1979 Canadian Federal Election Debate
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May 13, 1979
1979 Federal Leaders' Debate
Pierre Elliott Trudeau
Ed Broadbent
Joe Clark
Canadian Federal Election 1979
31st Canadian general election
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Three very intelligent men debating at a high level of sophistication. Absolutely puts our present-day debates to shame. And the best part: they actually answer each other's questions!
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the internet created more readers
honda custom....created more readers.....perhaps.....but the content they are reading is far poorer......and if the content is decent....like many online newspapers....they are no longer free.......
Yes what was wrong with this? Why are people less intelligent and mature now days? I don't know about the other 2 guys but Pierre did not seem to raise HIS son very well at least not for politics I don't even think Justin wants the job why else is he intentionally sabotaging things?
@@AnnaLVajda Considering that Pierre, for all his intellect, was a terrible PM, I'd have a hard time believing his son would be any better.
You want to see another highly civil debate? Look no further than the race for the CPC leadership: ruclips.net/video/eFNNtRMi5Q0/видео.html.
So civilized! Let's turn the clock back and relive that era.
Three amazing politicians. Everyone so cool and calm. You can tell they all respect each other. Nowadays they all just yell at each other
The special rapporteur before he disgraced himself.
Holy crap that's the Governor General moderating...
+Ryan Rambling That is amazing how time move all these people forward and into our perspective history
When i heard David Johnston, i was like, isnt that name farmiliar? Then i realized it was the GG
+TheHaibao123 he's 37 years old in this video
Holy crap that's the Governor General actually do something lol
@@thomasj0007 how can he be 37!! he looks 50 already
Now this is a debate. Respectful, honourable, intelligent and articulate. It puts a shame to all that we have witnessed recently. We have much to learn by re-listening to this and by demanding that our leaders listen, respect, not interrupt but debate for the strength of each to emerge and not their weaknesses.
This debate shows that we are getting dumber.
Yup, or just a few smarter people used to vote. They don't try to over yell each other either. Well maybe still just a bit. Opposite is true of turnout: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_Canada
In a way, yes, but compared to other countries nowadays not really I mean politics in the U.S is just stupid
No youre getting more socialist !
@@thomaspaine1815 Isn't getting more socialist is getting dumber?
@@canuck21 Socialism is slavery !So anyone that supports is, as Stalin said a useful idiot ..
"if i can come in at this point"...."absolutely" i love that
A real Canadian debate. Lmao.
Gosh I miss these old school politicians......the standard of debate was so much higher.......still the same tripe, but it was done with so much greater class......
Who else is watching after the 6 leaders debate
Watching after the 2019 Election.
@@sunnysalmon5757who else is back here after the mess that was the 2021 debate where you saw leaders talk over each other and offer no policy substance?
they spoke in natural (and intelligent) English. they also stayed on course with arguments based on their principles rather than jumping around trying to say what they think people want to hear. substance instead of cheap shots and "clever" retorts that in fact say nothing.
Talk is cheap...and you are easily manipulated by TV.
Trudeau the commie traitor...may he rot in Hell for eternity for what he did to Canada.
M.r. Moon
seeing it's 38 years later and Canada is still standing . your remarks mean nothing
Thanks for the upload. These old debates are amazingly better speakers and leaders than the currently three major parties.
None of the politicians of today are capable of matching the skill and articulation of these extraordinary men. Excellent debate, thanks for posting it!
Refreshing to see a good solid debate with three fine Canadians with tremendous respect for each other. Thanks for uploading.
Trudeau? Fine? Lolol
You mean 2 fine Canadians and one snake.
Canuck Politics........Thanks for posting all of these Canadian Federal Leader's debates from all of the election years.
outstanding debate! What in heavens name happened to Canadian politics in the last 35 years! Oh the humanity! :D
+RideMyTruck the difference in level of insight and candidness is astounding.
Kevin Choi titans of our time...unfortunately these dudes would eventually be steam rolled by Mulroneys Free Trade deal
+RideMyTruck Yeah because Mulroney was the architect behind the whole thing. Pretty sure the U.S designed it.
