That arthropleaura mating scene was honestly one of the most beautiful scenes I’ve ever seen in a paleo documentary. I don’t know how to describe it but it made me realize “Wow, the past is beautiful.”
i feel like if they wanted to save budget they could’ve had segments where they interview paleontologists and talk about the science behind the animals they’re portraying. it would’ve made the whole thing more cohesive instead of being like “we’re talking about cephalopods? here’s random footage of some other cephalopod lol.” i only watched the second episode cause i’m a big cambrian explosion fan and they spent awhile hyping it up as a beautiful diverse time period full of primitive animals covering the seafloor and then when they finally cut to the cambrian it’s just barren flat rock with only two animals. very strange
For a documentary that emphasized the different mass extinctions, often explicitly saying "This was the [number] mass extinction", it was strange that they went over the End-Triassic mass extinction quite fast and without naming it as such an event.
It goes against the narrative of the metabolically-efficient dinosaurs out-competing the "slow and inefficient" reptiles and synapsids. LooP tries to do the whole "Dinosaurs ruled because they were superior, and mammals are the clade that 'got lucky' due to the K-Pg extinction event". If they showed the End-Triassic extinction in detail, it would reveal that dinosaurs themselves were also just the "clade that got lucky", (and in fact most, if not all, of the organisms that survived extinction events are part of "clades that got lucky"). Portraying them like that goes against the themes of "superior Dynasties usurping inferior ones".
@@dimetrodon2250exactly lmao using LOOPs flawed logic I could say dinosaurs are smarter and just coincidentally are somehow better for their environment compared to non mammalian synapsids and alot of triassic pseudosuchians right when they need to be, they completely ignore there's no superiority it's just that when environments change so does the wildlife
I dont like the framing of evolution as some epic battle for supremacy. Evolution doesn't always make things more efficient or ideal. It just finds a way to perpetuate existence, however that may be. If I hear the word "dynasty" one more time, I'm going to overdose on cringe.
even ‘perpetuate existence’ is not so clear cut. Many organisms only live for very limited periods of time. Basically if it breeds its deformities live on. People need to stop trying to find rhyme and reason where there isnt. Not every anatomy has an efficient purpose, most have a functional score of c minus.
I was honestly kinda let down by what the trailers showed it as vs what it actually is. I was expecting a lot more prehistoric content, and what we did get, just had too many little inaccuracies or out dated ideas for me personally.
I wish it was something closer to the "Walking with Dinosaurs/Monsters/Sea Monsters" series rather than "Here's like 20% prehistoric animals, 70% modern animals and then like a sprinkle of prehistoric animals again"
I'd rather watch a regular nature documentary or a regular paleo documentary than one that switches between the two trying to make comparisons. Theres also just way to many of the same creatures from the Walking With series and feels unoriginal at times. I wanted to see something new that your average kid doesnt know already. Its also fairly obvious the inclusion of modern wildlife was for filler and to reduce the need for CGI. Overall I'd give it a 7/10 for looking amazing.
Same conclusions. This show is quite disappointing. The episode that was to be solely on dinosaurs, was 70% on modern day insects, flowers, and mammals and 30% on actual dinosaurs. And as you said, most the dinosaurs were covered in WWD, which has CGI leagues better than this show.
The CGI for the dinosaurs felt realistic but also felt off in my opinion. The Cenozoic creatures were my favorite, just doesn’t to the movement and design. Over all. 6/10
I agree. For example, the Phorusrhacos design is great, and the mimicry stand-off was believable but I wish they did more than just shriek at each other. I mean, these birds were related to seriemas, have them make a similar call, bobbing their neck up and down or something.
@@Hi_Im_Ethanthe fur felt too soft and clean on the various mammals. Didn’t help that prehistoric planet set an extremely high bar in terms of realism and fidelity
A lot of the animations looked more like the animals were in an improv acting class rather than a normal environment. The movements are slightly exaggerated and it feels so off
The Triceratops (complete with the same awful galloping animation), Allosaurus (probably the Sinraptor too), and perhaps some of the sauropods (the Diplodocus looked pretty much like the Apatosaurus, at least the head) were definitely remodels of the Jurassic World models. It makes sense considering ILM worked on both, and no doubt had the files on hand. Aside from that, one of my other problems was the constant Jurassic styled roaring the prehistoric carnivores were doing (and reuse of Jurassic sound effects, particularly the T. rex). What a stark contrast from showing the extant carnivores. I think the extant, Paleozoic, and some of the Cenozoic were the strongest segments. There was quite a bit of inaccurate designs, such as the slightly modified Jurassic World designs, the T. rex with too many teeth, etc, or some inaccurate info given at times, like the terror bird being driven to extinction by Smilodon (which should have been the much smaller S. gracilis, and not one of the larger species), and more. I did love that Arandaspis finally got to feature in a documentary though. One of my favorite prehistoric fish since I was a kid. Same as the early Triassic big headed Erythrosuchus which I've come to enjoy in recent years. Favorite scene is probably the one with the Doedicurus and Smilodon, and the Lystrosaurus stuff. I think the Megacerops, Dunkleosteus, Inostrancevia, and Scutosaurus had decent scenes, and designs.
The Alamosaurus also ends up galloping in the tsunami segment, lots of em, even though for a Titanosaur that's physically impossible but they did it anyway
@@kade-qt1zu Sinraptor was remodelled from the Battle at Big Rock allosaurus, but aside from the croc skin along the back and some of the texture it's actually not too bad, in fact it's one of the better dinosaurs in the documentary 😀
Arandaspis made an appearance in a palaeo doc called Miracle Planet that I saw when I was a teen. It's fairly obscure outside of Japan iirc, so I would not be surprised if you hadn't heard of it before
I'm at the penultimate episode and, although it's not a bad series, I have to say that Walking with, 20 years later, remains superior in terms of narration and use of effects.
walking with series is still better than prehistoric planet and any other prehistoric documentary series ever. dont think we can top it unless we copy its style with upgraded graphics
I think Netflix missed a big opertunity with this show, even though some parts were good. I think there was to much screentime of the todays scenes and, regardless to that opinion, I liked them better for most parts. When I said I like them more, its only in comarison to the prehistoric parts. I have seen it before, countless times, only much better. This series should have just stayed in prehistoric times until the time period of today came in the last episode. That would have let us get invested to the periods plants and animals and we actually got to learn more. The prehistoric animals, even tough with new and exciting spieces, didnt show for anything new and exciting. They didnt explore the animals by giving them own traits and behaviors that was likely for them to have. They more or less just showed them as predators and herbivores nothing more. I felt that the gorgonopsid, along with most other predators shown, got the Hollywood treatment - scary growling with sounds that always resemble a big cat, because it sound cool. The growling alsohappen in a hunting scene, which dosent make sense. So the focus on being cool is clearly more important than showing correct behavior. Like many other, the t-rex is my favorite dinosaur. We know so much about this animal, despite being extinct for 66 million years. It had better vison than a eagle, better smell than a bloodhound and could move silent as a cat towards its prey. This animal were peak of evolution, the ultimate predator. This was a perfect opertunity for this series to show of evolutions potensial when it comes to a species, which is premise of it? There are so many theories about this animal and so much to explore, yet still they gave us nothing. It wasnt any different from the t-rex wee see in the Jurassic World series. The best scene of the prehistoric animals was the young smilodon exploring life. It felt real because that behavior is real. The constant scenes of comparison between the prehistoric and current animals was unecessary, when all that was needed was a sentence. I didnt need 5 minuets looking at frogs trying to eat dragonflies.
One thing I noticed as a problem with consistency was the mother T.Rex had a brightly colored face like the male when late the show we see another female T.Rex that did not have a brightly colored face.
Personally it jumped too many times I only watched the first episode but in that one episode alone it jumped like every 5 minutes to a different period it never let you sit there and enjoy a story or scene without skipping to another only to cut the next one off for the first scene
I really thought were just gonna see smilodons duke it out with the terror bird before it made like 3 jumps instantly building the cutting off sever stories at the same time it was just too much a drew away from each story
Most people seem to hate on this series, I really enjoyed it! I like all the prehistoric animals that were featured in this series my favorites had to be the Terror Birds doing the intimidation dance in the first episode, the Arthropleura scenes, Maiasaura scene, and the scutosaurus gorgonopspid hunt. I do wish they could of shown more animals in the past. For example in the Paleozoic Meganeura would of been a great showing, because they talked about dragonflies in that episode. I also really wished we saw some of the other famous dinosaurs like Ceolophysis, Stegosaurus, and a few other dinosaurs from the cretaceous. I also wished they could shown more marine reptiles (like Ichthyosaurs and other plesiosaurs) and more pterosaurs. and in the Cenozoic, I wish they would of shown Basilasaurus right after we saw Maiacetus, and It would been cool if they showed how mammals got big in the Oligocene like seeing Paraceratherium, entelodonts and hyeanadons. I also wouldn't mind if we saw more scenes with the smilodons because they were outstanding in this series. But with all that said I really did enjoy this series and liked the fact that they moved between modern day and the past. Overall I'd give this series and 8.5/10!
@@nickmendelsohn4942 -that it was mainly about the past as advertised -no jp remodels, that's the laziest you can get. -not dubious scientific nonsense like -smilodon making titans extinct or that evolution implies the reign of a species over the other -not carnivore bias
@@spinosaurusstriker those are good points and I understand that. But they advertised that they would show stories of the past and present so you can’t be upset about that.
I like this review. It feels like balanced criticism and you've got a good grasp of some of the constraints the production was faced with. I'm happy you didn't go all-in on the 'jumping around in time' criticism and get that it provides context and that there were budgetary constraints. I think that stepping back, in LOOP we have a documentary that was aimed for as wide an audience as possible, but one that still wanted to communicate factual information and context around life's most important evolutionary events. This, for me, is what documentaries should be trying to do. I therefore think it's still the best available. And whilst the palaeo community might celebrate Prehistoric Planet for the visual spectacle, the (dinosaur) model accuracy, and GCI, the amount of factual and contextual information communicated isn't in the same league as LOOP. The big palaeo documentaries aren't communicating science in the same way, so comparisons between them are difficult and ultimately, it comes down to the reception of the target audience. I'd love to see an analysis of their efficacy, in terms of knowledge transfer, enjoyment and inspiration.
It felt weird having animals roaring and growling and hissing for no reason like some JP monsters. And the made up behaviors too; like when the Terrorbirds went to duke it out over territory and ended up doing the Flamingo dance because "ancient ritual" was cooler than combat? How would we even know something like that, and why assume something so silly? And the hunting and killing scenes felt like over hyped flops. The predators hardly make contact before their prey magically just falls over and dies. The only hunt I really liked in the early episodes was that early reptile hunting the Lystrosaurs. Oh and then there's the jumbled timeline, I think I saw the era of flowering plants happen three distinct times and I'm not even finished all the episodes. They go back and forth so much, showcasing the total extinction and annihilation of the dinosaurs just to have sauropods chilling a few minutes later because we went back in time again. It feels like there's little congruence and like 5 people who all wanted to make a different documentary all got their way at the same time this is what we got as a result. All in all enjoyed it for what it was, didn't really learn anything new. It's all incredibly basic, but eye catching.
the documentery made a lot of speculations without saying that it was speculative. So I feel like now its going to have a whole host of people believing that these speculative behaviors are true.
I really like that Gorgonopsid. They tend to suffer pretty badly from shrink-wrapping. But that one is good and chunky. And its well into the Uncanny Valley with mammals; which feels appropriate.
I hate how stupid it gets sometimes like still making herbivores weak like that Trike running from a Rex, diplodocus (with JW Apatosaurus design) being scared of Allosaurus (JW design) or that Titanis getting killed so easily by the Smilodons, not fighting back and oh god... That Deinonichus....
