What Most People Get Wrong About Black Holes

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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    You might have heard that black holes suck, like literally. It's certainly a funny joke, but it isn't true. Black holes aren’t even that weird if you're far enough away. I correct this and other misconceptions with this video.
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  • @ScienceAsylum
    @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +39

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    • @akatsukisama1035
      @akatsukisama1035 11 месяцев назад +3

      Actually really interesting bc I believed some myths. Such as the density or the light trapping…
      Well thanks for letting me know my misconception and learning yet again!
      A nice idea and good video keep it up :D

    • @jefflittle8913
      @jefflittle8913 11 месяцев назад

      You missed what seems like the biggest one - the assumption that Lorenz time dilation is irrelevant when talking about the Schwartzchild Radius. Regardless of the amount of mass and other predictions of the singularity, the discussion seems incomplete without talking about "when".

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    • @cozzzzanostrafamily244
      @cozzzzanostrafamily244 11 месяцев назад

      Please, send at least one article that describes the state of matter under such pressure and with such density. this is impossible. if you accept the black hole, then you accept the Singularity.

  • @fpostgate
    @fpostgate 11 месяцев назад +174

    I am so glad you exposed the difference between mathematical model and the definition of black holes. So many people just throw those singularity and infinite words around pretty clumsily.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +39

      I see it in my comments often. I felt like it was time to include it in a video.

    • @robo3644
      @robo3644 11 месяцев назад +10

      Ive always thought that the singularity shouldn't exist, matter should constantly fall inward inside a black hole but first due to relativity it might not even reach the center before the black hole's death but also the closer it got to it the larger the gravity and the more space dilation (opposite of length contraction) should make it so the closer you get to the singularity (not singularity but actually the center) the more you need to travel to get there, it probably balances at some specific distance where the accelleration and length dilation increase at equal speed might be idk like plankth length or some symmetrical shit that the universe likes to do, but im no ohysicist could be wrong and have no idea how to actually calculate sonething like this

    • @chriswaudby1084
      @chriswaudby1084 11 месяцев назад

      But there is an infinitely dense singularity at the heart of black holes though

    • @alphagt62
      @alphagt62 11 месяцев назад +12

      I’ve said many times, nothing in nature is infinite, and am always shocked at just how many want to argue that. There really is a lot of bad, or poor, science reporting, where such misnomers are perpetuated. I’m so glad there are a few channels like Science Asylum that I can go to for interesting and accurate teachings!

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@chriswaudby1084Only mathematically, it's an error in our math. Not a physical thing.

  • @thingsiplay
    @thingsiplay 11 месяцев назад +247

    No clone was harmed during the filming of this episode.

    • @rodox_sk8
      @rodox_sk8 11 месяцев назад +26

      Just scared a lil bit

    • @ugoeze7360
      @ugoeze7360 11 месяцев назад +45

      Allegedly.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +36

      @@ugoeze7360 😆

    • @Ninth_Penumbra
      @Ninth_Penumbra 11 месяцев назад +13

      Depending on how energetic the Black Hole's accretion disc was, wouldn't he have been just a tad lethally irradiated with gamma radiation/x-rays/ultraviolet radiation..?
      (Even despite his reduced exposure due to time dilation.)

    • @babaali7050
      @babaali7050 11 месяцев назад +7

      We should discuss clone rights some day.😂

  • @ArvinAsh
    @ArvinAsh 11 месяцев назад +9

    Great video Nick. Congratulations! Debunking the singularity was the best part.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks Arvin! My (personal) general relativity research has put me on a black hole kick lately. The next video is about black hole optics.

  • @geneticjen9312
    @geneticjen9312 11 месяцев назад +31

    Another myth I see a lot: bigger black hole is scarier to be near.
    The smaller, the more extreme the tidal forces

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +15

      Oh yeah, that's a good one 👍

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ScienceAsylum
      We all just need a little _spaghettification_ in our lives, doncha' think?

    • @samuelthecamel
      @samuelthecamel 11 месяцев назад

      A 1 cm wide black hole could destroy the Earth

  • @thezood
    @thezood 11 месяцев назад +34

    Getting a physical model for black holes that actually explain them in our lifetime would be so awesome. It's up there with finding life beyond earth. Hopefully we don't have to expend any clones in the process.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed! It would be ground breaking.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've always been partial to String Theory, but that's probably just cuz I grew up when it was still the new hot thing. Loop Quantum Gravity has had a lot of interesting results. The whole D-Branes interacting is what caused the Big Bang, tho, that's just marvelous.

