Honda XL750 Transalp: Ride Test & Accessory Pricing
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2023
- Explore the Honda XL750 Transalp in our comprehensive review!
🏍️ Join us at the Australian press launch for a 300km ride on varied terrains. Gain detailed insights into initial impressions, bike features, accessory pricing, and its competitive standing in the adventure twin market. Discover the untapped potential for tough off-road adventures with the right modifications.
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The sump seems to be carefully engineered to ensure maximum damage and/or complete destruction in the event of a hit. This was the absolute first thing I noticed when I saw the bike.
Certainly different
Great way to upsell the bash plate.
@@IRQ1Conflict well no actually, because non oem will be a third of the price
But nobody rides seriously off road without a bashplate on any bike, so I don't think the sump shape makes any difference anyway.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV please compare the welds between the v Strom and the Transalp. The welds are perfect on the v Strom and on the Transalp I test road it had a very bad quality. This bike feels too budget from top to bottom.
Very realistic and grounded first look, highlighting some of the very real pricing choices faced by a new owner. Not many channels are quite as real about it as you fellas. 👏🏻.
Thank you we appreciate the feedback.
I'm in Henderson Nevada - have had the TransAlp on order at Malcom Smiths Dealership since last November. Jealous you get to test one out. I've seen many review videos out of Europe. Your team always gives the best real-world use reviews. Love MAD tv! Thank you!
Thank you for the compliment.
Thanks for the preliminary review, for 90 percent of Adventure riders the bike will be great.
Strongly agree. A very comfortable bike capable of punching out big miles and exploring most dirt roads.
These kind of videos make me happy to be alive. So just so exiting when a new bikes comes out.
I get the same feeling
Best review I've seen yet. If anyone is going to push a bike, it's going to be Aussies. This bike is perfect for me since I'm not a hard-core off roader. I do live on sandy dirt roads though. Great job. Thanks.
Thank you.
Randomly sat on one this morning. Looks great in real life.
Yes they are very comfortable and look good.
side-by-side it looks much cheaper than crf1100, and honda build quality isn’t exactly stellar to begin with
You guys are killing it!
Thank you. Spread the word.
The Transalp was and is primarily intended for the European market. As such it's perfect for European riding conditions. I'm sure I agree with the reviewers that to make a competent adventure bike would take some upgrades, however it's still a positive because the basic bike CAN get you there, and has the potential for more.
we don't have that kind of "perfect european riding conditions"... we have a lot of roads that are full of mud, long rides of a mix of gravel and deep sand and rocky sections... what we don't have is ultra high temperatures except of august at 35-40 on some areas, or ultra cold places with a -8c being the maximum low temperature that you can experience around here... but off road wise is not different than you find in any other country.
@@MotorDanko being from South Africa I can relate perfectly. My point is simply that the bike comes stock for European riding conditions, but appears to be so designed to accept upgrades for the outback riding we typically enjoy.
Yes, that's our take home message. For most, it's ideal just riding it out of the showroom.
No it s far from perfect..the real perfect bike is the v strom 800DE
@@falchiherve2024 no way, perfect can only be tuareg660, then transalp and maybe then 800de
Excellent review , also noticed your honest criticisms. Much appreciated. 👍🏼 👏👏 👍🏼
Thank you. Please spread the word.
Love your reviews fellas! Keep up the great work.
Much appreciated!
Outstanding boys great info. Awesome as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks guys! Great stuff as always.
Glad you enjoyed it! Normally we'd ride them longer and in more varied terrain but 300 ks was a decent time on the bike to get my head around it.
Looking forward to your more thorough adventure test in the dirt & hearing your assessment. I live near the scenic rim & cut my adv riding teeth on those dirt roads…you blokes only got a taste, some more great riding out there. Cheers gents 👍🏻
Yeah it will be great to get spend more time on them. Hopefully early next year.
