I went ahead and pulled the trigger on one of these this year. For the experiment, I just used a $12 tote with foam window sealer from the hardware store. The bilge vent pump managed to pull almost all escaping fog into the pipe so no real leaks. It was great. Just ran a couple small ~360W leftover foggers into the top. I was worried that because it was cold (32F) it would fail miserably. Absolutely not! It worked flawlessly, air was completely still, just freezing. Fog rolled from house to the street without dissipating (~60 ft on a ~4% grade). Worked so well I'm going to build a duplicate for the other half of the yard next year. Great fun.
AWESOME! Thank you for sharing this! Great to hear how well it worked for you!!. I have been thinking about fog leaking from the bin/tote and feel that leaky fog is likely to be low lying at that point anyway.... so no big deal. And it's great to hear that someone understands how colder temps could cause fog to be more likely rise due to the temperature/density differential. So often I get comments like "it'll work better when its cold outside" Also great to hear such good results with small fog machines. I typically test with a 400 watt machine myself.
You sir are a legend for figuring this out. I've built several fog chillers with varying results but ultimately they were all a PIA due to the ice. I used an old cooler chest, 1300w fogger and froggy's bog fog with this method and I get insane amounts of low lying fog! Best part is being able to test and tweak anytime I want without needing to load ice each time. Very innovative and changed my setup for the better!
This is awesome to hear! I'm glad that it is working well for you! And you nailed it... Being able to quickly set up to test an idea is so nice without having to make a run to the store.... And the chuck the ice when done tinkering. Thank you for the very humbling compliment. Happy Haunting!
Try making your own fog juice. Most pre-made stuff is like 80% water and water doesn't fog well with these machines. I would do 1 part Vegetable Glycerin, one part Propelyne Glycol and 1 part water. You're gonna get MUCH thicker clouds with that mixture. There are a handful of other youtubers that do stuff like this too. That's how I found out about just making your own concoction for fog juice.
@@BK-hq7tnyou’ll just clog it up faster if you don’t use water. Also requires the machine to work harder. But if your machine can handle it and you flush it out often, it’ll work.
I've purchased all the gear for my setup this year. Can't wait to try it out in a few days! Thank you for sharing all the details. You've definitely put in the time/effort to perfect this setup. Thank you Robert!
It looks AWSOME! Here in Germany slowly people decorate there houses more and more for Halloween. For next year I will add a fooger with your suggestion to my haunt. Thank you very much for sharing.
I made one of these and used it in a horror film this past weekend (Labor Day 2024) and it worked great! I used a 20 gallon plastic tub, mister with floats, a fog machine I got off Craigslist, and a vent fan that plugs into an outlet. Instead of trying to do any wiring I only got components I could plug into standard 120v outlets and plugged them all into a single power strip. I put the fogger on top of a hill so the fog would roll down and into the shot and it worked perfectly. Completely filled the area we were shooting in and then continued down into town!
Really love this setup, I’ve been fighting with my fog for years, constantly trying new things but this might be my setup for next year. Looks awesome, thanks for the video 👏🏻
Thank you! That sounds like me. many years of different cooling ideas. I even used a small radiator with chilled salt water to try to make a more effective unit. This one seems to be the most reliable and least temperamental of all the iterations. I hope you get great results as well!
Hey, I built one of these this year and it works really well. Instead of using the electrical box and wiring sockets like you did I just used a 1-to-3 way splitter and a "sockitbox". I had to do a lot less drilling and working with electrical :). I also found cheaper parts on Amazon/eBay (some of your links are for a ton of the parts). Anyways, I really appreciate your videos. This solution is really simple and nice!
I built a Robert's fogger based on your original video; but, I used a storage tote as I needed a larger surface for my Chauvet Hurricane 1302 1200w fogger to fit onto. I also bought a cheap 400w fogger from big lots as a secondary fogger and tested it on this setup. Even that little fogger has enough potential to successfully pull this effect off for the yard. My Hurricane 1302 inevitably ends up giving the whole block a fog effect. I really love this fog machine for its timer settings and large storage tank. I usually just run it somewhere around 1/3-1/2 output. At this setting the 1302 can do this constantly for 2-3 hours without intervention. Combined with a 4" inline duct fan you get a perfect and constant fog rate. I really appreciate this design as a simple plug and play very mobile setup. I hadn't thought about using one of these wheeled tool boxes or totes and using a power distribution block to make it one cord. The 10 head pnd fogger I bought from amazon has a sealed weather proof powersupply that came with it. That thing get extremely hot. There is no way I would put it into a box. I'm looking for a sheet of aluminum to mount it to help sink the heat. It gets untouchably hot within a half hour. How hot does that setup get in that weather resistant box you've got?
Thank you!! And It's great to hear that this set up is working for you. It is surprising how this can improve a cheap 400W fogger. Although,I really need to get a bigger fog machine, LOL 900W is my biggest one. That power supply is way overrated for this project and has a built in fan for cooling. It gets warm, but not untouchably hot. I would say the misting unit gets warmer than my power supply. That's why I felt comfortable with a plastic unvented box. But yeah, I would want to use a heat sink or metal box if yours is getting that hot.
Wow, I was not expecting that amount of fog from just water. I think you have a product. I would love to water my front yard with that, and it would be photo ops for all the joggers. Good job; I love it.
Cool! (See what I did there? LOL) I have never used dry ice - that is something I still want to try. This has performed as well as regular ice for me. With the added bonus of not having to keep adding ice throughout the evening. Nor having to go get ice anytime I want to fire this up. Good luck and let us know how your build goes! Happy Haunting!
Thank you! This was with my smallest fog machine just for demonstration. It looks even better when I use my higher output fog machine. But it's nice to show what this unit can do on a budget fog machine.
@@intocoasters Yea, mine will run almost 2 minutes between balsts. I set it my machine for about 90 seconds and let it ride. My box is probably 3x the size of yours though.
@@OakLaneCemetery nice! I am going to be building several as I want one for a fog wall, one for the yard, one for a toxic scene, etc. Now that will start costing a lot. LOL
@@intocoasters With the amount of fog a big one like mine puts out you might be able to just branch off the main hose and pipe it to several different effects.
Im trying this out this year. I was testing the mist maker and after an hour of running the water was really warm. I havnt hooked up the fog machine yet but am really excited to give it a try. This will be for a graveyard. I also run three other fog machines, 2 misters & 2 humidifiers. We started a haunted woods trail a few years ago and I'm always looking for more ways to improve my set-up. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Thank you! Yeah, the water does get quite warm but, it does not seem to affect the output enough to really worry about. In the first draft of this project, I used a circulation pump with the hopes of adding a radiator to cool the water. In the end, it didn't seem to make enough of a difference. Good luck with the build! I would love to see how you implement it.
Nice build and amazing results. I've thought about trying my own version since your original video. I'd like to try to add a microcontroller with sensors (temperature, humidity, "dust", wind speeds, etc.) and see if I can tune it to produce optimum results in a wide range of circumstances. I also wanted to experiment with how much mist is actually needed. There are "reptile" humidifiers that produce a lot of mist with just a single ultrasonic head.
DUDE! That sounds like an AWESOME upgrade! I would LOVE to hear how it goes! I wish I knew more about Arduino programming to tackle something like that! And I will look up the reptile humidifiers.
WOW that's some impressive work! I might have to work on piecing together a system like this over the course of next Summer for Halloween of next year when I'll be home to do my big spread in my driveway.
Thank you! And so true! I know you know, once things start rolling, we don't have time to go and babysit all the effects.... I think a lot of people don't realize just how busy we are!
I loved your first video and I've shared it several times. I made one of your first version and have wanted to improve it. Now you've given me additional ideas. I'll just have to get through Christmas first before I get back into Halloween props.
Thanks for the update. I needed a better tote, thanks for the recommendation! Because as I learned it doesn't matter how much weatherstrip you use and then I duck taped the CRAP out of it and it still leaked. It took me forever to take it back apart after the Haunt was shut down. I too bought the stupid expensive float just because I didn't want to mess with it either. $35 is just crazy.