    • @Aerxis
      @Aerxis 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ScienceAsylumit would be ground-spaghettifying... eh? anyone?

    • @Pain53924
      @Pain53924 11 месяцев назад

      @@ScienceAsylum Hi intelligent person
      Question: Normally a star is stable because the its own gravity is balanced by force produced inside the star due to nuclear fusion. How are black holes stable then i.e. why isn't all the mass of a black hole in the singularity?

  • @Lucky10279
    @Lucky10279 11 месяцев назад +75

    4:41 For some reason, I find the idea of defining a black hole as "someone dividing by zero" absolutely hilarious!

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 11 месяцев назад +2

      When a human divides by zero, he gets an error.
      When GOD divides by zero.. Black hole.

    • @jfh667
      @jfh667 11 месяцев назад +1

      Not more ridiculous then a punctual object.
      Like smaller then plank length in every dimension?
      Im not saying it's impossible.

    • @jfh667
      @jfh667 11 месяцев назад

      Ths best analogy for a singularity is time at the north pole.
      Technically if you spin on yourself, you can move back in time!!!!
      In the same way a black hole is a division by zero.

    • @Vexas345
      @Vexas345 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@paulmichaelfreedman83340/0 doesn't exist.

    • @ricksanchez1079
      @ricksanchez1079 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@Vexas345 Then how'd you type that if it doesn't exist?
      checkmate, fraction nerd.

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo 11 месяцев назад +121

    thank you for making this intellectually stimulating lecture also densely laden with original humor.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +16

      You're welcome. Glad you liked it 🤓

    • @pwinsider007
      @pwinsider007 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ScienceAsylum in photoelectric effect,don't we see real electrons?

    • @themachine5647
      @themachine5647 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@ScienceAsylum Also, really loving your looser, more off-the-cuff humor with outtakes that you're including. You seem to be relaxing more and having more fun. I hope you and your wife continue to have amazing success teaching science. The world needs more people like the two of you.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +6

      @@pwinsider007 No. When we see electricity, what we're _really_ seeing is light emitted when some of those electrons pass through the air.

    • @micks9580
      @micks9580 11 месяцев назад

      Yes, very humorous.

  • @wally_g5192
    @wally_g5192 11 месяцев назад +33

    "so curved that all futures point inward" Very nicely put, thank you!

    • @BlazinLow305
      @BlazinLow305 11 месяцев назад +5

      It hurts my brain to think about. Once you are past the event horizon, facing the same direction, forward, you could spin around 180 degrees and go in the direction...and you'd still move toward the center. At least I'm pretty sure that's correct.

    • @TallinuTV
      @TallinuTV 11 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, that is in fact an excellent description of what happens! Gravity in G.R. is basically what a "straight line" path through spacetime looks like. If you're standing on a planet, you aren't "feeling gravity" -- you're feeling the surface of the planet _pushing you off-course!_ (An object remains in motion unless acted on...)
      The stronger the gravity, the more sharply your path through spacetime bends. But as you approach the outside of the event horizon, it starts to get weird. Even "circular" orbits will gradually descend lower and eventually just turn to point inward due to relativistic effects, if I'm remembering correctly. Passing the event horizon is the threshold at which even moving directly away from the BH's center, even at the speed of light (which only light can do), _still takes you closer to it._

  • @oldieman730
    @oldieman730 11 месяцев назад +14

    Thanks for always making the topics easy to understand for those of us who didn't get to college or University. Loving the humour. I wish Science classes were this entertaining, I might have learned something while being engaged with the topic.

  • @mrwillard95
    @mrwillard95 11 месяцев назад +21

    Great video and I know this is a small thing but I really appreciate putting a countdown timer of the sponsored segment makes it a lot easier to skip it and I wish more youtubers did this.👍

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +10

      I saw another RUclipsr do it a few years ago and felt great about it. Decided in that moment, I would also do it from now on.

    • @ThatCrazyKid0007
      @ThatCrazyKid0007 11 месяцев назад +4

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    • @matthewe3813
      @matthewe3813 11 месяцев назад

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    • @petehiggins33
      @petehiggins33 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@matthewe3813 Every time you 'block a sponsor', an angel dies.

    • @matthewe3813
      @matthewe3813 11 месяцев назад

      @@petehiggins33 how so? how can hiding part of a youtube video have supernatural affects beyond our understanding?

