To think all these years I’ve been marking the grade stick (so I don’t forget my original BM), doing the math and sliding the sight all day long… when I could have just watched this video and saved countless hours lol.
Thanks for this. The second part is exactly what I’m looking for. I’m just getting in to grading and about to buy a laser but figured I better learn how to use it first. 😂
Without setting a slope …crazy how lasers can to many thing’s once u master joe to really use it ..that’s y old skool transit n basic math u can never beat 💯
Great video, thank you! I'm also looking at the Spectra LL300S laser that you have in this video. I was going to ask you if you knew the grade/slope range that you can set with this laser (for some reason this is not published information, even in the user guide), but after reading through all of the comments (including the RUclips drama comments) I saw that this is your buddy's laser, so that is probably not something you know offhand. I don't know why they don't publish that important information, some guys only need 1% slope, some guys need 15%+ slope! Again, good video.
@@CAT314CLCR That was super helpful info, thank you! I didn't realize this model existed, I thought they went from the LL series to the GL series with digital slope control (too much $ for me). This is perfect, I just ordered one. I just read through the users manual for the LL300S & HV302, and it seems that the RC402N remote really adds additional functionality that is not accessible from the laser itself. It also looks like the "rechargeable battery" option just gives you (4) NiMH D cells and a cell holder, so I decided to just roll with the alkaline version and I'll throw some rechargeable D cells in it. Thank you again!
Nice job! Wasn't confusing, course I am a plumber and do this quite often. What I would like to know is about the laser itself. That looks like one of the Spectra units, what model is it and do you like it and does it work consistently good or bad? What receiver do you have? Can I mount that receiver on the boom of a backhoe dig septic tank lines that are very close to level(1% slope)?
I don't remember which model this is as it was my buddies laser. It's a really good laser and has a pretty good range even in bright sun. You would have to rig up some sort holder to use this eye on a machine. It wouldn't take much, just a small bracket that the receiver could grab onto. Edit: they do make receivers that are purpose built to mount to your machine.
The key is having the laser within a couple feet of your first elevation measurement. You will set your initial height very close to the laser. When you adjust the slope for the second step there won't be any height adjustment at your initial elevation point because you are so close to the laser. I hope that makes sense. I might have to do a second video to demonstrate this.
I’m confused , can I email you lol? You’re shooting in on a spot level with the laser at ten feet ? Did you grade the spot where the tripod is sitting or did you just set the laser wherever it was and then set percentage from there ? What would the math be at 200 ft for 1 percent ?
Adding this question to my list of ideas for a Down & Dirty topic. Due to lack of time, I'm starting to take consulting calls on the side. If you'd be interested in that, shoot me a message at thatdiggerdude@gmail.com. Thanks for the support brother!
When we say tenths we aren't talking about tenths of an inch, we are talking about tenths of a foot. Each black number on the rod represents one tenth of a foot. The small marks in between are hundredths of a foot.
@@natehill8069 Features aren't going to vary that much between lasers. Two big factors I would look for when buying a laser is 1: someone local who can service it and 2: ease of use. Outside of those two things, it's really up to you on if you want slope functions or not. I can honestly tell you in the 8+ years I've been doing this I have only used the slope function maybe 3 times? Your line of work may vary and you might use the slope function more often but I wouldn't get super hung up on it. As for a grade rod, I would recommend the standard fiberglass, rectangular grade rod and I would highly recommend you going with a tenths rod over an inches rod. You will use tenths WAY more than you'll ever use feet and inches in the dirt world.
@@natehill8069 it's far easier with decimals. Almost every print out there is done in tenths so if you get in inches Rod you will spend all day converting back and forth.
@@DieselandIron LOL have him buy you a spectra 412N. They got me one. I absolutely love it. I’m currently using it for some storm water RCP completely love the unit
Seems easier to just move the laser eye. Only way I’ve ever done it or see it done. Get your first reading correct. Go 10 feet ahead, move your laser eye up 2.5” for a 2% downslope. And get your reading. Continue moving every 10 feet.
You can do that but you open yourself up to math errors by not paying attention. If you take the time to set your laser correctly you don't have to think about it.
Setting up slopes is the only time you really need two people. While you could get away with doing it as a one man show, it is significantly faster to have two people.
@@DieselandIron The laser I have now (Leica Rugby 640) has a remote, so you can set slopes with just one person. It's pretty handy. Self-levels either vertical or horizontal and also has a beam out the top, so it can be set up on its side to double as a pipe laser to give you both slope and trench alignment. And you can also set the eye to only rotate in a 10, 45, or 90 degree arc for grading certain shapes or avoiding interference with another crew's laser. Super handy features I never knew I wanted before I had them.