What do you mean by the Trike running from the T-rex? that isn't being "weak," it's called taking a chance to get away. Take wildebeest and buffalos for example. Lions can chase them down even though a buffalo can quite literally send a lion 6ft over. If the Trike were to be cornered, then it would square up, then the T-rex would either try its luck or walk away as it is not worth it no more.
@@brokenjohnassexum0929Yeah… that is complete bs. It is honestly annoying how often Triceratops isn’t given respect. These guys were large, strong, and more than capable of fighting off a Tyrannosaurus.
@@infernowolf8914 In theory yes but a lot of clues point to Triceratops being a common prey of Tyrannosaurus. It wouldn't be the case if they were that tough. It's very likely that their horns were used mostly for show and intra-specific competition more than to fend off predators. @handman360 pointed to buffalos running away from lions. Now buffalos weigh about four times more than a lion. A Triceratops would be only slightly heavier than a T. Rex (and probably less agile). It's very likely that Triceratops were not that dangerous to an adult Tyrannosaurus and would often run away.
I mean the documentary would be better if they're on chronological orders. I mean we'll start in the precambrian when life is just microscopic and as each episodes progresses we progresses through each time periods and eras like the paleozoic and stuff. They kinda need to add more prehistoric animals to the series because there are a little too much modern day animals and the ones im not that interested on. I mean the dinos are only T-rex, edmontosaurus(it looks more like corythosaurus), sinraptor(when i watch the trailer for the first time, i thought it was kelmayisaurus), anchiornis, triceratops, alamosaurus, allosaurus and diplodocus(i might miss some cuz they're the ones i remember). They could have added more dinos like Giganotosaurus, Tarbosaurus, albertosaurus, Eocharcaria, Majungasaurus, Argentinosaurus, Mapusaurus, Kentrosaurus etc. Instead of interrupting us with facts about modern day animals when we're literally watching the Dinosaur part of the documentary or other parts other than the Modern day Animals, they should mention Modern day Animals that lived with the dinosaurs or in the paleozoic era. Examples: , jellyfish, tuatara, bees, star fish etc.
If ypu notice the ed is just a copyright of maiasaura from first episode even part of the sxene is just same when the mother maia came vack to nest they reused this scene with the ed
If I had to choose which one had good cgi, I would choose Prehistoric Planet. Plus the show names what prehistoric creature it is and goes into some detail about it. For narrator, David Attenborough and Morgan Freeman or both equally good.
I felt like they did the carboniferous period dirty, they are in it for like 5 minutes when they could have had a whole episode on it and how amazing it is. It was good but the modern day took me really out of it at times
There is no such thing as "perfectly adabted" or "perfect predator". Tyrannosaurus is described as the "ultimate predator". Well, then it must have had a 100% success rate when hunting, right? Simply by going after success rate would mean a seahorse is far closer to being a perfect predator than Tyrannosaurus is (seahorse success rate is 90%). If its ultimate, then it must be able to survive in almost any time period and any environment... Also they called a Maiasaura "defenseless".
I don't think that's what they mean when they say ultimate as, in the same documentary, T. rex failed two hunts. I think they just mean its the largest land predator. Describing it as ultimate is more of an opinion of the documentary.
My ears definitely perked up when I heard "defenseless Maiasaura". Perpetuating the tired trope that hadrosaurs were helpless prey animals that only served the ecological role of theropod fodder.
THANK YOU! I was so mad about the maiasaura thing! Like what? Just their size and strength make hadrosaurs powerful. They even show how they use power in numbers for herd defense. Meanwhile they say triceratops is nothing like the defenseless Maiasaura but then show it doing the exact same herd defense?! Why is it maiasaura defenseless when it does it but triceratops not??
House cats are the greatest of all time, they are the most adaptable and successful. Size doesn't mean anything. Beside most scientists agree T-rex was a slow scavenger.
2 things they did really well- 1) They individualised the dinosaur behaviours quite well. By that I mean they didn’t just make 1 walk cycle and copy paste it onto the entire herd like you see happens in most dinosaur documentaries. 2) the photography was gorgeous! Making the series an excellent screen saver/ hdr test reel for my tv.
Pretty much all the big theropods looked inspired by the Game of Thrones dragons, with very dextrous lips, permanent scowls, and lots of little teeth. I also agree with your critiques. Pretty good all around though.
I enjoyed how they explained the general rules of life by examining today’s life. I studied biodiversity, and my fav part was how everything alive today is the result of 4 billion years of history. How the planet and climate interplay with life, how they affected one another through time, and what came of it. And how everything today exists by those same rules. I think they showed that quite beautifully. It’s simpler imagining past life exhibiting fascinating behavior by examining today’s animals just being weird and wonderful. It’s really humbling to me, for some reason. Also great seeing some representation for pre-mesozoic animals! We don’t get nearly enough documentaries on these amazing critters
I think the modern day segments were incredible and showed things that i’ve never seen before and presented with beautiful and artistic cinematography. However, the prehistoric ones ranged from average to underwhelming… there was an oversaturation of hunting in the prehistoric segments, it got tiring very fast.
The Lystrosaurus sequence @ 7:18 is probably my favorite because they have such personality, they looked so cute and wholesome, I had my own thought bubble of what they were saying to each other when I watched that scene. Cuuuute!!!
As a long time paleo nerd that grew up on the walking with series I was honestly bitterly disappointed in this show. 20 years of science since walking with and this was the best they could do. Morgan freeman sounds largely uninterested in what he’s describing for the duration of the show. You can tell that some creatures were made by people who actually cared and others were made by people who didn’t and were focussed on getting it done. That allosaurus model was truly an abomination and whoever made it has clearly only watched Jurassic world for reference. The minute it came on screen all I could think was please please don’t let that be an Allo but of course it was. All the sauropods and trikes had elephant feet, theropods should not be roaring like lions, too many rookie mistakes for so many years of science. For me this show merely joins the ranks of the ‘you tried’ genre. I’ve sincerely seen better more realistic prehistoric models and behaviour in games like path of the titans or the isle.
Plus the baba rex who looks like mini adults a frickong adult trike who can't kill rex when it been prooved copy of the maiasaura design with the ed even the scene whzn the mother ed goes to it nest is the exact same as with the maia not mentionning the babies
I don't think it was an amazing documentary or anything but I had a fun time with time with it for sure. What bothered me the most was probably that the colour of the sky sometimes during the cgi segments looked weird(?), the cambrian feeling incredibly empty and that allosaurus design.. very big emphasis on that design. Overall I'd give like maybe a 6/10 or 7/10 because I still had a good time but eh.
New drinking game: take a shot every time the show says "dynasty". I'm gonna copy and paste a comment I made somewhere else about my thoughts on the show: "It was mediocre. Not only was there a lot of outdated information, I just found the show to be incredibly boring. The pacing was all over the place and too much time was spent during the present. The idea of comparing modern ecosystems to their prehistoric counterparts isn’t a bad idea on paper. In fact, another docu-series did this significantly better than LOOP; The Future Is Wild. It’s a show about the opposite; what life could be like millions of years in the future. You had your future ecosystems, with brief snippets of modern day environments and animals that were used to explain the show’s reasoning for coming up with their speculative depictions. For example, 100 million years in the show’s future, there’s a group of octopus-like creatures that congregate on swampland to raise their young. The show very briefly goes back to present day to show how octopus are more than capable of venturing on to land for brief periods of time, but the show doesn’t spend half the episode’s runtime there. It gets the point across in a concise manner, then goes back to the future (pun intended lol). The show executed this idea very poorly in my opinion. The episode that was supposed to be about the heyday of the dinosaurs spend a good part of the runtime talking about termites and ants. While I’m all for shedding light on lesser-known Mesozoic animals, it spent WAY too much time on the wrong animals. I would have rather seen some early Jurassic dinosaur like Dilophosaurus, animals that appeared right after the Triassic-Jurassic extinction, than termites, just saying. What should have been two sentences at most ended up being like 10-15 minutes. A lot of people have mentioned the show’s inaccuracies; Titanis vs Smilodon and their designs, the Allosaurus’s God-awful butchering of the Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock model, Triceratops “needing a herd to be safe from T.rex”, and PACK HUNTING DROMAEOSAURS AGAIN, just to name a few. However, my personal least favorite scene involves the Lystrosaurus’s supposed reason for extinction. The show claims that they were simply hunted to extinction by newly-evolved archosaurs because they were too naive to see them as a threat. They were treated as mindless meat wagons just waiting to die. Keep in mind that before that scene, Lystrosaurus was depicted as highly adaptable, and was one of the lucky few to survive the worst mass extinction ever. I find it extremely hard to believe they, in their likely billions, just let themselves be killed off. It was more likely environmental factors and competition from newly-evolved herbivores that lead to their decline, and it’s not like Dicynodonts just started struggling. They persisted throughout the rest of the Triassic just fine. LOOP straight up copied Prehistoric Planet’s homework about T.rex courtship, too. It wasn’t the worst scene in the show, but I feel PP did it better. TLDR; bad, boring show that spreads terrible misinformation and did Allosaurus and Lystrosaurus extremely dirty. 4.5/10"
This is probably only an issue for people who have seen loads of palaeodocumentaries, but I was just so tired of seeing the same tropes of the same animals. There’s so much more that T rex and triceratops, smilodon and terror bird, allosaurus and diplodocus. They’ve all been done before
Don't worry about if you're nitpicking or not. This is a documentary, not Jurassic Park, and a documentary presents facts. If something is wrong and easily shouldn't have been, it has failed in that aspect. The Allosaurus design was atrocious, the constant roaring was mind-numbingly enraging, the prey animals were belittled (namely Triceratops and the mammoth), presenting the never ending misleading 'saber tooth cats drove terror birds to extinction' theory, and especially the way evolution was presented as a battle for dominance and supremacy of the world was awful. And don't advertise your product as a prehistory documentary if 70% of it is modern day footage. All that being said, while all in all a large portion of this documentary disappointed me, it certainly deserves compliments to what it did right. I thought the Cambrian period was portrayed beautifully, although more diversity could have been shown but y'know, budget, along with the Arthropleura section. The Lystrosaurus segment was fairly good too. And the highest honor I can give this documentary is its very persistent assertion that birds are dinosaurs, which even Prehistoric Planet failed at at times (such as the Pectinodon scene). I am so sick of hearing about the 'extinction of the dinosaurs,' because they literally did not go extinct. That's like calling the end of the Carboniferous the 'extinction of the insects' because all the large ones died out. Props to this documentary for having a whole section about the dinosaurs that survived the extinction.
@qbgrindddd You're right, but I really think we should work on changing it, as it's not really accurate. Should be referred to as the extinction of the non-avian dinosaurs.
Aside from the accuracy issues with both overall storyline and finer details, the presentation makes this thing really hard to follow while not showing what things actually were like in the past.
Despite some huge problems, I honestly enjoyed it, but sadly more as entertainment Hated the T-Rex hunt scene tho, a Trike could easily fight back and would absolutely DEMOLISH those babies lol
Yeah it was bullshit that it ran away like a little birch rather then defending itself. It just didn’t fight back at all man. I get that it was running to its herd, but that still doesn’t excuse it.
I waited for this show so impatiently and was left so disappointed... Not only it's badly structured/confusing, but the quality of the portrayal of the extinct animals was so poor (and even hilariously bad at times) that I just lost interest and stopped watching it. I don't think I'll ever finish it, to be honest. The worst animations were the hunting ones, with a 200 kg feline instant-killing a multi-ton fat/fur-armoured mammoth by jumping at its side. The herbivores literally just lie down and die on their own, I guess because they haven't taken their antidepressants that morning. The designs of the animals are strange and scientifically inaccurate more often than not; which is such a horrible shame. Was it so hard to at least check the photographs of the skulls and legs? All in all, I was so very disappointed. My SO actually laughed at the animations or weird cuts a few times (T-rex mother teleporting or disappearing from behind the running triceratops then reappearing in the next cut), or kelenken (if it was even a kelenken - they never even said) screeching randomly at the lake for no reason before even meeting the other one or getting insta-killed by a smilodon. I guess we shouldn't have hyped ourselves up this much if we wanted to enjoy it at all.