Great 1st review as always. Not at all influenced by brands providing motorcycles for test rides. Looking forward to more detailed review on Transalp and VStrom 800. Keep rocking....missing Nugget though, hope he is doing well.
we are planning a big ride with Nugget soon.
i would also like a comparison betweet translap, vstrom 800 and tuareg (my favourite mid size)
I’m a GS rider, but this reboot of the Transalp looks fantastic. Well done Honda.
It is. Lovely bike to ride. My favourite is the Tri Colour.
Looks like a nice sport touring bike. Now we need a CRF600 Rally to compliment it.
Honestly a 500 Rally with 48 hp would be great for traveling, still not sure why nobody brought it out yet...
That would be cool!
@@bergerniklas6647a marriage of the CBX500 and CRF450L.
True wide ratio gears, cush drive, twin, bigger tank and wider seat. 180kg.
@@bergerniklas6647 mikeisland 7382 Transform it into a CRF550L Adv- Enduro Sports- Dakar Rally machine with DNA from XR-R Baja 1000 and Dakar Monster Energy HRC CRF450. Based it on the design from Honda's R&D center in Rome - a futuristic Adv-Dakar Rally concept bike similar to the CB125X that Honda launched at Eicma 2018. Everything falls into place, developing it into a hybrid single-cylinder or low-end grunt parallel twin in lightweight materials. Engine design both with petrol + a smaller electric slave engine to cope with emissions. It's a bike that every rider has been waiting for since mid 00s and many new riders don't know they want to buy until it's launched. Compare with the launch of the first iPhone. More hybrid models that can catch up before the market are Yamaha Tenere XT550 T5. Suzuki DRZ 550. Kawasaki KLX 550. KTM 490/590 Enduro R plus Adventure R model and Husqvarna Norden 501/601 also in Enduro model. All with long servos ㋡
@@dualsportscandinavia353 Now that the Kove 450 is coming out hopefully the manufacturers will all be tripping over themselves trying to make their own rally type light adventure singles. Any of the ones you mentioned sound good to me.
Very few riders will push this bike to its limits and it will therefore suit more riders than people think. I have an Africa Twin which I''m very happy with, have fun out there everybody
I agree as I repeatedly stated in the video, but let's be clear the suspension on your Africa Twin is way better
Finally an informative video on the new bike many of us have been waiting for, actually set in Australia. Well done! South Australia was meant to be getting them yesterday, but this has been delayed due to "lack of stock". You eastern state types appear to have bought them all...
You immediately focussed on the issue around the sump vulnerability and protection, which is, yes - the 'elephant in the room'. Not sure about the 'dry sump' description, as that would involve a separate oil tank, but the reason for the extended 'spout' is to keep any debris from mixing with the circulating oil. But the sump appears to be a separate part, so one with a shorter spout may become available. Such a shallower sump, with some re-angling of the exhaust 'cats', could gain 20 - 30 mms of ground clearance.
The other Elefant in the room is the bike I will be upgrading from - a '95 E750 Cagiva - and for which the Transalp appears to be a suitable replacement. About 75% road and 25% dirt. 200mms of suspension travel sufficient for my (dirt road, not trails) use. Of course the Elefant came standard with a solid but lightweight aluminium subframe beneath the engine, and a substantial bashplate, from stock (and easily made it into Arkaroola and out, two-up). The Elefant also has an oil window...
But if I'm going riding seriously gnarly trails, I won't be bringing a 750! Dirt roads and the odd creek crossing about it.
But the extra cost of the many accessories puts the low initial cost in perspective, and many will look elsewhere than the Honda 'packs' for a sump guard that is a little briefer, and hopefully lighter, than the Spanish steel bars and brackets of the Honda accessory. SW-Motech etc. to the rescue.
The other 'elephant' is the air filter access, and it appears to be under the tank, which is disappointing for this dusty country. Yours the first test (of many!) to finally mention this important consideration. A future video on removing the tank would be useful. The Elefant's also under the tank (like the Desert X!) and that's quite a job to do at the roadside on that bike.
I still find the AI-generated subtitles distracting, and laughably incorrect at times, so getting a human to do those would raise the standard of your videos. Whatever is saved by having them done as they are isn't worth it if it spoils your otherwise-good quality of video. Although to be fair, some of the 'Aussie mumbling' probably expecting a lot of a robot!'