+Rod Falcon .. Mulroney was the 'bag man' (literally).
what if junior, two years down the road, pulls up our economic numbers and realizes "holy sh$#!!! the budget DID balance itself!"
The Governor General looking mighty young! But weren't we all looking young in '79?! LOL
+Barbara Mitchell he's 38 years old here and he looks like he has grey hair.
+Kelvin Chan 37 actually....unbelievable!
I was 16 in 1979.
Governor General is useless
I was a newborn.
Crazy how similar the issues in 1979 are to what we're dealing with in 2021
Lol back then you had to be economically nationalist or else you would be thrown into the fire like Mulroney was.
This is absolutely fascinating to see a real debate for once. Honestly, I've never seen one xD
At 36 years of age, Joe Clark was the youngest leader of a political party in Canada.
Yes, Mr. Clark was 36 (born in June 1939) when he was narrowly elected as the PC leader (over Quebec's Claude Wagner) in February 1976. Interestingly, he turned 40 just one day after being sworn in as the new Canadian Prime Minister.
CLASS. ALL of the candidates.....CLASS. Respect. & CLASS. example, 48:00 to 53:00 No interruptiing the other, allowing each other to speak. CLASS. ALL of them.
I miss joe clark. I'm a dyed in the wool ndp'er but the guy had serious integrity. He even takes legit criticism in stride wthout going in for personal attacks.
+RXdash78
It's important for people to watch these old debates. It's important that we remember what Canada looked like before. The first step to being enslaved is separation from one's own history.
Debates were about ideas back then, and people were honest and upfront about what they believed.
+Sam Cole well said.
I was proud to support Mr. Clark on four ballots at the 1983 convention, and went down with the ship.....Canada, I think, would be a lot better off today if Mr. Clark had been able to return as PM.....but as we know from the latest election, style over substance wins everytime....
It would difficult to find someone who doesn't like Clark... His fault was to be too young when he led the PC. He's a great man.
Back then it was Progressive Conservatives. Clark was a "red" Tory as were many of the now defunct political party. Peter McKay among others sold out the PC's to the Reform/Alliance to what we have today. Clark was akin to Robert Stanfield in attitude, intelligence and integrity. Yes, I miss those days too.
I am an ethnic minority whose parents immigrated from South Africa in 1968. I was born in Scarborough, Ontario in 1973. A few tears came to eyes watching this debate. That was during my childhood...
I remember this debate. I was 15 years old. I could have voted for any of these men. The debate was informed, intelligent and respectful. It made you think about the issues. Not the vacuous babble we get today.
Quel débat civilisé. Trois grands politiciens canadiens
Wddectivement , depaasse les minions que nous connaissons de nos jours
Who could have guessed at this time there are two Prime Ministers and a Governor General of Canada in this debate.
+regszikora ps I did not mention Broadbent another of those that could be well considered one of the great politicians of our time.
sort of embarrassed that I have to ask this, but is this the same David Johnston - Governor General David Johnston?
Not embarrassing at all, and to answer your question yes that is in fact The Right Honourable David Johnson.
why thank-you!
What a downgrade we got in 2019.
And in 2021, lol.
I liked all three of them. Joe Clark was a Red Tory ... a true Progressive Conservative. Many people forget that Stephen Harper did not come from the Progressive Conservative Party, but from the Reform Party, which was extremely right wing. Mulroney was also a Red Tory. Not many Red Tories left today.
+Apocalypse Plough peter mckay?
*****
Yeah, he'd be one, but he isn't an MP anymore. He voted for same-sex marriage, I know that.
I'm a life-long NDPer, but you couldn't pay me enough to vote for the Manitoba NDP in Tuesday's election. They have destroyed this province. Red Tories are socially progressive but fiscally conservative. I have no problem with that.
Apocalypse Plough indeed...tbh, i dont care which partys gets in office, depends on the person running it...and people too...
Brain Mulroney is more Conservative than Clark. Nevertheless, Harper took a much more further than both of them.
Mr. Know Itall LMAO, you need to take political science and history 101
Broadbent's was the best opening statement.
0:15 - Yes, the Moderator is the David Johnston who eventually became Governor General of Canada. Rewatching this reminds me of why he was such an excellent pick as GG especially considering recent events.