  • @gonegahgah
    @gonegahgah 11 месяцев назад +8

    At 4:33... I actually like that you don't define a black hole as a singularity. Really nice to hear.

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi 11 месяцев назад +30

    This is the kind of education videos that helps push forwards science discussion on the internet ! Thank you !

  • @ionutungureanu2309
    @ionutungureanu2309 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this episode Nick!
    A big Salut from Romania!🫡

  • @harthur2010
    @harthur2010 11 месяцев назад +12

    Great video! Loved the “Pool of speculation” thing. Going to use that sometime. Wonder about the Hawking radiation part though, I thought it hasn’t been observed yet. Also wondering if the “black hole baby talk” is ……. foreshadowing 😊

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +4

      You are correct that Hawking radiation hasn't been observed yet, but _hypothetically_ it would be there.

    • @jgkitarel
      @jgkitarel 11 месяцев назад

      @@ScienceAsylum Less not observed and not conclusively (i.e. that is what it probably is) observed enough times to be properly identified as such, in my opinion. A lot of this has to do with how Hawking radiation is more at the quantum mechanics level, and quantum mechanics are difficult to parse with general science at the best of times. This comes from the fact that what works at the macro scale doesn't work quite the same way (but still along the same lines) at the micro scale that quantum mechanics works at.
      The mathematical models consistently check out and we have made enough observations to validate the consistency of existing theories, that the current model still stands, though new discoveries constantly force us to modify the specific details.

  • @FalconFetus8
    @FalconFetus8 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats on the sponsorship! And thanks for putting a timer on it!

  • @Sepracia
    @Sepracia 11 месяцев назад +1

    Subscribing for 2 reasons ;
    - I like your content
    - Every youtuber should put a countdown for their ad segment and I love you for this.

  • @andygustafson1
    @andygustafson1 11 месяцев назад +8

    It would be interesting to get a perspective (relative to moon scale) of how close and at what speed clone would need to be to not be able to escape the pull of the example black hole to get a feel of how safely close we could get. Great video!

    • @thedeemon
      @thedeemon 11 месяцев назад +3

      If the clone is absolutely hard and strong, mathematically he can get as close to the horizon as he wants, and hover there. Then use his engines to slowly go up. And if we're interested in a fly-by on a free flight trajectory, without using engines, then he just needs to stay outside the photon sphere at 1.5R.

  • @MissFoxKat
    @MissFoxKat 11 месяцев назад +3

    My seven-year-old daughter loves to listen to your videos at bedtime! You're awesome. We really appreciate all the hard work you put in to these.

    • @MissFoxKat
      @MissFoxKat 11 месяцев назад +1

      (Also she wants to know if you read the comments!)

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      I do read the comments! I'm so glad your seven-year-old daughter is into science. That's wonderful 🤓

  • @filipgren6091
    @filipgren6091 11 месяцев назад +1

    Damn. You’re in your good form, Sir. This kind of humor is what’s unique to Your channel. Thanks.

  • @molininicolas
    @molininicolas 11 месяцев назад +2

    I love your videos!!! Keep it going ♥️

  • @LuneLovehearn
    @LuneLovehearn 11 месяцев назад +20

    Hey Nick. I love your Kurzgesagt shirt. You may like to collaborate with them in the future, that would be a neat crossover. One of the things I've always wondered is having a stable stellar system orbiting a black hole. Melodysheep made a documental about how having several black holes could be the ultimate power source and replace stars in the black hole era, so you could still live on a earth like planet. He even stated how could you achieve that and even have actual light from a black hole. I think you could expand that theory in a video.

  • @kwezicanca3698
    @kwezicanca3698 11 месяцев назад

    Hey, its Christmas, I'm so excited for this new episode❤❤

  • @Hydroverse
    @Hydroverse 11 месяцев назад +1

    Informative, yet easy to understand. Thanks again for another good video.

  • @SSMLivingPictures
    @SSMLivingPictures 11 месяцев назад +4

    Light may not be able to escape a black hole - but I did ( Im pretty buff). You may be surprised to learn that my black hole had a McDonalds and a Dunkin Donuts, but it DID NOT have a Burger King. Thats part of the reason I came back to Earth.

    • @Veldrusara
      @Veldrusara 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah man... I couldn't survive an eternity without a Big King.

    • @Andrew-zq3ip
      @Andrew-zq3ip 11 месяцев назад

      Was there a Starbucks?

