pick him for the test here in SA. Played 2 test against agentina -lost one won one - hardly finding his feet
The Boks still left some points on the table in the first match too, especially that Willie Le Roux howler. However none of that will matter at Ellis Park: it's a coin toss in my opinion, no favourite
My question for this week: with all this talk of the Springboks having got a leg up on us by joining the Northern H club competitions - what if there was a way we could do the same? Like, we're too far away to do what SA have done fully. But what about creating a "NZ Warriors"-like club side that was based in France fulltime, but affiliated with NZR like the Super clubs are? Then any NZ players that wanted to get exposed to NH rugby could opt to play for that club, but still be picked for the ABs. Would allow us to get exposure to top NH competitions, build the NZ rugby brand, and be at least a partial solution for the overseas player dilemma. Also another side to build depth for the NZ player pool. Could even be bankrolled by a wealthy Frenchman who loves the ABs, who knows...
Suggestions - boks - study recent Irish tests....can you post the ball to Ireland ❤❤❤❤
New Zealand is our greatest rivals . I have never seen a poor New Zealand team. Springboks have to bring their A game.
2 weeks time!! damn =(
Look as a South African. Both sides did 40 minutes of what they can do. Full 80 will be required here. The championship is up for grabs in the next two weeks so both sides will be up for it. Where Argentina failed and SA may need to be up for is if we win the first test we need to be better the next week. New Zealand are like the Doomsday of rugby if they lose on a certain aspect they come back 7 days later immune.
The mighty all backs is doubting itself...
For perspective, the Boks have won 26 Tests at home, the All Blacks 25 and one has been drawn, and the average score is 20-19 to the All Blacks. It's not for the faint hearted.
Yes the ABs are ready for the Boks but i got a big hassle for the new scrumhalf and flyhalf they got.If the ABs can get Smith and Richie back in the team than it will be a horse with a different colour.Surely a win over the Boks.
As an AB fan I am a little concerned. Traditionally, we would find another gear in the last 20min of the game, and bury teams. These days, however, we seem to struggle to put points on teams in the 2nd half. Game 1 against Arg, we put 20 points on them in the 1st half, and only 10 in the 2nd half. In game 2, we put 35 points on them 1st half, and only 7 in the 2nd half. The Boks have world cup winning defense, and they don't give away points.
As a south African agree with the statement but then again I feel we dont convert points well in the first half. We've been fit enough to come back later in the game. Don't think you can miss points against the ABs, they will break you
Maybe the All Blacks have been emptying the tank too early? Or maybe the bench hasn’t been providing the impact needed?
The ABs have just two games this year they really really really want to win. Those are the two tests in SA. It will make the loss in the final last year a lot more palatable (albeit not fully edible). The ABs have come to South Africa with one goal in mind. Beat SA in both tests...Fullstop! Its going to be massive, and I suspect the Springboks feel the same, beat NZ in both tests and you can experiment for the rest of the year.
Relative power of forwards is proportional to the relative score
In 1996 The ABs dealt with the world champion Springboks easily winning 4 out of 5 tests played that year.
1996 the AB had never lost 35-7 to the boks - never lost 3 test to argentina (2 at home ) - lost a test series to ireland (at home) Playing Super rugby against yourself has cost you buddy
@@tsudanie it cost us having a muppet as a coach.🐻
@@tsudanie1996 we only played ourselves too in NPC. 96 All Black team is legendary. Prob 2nd to 2015 AB side
As a relatively newer rugby fan I find myself struggling to understand the AB’s contestable kicking strategy - in so many matches the kicks are put up, but NOBODY chases and they ultimately turn over the ball and give up massive amounts of field? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results(?). This was very common under Foster and now it appears to be continuing under Razor and seems concerning!
Going to be interesting how they go when they go up against the best team on the planet in 2 weeks time in their own back yard🙂 And if like in 2022, Rassie wins the first game again convincingly, will he then make a few subs for the 2nd game. Going to be interesting🙂
ABs will not want to play a B team in Cape Town so that first game is going to be very tough.
@@South_Affy Rassie might player a team mixed of first and 2nd team players in cape town If he wins ellis park. He did that in 2022 🙂
All Blacks looked lethal in Auckland. However, they had zero "punches to the face" in that match. They will be severely tough to beat, but I think the bok pack and superior kicking game will hamstring the attacking play of the kiwis.
My prediction is that the All Blacks will humble the Springboks and remind them of who the All Blacks are... From A South African... I wish to be wrong... but never write of the All Blacks...
You are.... wrong.
Sh** prediction abt humbling the boks😂😂
@@victordastile5204 ok.. let's return to your comment
@@Alias-gy3tz lets return to this comment
@@zoutie-zoutie You will have to remind me. Getting back to you in two weeks time is just not on my list of priorities.
AB need to select harder forwards to compete. Current Aussie and AB packs are way to soft to play in SA
Yes, the Bokke pack is amazing.
As a bok fan. We have been pipped too many times the last few years missing easy points. Cannot do that against the ALL BLACKS. They raise their game everytime they play us. They could lose 20-0 to a team the week previous but turn up against the boks. Cannot be complacent. The AB Jersey must be respected.