Canadian election debate is so kind which is part of Canadian tradition which I find it morel polite and very intelligent then more recent election.
Such intelligence, eloquence from all these men. Puts the present day debate to shame. Not to mention how well dressed and well put together they were. Also so respectful and polite. we have left it all behind for the worst.
Joe Clark was the youngest prime minister of Canada to take office at the age of 39 years and was also the youngest prime minister of Canada to leave office at the age of 40 years.
Fantastic to watch this. Articulate speakers.
I remember seeing this debate on TV when I was 15
all 3 candidates are so far left of the contemporary political center
Pierre Elliott Trudeau won the popular vote in five Canadian federal elections in 1968, in 1972, in 1974, in 1979 and in 1980. Pierre Elliott Trudeau won seats in 1968, in 1972, in 1974 and in 1980 and lost seats only in 1979.
As a country, we HAVE to get back to this level of sober, respectful, civilized, intelligent public debate and away from petty, partisan, unexamined, and shrill political behaviour.
What a kick seeing a younger David Johnston too!
Trudeau's sometimes offhand manner betrays underneath a very serious politician who could convey his policy and ideas in a very articulate and persuasive manner. His success in politics was not an accident. He also paid a very high price for it. There is much to be learned by Hong Kong people in our quest for democracy even though we are under a very different set of limitations.
Turdo was a great bullshitter
I am confused. Did he not throw the country into huge debt, like his weasel son?
@@Oxatolla Yes, you are confused. Did not every country at the time "throw the country into huge debt", just like every country during the pandemic? If you were knowledgeable and honest, you would also mention that Mulroney threw the country into huger debt.
This should be required viewing for anyone who sat through the US Presidential debate last night between Trump & Biden. If you haven't been gently lulled to sleep by the end, at the very least it will reduce your anxiety by orders of magnitude! 😂
What’s happened since 1979 when politicians could calmly discuss and debate an issue without putting each other down? The tone in our debates today is so much angrier, it seems.
"encounter '79" sounds so much hotter than what it really was
You're thinking of encounter 69
lukafafrenz only the CBC lol
How many minutes for cross checking?
Pierre Elliott Trudeau's son Justin Trudeau became the second-youngest prime minister of Canada at the age of 43 years after Joe Clark who was 39 and who defeated Pierre Elliott Trudeau, the father of Justin Trudeau himself. Therefore Justin Trudeau became the second-youngest prime minister of Canada at 43 years after Joe Clark, the man who defeated the father of Justin Trudeau, Pierre Elliott Trudeau.
1:11:00 Took until 2015...
Amazed this was mentioned 37 years ago, holy shit.
It's 2017 and still nothing has happened.
I always checked everything I bought in a city of Toronto making sure 💯% materials and last longer for the future of life. Today,rain in the house changed my life?
Joe Clark won seats only in the 1979 Canadian federal election or Joe Clark won only the 1979 Canadian federal election for prime minister of Canada. Joe Clark won a minority of seats and formed a minority government.
There is no election for prime minister.
lol funny seeing David Johnston as he's now GG
Pierre Trudeau and Joe Clark actually respected each other. Trudeau expressed his sympathy for Clark in his memoirs. Clark attended Trudeau's funeral in 2000, and he was visibly moved by Justin Trudeau's story of being rebuked by the elder Trudeau for having made fun of an opponent of Prime Minister Trudeau (possibly or probably he referred to Clark).
Well informed and well presented 👏
Wow I loved three of them, one thing I really really liked is how they were respectful to each other 🇨🇦❤️ not like the election in 2019
If we could come up with a blend f the three Canada would be a leader in the world mediocrity seemed to be the currency of today
Born on 5 June 1939, Joe Clark is younger than five of his successors: Pierre Elliott Trudeau, John Turner, Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin and Brian Mulroney. Therefore Joe Clark is younger than the largest number of his successors which is 5. So in this case 5 is the largest number by which Joe Clark is younger than some of his successors.
Excellent debating! We need to get these debating skills ba k.
33:02
Clark: We will be governing as if though we have a majority.