The subtitles can be turned off. They ae auto generated and then I edit them but obviously miss some of the mistakes.
Looking forward to this review Dave and Clubby... 👍😉
You and me both!
Love this channel Dave. This review has left me feeling much better about getting the CFmoto Ibex (MT) 800. Everything this bike needs is standard on the Cfmoto and then some. It was after watching an OTBW video from AU. that I decided to take the plunge. Before that it was either the V-Strom DE or the Trans Alp. I think I mafe the right choice for me.
Glad it was useful.
Love ya new intro and outro by the way, very cool 😎 👍
Glad you like it!
Great review again and again, no B.S only facts and lots of experience to evaluate what you ride . I don't get why so many people are pissed off about this bike not being and absolute off road beast. For god's sake people! this is a Transalp, it was never meant to be .
Correct, Honda have stayed consistent with the brief.
Long term Honda fan. I’m glad I didn’t wait for this thing and bought a Tenere.
Sounds like a Corolla.
A Corolla doesn't deliver power like that at 8 thousand! :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV It doesn't matter! Among bikes this is what Corolla is among cars. Completely lackluster. Uninspiring. Dull. Boring. Find more synonyms and insert here. The Tenere's growl is so much better...
Another great video guys! Can't wait to hopefully eventually see a comparison between the Tenere 700 (w/suspension mods), Tuareg 660, V-strom 800DE, and Transalp XL750 (w/suspension mods) . Still loving my Tuareg :)
Yeah someone will attempt that. Not me :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I forget it's a lot of work, sometimes we viewers get spoiled. Thanks for a great job again on this one!
@@robertrscott Thank you
Fantastic review lads very honest, they have only landed in Ireland, I hope to get a test ride on one Monday 👍🤜
Glad you liked it. Go for a test ride. I think for Europe it's well aligned to the riding environment.
Thanks for the review, it was good hearing a few insider pieces like the wheel interchangeability with the AT. Those are the details I love to hear.
I'd be curious to hear if the footpegs and mounts aren't going to let you down because of a slightly unlucky tip over. Yeah, my 500x, broke 2 of those damn pegs! Fitting strong ones just moves the problem to the much more expensive mounts. The squishiness is not a big deal to me, but that they're a liability when you tip over at 10kmh at an unlucky spot!
I had high hopes for the Transalp. To be honest I don't see it as my cup of tea. I was really hoping for it to be based on the NC750x which carries its weight so low: With the engine tilted forward and fuel tank under the seat. A storage bin would have made it immensely practical.
Honda had the NC and infected this thing with the Japanese "Adventure" bike disease of carrying it's weight stupidly high up. The tall sump is part of that. Ye olde KLR650 managed to have a low sump... Sure, and expert rider like yourself who started thrashing dirt bikes before they could walk probably doesn't mind as that weight disappears once you're moving at speed. If you're the guy that can just power through every obstacle, rarely drops their bike and tends to go with friends, then this not an issue. Even the 500x which I got as a result of your videos is too top heavy for me when the going gets very technical. Then when it does fall, the "light" 500x becomes more difficult to pick up than the "heavy" BMG F700GS. When there's no traction below, then that "technique" is effin useless as it will just slide underneath you.
While I love ABS and EFI and modern reliability, this is just too much. I couldn't care less about those stupid rider modes, let me just go! Now all that stuff just adds additional cost and complexity. I'm a Software Engineer by trade and hate that it all operated through that display. On Grips that are 320 dollars, they effin skimped out on a few cheap LEDS and buttons making them easier to use. Now you need to do the BMW iDrive bullshit of messing around in menus to turn off heated grips?! The cheap Oxford units are 2 buttons and a couple LEDs, easy!
Something that ALL reviewers miss is the reparability, particularly in the field. I've got to find one review that talks about access to the air-filter and spark plugs in the event of a drowned bike. I bet it's going to be just as bad, if not worse than the already terrible CB500x which needs a crazy deep socket to get the plugs out. Good luck to the solo rider who drops their bike in a water crossing.