The mammoth/lion take down was a direct reference from a lion taking down an African elephant filmed today. Given cave lions were larger and woolly mammoths smaller, scientists we consulted on the series said it was 100% accurate that they could have taken down a juvenile mammoth in this way. The animal doesn't die straight away - as seen a few shots on.
@@sajlanfear Sorry, but no. You can watch a single 250-300 kg wildebeest stand against 2 or 3 lions hanging off of it and the struggle can last a long time. And even after that one single antelope is down it is still alive and kicking when the lions start to devour it. If you think a thick skinned, wooled, 3000-4000+ kg elephantid just falls down and dies from a 200 kg lion jump (btw, that's the same ratio as you being taken down instantly by a 3kg animal, like a house cat, by a single bite) - I have some bricks to sell you. Not to mention that the animation of the movements and the death is atrocious (I work as a digital artist in game development). Everything looks so fake and unnatural.
@thecat3059 Dude, the cat and goat go off screen over a bluff. Then all you hear is an inserted sound clip, a pause, and the other goats looking stunned. We can't see what's behind the bluff. They do a cold cut to a vertical downwards shot on the two bodies. There's no debris or disturbances in the surrounding snow. Not even marks from water droplets that would have eaten through the snow. And the animals dont quite look like they belong in the shot. I think it's a fake shot for drama.
I feel like they were trying to show a Mosasaur but ended up reusing the pliosaur model because they probably went "they look the same anyway" which is sad.
I feel like I would have enjoyed it more if it was advertised more accurately ie the majority focus on modern day life. If you’re expecting a documentary focusing on the past you may be disappointed. If you go in thinking is a documentary about life and how our modern day animals came to be, with flash backs to elements of their origin, then I think you will be primed to enjoy this show more.
I think most people fail to see the real message of the documentary, and it really is sad that this is the case. The main message of it all is: we have to take care of the Earth, because otherwise we are bound to the same ruthless rules that made more than 90% of animals go extinct. My favorite part was the ecological message at the end, when the narrator, after explaining how CO2 caused a mass extinction, how poisoning and dying oceans caused another tells us we are doing exactly the same, willingly, without thinking about what it will cause. And then saying: "and after all mass extinctions the dominant life form went extinct, why do we think it will be different with us?". And for that sentence to have that much weight they had to go through all the struggles life went during the eons before us. The documentary is one about the life, all its history. Not about dinosaurs, not about the Cenozoic. That is why the first chapter very simply explains the rules of nature that in the end dictate which organisms survive and which do not. In the end surviving is the main goal of life, and calling each species or family of animals a "dynasty" was imho a clear way to show the wider public that no animal was safe from cataclysms. And that goes back to the main message. Conservation and responsibility for the life on our planet!
Another thing i didnt like was the idea that the reptiles hunting listrosaurus came out of nowhere. Where did it come from? How do we know the listrosaurus died off to it like the dodo did when we ran across them?
I appreciated the coverage of prehistoric areas outside the dynasty of Dinosaurs and very much enjoyed seeing how the earth itself changed during these periods but I don’t think I’m alone in thinking id have preferred much less of the modern day flash-forwards and had more time with the aforementioned prehistoric settings. It lacked a fair amount of substance in those areas and there are already plenty of modern day life documentary’s that showcase these animals much better imo. As a result it felt fairly weak on both prehistoric and modern story arcs as they were all very short.
It is interesting to see species living in today's world that still are alive today or has evolved. There are a lot of species that are way older than our species, which is 200,000 years old. As a Netflix documentary, I think it is a bit better than other Netflix documentaries earlier, which only seem to focus on CGI and not the fact bits.
As a butterfly person, I appreciated the segment in the first episode on the arm space between Heliconia butterflies and passion, flower vines The soundtrack was also out of this world But my greatest disappointment was also the fact that this show was clearly advertised as a fully immersive prehistoric reconstruction documentary, when it turned out to be more than half otherwise The diversity of the prehistoric scenes was also low, presumably because they just wanted to show a prehistoric counterpart to different aspects of the modern world Finally, as a student of ancient human cultures and dynasties, I agree with the other comments saying that there is a political narrative saying the species that are here today survived, because of their superior adaptive potentials It’s literally like showing classical statues of a glorified mythical past to legitimize a current regime, not unlike the recent pharaohs parade in Egypt (which also had epic music, coincidence?) The species that best supported this narrative got amazing aesthetic detail, and everything else just didn’t exist
I wasn't so keen on them portraying early mammals as just these little pitiful rodents, when we have fossil evidence of a mammal predating on a dinosaur larger than itself.
They made the gorgonopsid act like a cat… I understand that it’s a mammal ancestor, but the behavior it should have had should have been an evolutionary step between reptiles and mammals in my opinion. Cunning and intelligent to a degree, but still be a bit of an ambush predator.
You have to see this series in the context of prehistoric planet. And it makes perfect sense why it has this format. The latest view of dinosaurs is that dinosaurs were just animals, not plotting or evil monsters. they all had their own niches and ecological role. Prehistoric planet tried to display that in a format similar to the succesfull planet earth-like format, even getting the classic david the goat himself. BUT it did something that some might not agree with. It got speculative and passed it of as scientific. The problem is, we know dinosaurs had these SORTS of behavior but we can't know how it was precisely. So which one is a more true portrayal. A portrayal where we leave out the the layer of behavior or one where we speculate on plausible possibilities. Since you can argue for both, logically, tv-makers will choose to go with the newer thing. And they did. But expectingly they got some small backlash. Now netflix seen this unfold, and seen apple+ tv take the risk or reception by the public. It goes well - now netflix doesn't have to take risk of the format - and they try to rush out the series as fast as possible. People expect a series that displays dinosaurs like true animals. But they don't have the same budget nor production experience / time and research. So they choose a format that minimalizes risk of getting backlash on grounds of legitimacy and cuts back on expensive cgi. They show footage of the known pararel behavior itself. Instead of filling the whole scene with actual bbc-like footage like prehistoric planet. Even lower budget documentaries do a similar thing with experts filling screen time. But this won't feel 'new' like prehistoric planet did, so they go with parallel behavior footage instead.
While there are a lot of good aspects to this documentary, I'm... utterly baffled by the decision of another Amblin property to dedicate a major portion of the main dinosaur subject matter to the lives of insects. Again. The second time since Dominion.
Eh, I thought this was supposed to be a documentary focusing on different prehistoric life, not just dinosaurs? If anything, that would be my main gripe. The show focused a lot on animals that have already been featured heavily in previous prehistoric documentaries, so I was hoping they would delve more into into lesser known periods and species.
I got the impression when watching it that this wasn't really made for prehistoric buffs and I knew after the trailers they would all be disappointed. I personally enjoyed it quite a lot, I think a lot of the modern day scenes were highlights as they showed a lot of behaviours not commonly shown in nature documentaries but it seems a lot of people are glossing over this and focusing on the prehistoric inaccuracies which I understand but I think treating this show as a pure prehistoric documentary is wrong but in fairness the marketing certainly didn't help its case there.
Definitely Kelenken. Triceratops was pulled from Jurassic Park, probably as a nod to Spielberg. My wife and I watched the whole series. But we were disappointed that the prehistoric animals were just window dressing and framing elements. If we had wanted to watch a documentary about modern life and our planet we would have. Do you think it was a money saving move?
My opinion on the show was that it was pretty "meh". Too many modern animal scenes, too much jumping back and forth in time, too many science goofs (Pliosaurs in the Late Cretaceous?), too much summarizing without context, the Triassic/Jurassic extinction was completely glossed over (despite the other four mass extinctions each being brought up in detail), and the final episode was openly Misanthropic. The target audience of this show was clearly the Normies, not Paleontology nerds. My dad was confused by the show's off-hand reference to the Carnian Pluvial Episode, so I had to pull up a PBS Eons video to explain it to him; I shouldn't have to do this with a Dinosaur show. If _Prehistoric Planet_ and _Walking With Dinosaurs_ are both S-tier, _When Dinosaurs Roamed America_ and _Planet Dinosaur_ are both A-tier, and _Dinosaur Revolution_ and _Amazing Dinoworld_ are both B-tier, then _Life On Our Planet_ would be C-tier at best.
Idk if its just been a million years since I watched an animated prehistoric animal doc, but I just felt like a lot of the animation and scenarios can feel so stilted at times. Obviously its a planned/scripted sequence, but I just think they didnt do a good enough job masking that. Even tho the models and rendering was all exceptional, I think the animation direction itself needed more feeling of spontaneity.
The production wasn't hyperfocused on the dinosaurs, so it is a bit lacking in that regard, i assume the budget for the series wasn't on par with an apple+ production. But i think it's important to remember that this isn't a dinosaur documentary. It comes off to me that some people expected something more revolving on the dinosaurs, rather than what the show actually was in the end. I found Mr.Freeman as narrator quite unexpected but i think he did good.
It was ultimately just okay IMHO. Most of the Paleozoic and Cenozoic segments were great, but the show gets dragged down by presenting misinformation such as treating evolution as a battle between dynasties, the outdated BS of sabre-toothed cats being the cause of extinction for terror birds, and T. rexes hunting in multigenerational family packs. I give it a 7/10, not terrible, but could have been so much better.
Now, hold on…. the fact that Sabre-Toothed Cats outcompeted Terror Birds to extinction and that Tyrannosaurus rex hunted in family packs are not misinformation at all. Those are two well-known theoretical facts. None of that’s anything to yawn or sneeze at.
@@anthonybusch4407 Sorry, but that's just not true at all, and both have already been out of date for at least a decade. The idea that terror birds (or any native South American predator) were wiped out by placentals from the north (like saber-toothed cats) has already been debunked a decade ago. The timing of the decline and extinction of native South American predators such as terror birds utterly fails to match with the timing of the arrival of placental predators in Great American Biotic Interchange (GABI), as the native South American predators were already extinct BEFORE the GABI even occurred. Titanis island-hopped north early and established itself in (what was then) woodland and swampy environments in the Southern US, then big phorusrhacids disappeared in South America (but the small ones persisted until around the last Ice Age), and only then did most of the interchange happen. Titanis itself only disappeared right when there was another major cooling event and grasslands spread, which several lineages of NA mammals preferred. Notably, the Smilodon species (S. gracilis) that lived with Titanis was rather small (more likely that Titanis would have hunted it rather than the other way round), and Smilodon only grew bigger AFTER Titanis went extinct. As paleontologist Alex Rubenstahl said: "The whole "x were outcompeted by y" argument for just about any major clade in prehistory is pretty tenuous. Very few have held up as sampling improves - see Eurypterids and jawed fish. If such competition occurred, the fossil record may be too sparse to actually detect it." As for Tyrannosaurus hunting in family packs, the idea just makes zero sense based on what we actually know about tyrannosaurid life history. It counters everything we know about tyrannosaurs' ontogeny and ecology, it has zero known analogue (not even in mammals) and ultimately there is zero reasons for it to be positively selected as a strategy. Large prey would be dangerous to juveniles, while the smaller agile prey juvies hunted would be insufficient to feed adults, let alone an entire family. This "complementary" dynamic just does not exist at all. Heck, the adults are already faster than any primary prey targets, which renders the rationale for this strategy completely pointless. The general “strategy” of the hunt as proposed by Currie and featured in the early 2000’s (WDRA and Dinosaur Planet) is common in nature. The problem with using this to justify tyrannosaurids in family packs is that in nature the hunting parties entirely consist of adults. The idea of tyrannosaurids hunting as in crocodilians and Komodo dragons? Sure. Members of the same age group cooperatively hunting together (like in Prehistoric Planet's tyrannosaurs)? Still quite likely and believable. Family gang strategy? A completely nonsensical and unviable hunting strategy. So yes, both ideas are no longer taken seriously by most as they have been debunked (especially the notion that sabre-toothed cats wiped out terror birds, heck even Walking with Beasts gave the added nuance that Titanis was doing well in North America, unlike LOOP), presenting them as fact is actually misinformation at this point as neither has a place of being presented as fact in a 2023 documentary.
