22:00 The name is Howard Brosman. He was an airman stationed near Tonopah, and married a gal from that town, and had 1 son there. He predeceased her. She married again. Her obit is on the web and can be found by searching his name along with "Tonopah". (My previous post with the obit link was removed, so I'll not put the link in this time.)
The link got removed? How annoying... I wonder when RUclips started blocking links? Viewers have posted some great stuff with links. Well, thank you for tracking that down and sharing it.
"Phyllis Nadine (Furgerson) (Brosman) Loughry went to be with our Lord and Savior January 1, 2015 at her home in Greencastle, PA. Born July 1, 1930 in Twin Falls, ID, she was the youngest of 4 children of Travis Wayne (Tex) Furgerson and Edith Myrtle (Wooldridge) who preceded her in death. The family moved to Tonopah, NV in 1936 and it is where Phyllis began her school years, graduating in 1949. She was quite active in school affairs, joining the school band in the 4th grade as a snare drummer through graduation. She was the first freshman to be elected as carnival queen in the early 1940's. After graduation she went to work at the Nye County Courthouse working at several offices as a clerk typist. In 1949 she met and married Airman Howard (Shorty) Brosman who was stationed at the local air base, maintaining a home in Tonopah where son Wayne Howard Brosman was born. Phyllis worked for the NV. Naval Depot. She was a clerk typist for the State of Nevada in Carson City in the State Personnel Department, Statute Division, and Sales and Tax Division, later transferring to Tonopah Highway Department. In the early 60's went to work for REECO Sandia Corp. at the Tonopah Test Range. In 1965 Phyllis married Airman Bernard (Mouse) Loughry. Upon his return from Vietnam, the family moved to Little Rock AFB in Jacksonville, Arkansas were Phyllis worked for the State of Arkansas Personnel Dept. In 1968 they received orders to go to Bitburg AFB in Germany where Phyllis worked in civil service. The family returned to the US in '72 stationed at Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque, NM. After being stationed at Andrews AFB in Washington D.C, they were then transferred to Fairchild Industries in Hagerstown, MD. Phyllis worked for the Air Force at Andrews AFB in Washington D.C. and retired in 1993 from the Department of Army at Fort Richie, MD. Phyllis had been a member of the Turquoise, Nevada Chapter Order of Eastern Star since 1955. She also was a dual member with the Hagerstown Chapter #89 of Hagerstown, MD. She belonged to NARF (National Association of Retired Federal Employees). She was an avid reader, crocheter, knitter, and supporter of the Humane Society. Phyllis is survived by husband Bernard (Mouse) Loughry, son Wayne and daughter-in-law Bridgitte Brosman, and granddaughter Shauna Brosman of Tualatin, Oregon; nieces Diane Patterson, Sandi Whipperman, and Harry Whipperman of Tonopah, NV. , Edy Whipperman of Goldfield, NV. , and Jeanne Minnie of Reno, NV. Also, there are several family members in West Virginia, Idaho, and Oklahoma. Phyllis is the last one of her remaining family. Proceeded in death are her parents, brother Harry W. Furgerson, sisters Olive Lucyle Patterson, May Marie Whipperman, and first husband Howard Brosman. There will be no viewing. A memorial service will be held at Zimmerman & Son Funeral Home in Greencastle on Tuesday January 6 at 2:00 pm. There will be an Eastern Star Chapter memorial to follow the service. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Humane Society of Washington County, 13011 Maugansville Rd., Hagerstown Maryland 21740 or the Lutheran Home Care & Hospice, 2700 Luther Drive, Chambersburg, PA. 17202."
In a way, a significant part of the Allied effort in WW2 happened down in the mines, extracting the precious elements without which you can't sustain a war effort - as Germany came to learn. Tungsten from that mine may have gone all the way across the ocean and into Axis armor.
@@tommywolfe2706 Composite anti-armor shells in WW2 were almost always made of tungsten. Tiger I/II and Panther tanks might have been much more of an issue if it weren't for these, and the shortage of tungsten on their end hurt their own anti-armor capabilities.
@@_tyrannus its a great conductor too. It may be alloyed with other metals, but in some form we apply it as "metal 2" or "top sputter" (last layer of metal) on the semiconductors we produce where I work.
@@rd3095 Yep! Our comments more than likely went through quite the length of tungsten to reach our screens. And tungsten is also the prime candidate to line up fusion reactor plasma vessels with. We're certainly not done finding new uses to W.
Huge credit for still doing this with a bust hand. Currently laid up with a broken femur here, been watching loads of your videos again, thank you for all of them.
Ahh the pass in a snowstorm...nothing like being up there in what we fondly call "amateur hour" those moments when you realize you are surrounded by people who don't have a clue how to drive in the snow. I wish there was a way to avoid those folks, but other than not leaving the house, there isn't one. As you might imagine, I have spent many, many nights up there. I do feel for the truckers tho. The...the other people...not so much. The stories I have would astound you Justin. We really do need to get a cup of coffee one of these days. That area looks familiar. Of all the things you have ever shown us that have made my curiosity go off that bear has pegged the meter. The chain of events that put him there, unreal. All the same questions you posed are now stuck in my head. I can see a bear wandering into a mine...the odds were not with him...wonder into a mine and be at exactly the wrong place at exactly the wrong time, and bingo, he is there for eternity. I can understand the bear going in for shelter, or smelling a fresh dead rat snack, I can understand him getting lost, but winding up where he is just is over the top. Like you said, critters that live in the dark like dark places and are geared for them. A bear in an ore chute?
