I have to agree with him, how can she care about proper grammar while they're having a fight? Like, that would be the last thing on my mind as long as our feelings are fully communicated. Also, when she says "You can't even play Solitaire, imbecile!" and when he says "I used to be able to do alot of things before I married you!", I always say "Ouch!" Lol 😆
@Don K I stopped watching the show long before they got married but seeing this clip is like the most realistic start and end to a heated argument between a newly wed could ever.
@donk8105 - I love listening to my neighbors fight! I swear, it’s better than Netflix! My new neighbor, who just moved in across from me, loves it too! She always calls me when there is a fight going on! We’ve actually had to call the police twice already on a couple different occasions due to things getting a bit too out of hand.
I like how they made this scene so realistic on the way that it starts out with lots of people (not just the their friends) in the area and then in the end it’s emptied out with only their friends left because of the awkwardness that their fight brings out.
@@CodenameEnVoR "Back in my day 'pEoPlE uSed To'" no the fuck they didn't. If there's an argument or a fight people stand around and watch, they don't leave. Take off your rose-colored glasses, and stop lying about a glorified past so you can feel warm and cozy about a RUclips clip.
This is SO well written and how communication falls apart. To be fair, Corey was extremely emotionally intelligent and ASKED for space and to be left alone TWICE. She kept pushing and pushing and thats when people explode.
Whatttt????? Yeah he definitely needs space but him getting upset out of jealousy to begin with was the total opposite of emotional maturity. He was being egotistical and sensitive. He should recognize she did her best but he couldn’t see past his own ego.
@@heidifierro5768 I think you missed the real issue. He wasn't simply jealous of Topanga, he was upset that she often throws her knowledge, skills and accomplishments in his face. This is a trait Topanga has had since the show first started. She often belittled Cory and Shawn for their lack of knowledge and often corrected them like she was their teacher. If you noticed, even during an argument she couldn't help herself but to correct Cory's grammar from "good" to "well". She unfortunately flexes how naturally gifted she is in toxic ways. While this may have been a little annoying when they were kids, it's likely downright emasculating now that they're married. Notice she says things like "LITTLE project" or "STUPID magazine" even though these are things Cory explained that he's passionate about. Cory can be very whiny, but he was asking for space to sort this thoughts. Topanga didn't respect that, like she unfortunately doesn't respect a lot of what Cory does. It's subconscious on her part, but her behavior shows that she doesn't respect Cory as a man all that much. That was Cory's real issue. I've noticed that many people who are saying Cory was completely wrong are women. Which makes me believe that a good amount of women could be doing what Topanga does, and can't see how it effects their men. Instead flipping it as though their men are "jealous" of them or "insecure", while being oblivious to the real issue at hand. And unfortunately I know a lot of men are bottling it up, just like Cory was trying to do in this clip. Which is a little scary
When people need space, it's a good thing but sometimes they need to blow up like this to get all the emotions out. Now they know what the problem is and they can work together on it.
@@Emperoress I agree, but they could've had this conversation when he was calm and had time to think. A more emotionally vulnerable and genuine conversation without all of the rubble (insults, yelling, demeaning) in the way. The comment above yours by K' the Barbarian goes into the meaning of it all very well. I also know it's better to give someone space when they ask because I personally have had this issue. It's hard not to say things you don't mean to people you care about when pressured, but people do so anyway for what often feels like their own convenience. It's better to give the person space as they asked. It's healthier and shows you have more respect for them than a curiosity for drama. He mustered the stability to warn her, which can oftentimes be difficult to do during those moments, and she pressured him anyway. She reaped what she sewed. Yes, the emotions were shared, but in an unhealthy and hurtful way rather than calmly and in a loving mindset and environment between the two. Now that they'll have time to cool down, they'll be able to reconcile and do the latter. :)
This is why I love Boy Meets World. The show basically talks about how to handle life. In this case in marriage, it should be a team. When you come together in marriage, it shouldn’t be competition. It’s supposed to be two people coming together as one; at least it’s supposed to be anyway. It shouldn’t matter if your spouse is better at something than the other. They supposed to balance each other out. You’re supposed to be encourage each other and bring out the best in one another.
@@leelaandrus2180 Thanks Leela! That means a lot! I would encourage my wife to be the best she could be whenever I get married. It takes two to tango, and two to make it work😊👊🏾🎸
That's kind of the reason why I never got married. Me and my partner both felt that once you're married your mentality suddenly changes unexpectedly. I guess that could have also had something to do with the fact that we both had parents who regularly argued over all sorts of silly little things.
@@jacobmassey3897 I feel you on that. I’m not married either. I’m used to being single, that I don’t know if I’ll ever meet anyone. I’m used to doing things on my own, that I don’t know if it will ever happen. I’m used to rejection to the point I’ve become numb. I don’t feel anything anymore.
Beautiful and relatable scene. Both are in the wrong. Cory's built up resentment and insecurity got the best of him. Topanga's lack of respect and awareness got the best of her. I loved this show growing up, loved the writing.
Except it didn’t get the better of him? He asked her for some space and she kept pushing, that’s why it got the better of him, otherwise he might’ve been able to work through it.
@@nemofish3504No, he would have just kept suppressing it. She was pushing because she was sick of it and something had to give. The truth _should_ come out, not be left to fester.
@@nemofish3504I agree. When someone asks you, especially twice just to leave them alone, give them their space. Give them time to work through whatever is going on in their head.
@@highfae just because the truth doesn't 'come out', doesn't mean it festers. Alot of men just need time and space (which he asked for, twice). There's tons of arguments that were spared in my relationships because I had time and space to work/sort things out on my own.
Topanga is so smart in a lot of ways, but she isn’t very bright. She minimized his goal by calling it “a little magazine project,” which shows some kind of judgment. Ben is also way out of line; her success is not his failure. And the worst part of this is they aired the grievances in front of people, which is a complete lack of respect. Bad job all around. But this scene is very human.
It is human….these are the exact fights people have behind closed doors unless they have done the work in therapy and even then it happens with high stress and emotions.
Corey needed space and told topanga as much. But she didn’t listen and he lashed out. She was wrong for not giving him space. Thus Corey said something he didn’t mean in anger, like most people do, and immediately regretted it. Glad they showed them after this sitting down and talking about it.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
Cory meant everything he said, but he lacked tact in how he said it. Some things shouldn't be said, no matter how provoked you are into saying it. Though he did warn Topanga beforehand. She goaded him into saying what he did. Not saying he was right, but neither was she.
This show and the character dynamics were so good, little dated perhaps, but good. This is a really messy convo, where both of them say hurtful things that they don’t mean to say, but have a morsel of truth in them. The result is that both of them justifiably look like victim and aggressor at once. That’s a super realistic depiction of what relationship fights boil down to. It would have been way too easy for them to just have Corey blow up with Topanga purely the voice of reason. Instead, she says and does things that you can see are boxing him in, and then says he can’t do it, which she immediately regrets, as he understandably blows up.
I think people in the comments are missing the point of this argument. This isn’t Cory being jealous of Topanga. This is Cory feeling inadequate next to her. He knows he is being unreasonable which is why he tries to avoid the argument altogether at first. He points out how Topanga excels at everything she does while he struggles and instead of picking up that he needs validation and support from her in that moment she feels attacked and instead argues back which is what sets Cory off. Cory knew he was being unreasonable and instantly regretted everything he said as soon as she left knowing that everything was about his own self-esteem and not actually anything Topanga had done. I don’t think either were entirely in the wrong or in the right here. People aren’t perfect and don’t always have a calm and open discussion about their feelings. Sometimes people get angry and lash out at loved ones, especially when they don’t understand what they are feeling themselves.
Thank youu!! It's exactly that, corey was feeling not good enough in some way and topanga never meant to belittle him or shove it in his face she was really just trying to help. And thing is even irl most days you'd feel happy and be supportive of your partner if they're exceptional at what they do but then somedays when you don't feel that good about yourself, their success seems just like another thing proving that your loser. Neither of them is right or wrong, they just each have a different pov and understanding (or misunderstanding) of what the other meant.
They were both being unreasonable and making personal attacks, and for some reason (???) Topanga decided it was a good idea to have this fight in public and Cori went along with that. Which was...not a good choice lol. You can't be vulnerable and honest with your partner when there's an audience like that. "I feel insecure compared to your accomplishments" and "I brag about my accomplishments because I'm also insecure" are difficult enough to say to your best friend, let alone a room full of people.
When you’re married young, this is so real. Me and my husband married pretty young for our generation (23 and 24) and I have always loved this show, but got my husband into watching it too. We watched this episode together and said “WOW we’ve had fights exactly like this!” And we overcame it the same way they later did, sitting down and talking it out after breathing for a while. Marriage is hard work, but nearly 5 years on it’s the best decision I’ve ever made and I love it not all day every day, but every single day I’m glad I married the right person.
My cousin and his wife got married at 22 and they've had fights where they contiplated divorce and both admitted that they think it was a mistake getting married young but 22 years of marriage they're still going strong. Marriage isn't easy, but like my cousin says he wouldn't change a thing. Because he couldn't picture his life without his wife in it
My husband and I married young (he turned 21 on our honeymoon). That being said we never fight like this but we are both great communicators. We also work to always build eachother up and never tell the other an idea is bad but always work together to make it better. Married 16 years now and it just keeps getting better. Marriage is easy with the right person.
Marriage is only hard if you make it hard. When you're young, you hold onto your egos and fight to no end. Marriage is just hanging out with your best friend, and being mature enough to understand that you married a human being, and human beings and that they have a right to make mistakes. Excluding a few core actions that turn it into abuse. People go into marriages having grand expectations, and wanting to "keep up with the Jones." There's no one to compete with, there's no one to fight with it, there's no one to make appearances for. You're married because you want to comfort each other. Everyone makes it so fucking complicated, when the idea is simple and the execution, for the most part, is simple.
Honestly they’re both wrong. Cory is allowed to feel what he feels, but he should learn to support and be happy for Topanga’s successes. Even if at times it feels like he’s always failing. Topanga should have given him space. We can’t all let go of our strong emotions in an instant. Sometimes some people need a couple minutes or hours to relax themselves. She should have respected that, but communicated that once he’s in a better head space they should talk about his issue.
His entire character from the start of their relationship was him supporting her and her successes and her belittling him for his aspirations and shortcomings, the latter played as comedy. He showed spine very few times after they got together but each time he did, they played it as wrong. She's never been respectful of his dreams or goals and even when she undermines him this episode, he still tries to put distance to support her feelings. No, they weren't both wrong. One was.
@@arkoisagoodboy Exactly. Even in this scene, his friends do the same and belittle him, while everyone is on Topanga's side... Until he reveals she called him a loser. Everyone shuts up at that point and lets him say his mind.
I really like how their friends try to help in their argument but get shot down. They are so used to being able to help out but this is between husband and wife. Once you're married your dynamic with your friends changes. The way you fight changes. Loved this last season of Boy Meets World when I was a teenager. I love it even more as a married adult. They got so many things about marriage exactly right.
Though he did imply he was say he was being called a loser, whether or not she implied it or not, she then answered him by calling him a loser because he couldn't play a card game.
That’s the way we men are. Believe it or not, we’re pretty sensitive creatures and all we want is for our mates to respect us and be proud of us and appreciate what we do for them. When we sense that isn’t the case, it hurts. It cuts deep. You don’t always have to say the words verbatim for us to hear what you actually mean. Thus is the case for the “Loser” remark. She may not have said it directly, but it’s what he heard
@@jwebby85we are proud of you and we do respect you but you have to be mature and realize that our success is not your failure. You can’t treat us like trash and expect us to take it. We are sensitive too.