@@anthonybusch4407 Look up Prevosti, Francisco J; Forasiepi, Analía; Zimicz, Natalia (2013). "The Evolution Of The Cenozoic Terrestrial Mammalian Predator Guild In South America: Competition Or Replacement?", the idea of sabre-toothed cats (or any North American placental carnivore) driving native Cenozoic apex predators of South America into extinction is no longer seriously considered for years. You cannot deny the objective reality that the timeline between the extinction of the native SA predators and the arrival of the NA carnivores just doesn't match up, and Titanis itself coexisted fine with sabre-toothed cats for at least 3 million years (a long existence for a single species) before finally succumbing to climate change. As for multigenerational tyrannosaur family packs, it's one of those things that seems like neat idea for behaviour on paper, but quickly falls apart if you ask any ethologist.
What you’ve said are actually partially correct. Pliosauroids are still a part of Plesiosauria, so it’s technically not incorrect but kinda misleading. Pliosaurs did live till the Late Cretaceous like Megacephalosaurus in Turonian, but just not the latest of Cretaceous like the Maastrichtian. Now you might ask isn’t Turonian “middle Cretaceous”, but the “middle Cretaceous” is not an official term as of yet, and Turonian is still part of Late Cretaceous.
As much as I understand the decision to switch between prehistory and modern times, I didn't really like it. I personally would prefer it to be "a slice of life" in prehistoric times like in Walking With series. I'm afraid that the structure this show has would turn off both paleontology fans who would be annoyed by clips of modern (still amazing, but you know..) animals; and casual natur-doc fans who would likely get confused by all these otherworldy extinct creatures
I need to know why do documentaries think a Trex or any historical predator will roar at its prey, like it’s giving it a heads up , from five feet away before charging at it….. and roars again after it took its prey down like it conquered king kong. in real life a tiger does not roar at its prey. It sneaks up and immediately pounces.
Personally, I found the series a solid 5/10. It had a lot of potential, but they recycled a lot of the CGI shots, and the music was cycling constantly, some variation could have done the series better. With that being said, the quality of the series was phenomenal. The CGI was beautiful, and music was beautiful - my issue with the series lies at heart with the reuse of a lot of the series.
I give it a 4.5/10. The treatment of evolution as a competition between dynasties sounds like something out of Jurassic Fight Club, and the designs ranged from decent to abysmal, but I did like how the show showed life on earth as a whole. Not just dinosaurs, but also arthropods, plants, and more. Did they get them all right? No, there are some glaring errors, but between this and Dinosaur with Steven Fry, I think Life on Our Planet is alright. The ending was awesome though. I love how it starts inside an abandoned mall reclaimed by nature, before expanding to a Last of Us-style post apocalyptic city. The modified Jurassic World models were pretty distracting though. And the drawn out shot of Deinonychus, Triceratops, Arkansaurus, Alamosaurus, and Pterodactylus looks like JWD's prologue all over again.
I will say this about the modern animal footage shown in this series: it is great. It would have been nice to see more prehistoric animals, but I do like what they show for modern animals. That being said, I do agree that the framing of evolution as a battle for supremacy does get grating at times.
I have to admit that i was fasting forward each to the modern day clips came on screen. I was not intereste in those, but only in the prehistoric parts. Also it just think that there was more focus on being interesting and scary that accurate throughout the show. I mean it is supposed to be a documentary, not a cool movie. So yeah, i like prehistoric planet more. Though i have to say the Allosaurus segment was very cool, and probably my favorite🙂
The thing about portraying clades as Dynasties who are vying for supremacy and are out competing other Dynasties will inevitably lead to a misrepresentation of biological turnover. A good example of this is the Paleogene and Eocene. In the period after the KT extinction event, various large mammals, birds, and reptiles evolved to fill the vacant niches that were available due to environmental succession. In the time periods following, large mammals continue to occupy most niches, while the large birds and reptiles are mostly absent. This may lead some to believe that the large mammals they lived alongside out-competed them, but as it turns out, this isn't the case. Instead, those Paleogene and Eocene mammals went extinct just the same as their bird and reptile contemporaries and different large mammals replaced them. If you look at this biological turnover at the end of the Paleogene and Eocene epochs under the concept of Dynasties, then it looks like the large birds and reptiles were the only casualties, since mammals are all under the "same dynasty"
I just want prehistoric planet to do a ceno version lol but not one placed in the ice age, (okay that would be cool too but I’m kind of tired of late ice age depicting the decline and extinction of ice age megafauna) but one placed in the early-mid ceno where there’s all sorts of crazy crocodillians and crazy early mammals of each developing group
I thought the show was okay, but that Allosaurus design just wasnt good... I honestly kind of like the Jurassic World design, but only as a Jurassic World design. It fits with that universe because it follows the rules of that universe. If you're making a documentary on the real thing though and your Allosaurus has osteoderms, then thats just ridiculous.
The modern day segments were a highlight??????? Absolutely not! There's a million modern day nature documentaries I could watch if I want, and jumping back and forth through time was confusing and derailed the experience. I still have an episode left, and I've gotten to the point where I just fast forward through the live action segments.
Okay honestly, I fucking hated how in the first episode they described Maiasaura as, “defenseless.” Like dude, Maiasaura is not a small animal, it weighs 3 tons for god’s sake. Just because it doesn’t have any armor or horns doesn’t mean it can’t beat your ass if it wanted to. It was also dumb how the Triceratops, instead of standing it’s grown against the Tyrannosaurus family, ran away like a little bitch. I know how in the episode it was running to its herd, but if you were getting attacking by a predator equal to your size and you are a slow ass armored herbivore, I don’t think your first instinct would be to run away.
Yeah! Hadrosaurs deserve respect! An edmontosaurus could knock a rex of its feet! And don't even get ne started on shantungosaurus! That thing was the largest non sauropod dino that we know of!!!
I did love the end of episode 5 when they ''tease'' humans as the the most dangerous species that ever lived. We were teased as a super villain. It was kinda epic but also really sad
Life began in Africa but the people where not future 😂 only white skins people in Africa 😂 and at the end western countries that was futured. It don't match up 😂 they only mentioned life started there and people migrated but nothing else 😂😂. Tarzan is also white jumping around Africa and looking really perfect doing it 😂 and the African/black people where were? I am just saying 🤔
I was super excited for this but tbh I’m not sure if it’s because of poor writing, I could really get past a few mins of the second episode. Unusual for because I love prehistoric content. Just felt somewhat disjointed and lack lustre
It’s as impressive as Prehistoric Planet 1 & 2, only with different time periods & different eras. But I wish both Prehistoric Planet 1 & 2 & Life on our Planet were released on DVD in America. Especially the 2nd Volume of Deadly Dinosaurs with Steve Backshall as well.
I think watching this after Prehistoric Planet was kinda difficult. The opening with the T-Rex had me slightly worried, since after it fails a hunt it just stands around roaring at the Triceratops herd despite its best interest being to conserve energy after it didn’t get food. The visual effects were great though, even if some of the dinosaurs look like their designs were ripped from Jurassic World (Allosaurus in particular)
I disliked the design of "Edmontosaurus". I kno they did it from the Maiasaura model, but they could just made a model for Edmontosaurus regalis, taking the crest for the ones at the extinction event, saying it's E. annectens and call it a day.
8:54 ish They literally have footage (Discovery channel orf Nat. Geo, or both) of African lions bring down elephant calves, I've seen them. It took a while! They really needed MORE animation reference and research!
I have a question for the CGI guys out there. Episode 7 theres a cheetah chase scene. Everything looks real until the wildebeest calf escapes and the cheetah has to book it away. The colors and movements look off from the norm. Wonderingbif anybody else spotted this and if y'all think its CGI or not.
the humans episode was disappointing, I thought they were gonna show us in that wonderous poetic light they gave to all the other animals but instead we got a big ol' finger wagging.
For why the dinosaurs looks similar to Jurassic World, it’s actually the same animators. They used models from the Jurassic World movies and tweaked them a little.
That arthropleaura mating scene was honestly one of the most beautiful scenes I’ve ever seen in a paleo documentary. I don’t know how to describe it but it made me realize “Wow, the past is beautiful.”
Agreed, easily the best sequence in the documentary.
Cringe with no evidence
Same here, so many gems in this series ❤
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i feel like if they wanted to save budget they could’ve had segments where they interview paleontologists and talk about the science behind the animals they’re portraying. it would’ve made the whole thing more cohesive instead of being like “we’re talking about cephalopods? here’s random footage of some other cephalopod lol.” i only watched the second episode cause i’m a big cambrian explosion fan and they spent awhile hyping it up as a beautiful diverse time period full of primitive animals covering the seafloor and then when they finally cut to the cambrian it’s just barren flat rock with only two animals. very strange
They did anomalocaris dirty, it was the FIRST apex predator, and all it does is fail to eat a trilobite…
Barren flat rocks with 2 animals are the peak of biodiversity wdym?
And then making the Ediacaran MODERN DAY ANIMALS
@@paxlashpredators sometimes fail
But it did got the Trilobite@@paxlash
For a documentary that emphasized the different mass extinctions, often explicitly saying "This was the [number] mass extinction", it was strange that they went over the End-Triassic mass extinction quite fast and without naming it as such an event.
It goes against the narrative of the metabolically-efficient dinosaurs out-competing the "slow and inefficient" reptiles and synapsids. LooP tries to do the whole "Dinosaurs ruled because they were superior, and mammals are the clade that 'got lucky' due to the K-Pg extinction event". If they showed the End-Triassic extinction in detail, it would reveal that dinosaurs themselves were also just the "clade that got lucky", (and in fact most, if not all, of the organisms that survived extinction events are part of "clades that got lucky"). Portraying them like that goes against the themes of "superior Dynasties usurping inferior ones".
@@dimetrodon2250exactly lmao using LOOPs flawed logic I could say dinosaurs are smarter and just coincidentally are somehow better for their environment compared to non mammalian synapsids and alot of triassic pseudosuchians right when they need to be, they completely ignore there's no superiority it's just that when environments change so does the wildlife
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it?
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it? @@dimetrodon2250
I dont like the framing of evolution as some epic battle for supremacy. Evolution doesn't always make things more efficient or ideal. It just finds a way to perpetuate existence, however that may be. If I hear the word "dynasty" one more time, I'm going to overdose on cringe.
Agreed the word 'Dynasty' alone makes it unbearable.
even ‘perpetuate existence’ is not so clear cut. Many organisms only live for very limited periods of time. Basically if it breeds its deformities live on. People need to stop trying to find rhyme and reason where there isnt. Not every anatomy has an efficient purpose, most have a functional score of c minus.
Ok nerd 🤓
If evolution doesn't have purpose, then why does it happen in the first place?
@@mhdfrb9971Evolution is just a natural process. There is no deeper meaning behind it.
I was honestly kinda let down by what the trailers showed it as vs what it actually is. I was expecting a lot more prehistoric content, and what we did get, just had too many little inaccuracies or out dated ideas for me personally.
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it?
@@dozierworld4350, I love this documentary,900/10 rating
I wish it was something closer to the "Walking with Dinosaurs/Monsters/Sea Monsters" series rather than "Here's like 20% prehistoric animals, 70% modern animals and then like a sprinkle of prehistoric animals again"
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it?
I'd rather watch a regular nature documentary or a regular paleo documentary than one that switches between the two trying to make comparisons.