The All Blacks are still vulnerable and still hasn't shown a great ability to conquer the rush defence. South Africa are masters in that area and they can choke the life out of their opponents. The kicking game from the All Blacks will have to be extremely accurate as well as their exit. Conquering the Springbok pack will require moving those big forwards around on the field. The All Blacks can't afford to make a mistake
Ideally we would do diligence if we faced the wallabies 1st a missed opportunity needed before taking on SA
It’s hard to get a gauge of where the Boks are at given how poor Aus were. Literally a training run
Yeah the weather didnt help either. But the wallabies were in fact quite bad on the day.
Use the chip kick to halt the rush defence corner to corner . Once the south african pack starts moving backwards to cover field position the all blacks will tear them apart. Early kicking game will decide.
It's funny when NZ fwds weigh more - I love people trying this tactic - it's not worked once.
Come on Ross think! Argentina had a one match win mentality. Mate, you’re not thinking straight! The AB’s are capable of winning both matches! And we should demand it! That’s practically what Ardie Savea said. Anything less is sacrilegious! Red Card you’re oFF! Otherwise keep up the good work Ross & team. I wouldn’t want to see anyone else putting on your jumper Ross. Do you penance, oranges on Saturday, Jerseys Saturday evening. Keep the Faith.
All Blacks will certainly need to pick up their game against the Boks, 80 minute effort not 40
In most top level high impact sport a key is to neutralize the oppo strength. For the Bok's they have a big tough pack, so the AB's have to prepare with superior match fitness and run the Boks ragged. The mental game comes in, because to run the world's best ragged you end up exhausted yourself.
Have you seen the All Blacks scrum? They should be equal to the boks if not better
A double loss for AB's. The 1st game Boks win 15-20 points, 2nd game Boks win 7-10 points. The Boks are more fitter, resilient and stronger with 3 game plans and a bench that impacts
the game. AB's have no game plan, no focus and only play for 60mins and a bench that makes no impact
As a South African we going 2-0 with one of those test match being by a bonus point win which is likely going to be at Ellis Park..
ABs are a few years off being at the level the boks are at. We don’t have the reserves to make any impact @ present.seem unable to change quickly enough under pressure, n rush defence. Our pod system is so out dated. Hope we just put on a good show, we see Abs moving towards a better game n system
No Bok supporter believes that any game against the AB's is a given. As much as I would like to see the Boks win both games against the AB's, I can quite easily see it ending 1-1.
What's sam cane doing in this photo where is ardie the real captain through out these 5 games
Id say lock depth, halfback and fullback not amazing but good enough
AB will surprise..
This would be nowhere near '96. clickbait stuff there. you guys are better than this.(not south african)
Safrica has so much talent, don't think the rugby world fully gets it yet, that game against the abs at Twickenham the model, we can play more and more expansive as we go on, and not only will be have the best forwards in the world, but we will have far and away the most creative and athletic backline in the world . Called it since Twickenham and this bok era going to be around a while when u look at the talent and school boy rugby, plus as ever growing talent pool with more black and coloured kids getting turned on to the game and showing crazy flair and skills
We saw poser canes true colours in the WC final- thought canes total brain fade would be enough to keep him away from the ABs forever. Guess we have slow learning coaches. Note when reserve cane stumbled onto the field ABs stopped scoring. Cane is an asset to the opposition - ABs better off with 14 men- don't even let cane get on the bus.
AB more than capable than beating Boks(coming from a Bok fan) . Unfortunately, Erasmus is rather stubborn when it comes to selection. He has not picked the best possible team .Sure this team can beat the AB but they have some serious weaknesses in personal (Libbock, Moerat, lack of a 3rd choice hooker to name but a few) . There are SA players in Europe that could and should have been picked . (Tyrone Green )Nonsensical selections are weakening the potential of this Bok team. However, if the AB's discipline lets them down again and they get punished for it they will lose heavily as they did prior to the WC. The Boks have yet to "click". When they do it will be something monstrous, I fear. Pity about some stupid selections. Unfortunately politics plays a role in the Bok selection strategy. No other team needs to go through that shit in world rugby.
😂😂😂😅wack point of view if you ask me .. there's a reason why you are a couch coach.. the person doing the actual job, is doing an amazing thing...Dr Rassie is the man in charge and just leave it at that..😅
@@kwedini1181I have been rugby coach for 15 yrs mate.
"As a South African if the ABs think they run like they did against a hangover team from celebrations beating the ABs the previous test, a team who also did not turn up, as well as a split in their coaching management, there is a rude awaking waiting on them in both tests. Think the Boks is going to allow them to determine anythnig? No brother never. Boks 2 - NZ 0
Can the Allblacks win? Yes it’s possible but it’s not the most probable outcome.
This is one of the greatest Springbok teams in history. This is not one of the greatest Allblack teams. Not yet anyway.
I fully expect to hear JK winging about scrums and malls.
Razor still finding his feet.
