BANKRUPT AGAIN?! Katie Price Tells All: Boob Jobs, Bankruptcy, and Battling Suicide
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- This week I'm sitting down with someone who is used to stripping off, someone who needs no real introduction, glamour model Katie Price. In our second round (watch our first interview here), we dive deep into her life in the public eye, discussing the traumas she's faced, her suicide attempt, time in the Priory, bankruptcy, and the rise and fall of her million-pound empire. From her early days as Jordan to becoming a businesswoman, author, and reality TV star, Katie's journey has been as wild as she is.
We dive into the stories behind the headlines, exploring her resilience and determination. Katie opens up about her darkest moments, mental health struggles, and relentless media scrutiny. We also cover her time in the Priory and the financial turmoil that led to her 'second bankruptcy'. Despite these challenges, Katie continuously reinvents herself and her brand.
Katie shares her ambitions and the projects that invigorate her spirit, from the prospect of training as a paramedic to the unexpected success of her podcast with her sister. We also tackle her straightforward take on plastic surgery and the responsibility of being a public figure influencing body image perceptions. There's an air of anticipation as we talk about her upcoming podcast tour, Netflix documentaries, and West End show, she really doesn't stop!
So, does Katie Price answer all my tough questions?👇🏻 Watch the full podcast now to find out. Tune in for an episode that offers not just a candid look at Katie Price's life, but also insights and inspirations to navigate your own challenges and aspirations.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
5:50 - Why did you go into the Priory?
12:36 - Bankruptcy
17:30 - Who do you have around you now?
19:43 - Would you say you're a bad judge of character?
22:31 - What about with men?
24:41 - The Media
27:20 - Katie and her Driving Licence
34:04 - Best Earning Times Throughout Your Career
36:40 - What do you truly regret?
39:54 - How does Katie deal with trust?
40:36 - How do you protect the kids from seeing things you don't want them to see?
41:49 - Do you help your kids with their careers?
43:57 - What do you think it is that's kept you in the press for 30 years?
45:34 - Does it scare you that you may wake up tomorrow and everyone has lost interest in you?
47:03 - Broken Foot
48:12 - Teeth and Plastic Surgery
52:42 - What are you doing now to reduce stress and not relapse?
57:03 - What do you think your key business skills are?
58:22 - The Katie Price Show
01:01:04 - Another podcast in 4 years, will you be less chaotic, more relaxed? Where do you see yourself?
01:02:11 - Conclusion
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Katie 'tells all'. She's always 'telling all'.
What's ur point
@@rosk.wilburn5847 it's pretty self explanatory
@rosk.wilburn5847 she always got a story to tell someone to blame for her actions always spending money she hasn't got. She is doing her face to the point that she has no face left. Blaming others for her own actions. She can't sing. Another book to make cash, she would sell anything for cash. She maybe related to you but she needs to grow up and learn stop blaming other people because she did wrong plus doing drugs around her children and taking drugs and driving nearly killing someone did she learn no she keep driving without a licence. Making drama all about her. Sleeping with someone saying marry me have kids and then someone new each week
😅😅😅😅
Because she has no talent.
I love Katie. Even if you don't agree with everything that she does, she's only human. Living her life, she's a great Mother, an open book & taking it one day at a time.
I think Katie has a heart of gold, a great sense of humour & is so business savvy.
Good on you Katie!
Are you kidding, a good mother shows example to her kids not driving under the influence and snorting whatever she was snorting. She’s not a good mother, she may feed her kids but setting an example not a chance. If she was so business savvy she’d use some of her ‘hard earned cash’ and pay her debts like everyone else does instead of hiding in her denial delusional brain
“Business savvy”!?!? You are joking I hope. She owes millions from her 2 bankruptcies.
@@chrisso871 she is great at business though sh*t at keeping her finances in check
@@Sue-D1101 Katie was used by her ex husbands. Her last one can't keep it in his pants and is highly likely cheating on his current partner. Katie has been through a lot and come back out the other end. You try going through half of what she has. You would not come back.