Theres also just way to many of the same creatures from the Walking With series and feels unoriginal at times. I wanted to see something new that your average kid doesnt know already.
Its also fairly obvious the inclusion of modern wildlife was for filler and to reduce the need for CGI.
Overall I'd give it a 7/10 for looking amazing.
I agree, also there was an awful lot of obvious cover shots obscuring our view of kills and difficult animations.
Same conclusions. This show is quite disappointing. The episode that was to be solely on dinosaurs, was 70% on modern day insects, flowers, and mammals and 30% on actual dinosaurs. And as you said, most the dinosaurs were covered in WWD, which has CGI leagues better than this show.
The CGI for the dinosaurs felt realistic but also felt off in my opinion. The Cenozoic creatures were my favorite, just doesn’t to the movement and design.
Over all. 6/10
EXACTLY!! The CG feels realistic but off!!
THATS THE MOST PERFECT WAY OF PUTTING IT!
I agree. For example, the Phorusrhacos design is great, and the mimicry stand-off was believable but I wish they did more than just shriek at each other. I mean, these birds were related to seriemas, have them make a similar call, bobbing their neck up and down or something.
@@Hi_Im_Ethanthe fur felt too soft and clean on the various mammals. Didn’t help that prehistoric planet set an extremely high bar in terms of realism and fidelity
A lot of the animations looked more like the animals were in an improv acting class rather than a normal environment. The movements are slightly exaggerated and it feels so off
The Triceratops (complete with the same awful galloping animation), Allosaurus (probably the Sinraptor too), and perhaps some of the sauropods (the Diplodocus looked pretty much like the Apatosaurus, at least the head) were definitely remodels of the Jurassic World models. It makes sense considering ILM worked on both, and no doubt had the files on hand.
Aside from that, one of my other problems was the constant Jurassic styled roaring the prehistoric carnivores were doing (and reuse of Jurassic sound effects, particularly the T. rex). What a stark contrast from showing the extant carnivores. I think the extant, Paleozoic, and some of the Cenozoic were the strongest segments. There was quite a bit of inaccurate designs, such as the slightly modified Jurassic World designs, the T. rex with too many teeth, etc, or some inaccurate info given at times, like the terror bird being driven to extinction by Smilodon (which should have been the much smaller S. gracilis, and not one of the larger species), and more.
I did love that Arandaspis finally got to feature in a documentary though. One of my favorite prehistoric fish since I was a kid. Same as the early Triassic big headed Erythrosuchus which I've come to enjoy in recent years. Favorite scene is probably the one with the Doedicurus and Smilodon, and the Lystrosaurus stuff. I think the Megacerops, Dunkleosteus, Inostrancevia, and Scutosaurus had decent scenes, and designs.
The Alamosaurus also ends up galloping in the tsunami segment, lots of em, even though for a Titanosaur that's physically impossible but they did it anyway
What was Sinraptor a remodel of?
@@kade-qt1zu Sinraptor was remodelled from the Battle at Big Rock allosaurus, but aside from the croc skin along the back and some of the texture it's actually not too bad, in fact it's one of the better dinosaurs in the documentary 😀
Arandaspis made an appearance in a palaeo doc called Miracle Planet that I saw when I was a teen. It's fairly obscure outside of Japan iirc, so I would not be surprised if you hadn't heard of it before
@@mofumyon Thanks for sharing that with me. I had no idea it had featured in a documentary before.
I'm at the penultimate episode and, although it's not a bad series, I have to say that Walking with, 20 years later, remains superior in terms of narration and use of effects.
Bruh
No
walking with series is still better than prehistoric planet and any other prehistoric documentary series ever. dont think we can top it unless we copy its style with upgraded graphics
@@volante56 don't forget also better and updated info too. That would be the best documentery ever
I mean nothing is gonna beat walking with in terms of story and stuff but in no way does it look better than LOOP
I think Netflix missed a big opertunity with this show, even though some parts were good.
I think there was to much screentime of the todays scenes and, regardless to that opinion, I liked them better for most parts.
When I said I like them more, its only in comarison to the prehistoric parts. I have seen it before, countless times, only much better.
This series should have just stayed in prehistoric times until the time period of today came in the last episode. That would have let us get invested to the periods plants and animals and we actually got to learn more.
The prehistoric animals, even tough with new and exciting spieces, didnt show for anything new and exciting. They didnt explore the animals by giving them own traits and behaviors that was likely for them to have. They more or less just showed them as predators and herbivores nothing more.
I felt that the gorgonopsid, along with most other predators shown, got the Hollywood treatment - scary growling with sounds that always resemble a big cat, because it sound cool. The growling alsohappen in a hunting scene, which dosent make sense. So the focus on being cool is clearly more important than showing correct behavior.
Like many other, the t-rex is my favorite dinosaur. We know so much about this animal, despite being extinct for 66 million years. It had better vison than a eagle, better smell than a bloodhound and could move silent as a cat towards its prey. This animal were peak of evolution, the ultimate predator. This was a perfect opertunity for this series to show of evolutions potensial when it comes to a species, which is premise of it? There are so many theories about this animal and so much to explore, yet still they gave us nothing. It wasnt any different from the t-rex wee see in the Jurassic World series.
The best scene of the prehistoric animals was the young smilodon exploring life. It felt real because that behavior is real.
The constant scenes of comparison between the prehistoric and current animals was unecessary, when all that was needed was a sentence.
I didnt need 5 minuets looking at frogs trying to eat dragonflies.
Agree and the way it jumps through timelines drawing paralells is not well done at all it's just kind of confusing
One thing I noticed as a problem with consistency was the mother T.Rex had a brightly colored face like the male when late the show we see another female T.Rex that did not have a brightly colored face.
Mother T Rex had some fancy prehistoric makeup on
Personally it jumped too many times I only watched the first episode but in that one episode alone it jumped like every 5 minutes to a different period it never let you sit there and enjoy a story or scene without skipping to another only to cut the next one off for the first scene
I really thought were just gonna see smilodons duke it out with the terror bird before it made like 3 jumps instantly building the cutting off sever stories at the same time it was just too much a drew away from each story
The first episode is quite different than the rest. It feels and probably is meant as an introduction of the series.
Yup, would he continue watching he´d found the rest is not like that, and even so i did liked that first episode, pulp fiction style@@mrfischkopf4946
Most people seem to hate on this series, I really enjoyed it! I like all the prehistoric animals that were featured in this series my favorites had to be the Terror Birds doing the intimidation dance in the first episode, the Arthropleura scenes, Maiasaura scene, and the scutosaurus gorgonopspid hunt. I do wish they could of shown more animals in the past. For example in the Paleozoic Meganeura would of been a great showing, because they talked about dragonflies in that episode. I also really wished we saw some of the other famous dinosaurs like Ceolophysis, Stegosaurus, and a few other dinosaurs from the cretaceous. I also wished they could shown more marine reptiles (like Ichthyosaurs and other plesiosaurs) and more pterosaurs. and in the Cenozoic, I wish they would of shown Basilasaurus right after we saw Maiacetus, and It would been cool if they showed how mammals got big in the Oligocene like seeing Paraceratherium, entelodonts and hyeanadons. I also wouldn't mind if we saw more scenes with the smilodons because they were outstanding in this series. But with all that said I really did enjoy this series and liked the fact that they moved between modern day and the past. Overall I'd give this series and 8.5/10!
Yeah people also liked transformers 2 that doesn't mean it was good.
@@spinosaurusstriker What were you expecting from this series?
@@nickmendelsohn4942 -that it was mainly about the past as advertised
-no jp remodels, that's the laziest you can get.
-not dubious scientific nonsense like -smilodon making titans extinct or that evolution implies the reign of a species over the other
-not carnivore bias
@@spinosaurusstriker those are good points and I understand that. But they advertised that they would show stories of the past and present so you can’t be upset about that.
@@spinosaurusstriker and what does that have to do with a dinosaur documentary? All the guy said was he enjoyed it,
I like this review. It feels like balanced criticism and you've got a good grasp of some of the constraints the production was faced with. I'm happy you didn't go all-in on the 'jumping around in time' criticism and get that it provides context and that there were budgetary constraints.
I think that stepping back, in LOOP we have a documentary that was aimed for as wide an audience as possible, but one that still wanted to communicate factual information and context around life's most important evolutionary events. This, for me, is what documentaries should be trying to do. I therefore think it's still the best available. And whilst the palaeo community might celebrate Prehistoric Planet for the visual spectacle, the (dinosaur) model accuracy, and GCI, the amount of factual and contextual information communicated isn't in the same league as LOOP.
The big palaeo documentaries aren't communicating science in the same way, so comparisons between them are difficult and ultimately, it comes down to the reception of the target audience. I'd love to see an analysis of their efficacy, in terms of knowledge transfer, enjoyment and inspiration.
It felt weird having animals roaring and growling and hissing for no reason like some JP monsters. And the made up behaviors too; like when the Terrorbirds went to duke it out over territory and ended up doing the Flamingo dance because "ancient ritual" was cooler than combat? How would we even know something like that, and why assume something so silly? And the hunting and killing scenes felt like over hyped flops. The predators hardly make contact before their prey magically just falls over and dies. The only hunt I really liked in the early episodes was that early reptile hunting the Lystrosaurs. Oh and then there's the jumbled timeline, I think I saw the era of flowering plants happen three distinct times and I'm not even finished all the episodes. They go back and forth so much, showcasing the total extinction and annihilation of the dinosaurs just to have sauropods chilling a few minutes later because we went back in time again. It feels like there's little congruence and like 5 people who all wanted to make a different documentary all got their way at the same time this is what we got as a result. All in all enjoyed it for what it was, didn't really learn anything new. It's all incredibly basic, but eye catching.
the documentery made a lot of speculations without saying that it was speculative. So I feel like now its going to have a whole host of people believing that these speculative behaviors are true.
I really like that Gorgonopsid. They tend to suffer pretty badly from shrink-wrapping. But that one is good and chunky. And its well into the Uncanny Valley with mammals; which feels appropriate.
I hate how stupid it gets sometimes like still making herbivores weak like that Trike running from a Rex, diplodocus (with JW Apatosaurus design) being scared of Allosaurus (JW design) or that Titanis getting killed so easily by the Smilodons, not fighting back and oh god... That Deinonichus....
What do you mean by the Trike running from the T-rex? that isn't being "weak," it's called taking a chance to get away. Take wildebeest and buffalos for example. Lions can chase them down even though a buffalo can quite literally send a lion 6ft over. If the Trike were to be cornered, then it would square up, then the T-rex would either try its luck or walk away as it is not worth it no more.
@@handman360 that's not the problem, but the narrator saying a Trike has no chance against an adult Rex
@@brokenjohnassexum0929 Oh, ok.
@@brokenjohnassexum0929Yeah… that is complete bs. It is honestly annoying how often Triceratops isn’t given respect. These guys were large, strong, and more than capable of fighting off a Tyrannosaurus.
@@infernowolf8914 In theory yes but a lot of clues point to Triceratops being a common prey of Tyrannosaurus. It wouldn't be the case if they were that tough. It's very likely that their horns were used mostly for show and intra-specific competition more than to fend off predators. @handman360 pointed to buffalos running away from lions. Now buffalos weigh about four times more than a lion. A Triceratops would be only slightly heavier than a T. Rex (and probably less agile). It's very likely that Triceratops were not that dangerous to an adult Tyrannosaurus and would often run away.