Trudeau: *Thats the dumbest thing I’ve heard today, no way it’ll last a year. And god forbid a Liberal Premier will ever try doing something like that within the next 40 years*
Broadband: *We’ll get a no confidence vote to pass by Christmas*
"The public will check it tomorrow."
Was this not live?
What a great debate, back then people talked about issues, respected each other's opinions, even if they were different from theirs. Nowadays, we have the intolerance coming mainly from the left, but also a bit from the right. They think if you have a different opinion then you're a racist, sexist, homophobic and all that
Sr was such a great speaker and pm. Jr must have gotten all his mothers traits
+madman6041 lol He's leading in the polls you know.
CDM_Enigma Not for long.
Nah he got his father's traits...... Mick jager!,
@@betterthansex123💀💀💀💀
As an American, I appreciate the informative discourse in this grouping. All three gentlemen were great statesmen. And now my country has lame debaters like Donald Trump.
DRUMPF = "lame" debater ? Dude, youre at the gates of TOTAL American fascism.
if there is a correlation that indicates the worse a debater you are, the better president you are, then i for one am happy president trump is a bad debater. and i sincerely hope he doesn't sharpen his debating skills. his policies both domestic and foreign have been outstanding. in fact they've been so successful that it makes one look backward at his predecessors and look at them with real pity. they achieved nothing relative to what he has accomplished in just a year and a half.
Says John Doe lol go back to Moscow man
Tristan Hayward, come on man, if you disagree with me then make your case. i'll be happy to engage with you on the issues. i'll even reserve the right, as all intelligent men do, to change my mind if you make a compelling argument. and i would expect you to take the same risk. that's what debate and discussion are for. but to call me a russian troll is to leave the field without even having made the effort. come on, which of the presidents policies are so egregious that you are so offended beyond measure? i'm a big boy, i can take it. what's your problem with his policies?
John Doe I rescind my earlier comment, it was quite harsh. Though, to be fair, you were saying a few things that sounded to me like a typical Russian prop or satire of some kind. Unfortunately I'm not the one to debate with you, certainly not in the RUclips comments and not in the dead of night on my phone. Good luck in your future endeavors and hopefully we will eventually see eye to eye.
Pretty tame debates back then in 1979 .
The post literate age now compared to debates today obsession with sound bites
That's no stage; they are debating on a massive cat scratching tree
Joe Clark lost the popular vote twice to Pierre Elliott Trudeau in 1979 and in 1980.
Oh look a civilized debate.
Awesome!
the class displayed by these three men is sorely missed even if one wasn't moved to vote for either of them. that said if I had to vote i'd cast a vost for Ed Broadbent and I think when Trudeau and Clark were 'sparring' I think the moderator could've intervened more to make sure they stuck to the topic, because after awhile i think i was lost and wondered if the Canadian public at the time could've followed well what they were arguing about. I take it this was the end of the Trudeau charm or the beginning of the end? well thanks a lot for posting this, this along with the other debates is pure gold for any history buff or political junkie.
Watch the knives come out when Trudeau and Clark are up against each other
Crikey, remember when political debates were actually intelligent? yeah.. I miss that... this happened when I was a kid.
4:55 sound familiar?
Joe Clark lost the popular vote thrice in three Canadian federal elections in 1979, in 1980 and in 2000.
Whatever happened to intelligent political debate? Twitter, FB, soundbite TV...
Up to date some multicultural changed 18 to 28?
I hate alcohol, drugs and cigarettes. Indeed I love my health.
joe who? i remember that quote...those were the days, late seventies, best days of my life, things have sure changed.
I raised both eyebrows when the future GG was the moderator....
trudeau in 1979!
trudeau in 2015!!!
history repeats itself correctly!!!
+LadyScorpio39 Trudeau lost in 79.
+LadyScorpio39 It should be see if he can beat his father on how much debt can be accumulated
but he served again from 80-84. needless point. the point is he served for nearly 14 years all total, so canadians must have liked something he did.
LadyScorpio39 He pandered to the East, simple as that. That is where all the votes come from. His policy's he enacted were only illusions that he was doing a good job for the east. We are paying dearly now for his debt, and multicultural propaganda.