Amazing video as always. I can't even begin to imagine how that bear might have ended up down that ore chute. While your camerawork is some of the most stable I've seen (It's seriously good) sometimes I wish you would use a wider lens. I feel it would make it a bit easier to keep a sense of direction in some of the more cramped situations you run into.
At 2:21 the bldg and the surrounding scenery looks like the mine scene in the movie "Hondo" with Paul Newman!! the tracks coming around the side , the crest of the mountain, and the mine itself!
Nice video. This area has been on my list of ones to visit but still haven't made it up there yet. I live down in Central Valley. Bout an hour and fifteen from you Justin. Thanks for the great videos as always!
@@TVRExploring I have been in some adits and stuff but nothing crazy like some of Placer mines you been in or areas you been in Gold Country. Most my exploring is dry desert mines.
@@TVRExploring I have a built rockcrawler so lot of the times in the desert I can almost drive all the way up to the portal(depending what type of land ownership it is)
A very nice explore, guess that bear went head first down perhaps you can find the spot when you get on the level above, perhaps a false floor with a whole in it lol hope your hand gets better soon (if you dont climb ladders lol )
Possible the Bear came in for shelter or water? then it became confused? It looked like a younger bear from the size of the skull. Yearling Bears do a lot of traveling looking for food and shelter. Then fell and died of injuries while triggering the collapse/ or as mentioned the rock fell later.
When you see rock that looks like Granite, where you don't think there should be any, scratch it with a piece of steel, even a nail. If it scratches white it is Granite, if it scratches brown it is Chromite ore. Generally Chromite is closer grained than Granite but looks similar.
That bear would have caused the mine to smell like death for a few months while it decomposed. Wonder if anyone would enter a mine if it smelled like something big died. If you've ever smelled a rotting carcass, you'll never forget the smell...
@@happydays4778 Nice. Our place in Rome is right on the outskirts where we have city behind us and countryside in front of us. It's an ideal setting and I think that's cool that you found it in London. We were always closer to the center when in London, which has its perks, but I prefer being closer to the countryside now.
Definitly my favorite mine on the channel. It definitly has somethin cartoonish, with that portal straight from a Lucky Luke Comic and those Gephities and the bear skull. You wouln'd exactly be surprised to have an animatronic peak around the corner.
Columbia Steel Co is the company that made that steel rope reel Edit: I would love a miners edition of shoots and ladders! And I'm tempted to take some of your footage and make a little diorama/fountain that's a multi-level mine cross section!
Mr Howard Brosman Jr, who left his autograph near one of the ore chutes, lived in Tonopah, Nevada, when he left his mark in that mine. He was born in 1929 in Illinois, according to the 1950 census, the son of Howard Brosman Sr and Martha Selby of Traverse City, Michigan. While he was in Tonopah, he was working as a.........miner, in what the census states as 'Teraming Mine', whatever that may mean. Name of the mine, perhaps? Howard was 21 when he left his autograph there in the mine. While living in Tonopah, he married Phyllis Nadine Furgerson. Both were apparently very well known, and well liked in Tonopah. They married on October 8, 1949 in Tonopah, at the home of the bride's parents. Howard was also in the army, and served at the Tonopah Air Base. At the time, he was also employed by the Northern Transportation Company, also in Tonopah. There is a photograph of the new Mrs. Brosman in the 17 October 1949, Reno Gazette - Journal, and she appears to be a quite beautiful, young lady. Perhaps I can find a photo of Howard Brosman Jr, too. I thought you might enjoy this, Justin. Others may find this interesting as well. I love History and especially Genealogy, so researching this guy and his new wife is quite fun and enjoyable for me. It is always interesting to learn about those who came before us. Thank you for taking us all on this tour!
Great research! Thank you very much for tracking that down... No, the name of this mine was not the "Teraming Mine". I've never heard that name before.
I wonder if you found any mines in el dorado county especially in the Camino and pollock pines areas. If so it would be nice to see a video of them.as for the bear skull from the footage it looks like it triggered a collapse or was escaping one and that’s what killed it .
Very cool mystery to find! As you say, hopefully it didn't suffer too much :-( Grizzly end! Sorry to hear about your hand - hopefully you're well on the way to recovery, now!
Never seen a bear in a mine, but been chased out by a mountain lion. If you hear something strange that sounds like air being forced through a tight space, it's just a nervous kitty trying to warn you. When it turns to a screaming strange roar, get out :). Trust me.
Thank you for letting me know what to listen for... I haven't encountered a kitty yet, but a miner friend of mine did and it didn't sound like fun. It's amazing to me that they'll venture so far back into such inhospitable locations. They can see well at night, but there has to be SOME ambient light. Underground, there is absolutely none and so they would be as blind as we would without any lights.
@@goldcountryexplorers8332 Yes, definitely. This level was a bit nasty because of the water and mud, but the upper levels are dry and have some pretty interesting features.
Thank you. Yes, tungsten was considered a vital mineral for the war effort and so there was an explosion of tungsten mining during that time. The bear was, I believe, the highlight of this bottom level, but the upper levels are pretty interesting for the mine itself and there is more World War II graffiti up there.
What a trip ! When we checked out those mines in coloma we had something scream at us ! I talked to my buddy and he thinks we can get access to them , Ill let you know .
@@muleskinnermining8661 I'm sorry to hear that! I'm nursing a broken hand right now (I got tangled up in a fire hose that I was deploying) and so I can relate to your frustration with being out... Covid is no fun either. I'm glad that both of those are behind you and, hopefully, you've paid your dues for the year so that things only get better from here.