I mean the documentary would be better if they're on chronological orders. I mean we'll start in the precambrian when life is just microscopic and as each episodes progresses we progresses through each time periods and eras like the paleozoic and stuff. They kinda need to add more prehistoric animals to the series because there are a little too much modern day animals and the ones im not that interested on. I mean the dinos are only T-rex, edmontosaurus(it looks more like corythosaurus), sinraptor(when i watch the trailer for the first time, i thought it was kelmayisaurus), anchiornis, triceratops, alamosaurus, allosaurus and diplodocus(i might miss some cuz they're the ones i remember). They could have added more dinos like Giganotosaurus, Tarbosaurus, albertosaurus, Eocharcaria, Majungasaurus, Argentinosaurus, Mapusaurus, Kentrosaurus etc. Instead of interrupting us with facts about modern day animals when we're literally watching the Dinosaur part of the documentary or other parts other than the Modern day Animals, they should mention Modern day Animals that lived with the dinosaurs or in the paleozoic era. Examples: , jellyfish, tuatara, bees, star fish etc.
If ypu notice the ed is just a copyright of maiasaura from first episode even part of the sxene is just same when the mother maia came vack to nest they reused this scene with the ed
seems like you only watched the first episode and felt that was the tone of the whole series
If I had to choose which one had good cgi, I would choose Prehistoric Planet. Plus the show names what prehistoric creature it is and goes into some detail about it. For narrator, David Attenborough and Morgan Freeman or both equally good.
I felt like they did the carboniferous period dirty, they are in it for like 5 minutes when they could have had a whole episode on it and how amazing it is. It was good but the modern day took me really out of it at times
The Cambrian called....
There is no such thing as "perfectly adabted" or "perfect predator".
Tyrannosaurus is described as the "ultimate predator".
Well, then it must have had a 100% success rate when hunting, right?
Simply by going after success rate would mean a seahorse is far closer to being a perfect predator than Tyrannosaurus is (seahorse success rate is 90%).
If its ultimate, then it must be able to survive in almost any time period and any environment...
Also they called a Maiasaura "defenseless".
I don't think that's what they mean when they say ultimate as, in the same documentary, T. rex failed two hunts. I think they just mean its the largest land predator. Describing it as ultimate is more of an opinion of the documentary.
"ultimate" means largest and most powerful in this context
My ears definitely perked up when I heard "defenseless Maiasaura". Perpetuating the tired trope that hadrosaurs were helpless prey animals that only served the ecological role of theropod fodder.
THANK YOU! I was so mad about the maiasaura thing! Like what? Just their size and strength make hadrosaurs powerful. They even show how they use power in numbers for herd defense. Meanwhile they say triceratops is nothing like the defenseless Maiasaura but then show it doing the exact same herd defense?! Why is it maiasaura defenseless when it does it but triceratops not??
House cats are the greatest of all time, they are the most adaptable and successful. Size doesn't mean anything. Beside most scientists agree T-rex was a slow scavenger.
2 things they did really well-
1) They individualised the dinosaur behaviours quite well. By that I mean they didn’t just make 1 walk cycle and copy paste it onto the entire herd like you see happens in most dinosaur documentaries.
2) the photography was gorgeous! Making the series an excellent screen saver/ hdr test reel for my tv.
and 3) Soundtrack
Pretty much all the big theropods looked inspired by the Game of Thrones dragons, with very dextrous lips, permanent scowls, and lots of little teeth. I also agree with your critiques. Pretty good all around though.
I enjoyed how they explained the general rules of life by examining today’s life. I studied biodiversity, and my fav part was how everything alive today is the result of 4 billion years of history. How the planet and climate interplay with life, how they affected one another through time, and what came of it. And how everything today exists by those same rules. I think they showed that quite beautifully. It’s simpler imagining past life exhibiting fascinating behavior by examining today’s animals just being weird and wonderful. It’s really humbling to me, for some reason.
Also great seeing some representation for pre-mesozoic animals! We don’t get nearly enough documentaries on these amazing critters
I think the modern day segments were incredible and showed things that i’ve never seen before and presented with beautiful and artistic cinematography. However, the prehistoric ones ranged from average to underwhelming… there was an oversaturation of hunting in the prehistoric segments, it got tiring very fast.
Prehistoric Planet wins the who wore it better contest. I do want PP to explore more time periods though
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it?
The Lystrosaurus sequence @ 7:18 is probably my favorite because they have such personality, they looked so cute and wholesome, I had my own thought bubble of what they were saying to each other when I watched that scene. Cuuuute!!!
As a long time paleo nerd that grew up on the walking with series I was honestly bitterly disappointed in this show. 20 years of science since walking with and this was the best they could do. Morgan freeman sounds largely uninterested in what he’s describing for the duration of the show. You can tell that some creatures were made by people who actually cared and others were made by people who didn’t and were focussed on getting it done. That allosaurus model was truly an abomination and whoever made it has clearly only watched Jurassic world for reference. The minute it came on screen all I could think was please please don’t let that be an Allo but of course it was. All the sauropods and trikes had elephant feet, theropods should not be roaring like lions, too many rookie mistakes for so many years of science. For me this show merely joins the ranks of the ‘you tried’ genre. I’ve sincerely seen better more realistic prehistoric models and behaviour in games like path of the titans or the isle.
Plus the baba rex who looks like mini adults a frickong adult trike who can't kill rex when it been prooved copy of the maiasaura design with the ed even the scene whzn the mother ed goes to it nest is the exact same as with the maia not mentionning the babies
I don't think it was an amazing documentary or anything but I had a fun time with time with it for sure. What bothered me the most was probably that the colour of the sky sometimes during the cgi segments looked weird(?), the cambrian feeling incredibly empty and that allosaurus design.. very big emphasis on that design. Overall I'd give like maybe a 6/10 or 7/10 because I still had a good time but eh.
New drinking game: take a shot every time the show says "dynasty".
I'm gonna copy and paste a comment I made somewhere else about my thoughts on the show:
"It was mediocre. Not only was there a lot of outdated information, I just found the show to be incredibly boring. The pacing was all over the place and too much time was spent during the present.
The idea of comparing modern ecosystems to their prehistoric counterparts isn’t a bad idea on paper. In fact, another docu-series did this significantly better than LOOP; The Future Is Wild.
It’s a show about the opposite; what life could be like millions of years in the future. You had your future ecosystems, with brief snippets of modern day environments and animals that were used to explain the show’s reasoning for coming up with their speculative depictions. For example, 100 million years in the show’s future, there’s a group of octopus-like creatures that congregate on swampland to raise their young. The show very briefly goes back to present day to show how octopus are more than capable of venturing on to land for brief periods of time, but the show doesn’t spend half the episode’s runtime there. It gets the point across in a concise manner, then goes back to the future (pun intended lol).
The show executed this idea very poorly in my opinion. The episode that was supposed to be about the heyday of the dinosaurs spend a good part of the runtime talking about termites and ants. While I’m all for shedding light on lesser-known Mesozoic animals, it spent WAY too much time on the wrong animals. I would have rather seen some early Jurassic dinosaur like Dilophosaurus, animals that appeared right after the Triassic-Jurassic extinction, than termites, just saying. What should have been two sentences at most ended up being like 10-15 minutes.
A lot of people have mentioned the show’s inaccuracies; Titanis vs Smilodon and their designs, the Allosaurus’s God-awful butchering of the Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock model, Triceratops “needing a herd to be safe from T.rex”, and PACK HUNTING DROMAEOSAURS AGAIN, just to name a few. However, my personal least favorite scene involves the Lystrosaurus’s supposed reason for extinction. The show claims that they were simply hunted to extinction by newly-evolved archosaurs because they were too naive to see them as a threat. They were treated as mindless meat wagons just waiting to die. Keep in mind that before that scene, Lystrosaurus was depicted as highly adaptable, and was one of the lucky few to survive the worst mass extinction ever. I find it extremely hard to believe they, in their likely billions, just let themselves be killed off. It was more likely environmental factors and competition from newly-evolved herbivores that lead to their decline, and it’s not like Dicynodonts just started struggling. They persisted throughout the rest of the Triassic just fine.
LOOP straight up copied Prehistoric Planet’s homework about T.rex courtship, too. It wasn’t the worst scene in the show, but I feel PP did it better.
TLDR; bad, boring show that spreads terrible misinformation and did Allosaurus and Lystrosaurus extremely dirty. 4.5/10"
This is probably only an issue for people who have seen loads of palaeodocumentaries, but I was just so tired of seeing the same tropes of the same animals. There’s so much more that T rex and triceratops, smilodon and terror bird, allosaurus and diplodocus. They’ve all been done before
I really liked the graphics and designs
Don't worry about if you're nitpicking or not. This is a documentary, not Jurassic Park, and a documentary presents facts. If something is wrong and easily shouldn't have been, it has failed in that aspect. The Allosaurus design was atrocious, the constant roaring was mind-numbingly enraging, the prey animals were belittled (namely Triceratops and the mammoth), presenting the never ending misleading 'saber tooth cats drove terror birds to extinction' theory, and especially the way evolution was presented as a battle for dominance and supremacy of the world was awful. And don't advertise your product as a prehistory documentary if 70% of it is modern day footage.
All that being said, while all in all a large portion of this documentary disappointed me, it certainly deserves compliments to what it did right. I thought the Cambrian period was portrayed beautifully, although more diversity could have been shown but y'know, budget, along with the Arthropleura section. The Lystrosaurus segment was fairly good too. And the highest honor I can give this documentary is its very persistent assertion that birds are dinosaurs, which even Prehistoric Planet failed at at times (such as the Pectinodon scene). I am so sick of hearing about the 'extinction of the dinosaurs,' because they literally did not go extinct. That's like calling the end of the Carboniferous the 'extinction of the insects' because all the large ones died out. Props to this documentary for having a whole section about the dinosaurs that survived the extinction.
@qbgrindddd
You're right, but I really think we should work on changing it, as it's not really accurate. Should be referred to as the extinction of the non-avian dinosaurs.
All dino docs don't present facts as they're fundamentally built on a lie
@@allison0411, stop disrespect life on our planet
Aside from the accuracy issues with both overall storyline and finer details, the presentation makes this thing really hard to follow while not showing what things actually were like in the past.
From all the docu series released in recent years, LOOP is surely one of them.
Truly one of prehistoric documentaries today
That allo was SO ugly lmao, it looked more crocodilian than an actual dinosaur theropod.
@qbgrinddddIf they avoided the osteoderms and gave it smaller scales it would have been such an incredible design but no...
Ceratosaurus is the theropod with osteoderms so I have no idea why they couldn’t just show that one instead
@@JurassicReptileBecause Ceratosaurus' sole role in dinosaur documentaries is to be bullied by Allosaurus.
The skin texturing ruined a great model. The Triceratops frill was also pretty poor.
Despite some huge problems, I honestly enjoyed it, but sadly more as entertainment
Hated the T-Rex hunt scene tho, a Trike could easily fight back and would absolutely DEMOLISH those babies lol
Yeah it was bullshit that it ran away like a little birch rather then defending itself. It just didn’t fight back at all man. I get that it was running to its herd, but that still doesn’t excuse it.
@@infernowolf8914triceratops would have most likely held its ground instead of ran apparently
I waited for this show so impatiently and was left so disappointed... Not only it's badly structured/confusing, but the quality of the portrayal of the extinct animals was so poor (and even hilariously bad at times) that I just lost interest and stopped watching it. I don't think I'll ever finish it, to be honest.
The worst animations were the hunting ones, with a 200 kg feline instant-killing a multi-ton fat/fur-armoured mammoth by jumping at its side. The herbivores literally just lie down and die on their own, I guess because they haven't taken their antidepressants that morning. The designs of the animals are strange and scientifically inaccurate more often than not; which is such a horrible shame. Was it so hard to at least check the photographs of the skulls and legs?
All in all, I was so very disappointed. My SO actually laughed at the animations or weird cuts a few times (T-rex mother teleporting or disappearing from behind the running triceratops then reappearing in the next cut), or kelenken (if it was even a kelenken - they never even said) screeching randomly at the lake for no reason before even meeting the other one or getting insta-killed by a smilodon.