@@DieselandIron It's pretty neat! I never thought I'd use some of it, but a couple months ago I even used the 90 degree angle thing to line up a footing corner after the forklift wiped out half my hubs haha
Tenths is what we use on the dirt side of the industry. Rather than dividing a foot into 12 segments (inches) we divide it into 10 segments (tenths). We are essentially converting over to the metric system while not using metric....because Europeans are dumb and 'Merica is better...*insert screaming eagle sound effect*
@@katdeskinner calm down there "keeper of knowledge." you could take a second to recognize that this is a video for people who know nothing about reading grade rods. The goal was to keep things simple so they could follow along without creating further confusion.
@@DieselandIron That is the most basic introduction to the device is letting people know it is not inches and it is not marks. That is done and its simplest form. If you see it is complicated maybe that just explains a lot. A lot of first-year apprentice is learned this they also are the keeper of the knowledge. Maybe you just haven’t got there yet.
Thank you for making this video. This is the best video for setting grade I e found.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the straight up video , I get the set up now.
This will save allot of time on slope grading definitely thumbs up to you !
Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! Shoot me a message if you have any questions.
To think all these years I’ve been marking the grade stick (so I don’t forget my original BM), doing the math and sliding the sight all day long… when I could have just watched this video and saved countless hours lol.
I'm here to help!!😂
Great tutorial! Saved me a bunch of time
Glad I was able to help!
Thanks for this. The second part is exactly what I’m looking for. I’m just getting in to grading and about to buy a laser but figured I better learn how to use it first. 😂
😆 True! Glad the video was helpful
This is the best video/explanation of how set your laser to the slope percentage that you want.
Thank you! I appreciate the compliment!
@Diesel și Iron Vreau această mașină agricolă cu laser
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Cool video I've never been able to understand the sloping function and this video was nicely done 👍
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback.
Fantastic way of explaining this! Thanks so much, used this method this am to figure parking lot slope!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching brother!
Without setting a slope …crazy how lasers can to many thing’s once u master joe to really use it ..that’s y old skool transit n basic math u can never beat 💯
They are handy tools for sure.
Great explanation. Thx, I like your common sense approach to describing the functions.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the compliment!
Great video, thank you! I'm also looking at the Spectra LL300S laser that you have in this video. I was going to ask you if you knew the grade/slope range that you can set with this laser (for some reason this is not published information, even in the user guide), but after reading through all of the comments (including the RUclips drama comments) I saw that this is your buddy's laser, so that is probably not something you know offhand. I don't know why they don't publish that important information, some guys only need 1% slope, some guys need 15%+ slope! Again, good video.
@@CAT314CLCR That was super helpful info, thank you! I didn't realize this model existed, I thought they went from the LL series to the GL series with digital slope control (too much $ for me). This is perfect, I just ordered one. I just read through the users manual for the LL300S & HV302, and it seems that the RC402N remote really adds additional functionality that is not accessible from the laser itself. It also looks like the "rechargeable battery" option just gives you (4) NiMH D cells and a cell holder, so I decided to just roll with the alkaline version and I'll throw some rechargeable D cells in it. Thank you again!
@@CAT314CLCR Sorry for the delay, but I went with the HV302 for the additional functionality over the LL300S. Thank you again!
What laser would you recommend to set up a receiver on a dozer
CR 700 spectra.
A good Spectra laser will last you for decades. The model recommended below is a good start.
Nice job! Wasn't confusing, course I am a plumber and do this quite often. What I would like to know is about the laser itself. That looks like one of the Spectra units, what model is it and do you like it and does it work consistently good or bad? What receiver do you have? Can I mount that receiver on the boom of a backhoe dig septic tank lines that are very close to level(1% slope)?
I don't remember which model this is as it was my buddies laser. It's a really good laser and has a pretty good range even in bright sun. You would have to rig up some sort holder to use this eye on a machine. It wouldn't take much, just a small bracket that the receiver could grab onto.
Edit: they do make receivers that are purpose built to mount to your machine.
Great explanation makes 100 percent senses best video explaining this in English thank you
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks for making it.
Thanks for watching it!
How do you do slopes on a curved line?
Also do you check slope every 10 ft
Wouldn’t the ground need to be at the exact same grade between laser and receiver to set the slope this way?
The key is having the laser within a couple feet of your first elevation measurement. You will set your initial height very close to the laser. When you adjust the slope for the second step there won't be any height adjustment at your initial elevation point because you are so close to the laser. I hope that makes sense. I might have to do a second video to demonstrate this.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Okay so take this specific tool that does everything for you and use it. Got it.
Nailed it.
Very good
Thanks Grant!
I’m confused , can I email you lol?
You’re shooting in on a spot level with the laser at ten feet ?
Did you grade the spot where the tripod is sitting or did you just set the laser wherever it was and then set percentage from there ?
What would the math be at 200 ft for 1 percent ?
Adding this question to my list of ideas for a Down & Dirty topic. Due to lack of time, I'm starting to take consulting calls on the side. If you'd be interested in that, shoot me a message at thatdiggerdude@gmail.com. Thanks for the support brother!
Thanx, I get it now
Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Did you not move the receiver down 2 inches not 2 tens of an inch check it at time frame 2:25
When we say tenths we aren't talking about tenths of an inch, we are talking about tenths of a foot. Each black number on the rod represents one tenth of a foot. The small marks in between are hundredths of a foot.