LadyScorpio39
Yes, he was PM from 80-84 and yes perhaps a needless point however your comment implied he won in '79. Just a knee jerk correction on my part I guess.
Wow that's the GG now! He was so young there.
1:20:55 Joe Clark talking about moving The Canadian Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem already in 1979.
Cool how you could sit in these debates
"Mr. Clark, If you'll please excuse me but..." Oh my gosh, these debaters are so cordial. Too bad this virtue has come and gone, apparently a long time ago :(
Like I wanna watch a 1:55 minute political debate on RUclips ...no sir! 😁
OMG - how young they were ...
Notice how freakishly polite and cordial people could be at one time? What planet was this?
these debates are conducted at a noticeably higher level of detail, and assumed attention span. are people getting dumber or are politicians just getting more adept?
I watched the US 2016 Republican debates. As all the candidates did was argue with each other. Trump picked on Jeb. I watched the candidate debates between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. The only interesting remark that came from these debates was from Trump when he said to Hillary "BECAUSE YOUD BE IN JAIL".
Ed Broadbent is often touted as having been a strong debater. I find he makes a lot of assumptions and over simplifications that haven't stood up over time.
Funny hearing Ed Broadbent talking about the benefit to Canada by owning a crown Corp Petro Canada.. And the new NDP leader hates oil and gas
Trudeau is just so smug, won't admit to any mistakes whatsoever.
Wow, Similar to the 2019 Election.
Wonder how many of us had colour T.V’s ? Seems like yesterday but is so long ago...
brilliant man, I am in love
Thanks for posting. I do not agree with the deficits Pierre Elliott Trudeau piled up. I did not agree with very many of his policies. However, it's a pleasure to watch Mr. Trudeau being the great orator that he was.
Wow there taking about the same stuff we talk about today
What are the ghost voices
Im doing a presnatation and a speech about joe clark. I need to know bad things about joe clark. can soemone tell me some things that joe clark could of done when he was president or what joe clark did wrong?! please i need someones help!
No charisma
This should be mandatory viewing for Trudeau Jr., May, Mulcair, M Traitor, and The Right Honourable Swine Harper.
I have never and will never vote Conservative, but even Joe Clark would be a better PM than most of the candidates over the past years since Mulroney ruined this country.
+Julian Smith Pretty sure Trudeau watched every piece of footage of his 'daddeh' :P
Brian Valta Obviously.
+Julian Smith Joe Clark's (and John Diefenbaker's) party doesn't exist anymore. What poses as Conservative is actually the ultra-right-wing Canadian Alliance of Preston Manning. A far cry from the true Conservatives.
True. There was an interview with Joe Clark from London last night after the Liberals had been declared winners, and Mr. Clark still sounded nothing like today's modern Conservatives.
+Julian Smith - some of the now defunct PC's in Canada were 'Red Tory' (Clark was more Centrist) but they did oppose the merger with the Alliance. Voters were fooled into believing they were dealing with the Conservatives (some still are), when actually they were wolves in sheep's clothing. While Harper comes from Alberta, he has little if nothing in common with the late (former) Alberta Premier Peter Lougheed (PC), but more with the founder of the Reform/Alliance Party, Preston Manning ( the son of The right-wing Alberta Social Credit Party leader and former Alberta Premier Ernest Manning). Harper became leader of the Alliance (formerly Reform) in 2002. Peter MacKay, succeeding Joe Clark as leader of the PC in 2003 sold out to Harper's Alliance and thus the 'new' Conservative Party came into being, but this had little resemblance to the old-style Conservatives. In 2004, those old-style Conservatives founded the Progressive Party of Canada, but are no more than a blip on the political landscape. Also, google David Orchard, who was a opponent to that merger with the Alliance. He later became a Liberal.
It's kind of interesting that Justin is taking pages from the old man's playbook. Hey Federal Conservatives, Mellissa Lantsman make note of this.
Remember when politicians spoke to men not housewives
Then the moderator becomes Governor-General
We went from this. To John Fetterman lmao. What is happening to politics?
If they had included Socred (9 seats at the time of the debate) leader Fabien Roy, he would've shit the bed too.
Only if we had people like these today the are ten times better then the people running for PM now ;(