I guess we shouldn't have hyped ourselves up this much if we wanted to enjoy it at all.
They wasn’t enough prehistoric creature content also
I'm pretty sure the terror bird was Titanis.
The mammoth/lion take down was a direct reference from a lion taking down an African elephant filmed today. Given cave lions were larger and woolly mammoths smaller, scientists we consulted on the series said it was 100% accurate that they could have taken down a juvenile mammoth in this way. The animal doesn't die straight away - as seen a few shots on.
@@sajlanfear Sorry, but no. You can watch a single 250-300 kg wildebeest stand against 2 or 3 lions hanging off of it and the struggle can last a long time. And even after that one single antelope is down it is still alive and kicking when the lions start to devour it.
If you think a thick skinned, wooled, 3000-4000+ kg elephantid just falls down and dies from a 200 kg lion jump (btw, that's the same ratio as you being taken down instantly by a 3kg animal, like a house cat, by a single bite) - I have some bricks to sell you.
Not to mention that the animation of the movements and the death is atrocious (I work as a digital artist in game development). Everything looks so fake and unnatural.
I agree with you on the hunting, especially compared to that incredibly dynamic cheetah + wildebeest hunting scene.
the snow leopard part made me cry
Look again. Those bodies are cgi
@@AdhesiveLubrication idk man ive seen a cat fall out a tree and it looked like a ragdoll hitting the branches almost the same as in the video
@thecat3059 Dude, the cat and goat go off screen over a bluff. Then all you hear is an inserted sound clip, a pause, and the other goats looking stunned. We can't see what's behind the bluff. They do a cold cut to a vertical downwards shot on the two bodies. There's no debris or disturbances in the surrounding snow. Not even marks from water droplets that would have eaten through the snow. And the animals dont quite look like they belong in the shot. I think it's a fake shot for drama.
I'm in love with Lystrosaurus and Titanis design. They are so great that I want cuddle them so hard
I feel like they were trying to show a Mosasaur but ended up reusing the pliosaur model because they probably went "they look the same anyway" which is sad.
I feel like I would have enjoyed it more if it was advertised more accurately ie the majority focus on modern day life. If you’re expecting a documentary focusing on the past you may be disappointed. If you go in thinking is a documentary about life and how our modern day animals came to be, with flash backs to elements of their origin, then I think you will be primed to enjoy this show more.
I think most people fail to see the real message of the documentary, and it really is sad that this is the case. The main message of it all is: we have to take care of the Earth, because otherwise we are bound to the same ruthless rules that made more than 90% of animals go extinct. My favorite part was the ecological message at the end, when the narrator, after explaining how CO2 caused a mass extinction, how poisoning and dying oceans caused another tells us we are doing exactly the same, willingly, without thinking about what it will cause. And then saying: "and after all mass extinctions the dominant life form went extinct, why do we think it will be different with us?". And for that sentence to have that much weight they had to go through all the struggles life went during the eons before us. The documentary is one about the life, all its history. Not about dinosaurs, not about the Cenozoic. That is why the first chapter very simply explains the rules of nature that in the end dictate which organisms survive and which do not. In the end surviving is the main goal of life, and calling each species or family of animals a "dynasty" was imho a clear way to show the wider public that no animal was safe from cataclysms. And that goes back to the main message. Conservation and responsibility for the life on our planet!
Another thing i didnt like was the idea that the reptiles hunting listrosaurus came out of nowhere. Where did it come from? How do we know the listrosaurus died off to it like the dodo did when we ran across them?
I appreciated the coverage of prehistoric areas outside the dynasty of Dinosaurs and very much enjoyed seeing how the earth itself changed during these periods but I don’t think I’m alone in thinking id have preferred much less of the modern day flash-forwards and had more time with the aforementioned prehistoric settings.
It lacked a fair amount of substance in those areas and there are already plenty of modern day life documentary’s that showcase these animals much better imo. As a result it felt fairly weak on both prehistoric and modern story arcs as they were all very short.
I'm pretty sure the LOOP wanted to relate itself to Jurassic Park, and that drove many design and monologue decisions.
Honestly, I was massively disappointed. The final episode especially. I usually adore Freeman but the man sounded like Connery on valium.
It is interesting to see species living in today's world that still are alive today or has evolved. There are a lot of species that are way older than our species, which is 200,000 years old.
As a Netflix documentary, I think it is a bit better than other Netflix documentaries earlier, which only seem to focus on CGI and not the fact bits.
As a butterfly person, I appreciated the segment in the first episode on the arm space between Heliconia butterflies and passion, flower vines
The soundtrack was also out of this world
But my greatest disappointment was also the fact that this show was clearly advertised as a fully immersive prehistoric reconstruction documentary, when it turned out to be more than half otherwise
The diversity of the prehistoric scenes was also low, presumably because they just wanted to show a prehistoric counterpart to different aspects of the modern world
Finally, as a student of ancient human cultures and dynasties, I agree with the other comments saying that there is a political narrative saying the species that are here today survived, because of their superior adaptive potentials
It’s literally like showing classical statues of a glorified mythical past to legitimize a current regime, not unlike the recent pharaohs parade in Egypt (which also had epic music, coincidence?)
The species that best supported this narrative got amazing aesthetic detail, and everything else just didn’t exist
I wasn't so keen on them portraying early mammals as just these little pitiful rodents, when we have fossil evidence of a mammal predating on a dinosaur larger than itself.
They made the gorgonopsid act like a cat… I understand that it’s a mammal ancestor, but the behavior it should have had should have been an evolutionary step between reptiles and mammals in my opinion. Cunning and intelligent to a degree, but still be a bit of an ambush predator.
Well lions are ambush predators and smart..and when you ambush you better be to know where to place yourself and when jump to your prey
You have to see this series in the context of prehistoric planet. And it makes perfect sense why it has this format.
The latest view of dinosaurs is that dinosaurs were just animals, not plotting or evil monsters. they all had their own niches and ecological role. Prehistoric planet tried to display that in a format similar to the succesfull planet earth-like format, even getting the classic david the goat himself. BUT it did something that some might not agree with. It got speculative and passed it of as scientific. The problem is, we know dinosaurs had these SORTS of behavior but we can't know how it was precisely. So which one is a more true portrayal. A portrayal where we leave out the the layer of behavior or one where we speculate on plausible possibilities. Since you can argue for both, logically, tv-makers will choose to go with the newer thing. And they did. But expectingly they got some small backlash.
Now netflix seen this unfold, and seen apple+ tv take the risk or reception by the public. It goes well - now netflix doesn't have to take risk of the format - and they try to rush out the series as fast as possible. People expect a series that displays dinosaurs like true animals. But they don't have the same budget nor production experience / time and research. So they choose a format that minimalizes risk of getting backlash on grounds of legitimacy and cuts back on expensive cgi. They show footage of the known pararel behavior itself. Instead of filling the whole scene with actual bbc-like footage like prehistoric planet.
Even lower budget documentaries do a similar thing with experts filling screen time. But this won't feel 'new' like prehistoric planet did, so they go with parallel behavior footage instead.
While there are a lot of good aspects to this documentary, I'm... utterly baffled by the decision of another Amblin property to dedicate a major portion of the main dinosaur subject matter to the lives of insects. Again. The second time since Dominion.
the difference is the insects parts are cooler than the dinosaur
Eh, I thought this was supposed to be a documentary focusing on different prehistoric life, not just dinosaurs? If anything, that would be my main gripe. The show focused a lot on animals that have already been featured heavily in previous prehistoric documentaries, so I was hoping they would delve more into into lesser known periods and species.
@@eldritchbeauty hey at least the arthopleura is the best representation of it in any dino doc
They said to a Pliosaur, „Plesiosaur“😢
But that is actually scientificly pretty confusing, because plesiosaurs and pliosaurs both belong to plesiosaurs... "plesio" = "almost".
As pointed out above, both groups form the plesiosaur family.
This only got made to cash in on the Prehistoric Planet hype.
I got the impression when watching it that this wasn't really made for prehistoric buffs and I knew after the trailers they would all be disappointed. I personally enjoyed it quite a lot, I think a lot of the modern day scenes were highlights as they showed a lot of behaviours not commonly shown in nature documentaries but it seems a lot of people are glossing over this and focusing on the prehistoric inaccuracies which I understand but I think treating this show as a pure prehistoric documentary is wrong but in fairness the marketing certainly didn't help its case there.
Definitely Kelenken. Triceratops was pulled from Jurassic Park, probably as a nod to Spielberg. My wife and I watched the whole series. But we were disappointed that the prehistoric animals were just window dressing and framing elements. If we had wanted to watch a documentary about modern life and our planet we would have. Do you think it was a money saving move?
My opinion on the show was that it was pretty "meh". Too many modern animal scenes, too much jumping back and forth in time, too many science goofs (Pliosaurs in the Late Cretaceous?), too much summarizing without context, the Triassic/Jurassic extinction was completely glossed over (despite the other four mass extinctions each being brought up in detail), and the final episode was openly Misanthropic. The target audience of this show was clearly the Normies, not Paleontology nerds.
My dad was confused by the show's off-hand reference to the Carnian Pluvial Episode, so I had to pull up a PBS Eons video to explain it to him; I shouldn't have to do this with a Dinosaur show.
If _Prehistoric Planet_ and _Walking With Dinosaurs_ are both S-tier, _When Dinosaurs Roamed America_ and _Planet Dinosaur_ are both A-tier, and _Dinosaur Revolution_ and _Amazing Dinoworld_ are both B-tier, then _Life On Our Planet_ would be C-tier at best.
Idk if its just been a million years since I watched an animated prehistoric animal doc, but I just felt like a lot of the animation and scenarios can feel so stilted at times. Obviously its a planned/scripted sequence, but I just think they didnt do a good enough job masking that. Even tho the models and rendering was all exceptional, I think the animation direction itself needed more feeling of spontaneity.
The production wasn't hyperfocused on the dinosaurs, so it is a bit lacking in that regard, i assume the budget for the series wasn't on par with an apple+ production. But i think it's important to remember that this isn't a dinosaur documentary. It comes off to me that some people expected something more revolving on the dinosaurs, rather than what the show actually was in the end. I found Mr.Freeman as narrator quite unexpected but i think he did good.
It was ultimately just okay IMHO.
Most of the Paleozoic and Cenozoic segments were great, but the show gets dragged down by presenting misinformation such as treating evolution as a battle between dynasties, the outdated BS of sabre-toothed cats being the cause of extinction for terror birds, and T. rexes hunting in multigenerational family packs.
I give it a 7/10, not terrible, but could have been so much better.
Now, hold on…. the fact that Sabre-Toothed Cats outcompeted Terror Birds to extinction and that Tyrannosaurus rex hunted in family packs are not misinformation at all. Those are two well-known theoretical facts. None of that’s anything to yawn or sneeze at.
@@anthonybusch4407 Sorry, but that's just not true at all, and both have already been out of date for at least a decade.
The idea that terror birds (or any native South American predator) were wiped out by placentals from the north (like saber-toothed cats) has already been debunked a decade ago. The timing of the decline and extinction of native South American predators such as terror birds utterly fails to match with the timing of the arrival of placental predators in Great American Biotic Interchange (GABI), as the native South American predators were already extinct BEFORE the GABI even occurred.
Titanis island-hopped north early and established itself in (what was then) woodland and swampy environments in the Southern US, then big phorusrhacids disappeared in South America (but the small ones persisted until around the last Ice Age), and only then did most of the interchange happen. Titanis itself only disappeared right when there was another major cooling event and grasslands spread, which several lineages of NA mammals preferred. Notably, the Smilodon species (S. gracilis) that lived with Titanis was rather small (more likely that Titanis would have hunted it rather than the other way round), and Smilodon only grew bigger AFTER Titanis went extinct.
