Imagine the timeline where the game released in 2006 and was a mostly forgotten decent little game, then five plus years later the movie finally drops. We were weirdly close to this reality, instead of the one where we didn't even know the game existed for fifteen years
@@Tirgo69 people would have wondered why the hell they made a movie off such a niche game. It would be like a Ty the Tasmanian Tiger movie being made in 2015
This is the first time I've heard someone officially come out and say that the movie stealing was a hoax! I've always thought it was convenient that everything was stolen without proof like that...
I can't remember the name of it, but there's a Foodfight documentary on RUclips with crew interviews, and they all say the story was complete bullshit and didn't even make sense. However, even before that, myself and many others were already skeptical. The most unbelievable part of the story is that the Secret Service were involved which is just complete and utter nonsense
My siblings and I were completely skeptical of the supposed "theft", especially because at one point the rumor became that the "original" was destroyed in a fire.
the fact that foodfight was intended to be a large scale cinematic property is so surreal to me, even if this had come out at the time the unabashed confidence in a bunch of food mascots is insane.
I think it would've done well had they been able to keep the M&M characters, Chester Cheetah, and the Coca Cola polar bears who were apparently also supposed to be in it.
To me, that just fits with the whole story. This guy was clearly a snakeoil salesman and manipulated clueless investors into thinking that this could work. That anyone thought this was a good idea perfectly fits with the story of the creator scrapping the original reel and coming up with excuses to delay things.
@@ScooterinABEven if the movie came out, it'd be seen as a cynical cash-grab. You have original characters like Daredevil Dan, Dex Dogtective, and Sunshine Raisins yes, but the emphasis being put on corporate mascots makes the film feel so hollow and cynical. People don't associate food mascots with heart and storytelling; they exist only to push a product and it feels wrong that the film was targeted towards kids.
They weren't singing a generic song in the movie, they were singing the French national anthem (because the Casa Blanca reference needed to be more obvious, I guess)
The reason why there are so many Casablanca references is because...Food Fight IS Casablanca. Brand X are the Nazis and the song they sing in the released version is a butchered version of the French Naational Anthem which was what was being sung in defiance from Casablanca. And the Naked Lady X reminds me of the model shoots they did for the main character in the first Final Fantasy movie. They actually made her a 'cover girl' for a magazine with specifically rendered 'shots' that presented her as a real person. Anyone 'member that?
I remember the video rental store I used to go to had a calendar with a pin-up poster of Dr. Aki Ross in a bikini. It was an official promotional release for the movie. A friend of mine actually got the store owner to give him the calendar some time after the movie was way past its VHR release date. The story was that there were some official renders of her in the same pose but without the bikini. And while I have seen such picture on the internet and it certainly looks consistent I really can't tell if it's official or a fan edit.
Also See BloodRain,Onchabara,Tabularasa and Splatter House 2010 did this too but they went futher than a Bikini. I dont get how this helped Splatter House sell since yeah its a game about a Guy in Hockey Mask fighting demons no one was playing that for the ladys,
The plan was to make more movies similar to it: *Mascots - A animated film about sports mascot characters. *Sunday Comics Capers - A animated film about comic strip characters. *Arcade - A animated film about video game characters, which would've predated Wreck It Ralph.
I just like how they covered their own hides saying that they lost the footage (either in a fire or theft), forcing them to rework the film from scratch, and we all believed them (to be fair, Toy Story 2 had similar problems in development), and it went unchallenged for nearly 2 DECADES.
I never believed it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It just never made any sense as to why anyone would want to steal this. The only POSSIBLE explanation would be a disgruntled employee that wanted to get back at his employer, but I can't see anyone risking jail time rather than just quitting and getting a new job.
The fact that Kassanoff "didn't like the way storyboards looked and thought investors wouldn't understand them" tells me everything about why this movie end up being like this.
cut him some slack, he's american /hj He said "Spain" while pointing at France on a map on another video of his Edit: its in his inital coverage of the "Everyone Knows That" song + corrected the country he got wrong
@@hawktalon7890 ikr. i can understand not recognizing a national anthem, but its literally easy to look up where in the map places are supposed to be. he put that image up without double checking which honestly puts to question how well researched some of these videos are
@@PsycheTrance65 Exactly, I'm definitely a bit skeptical to say the least. I guess some topics are kind of a "do your own research" thing if you can find information somewhere else.
I appreciate the coverage on me and my colleagues' research! If it ever happens again though, don't be shy and feel free to send an email! I would've loved to help out or at least say hi. I did want to correct a few things: Cat Daddy does have the game, just not a build. The source code isn't compilable in its current state because the tools needed to do so have been scattered around over time. It's possible, they just didn't want to take the time to compile a new build for me. They also weren't comfortable providing the code on its own due to its usage of Cat Daddy's proprietary engines. I think I covered this in my blog post about it, but maybe I forgot. Also, Mars Chocolate did not back out specifically because of the peanut envy joke. They backed out because Threshold had forgotten the green M&M is a woman. A little surprised you never mentioned the documentary I made on this movie, I assume you saw it? The "Dare the Day" chapter book does still exist with its author, along with an adult novelization of the film. Unfortunately the author was not comfortable sending me either of these. Cest la vie. I did send you an email a few months ago about The Works, but I'm not sure if you ever saw it. Regardless, would love to chat if you're open to it.