@@angelasmith3332 oh what planet are you on? It’s all about choices and if as you claim Katie’s husbands used her well that’s all down to her choices. They all can’t have been bad, she has a lot to answer for also with regards to cheating. Maybe if she stopped all this erratic behaviour and grew up I might show some sympathy but unfortunately it doesn’t look like she’s going to grow up any time soon. Oh and we’ve all been through stuff, some a lot worse than Katie Price believe me we just don’t choose to tell everyone constantly like ever so needy Katie does.
I never understand how these “celebrities” are bankrupt yet they seem to be on holiday all the time in luxury villas in Spain or Thailand or somewhere ! Getting loads of plastic surgery. How can that be if they are bankrupt !!! Why wouldn’t the judge/magistrate take her passport and not let her travel ? The money all that costs could go to her debts !
You'll be surprised how much things celebrities get free.
It’s free
You’re right, you don’t understand… how bankruptcy works.
That isn't quite how bankruptcy works and she definitely gets lots of free we surgeries and holidays
It's the spending on holidays n surgery that makes them bankrupt Durgh
She still doesnt seem to understand that if you dont pay your mortgage then you lose your house
if you dont pay your taxes you get bankrupt again
if you have countless luxury holidays each year you get bankrupt
and its not the doctor who decides if you get your licence back its DVLA decision.. and with countless driving infractions and telling people you are NOT mentally well enough to attend court then you dont get your licence back.. mental health is accounted for when deciding if you get your licence back to
plus the usual dose of contradictions from other interviews.. she cant keep her lies straight.. she has cheated on all her partners yet she expects trust O.o
How do you know she has cheated ?..and you can see she's coherent enough to drive, without using the mental health card as to why she shouldn't...
I remember in her shows and books she always said her brother Dan handled her finances, surely he wouldn't rip her off. She has definitely been used and abused so hopefully now she has the self confidence to not let people dictate her life
I think it was the divorces , they prob all wanted pay days from her .
If you read her Mums book she speaks about it. Think 1 of her husbands stopped Dan doing it
I believe that was early in her career. Dan hasn't worked for her for many years.
@deerheart87 they sure did
Obviously dont know the Britney story
I’m the same age as Katie . I always thought she was a strong lady . If I had every little piece of my last 25 years examined under a microscope I don’t think I could’ve coped so well. I hope she is on the up swing . Amazing mum 100%. Her love for her kids shines through .
She’s needed the media to get where she is. It’s a game and you have to take the good with the bad
@@clairehillier9818 she’s savvy that way so good on her - she’s done very well in that area. In other areas not so good
@@clairehillier9818 and her ex husbands Peter & Kieran used her for publicity and look where (especially one of them) is now! Butter couldn't melt in PA mouth but he is as slimy as a snake.
PTSD from domestic violence and men using her as a toy, stealing and cheating with close friends. The stalkers alone must be scary and unbearable to live with especially if you can't trust anyone. You live in constant fear and end up not trusting yourself and shut down. Mental health is not something you just fix and get over.
She barely lets him get a word in. Very erratic in the way she speaks.
The way every time the camera goes off Kate and onto Matt (because he's asking the next question) and it comes w the biggest cloud of vape directly in Matt's face 😅
Katie is a mouth no wonder folk are fed up with her.Time she paid for her crime.
She will never expect getting old
Accept?
@@deelee4933😂😂
Women don’t age as well as men in general. Women are beauty objects though not so much after 30’s
Cosmetic surgeons have all her money.
Me me me. Take some responsibility!
Never underestimate the devastation trauma leaves on every aspect of life. Depression and mental health issues can literally stop everything and it all implodes. Starting again from a hole if debt and destruction is a huge effort. It takes courage and every ounce of strength you never knew you had. When you can't trust anyone. When the people closest to you steal from you and sell you out at your lowest. Not things you ever get over. It lives on you forever like a tattoo on your face! She's a target. Having ADHD is a curse at times. Lack of executive function and being chased by debts is a fear like no other. It's not ok to judge her without personal experience of these issues. She has pulled herself out of some scary places and tries again. That's a real person doing their best in unreal circumstances.
Well said!