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      😆

  • @oliverboroski2711
    @oliverboroski2711 11 месяцев назад +3

    Love your vids

  • @entropyachieved750
    @entropyachieved750 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the vid. Helped re enforce the concepts

  • @akiratoriyama1320
    @akiratoriyama1320 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video!!!

  • @geneticjen9312
    @geneticjen9312 11 месяцев назад +3

    There's another good myth corrected during an early visualisation in this video: the event horizon isn't at the outside of the dark circle we see in images. The shadow represents more than just the event horizon. You're kinda seeing the back of the black hole at the same time and then after all that there's the gap until the ISCO

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +3

      I'm hoping to get into this in my next video.
      EDIT: ruclips.net/video/R2YsF47BMvY/видео.html

  • @PrometheusZandski
    @PrometheusZandski 11 месяцев назад +3

    I really enjoy episodes when your wife is in the background. I enjoy the ones where she is in the foreground even more.
    Funny stuff. Keep it up.

    • @honestabe411
      @honestabe411 11 месяцев назад

      Keep it in your pants

  • @Fartalot3000
    @Fartalot3000 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, and you made me laugh after a rough day, thanx:)

  • @F4collector
    @F4collector 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love this video. Especially, that clone (lol). Great information. Thanks for posting this video - appreciate a lot. -Tom

  • @ninadgadre3934
    @ninadgadre3934 11 месяцев назад +14

    Nick, you and your better half are one of the cutest couple on RUclips, just allround wholesome and knowledgeable folks. Stay blessed and happy!

  • @m4n_plasma273
    @m4n_plasma273 11 месяцев назад +3

    Huh, now I'm feeling smart! Thank you dude!.

  • @devils9844
    @devils9844 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video 👍

  • @YaBoyGunna27
    @YaBoyGunna27 11 месяцев назад +1

    thanks for the video

  • @SurajKumar-ln8ij
    @SurajKumar-ln8ij 11 месяцев назад +4

    Really another Black Holes video by one of the best Science explainer on RUclips .
    Nick ur are really awesome human ur my fav youtuber now.💫⭐❤️⚡

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад +4

    When you make comparisons with the size of the moon, is it the diameter, the cross-section or the volume you're comparing? Because it looks like the diameter in the graphics and that's two dimensions off of the actual size when we're talking about 3D objects.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +2

      I made sure to _say_ "diameter" at 1:38 in the video because that's how I calculated the percentages. The idea of them being smaller than the Moon is true for volume also, but the percentages would be different. (Note: We're taking measurements from the outside. _Inside_ is an entirely different conversation.)

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ScienceAsylum my bad, you did say diameter there!

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Dynamic Duo - Nick and Em.

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 11 месяцев назад +2

    You defo deserve a million subscribers wont be long hopefully😊

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 11 месяцев назад +9

    03:20
    I often read "a black hole is infinitely small" and I always answer: "The black hole itself is not the collapsed body (or whatever remained of it) itself but the inner part of its gravitational field separated from the outer part by the event horizon.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад

      You answer to something that's written? So you talk to a book?
      And if it talks back: does that explanation usually work? Because I find it kind of confusing, even though I already know what you're saying. Also, I wouldn't say a black hole has to be defined by how it was formed. You can in principle create a black hole any number of ways that don't involve stars.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +8

      @@unvergebeneid Do you not have an inner monologue? I think it's an inner monologue thing. Responding to a book in my head seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do, but I can see how that might not make sense to someone without an inner voice.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ScienceAsylum eh, I'm thinking about things I read but I wouldn't consider that entering into a dialogue with the book, which responding to a book implies to me.
      In any case, if I were to talk to these books, I'd just say they're wrong because you can't have a singularity inside of a black hole if the singularity _is_ the black hole. I think most books would find this much easier to understand 😄

    • @FHBStudio
      @FHBStudio 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@ScienceAsylum There are people without an inner voice? Because I have a few to spare!

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@FHBStudio There actually are, and a whole bunch of cool research about how they think differently. Just google "inner monologue research"

  • @basharatmalik2004
    @basharatmalik2004 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hello sir
    Hope you are doing well
    Please make a video on origin of sliding friction at molecular level.
    Thank you

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    @psychologist_soumyadeep 11 месяцев назад +1

    The most honest and for me the most convincing sponsorship eve seen in an youtube video. Still not available in India otherwise I'd have got it right away

  • @alphalunamare
    @alphalunamare 11 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely Delightful :-)

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox7358 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for clarifying these things for when we actually encounter a real black hole 👍

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +2

      You're welcome. Can never be too careful 😉

  • @LivinBilly
    @LivinBilly 11 месяцев назад +8

    Weird Idea about "Spaghettification": I used your fluid roche limit from your planetary rings video to try to find the roche limit of a human falling into a black hole. I substituted human tendon tensile strength (measured in MPa) for Sat Mass, gravitation at the surface of the sun (measured in MPa) multiplied by 8 solar masses for the Planet Mass, and 2 meters for the radius of a human nose diving into a black hole. It's really messy but might be fun to play around with...
    High probability that my math is off but theoretically you would experience particalization at 48.89 meters from the mass of the black hole!