Steady - where is your respect???? It is SIR K
From a saffa - Beauden/MacKenzie at 10 will definitely break the boks unless they put Manie at 10
The answer is easy: No.
I really dont think so but they can try they know they are in for itthey are not building a team the world cup u can see .....
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NZ should've hired Eddie Jones or Andy Farrell. South Africa are gonna punishment NZ.
All Blacks coud not beat Argentina in 2nd half, auper worrying for the boys in black. Boks will lick their lips
All blacks and others raise their game when playin their Boks. Cant use Pumas as a yardstick
Who cares what the boks did to Australia. They are ranked BELOW italy! Boks are good enough to win one lose one vs Ireland. Thats about as good as we are. Will know the rest when we play
Boks are the better team currently though. That's just a fact 🙂
@@thegoat4124 yeah sure. Thats why you win head to head.
@@Edgycoo that's why we are ranked the number 1 team I'm the world, even your own pundits are saying, are the current world champs and the 4x world cup record holders, you know the most important trophy in international rugby by far and the Boks dominate it 🙂 So yea the Boks are the better team🙂
@@thegoat4124 I don't think the All Blacks are worthy to play the Bokke. They are so amazing.
@@barneyboy2008 or the other way around, given the Boks are the better team🙂
Definitely not going to beat the Springboks. Jordan and Clarke on the wings? ABs talent pool is atrocious
will Jordan does not perform well againts SA ..certainly not kolbe
That's a silly headline are the All Blacks ready??? We've beaten Spring Boks more time in history right!!
The last couple of times they met, the All Blanks lost.
Springboks vs All Bleaks will be interesting. Any score predictions?
@@Alias-gy3tzand one of those losses the ABs had their pants pulled down by the Boks. Boks definitely the better team🙂
Any of the top teams can be beaten on the day given enough commitment - even my team Western Province have beaten the All Blacks, twice. Past games will mean little at Ellis Park, both teams will be desperate to win & both can.
Pak slae coming
Stupid question.
SO CLOSE MY ASSSSSS .... DUMPED TWO TRIES IN 1ST HALF....CLOSE OK
Boks will take the series 2-0
No chance
ABs pl stay home, cos its gonna be war in the south..😅 we going rogue on you guys,naah waiting to welcome u guys u hvent been here in awhile.....cape town here we gearing up city already buzzing😊
The Bokkies are going to hammer NZ. Ye win a game against an awful, awful Argentinian display. A big L for yer next couple of games.
Argentina are alot more settled and tougher than the wallabies and their performance was the result of them thinking they can defeat us 2 in a row. Big mistake and you think the same 😮
🎉we building putting things together rassie many. Telent is what u need the abs are going to fall short.....that team. Has no new faces little progress dont just wait for s.a thinking we going to try face them now ....come 27??????
Boks will NOT be complacent. They will be ready.
Always think you can judge the maggot’s capacity by their shoulder pads😂😂😂
2021/10/02 South Africa 29 31 Robina Stadium Gold Coast South Africa
2021/11/13 Ireland 20 29 Aviva Stadium Dublin Ireland
2021/11/20 France 25 40 Stade De France Paris France
2022/07/02 Ireland 42 19 Eden Park Auckland
2022/07/09 Ireland 12 23 Forsyth Barr Stadium Dunedin Ireland
2022/07/16 Ireland 22 32 Sky Stadium Wellington Ireland
2022/08/06 South Africa 10 26 Mbombela Stadium Nelspruit South Africa
2022/08/13 South Africa 35 23 Ellis Park Johannesburg
2022/08/27 Argentina 18 25 Rugby League Park Christchurch Argentina
2022/11/19 England 25 25 Twickenham London Draw
2023/07/15 South Africa 35 20 Go Media Stadium Mt Smart Auckland
2023/08/25 South Africa 7 35 Twickenham London South Africa
2023/09/08 France 13 27 Stade De France Paris France
2023/10/28 South Africa 11 12 Stade De France Paris South Africa
2024/07/06 England 16 15 Forsyth Barr Stadium Dunedin
2024/07/13 England 24 17 Eden Park Auckland
2024/08/10 Argentina 30 38 Sky Stadium Wellington Argentina
These are NZ results after covid against the top 5 sides in the world
5 wins 1 draw 11 losses
Remind me about the mighty AB again?
@tsudanie no country has beaten All Blacks more than the All Blacks have beaten them. They have a winning record against EVERY country.
@tsudanie don't forget SA only just beat the All Blacks in the wc final by the skin of their teeth and they had a 1 man advantage for most of the game, doubt they would have won if it was 15 vs 15, so don't act like the All Blacks are getting thrashed lol
@@TeWhanauVis like NZ just beat france in 2011?
Why did we have a one man advantage? Maybe because of our discipline.
S Frazell was lucky to only get yellow.
Why did you not go post in first half in a wc final?( great call captain SAM)
Why did you miss a conversion and then a penalty . You also forget 20 min of the 55 min of Canes red - sa also played with 14 .
Seems like the best side on the day won:)
If Carter mccaw and lomu was not born sa would have won all of our test against nz......this statement is sponsered by 'IF"
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