200kW Jaguar I-PACE Motor

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @PaulSouthport
    @PaulSouthport 11 месяцев назад +12

    I-Pace is 400V, not 800V. Great vid, thanks!

  • @tanithrosenbaum
    @tanithrosenbaum Год назад +14

    Those are still Torx screws, they're called "External Torx" or "Inverted Torx", or vendor-neutrally "Hexalobular External" (as opposed to "Hexalobular Internal" for the regular ones). The tool sizes for the external ones start with E instead of T.

    • @Soloist1983
      @Soloist1983 Месяц назад

      Anyone that's worked on an MB knows the ol' E-Torx, fun stuff :D

  • @u3b93
    @u3b93 Год назад +17

    You definitely have an art at explaining fundamentals. Wished you could do more content. Thanks

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад +1

      I should have more time soon, fingers crossed!

  • @ViniciusMiguel1988
    @ViniciusMiguel1988 Год назад +5

    Happy to see you back! Now it’s time for a new inverter project! ❤

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад +3

      I’m already working on a 30kW one for formula student. Hoping to borrow one of those once they’re done haha!

  • @adricklynn8882
    @adricklynn8882 3 месяца назад +8

    Hey great video man I'm having a great time watching it, the springy ringy things are called CirClips, or retaining springs, or snap rings!

    • @adricklynn8882
      @adricklynn8882 3 месяца назад +1

      Bonus name: My friends here in the States almost always refer to them as "Oh Sh*t" Rings as they have a habit of shooting off the end of your snap-ring tool at high velocity--and they almost never hit anyone in the eyes!

    • @lorenzogibello6200
      @lorenzogibello6200 2 месяца назад +2

      @@adricklynn8882 when thay avoid eyes they end up in an unreachable area,it's a physics law

  • @bennetting1609
    @bennetting1609 Год назад +6

    Great video! It's great to see you back as well 😁

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Great to see you back too G

  • @KirstyTube
    @KirstyTube 2 месяца назад +4

    10 / 10 for the video. 6 / 10 for the sound effects. Loves it 😂

  • @martinmillar8447
    @martinmillar8447 20 дней назад

    You need to get building a go cart for that motor 🚀

  • @sparkanew
    @sparkanew Год назад +3

    Great to see you upload again. Awaiting the next video on the Direct Current Control series. Cheers 🥂

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад

      I did record two, but the circuits didn’t work both times unfortunately. I think for it to be stable it’ll probably need a microcontroller but I’m hoping to do something with it at some point, might be a while though.

  • @FlatEric971
    @FlatEric971 3 месяца назад +1

    The bolts you speak of at the beginning of the video are known as either: External Torx bolts, or Torx bolts.
    Great video !

  • @biggityboggityboo8775
    @biggityboggityboo8775 Месяц назад +2

    Both ST and TI offer developer boards that will do sensorless motor drive using field orientated control. The boards will also profile the motor where they spin the thing and measure all of it's parameters. As far as I know they offer these in low voltage (60V limit) and high voltage (mains) variants. I don't think they are that outrageously expensive so they might be a decent option. Another option would be a higher voltage hobby remote control motor esc board. I'm not sure how high these go up to through.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Месяц назад

      Those dev-boards do sound nice!. I have an Infineon IGBT inverter eval kit somewhere that really I should be using instead of my box of high on-resistance and bad parasitics 😅

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 2 месяца назад +1

    👍👍

  • @APerson-jf2md
    @APerson-jf2md 3 месяца назад +2

    700 subscribers.. I guess, that changed a little bit over the last year. :)

  • @InvokePerformance
    @InvokePerformance 3 месяца назад +1

    very cool work subbed!!!!!

    • @InvokePerformance
      @InvokePerformance 3 месяца назад

      @electrcarc240 the casing is very similar to the EM61 nissan leaf motor

  • @samywijaya3288
    @samywijaya3288 3 месяца назад

    video yang luar biasa teman👍👍, sebagai saran saja jika ingin memaksimalkan kinerja motor mungkin harus menggunakan perangkat dan software sesuai dari sistem dan mekanisme yg digunakan perusahaan produsennya, namun jika ingin melakukan experimen sederhana dan sesuatu yg seru dengan motor tersebut mungkin dapat menggunakan rangkaian dan pengaturan sederhana dari bedini motor dengan beberapa penyesuaian komponen tentunya, dan atau dari dad hav yang menggunakan rangkaian osilator sederhana untuk menggerakkan motor bldc hanya melalui satu atau dua lilitan kumparan dan tanpa sensor🙏🙏, tetap semangat, sehat dan sukses selalu😁, ditunggu upload video menarik lainnya🙋🏽

  • @SW-qr8qe
    @SW-qr8qe 2 месяца назад

    Perhaps the G/box has the park park in it like a conventional automatic?
    Just got to section where you released it

  • @stillstanding123
    @stillstanding123 Месяц назад

    Excellent video. You explain technical issues very well. Have you considered a career in teaching ?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Месяц назад

      Yes I am hoping to teach one day. The problem is finding people who are interested. Most university students aren’t

  • @OleHansen-f2c
    @OleHansen-f2c 9 месяцев назад

    It may be the resistance windings -> ground (housing) that scrapped it. With an isolation tester (set to 500V) measure the resistance.
    Also it should already have a resolver (encoder) attached to it, I think it is the white wire sticking out of it.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  9 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately I don’t have an insulation tester (yet). The white wires seem to go to a thermistor in the stator, there is only two conductors so it can’t be a resolver. I think the rotor of the resolver is still on the shaft (can be seen at 6:05) but the stator is sadly not

    • @Kurtsi
      @Kurtsi 3 месяца назад

      It may be that you removed the resolver at 3:10.
      Would you happen to have pictures of that too?