Do any receivers show distance from the laser? Seems like that would be a)handy to have and b) simple to do electronics-wise
Not that I am aware of. There might be lasers on the market that have that feature but I've never seen it before.
@@DieselandIron If you wouldnt mind, what should one look for in a tripod for the laser, and in the grade rod?
@@natehill8069 Features aren't going to vary that much between lasers. Two big factors I would look for when buying a laser is 1: someone local who can service it and 2: ease of use.
Outside of those two things, it's really up to you on if you want slope functions or not. I can honestly tell you in the 8+ years I've been doing this I have only used the slope function maybe 3 times? Your line of work may vary and you might use the slope function more often but I wouldn't get super hung up on it.
As for a grade rod, I would recommend the standard fiberglass, rectangular grade rod and I would highly recommend you going with a tenths rod over an inches rod. You will use tenths WAY more than you'll ever use feet and inches in the dirt world.
@@DieselandIron Thanks, Inches vs decimal was going to be my next question. I can see why it would make percentages easier.
@@natehill8069 it's far easier with decimals. Almost every print out there is done in tenths so if you get in inches Rod you will spend all day converting back and forth.
What type of laser is this???
This was a Spectra laser. Don't quote me on the model number but I believe it was the GL412N.
@@DieselandIron اريد مثل هذا الجهاز الليزر ارسل لي رقمك واتس أب
Ese lacer hace el eslop todo al rededor de el o solo recto
El láser solo tiene la pendiente en una dirección. La parte superior del láser muestra el plano de la pendiente.
Thanks that was great!
Thanks for watching!
It would be cool if you had a helper and showed how it works actually. But you got the point across
I agree 10 fold. These are difficult videos to make without a second person. I think I'll redo these in the future now that I have an assistant.
You should get the controller for you laser it is a game changer
Good to hear from you again! I agree, I should get the remote....but I'm not buying one for Rick's laser 😂
@@DieselandIron LOL have him buy you a spectra 412N. They got me one. I absolutely love it. I’m currently using it for some storm water RCP completely love the unit
@@famfam6205 thanks for the info!
@@famfam6205what complete set up would you buy to mount the reciever on a dozer
Seems easier to just move the laser eye. Only way I’ve ever done it or see it done. Get your first reading correct. Go 10 feet ahead, move your laser eye up 2.5” for a 2% downslope. And get your reading. Continue moving every 10 feet.
You can do that but you open yourself up to math errors by not paying attention. If you take the time to set your laser correctly you don't have to think about it.
2/10s, 4/10s? I am a newbie and I have no idea what you're talking about
Check my channel. I have a video on converting from inches to tenths and I have another video showing you the basics of reading a grade rod.
What's the math for setting slopes with a stick in feet?
What exactly do you mean? Give me an example and we can work through it together.
What’s all hat background claptrap
I don't have a clue what you are talking about here...
I thought it was a one person process. You need 2 people to set it up.
One of these receivers stats one person process.
Setting up slopes is the only time you really need two people. While you could get away with doing it as a one man show, it is significantly faster to have two people.
@@DieselandIron The laser I have now (Leica Rugby 640) has a remote, so you can set slopes with just one person. It's pretty handy. Self-levels either vertical or horizontal and also has a beam out the top, so it can be set up on its side to double as a pipe laser to give you both slope and trench alignment. And you can also set the eye to only rotate in a 10, 45, or 90 degree arc for grading certain shapes or avoiding interference with another crew's laser. Super handy features I never knew I wanted before I had them.
@@eldonhill4840 wow! I've got to look that one up. Those are features I'd absolutely pay for
@@DieselandIron It's pretty neat! I never thought I'd use some of it, but a couple months ago I even used the 90 degree angle thing to line up a footing corner after the forklift wiped out half my hubs haha
@@eldonhill4840 I could see us using it in small pipe runs as well
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Wtf is 2 tenths. I only know 32nds 16ths 8ths quarters and so on.
Tenths is what we use on the dirt side of the industry. Rather than dividing a foot into 12 segments (inches) we divide it into 10 segments (tenths). We are essentially converting over to the metric system while not using metric....because Europeans are dumb and 'Merica is better...*insert screaming eagle sound effect*
don't wanna learn from a guy who calls two marks past 2 ....
Thanks for the input David.
@@DieselandIron please use correct terminology if your “teaching “
Feet, tenths of a foot, hundredths of a foot for an engineering grade rod.
@@katdeskinner calm down there "keeper of knowledge." you could take a second to recognize that this is a video for people who know nothing about reading grade rods. The goal was to keep things simple so they could follow along without creating further confusion.
@@DieselandIron That is the most basic introduction to the device is letting people know it is not inches and it is not marks. That is done and its simplest form. If you see it is complicated maybe that just explains a lot. A lot of first-year apprentice is learned this they also are the keeper of the knowledge. Maybe you just haven’t got there yet.