Oh yes! Gorilla tape is my friend. LOL I, too, would have to tape up all the corners and sides on the lid of the aquarium that I used. Not to mention how freaking heavy the aquarium is empty let alone full of water. I hope you have good luck with the same toolbox. I wasn't sure how well the gasket would work, but was quite happy with it.
@@intocoasters I want to try something. I check where to get that box, Lowes about $35... I wonder if Homeless Despot has one like it because that store is across the street from me... if not Lowes is not too far away.
@@intocoasters Husky brand LOOKS to be similar on line, I need to investigate in person. I don't see a seal around, so no I don't think it will work. Now here's something of an Idea... With the existing LARGE tote that I have... What if I had a smaller plastic box with the water and mister... and put a large garbage bag around that to pump the fog seal around that and then on the other end for the output? Maybe I can save myself $40 bucks and the work already invested, just use a garbage bag on the inside instead of sealing all the stupid leaks? Any ideas? BTW: If you want to collaborate, I'd like to brainstorm with you, let me know!
GREAT IDEA! The mister is cooling the fog! You know what you can do to increase the output of that fog machine by 10 times. Ditch the fog fluid and use distilled water and glycerin. 70% glycerin (food grade) and 30% distilled water.
It is a 10 head pond fogger that I got from Amazon . it came with a 48-volt supply. I had to add my own wiring and plug, but that wasn't too difficult - just be careful with polarity. I see other builds use a 12-head pond fogger. I bet the effect is even better!
@@intocoasterswhere did you power the mister from? It looks like the power cord supplies the duplex outlet which just has the small extension cord for the fogger and the fan/speed controller plugged in. I’m not seeing where you powered the mister. I have limited power so I love the idea of only 1 extension cord
@@jeffreysmith9296 Im sorry I forgot to mention how that was wired. I have that power supply wired at the back of the outlet. The mains power connects to one set of screw terminals on the back of the outlet. Then a short length of wire runs from the other set of screw terminals to the power supply. I hope this helps!
Finally got almost all my parts for this and I'm stoked! But I tried to build my own float and failed 🤦♂️ I didn't realize it had to be under water a little bit. How would you go about building a float? I tried pool noodles and small weights.
You could combine all this equipment into an Amazon list, then it would be easy to see it all combined. Thanks for the video! Have you considered setting a timer of some sort on your fan so it doesn't push all the fog away from the tubing? It would be cool to install some sort of relay that's connected to the fogger.
Thank you for the suggestion. I just learned how to do the links - I figured there was a better way. I'll see if I can figure that out as well. I had considered a timer - but by the time the show starts, I forget all about it. One of these years I am going to tinker with a timer that is synched to the fog release.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Quick question. What size pipe elbows for the entry section where the fog machine fog goes into the box? They look to be about 3" to me. Also on the output side, they look to be about 4". It looks like the dryer hose is 4" before it gets to the blower. I do believe the blower/fan is 3.5" and then the perforated drain pipe is 4", Did you have to use any adapters or reducers? Just wanted to verify all this before I start buying the pipes. Lastly, In your video you show a duplex outlet inside the control box. But I count 3 connections needed. One for the mister power supply, one for the blower/fan transformer, and one for the small extension for the fogger. Am I confused or did you somehow hard-wire the mister power supply? Thanks again for all the great content.
Excellent questions! I will try to answer from memory, please forgive any conflicting info. The pipe elbows are small 45° bends for the one and a half inch pipe. I don't know the size off hand, these were left over from another project. I can't remember if it's 4" or 4-1/2" on the output of the shower drain. The way I selected it was to carry a dryer hose around hardware store fitting it to different assemblies that had a flange mount. To secure the dryer hose to the output port, I am using a pipe clamp that is meant for dryer hoses. I think you are correct on the sizes between the bilge fan, the corrugated pipe, and the dryer hose. I do not have any adapters or clamps. I know it's not very professional, but I just kind of stuff the fan into both parts. It seems to do fine so I have not explored making those connections better yet. I do plan to use insulation foam board to cut my own gaskets for a pressure fit. Oh! The power supply for the misting unit is hardwired inside the electrical box behind the outlet.
I built a ground fogger similar to yours but a larger scale. I used a large dewalt rolling tool box with a 12 head ultrasonic atomizer. I also run a commercial 1500 watt fog machine and a blower. It works great. Question - does the power supply for the atomizers get really hot being in that box? Mine gets pretty hot and I keep it outside of a box. Just curious
Nice upgrade, glad i can go to lowes and not petrco.. (cause i can get the pipe at the same time) A couple of performance questions. How long can you run the mister with the anoint of water that you can place in the tool box? Do you know the power draw of the mister? and if you had a fog machine with a more robust heating element ,with a very short reheat cycle , could the mister keep up with longer duration smoke activation ?Power is a deal for me as I run 6 smoke machines (with ducting and dry Ice) at my haunt and close to 60 lights and i have to split power all over the house.
I have a wiring question. Perhaps I missed this but I've gone over the video many times and taken screen shots. - a single black extension cord (from the house) comes into the duplex box - the duplex box has 2 outlets. outlet 1 goes to the orange cord for the fog machine. outlet 2 goes to the fan control which then goes to the fan - the silver power supply goes to the ultrasonic mister where does the silver power supply get its power if only a single extension cord comes into the overall box and the duplex box already has both outlets in use? should I just run 2 black extension cords into the overall box or add something to the duplex box so I can get one more plug (for the silver power supply)?
he wired the silver power supply directly to the back of the outlet. I chose to wire the fog machine extention cord to the back of the outlet so I can unplug the fan and the silver power supply.
I'm sure if you did add some ice to the water in the box it would hug the ground even more. I know where I live the heat makes the ice fog chillers not work as great. Phoenix AZ is still warm up to the middle of November.
Thank you! I don't know the details on the shower drain enough to post a link - I'd be afraid of suggesting the wrong one. I took a dryer hose to the plumbing aisle and test fit to different drains to find one that fit the hose.
would you be able to to make a tutorial on how to hook and wire everything up? i dont think id have time to make this for this Halloween but next i would have it ready. you know people who havent wired anything before. i get the main parts like circuit box and shorting the misters cord and such but how did you wire the fan up with speed controller
This is awesome and really cleverly compact! The one thing I'm not clear on is how the fog gets down into the chamber. Is the output spout of the fog machine just spraying the fog stream towards the pvc pipe inlet and the fog just goes in due to the suction from the outlet fan?
Thank you! When you have the fog machine a couple inches away from the inlet, it creates a Venturi effect from the fog being expelled out of the machine and dragging a ton of air with it. It kind of creates its own Flow by doing. If the vent fan is not running, a small amount of fog that has not yet chilled will come back out of the inlet pipe. The bilge fan does help a little, but it's not necessary as you might notice in the beginning of the video before I added the fan.
Ibet if you capped off the end of the black tubing, it would give you more fog coming out along the whole length of the black tube presenting a better fog blanket
I like that idea. I'm gonna try it next time I set it up. In the past I had a tombstone in front of the port to deflect the fog sideways. But I'm interested to see how it behaves with the port blocked. Thanks for the suggestion!
How did you solve the heating problem? The mister and the fogger heat the water and fog up pretty good over time and eventually prevents the fog from laying low
Did you place the fan at the end of the dryer tube for a reason? The reason I ask is that I would like to have my output branch of to a set of 3 small grave stones that spit out the fog as well as the 4” irrigation tube. I was thinking of using a “Y” connector to split the fog and having that right after the fan. I am using a 1000 fogger.
Thank you, I did not have a reason for the fan placement. I guess laziness? I didn't want to have to figure out how to mount the fan on the box. It turns out to be convenient really. I can easily move the hose and fan without having to move the chest full of water. That splitter seems like it would work. When I have an idea like that, I just start testing different setups - to see which one will give me the best results.