I also saw "Rotten: Behind the Foodfight" when it premiered just this year (2024), and I was wonderfully enlightened! I wonder what other movies could this mess of an animated movie's behind-the-scenes be the most similar to? Perhaps either the legendary "Thief and the Cobbler", or maybe another movie, like "Heaven's Gate" (the infamous 1980 film that put "The Deer Hunter" director Michael Cimino's career dead in the water, ended the "New Hollywood" age, and got its distributor, United Artists, sold to MGM the year after its release)?
The man was legitimately horny on main throughout the entire movie's production. The early version of FoodFight allegedly didn't really have the racy humor the released version has; Larry Kasanoff insisted the writers throw in more innuendoes to make the film more mature, while completely forgetting it's meant to be a family-friendly film.
I was at a thrift shop with my friend a few months ago and found a 16 inch Charlie the Tuna with the 2008 Foodfight tag, it was when I found out they had merch, the quality is for sure from a claw machine. The amount they wanted to do with Foodfight is insane, I guess it makes sense because of the amount of advertising for other brands. I like to think of an alternative universe where there was this giant ad movie with merch just selling more ads all over in every media.
This video unlocked a memory of me seeing that pilot squirrel in a claw machine, and thinking why I did not recognize a character, that looked too specific of a design to be a one off.
I had a Cheasle the Weasel plush when I was a child! My dad got it for me from a local pizza joint's claw machine. I've never seen FoodFight before in my life but I will always recognize that weasel
I always thought of Foodfight as this obscure internet curiosity. I didn't even realize that there was so much of it all around me, and so recently too... Kinda scary isn't it
The funniest thing about Food Fight is that I saw clips from the original version of the film... ...it still sucked. It legit was still an ugly, amateurish piece of crap. The fact that the director/producer (I don't care who it was) said this movie's failure was a result of "espionage" is so irrelevant. Even the intended version of this movie was junk.
My favorite lost media genre is when an IP is either failed or unfinished, then finding all the merch created because the creatives were SO CONFIDENT that they had the next Big Thing on their hands. Learning about the development and work thrown into an failure is such a trip.
Wouldn't surprise me, honestly. The nude Lady X thing and how he pushed for really inappropriate humor in a kids' film tells me he was really immature and couldn't keep his urges under control. FoodFight is the textbook definition of "the writer's poorly disguised fetish(es)".
Kind of a random question but I'm curious to what your opinion is on it: What do you think is the greatest lost media find in the past few years AS A WHOLE? The first thing that comes to my mind is the wicked witch episode of Sesame Street.
I agree with your pick. The Wicked Witch Sesame Street episode is probably the one that the most people would care about. Most Americans and citizens of many other countries grew up with Sesame Street, but most people don't even know Food Fight ever existed.
While I have a lot of smaller favorites, I think the discovery of never-before-seen footage from Cleopatra 1917 was amazing. It’s only two minutes of what used to be two hours, but it felt like looking right into the past, and the fact that they could find least media that was over 100 years old is wild.
“The biggest unsolved Hollywood mystery…: ::The Black Dahlia has entered the chat:: 😂 I tease…another great video. And dear lord, just when you think this is well-tread territory…
Honestly, Foodfight was always destined to fail. Let's take the hypothetical, best case scenario as an example. In this hypothetical version of events, the movie would look just like the trailer and get/retain all of the product licenses they wanted. First of all, it was going to rely heavily on mascots from real world products. However, the vast majority of the mascots planned for the movie were from brands which only exist in America. The rest of the world would have zero familiarity or interest in them and a lot of the dialogue or jokes relating to them would go right over everyone's heads. Given that the main selling point was "Oh, I know that character!", it was never going to succeed outside of the USA. So, what about America? Surely it would do well there? Nope. It would have just been an extremely long ad break. I know it's a common joke to call Americans stupid and see them as mindless consumers but that's just a stereotype. We have to at least give them some credit. There's no way that any audience, American or not, would see this as anything more than what it was: a lazy attempt to make them pay to watch a bunch of ads, held together with a very flimsy, poorly written plot. I mean, come on! The villainous brand which tries to take over is literally called "Brand X". That name has been synonymous with generic/cheaper products for decades, long before Foodfight was even planned. The message of the movie was essentially "Don't buy stuff from smaller companies or try to get a bargain, elsewhere. Those brands are evil. Just buy our overpriced crap, instead". Who on Earth would be naive enough to fall for that? I'd say pretty much nobody.
The more info that comes out about the behind the scenes of this movie, the more I question how someone as incompetent as Larry Kasanoff could have -directed- produced something as amazing as the original Mortal Kombat movie.