@@TVRExploring , Thanks. Boy I sure hope all that is behind me. Sorry to hear about your hand. Can’t do much exploring or camera work with a broken hand. Get better, always looking forward to seeing your next video!
“In 1949, she met and married Airman Howard (Shorty) Brosman who was stationed at the local air base, maintaining a home in Tonopah where son, Wayne Howard Brosman, was born.”- Taken from an obituary found on google. I’ll post the link in a reply. Likely that’s who wrote that name on the timber at 21:59. Pretty cool.
I think the bear was alive in the chute and tried digging its way out, downward. Got enough room for its head when the end came. The odds that the bear and the rocks all fell at once and landed just the way you see it are pretty remote....
Could be worse. I've known people who were unable to exit, had no means to confirm an exterior rescue operation was underway, and huddled for warmth. Wondering uneasily how in darkness it could become a survival of the fittest.
Okay, when I read the title of your video, I assumed that you ran into a live bear! I explore in ontario , canada , so bears are usually on my mind. Have you ever run into a live bear in an abandoned mine? I have always assumed that if a bear chose to hibernate in a mine , then it would stay fairly close to the entrance since it wouldn't be able to navigate in total darkness further in. I hope i'm right.
Starch is used in iron mining as a depressant. Apparently its low cost and low environmental impact make it useful in the flotation process. I'm not a miner so you would have to follow up on this to see what it actually means. I guess it has something to do with ore separation? I know that doesn't explain the paper bag in the tunnel but it lead to something I didn't know about lol!
Just a few months back there was a green hard hat on a post in front of the lower flooded adit. An f150 had a lot of fun learning angles on the drop/climb into the wash. He even drove the elephant spine canyon leading up to the mine on top of the range there. I've been there a few times and have a few slabs of those red stones up top in the onion layers of pyroxene and calcite. So many people miss the little almost caved adit with the ladder at the end, there's not even a sign on it.
That hard hat is still there. It's down on the ground behind a post... My buddies missed that little adit the first time they visited, but I am proud to say that I spotted it. I'm glad I saw it because that leads to one of the best levels. LOL, my buddy has an F150 as well, but we couldn't convince him to go for it! How is the mine - and the road up to the mine - on top of the range? I was curious about that one, but we ran out of time.
@@TVRExploring we did it at night, and it looked terrible going up but coming down wasnt much. There's a shack up there and some surface work, I never made it in the adit there. Of course the really popular spot is on the other side of the range and south, lotta workings and similar looking drifts/ball rooms there I've only see recent pictures of, figured I'd be in the area again one day and haven't made it over there, other places in nw nv that have been taking up my weekends. I've read reports of this copper district not too far from town with thousands of feet of workings. So far all I've found is a monster adit with no chutes, some tunnels that service open ballrooms, and a ton of wood work. Gotta hurry up for this one, project is on the table for the whole mountain.
@@xyourfurneralx1222 If you shoot me an email at TVRExploring@gmail.com, we can discuss/trade information more freely without needing to speak in code. Let me know that it is you in the email though because I have people emailing me all of the time asking about locations and I normally don't respond to those.
@@TVRExploring yeah they are superb. Sir neeed help of u that is Endoscopic camera best or no for videos inside the mine.because often we need our hands to hold ourself not to fell down.
Beautiful I've been to Donner Pass the lake the campground in the summer and winter many times in my life thank you for showing this it brings back wonderful memories
I’m addicted to your vids! And it’s time for my self allowed one question a month! No more slurries of crazy questions! Lol Ok so smell.. I’m thinking it’s basically moist dirt with a moldy after smell? And do “wet” mines have a different smell then “dry” mines? Bonus question, p, two parts, what is the WORST smelling mine you’ve been in and on the flip side what’s the best smelling mine? Ok I’m done! Thank you so much for these vids, the photography and work you put into these
You've been along from the early days and I am grateful for that... Haha, so, you're allowed multiple questions a month! Wet mines smell completely different than dry mines and Nevada mines smell different than California mines, which smell different than mines in Italy. In Nevada, the dry mines have a smell of dust, sage and a hint of rodent urine. In the flooded mines with a lot of dirt, they smell like mud and in the flooded mines that are pretty much all hard rock, they don't really have a smell at all. Stagnant water can produce some rotting, unpleasant smells and a mine with some exotic mineral can have a sharp, bitter smell. The best smelling mine is either a mine in Italy where the air was blowing in the smell of flowers outside or a mine in Tombstone where the air was blowing in the smell of food cooking from the town.
I was in a Mine in Colorado and saw a Mountain Lion Climb up a Ore Chute after we Saw each other. I turned around and got the Hell out of there. I hope you took the Skull!!
Thank you. I toughed through the upper levels even with the limited use of my hand. I think I covered everything pretty well. Let me know if you see something promising I missed when you see the other videos, but I think I got pretty much everything I would have explored if I was 100%.
@@TVRExploring Tungsten is found in Wolframite and Shelight ,which fluoresces under ultraviolet light . I think that was the white vanes , and is found near Granit . Witch explains the Granit in the mine. Thanks for making my brain work . LOL
If we're talking about the same thing, it was to support ventilation pipe that used to run through there. Yes, poor bear... I hope its death was a swift one and that it did not suffer.
What is the deal with the friggin bear? I lived in Laughlin Nv. for years and we hit up every silver mine within fifty miles and never hear anything about any kind of bear. There isn't any kind of food or anything for them to eat plus the temps get so hot. Coyotes can get pretty big and they are present in mines not to mention the different kinds of cats.
I looked it up because I was having a hard time getting my mind around it as well, but there are apparently quite a lot of black bears residing in Nevada.