@@hailiniallapanna Topanga was treating Cory like trash here from the beginning after he told her he wasn't in the mood. Cory did insult and project, which was wrong and both should've walked away. But she provoked him initially by following and couldn't respect his request for space. Overall, Cory showed way more restraint and emotional maturity than she did here. What you're saying about a woman's success isn't automatically a man's failure is true. Cory shouldn't have tried to turn their relationship into a competition. However, Topanga could get needlessly condescending, although she can have her supportive moments (at the end of this ep). This condescending attitude can feed into his insecurities, even if she meant well or by accident, and Topanga should be more sensitive. Am I saying Topanga should be walking on eggshells, or it's not Cory's ultimate responsibility to work on his issues? No, Topanga should feel self-confident + ambitious and not become less to placate Cory (which I don't think he expected). I'm saying this episode shows that Topanga needs to be more emotionally supportive toward Cory. That's just being a good partner because being a good partner isn't just challenging to be better, but also supporting and letting your partner have a minute to breathe. Furthermore, even in this ep, she corrects his grammar instinctively, without forethought, although she does regret it but not enough to back off or get his message. So, it's not as if Topanga is celebrating her success in a non-braggy way or feeling self-confident, then Cory felt insecure as a by-product or was trying to undermine her/degrade her accomplishments. Cory is usually very supportive of Topanga. An example is where Topanga shares her pro-feminist view in class, and Cory totally supports her openly. He doesn't ignore it, undermine thru criticism, or play devil's advocate. I can't say the same for Topanga, although again, she does have some moments she can caring toward Cory.
This reminds me of a more tamed version of a marriage story you know the movie with Scarlett Johansson this is like that scene on the movie but less intense just a little bit
That's like an abuser saying leave me alone and you push it and he physically attacks you. That's not a justification. People who assault you physically or verbally regardless of their excuses have shown that their primary instinct is not to protect you or care for you. It's to protect themselves even if it means hurting you.
@@GizmoMaltese what!? XD that is Not the same thing at all. They were Both talking to each other, they were Both saying hurtful things. Corey isn't an abuser just because he said something mean to her.
@@redfordreddington8834 "I don't wanna talk about this a day something I'll regret." What the fuck did I just read lmao. Did you have a stroke? He said "I don't wanna say anything that I'm gonna regret"
@@redfordreddington8834 You're probably one of the many abusers making excuses about how your buttons were pushed or you needed space. Otherwise, I can't understand why you're defending abusive behavior. Do you verbally abuse your kids and then blame it on not getting space? Verbal and physical assault are essentially the same thing. There is no excuse for it. Maybe you're the one who needs help.
naw lol not even. it was childish of Cory to be like that, it's one of several moments when he let's his insecurity affect the way he treats the people around him and that is NEVER okay. you can feel insecure but don't take your frustration out on others and learn how to communicate effectively.
It took Cory saying that she killed his spirit for Topanga to hear him. Cory told her to leave him alone while giving her a little insight to the problem. Topanga wasn’t ready to receive it, which is why she became so defensive and literally used what he said as a weapon against him. This is what made him say the last part, because she confirmed his insecurity, instead of simply acknowledging it. Yes, Cory had an issue with her being better than him at some things. It was her stepping into his space that really sealed his insecurity. Sometimes you need to let a person figure it out.
I think people are not paying attention in how he said it. " topanga if your as smart as your grades or whatever say you are" is that not condescending? To say if your as smart. Might as well say if your as smart as you think you are leave me alone. He didnt say hey babe i need space rn he took a jab at her while saying it which led her to become defensive He started the insults first so she insulted back
@@lelelew2735 I'm not saying that Cory is right, but he asked for space twice. Topanga kept going with that bug up his butt comment. That's why he said the line you mentioned and in that tone. She keeps invading his space and he needs to breathe. Yes that is his wife, but he's asked her to leave him alone and she keeps trying to have a discussion in public, something they have always done but as you get older you realize is not wise. I like this episode because a fight like this was bound to happen sooner or later. After Cory and Topanga got married and received bad housing, it was on Cory, the man, to figure it out and take care of his wife. Cory couldn't be a boy anymore he had to be a man it seems like Topanga was failing to see that in this episode. Sorry this is long, but I had time. I'm also happy they told their friends to back off. If their friends kept butting in they would never grow.
I love this scene. Mostly because I think Ben acted the hell out of this and his inflection is spot on of someone actually in a fight. But also as someone with an unconventional job that often gets dismissed as a side hustle or something that’s just for now, I completely understand him. When you have bad days, you don’t want to hear how it’s okay because it’s just something small. Those bad days are huge to you when you’re in them. And then to get corrected on grammar when your partner is literally telling you that’s a reason they feel insignificant is wildly infuriating and straight poking the bear. I’m not defending what he said, but when someone tells you to leave them alone because they know they’ll say something they regret, don’t go on to push. But I love the way they later resolved everything, even if they had to sit in silence for a while to get there.
While I understand that communication is important there is a time and a place for difficult conversations. Topanga when she asked Corey what was bothering and he told to leave him alone or he'll say something he'll regret, she should have said "Okay, but we need to talk about this when you're ready." If she left it at that they could have a more proper discussion about Corey's feelings instead of becoming a full blown insult match, which Topanga got involved in as much as Corey. Both were in the wrong, Corey letting his insecurity get to him and Topanga being a little insensitive.
Why do women always cape for each other? She called him a loser and an imbecile in front of a whole group of people. "A little insensitive". Let Cory have said this to her and you would've been heeeeeated.
Yeaa that was more than a little insensitive. And given that Corey asked for space and she didnt give it to him, which you pointed out, she was also being either pushy, invasive, or some combination of both.
I beg to differ. From my own experience in a relationship. Bottling up an issue, which is what Cory was doing, only leads to distrust and assumption between two people rather then facing it and resolving it. She clearly doesn't know what's bothering him and her asking him is reaching out to him. It's one thing to hold something away from family and friends, but it should never be an problem talking to your wife or husband about something that's bothering you. I can tell you this, our relationship only got stronger knowing that we can tell each other what we disagree on in order to have an understanding of one another.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
@@jasonlorphotofilms Cory asked her to leave it alone. He said he didn't want to say something he would regret. She kept pushing. There is a time and place. They live together.
@@molasorrosalom4846 I know of at least one episode where their son didn't want to ask Cory for an allowance (Topanga normally gave it to the son) because he knew Cory made significantly less than Topanga. And Cory insisted on being the one to pay him, despite not having enough in his wallet for even that.
Yeah in GMW It was pointed out how Cory made less than Topanga a lot actually but they made him make jokes about it instead of this serious convo ultimately I feel like it meant he made peace with it.
I really think Topanga was in the wrong here. I mean, in a sense they both were wrong, but when Cory was expressing how she was always shoving her perfection in his face and went and corrected him like that. He was expressing a genuine doubt and feeling and she proved him right. In that single instant she proved him right and I think anyone would have lashed out after that. They both said hurtful things, but Corey was pushed, after he had warned her he wanted to be alone to cool off and not say anything he would regret. Because he knew he would regret every word, he consciously knew that whatever he would say in that moment would only hinder his relationship, something he didn't want. But Topanga pushed, went out of her way to prove him right, dismissed his feelings as absurd after proving him right and called him a loser. I think that this clearly is a sign that Topanga was in the wrong, because she had dismissed his feelings from the get go. Women aren't always in the right people. My relationship has proven that to me time and time again.
In many relationships, there's usually one person who's "right" more often than the other, and if you're that person it can be really hard to step back with humility and consider that we might be the one who's wrong sometimes. It was a really valuable lesson for me. It also taught me that if if the other person is likely wrong, just facing the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong tends to alter how you communicate with your partner and make us more open to their point of view. So kudos to you!
Women aren't always right but you can't denie how many decades and even still man do such things to their wife's or girlfriends, bay saying that their carrier's are just like Hobbys or not so important than their jobs, so it was nice to see it other way around.
@@goldi1018 I don't deny it, though I am from Italy and see more men subjecated by women than the contrary 😅Still, women aren't always right. We're humans too and make mistakes just like any man. Its obviously different if you're talking about an abusive or toxic relationship.
She was wrong. Not giving your spouse space, so they think things over on how to approach an issue is disrespectful. If she doesn't respect her spouse then who does she respect. To disrespect him in front of his friends was wrong as well. He is very patient with her, but don't kick men when they are down. He tries his best to provide for her.
That married comment he said to her was real bad. They said a lot of mean things but that one hit different 😣 he basically told her he regrets even marrying her. Yikes might as well not be married then
Just as bad as demeaning everything that Cory was pursuing. She outright told him that she thinks she's better than him and everything he was doing was garbage. No wonder he feels like the life has been sucked out of him.
@@yunglilbill5723 for sure. Accountability is absolutely imperative in a healthy relationship on both sides. Accountability, communication, and loyalty.
Growing up I never really liked Corey and Topanga’s relationship but won’t deny this interaction was really well written, especially how it’s like in real life.
Exactly! That's tough. You're gonna always wonder is that how they really feel for the rest of your life. If somebody actually kills your spirit that's a wrap you don't need to be with them.
Never watched this show regularly (was just a smidge old for the target audience) but have seen clips here and there. Biggest takeaway is that this is one of the most emotionally intense shows perhaps ever? I watched a lot of 90210 and it never hit like this. If memory serves this guy was talking marriage in high school, like regularly. This is a really well-written scene.
Meh. Topanga should’ve given him room, but that doesn’t excuse or justify the things he said. “I might say something I regret” can be applied to saying something like “Your perfectionism is driving me crazy.” Telling her that marrying her killed his spirit … that’s a whole other beast. But I’ve been in a relationship where I was constantly outperforming the guy. It flared his insecurity… so I tried to balance continuing to be my best with hiding it so I don’t get too much praise for it from others in front of it. Needless to say we didn’t last. It sucks for both genders that society looks down on men who don’t achieve as much as their partners.
Lol while I wouldn’t have a problem with a partner who wasn’t achieving as much as me, I have to say I’d have a problem with laziness and lack of ambition. Want to be a house husband/stay at home dad? No problem. Just actually put effort into it and be the best house husband you can be (and don’t be insecure about it) lol.
@@UnAnonKnown true, whatever one does, one can strive to be the best. So whether it's being a housewife or househusband, a lawyer, a doctor, a secretary, a mechanic, a security guard, etc. Take pride in the quality of the work you do.
Like most relationship arguments both added fuel to the fire and it escalated. Corey needed space, Topanga didn't give it. Then she corrected him grammatically when Corey was expressing how much better she was than him. Then they both traded increasingly harsher insults until Corey capped it off with the "you broke my spirit" line. Corey meanwhile, should address his insecurities with Topanga calmly and without making her feel guilty for succeeding. Corey has shown selfish tendencies before, and this is another instance of it. In a relationship you should support your partner and be genuinely happy for their success.
Exactly! He shouldn't have been jealous of her success, but she also should've given him space and she shouldn't have weaponized his insecurity against him in a fight.
Me too. I have a very dangerous temper and I don't mince words. Feelings are hurt and tears are shed if my anger explodes. If I'm angry and I ask for space and you don't give it to me, make peace with your Gods.
One of the 3 pillars that I believe make a successful relationship is communication. Cory expressed himself after being pushed (which sometimes needs to happen) and Topanga should have seen that he was communicating out of frustration and anger and not been so easily offended by it because some of what he said wasn’t true.
….um you can communicate like an adult. CHILDREN can express themselves out of anger and frustration and be forgiven because they don’t know how to regulate or communicate their emotions. But as a fully functioning adult, if you’re yelling stuff like “your big fat mouth” you need to take a breather and walk away cause that is NOT how you talk to someone else. I’m not perfect…I get angry…but I’ve learned to hold my anger, analyze it in my free time and then clearly articulate what is making me upset. I feel like Instead of lashing out, which isn’t healthy, he could’ve just said, I feel like my accomplishments are frequently being overshadowed in our relationship. And I want to celebrate all the things that you do because you are amazing but I feel like I don’t get a chance to feel that way too. And it’s not your fault that you’re being successful and I’m going to work hard so I can feel that way too…but in the meantime it’s frustrating and you’re probably picking up on my frustration. I just need a little space to deal but I’m okay. Especially if I can destress for a bit with my friends. Something like that. Idk.