He wasn't the director of MK; he was a producer. The director was Paul W. S. Anderson. But thanks for the info, as I had no idea the Foodfight guy was involved with the Mortal Kombat movie. Looking at his IMDb, he directed "Mortal Kombat: The Live Tour" and wrote the story for Mortal Combat: Annihilation, and produced the crappy CGI and crappy 2D Mortal Kombat cartoons. He was an executive producer on True Lies and co-founded Lightstorm Entertainment with James Cameron. (The role of an executive producer frequently has no creative input into the movies.)
I just keep thinking this movie was meant to be some massive level scam of some kind, but anything would be up to speculation. You know, sort of like how Rapcity Kids wound up being. The self sabotage feels like he was trying to back out entirely, but had some contractual obligation to finish the thing. Something about that workprint makes me feel like they didn't really get the approval for all the mascots initially used, and they were hoping to get the go ahead once the film was financed. I dunno. It's like this film was destined to be awful, even if the animation was major studio quality. Also, not saying the brand names in the novel reminds me of family cook books that use very specific candies in cake/cookie recipes, but have to call them by odd generic descriptions ( M&M's being "candy coated chocolate pieces" for example).
2:40 This "room inside a room inside a room" must have been a desk drawer inside of an office room, and he considered the building to be a room itself 😂😂😂
@@caucasoidape8838 You'd be surprised, half the stuff I approve, I'm amazed got all the way through the executives. Some shots get by with just TPose if it's just talking head parts. They are getting better looking since Unity, Unreal, and Blender Eevee exist now for free for productions.
YES! FINALLY! SOMEBODY FINALLY SAYS IT! The movie conceptually feels so cynical because it's nothing but a vehicle to push products. It's one thing to consult advertisers to help pay for your movie's production and in turn a character is drinking, eating or using their product, but companies were contacted to push their mascots. It feels really soulless. It's like when companies interact on Twitter. It's not real; it's all just business.
I actually remember accessing a website based off of this movie and that's how I learned about this movie's existence. The only thing I remembered from that website was the film's title/logo and a cityscape-like design on the main page, but I can't really recall if there was any features or interactivity.
I've got to say I don't understand people wishing we got the "better" version of this. this was not a diamond in the rough, it was a terrible premise executed terribly enough to become interesting. if we got the competently produced version it'd be an intelligence insulting piece of sterile corporate propaganda telling the audience not to buy generic store brands if they want to be a good person.
If the story about the theft of an original "good version" of the movie were actually true, I would suspect the Sausage Party guys of committing the crime. If I had a nickel...two movies about food coming to life in a grocery store with sex jokes..., etc.
@@billybarnett9518It was meant to be a parody of Pixar type movies like Toy Story. Yeah, pretty similar concept but I don't think they are really connected
Yo wtf, this thumbnail no way this was going to be in the movie, bruh the nostalgia critic joke of this movie being a fetish film now this joke makes more sense now unironically
The most fascinating oddity in the history of branded entertainment keeps on giving. It's amazing how much was invested,( and subsequently lost) on this awful IP!
Ya know, ever since I saw reviews for food fight I genuinely wonder if someone behind sausage party was the thief. The plots are very similar and removing the more vulgar parts of sausage party I can see where the two would fit together and fill in some holes in food fight
Jontron was only the tip of the iceberg, also having known of the freak that was Larry K. - I can’t look at the poop weasel without winching or having a pit form in my stomach. He should not be allowed near children’s entertainment (even though he’s still getting work as a executive producer but his filmography basically stopped in 2012) (Also found out he was involved with LEGO Clutch Powers and my childhood just gets more disturbing)
I believe that this movie was definitely a way for them to launder money. No way this movie should have been this expensive and literally almost no one had ever even heard about it.
1) I'm sad the better version isn't out there 2) I'm happy we have most of the footage from the sizzle reel 3) The movie may be bad, but I must compliment the guy for sticking with it & actually getting something done. Even if he did lie, & even if he did have someone make a weird pic of one of the characters.
I can't help myself what it would be like if Larry Kassenoff and Jeff Spankenburg became an unholy duo of investor frauds. Only mix the infamous Lady X pic and Jeff and his company forgetting about checking IDs when making The Guy Game and you have one big disaster created. And I also pray for the Foodfight game to be one day dumped.
Crazy to think that in another universe, Foodfight might be a washed out franchise that pumped out sequel after sequel in mid 2000s and a staple childhood for most people.
5:50 I don't think this would have ever gotten made, because they'd need to get the brands onboard. Can you imagine going to Pringles and ask if they're cool with their chips being used as a gun? Or about depicting Blow Pops as incendiary devices? I love the concept art (especially the war-hardened Keebler Elves), but it would have never survived the licensing process.
He definitely wasted time, money, and other resources that should've been used on the actual movie. I wonder if the character was based on a real person, like a girl he had a crush on in high school or something. It's just really weird to waste money on that when there's plenty of other places to get that sort of thing.