Do you have an instruction video on the "control box" power supply ,duplex outlet, transformer, speed controller? Also wondering if you have links to the items you used?
I did not make a video of the control box as I didn't think it was interesting enough to talk about it in depth. The speed controller is a 12V motor speed control board. The misting unit and power supply were purchased together as a kit. When I go to my orders to grab the link I get a page that says "no longer available". I did grab the link for the bilge fan. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Most of the other parts are from other projects thru the years and I wouldn't know where I got a lot of them. I didn't think this video would bring as many comments as it has. I've learned that I need to track parts and offer a list for future projects!
@@willyscreation The controller board has 12 volt input, and a variable 12 volt output. I connect the 12 volt power supply to the input of the controller board, and the fan gets connected to the output of the controller board. I hope this makes sense
I have been wanting to make one of these out of either a Packout dolly, or one of those giant husky totes, cause I wanna put 2 or even 3 ultra sonic fighters in there, and my big fog machine.
If you go to 5:10 in the video, I run only water vapor for a bit. I do not have any video of only fog with the fan, but that really doesn't act much differently then a fog machine by itself. Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I was hoping to see how the mister look’s coming out of the black tube without the fog. Either way I’ll be heading out to buy that tube to distribute my fog. Great idea!
@@degan9403 oh! I misunderstood! Yeah, this weekend I can set up a demonstration with just the fog through the black tube and then just the mist through the black tube. It's likely not going to be until Saturday.
I believe it is a 3" inlet. If this link works, it's the one I ordered. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Does humidity outside have any noticeable effect? Out in Florida our Halloween nights are usually so humid the grass is completely wet. I would think that would make it easier to get this effect but I’m always fighting with my chiller (ice in a bucket style and fog directly hits ice). I don’t get nearly as much coverage as you even with a 1000w fogger running froggy’s bog fog. Think I might experiment with this a bit for next year
It might help it actually. I can't really remember when I test it in the humid days versus Halloween night. The real big factor is wind. Even the slightest breeze will turn low lying fog into fly away fog. Happened this year... the wind was about 6 MPH all evening... no low lying fog effect outside. Let us know how it goes if you build it!
I’m making a Roberts Fogger this year and am super excited! I bought the 10 head mister but am wondering about the float. I’m a super novice when it comes to stuff. Do I need a float for the mister or can I just plunk the mister into the bottom of the “chiller box”?
Hi! thank you! And I can't wait to hear about your build. The simple answer is, yes, you should definitely use a float. There is an optimum depth for the misting unit to function properly. As fog passes through and leaves the chiller, it will bring a lot of the water vapor out with it. This will lower your water height. Eventually the misting unit will stop functioning with a water level drops too low. The float will allow you to have a deeper chamber of water while maintaining the proper operating depth. The missing unit will not work at all if there is too much water above it. Again, that's where the float is helpful. I really hope this helps. And wishing you awesome luck for your build!
@@intocoasters Thank you for that informative reply! You explained it so I could understand right away why a float will be good to have! I’ve been watching so many of your videos! Thank you for sharing your builds with all of us! Your Roberts fogger is awesome and your video is shared in many Facebook Halloween groups!
All the small pipe is 1.5". But 2" would work. I was using whatever pieces I had left over from other projects. The outlet piece is a shower drain. I think it was 4 inches or four and a half inch. I was in home Depot and had a dryer hose just see what drains it would fit on, and which drains had a flange for mounting. Unfortunately, I do not know the model number And thank you!
So if it's only using water, would it be safe to assume this would cause a slipping hazard if I use this indoors on a dancefloor on the assumption that it would make the floor more humid?
That may be correct. What I have noticed is condensation collects close to the outlet. It might be okay if the outlet is not near where people will be walking/dancing. I would recommend testing this first. Since I only use this outside, I'm not sure of its indoor behavior.
Got mine all set up last night, and my fog just won't lie down (comes out looking like yours for a split second then starts to rise and wander off). Was there zero wind in this video? We live about 3 miles from the coast and there is a 4 knot onshore breeze right now, so even though it feels still at our house, it must not be. Wondering if that's my main issue.
That is an impressive cover of low-lying fog without the usual "vortex" and other ice-based chillers out there. I probably still have a few of my modified coolers with the metal mesh on a raised PVC frame but you always ended the night with so much ice wasted - so much water everywhere - so much rock salt to make the ice colder - not easily portable - the trash-can fog chillers were great but still a huge non-portable mass and the same issues with the residual water that was wasted. I love that this has no ice at all yet gets phenomenal results. Obviously it was a still night when you filmed this, and yet I can still see the immediate benefits for overall haze/fog even if there's a breeze. What's your water consumption per hour with the US mister heads? How much time can you run on one fill of the main box before the floats get too low for the US mister to have water over it (i.e. what's the "set it and forget it" time)? Do you find different results depending on the fog juice used, or does the type of juice bear less relevance with the US mister and the vent fan? Danke! well done - great ideas!
I can tell you've been there too. Man, I hated relying on ice. Yes, it's inexpensive, but still another thing I had to babysit. And it NEVER lasted an entire night. Ice is great when fresh, but the performance drops as the night goes on. And yeah, I was blessed with still air while filming this. That is not a common occurrence there. Water consumption is surprisingly low. I have to refill the fog machine before I have to do anything with the water. I could probably get 3 to 4 nights out of the water tank. But I empty it every night to keep the water for growing gross. I haven't done a comprehensive study on fog types, but they do seem similar. I like the fog that has staying power, like swamp juice from Froggy's Fog. However, I still see great results with the cheap Walmart/Target stuff as well.
What fan do you use for the set up? I ordered one off Amazon, and it only lasted a week. It died the night before Halloween, so I wasn't able to use a fan for Halloween night. 😭😭
@@DJCappy-zh1hl oh man, that is a bummer when a part fails just before Halloween. That's happened to me on some other effects. For this setup I am using a 12 volt bilge fan I got from Amazon. So far, it's been fairly reliable. It's noisier than I would like. But then again so is a fog machine
So this is using a mister instead of burning fog juice correct? This lays lower than even the dry ice fig machine I have, im fascinated with this but I cant believe it still.
It's still heats fog juice, that happens in the fog machine sitting on top of the unit. Once the hot fog comes out of your standard fog machine it then runs through the chamber that's filled with mist. The fog particles cling on to the water vapor and there's some thermal energy transfer when this happens which both cools it down and makes it heavier. At least that's how I understand how it works. Thanks for watching!
@@c0pyimitati0n I have heard lots of different information, I'll try to consolidate how I understand it. Hopefully someone will correct me if I get something wrong. When fog fluid gets heated up, the water in the fluid turns to steam and shatters the glycol into tiny particles. The fog that comes out isn't smoke, it's atomized glycol I believe. Apparently, glycol easily bonds with water molecules. When the hot fog enters the chamber with the watermist, there is so much atomized water that the glycol easily bonds to the water vapor. This bonding process allows thermal transfer from the glycol molecules to the water. So I guess that cools it down. But now you're increasing the size of the particle suspended in air which might make them heavy enough to not rise. That's the super simplified method of how I understand this works. If anyone reading this can add to the explanation, that would be great! Happy haunting!
@@intocoasters very interesting!! Thanks for the quick reply. Just picked up a 1000w fog machine from Party City with a double coupon for $43 shipped!! Can't wait to have low lying fog for my graveyard this year.
@@intocoasters it was $100 originally and a big step up from my cheap 400w machine I plan on putting some frozen water bottles inside the corrugated tubing to hopefully help keep the fog lower. Big ups on the awesome video!
@@intocoasters Nice post, I was just looking for answers on those regarding the fog and mister. Do you know if it causes the mister pads to get mucked up from glycol getting on the water?
I agree. I am thinking of different way to distribute the fog that has several large outlets rather than a long pipe of small holes. Thanks for watching!