Lashing out with venom isn't justified simply because you're upset, nor does it give you the right to unload all your bitterness onto your partner simply because you need to "express yourself" then expect them to just shrug it off because you didn't mean it. Words hurt. Especially coming from someone you love. Meanwhile, although Cory and Topanga may have not meant everything they said, there are seeds of truth in their lashing out. Both parties are guilty, and both have a lot to apologize for. Topanga should have given him space when Cory repeatedly warned her he was already upset, but Cory was also remaining in the vicinity instead of fully removing himself from the situation and chose to engage in the altercation. Not only that, but spitting out whatever bitter bile he had built up while still in an angry state of mind is bad. Period. Aggressive expression used to simply hurt your partner so they feel as negatively as you do is an unhealthy form of communication that can severely hurt a relationship. Topanga is equally guilty of instigating the fight further. Neither were willing to "lose". They wanted the last word, to top the other, if they felt bad then dammit so was the other. So it just built up and built up until finally it overflows, and in the end both of them are hurt and nothing has been accomplished. They're also newlyweds, and while they've been a couple for a while, adjusting to a new relationship dynamic can cause a lot of big blow ups. But in the end they both cooled down and talked things out as maturely as they could and came to apologize.
@@brideofcthulhu347 Alot of women like you exhibit signs of being emotionally abusive. Seeing somebody is upset and needling them into a response in public so you can shout them down after they literally say they need space to process their feelings is in fact a sign of abuse. She didn't want communication she wanted to catch him off gaurd so he could not articulate his feelings properly when raw allowing her to shout him down.
This was such an emotionally elevated fight. Mostly due to it being censored for teens. But man. Such powerful words to say someone."You killed my spirit. Congratulations." Something so subtle and gentle yet impactful.
Wow! This scene really got to me. The writers of this show did a great job of showing how much the characters actually reflect and resemble alot of who they are, and where their personalitiew and commonalities come from. In some weird and twisted way, when Cory gets upset he raises his voice to let Topanga know he is being serious. That's exactly how his father (Alan Matthews) gets when he is upset and wants to be heard and understood.
He needed a minute to calm down and bill burr robots. everyone knows topanga is madly loved by Corey the thing is standing next to her in the real world he pales in comparison and because they usually don't compete with each other it never means corey has to be shown up and bruise the ego. Meanwhile topanga always has been perfect and if she's not site other episodes in the future she actually freaks out.
Sean Connery once said. “You see women sometimes will keep going until you give them the last word and then they still keep going after you give him them the last word.” Luckily Cory isn’t Sean Connery.
How amazing their acting was. 🥺 Whenever I watch this scene it always gets to me because it just feels so real & it’s a very good lesson to learn from. That’s what I love most about Boy Meets World because they have so many life lessons that will carry on for generations. I love Cory & Topanga so much. ♥️ My relationship connects so well with theirs, from beginning to end. Amazing show! Going to see Pod Meets World live tomorrow! Can’t wait!!
First off, these folks shouldn’t be hitting in on their argument (although these people do seem to love arguing in front of people in this show) But it sounds like he’s stressed out and somehow is still the jerk in this situation despite him not wanting to argue and say something he’ll regret and then being told “you can’t sell a single magazine!” and then expressing that his spirits were crushed!” And there’s no remorse or apology. Just defensiveness and insults. He’s out of line saying some of the things he did but it’s not like they’ve only been together for a little bit. They’ve been together for a looong time with a decent relationship.
I see both sides. Cori: *having a hard time, feeling insecure, feels undermined by Topanga, doesn’t want to snap at her* Topanga: *just that good, wondering why Cori seems upset, needs communication* I believe in giving people time especially if they more warning you off and I thought the correction when he was telling her how she felt was really demeaning which is why I’d probably side with Cory at first However, the thing he ended up saying to Topanga was really hurtful so I’d wanna comfort her
@@DiegoDiabloNo, both were toxic and they got married too quick. After Corey was told he was rushing into this, too quick and he didn’t listen. He’s also at fault and toxic at time as much as Topanga was. Stop victimising him like he is, the innocent one in the relationship. As also cheated on her multiple time, as he is a dishonest boyfriend to her.
When somebody says “not now” and tells you they don’t want to talk about it right now, believe them. Maybe if she would have given him a chance to calm down, he would have communicated to her what was wrong. But she kept pushing and pushing and he exploded. Now she wants to act like the injured party. That’s what happens when you nag someone to death.
Cant believe so many people are agreeing with Cory here. Of course space is important but communication is too, and Cory was projecting his insecurities onto Topanga who literally gave up going to Yale for him!! He went way too far when the problem was with his own feelings of inadequacy and not her, and as seen in the end of the clip, he himself realised he crossed the line.
Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it. He wanted space so he could communicate later. A lot of people are saying they were both wrong. They are siding with Corey because he didn't want to have that conversation at that moment in that setting. Then when he actually stated his feelings in the wrong way she amplified and then fired back. She was the first domino in this situation.
@@Almightycoasters of course you make a valid point, but Corys behaviour is still not justified in my opinion - yes he’s human and he was upset and angry, however what he said was incredibly hurtful and untrue esp considering how much Topanga sacrificed to be with him and how much he wanted her there. While she should have given him space she was just confused and cared about him. I understand what you’re saying tho.
In a relationship it's not about measuring who gave up more for who. If you're going into marriage with the idea what you made your husband a favor by giving anything up for him, you'll end up either resentful or entitled. She didn't listen to him when he felt hurt and needed to be left alone, she insulted him in public and then acted like she was the hurt one. In marriage you are there to love and support this person, even in their insecurities, especially where they fall short. She was absolutely wrong, and if giving up Harvard for her husband was such a tremendous sacrifice that it grants her the right to insult him in front of their friends or forever hold it against him she shouldn't have done it in the first place. For his sake and her's she should've gone to Harvard and left him alone. A marriage where you're measuring to see who does or did more ( be it in things like these, in work, in chores, with the kids) than the other or who lost more to be with the other is not only never going to work, but it's going to cause the two people huge amounts of pain until it falls apart
@@j.r.r5863 I think you’ve misunderstood what I meant, sacrifices and compromises are indisputably part of a serious relationship, however i never said it gives her the RIGHT i’m saying it undermines Corys accusation that SHE broke his spirit as he did not want her to go to Yale because he wants to be near her. Also, if we are talking about insulting the other in front of friends it was Cory that was first and far more disrespectful than her by resorting to insults, so i think your argument it flawed because it is devolving into a different issue entirely.
This reminds me of my ex wife, she would harp on the same conversation or topic and not give me space or let me breathe. It was rough bc it was during covid lockdown and I couldn’t have space. It’s rough when you go through something like this. But it teaches you a lot, maybe if we gave each other space things could have worked out better and communication wouldn’t have broken down.
Line stepping..!! We all do it, even though they have been together for years they were not married for years. As we grow with lid experiences our relationships grow as well. When Cory said to back off she should have listened..instant regret from both parties.
When someone is angry with me and says to me “ please leave me alone before I say something I’m going to regret”..... that’s EXACTLY what I want and probably need to hear so I don’t back off. What that means is that person is angry enough that the filter will not block them from telling me the truth about how they really feel. Yes it may either damage or cost us the relationship, but I’m better off knowing the truth. How many times do people blow up in a fight and say the worst shit to someone and then later on they say I really didn’t mean that. The fact is, yes you did. It’s just that the anger finally gave you the balls to say what you really wanted to say. When we are angry, when we are drunk, when we are vulnerable, we are the most honest. Why do we tell somebody how much we can’t stand them when we are angry. Why do we call our ex when we are drunk? Because the filter is gone in both of those cases. The filter often blocks the truth. Before it goes from our brain to our mouth, the filter makes us think if we really want to say it and what the consequences are but we’re not concerned with consequences when we are angry or drunk. So whatever she said to him and whatever he said to her right here was honesty.
Leaving someone alone after them telling you to is respecting a boundary. Honest emotions and issues can be communicated differently and both parties can be more receptive to one another while in a neutral, calm state. Though they both said their truths in an angry, more aggressive manner.. some things can be forgiven, but never forgotten.
Ladies just a word to the wise, when your man says to give him some time it’s because he wants to talk about something but literally “doesn’t want to say something he regrets” that’s legit gotta let the anger go away before you can be constructive.
@@arctic_adrenaline Corey expressed that he wanted to talk but at the current time was too angry, topanga pushed him instead of having some patience, she was in the wrong, and had to have the last word no matter how much it hurt Corey. Like it or not this scene is meant to show women that you should know when to realize a man needs to be given a moment the same way you would. This isn’t projection this is the reality of what the scene is depicting I’ve seen many many women do this exact thing and then play victim be responsible for yourself. Corey was responsible enough to know it was not a good time for him to have that conversation, but topanga wanted to have it and she got what she asked for and was warned before she got it. Respect your man especially when he tells you he’s angry it means he cares about what’s going on around him and he has an opinion about it. Fuck outta here with that projection bullshit Corey and topanga’s relationship is incredibly true to what a real relationship goes thru and how it effects both parties if you took what I said as an insult or a projection that’s a you problem 👌🏻
@@ranip7644 yes but some poeple to be alone with their thoughts so they can clear their head first , so when they talk to their spouse they are rational and don't say emotionally charged comments they regret later. and cory told her to leave him alone so he wouldn't do just that. & considering how their friends were acting in the fight signifies they know she's the one in the wrong.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
I'm a woman and I was on Cory's side. Sometimes you need time on your own to process everything and just take a breath and think thorough their problem
The way they both spoke to each other was to listen to respond, not listen to understand. This is far more common when you’re young, in your 20’s & something you either learn to facilitate as you get older so you have the emotional intelligence to resolve things with a partner or you do what these two do in this argument, push each others buttons, not hear one another, cause a lot of disconnect in the moment. Corey could of 100% said, “Topanga I love you. However, when you keep correcting me it feels like you don’t trust I can be as competent as you are. It makes me feel small and less than on some level. I know you mean well, it’s coming from a good place, but you have to let me figure things out on my own, make mistakes, and learn from them. I can’t be the person you need me to be if you’re always stepping in to rescue me every chance you get. Again, I love you, but you gotta let me learn to fail.“
I don't think I've ever watched this since being in relationships and you can say what you want about Boy Meets World being childish, but sometimes they nail it and they do here. When you're at wits end, sometimes this is how it comes out, and I love that its from both of them because thats so true to real life. Honestly, I'm sad the show didn't develop more into this cause its incredibly interesting and I feel not properly explored. Lots of stuff is either too happy unrealistic or too sad maybe more realistic but almost too real. This rides a fine line and could teach a nice lesson.
As a married woman, I can tell you these are the type of explosive fights you have in the earlier stages of marriage. We wouldn’t have this fight publicly as Topanga and Corey did, but marriage ain’t always roses and sunshine. To have a successful marriage you learn and absorb things about your spouse and hopefully don’t make the same mistakes down the road. Marriage is also about acceptance, which means you accept everything about them (not abuse) for who they are. If you can’t do that, then marriage may not be for you. It’s also about forgiveness because you’re going to have arguments and disagreements because you’re two human beings learning how to be apart of each others space. You’re going to say things in the heat of the moment, but you can always be an adult and apologize and vice versa. Corey and Topanga were very young when they got married so I’m sure a lot of their growth and maturity will come from their marriage.
This is why I always try to make sure that my husband feels validated when he needs it but give him space at his request. Communication is key with any relationship, especially marriage. It’s a little awkward sometimes when you’re autistic and trying to read the situation but that’s why you talk to each other and understand when to push forward and when to back down. And hey, somehow he’s still wanting to be with me after over a decade so I must be doing something right.
Hell yeah you are. You sound like the perfect wife. We've been together for 2 years and next year when we hit our 3 year mark he's going to propose. I can't wait to marry him and I hope our love lasts forever.
Entire scene is ruined by seeing the prices on the coffee board at about 20 seconds in. Gourmet coffee then $.075, gourmet coffee now, $1.99. Gas then $1.00 per gallon, gas now $4.50 per gallon. Federal minimum wage then $5.15, now $7.25. notice how prices for goods raised a lot more than the minimum wage...