New? Foodfight? Content? Found? I fully believed the movie was stolen, think we all did. I think they fully expected this to be the next Toy Story, even bigger. Well, It Is Infact known, infamously atleast
The absolute shock I felt hearing that there was no theft was insane. I don’t keep up with Foodfight lost media so I genuinely thought the theft was real.
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honestly I actually kinda like this film.
there's FAR worse animated movies out there like just about everything made by Dingo Pictures.
I agree that there are some movies that are way worse, but to say it's good is a bit hyperbolic
@@Treeeee2008 I said I liked it I didn't say it was good.
From how the gameplay looks, Foodfight! would’ve worked WAY better as a game than a full-length feature film.
Agreed. Holy shit the gameplay ideas with the brands would've been perfect!
Yeah, agree with that.
Imagine the timeline where the game released in 2006 and was a mostly forgotten decent little game, then five plus years later the movie finally drops. We were weirdly close to this reality, instead of the one where we didn't even know the game existed for fifteen years
The game looks mid and barely a step up from shovelware. So yeah, WAAAAAY better than the movie.
@@Tirgo69 people would have wondered why the hell they made a movie off such a niche game. It would be like a Ty the Tasmanian Tiger movie being made in 2015
damn he rule 34'd his own movie before it was even finished
That's not very surprising
Most creators do this lol
Since this movie seems inspired by Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I think they were trying to make Lady X the next Jessica, but as a villain.
Brand X? How about BRAND GOON? XD
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Brand XXX
This is the first time I've heard someone officially come out and say that the movie stealing was a hoax! I've always thought it was convenient that everything was stolen without proof like that...
I can't remember the name of it, but there's a Foodfight documentary on RUclips with crew interviews, and they all say the story was complete bullshit and didn't even make sense.
However, even before that, myself and many others were already skeptical. The most unbelievable part of the story is that the Secret Service were involved which is just complete and utter nonsense
My siblings and I were completely skeptical of the supposed "theft", especially because at one point the rumor became that the "original" was destroyed in a fire.
@@j_c_93 it’s called Rotten: Behind the Foodfight
I've heard of employees implying it was a lie
Rotten. The documentary is called Rotten.
7:21 of course cheesle the weasle would be involved in child endangerment to some degree
the fact that foodfight was intended to be a large scale cinematic property is so surreal to me, even if this had come out at the time the unabashed confidence in a bunch of food mascots is insane.
Just how would a movie heavily featuring Joe Camel age lol
I think it would've done well had they been able to keep the M&M characters, Chester Cheetah, and the Coca Cola polar bears who were apparently also supposed to be in it.
To me, that just fits with the whole story. This guy was clearly a snakeoil salesman and manipulated clueless investors into thinking that this could work. That anyone thought this was a good idea perfectly fits with the story of the creator scrapping the original reel and coming up with excuses to delay things.
@@ScooterinABEven if the movie came out, it'd be seen as a cynical cash-grab. You have original characters like Daredevil Dan, Dex Dogtective, and Sunshine Raisins yes, but the emphasis being put on corporate mascots makes the film feel so hollow and cynical. People don't associate food mascots with heart and storytelling; they exist only to push a product and it feels wrong that the film was targeted towards kids.
The phrase "what were they cooking" has never been more applicable.
Except when my parents used to make dinner.
That phrase wasn’t even a thing when this movie came out
that plus crap
@@DarthBane123 YES!! 😂
Thank you for quoting Goldmember, lol
Meth, seemingly.
They weren't singing a generic song in the movie, they were singing the French national anthem (because the Casa Blanca reference needed to be more obvious, I guess)
The reason why there are so many Casablanca references is because...Food Fight IS Casablanca. Brand X are the Nazis and the song they sing in the released version is a butchered version of the French Naational Anthem which was what was being sung in defiance from Casablanca.
And the Naked Lady X reminds me of the model shoots they did for the main character in the first Final Fantasy movie. They actually made her a 'cover girl' for a magazine with specifically rendered 'shots' that presented her as a real person. Anyone 'member that?
I remember Lightning posing wirh a handbag
That's been done with other characters, like Lara Croft and Marge Simpson. Foodfight only _wished_ it had the cultural clout to pull it off, though.
I remember the video rental store I used to go to had a calendar with a pin-up poster of Dr. Aki Ross in a bikini. It was an official promotional release for the movie. A friend of mine actually got the store owner to give him the calendar some time after the movie was way past its VHR release date. The story was that there were some official renders of her in the same pose but without the bikini. And while I have seen such picture on the internet and it certainly looks consistent I really can't tell if it's official or a fan edit.
@@SpaceManRD Considering how unappealing Lady X is in general character design, her model is anti rule 34.... 😐
Also See BloodRain,Onchabara,Tabularasa and Splatter House 2010 did this too but they went futher than a Bikini. I dont get how this helped Splatter House sell since yeah its a game about a Guy in Hockey Mask fighting demons no one was playing that for the ladys,
the more merch its found the more it makes me realize how much they were planning/hoping this was going to be a huge franchise
It sounds a lot like the Action 52 / Cheetamen story.