I hate it how even the high 14k base prise was just looked at as, yeah, that's cheap. No it's not!
Thanks mate for your thoughts. We did mention the air filter.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks, you're right. I missed the subtle hint that it would be difficult to service. I thought you were more concerned about wading depth.
Been waiting for this test on this channel...
I hope it was useful. Not as thourough as. what we usually do, but that will come later.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Was more interested in the Suzuki DE800 ,especially after seeing the Hessler one(too expensive a kit for me at present), but, after seeing the Transalp in the flesh, I'm tempted to go splash the cash on one,especially the black one! Only hesitation I have, is the CL/GB750 planned for '24, if the pictures are correct, more interested in one of those!
@@williamrae9954 Too much choice at the moment.
Real world review from the real deals !
Does look good but seems expensive for the top model . Great content again guys .
Well it's not the top model, it happens to be a bike that they through every accessory on it, but strangely not in the different versions as depicted at the end of the video.
great video, thanks. could you do a video comparing the transalp to the africa twin? size / moving it around the floor, rider position, ride, power, comfort, anything you can think of?
Not sure
Waiting for it to arrive in the USA!
OK I wonder how it will be until it arrives.
Riding in my back yard. Been on all those roads.👍
That is awesome!
Enjoyed that, 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for a great review of the Honda im not expressed with it long live the Yamaha T7
Loving this channel more and more. when you all want to expand to the US - Please gimme a ring!
Ha ha. 25% of my audience are from the US
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV bring on the expansion!!!! :)
Think this bike would be great for a bike build by you Dave. To unlock the full potential
I hope we can follow along with Daryl Beattie's bike build.
Thanks for a great review. I’m in the market for a middleweight ADV/touring bike, but the lack of cruise control is a deal breaker for me. Maybe next year? Thanks again.
Fair enough!
mais um exelente video , obrigado. quando a transalp , bem parece de repente uma africa twin penso que a Honda não anda só perdida no motogp mas ok, para a maioria dos utilizadores se calhar sera a versao base com as caixas. só uma questão qual o peso da transalp ??
Sim, o nível básico será popular. Não tenho certeza do peso, pois estou longe do escritório. Deve estar na rede. Obrigado por assistir MADTV
What would be the prefered weapon of choice for a Flinders Ranges trip? The Red Rooster 300 Rally, or top of the line Transalp, with suspension mods and knobbies? Looking forward to the detailed review.
Transalp if you had to ride there from Sydney
Hey Dave Awsome review of the new beast.... You were riding the very color Ive been eyeballing since It's release.... Hey On another Video in a Group Press release I heard you mention you road one with Cruise Control. Was that Grey bike the one and how well did it work ???? The oil sump you showed us looks to be a built in Funnel for oil changes hahahaha.... That really should have Cooling fins to aid in oil cooling... Thanks for the great info.... Still not sure if the TransAlp or A T will replace my KLR650......
Not sure about cruise control. I may have missed that in the specs. You need to check.
Certainly a beautiful area to ride. Figured the suspension would need a complete makeover. Gentleman's Adv. bike. Can be a lot more. You had the best looking one Dave, Clubby and the switcher roo.
Right on!
Looks awesome..bet this would make a great daily and touring warrior... I wonder how many unique parts are on it? The true glory of a honda is how easy it is to get parts. The more standard honda stuff the better.
Hondas deliver in that category in spades.
HRC and Kalex...."cough"
Dave, thanks for the review, looking forwards to a more extensive dirt ride and review from yourselves - any chance you can get the mighty Nugget in on the act?
Sadly here in the US, they are only available in black, there are no such accessory packs (that I am aware of although many of the parts are available as extras) and Greg at Interstate Honda in Ft Collins says he won't be able to get hold of any until May 👎
All that being said, I definitely see one of these in my future - being 5"10" I'm just a little short for an AT - but this should fit me nicely. And it's a Honda ✌.