She is really putting a fight in for recovery and stability I really admire her
a drunk/drug driver? You admire that? You might want to aim higher than the gutter
She’s a silly women
@@HelenCrane-jl1nv And an animal abuser
@@HelenCrane-jl1nv doing better than you - what’s your itinerary look like? Not much
She’s a bloody nutter! She constantly blames the media for ‘making up stories about her’ then says she found out she had a second bankruptcy order (which is true) when she read it in the paper….I’d like to lol at that but I don’t think I can…jeeeez what a gal!
She complains at length about papers and everyone "going on and on and on" about her bankruptcy and how sick of it she is.. the title of the podcast "BANKRUPT AGAIN?!!!" 😂😂😂😂😂
She’s a fighter - not perfect
Have no pity for her, another interview another day …
Not the Host liking the negative comments about Katie 😭.
Sign of a bad Host. He should remain neutral!
Lie after lie
Drugs and alcohol.
She speaks without thinking……
Like all women
Typical ADHD ...it’s never her fault it’s everyone else’s .goes all around the block to elaborate a lie ..contradicts herself all the time ....the kids fathers have custody of her kids .she says she’s not flash 😂 didn’t she remember her wedding to andrea ......she needs to pay her debts
So many live beyond their means.
That’s a big of a generalisation Not all of us adhd are Katie price levels of delusion
Typical adhd...then you proceed to come with many derogatory comments....imagine calling someone out for how they are it's like having a moan at someone with diabetes because they don't make insulin like come on.
Those things aren't really typical of ADHD...
Typical narcissistic personality disorder traits not ADHD
She shouts 😮
Katie has been through alot . Katie is a kind woman . Katie is a very strong woman. Katie is a go getter . Katie looks like she is in a great place . I wish Katie and her family all the best ❤
Amen❤
Did you say 'Katie' enough times 😂
Not in a great place, she with another man and bankrupt not a good place to be in. After help, she will be better ❤
Awww little sentences . 😂
It sounds like Katie doesn't have a relationship with Junior. That's very sad.
Why does Kate not have a relationship with junior IAM confused
@@marylock3105 Junior is now managed by Pete's Manager i.e Clare Powell. Katie and Clare are bitter enemies, and in this interview she implies that Clare has encouraged him to keep her and his other maternal relatives at a distance. That is her perception. But of course there may be other reasons why she doesn't see him often. Her life seems quite chaotic and maybe Junior just can't handle it!
Maybe Junior decided he didn't want anything to do with her and who could blame him.
I could see that Junior was embarrassed of her from a couple of years back.
Yes, that's what I worked out too, eventhough she didn't name names
Matt, you HAVE to learn how to take control of the interview. She would hardly let you finish a sentence or utter a word and when you did she was deflecting and very distracting seeing her vaping
I'm an American fan of katie I have all.of her books and love how they parodied her on footballers wives she's a legend I see a lifetime movie coming and a updated book or a new book surviving katie price
She’s not a bad person at all, she just made bad mistakes and decisions. Haven’t we all? Some hurtful things have been done to her and said about her, especially Harvey x
She brings it on herself takes no responsibility
I’ve never got into a car drunk and on drugs.
Not every mistakes are the same and not all bad decisions are the same though they’re all mistakes and bad decisions. The level of how often mistakes and bad decision one made, as well as how bad they were decide an overall value of a person in general.
@@emmafagan like anybody else - she makes mistakes. You make mistakes and could do better too
She’s always in debt for god sake
Why does she keep getting away with it
Just put her in prison already because it will be non stop Katie price bankruptcy in the papers non stop in the future
She’s not good with money - not many women are. I’ve got experience with women and they are all pretty useless with 💵 💰
Katie is a fighter❤and an inspiration to never give up through bad times🌹
Some souls have an abundance of chaos, people find their rollercoaster ways fascinating, others are disgusted. We are boom and bust people who can't be contained. Good to see Katie heading towards boom again. Think I am on my way as well. Thank you for speaking up 🥰
I wouldn’t buy anything with her name on it. Sorry, but I just wouldn’t.