@@KasumiKenshirou Don't remind me of this ...
The plan was to make more movies similar to it:
*Mascots - A animated film about sports mascot characters.
*Sunday Comics Capers - A animated film about comic strip characters.
*Arcade - A animated film about video game characters, which would've predated Wreck It Ralph.
I just like how they covered their own hides saying that they lost the footage (either in a fire or theft), forcing them to rework the film from scratch, and we all believed them (to be fair, Toy Story 2 had similar problems in development), and it went unchallenged for nearly 2 DECADES.
I never believed it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It just never made any sense as to why anyone would want to steal this. The only POSSIBLE explanation would be a disgruntled employee that wanted to get back at his employer, but I can't see anyone risking jail time rather than just quitting and getting a new job.
I think it just looked atrocious enough for people to just sort of... believe it.
@@KasumiKenshirouagreed why would anyone want this garbage. Just Larry being a liar and hack.
@@KasumiKenshirou mmmm interesting
The movie was so low-effort that it seemed plausible. No sane person would go to bat for fucking FOODFIGHT.
The fact that Kassanoff "didn't like the way storyboards looked and thought investors wouldn't understand them" tells me everything about why this movie end up being like this.
12:41 These are not animations, they're lowpoly layout shots
That nude Lady X photo really says a lot about Kassanoff and his terrible management
In hindsight, one has to wonder how much involvement he really had in the first Mortal Kombat movie, or who we should thank for keeping him in check
OMG boobs! Call the police, lol
after seeing the photo, it's very strange that her perky bits have more detail than any other part of the model.
@@RadikAlice that's actually a very good point... I didn't even know he was involved with it.
@@Mike14264 I tend to forget myself, and side note. That Tetris movie he's connected to _must_ be in development hell
I find it utterly hilarious how you refer to the literal French National Anthem as "a generic song".
cut him some slack, he's american /hj
He said "Spain" while pointing at France on a map on another video of his
Edit: its in his inital coverage of the "Everyone Knows That" song + corrected the country he got wrong
@@PsycheTrance65 it's pretty embarrassing to not know geography when you make public content.
@@hawktalon7890 ikr. i can understand not recognizing a national anthem, but its literally easy to look up where in the map places are supposed to be.
he put that image up without double checking which honestly puts to question how well researched some of these videos are
@@PsycheTrance65 Exactly, I'm definitely a bit skeptical to say the least. I guess some topics are kind of a "do your own research" thing if you can find information somewhere else.
@@PsycheTrance65and often calls euros pounds and vice versa 😭
3:23 2012!?!?! Good lord, even since the JonTron video, I always assumed this was from like 2005 😭
The movie was animated in 2007
@@thefunnyguyaha I thought it was supposed to be released in 2003 or something
@@BestOneEver247 it got delayed many times, many years
This movie looks like a 3D hentai parody of something
A parody of itself
So basically if 3DGSpot animated Foodfight.
@@samp.8099 no, a brand mascot hentai parody.
I appreciate the coverage on me and my colleagues' research! If it ever happens again though, don't be shy and feel free to send an email! I would've loved to help out or at least say hi. I did want to correct a few things: Cat Daddy does have the game, just not a build. The source code isn't compilable in its current state because the tools needed to do so have been scattered around over time. It's possible, they just didn't want to take the time to compile a new build for me. They also weren't comfortable providing the code on its own due to its usage of Cat Daddy's proprietary engines. I think I covered this in my blog post about it, but maybe I forgot. Also, Mars Chocolate did not back out specifically because of the peanut envy joke. They backed out because Threshold had forgotten the green M&M is a woman. A little surprised you never mentioned the documentary I made on this movie, I assume you saw it?
The "Dare the Day" chapter book does still exist with its author, along with an adult novelization of the film. Unfortunately the author was not comfortable sending me either of these. Cest la vie.
I did send you an email a few months ago about The Works, but I'm not sure if you ever saw it. Regardless, would love to chat if you're open to it.
I also saw "Rotten: Behind the Foodfight" when it premiered just this year (2024), and I was wonderfully enlightened! I wonder what other movies could this mess of an animated movie's behind-the-scenes be the most similar to? Perhaps either the legendary "Thief and the Cobbler", or maybe another movie, like "Heaven's Gate" (the infamous 1980 film that put "The Deer Hunter" director Michael Cimino's career dead in the water, ended the "New Hollywood" age, and got its distributor, United Artists, sold to MGM the year after its release)?
There is a documentary called Persistence of Vision, about the development of the Thief and the Cobbler.
@@highfiveanimations I heard.
Well since the internet has the models and assets now. The internet can reconstruct/remake the original version.
Holy shit, the naked Lady X thing is real. Kassanoff is on an entirely different level of fuckery.
The man was legitimately horny on main throughout the entire movie's production. The early version of FoodFight allegedly didn't really have the racy humor the released version has; Larry Kasanoff insisted the writers throw in more innuendoes to make the film more mature, while completely forgetting it's meant to be a family-friendly film.