I feel like if you haven’t had a serious disagreement with someone while you’re dating you probably shouldn’t get married until you’ve seen how they handle a disagreement. Because I promise you, you will disagree on something eventually . I’m not saying be a jerk and try to deliberately fight with the person, but you should be bringing up tough subjects that could end up sparking a disagreement . If they turn it into a fight, you’re gonna have to learn how to work through things together, so this doesn’t happen because years and years and years of this kind of fighting will destroy your marriage. If you can’t learn how to work out something and speak maturely about it without resorting to the tactics in this clip , you remain very immature. Both my husband and I did this for a long time . Then I wise up, but my husband didn’t and for a decade I tried and tried and tried to get us to try to discuss this agreements more maturely. We were fighting even over the most ridiculous things now that look back. I finally had it this fall/winter . I basically sat down this past week after our last fight again and told him I was sorry for and what I wanted to see and how our marriage cannot continue as it is. I asked him to rebuild it with me to lay aside the individuals so we could work as a team, and as a we…. I asked him if he was ready to jump in 100% or was he out? I had already laid out what wasn’t acceptable anymore . Luckily, he was in . And now, instead of watching TV and ignoring each other on our phones, we are taking each evening to layout how we can rebuild our marriage, and set a new foundation with new rules and new ways to approach everything . I really think these things need to be brought up before marriage. It’s sad that it took us 17 years to figure this crap out. I hope if we figure this out that maybe we can find a way to help others with what we’ve learned
everyone saying how Topanga was wrong here and Corey was more right but i don't see that at all. Maybe if they weren't married, or if they hadn't been together so long cory would be right. But they're married here. Its fine to need space, yes, but its pretty clear that Topanga here is worried about whats wrong - that causes anxiety and of course she would pursue him saying "i dont like that you cant talk to me about this" because in marriage youre supposed to be a unit and discuss things. Sure Corey doesnt seem ready to discuss at that moment, but he could at least give her some reassurance or a little bit of anything really. You can't just say "i dont want to say something I'll regret" because saying that just causes the other person to think "oh, so they're thinking really bad things about me now. Why? What happened? What did i do?" And if its in marriage, of COURSE thatd just prompt more questions and curiosity. "Youre better at pookie-pook than me too" "topanga, if you were as smart as your ace streak says you are, you would know to leave me alone right now" he says these things to his wife whilst telling her to drop it and walk away, because he doesnt want to start anything, but hes already started it with those comments and hes making it her job to be the bigger person in the moment and leave even saying "You leave I win" at the end when she finally leaves. Its fine to need and ask for space. But if you are asking or needing space, you shouldn't be so passive aggressive about it, avoiding explaining anything at all whilst simultaneously implying that its the other persons fault that youre acting like this. I just feel hes being kind of childish in the way he is expressing himself and handling his emotions. Which is fine, because everyone has those moments and being married is about sticking through it and working it out. I just disagree with everyone saying that topanga is the one in the wrong here. Sure, you can say she isn't owed anything reasoning or explanation for why he wants space, which is valid, but you can't tell me that cory isn't already being passive aggressive before he even asks for space. He walks away after making a comment like "youre better than me at that too" in a tone that is obviously meant to be snarky and not in the nice playful way. Then he asks for space, after already poking at topanga and implying that shes the problem. Thats not fair to her for him to start something, for a reason that she doesnt know yet, and then walk away and tell her she needs to leave him alone and give him space, whilst implying shes the issue, but not telling her what the issue he has with her is, just saying he doesnt want to say something he'll regret. I feel like he never would have had a conversation with her about how hes feeling and what bothers him if she hadn't pushed here. Because he was implying he'd regret talking about how some of her actions make him feel, which he ends up regretting, but not because of the reasoning of the conversation, but because of the way he went about the conversation. a simple "hey, im sorry, i need some time to myself right now to figure out what exactly im feeling before I discuss it with you, can you give me some space for now?" Or "hey, im not exactly sure what's sparking these emotions right now, could you maybe give me some space to figure it out?" Or "im not ready to discuss this yet, I promise ill talk to you once ive got it figured out, you dont need to worry about it" Or "sorry, could we discuss this later? i dont think I'm ready for this at the moment" any of those or other things he couldve said - but mainly its just the tone he uses and the little jabs he throws while asking for space that are the problem. Honestly he seems more to imply here that he doesnt want to talk with her about any of this like ever. Which is the wrong attitude to have. hes shutting her out here he really only implies to her that they dont need to talk about it because he'll regret it. Even if that discussion is definitely necessary in their relationship going forward because otherwise those feelings he had would just grow and grow and fester with him growing to just become annoyed with her, whilst she remains anxious and curious about whats happening with him and not being able to ask or anything because he would push her away saying he would regret talking. idk just my thoughts. i think they both are kinda wrong here but topanga is DEFINITELY not any more in the wrong than corey. But this fight really isnt that big of a deal anyways, it just could have been handled much better
This! All of this! Even if i dont want to talk about something i tell my husband anyways.. Its better to get it out of the way.. Rip it off like a band-aid. Especially if its about him.. In this scenario coreys problem was with topanga so he should've let her know she was the problem.. Its better to let it all out.. Because whose to say he wouldn't have blown up on her at a random time later? Whose to say " giving him space would have even helped him not to say anything he'd regret". Hell whose to say he would've told her at all🤷♀️
I’ve been in the same situation with my husband and I need the space to register my emotions properly. Even married YOU as the other spouse can’t decide if the other is ready to talk. I found that most times I tried to finish an argument without some space I completely shut down or end up saying I regret. Which way is better? Taking some time apart to have a productive conversation or what just happened?
Back before ppl were labeled toxic for getting into an argument (note: I’m not saying there aren’t relationships that are toxic, just that we now tend to withdraw from confrontations like this a lot more)
@@melodyclark1944 it means he didn't want to talk to her at all about it at that moment, let alone in public despite her insistence that they hash it out in front of the whole world
This is deep. The thing is with BOTH of them. In a relationship it’s need communication and they didn’t know it. How do I know? I’ve been married for 12 years. I am 30 now and oh boy there were days like this, the thing was my husband didn’t say anything he kept everything in and I would get upset because he is a man and they don’t normally say anything until arguments like this. A lot of miscommunication on how I felt and how I worded things same with my husband. Well 10 years into the relationship we finally understand that we needed to communicate with each other, tell each other how we are feeling and work it out. We forgive each other and grew out of our big heads and to this day we have small arguments here and there and never this big and we are happier. But people COMMUNICATION is key. You BOTH have to be able to get the stick out of your ass and admitted to doing and saying wrong too.
First of all, I'm loving these throwback BMW clips. I honestly don't think Corey is in the wrong in this particular clip. Was he wrong in general? Yes, he needed to be more supportive of Topanga. HOWEVER, in this clip he said very clearly that he wasn't in the mood and didn't want to talk about it because he didn't want to say something that he would regret and Topanga kept pushing him and pushing him and got her feelings hurt. Should he control himself, yes. But he didn't lash out of nowhere.
@@OceanbornAngel Corey was never jealous of Topanga until she called him a loser. So the lesson we should be learning is, don't look down on your spouse and insult them to practical strangers.
went from "want to have sex" to worst fight a marriage can possibly have in less than 3 minutes.
I have to agree with him, how can she care about proper grammar while they're having a fight? Like, that would be the last thing on my mind as long as our feelings are fully communicated. Also, when she says "You can't even play Solitaire, imbecile!" and when he says "I used to be able to do alot of things before I married you!", I always say "Ouch!" Lol 😆
That part😳😬
That's EXACTLY how it be sometimes. 🤣
@Don K I stopped watching the show long before they got married but seeing this clip is like the most realistic start and end to a heated argument between a newly wed could ever.
@donk8105 - I love listening to my neighbors fight! I swear, it’s better than Netflix! My new neighbor, who just moved in across from me, loves it too! She always calls me when there is a fight going on! We’ve actually had to call the police twice already on a couple different occasions due to things getting a bit too out of hand.
I like how they made this scene so realistic on the way that it starts out with lots of people (not just the their friends) in the area and then in the end it’s emptied out with only their friends left because of the awkwardness that their fight brings out.
Yeah, so "realistic" people LEAVING when two people are arguing 🙄
@@Hotobu believe it or not people use to mind they're own business instead of taking out a phone to record lol
@@CodenameEnVoR "Back in my day 'pEoPlE uSed To'" no the fuck they didn't. If there's an argument or a fight people stand around and watch, they don't leave. Take off your rose-colored glasses, and stop lying about a glorified past so you can feel warm and cozy about a RUclips clip.
@@CodenameEnVoR exactly!!
@@CodenameEnVoR I'd at least be in the next room listening or something. I love free entertainment.
This is SO well written and how communication falls apart. To be fair, Corey was extremely emotionally intelligent and ASKED for space and to be left alone TWICE. She kept pushing and pushing and thats when people explode.
When men say they need space, THATS when you STOP
Whatttt????? Yeah he definitely needs space but him getting upset out of jealousy to begin with was the total opposite of emotional maturity. He was being egotistical and sensitive. He should recognize she did her best but he couldn’t see past his own ego.
@@heidifierro5768
I think you missed the real issue. He wasn't simply jealous of Topanga, he was upset that she often throws her knowledge, skills and accomplishments in his face.
This is a trait Topanga has had since the show first started. She often belittled Cory and Shawn for their lack of knowledge and often corrected them like she was their teacher.
If you noticed, even during an argument she couldn't help herself but to correct Cory's grammar from "good" to "well". She unfortunately flexes how naturally gifted she is in toxic ways.
While this may have been a little annoying when they were kids, it's likely downright emasculating now that they're married. Notice she says things like "LITTLE project" or "STUPID magazine" even though these are things Cory explained that he's passionate about.
Cory can be very whiny, but he was asking for space to sort this thoughts. Topanga didn't respect that, like she unfortunately doesn't respect a lot of what Cory does. It's subconscious on her part, but her behavior shows that she doesn't respect Cory as a man all that much. That was Cory's real issue.
I've noticed that many people who are saying Cory was completely wrong are women. Which makes me believe that a good amount of women could be doing what Topanga does, and can't see how it effects their men. Instead flipping it as though their men are "jealous" of them or "insecure", while being oblivious to the real issue at hand. And unfortunately I know a lot of men are bottling it up, just like Cory was trying to do in this clip. Which is a little scary
When people need space, it's a good thing but sometimes they need to blow up like this to get all the emotions out. Now they know what the problem is and they can work together on it.
@@Emperoress I agree, but they could've had this conversation when he was calm and had time to think. A more emotionally vulnerable and genuine conversation without all of the rubble (insults, yelling, demeaning) in the way. The comment above yours by K' the Barbarian goes into the meaning of it all very well.
I also know it's better to give someone space when they ask because I personally have had this issue. It's hard not to say things you don't mean to people you care about when pressured, but people do so anyway for what often feels like their own convenience. It's better to give the person space as they asked. It's healthier and shows you have more respect for them than a curiosity for drama.
He mustered the stability to warn her, which can oftentimes be difficult to do during those moments, and she pressured him anyway. She reaped what she sewed. Yes, the emotions were shared, but in an unhealthy and hurtful way rather than calmly and in a loving mindset and environment between the two. Now that they'll have time to cool down, they'll be able to reconcile and do the latter. :)
This is why I love Boy Meets World. The show basically talks about how to handle life. In this case in marriage, it should be a team. When you come together in marriage, it shouldn’t be competition. It’s supposed to be two people coming together as one; at least it’s supposed to be anyway. It shouldn’t matter if your spouse is better at something than the other. They supposed to balance each other out. You’re supposed to be encourage each other and bring out the best in one another.
you have a good mindset
@@leelaandrus2180 Thanks Leela! That means a lot! I would encourage my wife to be the best she could be whenever I get married. It takes two to tango, and two to make it work😊👊🏾🎸
Facts
That's kind of the reason why I never got married. Me and my partner both felt that once you're married your mentality suddenly changes unexpectedly. I guess that could have also had something to do with the fact that we both had parents who regularly argued over all sorts of silly little things.
@@jacobmassey3897 I feel you on that. I’m not married either. I’m used to being single, that I don’t know if I’ll ever meet anyone. I’m used to doing things on my own, that I don’t know if it will ever happen. I’m used to rejection to the point I’ve become numb. I don’t feel anything anymore.
“You leave I win!” Yea, I’ve had that feeling. Then 5 seconds later you realize you really lost lol
#true
He realized that as well lol
Just didn't hit the landing right
When you blow up like this you both lose
Pyrrhic victory in every sense
Beautiful and relatable scene. Both are in the wrong. Cory's built up resentment and insecurity got the best of him. Topanga's lack of respect and awareness got the best of her. I loved this show growing up, loved the writing.