Outstanding setup. However, I really wish you had provided web links to everything you purchased, rather than vague search terms. That way we'd know what sizes, manufacturer, models, etc... of the fan, the power supply, the ultrasonic mister, and things like that. I can't tell if you're using a 3 inch or a 4 inch duct fan, If it's a marine bilge fan, or if it's a dryer duct fan. All of that info would have been extremely helpful. Otherwise, great video.
Thank you! And I wish I had tracked all the purchases along the way too - I didn't expect this project to be as well received as it has been. I sourced the parts from Amazon and from AliExpress mostly. Then some parts from the hardware store. Coincidently, I had looked up the fan and have the link here. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I hope it works. The silver hose is in fact a dryer hose, but he black pipe is a corrugated irrigation pipe that has a slot cut into the sides. Unfortunately I cant pull up any page for the misting unit as it shows "no longer available" The other parts are some plumbing and electrical from past projects that could've come from anywhere.
Maybe I have missed the "equipment" list.. but is there a list of parts/items so that can go out and purchase what you have built? It just looks awesome 😀😀😀
Thank you! This video was a follow up as to how I am housing the unit. The original teardown/explanation video is ruclips.net/video/o5M-YbGWf4g/видео.html I describe the parts and how I used them. You will see a circulation pump in that video that I have since replaced with a float.
this video is old now so i probably will not get a reply. but I wanted to know if you could ditch the fogger and just pour fog juice into the red tub and let the pond mister do all the work? have a 30L mix of water and fog juice?
Thank you! I get quite a lot right where the flexible duct and fan meet. Then a little along the length of the rigid tube. Not as much as where the fan is however. I would not let guests walk near the fan junction as it would be slippery. It's water vapor and some of the glycol that condensed. So it's slippery.
Hi and welcome to your new addiction. LOL Typically I use a 1000 watt fog machine from Spirit Halloween. I have used a 900 watt machine from AFX and cheap 400 watt machines from department/hardware stores. I have had awesome results from all of them with this set-up. Ask a dozen people what the best fog machine is and be prepared to get a dozen different answers. It comes down to what features you want. For example manual trigger vs timed auto trigger, built in fluid tank vs removable tank, wireless trigger vs wired, cost, etc. Typically the higher the wattage, the more cubic feet of fog that can be delivered per second. And depending on your needs, there can be too much fog. Hope this info helps!
Just curious, how fast does the ultrasonic misters go thru water? I'm thinking of trying this but using a separate plastic tub for the misters but don't want to have to keep filling it non stop.
I can refill the fog machine twice before I run out of water. I actually have never run it long enough to run out. I end up changing the water after a day or two to keep it fresh.
This is my project next year for sure. Tired of getting the ice box system to not work every year. Is there a video where you happen to have the materials listed out in writting or anything?
I do have a video that shows the initial construction and testing. Search for Roberts Fogger if this link doesn't work ruclips.net/video/o5M-YbGWf4g/видео.html
@@intocoasters Thanks, Ive watched it. Was hoping for a list to search up the names of the items. But ill have to just go back thru and listen better :P
@@TheXerosyn Ah! Sorry. The parts are: 10-head pond fogger (Amazon) 48V power supply (AliExpress) Float for the pond fogger (Amazon)_ 12V in-Line Bilge Air Blower (Amazon) 12V PWM motor controller (AliExpress) Then various hoses/pipes and a Craftsman Versastack tool chest. Hope this helps.
I have tested in warm weather, around 70F as well as the mid 40s. It seems to work better in the warm weather. I guess the greater temp difference between the fog and air help keep the fog laying low.
@@intocoasters Thank you for the confirming my suspicions. Yes, the difference in air temperature does come into play. Unfortunately I will apparently need to continue using an ice based system outside in colder weather in order to keep the fog at ground level.
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on one of these this year. For the experiment, I just used a $12 tote with foam window sealer from the hardware store. The bilge vent pump managed to pull almost all escaping fog into the pipe so no real leaks. It was great. Just ran a couple small ~360W leftover foggers into the top. I was worried that because it was cold (32F) it would fail miserably. Absolutely not! It worked flawlessly, air was completely still, just freezing. Fog rolled from house to the street without dissipating (~60 ft on a ~4% grade). Worked so well I'm going to build a duplicate for the other half of the yard next year. Great fun.
AWESOME! Thank you for sharing this! Great to hear how well it worked for you!!.
I have been thinking about fog leaking from the bin/tote and feel that leaky fog is likely to be low lying at that point anyway.... so no big deal.
And it's great to hear that someone understands how colder temps could cause fog to be more likely rise due to the temperature/density differential. So often I get comments like "it'll work better when its cold outside"
Also great to hear such good results with small fog machines. I typically test with a 400 watt machine myself.
You sir are a legend for figuring this out. I've built several fog chillers with varying results but ultimately they were all a PIA due to the ice. I used an old cooler chest, 1300w fogger and froggy's bog fog with this method and I get insane amounts of low lying fog! Best part is being able to test and tweak anytime I want without needing to load ice each time. Very innovative and changed my setup for the better!
This is awesome to hear! I'm glad that it is working well for you!
And you nailed it... Being able to quickly set up to test an idea is so nice without having to make a run to the store.... And the chuck the ice when done tinkering.
Thank you for the very humbling compliment. Happy Haunting!
Try making your own fog juice. Most pre-made stuff is like 80% water and water doesn't fog well with these machines. I would do 1 part Vegetable Glycerin, one part Propelyne Glycol and 1 part water. You're gonna get MUCH thicker clouds with that mixture. There are a handful of other youtubers that do stuff like this too. That's how I found out about just making your own concoction for fog juice.
I have been looking at those videos recently. I definitely want to give it a try!
Just do 1 to 1 vegetable Glycerin and Propelyne Glycol.
@@Zeaiclies Correct 50/50. You can do 80/20 or 20/80 but forget the water altogether.
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Oh I know water doesn't work
@@BK-hq7tnyou’ll just clog it up faster if you don’t use water. Also requires the machine to work harder. But if your machine can handle it and you flush it out often, it’ll work.
I've purchased all the gear for my setup this year. Can't wait to try it out in a few days! Thank you for sharing all the details. You've definitely put in the time/effort to perfect this setup. Thank you Robert!
Awesome! I hope you're impressed with the final build.
And I would love to see what you come up with!
It looks AWSOME! Here in Germany slowly people decorate there houses more and more for Halloween. For next year I will add a fooger with your suggestion to my haunt. Thank you very much for sharing.
Awesome! I hope it goes well for you and I would love to hear about it!
I made one of these and used it in a horror film this past weekend (Labor Day 2024) and it worked great! I used a 20 gallon plastic tub, mister with floats, a fog machine I got off Craigslist, and a vent fan that plugs into an outlet. Instead of trying to do any wiring I only got components I could plug into standard 120v outlets and plugged them all into a single power strip. I put the fogger on top of a hill so the fog would roll down and into the shot and it worked perfectly. Completely filled the area we were shooting in and then continued down into town!
Hi Can you send me details. I would like to do something like this for my Halloween party.
@@jeremyneal6561 the details are in the video, my man
Really love this setup, I’ve been fighting with my fog for years, constantly trying new things but this might be my setup for next year. Looks awesome, thanks for the video 👏🏻
Thank you! That sounds like me. many years of different cooling ideas. I even used a small radiator with chilled salt water to try to make a more effective unit. This one seems to be the most reliable and least temperamental of all the iterations. I hope you get great results as well!
Hey, I built one of these this year and it works really well. Instead of using the electrical box and wiring sockets like you did I just used a 1-to-3 way splitter and a "sockitbox". I had to do a lot less drilling and working with electrical :).
I also found cheaper parts on Amazon/eBay (some of your links are for a ton of the parts).
Anyways, I really appreciate your videos. This solution is really simple and nice!
@@sascoo thank you so much. Those electrical splitter boxes are awesome, I use several of them in my Christmas display.