We seriously need a foodfight reanimated project
Yeah i do too, in fact i think at this point a foodfight reanimated project is required
More food fight lost media! 😁
I hate sponsors in videos usually, but that sponsor made me laugh by how ironic it is since it’s on a video like this.
Showing the real product was a mistake. That chicken florentine did not look good. lol
I was at a thrift shop with my friend a few months ago and found a 16 inch Charlie the Tuna with the 2008 Foodfight tag, it was when I found out they had merch, the quality is for sure from a claw machine. The amount they wanted to do with Foodfight is insane, I guess it makes sense because of the amount of advertising for other brands. I like to think of an alternative universe where there was this giant ad movie with merch just selling more ads all over in every media.
This video unlocked a memory of me seeing that pilot squirrel in a claw machine, and thinking why I did not recognize a character, that looked too specific of a design to be a one off.
The food fight game actually looks like it would've been fun
Back in the 2000's, even bad movies got kick ass video games.
I had a Cheasle the Weasel plush when I was a child! My dad got it for me from a local pizza joint's claw machine. I've never seen FoodFight before in my life but I will always recognize that weasel
I always thought of Foodfight as this obscure internet curiosity. I didn't even realize that there was so much of it all around me, and so recently too...
Kinda scary isn't it
i need to know something about that cheesel action figure that was shown in the unrealeased merch image
Looks like Playmates was going to be involved in the merchandising. I can barely make out their logo, but that is indeed them.
The funniest thing about Food Fight is that I saw clips from the original version of the film...
...it still sucked. It legit was still an ugly, amateurish piece of crap. The fact that the director/producer (I don't care who it was) said this movie's failure was a result of "espionage" is so irrelevant. Even the intended version of this movie was junk.
7:25 "Is that a Poop Rat"
Ngl. Im part of the food fight fandom now
food fight more like freak fight😭
Ok, the Foodfight game Sounded pretty fun
My favorite lost media genre is when an IP is either failed or unfinished, then finding all the merch created because the creatives were SO CONFIDENT that they had the next Big Thing on their hands. Learning about the development and work thrown into an failure is such a trip.
This movie is not only arguably the worst animated movie of all time... It's also the biggest sham of an animated film ever made.
Wasn't Lawrence Kassanoff exposed as a creep or something like that?
Yes, he used to walk around the studio going “mmmm lady x”
Wouldn't surprise me, honestly. The nude Lady X thing and how he pushed for really inappropriate humor in a kids' film tells me he was really immature and couldn't keep his urges under control. FoodFight is the textbook definition of "the writer's poorly disguised fetish(es)".
Kind of a random question but I'm curious to what your opinion is on it: What do you think is the greatest lost media find in the past few years AS A WHOLE? The first thing that comes to my mind is the wicked witch episode of Sesame Street.
I agree with your pick. The Wicked Witch Sesame Street episode is probably the one that the most people would care about. Most Americans and citizens of many other countries grew up with Sesame Street, but most people don't even know Food Fight ever existed.
“Everyone knows it!”
While I have a lot of smaller favorites, I think the discovery of never-before-seen footage from Cleopatra 1917 was amazing. It’s only two minutes of what used to be two hours, but it felt like looking right into the past, and the fact that they could find least media that was over 100 years old is wild.
They really had high expectations for this film.
Also, WTF indeed with that thumbnail, lol.
“The biggest unsolved Hollywood mystery…:
::The Black Dahlia has entered the chat:: 😂
I tease…another great video. And dear lord, just when you think this is well-tread territory…
Or who killed George Reeves, TV's first Superman actor.
@@KasumiKenshirou Or how Marisa Tomei won an Academy Award for My Cousin Vinny....
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Oooookaaaayyy...wasn't expecting that...
* Turns into a potato and rolls away *
Only real ones will remember the og thumbnail
"Mmm lady x" -larring casinof
Honestly, Foodfight was always destined to fail.
Let's take the hypothetical, best case scenario as an example. In this hypothetical version of events, the movie would look just like the trailer and get/retain all of the product licenses they wanted.
First of all, it was going to rely heavily on mascots from real world products. However, the vast majority of the mascots planned for the movie were from brands which only exist in America. The rest of the world would have zero familiarity or interest in them and a lot of the dialogue or jokes relating to them would go right over everyone's heads. Given that the main selling point was "Oh, I know that character!", it was never going to succeed outside of the USA.
So, what about America? Surely it would do well there? Nope. It would have just been an extremely long ad break. I know it's a common joke to call Americans stupid and see them as mindless consumers but that's just a stereotype. We have to at least give them some credit.
There's no way that any audience, American or not, would see this as anything more than what it was: a lazy attempt to make them pay to watch a bunch of ads, held together with a very flimsy, poorly written plot.