Except it didn’t get the better of him? He asked her for some space and she kept pushing, that’s why it got the better of him, otherwise he might’ve been able to work through it.
@@nemofish3504No, he would have just kept suppressing it. She was pushing because she was sick of it and something had to give. The truth _should_ come out, not be left to fester.
@@nemofish3504I agree. When someone asks you, especially twice just to leave them alone, give them their space. Give them time to work through whatever is going on in their head.
@@highfaeshe could have done that in private. That's how those things are supposed to be handled.
@@highfae just because the truth doesn't 'come out', doesn't mean it festers. Alot of men just need time and space (which he asked for, twice). There's tons of arguments that were spared in my relationships because I had time and space to work/sort things out on my own.
Topanga is so smart in a lot of ways, but she isn’t very bright. She minimized his goal by calling it “a little magazine project,” which shows some kind of judgment. Ben is also way out of line; her success is not his failure. And the worst part of this is they aired the grievances in front of people, which is a complete lack of respect. Bad job all around. But this scene is very human.
He asked for space. She kept poking. I hatevwhen someone violates me asking for space. Like okay, let's go then! Lol
It is human….these are the exact fights people have behind closed doors unless they have done the work in therapy and even then it happens with high stress and emotions.
Ben?
@@jeanettelori1439 sorry - Cory. The actor’s name is Ben.
And he has a fragile man ego. Typical.
Corey needed space and told topanga as much. But she didn’t listen and he lashed out.
She was wrong for not giving him space. Thus Corey said something he didn’t mean in anger, like most people do, and immediately regretted it.
Glad they showed them after this sitting down and talking about it.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
@@WillsonT011 yes It was. I agree. Which is why I’m glad they talked it out and figured out the issue.
Cory meant everything he said, but he lacked tact in how he said it. Some things shouldn't be said, no matter how provoked you are into saying it. Though he did warn Topanga beforehand. She goaded him into saying what he did. Not saying he was right, but neither was she.
@@WillsonT011 True but if she didn't push him he could have worded it at a less stressful time for him so it wouldn't come out angrily like it did
@@rohunsaigal2576 ur gonna have fights like this, it can’t be avoided. They talked it out and got their emotions out as well.
This show and the character dynamics were so good, little dated perhaps, but good. This is a really messy convo, where both of them say hurtful things that they don’t mean to say, but have a morsel of truth in them. The result is that both of them justifiably look like victim and aggressor at once. That’s a super realistic depiction of what relationship fights boil down to. It would have been way too easy for them to just have Corey blow up with Topanga purely the voice of reason. Instead, she says and does things that you can see are boxing him in, and then says he can’t do it, which she immediately regrets, as he understandably blows up.
Fax
Dates? This was from more than TWENTY YEARS ago. lol
This show sucks bro lmfaoo
@@TheDjMoogle or...OR....sounds like your life sucks more so you're taking it out on a show that you don't even care about 😂
Do you know what season and episode this is? Also I 100% agree with you
Topanga pushed too hard. When someone says "not right now," heed it.
She also called her husband a loser. That 100% puts her in the wrong.
@@kyleellis1825 she pushed when he asked her to stop before it got worse . She didnt give a shit about his boundary or feelings. She messed up
I think people in the comments are missing the point of this argument. This isn’t Cory being jealous of Topanga. This is Cory feeling inadequate next to her. He knows he is being unreasonable which is why he tries to avoid the argument altogether at first. He points out how Topanga excels at everything she does while he struggles and instead of picking up that he needs validation and support from her in that moment she feels attacked and instead argues back which is what sets Cory off. Cory knew he was being unreasonable and instantly regretted everything he said as soon as she left knowing that everything was about his own self-esteem and not actually anything Topanga had done. I don’t think either were entirely in the wrong or in the right here. People aren’t perfect and don’t always have a calm and open discussion about their feelings. Sometimes people get angry and lash out at loved ones, especially when they don’t understand what they are feeling themselves.
It's nice to know someone gets the message.
Well said. Perfectly executed.
Thank youu!! It's exactly that, corey was feeling not good enough in some way and topanga never meant to belittle him or shove it in his face she was really just trying to help. And thing is even irl most days you'd feel happy and be supportive of your partner if they're exceptional at what they do but then somedays when you don't feel that good about yourself, their success seems just like another thing proving that your loser. Neither of them is right or wrong, they just each have a different pov and understanding (or misunderstanding) of what the other meant.
They were both being unreasonable and making personal attacks, and for some reason (???) Topanga decided it was a good idea to have this fight in public and Cori went along with that. Which was...not a good choice lol. You can't be vulnerable and honest with your partner when there's an audience like that. "I feel insecure compared to your accomplishments" and "I brag about my accomplishments because I'm also insecure" are difficult enough to say to your best friend, let alone a room full of people.
@@MySchoolProject15he wasnt given a choice. He obviously didn't want to argue with others around. He said as much, but she kept pushing him
"YOU KILLED MY SPIRIT!" I felt that so much
Been there
@@Pinkranger87 same
So have I.
same...it hurts
I feel for Cory on this one. I remember this episode. “You killed my spirit” should be a T-shirt.
When you’re married young, this is so real. Me and my husband married pretty young for our generation (23 and 24) and I have always loved this show, but got my husband into watching it too. We watched this episode together and said “WOW we’ve had fights exactly like this!” And we overcame it the same way they later did, sitting down and talking it out after breathing for a while. Marriage is hard work, but nearly 5 years on it’s the best decision I’ve ever made and I love it not all day every day, but every single day I’m glad I married the right person.
Same with me and my husband. We been together for almost 12 years. This what it's like.
My cousin and his wife got married at 22 and they've had fights where they contiplated divorce and both admitted that they think it was a mistake getting married young but 22 years of marriage they're still going strong. Marriage isn't easy, but like my cousin says he wouldn't change a thing. Because he couldn't picture his life without his wife in it
My husband and I married young (he turned 21 on our honeymoon). That being said we never fight like this but we are both great communicators. We also work to always build eachother up and never tell the other an idea is bad but always work together to make it better. Married 16 years now and it just keeps getting better. Marriage is easy with the right person.
Marriage is only hard if you make it hard. When you're young, you hold onto your egos and fight to no end. Marriage is just hanging out with your best friend, and being mature enough to understand that you married a human being, and human beings and that they have a right to make mistakes. Excluding a few core actions that turn it into abuse.
People go into marriages having grand expectations, and wanting to "keep up with the Jones." There's no one to compete with, there's no one to fight with it, there's no one to make appearances for. You're married because you want to comfort each other.
Everyone makes it so fucking complicated, when the idea is simple and the execution, for the most part, is simple.
Marriage is hard work if you dont know how to keep your mouth shut, or leave your husband alone when he's asking you to
Honestly they’re both wrong. Cory is allowed to feel what he feels, but he should learn to support and be happy for Topanga’s successes. Even if at times it feels like he’s always failing.
Topanga should have given him space. We can’t all let go of our strong emotions in an instant. Sometimes some people need a couple minutes or hours to relax themselves. She should have respected that, but communicated that once he’s in a better head space they should talk about his issue.
Yes
Corey is normally super supportive of her accomplishments. He just heard Topanga call him a loser. She's 100% in the wrong here.
Corey was always very supportive of Jeremy actually. Topanga was the more selfish one in general
His entire character from the start of their relationship was him supporting her and her successes and her belittling him for his aspirations and shortcomings, the latter played as comedy. He showed spine very few times after they got together but each time he did, they played it as wrong. She's never been respectful of his dreams or goals and even when she undermines him this episode, he still tries to put distance to support her feelings. No, they weren't both wrong. One was.
@@arkoisagoodboy Exactly. Even in this scene, his friends do the same and belittle him, while everyone is on Topanga's side... Until he reveals she called him a loser. Everyone shuts up at that point and lets him say his mind.
I really like how their friends try to help in their argument but get shot down. They are so used to being able to help out but this is between husband and wife. Once you're married your dynamic with your friends changes. The way you fight changes. Loved this last season of Boy Meets World when I was a teenager. I love it even more as a married adult. They got so many things about marriage exactly right.
I wish they had this caliber of show still
@@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor modern family
@@LariB12 modern family is awful 😂
@@NamelessViking01 wtf? You watched it wrong
Lol yet another reason to never marry
The acting in Boy Meets World was always Top Tier !!!
Especially for a 90s sitcom
Especially for the corny writing
When he says she called him a loser it’s crazy because she “didn’t” but that’s how he feels and she’s ignoring that. Argument is so well done.
Though he did imply he was say he was being called a loser, whether or not she implied it or not, she then answered him by calling him a loser because he couldn't play a card game.
That’s the way we men are. Believe it or not, we’re pretty sensitive creatures and all we want is for our mates to respect us and be proud of us and appreciate what we do for them. When we sense that isn’t the case, it hurts. It cuts deep. You don’t always have to say the words verbatim for us to hear what you actually mean. Thus is the case for the “Loser” remark. She may not have said it directly, but it’s what he heard
@@jwebby85we are proud of you and we do respect you but you have to be mature and realize that our success is not your failure. You can’t treat us like trash and expect us to take it. We are sensitive too.
@@hailiniallapanna Topanga was treating Cory like trash here from the beginning after he told her he wasn't in the mood. Cory did insult and project, which was wrong and both should've walked away. But she provoked him initially by following and couldn't respect his request for space. Overall, Cory showed way more restraint and emotional maturity than she did here. What you're saying about a woman's success isn't automatically a man's failure is true. Cory shouldn't have tried to turn their relationship into a competition. However, Topanga could get needlessly condescending, although she can have her supportive moments (at the end of this ep). This condescending attitude can feed into his insecurities, even if she meant well or by accident, and Topanga should be more sensitive. Am I saying Topanga should be walking on eggshells, or it's not Cory's ultimate responsibility to work on his issues? No, Topanga should feel self-confident + ambitious and not become less to placate Cory (which I don't think he expected). I'm saying this episode shows that Topanga needs to be more emotionally supportive toward Cory. That's just being a good partner because being a good partner isn't just challenging to be better, but also supporting and letting your partner have a minute to breathe. Furthermore, even in this ep, she corrects his grammar instinctively, without forethought, although she does regret it but not enough to back off or get his message. So, it's not as if Topanga is celebrating her success in a non-braggy way or feeling self-confident, then Cory felt insecure as a by-product or was trying to undermine her/degrade her accomplishments. Cory is usually very supportive of Topanga. An example is where Topanga shares her pro-feminist view in class, and Cory totally supports her openly. He doesn't ignore it, undermine thru criticism, or play devil's advocate. I can't say the same for Topanga, although again, she does have some moments she can caring toward Cory.
@@laurendixon278 Which she provokes and exacerbates further with being condescending.
Watching this fight as a married person hits different.
Try watching it divorced.
This reminds me of a more tamed version of a marriage story you know the movie with Scarlett Johansson this is like that scene on the movie but less intense just a little bit
@@LalienXI’m good.
So sorry man @LalienX
He said, "I don't wanna talk about this a day something I'll regret."
She then pushes, and gets mad when he does exactly that.
That's like an abuser saying leave me alone and you push it and he physically attacks you. That's not a justification. People who assault you physically or verbally regardless of their excuses have shown that their primary instinct is not to protect you or care for you. It's to protect themselves even if it means hurting you.
@@GizmoMaltese what!? XD that is Not the same thing at all. They were Both talking to each other, they were Both saying hurtful things. Corey isn't an abuser just because he said something mean to her.
@@GizmoMaltese get help
@@redfordreddington8834 "I don't wanna talk about this a day something I'll regret." What the fuck did I just read lmao. Did you have a stroke? He said "I don't wanna say anything that I'm gonna regret"
@@redfordreddington8834 You're probably one of the many abusers making excuses about how your buttons were pushed or you needed space. Otherwise, I can't understand why you're defending abusive behavior. Do you verbally abuse your kids and then blame it on not getting space? Verbal and physical assault are essentially the same thing. There is no excuse for it. Maybe you're the one who needs help.
"No, no... I want to see Topanga make Cory cry" 😂
He is a fool for saying that but it'll always be funny
Terrible brother hilarious person 😂
yeah that was stupid of Eric, funny guy, idiot brother
The way they show Corey all alone and by himself at the end speaks VOLUMES!