I built a Robert's fogger based on your original video; but, I used a storage tote as I needed a larger surface for my Chauvet Hurricane 1302 1200w fogger to fit onto. I also bought a cheap 400w fogger from big lots as a secondary fogger and tested it on this setup. Even that little fogger has enough potential to successfully pull this effect off for the yard. My Hurricane 1302 inevitably ends up giving the whole block a fog effect. I really love this fog machine for its timer settings and large storage tank. I usually just run it somewhere around 1/3-1/2 output. At this setting the 1302 can do this constantly for 2-3 hours without intervention. Combined with a 4" inline duct fan you get a perfect and constant fog rate.
I really appreciate this design as a simple plug and play very mobile setup. I hadn't thought about using one of these wheeled tool boxes or totes and using a power distribution block to make it one cord. The 10 head pnd fogger I bought from amazon has a sealed weather proof powersupply that came with it. That thing get extremely hot. There is no way I would put it into a box. I'm looking for a sheet of aluminum to mount it to help sink the heat. It gets untouchably hot within a half hour.
How hot does that setup get in that weather resistant box you've got?
Thank you!! And It's great to hear that this set up is working for you. It is surprising how this can improve a cheap 400W fogger. Although,I really need to get a bigger fog machine, LOL 900W is my biggest one.
That power supply is way overrated for this project and has a built in fan for cooling. It gets warm, but not untouchably hot. I would say the misting unit gets warmer than my power supply. That's why I felt comfortable with a plastic unvented box.
But yeah, I would want to use a heat sink or metal box if yours is getting that hot.
Nice job. I made one of these immediately after your first video went live. It’s been a game changer. Thanks for sharing!
That is awesome to hear! I would love to see it in action of you have any videos of it.
Wow, I was not expecting that amount of fog from just water. I think you have a product. I would love to water my front yard with that, and it would be photo ops for all the joggers. Good job; I love it.
@@fsoileau thank you! And yes, the amount of fog that comes out is very surprising when compared to how little fog is going in
You should put a vented corrugated pipe cap on the end. Acts as a bit of resistance to pressure more fog out of the pipe holes.
Looks good.
Thank you very much!!
so incredible as usual my friend! love how the fog just lingers for a while!
Thank you very much! The fog looks great once the tombstones and lighting are all set up.
After using a combo of dry ice and ice blocks for my chiller I want to try this. I love the idea of having a no ice chiller.
Cool! (See what I did there? LOL)
I have never used dry ice - that is something I still want to try.
This has performed as well as regular ice for me. With the added bonus of not having to keep adding ice throughout the evening. Nor having to go get ice anytime I want to fire this up.
Good luck and let us know how your build goes!
Happy Haunting!
Great video. You did a great job. Isn’t it amazing how things come alive after dark
That shot back toward the house had a LOT of atmosphere to it. Well done!
Thank you! This was with my smallest fog machine just for demonstration. It looks even better when I use my higher output fog machine.
But it's nice to show what this unit can do on a budget fog machine.
@@intocoasters Will there be a follow up short vid so we can see what a larger fog machine can do?
@@haynerbass that's not a bad idea. I might make a short showing that off. It will depend alot on the wind
I think we've about got this thing figured out! Looking great!
Thanks man!! And thank you for the vent fan idea. Really helps with an illusion of constant fog even though it's just bursts on a timer.
@@intocoasters Yea, mine will run almost 2 minutes between balsts. I set it my machine for about 90 seconds and let it ride. My box is probably 3x the size of yours though.
@@OakLaneCemetery nice! I am going to be building several as I want one for a fog wall, one for the yard, one for a toxic scene, etc. Now that will start costing a lot. LOL
@@intocoasters With the amount of fog a big one like mine puts out you might be able to just branch off the main hose and pipe it to several different effects.
I see a comment about the vent fan, what is this? Im going to attempt this build but not overly knowledgeable about polarity and wiring
I love when people get into stuff like this.
@@nipzie thank you! That's probably my favorite part of the internet and RUclips!
This is amazing! the smoke looks so good!
Thank you very much!
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Im trying this out this year. I was testing the mist maker and after an hour of running the water was really warm. I havnt hooked up the fog machine yet but am really excited to give it a try. This will be for a graveyard. I also run three other fog machines, 2 misters & 2 humidifiers. We started a haunted woods trail a few years ago and I'm always looking for more ways to improve my set-up. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Thank you!
Yeah, the water does get quite warm but, it does not seem to affect the output enough to really worry about. In the first draft of this project, I used a circulation pump with the hopes of adding a radiator to cool the water. In the end, it didn't seem to make enough of a difference.
Good luck with the build! I would love to see how you implement it.
@@intocoasters It's convenient to avoid the ice method, but could you add some ice cubes to the water to offset the heat from the ultrasonic mister?
Nice build and amazing results. I've thought about trying my own version since your original video. I'd like to try to add a microcontroller with sensors (temperature, humidity, "dust", wind speeds, etc.) and see if I can tune it to produce optimum results in a wide range of circumstances. I also wanted to experiment with how much mist is actually needed. There are "reptile" humidifiers that produce a lot of mist with just a single ultrasonic head.
DUDE! That sounds like an AWESOME upgrade! I would LOVE to hear how it goes! I wish I knew more about Arduino programming to tackle something like that! And I will look up the reptile humidifiers.
Fan bloidy tastick! Creative and innovative! Great work dude! 25$ smoke machine!! 10 out of 10, and yoh get the ourple dragin stamp.
Thank you!!
Great work as always. And a nice update to the original design. Thanks so much for sharing!
Thank you so much! It's been a fun project to tinker with and share with you all.
I ❤ this stuff, really want to learn how to make a mini version around my swimming pool with different colours LED light.. perfect for summer
WOW that's some impressive work! I might have to work on piecing together a system like this over the course of next Summer for Halloween of next year when I'll be home to do my big spread in my driveway.
Thank you! It's a fun project and quite rewarding to fire it up! I'd love to see your build and how you use it in your haunt/scenes.
Having seen it in person last Halloween, it is a really nice effect. Plus, no having to worry about filling with ice!
Thank you! And so true! I know you know, once things start rolling, we don't have time to go and babysit all the effects.... I think a lot of people don't realize just how busy we are!
This is awesome!!! Thank you for the breakdown. I’m building mine next year for sure💨💨💨💨
Thank you! And awesome!! I hope it turns out as well for your build! Happy Haunting!
I loved your first video and I've shared it several times. I made one of your first version and have wanted to improve it. Now you've given me additional ideas. I'll just have to get through Christmas first before I get back into Halloween props.
Thanks for the update. I needed a better tote, thanks for the recommendation! Because as I learned it doesn't matter how much weatherstrip you use and then I duck taped the CRAP out of it and it still leaked. It took me forever to take it back apart after the Haunt was shut down. I too bought the stupid expensive float just because I didn't want to mess with it either. $35 is just crazy.
Oh yes! Gorilla tape is my friend. LOL
I, too, would have to tape up all the corners and sides on the lid of the aquarium that I used. Not to mention how freaking heavy the aquarium is empty let alone full of water.
I hope you have good luck with the same toolbox. I wasn't sure how well the gasket would work, but was quite happy with it.
@@intocoasters I want to try something. I check where to get that box, Lowes about $35... I wonder if Homeless Despot has one like it because that store is across the street from me... if not Lowes is not too far away.
@@intocoasters Oh... and I used Gorilla tape that's why is was so freaking hard to pull it off to open it up.
Didja find a similar box?
@@intocoasters Husky brand LOOKS to be similar on line, I need to investigate in person. I don't see a seal around, so no I don't think it will work. Now here's something of an Idea... With the existing LARGE tote that I have... What if I had a smaller plastic box with the water and mister... and put a large garbage bag around that to pump the fog seal around that and then on the other end for the output? Maybe I can save myself $40 bucks and the work already invested, just use a garbage bag on the inside instead of sealing all the stupid leaks? Any ideas? BTW: If you want to collaborate, I'd like to brainstorm with you, let me know!