  • @potblack7951
    @potblack7951 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very…well…explained..
    Thank you!

  • @RaoulTeeuwen
    @RaoulTeeuwen 11 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the bits funny part :-)

  • @juzbecoz
    @juzbecoz 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:26 when I saw his shirt,
    "collaboration with Kurzsegagt!!!!!!!"

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      😂 I wish.

    • @juzbecoz
      @juzbecoz 11 месяцев назад

      @@ScienceAsylum coming soon

  • @DrZalmat
    @DrZalmat 11 месяцев назад +13

    the best part about black holes: the bigger a black hole is the safer it is to get close to it. You can cross the event horizon of a supermassive black hole and the tidal forces are still weak enough for You to not get spaghettified for example simply by the fact that the event horizon is so far away from the singularity

    • @k7jeb
      @k7jeb 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah, but you're still DOOMED.

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 11 месяцев назад +2

    First video I haven't skipped through the ad! 😅
    R.I.P. Expendable Clone 🙏
    (Just getting it out of the way ✌️)

  • @joshuabrigden4820
    @joshuabrigden4820 11 месяцев назад +1

    2:41 Just had a scary thought! In theory whether or not we will live long enough, it doesn't matter. We always have been and always will be on a collision course with a black hole until it happens at least.

    • @AnEvolvingApe
      @AnEvolvingApe 11 месяцев назад +1

      yes, at some point in time your atoms will be drawn into a blackhole. less scary and more wonderful

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад +7

    4:00 wait, so does this mean that if you fill an empty space the size of a supermassive black hole with just some air at normal atmospheric density, it collapses into a supermassive black hole before you're even done?

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. Compared to space, air is really really dense.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@alexpotts6520sure, I'm just surprised it's so dense that you're floating there, spreading your canned air or whatever and suddenly you realise that you're inside an event horizon with nothing out of the ordinary ever having happened to give you an indication that you've been overdoing the air.

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 11 месяцев назад

      @@unvergebeneid Yeah, the event horizon isn't a physical object, you wouldn't particularly notice anything special at the moment you crossed one.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 11 месяцев назад

      @@alexpotts6520 well, that's still up for debate. But in this case you're not so much crossing an event horizon, you're creating one by happily pumping breathable atmosphere into some part of space and suddenly time and space switch places and all that jazz.

    • @jimipet
      @jimipet 11 месяцев назад

      It turns out that the whole observable universe has a density similar to what a black hole at this size would have, so in a sense, we are already inside a black hole.

  • @zxuiji
    @zxuiji 11 месяцев назад +11

    For once, a segue ad actually worked on me, I don't like the smell of deodorant either so I never use it, native seems right up my ally so if I see it in retail I probably buy it.

    • @marcushendriksen8415
      @marcushendriksen8415 11 месяцев назад

      Segue* . Segway is a branded product lmfao

    • @zxuiji
      @zxuiji 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@marcushendriksen8415 I had simply guessed at it since I've never spelt it before as far as I remember 😅

    • @marcushendriksen8415
      @marcushendriksen8415 11 месяцев назад

      @@zxuiji most people haven't, I think 🤔 just goes to show the power of marketing eh?

    • @zxuiji
      @zxuiji 11 месяцев назад

      @@marcushendriksen8415 Not in this case, never heard of the segway brand, I live in the uk so that might have something to do with it

    • @marcushendriksen8415
      @marcushendriksen8415 11 месяцев назад

      @@zxuiji country's got nothing to do with it lol, I live in NZ 😂 perhaps you've just not ever come across the term, that can happen

  • @stapler942
    @stapler942 11 месяцев назад +1

    That abrupt sponsored segment transition was hilarious. 🤣 Reminds me of that scene in Return of the Killer Tomatoes with George Clooney where they start doing ads in the middle of conversation. And a similar gag in Wayne's World.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      The Wayne's World ads were epic.