A very colorful mine would have made for some great stills! I guess how the the bear got there will just remain a mystery and I to hope it didn't suffer. At least it wasn't a live bear!!!
Why so much more modern woodwork in there? Much of the ore chutes have much more modern wood, can even see the jig sawing on them. The steel on the one chute is saw cut and mig welded.
Wow!! Crazy stuff man, how the hell did he get in there. Down in Yuma to see my daughter and went out to castle dome city. Took the tour. Drove up to see the big eye mine and didn't make it there. Front tire blew on our jeep rental, put the spare on and made it about 2 more before it blew. Lol.. Beauty of the trip was the nice people that came to our rescue.. Gotta make it an adventure right? Lol
Two blowouts? Nice... I'm glad you met some friendly people. I have been amazed at the generosity of strangers around the world when I've been stranded by vehicle problems.
The colors in that mine are beautiful, probably much better in person. That sulfur may mean that the area had geothermal vents in the ancient past, but I'm not sure. Still cool though.
Hey man , crappy news , my bro and I parked at a friends and went in there , the east entrance is gone , bulldosed ! The west entrance must have cams on it , we were old to leave over a speaker ! F-ing progress kills more history , had to check ,looks like a nogo
Ambitious Smokey left the Forrest Service for MSHA. Quickly finds himself.... in over his head. Only you, can prevent mine collapse. I hope it didn't suffer. Maybe it was just waking from hibernation and weak.
22:00 The name is Howard Brosman. He was an airman stationed near Tonopah, and married a gal from that town, and had 1 son there. He predeceased her. She married again. Her obit is on the web and can be found by searching his name along with "Tonopah". (My previous post with the obit link was removed, so I'll not put the link in this time.)
The link got removed? How annoying... I wonder when RUclips started blocking links? Viewers have posted some great stuff with links. Well, thank you for tracking that down and sharing it.
"Phyllis Nadine (Furgerson) (Brosman) Loughry went to be with our Lord and Savior January 1, 2015 at her home in Greencastle, PA. Born July 1, 1930 in Twin Falls, ID, she was the youngest of 4 children of Travis Wayne (Tex) Furgerson and Edith Myrtle (Wooldridge) who preceded her in death.
The family moved to Tonopah, NV in 1936 and it is where Phyllis began her school years, graduating in 1949. She was quite active in school affairs, joining the school band in the 4th grade as a snare drummer through graduation. She was the first freshman to be elected as carnival queen in the early 1940's. After graduation she went to work at the Nye County Courthouse working at several offices as a clerk typist.
In 1949 she met and married Airman Howard (Shorty) Brosman who was stationed at the local air base, maintaining a home in Tonopah where son Wayne Howard Brosman was born.
Phyllis worked for the NV. Naval Depot. She was a clerk typist for the State of Nevada in Carson City in the State Personnel Department, Statute Division, and Sales and Tax Division, later transferring to Tonopah Highway Department. In the early 60's went to work for REECO Sandia Corp. at the Tonopah Test Range.
In 1965 Phyllis married Airman Bernard (Mouse) Loughry. Upon his return from Vietnam, the family moved to Little Rock AFB in Jacksonville, Arkansas were Phyllis worked for the State of Arkansas Personnel Dept. In 1968 they received orders to go to Bitburg AFB in Germany where Phyllis worked in civil service. The family returned to the US in '72 stationed at Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque, NM. After being stationed at Andrews AFB in Washington D.C, they were then transferred to Fairchild Industries in Hagerstown, MD. Phyllis worked for the Air Force at Andrews AFB in Washington D.C. and retired in 1993 from the Department of Army at Fort Richie, MD.
Phyllis had been a member of the Turquoise, Nevada Chapter Order of Eastern Star since 1955. She also was a dual member with the Hagerstown Chapter #89 of Hagerstown, MD. She belonged to NARF (National Association of Retired Federal Employees). She was an avid reader, crocheter, knitter, and supporter of the Humane Society.
Phyllis is survived by husband Bernard (Mouse) Loughry, son Wayne and daughter-in-law Bridgitte Brosman, and granddaughter Shauna Brosman of Tualatin, Oregon; nieces Diane Patterson, Sandi Whipperman, and Harry Whipperman of Tonopah, NV. , Edy Whipperman of Goldfield, NV. , and Jeanne Minnie of Reno, NV. Also, there are several family members in West Virginia, Idaho, and Oklahoma.
Phyllis is the last one of her remaining family. Proceeded in death are her parents, brother Harry W. Furgerson, sisters Olive Lucyle Patterson, May Marie Whipperman, and first husband Howard Brosman.
There will be no viewing. A memorial service will be held at Zimmerman & Son Funeral Home in Greencastle on Tuesday January 6 at 2:00 pm. There will be an Eastern Star Chapter memorial to follow the service. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Humane Society of Washington County, 13011 Maugansville Rd., Hagerstown Maryland 21740 or the Lutheran Home Care & Hospice, 2700 Luther Drive, Chambersburg, PA. 17202."
Bear in mind, it's rare to see a bear in mine.
I will try to rembear that one😁
That’s the bare facts.
@@tallentstravels5727 Bear minimum to say the least
@@CivilShepherd -- Was that a BARE BEAR ? Lol .
In a way, a significant part of the Allied effort in WW2 happened down in the mines, extracting the precious elements without which you can't sustain a war effort - as Germany came to learn. Tungsten from that mine may have gone all the way across the ocean and into Axis armor.
Sorry about your hand, get well soon.
@@_tyrannus what is that supposed to mean?