This is a hard thing to witness, but there's a whole season if things going on here.
Twas beautifully done and gives us so many lessons.
Corny
DANG when you watch a childhood show as an adult and it HITS differently! 🙌🏽
Topanga was in the wrong. Dude tried to be nice as he possibly can, his confidence is obviously shot. But she kept pushing until he snapped.
naw lol not even. it was childish of Cory to be like that, it's one of several moments when he let's his insecurity affect the way he treats the people around him and that is NEVER okay. you can feel insecure but don't take your frustration out on others and learn how to communicate effectively.
Cory is always a cry baby
That was not her fault. His insecurities is his issue. Men always try to blame women for their short comings. Smh
They were both in the wrong in their own way. Also, there is a time and place for everything. This wasn't it
@@GabrielaCenturionNeumann Thank you for being rational.
It took Cory saying that she killed his spirit for Topanga to hear him. Cory told her to leave him alone while giving her a little insight to the problem. Topanga wasn’t ready to receive it, which is why she became so defensive and literally used what he said as a weapon against him. This is what made him say the last part, because she confirmed his insecurity, instead of simply acknowledging it.
Yes, Cory had an issue with her being better than him at some things. It was her stepping into his space that really sealed his insecurity. Sometimes you need to let a person figure it out.
he probably mad at her or she mad at him
Yes. This is a really great comment and feedback. Very insightful. Thanks for sharing. God bless.
So well written! 👏👏👏
I think people are not paying attention in how he said it. " topanga if your as smart as your grades or whatever say you are" is that not condescending? To say if your as smart. Might as well say if your as smart as you think you are leave me alone. He didnt say hey babe i need space rn he took a jab at her while saying it which led her to become defensive
He started the insults first so she insulted back
@@lelelew2735 I'm not saying that Cory is right, but he asked for space twice. Topanga kept going with that bug up his butt comment. That's why he said the line you mentioned and in that tone. She keeps invading his space and he needs to breathe. Yes that is his wife, but he's asked her to leave him alone and she keeps trying to have a discussion in public, something they have always done but as you get older you realize is not wise.
I like this episode because a fight like this was bound to happen sooner or later. After Cory and Topanga got married and received bad housing, it was on Cory, the man, to figure it out and take care of his wife. Cory couldn't be a boy anymore he had to be a man it seems like Topanga was failing to see that in this episode.
Sorry this is long, but I had time. I'm also happy they told their friends to back off. If their friends kept butting in they would never grow.
I love this scene. Mostly because I think Ben acted the hell out of this and his inflection is spot on of someone actually in a fight. But also as someone with an unconventional job that often gets dismissed as a side hustle or something that’s just for now, I completely understand him. When you have bad days, you don’t want to hear how it’s okay because it’s just something small. Those bad days are huge to you when you’re in them. And then to get corrected on grammar when your partner is literally telling you that’s a reason they feel insignificant is wildly infuriating and straight poking the bear. I’m not defending what he said, but when someone tells you to leave them alone because they know they’ll say something they regret, don’t go on to push. But I love the way they later resolved everything, even if they had to sit in silence for a while to get there.
While I understand that communication is important there is a time and a place for difficult conversations. Topanga when she asked Corey what was bothering and he told to leave him alone or he'll say something he'll regret, she should have said "Okay, but we need to talk about this when you're ready." If she left it at that they could have a more proper discussion about Corey's feelings instead of becoming a full blown insult match, which Topanga got involved in as much as Corey. Both were in the wrong, Corey letting his insecurity get to him and Topanga being a little insensitive.
Why do women always cape for each other?
She called him a loser and an imbecile in front of a whole group of people. "A little insensitive".
Let Cory have said this to her and you would've been heeeeeated.
@@MarauderM00gi I can't tell who isn't married
Yeaa that was more than a little insensitive. And given that Corey asked for space and she didnt give it to him, which you pointed out, she was also being either pushy, invasive, or some combination of both.
@@MarauderM00gi It’s wrong both ways…
Yeah that last insult was a booger bear
Cory had every right to be mad he clearly told Topanga to leave him alone but she just made things worse
true
I beg to differ. From my own experience in a relationship. Bottling up an issue, which is what Cory was doing, only leads to distrust and assumption between two people rather then facing it and resolving it. She clearly doesn't know what's bothering him and her asking him is reaching out to him. It's one thing to hold something away from family and friends, but it should never be an problem talking to your wife or husband about something that's bothering you. I can tell you this, our relationship only got stronger knowing that we can tell each other what we disagree on in order to have an understanding of one another.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
Or maybe Corey should have gotten himself. Just another egotistical male that's mad that his wife is better than him.
@@jasonlorphotofilms Cory asked her to leave it alone. He said he didn't want to say something he would regret. She kept pushing. There is a time and place. They live together.
“You leave, I win!” Married folk wrote this script I just know it… but you don’t have to be married to know that means you both lose.
I miss this show so much, I liked that we got to see them through so much of their life.
Damn I felt that fight in my backbone, they weren't just amazing actors, the dialogue was so spot on too
The fact that they can so casually talk about pooky pook in front of their friends tho 🤣
And call it that!
I love the fact that they didn't just gloss over this issue and even kept it going in Girl Meets World, even if it was on a less serious note.
What did she do in "Girl Meets World?"
@@molasorrosalom4846 I know of at least one episode where their son didn't want to ask Cory for an allowance (Topanga normally gave it to the son) because he knew Cory made significantly less than Topanga. And Cory insisted on being the one to pay him, despite not having enough in his wallet for even that.
Yeah in GMW It was pointed out how Cory made less than Topanga a lot actually but they made him make jokes about it instead of this serious convo ultimately I feel like it meant he made peace with it.
they'd would of had to make peace with it. Topanga is a lawyer. Cory is a public school teacher. That's not a field you enter for the money
@@insertcognomen yeah but sometimes ego and emotion can get the better of you and arguments or disagreements happen
I really think Topanga was in the wrong here. I mean, in a sense they both were wrong, but when Cory was expressing how she was always shoving her perfection in his face and went and corrected him like that. He was expressing a genuine doubt and feeling and she proved him right. In that single instant she proved him right and I think anyone would have lashed out after that. They both said hurtful things, but Corey was pushed, after he had warned her he wanted to be alone to cool off and not say anything he would regret. Because he knew he would regret every word, he consciously knew that whatever he would say in that moment would only hinder his relationship, something he didn't want. But Topanga pushed, went out of her way to prove him right, dismissed his feelings as absurd after proving him right and called him a loser. I think that this clearly is a sign that Topanga was in the wrong, because she had dismissed his feelings from the get go. Women aren't always in the right people. My relationship has proven that to me time and time again.
In many relationships, there's usually one person who's "right" more often than the other, and if you're that person it can be really hard to step back with humility and consider that we might be the one who's wrong sometimes. It was a really valuable lesson for me. It also taught me that if if the other person is likely wrong, just facing the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong tends to alter how you communicate with your partner and make us more open to their point of view. So kudos to you!
Women aren't always right but you can't denie how many decades and even still man do such things to their wife's or girlfriends, bay saying that their carrier's are just like Hobbys or not so important than their jobs, so it was nice to see it other way around.
@@goldi1018 I don't deny it, though I am from Italy and see more men subjecated by women than the contrary 😅Still, women aren't always right. We're humans too and make mistakes just like any man. Its obviously different if you're talking about an abusive or toxic relationship.
@@goldi1018 oh shut up.
She was wrong. Not giving your spouse space, so they think things over on how to approach an issue is disrespectful. If she doesn't respect her spouse then who does she respect. To disrespect him in front of his friends was wrong as well. He is very patient with her, but don't kick men when they are down. He tries his best to provide for her.
That Killing the spirit comment did it big time. That was rough.
That married comment he said to her was real bad. They said a lot of mean things but that one hit different 😣 he basically told her he regrets even marrying her. Yikes might as well not be married then
Just as bad as demeaning everything that Cory was pursuing. She outright told him that she thinks she's better than him and everything he was doing was garbage. No wonder he feels like the life has been sucked out of him.
But calling your husband a loser isn't bad??? Youve seemed to have ignored things that she also said
@@yunglilbill5723 she's a woman so. Ofc she'd identify more with the female in the scenario
@@masonsuarez7096 that i can understand but, but to be a good partner is to understand the hurt you also cause.
@@yunglilbill5723 for sure. Accountability is absolutely imperative in a healthy relationship on both sides. Accountability, communication, and loyalty.
Growing up I never really liked Corey and Topanga’s relationship but won’t deny this interaction was really well written, especially how it’s like in real life.
Cory and Topanga's Relationship was better than Kevin and Winnie's.
REALISTICALLY, im not sure how you to get back together after "You killed my Spirit." Thats something you save when theres NO HOPE..
Exactly! That's tough. You're gonna always wonder is that how they really feel for the rest of your life. If somebody actually kills your spirit that's a wrap you don't need to be with them.
The acting in this show was just absolutely incredible, it makes me want to binge the entire series all over again.
nobody wins in this but their love brought them through
Never watched this show regularly (was just a smidge old for the target audience) but have seen clips here and there. Biggest takeaway is that this is one of the most emotionally intense shows perhaps ever? I watched a lot of 90210 and it never hit like this. If memory serves this guy was talking marriage in high school, like regularly. This is a really well-written scene.
Boy Meets World was one of the most emotionally-intelligent shows ever put on television.
Meh. Topanga should’ve given him room, but that doesn’t excuse or justify the things he said.
“I might say something I regret” can be applied to saying something like “Your perfectionism is driving me crazy.”
Telling her that marrying her killed his spirit … that’s a whole other beast.
But I’ve been in a relationship where I was constantly outperforming the guy. It flared his insecurity… so I tried to balance continuing to be my best with hiding it so I don’t get too much praise for it from others in front of it. Needless to say we didn’t last. It sucks for both genders that society looks down on men who don’t achieve as much as their partners.
Yeah you shouldn't have to hide your success from your partner. Your partner should be secure enough to be geneuinely happy for your success.
Women look down on men who don’t achieve as much
If my wife were a high-powered lawyer (Topanga in GMW), I'd be happy to sit and home and play video games :D
Lol while I wouldn’t have a problem with a partner who wasn’t achieving as much as me, I have to say I’d have a problem with laziness and lack of ambition. Want to be a house husband/stay at home dad? No problem. Just actually put effort into it and be the best house husband you can be (and don’t be insecure about it) lol.
@@UnAnonKnown true, whatever one does, one can strive to be the best. So whether it's being a housewife or househusband, a lawyer, a doctor, a secretary, a mechanic, a security guard, etc. Take pride in the quality of the work you do.
He is such a phenomenal actor
Like most relationship arguments both added fuel to the fire and it escalated. Corey needed space, Topanga didn't give it. Then she corrected him grammatically when Corey was expressing how much better she was than him. Then they both traded increasingly harsher insults until Corey capped it off with the "you broke my spirit" line. Corey meanwhile, should address his insecurities with Topanga calmly and without making her feel guilty for succeeding. Corey has shown selfish tendencies before, and this is another instance of it. In a relationship you should support your partner and be genuinely happy for their success.
Topanga also insulted him to other people, starting the whole thing. Corey was fine until he thought Topanga looked down on him for his own progress.
Exactly! He shouldn't have been jealous of her success, but she also should've given him space and she shouldn't have weaponized his insecurity against him in a fight.
i’m generally team topanga but she was in the wrong here. i’m like cory. if i say i need time and space, deny me it at your own risk!
Me too. I have a very dangerous temper and I don't mince words. Feelings are hurt and tears are shed if my anger explodes. If I'm angry and I ask for space and you don't give it to me, make peace with your Gods.
One of the 3 pillars that I believe make a successful relationship is communication. Cory expressed himself after being pushed (which sometimes needs to happen) and Topanga should have seen that he was communicating out of frustration and anger and not been so easily offended by it because some of what he said wasn’t true.