  • @rubiks-monkey
    @rubiks-monkey 11 месяцев назад +1

    Kurzgesagt! Nice! Also great video as usual!

  • @KatjaTgirl
    @KatjaTgirl 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks for clearing that up Nick. Does anything special happen to the fabric of spacetime inside a black hole besides the usual bending due to mass?

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +8

      Assuming there is an inside at all, which we're not sure about, weird things would definitely happen. Example: Space and time would switch behaviors. Time would become something we could move back and forth in. Space would inevitably drift us toward whatever is causing the black hole (like the future). That weirdness is a reason I support the idea that there's no inside.

    • @AliothAncalagon
      @AliothAncalagon 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ScienceAsylum I hear for the first time that black holes not even having an inside is an option.
      But there is a certain elegance in that perspective as it would perfectly loop back to answering why the event horizon itself is enough to describe the black hole.
      I like it. I will try to keep in mind though that elegance is not always the path to the truth 😂

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm going to ignore the admonition to not talk about the inside, and just regurge what Kip Thorne said: A blackhole is a vacuum solution, it is made from spacetime. All matter goes to the singularity and is destroyed. Moreover, the singularity is not part of the universe...it is a topological defect in spacetime, and all the blackholiness around it is the vacuum (no mass locally) solution to Einstein's Field equations that gets you to flat spacetime far away. But then kip also said the interior is highly dynamic according to numerical relativity...but that may be just during mergers...idk.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 11 месяцев назад +2

      Check out PBS Spacetime for more complete treatments of what's (mathematically) inside a black hole.

    • @KatjaTgirl
      @KatjaTgirl 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ScienceAsylum Thanks for responding Nick, this is fascinating stuff! Talking about the fundamental springs in QFT, would they be there inside a black hole or is there an actual vacuum inside without even these?

  • @rohitraghunathan
    @rohitraghunathan 11 месяцев назад +3

    Congrats on the sponsor, Nick!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks. Sponsors have been sparse this year. It's nice to be getting them again.

  • @modolief
    @modolief 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!!

  • @JoshuaDavidson
    @JoshuaDavidson 11 месяцев назад +2

    Spaghettification is inversely proportional to the mass of the black hole. If you * threw Expendable Clone into a super massive black hole, he wouldn't get spaghettified before he crossed the event horizon, whereas approaching the event horizon of a smaller stellar black hole would most likely shred him **.
    * Hypothetically
    ** don't hurt the clones

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      Correct. Tidal forces are larger for smaller black holes.

  • @chekote
    @chekote 11 месяцев назад +4

    Native is an excellent deoderant. I’ve used ones from other brands before and they sucked. But Natve actually works. I started to use them because I wanted to cut back on plastic waste.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, I was kind of excited to get the sponsorship.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 11 месяцев назад

      @@ScienceAsylum why? what it gotto do with soience?

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад

      @@PazLeBon Everything has science in it.

  • @hurmzz
    @hurmzz 11 месяцев назад

    Great video!
    I didn’t have most of the misconceptions but still I learned so much more!
    Like, supermassive black holes are less dense then air? How does that work!? Do a video on that!
    And I thought they weren’t black because they would appear to show light from other sources, which I guess still is true for the most part but I didn’t realize the redshift.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 11 месяцев назад +1

      I guess the low density is because their event horizons are so big, their super high masses are spread out over an absurd distance, reducing their mass per volume.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад

      What @@Appletank8 said.

  • @eritronc
    @eritronc 11 месяцев назад

    just a few weeks ago i was wonder how big really are black holes, you nailed it!!! thank you Nick!!! saludos desde Chile!!

  • @xdragon2k
    @xdragon2k 11 месяцев назад +1

    When faced with a super massive blackhole, it is best to have significant tangential velocity relative to that blackhole while being far away from it.

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 11 месяцев назад +2

    You seem to know your stuff i enjoyed watching you so im subscribing 😊

  • @lukus_gomlegi
    @lukus_gomlegi 11 месяцев назад +1

    The sponser ad part was the one that really blew me off! Really wish some things are available world wide 😂

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад

      Is the Native brand not available in your country?

    • @EyMannMachHin
      @EyMannMachHin 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ScienceAsylum well the FAQ on their site answers the question "Do you ship internationally?" with "Yes! To Canada." And that's it. Nowhere else.