@@tommywolfe2706 Composite anti-armor shells in WW2 were almost always made of tungsten. Tiger I/II and Panther tanks might have been much more of an issue if it weren't for these, and the shortage of tungsten on their end hurt their own anti-armor capabilities.
@@_tyrannus its a great conductor too. It may be alloyed with other metals, but in some form we apply it as "metal 2" or "top sputter" (last layer of metal) on the semiconductors we produce where I work.
@@rd3095 Yep! Our comments more than likely went through quite the length of tungsten to reach our screens. And tungsten is also the prime candidate to line up fusion reactor plasma vessels with. We're certainly not done finding new uses to W.
16:30 bear location
Huge credit for still doing this with a bust hand. Currently laid up with a broken femur here, been watching loads of your videos again, thank you for all of them.
I also broke my femur. 12.1.20. Still not a 100%. Take care.
Dang that sucks bro , drink plenty of milk it helps a lot I broke my collar bone !
@@jettyeddie_m9130 oldest myth in the world 😋 look it up 😉
Ahh the pass in a snowstorm...nothing like being up there in what we fondly call "amateur hour" those moments when you realize you are surrounded by people who don't have a clue how to drive in the snow. I wish there was a way to avoid those folks, but other than not leaving the house, there isn't one. As you might imagine, I have spent many, many nights up there. I do feel for the truckers tho. The...the other people...not so much. The stories I have would astound you Justin. We really do need to get a cup of coffee one of these days.
That area looks familiar.
Of all the things you have ever shown us that have made my curiosity go off that bear has pegged the meter. The chain of events that put him there, unreal. All the same questions you posed are now stuck in my head. I can see a bear wandering into a mine...the odds were not with him...wonder into a mine and be at exactly the wrong place at exactly the wrong time, and bingo, he is there for eternity.
I can understand the bear going in for shelter, or smelling a fresh dead rat snack, I can understand him getting lost, but winding up where he is just is over the top. Like you said, critters that live in the dark like dark places and are geared for them.
A bear in an ore chute?
He may have fallen into an open stope and started things in motion as he was tumbling down towards the funnel of the ore chute. Poor guy.
@@c103110a That's my thinking. 🤔
Poor bear. Cool mine looking forward to the rest of it. Hope your hand heals quickly 👍🇬🇧
Thank you. Yes, I felt sorry for the bear as well.
Seeing those shots with a human perspective in it really helped with understanding the mines dimensions. So thanks unwitting B-roll crew!!
Yes, I try to have other people in the video to show perspective, but it isn't always possible.
You could actually say that all ore chutes are ore chutes of death. They were very dangerous to unclog and I would never want to have that job.
I love that you just said, "It's kind of punk rock that I'm out here with a broken hand."
Yes sir, it's definitely punk rock! 🤘
They mentioned super hard rock too!
Amazing video as always. I can't even begin to imagine how that bear might have ended up down that ore chute.
While your camerawork is some of the most stable I've seen (It's seriously good) sometimes I wish you would use a wider lens. I feel it would make it a bit easier to keep a sense of direction in some of the more cramped situations you run into.
At 2:21 the bldg and the surrounding scenery looks like the mine scene in the movie "Hondo" with Paul Newman!! the tracks coming around the side , the crest of the mountain, and the mine itself!
"Did you just lick my hand!?!?" Must have been the bear......
Sorry to hear about your hand. I hope it gets better soon.
Thank you.
Your checking out the mine i sent you! Dude sweet. This is ryan btw
Nice video. This area has been on my list of ones to visit but still haven't made it up there yet.
I live down in Central Valley. Bout an hour and fifteen from you Justin.
Thanks for the great videos as always!
You ever check anything out in our area?
@@TVRExploring I have been in some adits and stuff but nothing crazy like some of Placer mines you been in or areas you been in Gold Country. Most my exploring is dry desert mines.
@@TVRExploring I have a built rockcrawler so lot of the times in the desert I can almost drive all the way up to the portal(depending what type of land ownership it is)
Hi Justin sorry to hear about the hand, Gee looks like that Bear got himself in a bit of a fix. Thanks for the video as always enjoyed. Cheers.
Growing up northeast of Reno, we played in all those areas. We even had our own names for the mines, pits and caves.
A very nice explore, guess that bear went head first down perhaps you can find the spot when you get on the level above, perhaps a false floor with a whole in it lol hope your hand gets better soon (if you dont climb ladders lol )
Possible the Bear came in for shelter or water? then it became confused? It looked like a younger bear from the size of the skull. Yearling Bears do a lot of traveling looking for food and shelter. Then fell and died of injuries while triggering the collapse/ or as mentioned the rock fell later.
Yes, probably something along those lines. If you read the description, how it might have ended up there is pretty strange though...
One of my favorite areas...Mines, petroglyphs, ancient caves. Some great geocaching as well. Love it!
Nice trip. I can guess why they stopped working this mine. Bears in the ore shoots.
When you see rock that looks like Granite, where you don't think there should be any, scratch it with a piece of steel, even a nail. If it scratches white it is Granite, if it scratches brown it is Chromite ore. Generally Chromite is closer grained than Granite but looks similar.
Great! Wonder if the bear was hidernating in the ore chute and was killed in a collapse over winter?
Cheers to a speedy recovery! Thanks for sharing!
That bear would have caused the mine to smell like death for a few months while it decomposed. Wonder if anyone would enter a mine if it smelled like something big died.
If you've ever smelled a rotting carcass, you'll never forget the smell...
Hello from London, love your videos 👍👍
Thank you! What part of London? I lived in London for years...