As paleontologist Alex Rubenstahl said: "The whole "x were outcompeted by y" argument for just about any major clade in prehistory is pretty tenuous. Very few have held up as sampling improves - see Eurypterids and jawed fish. If such competition occurred, the fossil record may be too sparse to actually detect it."
As for Tyrannosaurus hunting in family packs, the idea just makes zero sense based on what we actually know about tyrannosaurid life history. It counters everything we know about tyrannosaurs' ontogeny and ecology, it has zero known analogue (not even in mammals) and ultimately there is zero reasons for it to be positively selected as a strategy. Large prey would be dangerous to juveniles, while the smaller agile prey juvies hunted would be insufficient to feed adults, let alone an entire family. This "complementary" dynamic just does not exist at all. Heck, the adults are already faster than any primary prey targets, which renders the rationale for this strategy completely pointless.
The general “strategy” of the hunt as proposed by Currie and featured in the early 2000’s (WDRA and Dinosaur Planet) is common in nature. The problem with using this to justify tyrannosaurids in family packs is that in nature the hunting parties entirely consist of adults.
The idea of tyrannosaurids hunting as in crocodilians and Komodo dragons? Sure. Members of the same age group cooperatively hunting together (like in Prehistoric Planet's tyrannosaurs)? Still quite likely and believable. Family gang strategy? A completely nonsensical and unviable hunting strategy.
So yes, both ideas are no longer taken seriously by most as they have been debunked (especially the notion that sabre-toothed cats wiped out terror birds, heck even Walking with Beasts gave the added nuance that Titanis was doing well in North America, unlike LOOP), presenting them as fact is actually misinformation at this point as neither has a place of being presented as fact in a 2023 documentary.
@@juanyusee8197, Unfortunately, that’s where you’re wrong.
@@anthonybusch4407 Look up Prevosti, Francisco J; Forasiepi, Analía; Zimicz, Natalia (2013). "The Evolution Of The Cenozoic Terrestrial Mammalian Predator Guild In South America: Competition Or Replacement?", the idea of sabre-toothed cats (or any North American placental carnivore) driving native Cenozoic apex predators of South America into extinction is no longer seriously considered for years. You cannot deny the objective reality that the timeline between the extinction of the native SA predators and the arrival of the NA carnivores just doesn't match up, and Titanis itself coexisted fine with sabre-toothed cats for at least 3 million years (a long existence for a single species) before finally succumbing to climate change.
As for multigenerational tyrannosaur family packs, it's one of those things that seems like neat idea for behaviour on paper, but quickly falls apart if you ask any ethologist.
@@anthonybusch4407Nope, this is where YOU'RE wrong.
To be fair to the "Triceratops can't take an adult rex" part, that specific Triceratops was like half the size of the adult rex
There were mistakes made in this. A pliosaur was mistakenly mentioned as a plesiosaur AND there were no pliosaurs during the late Cretaceous Period.
What you’ve said are actually partially correct. Pliosauroids are still a part of Plesiosauria, so it’s technically not incorrect but kinda misleading. Pliosaurs did live till the Late Cretaceous like Megacephalosaurus in Turonian, but just not the latest of Cretaceous like the Maastrichtian. Now you might ask isn’t Turonian “middle Cretaceous”, but the “middle Cretaceous” is not an official term as of yet, and Turonian is still part of Late Cretaceous.
Or Triassic when it was implied
If I hear 'dynasty' one more time I'm going to yeet my tv out of the window
As much as I understand the decision to switch between prehistory and modern times, I didn't really like it. I personally would prefer it to be "a slice of life" in prehistoric times like in Walking With series.
I'm afraid that the structure this show has would turn off both paleontology fans who would be annoyed by clips of modern (still amazing, but you know..) animals; and casual natur-doc fans who would likely get confused by all these otherworldy extinct creatures
I need to know why do documentaries think a Trex or any historical predator will roar at its prey, like it’s giving it a heads up , from five feet away before charging at it….. and roars again after it took its prey down like it conquered king kong.
in real life a tiger does not roar at its prey. It sneaks up and immediately pounces.
Personally, I found the series a solid 5/10. It had a lot of potential, but they recycled a lot of the CGI shots, and the music was cycling constantly, some variation could have done the series better. With that being said, the quality of the series was phenomenal. The CGI was beautiful, and music was beautiful - my issue with the series lies at heart with the reuse of a lot of the series.
I give it a 4.5/10. The treatment of evolution as a competition between dynasties sounds like something out of Jurassic Fight Club, and the designs ranged from decent to abysmal, but I did like how the show showed life on earth as a whole. Not just dinosaurs, but also arthropods, plants, and more. Did they get them all right? No, there are some glaring errors, but between this and Dinosaur with Steven Fry, I think Life on Our Planet is alright. The ending was awesome though. I love how it starts inside an abandoned mall reclaimed by nature, before expanding to a Last of Us-style post apocalyptic city.
The modified Jurassic World models were pretty distracting though. And the drawn out shot of Deinonychus, Triceratops, Arkansaurus, Alamosaurus, and Pterodactylus looks like JWD's prologue all over again.
when i saw the trex, and it had the jurassic park roar, i just turned it of...
Allo being my favourite dinosaur I was expecting a decent model. But no, it had the same model as the jw allo watered down
Allosaurus: A dinosaur that’s “almost” as famous as Tyrannosaurus rex and Velociraptor.
@@anthonybusch4407 eh not quite but still disappointing
"Allosaurus had never seen such bs before"
It had good and bad parts but Im not sure about the cgi is that unreal engine 5?
I will say this about the modern animal footage shown in this series: it is great. It would have been nice to see more prehistoric animals, but I do like what they show for modern animals. That being said, I do agree that the framing of evolution as a battle for supremacy does get grating at times.
I have to admit that i was fasting forward each to the modern day clips came on screen. I was not intereste in those, but only in the prehistoric parts. Also it just think that there was more focus on being interesting and scary that accurate throughout the show. I mean it is supposed to be a documentary, not a cool movie. So yeah, i like prehistoric planet more. Though i have to say the Allosaurus segment was very cool, and probably my favorite🙂
All the cgi went to the Permian-Triassic period
Do you like the t rex's color scheme in this one, and can you see others liking it?
Yes, especially the roar, so accurate
The thing about portraying clades as Dynasties who are vying for supremacy and are out competing other Dynasties will inevitably lead to a misrepresentation of biological turnover. A good example of this is the Paleogene and Eocene. In the period after the KT extinction event, various large mammals, birds, and reptiles evolved to fill the vacant niches that were available due to environmental succession. In the time periods following, large mammals continue to occupy most niches, while the large birds and reptiles are mostly absent. This may lead some to believe that the large mammals they lived alongside out-competed them, but as it turns out, this isn't the case. Instead, those Paleogene and Eocene mammals went extinct just the same as their bird and reptile contemporaries and different large mammals replaced them. If you look at this biological turnover at the end of the Paleogene and Eocene epochs under the concept of Dynasties, then it looks like the large birds and reptiles were the only casualties, since mammals are all under the "same dynasty"
watched 1 episode a few days ago then forgot about it until this popped up
I just want prehistoric planet to do a ceno version lol but not one placed in the ice age, (okay that would be cool too but I’m kind of tired of late ice age depicting the decline and extinction of ice age megafauna) but one placed in the early-mid ceno where there’s all sorts of crazy crocodillians and crazy early mammals of each developing group
Dino:The mammoth was taken down by one cave lion
Other Lions: Are you sure about that?!?
It was brought down by one. The others entered after it had been tackled.
@@DinoGuy8 Another one helped.
Helped-ish
I thought the show was okay, but that Allosaurus design just wasnt good... I honestly kind of like the Jurassic World design, but only as a Jurassic World design. It fits with that universe because it follows the rules of that universe. If you're making a documentary on the real thing though and your Allosaurus has osteoderms, then thats just ridiculous.
I mean it is Steven Spielberg so the dinosaur designs are majority from the Jurassic Franchise 😅
You know Steven Spielberg?
Life on Our Planet explicitly stating that birds are dinosaurs which Prehistoric Planet don’t do.
That cuz prehistoric planet was based on non aviation dinosaurs, not avain dinosaurs AKA birds, they didn't need to mention it
Well, there was a lot of birds in prehistoric planet two if you didn’t recall.
The modern day segments were a highlight??????? Absolutely not! There's a million modern day nature documentaries I could watch if I want, and jumping back and forth through time was confusing and derailed the experience. I still have an episode left, and I've gotten to the point where I just fast forward through the live action segments.
Okay honestly, I fucking hated how in the first episode they described Maiasaura as, “defenseless.” Like dude, Maiasaura is not a small animal, it weighs 3 tons for god’s sake. Just because it doesn’t have any armor or horns doesn’t mean it can’t beat your ass if it wanted to. It was also dumb how the Triceratops, instead of standing it’s grown against the Tyrannosaurus family, ran away like a little bitch. I know how in the episode it was running to its herd, but if you were getting attacking by a predator equal to your size and you are a slow ass armored herbivore, I don’t think your first instinct would be to run away.
Yeah! Hadrosaurs deserve respect! An edmontosaurus could knock a rex of its feet! And don't even get ne started on shantungosaurus! That thing was the largest non sauropod dino that we know of!!!
Triceratops would win 65% of the time imo
I did love the end of episode 5 when they ''tease'' humans as the the most dangerous species that ever lived. We were teased as a super villain. It was kinda epic but also really sad
Life began in Africa but the people where not future 😂 only white skins people in Africa 😂 and at the end western countries that was futured. It don't match up 😂 they only mentioned life started there and people migrated but nothing else 😂😂. Tarzan is also white jumping around Africa and looking really perfect doing it 😂 and the African/black people where were? I am just saying 🤔
I was super excited for this but tbh I’m not sure if it’s because of poor writing, I could really get past a few mins of the second episode.
Unusual for because I love prehistoric content. Just felt somewhat disjointed and lack lustre
It’s as impressive as Prehistoric Planet 1 & 2, only with different time periods & different eras. But I wish both Prehistoric Planet 1 & 2 & Life on our Planet were released on DVD in America. Especially the 2nd Volume of Deadly Dinosaurs with Steve Backshall as well.
I think watching this after Prehistoric Planet was kinda difficult. The opening with the T-Rex had me slightly worried, since after it fails a hunt it just stands around roaring at the Triceratops herd despite its best interest being to conserve energy after it didn’t get food. The visual effects were great though, even if some of the dinosaurs look like their designs were ripped from Jurassic World (Allosaurus in particular)
I disliked the design of "Edmontosaurus". I kno they did it from the Maiasaura model, but they could just made a model for Edmontosaurus regalis, taking the crest for the ones at the extinction event, saying it's E. annectens and call it a day.
it was good to see what happened during the past how life was like at first but i most enjoyed seeing all of it
8:54 ish They literally have footage (Discovery channel orf Nat. Geo, or both) of African lions bring down elephant calves, I've seen them. It took a while! They really needed MORE animation reference and research!
It's not as good as Prehistoric Planet, but I still liked it for what it was.
I have a question for the CGI guys out there. Episode 7 theres a cheetah chase scene. Everything looks real until the wildebeest calf escapes and the cheetah has to book it away. The colors and movements look off from the norm. Wonderingbif anybody else spotted this and if y'all think its CGI or not.
i cant go back to scary trex after seeing chonki trex in prehistoric planet, she was too cute
the humans episode was disappointing, I thought they were gonna show us in that wonderous poetic light they gave to all the other animals but instead we got a big ol' finger wagging.
For why the dinosaurs looks similar to Jurassic World, it’s actually the same animators. They used models from the Jurassic World movies and tweaked them a little.
Well regardless on what your opinions were on the Allosaurus, I was just happy to see my favourite Dinosaur appear in the series.
I literally loved it. It was so cool.❤
You'd think if they could afford morgan freeman...they'd have better CGI.
Then again, maybe prehistoric planet spoiled us on visuals....