Best
Ian
I will possibly get an opportunity to ride one modified for dirt adventure soon.
Great review
More coming out very soon.
Man, chips must be terribly expensive down there!
Nice review guys.
Thanks for watching!
Hello, I just love this review! Yes I am one of those Older Riders who wants to get off a large heavy bike and into something light and manageable for this long ride tours. However key question. What about the SHORT Riders???? and means seat height at at least 780mm.... David...Adelaide/Kilburn...Tiger 900GT & Scrambler....
I stand corrected, but I think there is a short seat option.
GREAT Video...THX ! / front cartridge fork + rear shock + skid plate and complete exhaust system without catalyzer and new re-map /3600 €
Agree with everything but a remap and exhaust.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV THX for reply ... You are the best ADV channel ! REALLY ... make you dream
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Any updates yet on when we will see a long term review on the transalp...?
Nope but next year sometime.
Looks like a good base but a lot to spend if you want it to be up there with the top suspension and component bikes. Hopefully the aftermarket guys get on this bike and cut those accessory prices in almost half. Time will tell if the Honda reliability and quality is still built in at that price.
I expect accessory prices, for example a bashplate, to be less expensive.
Love this comprehensive and great review y'all!!! Thank you for mentioning what us hardcore riders would do with the bike, as I'm considering a TransAlp for a replacement of my 790 Adventure. The KTM is still goin' strong after 27k hard miles and #XLMX jumps but I'd prefer having a dealer that isn't 2 hours away. Gotta say that even the TransAlp "Rally" pack would be too soft a bike for my ridin' style though, do better Honda.
-A former lifetime Honda fan and rider since 1990...
Completely different price bracket.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I paid $11,8xx out the door for my brand new 790 Adventure so... not really.
@@RollinwithRoland What country do you live in
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV the wonderful land of South Floriduh, haha. Screechin' Bald Eagles and burnt rubber here! I did get a bit of a deal considering the bike MSRP'd for $13,499 originally. It was about to turn 3 years old on the dealer floor though, heh!
Looking at the countryside that you are riding through... Thinking .." Am I too old to emmigrate from the uk to Australia ? ...you guys are very blessed .. 😄
It's brilliant.
Good review. One question it looks top heavy. Is it?
Not at all
"Great Review" As for the XL 750 Transalp, IMO it's a very nice machine and it just boils down to personal choice/ preference. As for no "cruise control", I've heard that the Atlas Throttle Lock works pretty good/ not much money
Thanks for the info!
Yes please mate
OK
Thank you! When can we expect the 800DE in depth review adventure?!
2 weeks
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV looking forward to it!
Dave do you really have to Waite all day for the engine to pull ,between 6 and 8 pm🎉😊.
Yep
Excellent review thanks. Why do Honda go for such soft suspension, like 300L and this bike? Other brands aren’t going this soft. It wouldn’t cost much more to have slightly harder springs to suit the average weight rider. Cheers
Thanks for you views
I did a cursory look online for Transalp specs and was surprised to find no mention of fuel delivery. Is this thing carbureted or fuel injection?
Got to be fuel injected.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Are you sure? I was going to buy a new XL650 and it's carbureted. I decided against it on that single reason and bought a 690 instead. I'm not going to buy the Transalp, I have a 901 that I absolutely love. I'm just curious. Maybe I'll ride up to my local Honda dealer and see if they have one to ride.
It's mindboggeling how Honda manages to offer the Transalp in Australia with such a big price advantage over something like a Tuareg (correct me if I am wrong but it is something like 15k vs. 20k Aussie-$ right?). That makes the Transalp a completely differen proposition than it is here in Europe.
Here in Switzerland both bikes cost pretty much the same (12k vs. 13k CHF).
Wow that is amazing thanks for posting.
After it should be an all rounder, an auto pilot is missing, my humble opinion, thanks for a good review 😎
Thanks for watching!
Heys boys. Which one would you pick Vstrom 800de or transalp750 cheers
It doesn't work like that.