@@TVRExploring I live south London , more countryside, place called Chessington , near to Wimbledon 👍
@@happydays4778 Nice. Our place in Rome is right on the outskirts where we have city behind us and countryside in front of us. It's an ideal setting and I think that's cool that you found it in London. We were always closer to the center when in London, which has its perks, but I prefer being closer to the countryside now.
I saw dozens of bears just ahead of your lights, expecting at any moment to see one move and freak everyone out. LOL, that was fun.
I did the same thing. I was on edge for the first half of the video until the dead bear showed up, lol.
Dude, that is crazy! That is quite an important find for sure!
Definitly my favorite mine on the channel. It definitly has somethin cartoonish, with that portal straight from a Lucky Luke Comic and those Gephities and the bear skull. You wouln'd exactly be surprised to have an animatronic peak around the corner.
Woah that’s a unique find! Can’t say I’ve seen that before! Nice job fellas!
You and I have seen a lot together in abandoned mines, but this is definitely one of the craziest things I have seen.
At 24:16 is my million dollar question on what years this mine was in operation.. that's very interesting to see the past from the 1952 time frame!!
Yes, I love it when they put the dates... The more details, the better!
Columbia Steel Co is the company that made that steel rope reel
Edit: I would love a miners edition of shoots and ladders! And I'm tempted to take some of your footage and make a little diorama/fountain that's a multi-level mine cross section!
Mr Howard Brosman Jr, who left his autograph near one of the ore chutes, lived in Tonopah, Nevada, when he left his mark in that mine. He was born in 1929 in Illinois, according to the 1950 census, the son of Howard Brosman Sr and Martha Selby of Traverse City, Michigan. While he was in Tonopah, he was working as a.........miner, in what the census states as 'Teraming Mine', whatever that may mean. Name of the mine, perhaps? Howard was 21 when he left his autograph there in the mine. While living in Tonopah, he married Phyllis Nadine Furgerson. Both were apparently very well known, and well liked in Tonopah. They married on October 8, 1949 in Tonopah, at the home of the bride's parents. Howard was also in the army, and served at the Tonopah Air Base. At the time, he was also employed by the Northern Transportation Company, also in Tonopah. There is a photograph of the new Mrs. Brosman in the 17 October 1949, Reno Gazette - Journal, and she appears to be a quite beautiful, young lady. Perhaps I can find a photo of Howard Brosman Jr, too.
I thought you might enjoy this, Justin. Others may find this interesting as well. I love History and especially Genealogy, so researching this guy and his new wife is quite fun and enjoyable for me. It is always interesting to learn about those who came before us. Thank you for taking us all on this tour!
Great research! Thank you very much for tracking that down... No, the name of this mine was not the "Teraming Mine". I've never heard that name before.
I wonder if you found any mines in el dorado county especially in the Camino and pollock pines areas. If so it would be nice to see a video of them.as for the bear skull from the footage it looks like it triggered a collapse or was escaping one and that’s what killed it .
Very cool mystery to find! As you say, hopefully it didn't suffer too much :-( Grizzly end!
Sorry to hear about your hand - hopefully you're well on the way to recovery, now!
14:43 That ore "chute" must have been pneumatic to handle all the weight.
That’s quite a grizzly discovery
That’s crazy- this deserves to be on DDOI or something.
One of the craziest things that I have seen underground!
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@Quinn Christopher nobody cares actually..
Never seen a bear in a mine, but been chased out by a mountain lion. If you hear something strange that sounds like air being forced through a tight space, it's just a nervous kitty trying to warn you. When it turns to a screaming strange roar, get out :). Trust me.
Thank you for letting me know what to listen for... I haven't encountered a kitty yet, but a miner friend of mine did and it didn't sound like fun. It's amazing to me that they'll venture so far back into such inhospitable locations. They can see well at night, but there has to be SOME ambient light. Underground, there is absolutely none and so they would be as blind as we would without any lights.
Donner Pass... home sweet home ❤️
You can probably relate to those poor truckers having to put the chains on in the miserable conditions as well!
That mine has been on our hit list for a while... lots of other interesting historical stuff including native and pioneer sites in the general area
@@goldcountryexplorers8332 Yes, definitely. This level was a bit nasty because of the water and mud, but the upper levels are dry and have some pretty interesting features.
The Mill at 1:05 looks like a Freerunner's dream. Someone get Storror out there
Holy Cow! That mill is YUGE! Up front start-up costs are through the roof with this mine. Hope it was worth it.
I prefer a cold beer in my caves.
Would you believe that we STILL haven't come across any that have been left behind for us? No manners these days...
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Such a cool mine to see. Thanks for the great video sir! That Tojo and Hitler mention is kinda interesting so that mine was in operation during WWII.
Thank you. Yes, tungsten was considered a vital mineral for the war effort and so there was an explosion of tungsten mining during that time. The bear was, I believe, the highlight of this bottom level, but the upper levels are pretty interesting for the mine itself and there is more World War II graffiti up there.
@@TVRExploring Yes vital for AP shells and in making machine tools.
What a trip ! When we checked out those mines in coloma we had something scream at us ! I talked to my buddy and he thinks we can get access to them , Ill let you know .
Access would be great!
Where’s this “approximately” at?
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Or not
I haven't been disappointed by any of your video's yet. What if one of the old timers put that head in there when he new they were closing the mine.
There was a body connected to it that ran back underneath the rocks... Also, it was more recent than then based on the decomposition.
@@TVRExploring cool it would of been a funny thing for them to do though
I can’t Bear it! Another awesome mine explore by TVR!
Thank you. Hope you're doing well...