….um you can communicate like an adult. CHILDREN can express themselves out of anger and frustration and be forgiven because they don’t know how to regulate or communicate their emotions. But as a fully functioning adult, if you’re yelling stuff like “your big fat mouth” you need to take a breather and walk away cause that is NOT how you talk to someone else. I’m not perfect…I get angry…but I’ve learned to hold my anger, analyze it in my free time and then clearly articulate what is making me upset. I feel like Instead of lashing out, which isn’t healthy, he could’ve just said, I feel like my accomplishments are frequently being overshadowed in our relationship. And I want to celebrate all the things that you do because you are amazing but I feel like I don’t get a chance to feel that way too. And it’s not your fault that you’re being successful and I’m going to work hard so I can feel that way too…but in the meantime it’s frustrating and you’re probably picking up on my frustration. I just need a little space to deal but I’m okay. Especially if I can destress for a bit with my friends. Something like that. Idk.
Lashing out with venom isn't justified simply because you're upset, nor does it give you the right to unload all your bitterness onto your partner simply because you need to "express yourself" then expect them to just shrug it off because you didn't mean it. Words hurt. Especially coming from someone you love. Meanwhile, although Cory and Topanga may have not meant everything they said, there are seeds of truth in their lashing out.
Both parties are guilty, and both have a lot to apologize for. Topanga should have given him space when Cory repeatedly warned her he was already upset, but Cory was also remaining in the vicinity instead of fully removing himself from the situation and chose to engage in the altercation. Not only that, but spitting out whatever bitter bile he had built up while still in an angry state of mind is bad. Period.
Aggressive expression used to simply hurt your partner so they feel as negatively as you do is an unhealthy form of communication that can severely hurt a relationship. Topanga is equally guilty of instigating the fight further. Neither were willing to "lose". They wanted the last word, to top the other, if they felt bad then dammit so was the other. So it just built up and built up until finally it overflows, and in the end both of them are hurt and nothing has been accomplished.
They're also newlyweds, and while they've been a couple for a while, adjusting to a new relationship dynamic can cause a lot of big blow ups. But in the end they both cooled down and talked things out as maturely as they could and came to apologize.
@@brideofcthulhu347 Alot of women like you exhibit signs of being emotionally abusive. Seeing somebody is upset and needling them into a response in public so you can shout them down after they literally say they need space to process their feelings is in fact a sign of abuse. She didn't want communication she wanted to catch him off gaurd so he could not articulate his feelings properly when raw allowing her to shout him down.
I mean, Topanga has ALWAYS been this way.
On some level even maybe unconsciously she enjoyed it, it's how she valued herself growing up
Yeah It feels like It's implied that she thinks he's a handsome guy and likes him that way, but is condescending and doesn't value his intelligence.
This was such an emotionally elevated fight. Mostly due to it being censored for teens. But man. Such powerful words to say someone."You killed my spirit. Congratulations." Something so subtle and gentle yet impactful.
Wow! This scene really got to me. The writers of this show did a great job of showing how much the characters actually reflect and resemble alot of who they are, and where their personalitiew and commonalities come from. In some weird and twisted way, when Cory gets upset he raises his voice to let Topanga know he is being serious. That's exactly how his father (Alan Matthews) gets when he is upset and wants to be heard and understood.
That's why when a guy says "I don't want to talk because I don't want to say something I'll regret," you give him space.
not a guy, when someone doesnt want to talk you give them space... that's a really I'mportant lesson
women too. I get like this. I try to walk away to avoid saying something I regret.
This is one of the reasons why Boy Meets World is my #1 favorite sitcom from any decade!
Has nobody noticed his older brother smiling at Corey's fight with his wife?
He needed a minute to calm down and bill burr robots. everyone knows topanga is madly loved by Corey the thing is standing next to her in the real world he pales in comparison and because they usually don't compete with each other it never means corey has to be shown up and bruise the ego. Meanwhile topanga always has been perfect and if she's not site other episodes in the future she actually freaks out.
what the fuck are you trying to say i read this comment 18 times and im still stuck on the bill burr part
@@wesjanson6979 i to am wondering that its almost like a test ai chat bot that does not quite get how to hold a human conversation.
@@hardwirecars lmfaoo
Let this be a lesson before getting married and going to college.
Sean Connery once said. “You see women sometimes will keep going until you give them the last word and then they still keep going after you give him them the last word.” Luckily Cory isn’t Sean Connery.
Sean Connery was a dirt bag.
I started getting recommended these short clips from a show that I never watched or knew about, but now I'm kinda hooked!
👍THISSS WAS THE SHOW!!!☺️💯👍⭐️
How amazing their acting was. 🥺 Whenever I watch this scene it always gets to me because it just feels so real & it’s a very good lesson to learn from. That’s what I love most about Boy Meets World because they have so many life lessons that will carry on for generations. I love Cory & Topanga so much. ♥️ My relationship connects so well with theirs, from beginning to end. Amazing show! Going to see Pod Meets World live tomorrow! Can’t wait!!
This show had the BEST acting!
First off, these folks shouldn’t be hitting in on their argument (although these people do seem to love arguing in front of people in this show)
But it sounds like he’s stressed out and somehow is still the jerk in this situation despite him not wanting to argue and say something he’ll regret and then being told “you can’t sell a single magazine!” and then expressing that his spirits were crushed!” And there’s no remorse or apology. Just defensiveness and insults. He’s out of line saying some of the things he did but it’s not like they’ve only been together for a little bit. They’ve been together for a looong time with a decent relationship.
I see both sides.
Cori: *having a hard time, feeling insecure, feels undermined by Topanga, doesn’t want to snap at her*
Topanga: *just that good, wondering why Cori seems upset, needs communication*
I believe in giving people time especially if they more warning you off and I thought the correction when he was telling her how she felt was really demeaning which is why I’d probably side with Cory at first
However, the thing he ended up saying to Topanga was really hurtful so I’d wanna comfort her
Corey was being passive aggressive. He wanted Topanga to go after him so that he can explode. Insecurities are dangerous.
No Topanga was toxic and a disgusting monster belittling a good strong man…then ran away to play the victim.
@@DiegoDiabloNo, both were toxic and they got married too quick. After Corey was told he was rushing into this, too quick and he didn’t listen.
He’s also at fault and toxic at time as much as Topanga was. Stop victimising him like he is, the innocent one in the relationship. As also cheated on her multiple time, as he is a dishonest boyfriend to her.
When somebody says “not now” and tells you they don’t want to talk about it right now, believe them. Maybe if she would have given him a chance to calm down, he would have communicated to her what was wrong. But she kept pushing and pushing and he exploded. Now she wants to act like the injured party. That’s what happens when you nag someone to death.
So true. I hate it when people ignore other peoples warnings then get upset when they blow up on them.
He was being passive agressive and mean thats not how you ask for space.
Cant believe so many people are agreeing with Cory here. Of course space is important but communication is too, and Cory was projecting his insecurities onto Topanga who literally gave up going to Yale for him!!
He went way too far when the problem was with his own feelings of inadequacy and not her, and as seen in the end of the clip, he himself realised he crossed the line.
Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it. He wanted space so he could communicate later. A lot of people are saying they were both wrong. They are siding with Corey because he didn't want to have that conversation at that moment in that setting. Then when he actually stated his feelings in the wrong way she amplified and then fired back. She was the first domino in this situation.
@@Almightycoasters of course you make a valid point, but Corys behaviour is still not justified in my opinion - yes he’s human and he was upset and angry, however what he said was incredibly hurtful and untrue esp considering how much Topanga sacrificed to be with him and how much he wanted her there. While she should have given him space she was just confused and cared about him. I understand what you’re saying tho.
In a relationship it's not about measuring who gave up more for who. If you're going into marriage with the idea what you made your husband a favor by giving anything up for him, you'll end up either resentful or entitled. She didn't listen to him when he felt hurt and needed to be left alone, she insulted him in public and then acted like she was the hurt one. In marriage you are there to love and support this person, even in their insecurities, especially where they fall short. She was absolutely wrong, and if giving up Harvard for her husband was such a tremendous sacrifice that it grants her the right to insult him in front of their friends or forever hold it against him she shouldn't have done it in the first place. For his sake and her's she should've gone to Harvard and left him alone. A marriage where you're measuring to see who does or did more ( be it in things like these, in work, in chores, with the kids) than the other or who lost more to be with the other is not only never going to work, but it's going to cause the two people huge amounts of pain until it falls apart
@@j.r.r5863 I think you’ve misunderstood what I meant, sacrifices and compromises are indisputably part of a serious relationship, however i never said it gives her the RIGHT i’m saying it undermines Corys accusation that SHE broke his spirit as he did not want her to go to Yale because he wants to be near her. Also, if we are talking about insulting the other in front of friends it was Cory that was first and far more disrespectful than her by resorting to insults, so i think your argument it flawed because it is devolving into a different issue entirely.
You are 100% correct
Boy meets world is so good 😭
Facts
90s sitcoms were and will always be the best
The "oh man" at the end
God I fucking love this show and now I want to watch it all again lol
This reminds me of my ex wife, she would harp on the same conversation or topic and not give me space or let me breathe. It was rough bc it was during covid lockdown and I couldn’t have space. It’s rough when you go through something like this. But it teaches you a lot, maybe if we gave each other space things could have worked out better and communication wouldn’t have broken down.
Seeing ppl's true colors is better than hiding in the long run. U deserve better king. U don't need a toxic person. Hope u find someone better for u
Line stepping..!! We all do it, even though they have been together for years they were not married for years. As we grow with lid experiences our relationships grow as well. When Cory said to back off she should have listened..instant regret from both parties.
This!!
When someone is angry with me and says to me “ please leave me alone before I say something I’m going to regret”..... that’s EXACTLY what I want and probably need to hear so I don’t back off. What that means is that person is angry enough that the filter will not block them from telling me the truth about how they really feel.
Yes it may either damage or cost us the relationship, but I’m better off knowing the truth.
How many times do people blow up in a fight and say the worst shit to someone and then later on they say I really didn’t mean that. The fact is, yes you did. It’s just that the anger finally gave you the balls to say what you really wanted to say. When we are angry, when we are drunk, when we are vulnerable, we are the most honest.
Why do we tell somebody how much we can’t stand them when we are angry. Why do we call our ex when we are drunk?
Because the filter is gone in both of those cases. The filter often blocks the truth. Before it goes from our brain to our mouth, the filter makes us think if we really want to say it and what the consequences are but we’re not concerned with consequences when we are angry or drunk.
So whatever she said to him and whatever he said to her right here was honesty.
I fully agree
Do that to a good chunk of people and you're getting your face smashed in. Someone says stop, you freaking stop.
Leaving someone alone after them telling you to is respecting a boundary. Honest emotions and issues can be communicated differently and both parties can be more receptive to one another while in a neutral, calm state. Though they both said their truths in an angry, more aggressive manner.. some things can be forgiven, but never forgotten.
The acting here was STRONG
oooooooooh. Love the audience in the background lol. But seriously...read the room when you correcting grammar folks.
The college era of Boy Meets World is my favorite because of scenes like these
Conversations that shouldve been done in private. 🤣
Facts! I could not have an audience like that 😂 now people are gonna pick sides that way.
I loved this show growing up
Ladies just a word to the wise, when your man says to give him some time it’s because he wants to talk about something but literally “doesn’t want to say something he regrets” that’s legit gotta let the anger go away before you can be constructive.
ok I wouldn’t aim that at just women because it can go in both directions. they were both at fault so let’s not project this onto women
@@arctic_adrenaline Corey expressed that he wanted to talk but at the current time was too angry, topanga pushed him instead of having some patience, she was in the wrong, and had to have the last word no matter how much it hurt Corey. Like it or not this scene is meant to show women that you should know when to realize a man needs to be given a moment the same way you would. This isn’t projection this is the reality of what the scene is depicting I’ve seen many many women do this exact thing and then play victim be responsible for yourself. Corey was responsible enough to know it was not a good time for him to have that conversation, but topanga wanted to have it and she got what she asked for and was warned before she got it. Respect your man especially when he tells you he’s angry it means he cares about what’s going on around him and he has an opinion about it. Fuck outta here with that projection bullshit Corey and topanga’s relationship is incredibly true to what a real relationship goes thru and how it effects both parties if you took what I said as an insult or a projection that’s a you problem 👌🏻
r/pointlesslygendered 🙄
It applies to all humans.
@@kbf9644 this is mostly a woman trait having to have the last word and always in control
@@trejay2387 it’s mostly misogynistic asshats that think that.