I got a Tansalp to go with my 450 L and the 300,s in Australia we must have more dirt roads than anyone Its very good i have put up some vids have a look it might tell you if it can off road
The Tenere have a similar oil sump. But it´s covered by a thin plastic cover so people don´t se it and not coplaining about it :)
And frame rails.
Nice video, thank you. I'm interested in this bike compared to a late-model Africa Twin. I own a 2021 CRF1100 and its a big, powerful beast I'm not sure I need. How does this bike compare? Looking forward to your views in the future.
I love the suspension on your AT. I think the AT is a cracking bike with excellent handling.
Interesting on that low sump and then the cost to protect the bike.
Cost wise, where would the Transalp fall with other bikes in a ready to "Adventure:" state of being? I have an 890 Adventure S, which I know is more money right off the bat but it is pretty well protected in stock form. Then there is the T-7, the Aprilia T 660, the new VStrom, etc...Shoot, even the KLR in the Adventure package for a one lung ADV option.
Honda quality is legendary and it appears that this bike would fit into a jack of all trades bike from the casual rider to the go hard rider if they bring it up to spec.
A complex calculation that one. Intending customers really need to do their maths and know exactly what they want.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV It is a hard equation. The past few years you have to factor availability into the calculation.
I would have been on a T-7 if I could have gotten one two years ago.
@@pinkiewerewolf Yes it is a real challenge.
Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda le gambe e se la sella è comoda e non dura. Grazie.
Non ho notato calore sulle mie gambe.
How does the 22KLR suspension compare to the Transalps suspension, just for fun. thanks Guys
A little bit better.
quite an impressive rig for the price but surprised theirs no cruise control mentioned on the honda site...
might be a future accessory to order from honda or something
Not sure
How did you turn abs and tc off in user mode ?
Flick through on selection button and reach user mode, hold for 5 seconds then press across arrow button to traction control, hold up for 3 secs, then off, similar for abs but there is a yes and no to confirm. Once set, don't turn off ignition.
The sump is clearly like that so at each oil change it can drain most micro fragments away, if your riding ground that hits that then your going to be doing your cat each time any way. In that case you opt for the sheild.
I don't know if that's the case. I haven't heard from a mechanical engineer yet. Most micro particulates and impurities in oil don't settle.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'm no expert, but with out sounding funny Honda do know how to make good engines so they have done it for some reason. And the bike is more road intended in most the reviews, so not unless you push your luck coming of a high curb should be good to go. My one seems spot on
@@barneyapps2375 Agreed. Honda make cracking engines with great reliability but no one has yet answered why!
Adding that extra protection puts this bike smack bang against the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro if I look at the pricing here in South Africa. In which case it is no contest. I will go for the RP every day of the week.
That is a great bike
That rock thing KILLS me every time FUNNY AS HELL
Bloody hilarious. We didn't mean for that to happen. We laughed for a half an hour.
Good on Ya Clubby, keep it real mate, knock Dave down a rubber peg or two on to the Povo Pak 😅😂😅 love your Job fellas, I'm after it you know, thanks for a good first impression 👍
Thanks 👍 Yeah it's a nice bike love the ergos.
This or the CFMOTO 800MT Touring? Similar price but VERY different inclusions. I'm not looking for 'hardcore' off-road, perhaps just forestry roads here in Oz. More blacktop than gravel.
Makes life interesting.
Is the transalp a significantly better alrounder than the humble cb500x, I’m not convinced.
I've reviewed the 500x and felt it was a good bike
Honestly it’s annoying if the recommendation is to turn off traction and ABS. That’s a major fail if they’re that bad. I really like traction and ABS on my desert x it’s really well done. This is great value though but it’s not good if the electronics should be turned off.
We didn't have enough time to experiment, nor enough dirt. I'm confident that are other settings for traction control, but I suspect it will not be as good as sat what you'd find on the Desert X that uses a Bosch system which in a similar capability is found on the KTM and Husqvarna
What’s your view on Aprilia Tuareg 660? Good middle weight Adv?
We have tested the Aprillia extensively, have a look at the test on this channel.
Only until it breaks down....