@@TVRExploring unfortunately, I have not been doing well. Was out for two months due to back surgery then out sick for three weeks with Covid-19.
@@muleskinnermining8661 I'm sorry to hear that! I'm nursing a broken hand right now (I got tangled up in a fire hose that I was deploying) and so I can relate to your frustration with being out... Covid is no fun either. I'm glad that both of those are behind you and, hopefully, you've paid your dues for the year so that things only get better from here.
@@TVRExploring , Thanks. Boy I sure hope all that is behind me. Sorry to hear about your hand. Can’t do much exploring or camera work with a broken hand. Get better, always looking forward to seeing your next video!
@@muleskinnermining8661 I hope so as well! Ha, I actually did this mine with the broken hand... The ladders were not easy.
“In 1949, she met and married Airman Howard (Shorty) Brosman who was stationed at the local air base, maintaining a home in Tonopah where son, Wayne Howard Brosman, was born.”- Taken from an obituary found on google. I’ll post the link in a reply. Likely that’s who wrote that name on the timber at 21:59. Pretty cool.
Can’t post links I forgot. The obituary was for one Phyllis Nadine Loughry, if anyone is interested.
@@RealNickTheCoolest I did post the link to the obit and the post was removed.
I think the bear was alive in the chute and tried digging its way out, downward. Got enough room for its head when the end came. The odds that the bear and the rocks all fell at once and landed just the way you see it are pretty remote....
Yes, that is a pretty fair guess...
Could be worse. I've known people who were unable to exit, had no means to
confirm an exterior rescue operation was underway, and huddled for warmth.
Wondering uneasily how in darkness it could become a survival of the fittest.
Did you pass through grass valley?
Yes, we did.
I heard they were going to open the mine there for more jobs, I used to live there, the cirus family lives there, it's a cool place
@@XaldinOfWind I'm about 90% sure that I sold an EIMCO LHD to the Grass Valley mine!
@@XaldinOfWind Given the demographics of the area, I would be shocked if they ever received permission to resume mining.
Are you going to go to vizit cerro gordo ghost town. Or link up with abandoned and forgotten places guys
Maybe the bear made the collapse and it went down head first.
Okay, when I read the title of your video, I assumed that you ran into a live bear! I explore in ontario , canada , so bears are usually on my mind. Have you ever run into a live bear in an abandoned mine?
I have always assumed that if a bear chose to hibernate in a mine , then it would stay fairly close to the entrance since it wouldn't be able to navigate in total darkness further in. I hope i'm right.
Starch is used in iron mining as a depressant. Apparently its low cost and low environmental impact make it useful in the flotation process. I'm not a miner so you would have to follow up on this to see what it actually means. I guess it has something to do with ore separation? I know that doesn't explain the paper bag in the tunnel but it lead to something I didn't know about lol!
Just a few months back there was a green hard hat on a post in front of the lower flooded adit. An f150 had a lot of fun learning angles on the drop/climb into the wash. He even drove the elephant spine canyon leading up to the mine on top of the range there. I've been there a few times and have a few slabs of those red stones up top in the onion layers of pyroxene and calcite. So many people miss the little almost caved adit with the ladder at the end, there's not even a sign on it.
That hard hat is still there. It's down on the ground behind a post... My buddies missed that little adit the first time they visited, but I am proud to say that I spotted it. I'm glad I saw it because that leads to one of the best levels. LOL, my buddy has an F150 as well, but we couldn't convince him to go for it!
How is the mine - and the road up to the mine - on top of the range? I was curious about that one, but we ran out of time.
@@TVRExploring we did it at night, and it looked terrible going up but coming down wasnt much. There's a shack up there and some surface work, I never made it in the adit there. Of course the really popular spot is on the other side of the range and south, lotta workings and similar looking drifts/ball rooms there I've only see recent pictures of, figured I'd be in the area again one day and haven't made it over there, other places in nw nv that have been taking up my weekends. I've read reports of this copper district not too far from town with thousands of feet of workings. So far all I've found is a monster adit with no chutes, some tunnels that service open ballrooms, and a ton of wood work. Gotta hurry up for this one, project is on the table for the whole mountain.
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wow great colorful mine is this.so much wooden work inside and great explores from u
Thank you. The upper levels are even more interesting.
@@TVRExploring yeah they are superb. Sir neeed help of u that is Endoscopic camera best or no for videos inside the mine.because often we need our hands to hold ourself not to fell down.
Did they pump water out when it was opened and working ???
Wow, that's incredible. What a way to go.
You should consider using a Lidar scanner to map all the mines you visit. :)
We've experimented with it. The technology isn't quite there yet in a form that works with the hardships of mine exploring...
Sorry about your hand. Hope it heals quickly. Great video.
Thank you.
Also, that bear is.. Flatter than the average bear.
This is true.
I Bearly know how to comment other than great Video . I loved the Drive in the view was Nice .
Cerro gourdo mine is a big mine seen on living in a ghost town
Beautiful I've been to Donner Pass the lake the campground in the summer and winter many times in my life thank you for showing this it brings back wonderful memories
I’m addicted to your vids! And it’s time for my self allowed one question a month! No more slurries of crazy questions! Lol Ok so smell.. I’m thinking it’s basically moist dirt with a moldy after smell? And do “wet” mines have a different smell then “dry” mines? Bonus question, p, two parts, what is the WORST smelling mine you’ve been in and on the flip side what’s the best smelling mine? Ok I’m done! Thank you so much for these vids, the photography and work you put into these
You've been along from the early days and I am grateful for that... Haha, so, you're allowed multiple questions a month! Wet mines smell completely different than dry mines and Nevada mines smell different than California mines, which smell different than mines in Italy. In Nevada, the dry mines have a smell of dust, sage and a hint of rodent urine. In the flooded mines with a lot of dirt, they smell like mud and in the flooded mines that are pretty much all hard rock, they don't really have a smell at all. Stagnant water can produce some rotting, unpleasant smells and a mine with some exotic mineral can have a sharp, bitter smell. The best smelling mine is either a mine in Italy where the air was blowing in the smell of flowers outside or a mine in Tombstone where the air was blowing in the smell of food cooking from the town.