Telling your wife she killed your spirit is divorce words
Damn. That got really hurtful.
Cory Told her to just Leave it Alone And she Didn't That's on Her
Well usually when there's a problem two adults should be able to work it out and not ignore it🤷♀️
@@ranip7644 yes but some poeple to be alone with their thoughts so they can clear their head first , so when they talk to their spouse they are rational and don't say emotionally charged comments they regret later. and cory told her to leave him alone so he wouldn't do just that. & considering how their friends were acting in the fight signifies they know she's the one in the wrong.
While you're right about him asking her to give him space at that time, let's be honest.......🤨Corey was going to let his emotion get the best of him eventually. It was going to Fester more and more. The more he saw his wife succeed more and more, he was going to eventually get into a big fight with her sooner or later. This was clearly all about jealousy and insecurity from Corey
@@WillsonT011 if it was all about corey why she snapped back?
I'm a woman and I was on Cory's side. Sometimes you need time on your own to process everything and just take a breath and think thorough their problem
The way they both spoke to each other was to listen to respond, not listen to understand. This is far more common when you’re young, in your 20’s & something you either learn to facilitate as you get older so you have the emotional intelligence to resolve things with a partner or you do what these two do in this argument, push each others buttons, not hear one another, cause a lot of disconnect in the moment. Corey could of 100% said, “Topanga I love you. However, when you keep correcting me it feels like you don’t trust I can be as competent as you are. It makes me feel small and less than on some level. I know you mean well, it’s coming from a good place, but you have to let me figure things out on my own, make mistakes, and learn from them. I can’t be the person you need me to be if you’re always stepping in to rescue me every chance you get. Again, I love you, but you gotta let me learn to fail.“
"I wanna see Toponga make Corey cry" 😫
This fight hurt my heart I’m happy for the new show tho.
I don't think I've ever watched this since being in relationships and you can say what you want about Boy Meets World being childish, but sometimes they nail it and they do here. When you're at wits end, sometimes this is how it comes out, and I love that its from both of them because thats so true to real life. Honestly, I'm sad the show didn't develop more into this cause its incredibly interesting and I feel not properly explored. Lots of stuff is either too happy unrealistic or too sad maybe more realistic but almost too real. This rides a fine line and could teach a nice lesson.
I don’t think anybody won there my dude. I think you both said some things you didn’t mean.
As a married woman, I can tell you these are the type of explosive fights you have in the earlier stages of marriage. We wouldn’t have this fight publicly as Topanga and Corey did, but marriage ain’t always roses and sunshine. To have a successful marriage you learn and absorb things about your spouse and hopefully don’t make the same mistakes down the road. Marriage is also about acceptance, which means you accept everything about them (not abuse) for who they are. If you can’t do that, then marriage may not be for you. It’s also about forgiveness because you’re going to have arguments and disagreements because you’re two human beings learning how to be apart of each others space. You’re going to say things in the heat of the moment, but you can always be an adult and apologize and vice versa. Corey and Topanga were very young when they got married so I’m sure a lot of their growth and maturity will come from their marriage.
This is why I always try to make sure that my husband feels validated when he needs it but give him space at his request. Communication is key with any relationship, especially marriage. It’s a little awkward sometimes when you’re autistic and trying to read the situation but that’s why you talk to each other and understand when to push forward and when to back down.
And hey, somehow he’s still wanting to be with me after over a decade so I must be doing something right.
Hell yeah you are. You sound like the perfect wife. We've been together for 2 years and next year when we hit our 3 year mark he's going to propose. I can't wait to marry him and I hope our love lasts forever.
@@truthseeker9249 I hope it all works out for you two ❤️
@@NeedlessExposition thank you.
What a great show.... This scene was well played
Entire scene is ruined by seeing the prices on the coffee board at about 20 seconds in. Gourmet coffee then $.075, gourmet coffee now, $1.99. Gas then $1.00 per gallon, gas now $4.50 per gallon. Federal minimum wage then $5.15, now $7.25. notice how prices for goods raised a lot more than the minimum wage...
Almost like it's on purpose or something......
I feel like if you haven’t had a serious disagreement with someone while you’re dating you probably shouldn’t get married until you’ve seen how they handle a disagreement.
Because I promise you, you will disagree on something eventually .
I’m not saying be a jerk and try to deliberately fight with the person, but you should be bringing up tough subjects that could end up sparking a disagreement .
If they turn it into a fight, you’re gonna have to learn how to work through things together, so this doesn’t happen because years and years and years of this kind of fighting will destroy your marriage.
If you can’t learn how to work out something and speak maturely about it without resorting to the tactics in this clip , you remain very immature.
Both my husband and I did this for a long time . Then I wise up, but my husband didn’t and for a decade I tried and tried and tried to get us to try to discuss this agreements more maturely. We were fighting even over the most ridiculous things now that look back.
I finally had it this fall/winter .
I basically sat down this past week after our last fight again and told him I was sorry for and what I wanted to see and how our marriage cannot continue as it is.
I asked him to rebuild it with me to lay aside the individuals so we could work as a team, and as a we…. I asked him if he was ready to jump in 100% or was he out?
I had already laid out what wasn’t acceptable anymore .
Luckily, he was in .
And now, instead of watching TV and ignoring each other on our phones, we are taking each evening to layout how we can rebuild our marriage, and set a new foundation with new rules and new ways to approach everything .
I really think these things need to be brought up before marriage. It’s sad that it took us 17 years to figure this crap out.
I hope if we figure this out that maybe we can find a way to help others with what we’ve learned
everyone saying how Topanga was wrong here and Corey was more right but i don't see that at all. Maybe if they weren't married, or if they hadn't been together so long cory would be right. But they're married here. Its fine to need space, yes, but its pretty clear that Topanga here is worried about whats wrong - that causes anxiety and of course she would pursue him saying "i dont like that you cant talk to me about this" because in marriage youre supposed to be a unit and discuss things. Sure Corey doesnt seem ready to discuss at that moment, but he could at least give her some reassurance or a little bit of anything really. You can't just say "i dont want to say something I'll regret" because saying that just causes the other person to think "oh, so they're thinking really bad things about me now. Why? What happened? What did i do?" And if its in marriage, of COURSE thatd just prompt more questions and curiosity.
"Youre better at pookie-pook than me too"
"topanga, if you were as smart as your ace streak says you are, you would know to leave me alone right now"
he says these things to his wife whilst telling her to drop it and walk away, because he doesnt want to start anything, but hes already started it with those comments and hes making it her job to be the bigger person in the moment and leave even saying "You leave I win" at the end when she finally leaves.
Its fine to need and ask for space. But if you are asking or needing space, you shouldn't be so passive aggressive about it, avoiding explaining anything at all whilst simultaneously implying that its the other persons fault that youre acting like this.
I just feel hes being kind of childish in the way he is expressing himself and handling his emotions. Which is fine, because everyone has those moments and being married is about sticking through it and working it out. I just disagree with everyone saying that topanga is the one in the wrong here. Sure, you can say she isn't owed anything reasoning or explanation for why he wants space, which is valid, but you can't tell me that cory isn't already being passive aggressive before he even asks for space. He walks away after making a comment like "youre better than me at that too" in a tone that is obviously meant to be snarky and not in the nice playful way. Then he asks for space, after already poking at topanga and implying that shes the problem. Thats not fair to her for him to start something, for a reason that she doesnt know yet, and then walk away and tell her she needs to leave him alone and give him space, whilst implying shes the issue, but not telling her what the issue he has with her is, just saying he doesnt want to say something he'll regret.
I feel like he never would have had a conversation with her about how hes feeling and what bothers him if she hadn't pushed here. Because he was implying he'd regret talking about how some of her actions make him feel, which he ends up regretting, but not because of the reasoning of the conversation, but because of the way he went about the conversation.
a simple "hey, im sorry, i need some time to myself right now to figure out what exactly im feeling before I discuss it with you, can you give me some space for now?" Or "hey, im not exactly sure what's sparking these emotions right now, could you maybe give me some space to figure it out?" Or "im not ready to discuss this yet, I promise ill talk to you once ive got it figured out, you dont need to worry about it" Or "sorry, could we discuss this later? i dont think I'm ready for this at the moment"
any of those or other things he couldve said - but mainly its just the tone he uses and the little jabs he throws while asking for space that are the problem. Honestly he seems more to imply here that he doesnt want to talk with her about any of this like ever. Which is the wrong attitude to have. hes shutting her out here he really only implies to her that they dont need to talk about it because he'll regret it. Even if that discussion is definitely necessary in their relationship going forward because otherwise those feelings he had would just grow and grow and fester with him growing to just become annoyed with her, whilst she remains anxious and curious about whats happening with him and not being able to ask or anything because he would push her away saying he would regret talking.
idk just my thoughts.
i think they both are kinda wrong here but topanga is DEFINITELY not any more in the wrong than corey. But this fight really isnt that big of a deal anyways, it just could have been handled much better
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This! All of this! Even if i dont want to talk about something i tell my husband anyways.. Its better to get it out of the way.. Rip it off like a band-aid.
Especially if its about him.. In this scenario coreys problem was with topanga so he should've let her know she was the problem.. Its better to let it all out.. Because whose to say he wouldn't have blown up on her at a random time later? Whose to say " giving him space would have even helped him not to say anything he'd regret". Hell whose to say he would've told her at all🤷♀️
Geez it would be a woman to write a book long comment. And she was wrong. Correcting him over grammer when they were arguing.
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I’ve been in the same situation with my husband and I need the space to register my emotions properly. Even married YOU as the other spouse can’t decide if the other is ready to talk. I found that most times I tried to finish an argument without some space I completely shut down or end up saying I regret. Which way is better? Taking some time apart to have a productive conversation or what just happened?
Noooo this scene was so tough to watch ! Felt like seeing your parents fight, I was like stop fighting you’re tearing this family apart 😩 lol
Back before ppl were labeled toxic for getting into an argument (note: I’m not saying there aren’t relationships that are toxic, just that we now tend to withdraw from confrontations like this a lot more)
man this show gets so real sometimes.. i miss this type of shows in the 90's
Honestly they should talked this out on there own instead of in public
Almost like one if them wouldn't let that happen
Well not really “they “ more lik she
That's why Cory told her to leave him alone lol
@@rohunsaigal2576 Leave him alone is not move the conversation to private
@@melodyclark1944 it means he didn't want to talk to her at all about it at that moment, let alone in public despite her insistence that they hash it out in front of the whole world
Perfect example of how there is no "winner" in marital arguments. The moment you start trying to win a fight against your spouse, you both lose.
I need to go hug my wife after this
Never realized how good acting they did. Favorite show when I was 12 13
This is deep. The thing is with BOTH of them. In a relationship it’s need communication and they didn’t know it.
How do I know? I’ve been married for 12 years. I am 30 now and oh boy there were days like this, the thing was my husband didn’t say anything he kept everything in and I would get upset because he is a man and they don’t normally say anything until arguments like this. A lot of miscommunication on how I felt and how I worded things same with my husband.
Well 10 years into the relationship we finally understand that we needed to communicate with each other, tell each other how we are feeling and work it out. We forgive each other and grew out of our big heads and to this day we have small arguments here and there and never this big and we are happier. But people COMMUNICATION is key. You BOTH have to be able to get the stick out of your ass and admitted to doing and saying wrong too.
First of all, I'm loving these throwback BMW clips. I honestly don't think Corey is in the wrong in this particular clip. Was he wrong in general? Yes, he needed to be more supportive of Topanga. HOWEVER, in this clip he said very clearly that he wasn't in the mood and didn't want to talk about it because he didn't want to say something that he would regret and Topanga kept pushing him and pushing him and got her feelings hurt. Should he control himself, yes. But he didn't lash out of nowhere.
What lesson we should be getting from this is that jealousy is a very negative thing.
Don't call your spouse a loser?
@@kyleellis1825 Right over your head.
@@OceanbornAngel Corey was never jealous of Topanga until she called him a loser.
So the lesson we should be learning is, don't look down on your spouse and insult them to practical strangers.
And you should never be jealous of someone else's successes.
And a superiority complex is an even more negative thing. Please stop acting like Cory is the bad guy.