I love Katie 💝 she has a good heart 🙏🏻💞 thank you for this interview 🥰
So great to see you doing well Katie, I have always liked you. You're genuine and always yourself,so glad you got through your ups and downs and woke up to the users. Best of luck to you
You've told stories about people to
There has always been jordan the party girl and Katie the giood mum which she is no question, about that you see that when you see them together . Gosh i used to watch the reality shows of peter and katie. But she does have issues like us all you get it sorted ,then move on best you can . Not using it as a excuse for the actions you take , then feel like you are hated by everyone, no one hates katie . As for men yes its her business but with the recent one, months they been talking yet never heard of him before personally . Because of how quick it does seen them together, thats why media , people pick up on it . If katie lost everything the money wise she couldn't have any more surgery i think shes had too much, 25:11 she doesn't look like she did when she first came out . Grow old naturally i say . I also like katies crafts she does when doing uo her house. , shame she couldnt do something along that line for others to enjoy too . Think that could be a good idea . Maybe i will ask her on her podcast ? .
I thought when Kate said she was the one that was oh if I don’t give them, then they won’t be my friend thought was sad, but honest
Its ashame how Katie looks now I can remember her saying some years ago she never wanted to look the way she does now after so much surgery.
@@stevechristie2569 no
She's ruined herself. Surgery addicts always do. They get to a "sweet spot" where they look great, then they go and ruin it all by going overboard. She looked her best around the Alex Reid/Leandro era. Pete Burns and Michael Jackson also spring to mind.
@@The_torero yes but as i already said she used to say she never wanted to look like she had a lot of surgery, she said they looked weired, its just ironic that she looks that this now, ashame because she was a natural beauty in her page 3 days.
@@sarah6557 She's scared of getting old.
Coming from a journo, he’s a really, really bad interviewer. No idea why or how he managed to get Katie on there but he doesn’t dig deeper Into the subject he’s just got nervous energy and ‘let’s go to the next thing then…’
She contradicts herself constantly.
No she doesn't
More clever than you
@@Epicgeezerthis guy is replying to every comment 😂
No she doesnt? Did you watch the whole interview?
Yeah: she’s all about boobs not brains, what did you expect? Feel sorry for her. She
She needs see the real problem is herself not everyone else!! Only then will she find serenity ....
Stay strong ❤
The way she explains things shouting out Typical ADHD.I suffer with this myself some suffer worse than others.
I want my kids to think I'm a good Mother. Work has nothing to do with it, infact work is the opposite of parenting. Work is absence.
Farmers & their wives have the best set up for their children I've come to realise.
I think she has not been careful who she trusts n truth is she's built a business which she is the product n made some bad choices.. but I think she's a good person .. life throws shit at times being under a microscope must be hard work n yes she takes publicly to promote herself but she's worked hard had some crap stuff thrown at her ..she defends her kids especially Harvey and the patience she has with him is amazing .. I say give her a break allow her to deal with her bad choices n people should stop branding her .. I salute you Katie doing what your doing.. n people who bad mouth you .. wouldn't last a week in your shoes .. I wish you luck n resolve what ever is this or the next obstacle.. ❤
Love her so much
Karma she is nothing but a car crash she lies all the time i never believe her of course she knows about her bankruptcies she is an absolute liar!!! She is in complete denial about what she has done
Okay you obviously don’t like her not that she cares about that
Your JELOUS 😂😂😂😂😂😊
I’d like to hear about her dinner in Italy with Boris Johnson and the Russian oligarch.
I've watched katie for years,, this is the 1st time ive seen her really grounded and normal, her life was a circus she was always amazing mother. I love Harvey ❤
she still wants it to be a circus. look at her latest boyfriend. the same media hungry type as always. whats changed is the media doesnt pay her anymore cause she is no longer relevant. thats the part she hates.
Age and life experience can humble people
you think this is normal? all the surgery she is still obsessed with? plus yet another wannabe young boyfriend who loves the media attention. she sounds delusional as always. doesnt even know she is bankrupt again! same mistakes over & over. Rinse repeat.
ITS AN INVERTED M2F DECEIVER
Correct.
Probably gender swapped by his Satanic family.
It’s the same old stuff . She is boring now . How many times can someone repeat their life story
Yet here you are listening again
Then why the interest in her and commenting?
Smh..
She can go on
And interrupts, alot
Hard work looking after handicapped children never mind the rest .