    • @lukus_gomlegi
      @lukus_gomlegi 11 месяцев назад

      @@ScienceAsylum i don't think so

  • @stefaniasmanio5857
    @stefaniasmanio5857 11 месяцев назад +1

    Oh that was true gold... Super!! ❤❤❤

  • @bentoth9555
    @bentoth9555 11 месяцев назад +2

    Poor Expendable Clone. You could've told him ahead of time instead of torturing him by making him think he was actually expendable.

  • @charlescowan6121
    @charlescowan6121 11 месяцев назад +1

    A black hole is just a very exotic neutron star with mass so compacted that is yields some insane gravity. That gravity so strong that light can't escape it. If you look at any neutron stars they do some pretty wierd shit, atomic pasta? Another great video from Nick and Mrs Nick!

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 11 месяцев назад +2

      If an event horizon forms neutron star matter _cannot_ be stable in General Relativity.

    • @charlescowan6121
      @charlescowan6121 11 месяцев назад

      @@narfwhals7843 See where I typed "exotic"?

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@charlescowan6121 and by that you mean "not general Relativity"?

  • @xcoder1122
    @xcoder1122 11 месяцев назад +1

    The problem with the singularity is that we don't know how far matter can be compressed. Mathematically the mass at the center of a black hole is concentrated down to a single point that is infinitely dense. But in reality, that would only be the case if there isn't an upper limit on how much you can compress mass. If there is such a limit, mass cannot be compressed beyond that point and then the density will not be infinite. The problem is that we cannot look into a black hole and the maximum compression of mass we can still see is a neutron star. If you compress mass a bit more than a neutron star, you get a black hole but then you cannot observe anything going on inside of it.

  • @freezinfire
    @freezinfire 11 месяцев назад +1

    Even after so many years, I still love the black balls in space joke

  • @mark.fedorov
    @mark.fedorov 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for not killing the Expendable clone

  • @aidanclarke6106
    @aidanclarke6106 11 месяцев назад +2

    So you dont't turn into spaghetti, you turn into bolognese sauce. Very reassuring 😂

  • @elivaughan1192
    @elivaughan1192 11 месяцев назад +1

    best sponsored segment i have ever seen. lol

  • @allannirvana
    @allannirvana 11 месяцев назад

    Nick, talk about rogue black holes or even rogue planets, and how much risk they are to us

  • @babaali7050
    @babaali7050 11 месяцев назад +1

    love from Pakistan. I really enjoy your videos and I really appreciate they way you make simple description of otherwise "pedantic" topics. Wish you good health, prosperity and more crazy ideas.

  • @nimbusnation9584
    @nimbusnation9584 11 месяцев назад +1

    For a minute there I thought Clone was gonna take one for the team. 😂

  • @mariocerame
    @mariocerame 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for taking the time with the animation to have the star accelerate close to the black hole and decelerate as it went far away. The detail was not lost on me.
    But I have a question. What do we call the equivalent of aphelion and perihelion for a black hole? apholeion and periholion? Those sound like dirty words to my ears...
    This episode was great! Thanks. I even watched the whole advertisement even though I will almost certainly never buy as I need an antiperspirant.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +1

      *"Thanks for taking the time with the animation to have the star accelerate close to the black hole and decelerate as it went far away. The detail was not lost on me."*
      Thanks for noticing. I try to include physical laws in my animations whenever I can. (My friend Jabril would say they're _simulations,_ not animations, but I think that nuance is lost on most people.)
      *"What do we call the equivalent of aphelion and perihelion for a black hole?"*
      We would probably default to the generic terms: apapsis and periapsis.

    • @mariocerame
      @mariocerame 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ScienceAsylum That makes sense. Thanks.

  • @aurelienyonrac
    @aurelienyonrac 11 месяцев назад +2

    What would you see if you where already at the center of a black hole?
    Would it look like everything is moving away from you since space is being stretched?
    Would things far away be red shifted?
    Would you experience zero gravity since all mass is around you?
    Thank you
    Just clearing missions 😅

  • @bharath__100
    @bharath__100 11 месяцев назад

    I would really like you to do a video on cosmic strings. I really have a hard time going my head around it

  • @MacDaniboi
    @MacDaniboi 11 месяцев назад +1

    While it's easy for me to grasp that black holes don't have an infinite mass, it's absolutley mindblowing to suggest the density would be low.

  • @johnstevenson9956
    @johnstevenson9956 11 месяцев назад +1

    Some are less dense than air...and my brain nearly exploded.

  • @jergarmar
    @jergarmar 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry, Expendable Clone, I confess that I was looking forward to your spaghettification.