I want to see a comparison with the Yamaha Tenere 700 Rally Raid, that would be very interesting test.
Noted! But not sure that is going to happen too soon.
will MADtv review the Kove 450 Rally?
If it gets to Australia in a registrable condition.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Geeked! ..based on some bikes...Ktm,Yami,Honda 450 RX 🔧
Clubby said "Wooow" Haha. :) It would make a good mid size road bike. But I think for anything real it would need suspension. Now your up there with other bikes that you could just ride out on.
Suspension upgrades max would be $3K to make a big difference. Then it is still cheap.
It seems the CFMOTO 800 Explore might be a better option for most as it come with all the extras and is considerably cheaper.
There will be customer resistance to buy CF Moto and customer loyalty to Honda,
Currently saving up for a used machine again but seeing these newer ones with all the bells and whistles makes me think, is this what I want alone far from help? Yes it may prevent an accident which is really good! But it also means that a lot can go mechanically wrong and be harder to fix or get parts for. Money wise there's no choice, I need a cheaper bike :)
Many are in your position. Fortunately there are many good second hand bikes out there.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Oh yes I am sure. Currently looking at a used BMW 650 GS. My kid and I are hoping to drive from Norway to South Africa in 2-3 years time. We have a lot to learn about crossing borders and long distance roadtrips. It's been years since I had a bike last time and even if I started riding in the 80s I am not very experienced in this sort of adventure. :) Anyways yours and other mc channels on RUclips are a great inspiration, and I hope one day to be half as experienced as you lot.
/Cheers Jon
@@jonbeargenx Good luck on your quest. Never let it go.
Yeah nah...
They should have a meeting prior to riding for those reviewer test rides to teach about the settings...
So they can test the bike to their actual abilities.
They also apparently haven't told you the price beforehand.
You don't seem to pronounce the negatives as much as Clubby, he's great, and especially for the money this thing costs it really doesn't seem to be thought out all that well.
It stands as is, if you go Honda it's Africa Twin or 300L Rally.
If you want the midrange the King Tenere 700 can't be beat!
Great show and it apparently rings true that some especially critical channels are actually not invited to such test rides.
Not that you don't voice any criticism but it's kept rather mild is at least my impression.
Firstly, Clubby and I work together and we AGREE on content and what is going to be said and if I or he disagree then we'll say it. In this under the tree. Also I talk live as I'm riding the bike. review my piece to camera was cut short because we had to go. That was the piece to camera You'll notice at the end we did it in a car park with a fork lift beeping. Hardly ideal. Nevertheless a curious observation that is a little kooky. Do yourself a favour and read the transcript of the conversation.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yeah, not a long term review or a thorough one.
It's understandable.
In any case I think there are a lot better options out there for the midrange these days.
Been enjoying your content for quite a long time.
London to Sydney pretty much got me into adventure riding.
Looking forward to the V-Strom and hopefully the Kove will reach you at some point! 👍
I've just been very disappointed with Honda in this one ngl...
Great review, good looking bike unfortunately Honda New Zealand want over $20k with on the roads, so I think I'll pass and wait for a Suzuki sale.
For a basic model? Wow?
Move to Australia. NZ is a rip off.
It kinda fits into the VStrom 650 segment but with more grunt
Yeo
Maybe I missed it but is the suspension adjustable?
No apart from a bit of rear preload
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff hmm, no sale. adjustable suspension should be standard on any offroad oriented bike!
Only spring preload adjustment, front and rear. The separate-function cartridge forks allow some independent adjustment of compression and rebound via changing weights of oil in the forks, right and left. Possibly running different weights in each leg, as I do on my current bike, which also has compression and rebound functions in separate legs. Springs not too dear to change if necessary. When the rear suspension gets weary a better unit could be fitted, rather than modifying the standard unit, providing the adjusters some require. The rear unit will be the expensive suspension mod.
Thank you
Seems like the Suzuki 800de has it covered as most of what you need to add on with the handa is done already cant wait for the reviews great work gentleman 👏 👍 😀 👌
Yeah, we covered some big miles on the Suzuki in our traditional review.
