After this work, over 100 years passed before any significant piece of music was written in this key. No wonder Kraus was not confident about it and revised the symphony.
Votre nom me fait croire que vous êtes Francais, donc je vous réplique en votre langue. Pour l'ut dièze mineur, n'oubliez pas le Concerto Nr. 2 (?) pour piano de Ferdinand Ries, élève de Beethoven. Je n'en ai que la partition (je l'ai joué dans ma première jeunesse, accompagné par Sir John Barbirolli), mais il doit bien en exister un enregistrement. Je vous le recommande chaudement.
@@jeanghika7653 i'm sorry, i am not French, but the piano concerto you rever to might be this one: ruclips.net/video/YuV10crEvdw/видео.html I enjoyed it a lot! Thanks for the reccomendation!
The opening seems to take a lot of inspiration from the French Baroque. It honestly sounds like something written by Lully or Delalande until the fugue motif ceases
He is not underestimated but unknown. This, because almost all his work is stored in the Royal Swedish Archives. They turned up on the occasion of the crowning of H. M. the present King of Sweden. Get in touch with the "Joseph Martin Kraus Gesellschaft" in Buchen/Odenwald. Very nice people indeed and helpful. I think to know that they recorded on CDs.
Konstantin Krystallis Listen a little more carefully; the revised work is not ‘...almost identical’, it is a total re-write: c# minor to c minor, Minuet removed, Continuo removed, Re-orchestrated, Thematic material more developed. Et cetera.
This is one of the most sublime symphonies in the history of the symphony.
The reworked is interesting, and personally I feel they ought to be paired together oddly enough. But with someone in between to clear the air.
People would love this if it was concertised, people need new, and this is cutting edge even today.
are you creasy?
sehe ich auch so!
@@helmutgehrmann464 Und gleichmals ich auch.
Superb, pure passion and elegance, worthy of the brilliant Gustavian court!
Magnificent worthy of great composers yet forgotten .!
Le quatrième mvt est un pur délice...
Powerful.
After this work, over 100 years passed before any significant piece of music was written in this key. No wonder Kraus was not confident about it and revised the symphony.
Votre nom me fait croire que vous êtes Francais, donc je vous réplique en votre langue. Pour l'ut dièze mineur, n'oubliez pas le Concerto Nr. 2 (?) pour piano de Ferdinand Ries, élève de Beethoven. Je n'en ai que la partition (je l'ai joué dans ma première jeunesse, accompagné par Sir John Barbirolli), mais il doit bien en exister un enregistrement. Je vous le recommande chaudement.
@@jeanghika7653 i'm sorry, i am not French, but the piano concerto you rever to might be this one: ruclips.net/video/YuV10crEvdw/видео.html
I enjoyed it a lot! Thanks for the reccomendation!
The opening seems to take a lot of inspiration from the French Baroque. It honestly sounds like something written by Lully or Delalande until the fugue motif ceases
An underestimated composer
He is not underestimated but unknown. This, because almost all his work is stored in the Royal Swedish Archives. They turned up on the occasion of the crowning of H. M. the present King of Sweden. Get in touch with the "Joseph Martin Kraus Gesellschaft" in Buchen/Odenwald. Very nice people indeed and helpful. I think to know that they recorded on CDs.
Wait a minute! They are recorded on NAXOS CDs.
Kraus could write a great minuet. I wish he wouldn't have removed it in the C Minor rewrite.
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It's almost identical to the c minor one... Still a sublime piece.
Not necessarily. And this was the original idea. The original symphony that was then revised.
Konstantin Krystallis
Listen a little more carefully; the revised work is not ‘...almost identical’, it is a total re-write:
c# minor to c minor,
Minuet removed,
Continuo removed,
Re-orchestrated,
Thematic material more developed.
Et cetera.
it`so s poor. Are you like this?
you don't understand the musik of the end from the 18the century
Oh dear...