  • @SolidSiren
    @SolidSiren 10 месяцев назад +1

    I knew black holes are not very dense at all, as their mass is directly proportional to their radius BUT their volume is proportional to their radius cubed. The more mass it gains; the LESS dense it gets.
    And the smaller the black hole, the *stronger* its tidal forces, so small ones are "more dangerous" than SMBHs.

  • @syiridium703
    @syiridium703 11 месяцев назад +1

    The region near a black hole should be called "sucking region", not because objects would get sucked in (since they wouldn't, necessarily) but because it sucks to be there (difficult to get out of, tidal forces, ...).
    I mean, let's be honest, it wouldn't be the first bad naming in science but this time, it would be at least funny.

  • @chiepah2
    @chiepah2 11 месяцев назад +1

    "You could have told me that before you sent me out." That wouldn't have been entertaining.

  • @chrissscottt
    @chrissscottt 11 месяцев назад +1

    You need to make a 'disposable clone' who wants to be spaghettified.

  • @resonantsky
    @resonantsky 11 месяцев назад +1

    4:16 "but infinity isn't something we observe in the real universe"

  • @bharath__100
    @bharath__100 11 месяцев назад

    Could you just make a video on waves, their properties wavelengths, wave numbers, and etc. I really have a hard time in having the essence of the concepts, the terms used like plane waves, standing waves etc.. Its a humble request

  • @luminiferous1960
    @luminiferous1960 11 месяцев назад

    In response to your statement at 8:38 there is a particle that we see directly, and it is the only particle we see directly. In fact, it is the only thing we see directly. That particle is the photon (with a wavelength in the visible region of the spectrum). We see everything else that we see indirectly by the thing's emission, transmission, reflection or scattering of visible photons.
    Note that we can and do also see images of objects emitting, transmitting, reflecting or scattering invisible photons or other particles, by devices that detect those invisible photons or other particles and then display the image via emission, transmission, reflection, or scattering of visible photons, but in this case, we do not see the object nor the invisible particles interacting with it directly.

  • @vog51
    @vog51 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love these videos for us dumb ones. I give thumbs up before I even watch the video.

  • @Ikigai747
    @Ikigai747 11 месяцев назад

    Do we have any science asylum merch. I would love to buy itt❤

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад

      shop.spreadshirt.com/scienceasylum/ 👍

  • @pidgeonlanding
    @pidgeonlanding 11 месяцев назад +2

    Your wife should be the HR/Oversight, since your clones essentially "work" for you. This would give your "expendable" clone an outlet for their displeasure in being left out of the loop.

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 11 месяцев назад +2

    There ought to be a sponsor clone for the off-brand segments 😜

  • @glarynth
    @glarynth 11 месяцев назад +2

    Someone better call Comment Clone that his name is just for comedic effect, and he doesn't actually have to argue online about singularities.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  11 месяцев назад +3

      If only that worked. Turns out he enjoys it.

  • @alanw737
    @alanw737 11 месяцев назад +1

    I can’t wait for the movie “Black Balls in Space”.

  • @dimitrispapadimitriou5622
    @dimitrispapadimitriou5622 11 месяцев назад +1

    4:00 Even in the classical theory ( GR) singularities are "spacelike" ( this is the technical term). They're not "pointlike" objects at the "center" of the black hole. They're not even places at all. The singularity is at the "coordinate center", of the black hole, not the actual geometric center.
    This actual center is not even accessible , generically ( for anything that falls in sufficiently later, after the initial collapse of the star !).
    That is actually obvious not only from the math, but even from the Penrose diagram of a typical Schwarzschild black hole.
    A space-like singularity is a moment in time, not a "point in space"... that is the most persistent misconception about black holes!
    The Weyl curvature diverges as r goes to zero. And "r" is a time-like coordinate in the interior ( in the so called "trapped region").
    What happens with these singularities in Quantum gravity ( or whatever) is totally irrelevant. A serious misconception is a serious misconception!
    Besides that, this misconception is not only about the singularity, but, most importantly, about the geometric and causal structure of the interior of the black hole.

  • @danielmann6772
    @danielmann6772 11 месяцев назад +1

    Black holes:
    "THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE...
    IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE!"
    😂😂😂😂

  • @kakarot_saiyan
    @kakarot_saiyan 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great 💪🏼
    I knew I was right ❤

  • @Raziel1984
    @Raziel1984 11 месяцев назад +1

    just remember: "if the world wouldn't suck, we all would fall off"