I mean, come on! The villainous brand which tries to take over is literally called "Brand X". That name has been synonymous with generic/cheaper products for decades, long before Foodfight was even planned. The message of the movie was essentially "Don't buy stuff from smaller companies or try to get a bargain, elsewhere. Those brands are evil. Just buy our overpriced crap, instead". Who on Earth would be naive enough to fall for that? I'd say pretty much nobody.
FOUR YEARS?!
THE MERCH RELEASED *FOUR YEARS* BEFORE THE MOVIE?!?!
Not going to lie, the game sounded kind of fun
Ok no offense but how can _you_ tell there was white text on a white background.
EDIT: OH GOD I ACTUALLY SEE IT NOW. Why would they do this!?!?
It's white text on a VERY SLIGHTLY different off-white background. You may need to squint or tilt your screen a bit to be able to read it.
You either need to visit an eye doctor or turn your screen brightness up, it is visible but it's annoying to read
So this is basically sausage party before sausage party
Ironically, it took 8 years for Sausage Party to get made, that was because studios were worried about the content
What kind of parents do you have to have to make you want to climb up into a claw catcher machine to steal a Goddamn poop rat
They don't sing a "generic song" in the movie...they sing the French national anthem.
Which is the same song they sing in Casablanca
The fact that this content was cut tarnishes the movie even more. It sounds like the sizzle real was probably deleted
cant believe Im seeing this posted 10 seconds later
I saw it being posted 6 minutes ago
lmao u chaged the thumbnail
If I worked on this movie, I'd just tell everyone that I worked on Rapsitte Street Kids instead.
When Foodfight has more to discover...... So you have to watch it more:
"AM I DEAD YET?..."
The more info that comes out about the behind the scenes of this movie, the more I question how someone as incompetent as Larry Kasanoff could have -directed- produced something as amazing as the original Mortal Kombat movie.
He wasn't the director of MK; he was a producer. The director was Paul W. S. Anderson. But thanks for the info, as I had no idea the Foodfight guy was involved with the Mortal Kombat movie.
Looking at his IMDb, he directed "Mortal Kombat: The Live Tour" and wrote the story for Mortal Combat: Annihilation, and produced the crappy CGI and crappy 2D Mortal Kombat cartoons. He was an executive producer on True Lies and co-founded Lightstorm Entertainment with James Cameron. (The role of an executive producer frequently has no creative input into the movies.)
Camp is producing somthing unique and thrilling by accident- genius is doing it on purpose
I just keep thinking this movie was meant to be some massive level scam of some kind, but anything would be up to speculation. You know, sort of like how Rapcity Kids wound up being. The self sabotage feels like he was trying to back out entirely, but had some contractual obligation to finish the thing. Something about that workprint makes me feel like they didn't really get the approval for all the mascots initially used, and they were hoping to get the go ahead once the film was financed. I dunno. It's like this film was destined to be awful, even if the animation was major studio quality. Also, not saying the brand names in the novel reminds me of family cook books that use very specific candies in cake/cookie recipes, but have to call them by odd generic descriptions ( M&M's being "candy coated chocolate pieces" for example).
I thought it was fairly well understood to have been a money-laundering scheme.
2:40 This "room inside a room inside a room" must have been a desk drawer inside of an office room, and he considered the building to be a room itself 😂😂😂
Yo heads up, we totally use 3D in animatics in the industry
Do they look like the ones they used?
@@caucasoidape8838 You'd be surprised, half the stuff I approve, I'm amazed got all the way through the executives. Some shots get by with just TPose if it's just talking head parts. They are getting better looking since Unity, Unreal, and Blender Eevee exist now for free for productions.
it being "full of recognizable brands" was part of the problem - the movie was trying to be a gigantic advertisement.
YES! FINALLY! SOMEBODY FINALLY SAYS IT! The movie conceptually feels so cynical because it's nothing but a vehicle to push products. It's one thing to consult advertisers to help pay for your movie's production and in turn a character is drinking, eating or using their product, but companies were contacted to push their mascots. It feels really soulless. It's like when companies interact on Twitter. It's not real; it's all just business.
Oh hi right back!
I actually remember accessing a website based off of this movie and that's how I learned about this movie's existence. The only thing I remembered from that website was the film's title/logo and a cityscape-like design on the main page, but I can't really recall if there was any features or interactivity.
How many other characters in this movie we’re supposed to get naked besides the main filming because I’m kind of curious now that you say
It doesn't sound like the naked render was ever meant to be in the movie, but instead was for the creator's own...um...personal use.
@@KasumiKenshirou you’re probably right
11:12 Oh, that really would have been cute yeah.
I've got to say I don't understand people wishing we got the "better" version of this. this was not a diamond in the rough, it was a terrible premise executed terribly enough to become interesting. if we got the competently produced version it'd be an intelligence insulting piece of sterile corporate propaganda telling the audience not to buy generic store brands if they want to be a good person.
I remember seeing one of those books at 7:36 in a wholesale shop when my sister lived in a no-name city high up in the province...
5:54 Those are Q-Tips (cotton swabs) in this image, not matches.