We don't use that word anymore in the uk
He’s in a residential place now.
if she dies tomorrw wat would she be known for
Glamour model, 90's pin up, lads mag cover girl, celebrity, author, mother, daughter, sister
Sane question back at ya 😂
Think it's fairly obvious she was referring to Juniors manager in that
Finally katie looking forward and working and got things in the pipeline. Hope she finds happiness in her personal life .Lovely lady
Love Katie price sorry not the best speller what she's says is the truth pstd is bad thanks Katie nice to know someone out there knows.love how she speaks her mind xx
That intro, was so insulting, I turned straight off. The first time you had Kate on it was she was great, to say she rambled on is disgusting, did you get her on to sit in silence ?
She won't even let him speak for 1 second without Interrupting..... its just mad
@@whiterabbit_aimie1872she has adhd.
This is really enlightening hearing Katie talk about real life & mainly therapy
She has spoken up , promoted speaking out & I feel great listening to her say that .
Support saves lives
Well done Katie . This is so great to hear this because of the bad stories about her
A strong woman . I feel you & what a comeback . Once your head space is fixed with love & therapy …
The magic will start to happen
We all love Katie Price xxxx
so happy to hear inspiration from her to be a strong woman 😊
Have to say I really enjoyed this interview. Great interviewer and loved listening to Katie. Interesting listen. I think she'd make a great Paramedic too - calm under pressure! BRAVO both of you 👏👏
Her coconuts would get in the way - and men’s eyes popping out for example 👀
Many a man got famous off katie
How come Matt has loved all but most of the negative comments about Katie? 😮 did he not like her or something
I noticed that lol, Savage
If her lawyers contacted DVLA, they would have assigned an officer to deal with her issues
I think she speaks well. Just tells the truth and a strong lady who has learnt from her mistakes, she’s good at giving advice based on her experience. I think she needs a break! I hope she does well as she deserves it! ❤
😂 Once a …. always a sl…….. 😂
Katie who was known as Jordan, I don’t dislike her, but she’s used the journalist & TV & every person she can to get what she wants. She doesn’t look good at all. She looks like she’s been through it! He sounds similar lol 😂🤣😅
I wish we could you take of people businesses are struggling yes people have been crapped on u and youre mums book was spot on but you have left people with out money ....
I HATE how everyone hates on her for the choices shes made. She has so much trauma. Pete was awful, and she wasnt great either to him, alex, keiron destroyed her, she got sexually abused as a CHILD . She was robbed in africa, her moms illness, coping with harvey, can anybody imagine how hard that must be. Plus the media and trolling. Nobody can judge her unless youve been trough what shes been through. How different is she to other celebs, like marylin who is idolised, amy whinehouse, who drank herself to death cause she couldnt cope with fame and trauma. But they're idolised, im not a fan of katie now cause im 34 and i dont fan on anybody, but as a teen she was everything and everywhere , shes always tried to come out the other side .
Everyone makes choices through their lives, consequences are the results of those choices. With that comes self responsibility, instead of blaming everyone & everything.
Self, respect. IS needed by. Kp
Just pay what u o stop driving because u r banned put her in prison she plays the victim and thinks she above the law 20 husband s and it was all there faults
Log off
Yeah coz all of her husbands have bought something to the table jot just got with Katie thinking it's an easy ride or to get their career boosted like come on....
Their...
Troll
@@s228-MOTshe’s definitely an easy ride, evidently 😂😂
Matts got a shiner 😂
Katies cool.. She observant too shed be good at wheres wally, or spot the difference. She picked up on new teeth, weight loss lol.. But yo kate.. Stop with the botox broooo.. Why you doing it?.. You was propper peng on maxim and all that.. You still look Nice.. But its get like madonna int it.. Dont mash yaself up man.. Chill out.. Hope harveys ok ❤
Brilliant content ❤
😂
What a warrior. Love her
I can see why she was ripped off by the amount of people she constantly had around her.
Maybe it was because she didn't like being alone?
Perhaps she didn't know they were charging by the hour and not friends at all?
She very astute.
It's difficult to believe she was so naive?
I guess some people think they are so rich they are untouchable.
Debt doesn't know class!
One face lift away from kooking more like Janice Dickinson, THAN JANICE DICKINSON 🤣
A Z-lister interviewing a repeat-drunk/drink driver. Car-crash
So pleased to see Katie calm relaxed and having good people around her!