Thank you for your efforts. I used your ideas and tweaked to my customization.
I'm building one of these this weekend. Thanks for the video!
It's a fun project and the results are awesome. Wind, however, will always be an enemy of this effect
GREAT IDEA! The mister is cooling the fog! You know what you can do to increase the output of that fog machine by 10 times. Ditch the fog fluid and use distilled water and glycerin. 70% glycerin (food grade) and 30% distilled water.
Thank you for the idea! I have been looking at DIY fog juice recently as well.
Who doesn't need a good fog machine? So cool 😎
Exactly! LOL Thank you
Awesomeness!!! Do you happen to have a wiring drawing that shows the 12v transform -> speed controller-> marine blower?
Would love a simple construction tutorial on the new model.
I think this is really cool, and I applaud you sir :-)
Awesome! Thank you!
Thats awesome. I guess its time to update my fog machine
Wow that makes amazing fog. Ingenious, great invention.
Thank you! It has been a fun project. And the results were all I had hoped for. Now if I could find a way to combat the wind from taking it all away!
freeking awesome!! try and wet the yard with water and the fog will stick better.
Thank you! I've heard that before. I might do a test... Make a pattern in the yard to see if anyone can spot the difference between wet and dry grass
Great setup. Awesome work. Could you please share the details on the ultrasonic mister and the power used for it?
It is a 10 head pond fogger that I got from Amazon . it came with a 48-volt supply. I had to add my own wiring and plug, but that wasn't too difficult - just be careful with polarity.
I see other builds use a 12-head pond fogger. I bet the effect is even better!
@@intocoasterswhere did you power the mister from? It looks like the power cord supplies the duplex outlet which just has the small extension cord for the fogger and the fan/speed controller plugged in. I’m not seeing where you powered the mister. I have limited power so I love the idea of only 1 extension cord
@@jeffreysmith9296 Im sorry I forgot to mention how that was wired. I have that power supply wired at the back of the outlet.
The mains power connects to one set of screw terminals on the back of the outlet. Then a short length of wire runs from the other set of screw terminals to the power supply.
I hope this helps!
Can you explain how you have the 110v outlet hooked up? Great build anf demo
Finally got almost all my parts for this and I'm stoked! But I tried to build my own float and failed 🤦♂️ I didn't realize it had to be under water a little bit. How would you go about building a float? I tried pool noodles and small weights.
This is an excellent video!
You could combine all this equipment into an Amazon list, then it would be easy to see it all combined. Thanks for the video!
Have you considered setting a timer of some sort on your fan so it doesn't push all the fog away from the tubing? It would be cool to install some sort of relay that's connected to the fogger.
Thank you for the suggestion. I just learned how to do the links - I figured there was a better way. I'll see if I can figure that out as well.
I had considered a timer - but by the time the show starts, I forget all about it. One of these years I am going to tinker with a timer that is synched to the fog release.
@@intocoasters You just add all those items to a list, make sure it's set to public, then share the link to that list.
Did you cap the end?
Wasn't sure if capping would allow better distribution through the hole. Like an hvac sytem or if it causes issues
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Quick question. What size pipe elbows for the entry section where the fog machine fog goes into the box? They look to be about 3" to me. Also on the output side, they look to be about 4". It looks like the dryer hose is 4" before it gets to the blower. I do believe the blower/fan is 3.5" and then the perforated drain pipe is 4", Did you have to use any adapters or reducers? Just wanted to verify all this before I start buying the pipes. Lastly, In your video you show a duplex outlet inside the control box. But I count 3 connections needed. One for the mister power supply, one for the blower/fan transformer, and one for the small extension for the fogger. Am I confused or did you somehow hard-wire the mister power supply? Thanks again for all the great content.
Excellent questions!
I will try to answer from memory, please forgive any conflicting info.
The pipe elbows are small 45° bends for the one and a half inch pipe. I don't know the size off hand, these were left over from another project.
I can't remember if it's 4" or 4-1/2" on the output of the shower drain. The way I selected it was to carry a dryer hose around hardware store fitting it to different assemblies that had a flange mount. To secure the dryer hose to the output port, I am using a pipe clamp that is meant for dryer hoses.
I think you are correct on the sizes between the bilge fan, the corrugated pipe, and the dryer hose. I do not have any adapters or clamps. I know it's not very professional, but I just kind of stuff the fan into both parts. It seems to do fine so I have not explored making those connections better yet.
I do plan to use insulation foam board to cut my own gaskets for a pressure fit.
Oh! The power supply for the misting unit is hardwired inside the electrical box behind the outlet.
Got it thanks for the explanations. Putting mine together this weekend. Can’t wait, thanks again!
I built a ground fogger similar to yours but a larger scale. I used a large dewalt rolling tool box with a 12 head ultrasonic atomizer. I also run a commercial 1500 watt fog machine and a blower. It works great. Question - does the power supply for the atomizers get really hot being in that box? Mine gets pretty hot and I keep it outside of a box. Just curious
Nice upgrade, glad i can go to lowes and not petrco.. (cause i can get the pipe at the same time) A couple of performance questions. How long can you run the mister with the anoint of water that you can place in the tool box? Do you know the power draw of the mister? and if you had a fog machine with a more robust heating element ,with a very short reheat cycle , could the mister keep up with longer duration smoke activation ?Power is a deal for me as I run 6 smoke machines (with ducting and dry Ice) at my haunt and close to 60 lights and i have to split power all over the house.
I think I would put a cover on the end of the black hose so it gets pushed out the slot better.
That is an excellent idea! I tried to push it up against a tombstone on the night.... it didn't stay.
I have a wiring question. Perhaps I missed this but I've gone over the video many times and taken screen shots.
- a single black extension cord (from the house) comes into the duplex box
- the duplex box has 2 outlets. outlet 1 goes to the orange cord for the fog machine. outlet 2 goes to the fan control which then goes to the fan
- the silver power supply goes to the ultrasonic mister
where does the silver power supply get its power if only a single extension cord comes into the overall box and the duplex box already has both outlets in use? should I just run 2 black extension cords into the overall box or add something to the duplex box so I can get one more plug (for the silver power supply)?
he wired the silver power supply directly to the back of the outlet. I chose to wire the fog machine extention cord to the back of the outlet so I can unplug the fan and the silver power supply.
I'm sure if you did add some ice to the water in the box it would hug the ground even more. I know where I live the heat makes the ice fog chillers not work as great. Phoenix AZ is still warm up to the middle of November.
That would be an interesting test! I may do a before and after someday.
Wow this looks amazing! I am interested in design. Can you also share the shower drain and water proof connector links?
Thank you!
I don't know the details on the shower drain enough to post a link - I'd be afraid of suggesting the wrong one. I took a dryer hose to the plumbing aisle and test fit to different drains to find one that fit the hose.
would you be able to to make a tutorial on how to hook and wire everything up? i dont think id have time to make this for this Halloween but next i would have it ready. you know people who havent wired anything before. i get the main parts like circuit box and shorting the misters cord and such but how did you wire the fan up with speed controller
This is awesome and really cleverly compact! The one thing I'm not clear on is how the fog gets down into the chamber. Is the output spout of the fog machine just spraying the fog stream towards the pvc pipe inlet and the fog just goes in due to the suction from the outlet fan?
Thank you!
When you have the fog machine a couple inches away from the inlet, it creates a Venturi effect from the fog being expelled out of the machine and dragging a ton of air with it.
It kind of creates its own Flow by doing. If the vent fan is not running, a small amount of fog that has not yet chilled will come back out of the inlet pipe.
The bilge fan does help a little, but it's not necessary as you might notice in the beginning of the video before I added the fan.