DANG IT IT WAS A LIE????
Sounds like Sausage Party was inspired by this premise lol
If the story about the theft of an original "good version" of the movie were actually true, I would suspect the Sausage Party guys of committing the crime.
If I had a nickel...two movies about food coming to life in a grocery store with sex jokes..., etc.
It took 8 years for Sausage Party to get made because of it's content, it seems like just one hell of a coincidence.
@@billybarnett9518It was meant to be a parody of Pixar type movies like Toy Story. Yeah, pretty similar concept but I don't think they are really connected
Yo wtf, this thumbnail no way this was going to be in the movie, bruh the nostalgia critic joke of this movie being a fetish film now this joke makes more sense now unironically
The most fascinating oddity in the history of branded entertainment keeps on giving. It's amazing how much was invested,( and subsequently lost) on this awful IP!
Ya know, ever since I saw reviews for food fight I genuinely wonder if someone behind sausage party was the thief. The plots are very similar and removing the more vulgar parts of sausage party I can see where the two would fit together and fill in some holes in food fight
Jontron was only the tip of the iceberg, also having known of the freak that was Larry K. - I can’t look at the poop weasel without winching or having a pit form in my stomach. He should not be allowed near children’s entertainment (even though he’s still getting work as a executive producer but his filmography basically stopped in 2012)
(Also found out he was involved with LEGO Clutch Powers and my childhood just gets more disturbing)
I believe that this movie was definitely a way for them to launder money. No way this movie should have been this expensive and literally almost no one had ever even heard about it.
1) I'm sad the better version isn't out there
2) I'm happy we have most of the footage from the sizzle reel
3) The movie may be bad, but I must compliment the guy for sticking with it & actually getting something done. Even if he did lie, & even if he did have someone make a weird pic of one of the characters.
I guess the ultimate Foodfight was between Larry Kasanoff and his "meat".
I'm physically incapable of ignoring a video that contains new Foodfight! information.
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"HOLD for pg 20 of script INT COPA
Dex fails his attempt to catch a raisin in his mouth"
(Not sure if anyone else was able to see that?)
people see this and seriously dont get how it was a front for the actual money going somewhere else?
I can't help myself what it would be like if Larry Kassenoff and Jeff Spankenburg became an unholy duo of investor frauds. Only mix the infamous Lady X pic and Jeff and his company forgetting about checking IDs when making The Guy Game and you have one big disaster created.
And I also pray for the Foodfight game to be one day dumped.
All these answered questions and yet I still can't figure out what an Exobite is.
The food fight books probably never got finished. Any evidence of them will likely I think just be early development material like a plot idea.
Crazy to think that in another universe, Foodfight might be a washed out franchise that pumped out sequel after sequel in mid 2000s and a staple childhood for most people.
So you knew it was a Casablanca reference, but didn’t know that they just used the actual song from Casablanca (aka the French National Anthem)?
5:50 I don't think this would have ever gotten made, because they'd need to get the brands onboard. Can you imagine going to Pringles and ask if they're cool with their chips being used as a gun? Or about depicting Blow Pops as incendiary devices? I love the concept art (especially the war-hardened Keebler Elves), but it would have never survived the licensing process.
I’d kinda like to see a complete fan remake obviously without the actual brands as what a proper movie could look like if it was handled better.
That's a lot of work, but would be hilarious if it was an improvement over the original.
@@caucasoidape8838 Exactly!
Nude render?!
I have a theory that all the funds for this movie went to the lady x nude model
He definitely wasted time, money, and other resources that should've been used on the actual movie. I wonder if the character was based on a real person, like a girl he had a crush on in high school or something. It's just really weird to waste money on that when there's plenty of other places to get that sort of thing.
@@KasumiKenshirou I could totally see that being the case
i feel bad for this movie (nevermind , guess larry lied)
It’s pretty funny how the junior novelization is better than the movie!
New? Foodfight? Content? Found? I fully believed the movie was stolen, think we all did. I think they fully expected this to be the next Toy Story, even bigger. Well, It Is Infact known, infamously atleast
This film is nothing short of a disaster, however I’m eagerly awaiting on what will be found next of Foodfight.
The absolute shock I felt hearing that there was no theft was insane. I don’t keep up with Foodfight lost media so I genuinely thought the theft was real.
Brand X Brand X. They will take over Twitter. Brand X
Those photoshop storyboards absolutely baffle me. How could anybody look at that and okay it?
The movie may be bad but Wayne Brady’s song Dare the days is absolute fire 🔥
15:15 Verbalase then looked at Larry Casanoff and said, “Hold my rapping mic.”
,,YOU must be Leonard! The Managerrr"🙃
Good lord, that test animation might have been passable in 1985, but it would have looked dated as hell by 1990.
Looks kinda like the Money For Nothing music video.
Foodfight feels like a project that Tim from On Cinema would come up with, except it was actually finished and released to the public.
Funny thing is, I keep seeing those cheapo dolls at gatcha machines in restaurants around montreal lol