As a mum I understand her he fears of her kids going with her ex management. Manipulation and control was evident from watching the show back then.
I’m glad you’ve found peace Katie. Sticking two fingers up to the media 🫶🏼
Junior probably doesn’t want her at his events for some reason, he is very sensible, she is very unstable imho
@@katjaxxx7353 so are u and your parents
Such a shame she feels the need too keep having surgery she was stunnning . We all have too accept aging and embrace it.
I love the way she is so open and down to earth and says it as it is.❤❤❤grafter
Hayley are you 25-35?
@@stevechristie2569 why do you ask my age?
That was amazing loved it 🥰
What has she done to herself….OH MY DAYS
I love this version of Kate. I think she needed a lot of this off of her chest. Heard Dan Wootton(?) say on a pod recently he felt for the likes of Kate and Kerry Katona the way they've been treated by the media, and he worked for those people for years.
Dan is a complete snake
same old story we have neard a million times sorry matt but she totally over powered you in this interview you had no control whatsoever just like her life is totally out of control. People who dont take any responsibility for there lives will never change and neither will there lives
You sound like a small man uncomfortable letting women lead. Please take a close look at your personal opinions on equality and grow. If you are uncomfortable if your wife earns more than you or a female boss or a woman being honest about domestic abuse then please take some time to work on why.
She a lot more calmer leave her alone
Love you Katie ❤ LORD JESUS guide her in all truth protect from the fowler's snare draw ever closer comfort surround in your love thy will be done in Katie's life and family father place your hedge of protection around Katie and her family with your precious blood in Jesus mighty name 🙏🏻
love or hate her I love her honesty and she says it how it is lol facts ! because she is so right so many people have stuff done and then deny but she will tell you exactly what she has had done lol
I think she picks and chooses what she is honest about.
New Subbie ❤
I respect the person.
She's got a lot of responsibility and she lives in a world full of sharks.
I hope she finds her way and can relax a bit.
Down to earth lass.
I'll be honest... After watching this I admire her. I didn't, I fell for the stories in the press too. No doubt she has had an appalling time over the last few years and most of it was self inflicted, her relationships etc..but...the press do continue to write some terrible stuff.. if it wasn't for the press keep putting pics of her house in the papers, she probably wouldn't have had so much vandalism against her home and continue to do it. Today, pics of her new house again online, it's dangerous and they don't care. That's her home, her kids home, she's trying to turn her life around and gets this crap. How many celeb suicides have to happen because of the barrage of crap from the press?? Have they learned nothing from poor Caroline Flack?? Katie's turning her life around. Look at the previous d heads she's dated. All out for one thing. Even Pete, laughing up his sleeve. I hope she continues to claw her way back up and I as a woman have a new found respect for her 💪
Anom inus! They’re anom inus! 😂😂
😂 I noticed this too. Hilarious!
@@sarahtonin23510😂🫢🤪😆
Love katie❤
Katie is genuine and true to herself, no sugat coating. So refreshing💙
Not like her 1st husband. Tries to make out he is a saint when I know he is quite the opposite. One of my friends slept with him.
with the dvla etc......emails being sent by "Anonymously" could be "Anybody"..........how she comes across SO calmly...............is something "Positively" for her etc.........Good for you Kate.....Good Luck girl............Good Luck with "Everything"....................
Same life story wherever she goes . Heard it all before !
So don't listen😂😂😂
Except now she looks like a burns victim…
Yoga challenge 101
Sensual deprivation causes varring levels of brain damage like ADHD
She needs help.. I think she has a good soul
Cheers to Katie Price. Strong woman and I love my birthday cameo from her! ❤🎉
She’s not letting the interviewer speak, she keeps interrupting him when he is asking a question
It's what she does. It's so annoying
I think I remember her talking in another podcast where she explained she can’t help it due to ADHD
@@tamzenkarmait's not annoying
She has adhd that’s what we’re like we don’t realise it and it’s not intentional 🙄
She's very erratic. Her mind is all over the place. I think the drug abuse greatly contributed to this. If you look at her old interviews from the early 00s, she wasn't like that. She knew how to talk AND listen. Her brain is fried.
She used to be so pretty.
Love katie and her Amazing family❤