Ibet if you capped off the end of the black tubing, it would give you more fog coming out along the whole length of the black tube presenting a better fog blanket
I like that idea. I'm gonna try it next time I set it up. In the past I had a tombstone in front of the port to deflect the fog sideways. But I'm interested to see how it behaves with the port blocked. Thanks for the suggestion!
How did you solve the heating problem? The mister and the fogger heat the water and fog up pretty good over time and eventually prevents the fog from laying low
Did you place the fan at the end of the dryer tube for a reason? The reason I ask is that I would like to have my output branch of to a set of 3 small grave stones that spit out the fog as well as the 4” irrigation tube. I was thinking of using a “Y” connector to split the fog and having that right after the fan. I am using a 1000 fogger.
Thank you, I did not have a reason for the fan placement. I guess laziness? I didn't want to have to figure out how to mount the fan on the box. It turns out to be convenient really. I can easily move the hose and fan without having to move the chest full of water.
That splitter seems like it would work. When I have an idea like that, I just start testing different setups - to see which one will give me the best results.
This is really cool. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Can you clarify what the misting unit is; if it’s pre-make maybe the link to find one?
Do you have an instruction video on the "control box" power supply ,duplex outlet, transformer, speed controller?
Also wondering if you have links to the items you used?
I did not make a video of the control box as I didn't think it was interesting enough to talk about it in depth. The speed controller is a 12V motor speed control board. The misting unit and power supply were purchased together as a kit. When I go to my orders to grab the link I get a page that says "no longer available". I did grab the link for the bilge fan. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Most of the other parts are from other projects thru the years and I wouldn't know where I got a lot of them.
I didn't think this video would bring as many comments as it has. I've learned that I need to track parts and offer a list for future projects!
I'll be making one of rhese this week. I'll have to make a video of it.
I look forward to seeing your build! Subscribed to your channel.
@@intocoasters My video is live!
getting this video just in time for halloween!
Cool! I hope it helps!
Fascinating - all looks very enterprising 👍🏼 Can you mix lawn feed with the water?
That is an innovative question. LOL. But I would not. I imagine that would not be good to breathe.
Hi, how did you connect the power supply for the fan and the fan controller board together? So the controller operates the fan?
@@willyscreation The controller board has 12 volt input, and a variable 12 volt output. I connect the 12 volt power supply to the input of the controller board, and the fan gets connected to the output of the controller board. I hope this makes sense
Thank you
Awesome beard my man!
Thanks man! You as well!
I have been wanting to make one of these out of either a Packout dolly, or one of those giant husky totes, cause I wanna put 2 or even 3 ultra sonic fighters in there, and my big fog machine.
I bet that would be amazing!!! I would love to see the results!!
Very cool setup
Thank you!
Can you show what it’s like with only the fog with the fan on through the black tube? Then with only the mister and the fan on with the black tube?
If you go to 5:10 in the video, I run only water vapor for a bit.
I do not have any video of only fog with the fan, but that really doesn't act much differently then a fog machine by itself.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I was hoping to see how the mister look’s coming out of the black tube without the fog. Either way I’ll be heading out to buy that tube to distribute my fog. Great idea!
@@degan9403 oh! I misunderstood! Yeah, this weekend I can set up a demonstration with just the fog through the black tube and then just the mist through the black tube.
It's likely not going to be until Saturday.
Great job. Looks good
Thank you!
What size inlet and outlet on that blower? I think I'm going to redo mine to incorporate some of the new mister ideas out there.
I believe it is a 3" inlet.
If this link works, it's the one I ordered.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think I’m missing something, how does this work? What is making the fog lay so low?
How long does the water last before you have to fill it again as you are running the mist?
Does humidity outside have any noticeable effect? Out in Florida our Halloween nights are usually so humid the grass is completely wet. I would think that would make it easier to get this effect but I’m always fighting with my chiller (ice in a bucket style and fog directly hits ice). I don’t get nearly as much coverage as you even with a 1000w fogger running froggy’s bog fog. Think I might experiment with this a bit for next year
It might help it actually. I can't really remember when I test it in the humid days versus Halloween night. The real big factor is wind. Even the slightest breeze will turn low lying fog into fly away fog. Happened this year... the wind was about 6 MPH all evening... no low lying fog effect outside. Let us know how it goes if you build it!
I’m making a Roberts Fogger this year and am super excited! I bought the 10 head mister but am wondering about the float. I’m a super novice when it comes to stuff. Do I need a float for the mister or can I just plunk the mister into the bottom of the “chiller box”?
Hi! thank you! And I can't wait to hear about your build.
The simple answer is, yes, you should definitely use a float.
There is an optimum depth for the misting unit to function properly. As fog passes through and leaves the chiller, it will bring a lot of the water vapor out with it. This will lower your water height. Eventually the misting unit will stop functioning with a water level drops too low.
The float will allow you to have a deeper chamber of water while maintaining the proper operating depth.
The missing unit will not work at all if there is too much water above it. Again, that's where the float is helpful.
I really hope this helps. And wishing you awesome luck for your build!
@@intocoasters Thank you for that informative reply! You explained it so I could understand right away why a float will be good to have! I’ve been watching so many of your videos! Thank you for sharing your builds with all of us! Your Roberts fogger is awesome and your video is shared in many Facebook Halloween groups!
Are your pvc fittings 2"? And whst size is the drain you used on the outlet side? Thanks for the awesome setup!
All the small pipe is 1.5". But 2" would work. I was using whatever pieces I had left over from other projects.
The outlet piece is a shower drain. I think it was 4 inches or four and a half inch.
I was in home Depot and had a dryer hose just see what drains it would fit on, and which drains had a flange for mounting. Unfortunately, I do not know the model number
And thank you!
Thanks for replying! I built one very similar, using yours as a base..
@@inkedspider1 awesome! I hope it works well ! If you have video, I'd love to see your build.
So if it's only using water, would it be safe to assume this would cause a slipping hazard if I use this indoors on a dancefloor on the assumption that it would make the floor more humid?
That may be correct. What I have noticed is condensation collects close to the outlet. It might be okay if the outlet is not near where people will be walking/dancing.
I would recommend testing this first. Since I only use this outside, I'm not sure of its indoor behavior.
Got mine all set up last night, and my fog just won't lie down (comes out looking like yours for a split second then starts to rise and wander off). Was there zero wind in this video? We live about 3 miles from the coast and there is a 4 knot onshore breeze right now, so even though it feels still at our house, it must not be. Wondering if that's my main issue.
That is an impressive cover of low-lying fog without the usual "vortex" and other ice-based chillers out there. I probably still have a few of my modified coolers with the metal mesh on a raised PVC frame but you always ended the night with so much ice wasted - so much water everywhere - so much rock salt to make the ice colder - not easily portable - the trash-can fog chillers were great but still a huge non-portable mass and the same issues with the residual water that was wasted. I love that this has no ice at all yet gets phenomenal results. Obviously it was a still night when you filmed this, and yet I can still see the immediate benefits for overall haze/fog even if there's a breeze.
What's your water consumption per hour with the US mister heads?
How much time can you run on one fill of the main box before the floats get too low for the US mister to have water over it (i.e. what's the "set it and forget it" time)?
Do you find different results depending on the fog juice used, or does the type of juice bear less relevance with the US mister and the vent fan?
Danke! well done - great ideas!
I can tell you've been there too. Man, I hated relying on ice. Yes, it's inexpensive, but still another thing I had to babysit. And it NEVER lasted an entire night. Ice is great when fresh, but the performance drops as the night goes on.
And yeah, I was blessed with still air while filming this. That is not a common occurrence there.
Water consumption is surprisingly low. I have to refill the fog machine before I have to do anything with the water. I could probably get 3 to 4 nights out of the water tank. But I empty it every night to keep the water for growing gross.
I haven't done a comprehensive study on fog types, but they do seem similar. I like the fog that has staying power, like swamp juice from Froggy's Fog. However, I still see great results with the cheap Walmart/Target stuff as well.