That is one big ass mine! Incredible. Took many people a lot of hours to blast, drill and haul all this material out of there.
It sure is! Another one I underestimated...
NO WAY! I've always wondered if animals get caught in collapses....
This is the first time I've seen it, but it would seem to answer that question pretty decisively!
I was in a Mine in Colorado and saw a Mountain Lion Climb up a Ore Chute after we Saw each other. I turned around and got the Hell out of there. I hope you took the Skull!!
The skull was connected to the rest of the bear underneath the rock! I never take anything from the mines anyway...
Rip Yogi, go chase those pic-a-nic baskets .
I was waiting to see if anybody would have any Yogi, Pooh, or other comments.
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Great explore, planing to come back when the hand is better? Hope so.
Thank you. I toughed through the upper levels even with the limited use of my hand. I think I covered everything pretty well. Let me know if you see something promising I missed when you see the other videos, but I think I got pretty much everything I would have explored if I was 100%.
Thank you.
Does walking on quartz wear out boots pretty quick?
I seem to recall some miners mentioning that, yes...
I always think of Donkey Kong Country when I see a mine.
Very cool , Thank you.. Now I have to go find ,How to detect of find Tungsten .
Good luck! Tungsten ore is dark brown and sparkles a bit in light.
@@TVRExploring Tungsten is found in Wolframite and Shelight ,which fluoresces under ultraviolet light . I think that was the white vanes , and is found near Granit . Witch explains the Granit in the mine. Thanks for making my brain work . LOL
That's the same bear that stole my pic-a-nic basket
What was the small black box with wires on it to the left as you went in ?? 5.04 poor bear 🐻
If we're talking about the same thing, it was to support ventilation pipe that used to run through there. Yes, poor bear... I hope its death was a swift one and that it did not suffer.
What is the deal with the friggin bear? I lived in Laughlin Nv. for years and we hit up every silver mine within fifty miles and never hear anything about any kind of bear. There isn't any kind of food or anything for them to eat plus the temps get so hot. Coyotes can get pretty big and they are present in mines not to mention the different kinds of cats.
I looked it up because I was having a hard time getting my mind around it as well, but there are apparently quite a lot of black bears residing in Nevada.
@@TVRExploring Well I learn something new every day, thanks.
A very colorful mine would have made for some great stills! I guess how the the bear got there will just remain a mystery and I to hope it didn't suffer. At least it wasn't a live bear!!!
The anticipation was unbearable bearing in mind there was a bear in a mine I barely bare the thought of it.
6:07 there was also a dead mouse in the lower right corner
Where is this located at?
I did not know there where bears in the desert.
Being he was head down,he must have been walking in a upper level. And walked off in.the hole shut.
Why so much more modern woodwork in there? Much of the ore chutes have much more modern wood, can even see the jig sawing on them. The steel on the one chute is saw cut and mig welded.
As always a great explore, would love to do this someday
Someday won't come unless it's today.
Does a bear shift in the wood-en beams ?
Wow!! Crazy stuff man, how the hell did he get in there. Down in Yuma to see my daughter and went out to castle dome city. Took the tour. Drove up to see the big eye mine and didn't make it there. Front tire blew on our jeep rental, put the spare on and made it about 2 more before it blew. Lol.. Beauty of the trip was the nice people that came to our rescue.. Gotta make it an adventure right? Lol
Two blowouts? Nice... I'm glad you met some friendly people. I have been amazed at the generosity of strangers around the world when I've been stranded by vehicle problems.
nice Video👍
Question for you sir... What state or where is this mine located at? Looks out northwest I am guessing?
Ok I just got my question answer at the end of the video haha you said NEVADA I must make a bucket list some day to go see this good place
It is in Nevada.
RIP poor bear, what a crappy way to die
The bats bit through your waders
Do you ever go in with UV lights ?
Where is this and how do u find them?
The colors in that mine are beautiful, probably much better in person. That sulfur may mean that the area had geothermal vents in the ancient past, but I'm not sure. Still cool though.
Yes, unfortunately, the camera never fully picks up the colors.
Hey man , crappy news , my bro and I parked at a friends and went in there , the east entrance is gone , bulldosed ! The west entrance must have cams on it , we were old to leave over a speaker ! F-ing progress kills more history , had to check ,looks like a nogo
Didn’t know they had bears there with no trees
Oregon Caves was found by tracking a bear into the cave system.
I would be curious to know how far back into a cave (or mine) a bear will go.
I go over donner pass as a engineer for uprr. Always fun in the snow.
That is something I would love to see!
I mean from your perspective in the locomotive - not just as a passenger in an Amtrak...
Wish we could bring people along. I'd trade you for a mine exploration day. Best i could do is share photos.
@@DJPhantomRage That is a trade I would love to take you up on! Too bad for rules...
Ambitious Smokey left the Forrest Service for MSHA. Quickly finds himself.... in over his head.
Only you, can prevent mine collapse.
I hope it didn't suffer. Maybe it was just waking from hibernation and weak.