And the Suzuki starts with decent, fully adjustable suspension front and rear. An expensive fix for the Honda.
Definitely an opportunity for some clever individual with a CNC to machine up a replacement sump that’s as wide as possible and no lower than the exhaust headers.
With some thought I’m sure it’s doable without losing any oil capacity.
Yep.
Or if theres a part inside that prevents the sump being raised then make the sump more cube shaped to add more capacity for longer distance touring between services could also be an option
It’s possible there would be an oil strainer within that protruding crankcase lump.
I’m sure that too could be modified in conjunction with a redesigned shallower / wider sump. As you say it could increase the oil capacity which would be a good thing. Over to you after market manufacturing gurus to come up with a modified sump.
@@spanky8164 absolutely...
I've currently got a 650 transalp which I bought only because it was cheap and it's turned out to be surprisingly good... I think this model will be a good thing down the track once the aftermarket has its way with it
@@derekandleonie5636
You’re not going to believe this…
I too own a 650 Transalp that I brought 3 years ago. I paid $3500 with 12 months rego and love it too.
I also own a Honda XLV 750 that I’ve owned for 35 years.
Love my Hondas 👍
Day Is Gonna Come / Royal Deluxe
Good track
So, where is the air filter? Do we have to dismount the fuel tank like Desert X?
Yes it's buried under the tank
Honda should have done like Aprilia. The 660 engine is used both in the streetbike and the Tuareg. But the sump is changed for the Tuareg for ground clearence.. The Transalp is 80 % a streetbike..
Thanks for that information.
Center stand and cruise control?
A few have said that.
Ya aftermarket 😂
Sound like they’re decent bikes but they’re gonna stop feeling good value pretty soon.
Be good to pick up a fully farkled one for cheap in a few years though.
I like yellow anyway 😎
Fair enough!
Looking forward to the day someone puts proper knobbies on this thing to give her a good off-road thrashing. With a proper bash plate also...
It's a pity, because there was a bike in the fleet with dirt oriented tyres but I couldn't very well say to that bloke, who incidently was a road rider, mate, can I have your bike? You're right these big twin 200 kg thingies respond well to the correct rubber for conditions.
cruise control?
not sure
A little while back Clubby went weak at the knees for the CF Moto MT800... now, after rising the Transalp, would you spend your "hard earned" on the new Honda or the CF Moto? I think the CF comes with accessories std so could be seen as better value, but its no Honda....
We'll have to ask Clubby. He is away at the moment.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks.. I also think your maths may be off a little in your wash up of a fully kitted Transalp (towards the end of the vid) when you stated it would be $20k plus on road costs. Earlier in the vid the base bike was $14,499- + ORC or as advertised by Taree MC $15,800 R/A. The $15,800 was the basis for your calc, therefore ORC costs (sans accessories) has already been included once... by my reckoning (and Clubby's hand written wish list) the total would be $15,800 (R/A) + $3,567 + $731 = $20,098 (if S/duty doesn't apply to the extras - ie. they were billed separate and fitted after delivery?) or add another $129 for Sduty for an all encompassing $20,227- R/Away. I know it's not gunna break the bank, but... $20k + ORC would be well over $21k. Thoughts
@@grassy72For the price buy CF, but the Honda is true Japan & has higher resale value.
Or look at Triumph if money isn’t an issue.
Paused at 5:15 ... I see a scary monster :)
hmm
OMG, the sump! Why on earth would they shape it like that?
Strange isn't it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV dry sump, need either a remote reservoir with oil pumped to the engine, a swirl pot, or baffles (like an EFI fuel tank) in a standard sump, and or an appendage to collect the oil which is scavenged back into the circuit. Overall, dry sumps reduce starvation.
I don’t understand why the manufacturers put such soft springs on new bikes.
They all do
I read somewhere many years ago that the Japanese tend to spec their bikes for 73kg riders (not sure it that is true).
@@davidnobular9220 I believe there is some truth to that, but maybe a bit heavier. Well it seems like that anyway :)