What fan do you use for the set up? I ordered one off Amazon, and it only lasted a week. It died the night before Halloween, so I wasn't able to use a fan for Halloween night. 😭😭
@@DJCappy-zh1hl oh man, that is a bummer when a part fails just before Halloween. That's happened to me on some other effects.
For this setup I am using a 12 volt bilge fan I got from Amazon. So far, it's been fairly reliable. It's noisier than I would like. But then again so is a fog machine
Thumbs-up for the epic beard!!
Why thank you, kind bearded Sir!
Hey what is the waterproof connector you have mounted in the lid of the box? You don’t have it in your supply list thanks
Good catch! Thank you.
I added it to the list, should be the second item.
@@intocoasters thank you sir! Just received everything in the mail except the connector. Gonna start building tomorrow!
@@michaelchyles sweet! Best of luck with the build!
I'd love to see the finished project.
So this is using a mister instead of burning fog juice correct? This lays lower than even the dry ice fig machine I have, im fascinated with this but I cant believe it still.
It's still heats fog juice, that happens in the fog machine sitting on top of the unit. Once the hot fog comes out of your standard fog machine it then runs through the chamber that's filled with mist. The fog particles cling on to the water vapor and there's some thermal energy transfer when this happens which both cools it down and makes it heavier. At least that's how I understand how it works. Thanks for watching!
Wait, you're a magician?! That's awesome!
What does the fog machine do in combination with the pond mister? How does the fog coming from the fog machine stay low?
@@c0pyimitati0n I have heard lots of different information, I'll try to consolidate how I understand it. Hopefully someone will correct me if I get something wrong.
When fog fluid gets heated up, the water in the fluid turns to steam and shatters the glycol into tiny particles. The fog that comes out isn't smoke, it's atomized glycol I believe.
Apparently, glycol easily bonds with water molecules. When the hot fog enters the chamber with the watermist, there is so much atomized water that the glycol easily bonds to the water vapor. This bonding process allows thermal transfer from the glycol molecules to the water. So I guess that cools it down. But now you're increasing the size of the particle suspended in air which might make them heavy enough to not rise.
That's the super simplified method of how I understand this works.
If anyone reading this can add to the explanation, that would be great!
Happy haunting!
@@intocoasters very interesting!! Thanks for the quick reply. Just picked up a 1000w fog machine from Party City with a double coupon for $43 shipped!! Can't wait to have low lying fog for my graveyard this year.
Dang, that's a killer deal! I'd love to hear how it works out. Beware.... Wind is a huge enemy for outside fog.
@@intocoasters it was $100 originally and a big step up from my cheap 400w machine
I plan on putting some frozen water bottles inside the corrugated tubing to hopefully help keep the fog lower.
Big ups on the awesome video!
@@intocoasters
Nice post, I was just looking for answers on those regarding the fog and mister.
Do you know if it causes the mister pads to get mucked up from glycol getting on the water?
It was better IMHO before you added the black hose, it really was great 🎃👍!
I agree. I am thinking of different way to distribute the fog that has several large outlets rather than a long pipe of small holes.
Thanks for watching!
looks good without the corrugated tube imo
I don't disagree. I'm thinking of changing the tube to something else. Maybe flatten the tube. Maybe just a wide slotted box at the fan's output.
Outstanding setup. However, I really wish you had provided web links to everything you purchased, rather than vague search terms. That way we'd know what sizes, manufacturer, models, etc... of the fan, the power supply, the ultrasonic mister, and things like that. I can't tell if you're using a 3 inch or a 4 inch duct fan, If it's a marine bilge fan, or if it's a dryer duct fan. All of that info would have been extremely helpful. Otherwise, great video.
Thank you! And I wish I had tracked all the purchases along the way too - I didn't expect this project to be as well received as it has been. I sourced the parts from Amazon and from AliExpress mostly. Then some parts from the hardware store.
Coincidently, I had looked up the fan and have the link here. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019MJ5VHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I hope it works.
The silver hose is in fact a dryer hose, but he black pipe is a corrugated irrigation pipe that has a slot cut into the sides.
Unfortunately I cant pull up any page for the misting unit as it shows "no longer available"
The other parts are some plumbing and electrical from past projects that could've come from anywhere.
Maybe I have missed the "equipment" list.. but is there a list of parts/items so that can go out and purchase what you have built? It just looks awesome
😀😀😀
Thank you! This video was a follow up as to how I am housing the unit. The original teardown/explanation video is ruclips.net/video/o5M-YbGWf4g/видео.html I describe the parts and how I used them. You will see a circulation pump in that video that I have since replaced with a float.
this video is old now so i probably will not get a reply. but I wanted to know if you could ditch the fogger and just pour fog juice into the red tub and let the pond mister do all the work? have a 30L mix of water and fog juice?
No, fog / smoke fluid requires heat to create smoke
Super cool. Glad to see you kept iterating on your original idea. How much moisture do you get collecting on the floor if you run this indoors?
Thank you!
I get quite a lot right where the flexible duct and fan meet. Then a little along the length of the rigid tube. Not as much as where the fan is however.
I would not let guests walk near the fan junction as it would be slippery. It's water vapor and some of the glycol that condensed. So it's slippery.
Hello, I'm new to the DIY foggers and not very knowledgeable. Are there exact instructions I can follow? Thank you! Happy haunting 🎃
Looks great awesome job thanks
Thank you!!
New to this. What fogger do you use?
Hi and welcome to your new addiction. LOL
Typically I use a 1000 watt fog machine from Spirit Halloween. I have used a 900 watt machine from AFX and cheap 400 watt machines from department/hardware stores.
I have had awesome results from all of them with this set-up.
Ask a dozen people what the best fog machine is and be prepared to get a dozen different answers.
It comes down to what features you want. For example manual trigger vs timed auto trigger, built in fluid tank vs removable tank, wireless trigger vs wired, cost, etc.
Typically the higher the wattage, the more cubic feet of fog that can be delivered per second. And depending on your needs, there can be too much fog.
Hope this info helps!
This is brilliant.
Thank you so much!
Sometimes a foggy idea is a good thing.
Lol, I guess sometimes it's good not to clear your head before doing a project, huh?
@@intocoasters Inspiration comes when it does.
Just curious, how fast does the ultrasonic misters go thru water? I'm thinking of trying this but using a separate plastic tub for the misters but don't want to have to keep filling it non stop.
I can refill the fog machine twice before I run out of water. I actually have never run it long enough to run out. I end up changing the water after a day or two to keep it fresh.
This is my project next year for sure. Tired of getting the ice box system to not work every year. Is there a video where you happen to have the materials listed out in writting or anything?
I do have a video that shows the initial construction and testing. Search for Roberts Fogger if this link doesn't work ruclips.net/video/o5M-YbGWf4g/видео.html
@@intocoasters Thanks, Ive watched it. Was hoping for a list to search up the names of the items. But ill have to just go back thru and listen better :P
@@TheXerosyn Ah! Sorry. The parts are:
10-head pond fogger (Amazon)
48V power supply (AliExpress)
Float for the pond fogger (Amazon)_
12V in-Line Bilge Air Blower (Amazon)
12V PWM motor controller (AliExpress)
Then various hoses/pipes and a Craftsman Versastack tool chest.
Hope this helps.
@@intocoasters is the 48V power supply for the pond fogger? i see a bunch of foggers on amazon with power supplies included
@@mint7388 yes. It's only for the fogger.
perfect for laying pit traps under the fog
@@Nathaniel215 remind me not to walk through your yard on a foggy night. Lol
What are your outdoor temperatures when using this? We are often wearing jackets when I would run one with temps around 45-50 F.
I have tested in warm weather, around 70F as well as the mid 40s. It seems to work better in the warm weather. I guess the greater temp difference between the fog and air help keep the fog laying low.
@@intocoasters Thank you for the confirming my suspicions. Yes, the difference in air temperature does come into play. Unfortunately I will apparently need to continue using an ice based system outside in colder weather in order to keep the fog at ground level.