  • @jboy6944
    @jboy6944 2 месяца назад

    Could adding a capacitor with one of the phase help with starting and stalling?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  2 месяца назад

      Not in this case, capacitance on the output of a conventional voltage source inverter is very undesirable it can cause quite a few problems

  • @kelimike
    @kelimike 3 месяца назад

    Wasnt orange winding 180° off? Wound backward?

  • @antonioastorino7488
    @antonioastorino7488 2 месяца назад

    Could it be that the different inductance you measured on one phase was due to the particular rotor position? Just curious. Thanks for sharing this and other nice videos!

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  2 месяца назад

      Good suggestion, I don't think I tried rotating it. Though there was definitely something wrong because it had been thrown out :(

  • @ItisImarko
    @ItisImarko Год назад

    Brilliant! Am do you have possibility to make 3d scan to cad of a compleat unit..??
    And what is the transmition ratio?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад +1

      Sorry I can’t 3D scan it. And I’m not sure about the ratio I’m sure it’ll be online somewhere though. A complete guess based on similar gearboxes would be 7:1

    • @ItisImarko
      @ItisImarko Год назад

      @@electrarc240 gearbox no info.. I checked... 3d scan easy peasey with phone especially if you have iPhone LLIDAR

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Год назад +4

      I do not have a fancy iPhone I wasted all my money on test gear and components lol. Just checked the gearbox ratio it is 9:1 or very close

  • @namenotshown9277
    @namenotshown9277 3 месяца назад

    How did you come up with 250amp max, just from the 800v input?Very cool video

    • @AmadeusBrown
      @AmadeusBrown 6 дней назад

      He knows the power the motor produces and estimates the current from that as power is voltage multiplied by the current. The problem is the jaguar i-pace actually has a 400 volt system and not 800 volt.

    • @namenotshown9277
      @namenotshown9277 5 дней назад

      @@AmadeusBrown I see quite simple

  • @soundcode0246
    @soundcode0246 2 месяца назад

    What uni are you at? or what course? eee?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  2 месяца назад

      University of Nottingham and yes EEE

  • @eightysevenmoore
    @eightysevenmoore Месяц назад

    So…. From experience… 8 years running performance dynos for the development lab at BorgWarner developing PMAC from 60kW to 400kW machines… your back EMF waveform looks wrong. The phases should be 120 phase offset… check your sense leads or daq set up! I’ve made that mistake 100 times.

  • @wormturned7379
    @wormturned7379 Месяц назад

    "...where it belongs, in the soil..." 🤣🤣

  • @eightysevenmoore
    @eightysevenmoore Месяц назад

    Slow speed always has cogging torque… always.

  • @lachlanlau
    @lachlanlau 3 месяца назад +1

    4:46 get some c clip pliers

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  3 месяца назад

      Yep I really need to!

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 3 месяца назад

      @@electrarc240 I've always known them as circlips (circular clips?).

  • @ApocalypticIdol
    @ApocalypticIdol 2 месяца назад

    @1:50 mmmhmm

  • @eightysevenmoore
    @eightysevenmoore Месяц назад

    PMACs have a hard time holding 0 speed… it’s very very difficult to control AT 0…

  • @stevemawer848
    @stevemawer848 3 месяца назад

    While the electric motor may be simpler and lighter, than an ICE try picking up the fuel supply for 260 mile range in an EV compared to an ICEV! And the tank in an EV doesn't get lighter as the fuel is used, so you're always lugging the maximum mass about, regardless of range.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  3 месяца назад +1

      Both have pros and cons I agree. I'm very biased though due to my background so I will be quiet now haha

    • @matthewseymour8972
      @matthewseymour8972 3 месяца назад

      Yes both have pros and cons, but I know which I prefer - having driven electric for four years now.

  • @ambersmith6517
    @ambersmith6517 Год назад +1

    you must use that motor on something

  • @eightysevenmoore
    @eightysevenmoore Месяц назад

    So…. From experience… 8 years running performance dynos for the development lab at BorgWarner developing PMAC from 60kW to 400kW machines… your back EMF waveform looks wrong. The phases should be 120 phase offset… check your sense leads or daq set up! I’ve made that mistake 100 times.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Месяц назад +1

      Yes I added a little caption at 8:02 explaining that one phase is inverted, this was due to my probe setup but I don't remember why I didn't just flip it. My apologies. Also your job sounds very interesting, I have used a BorgWarner/Sevcon inverter quite extensively for Formula Student and (some of) it is really nice!

    • @eightysevenmoore
      @eightysevenmoore Месяц назад

      @@electrarc240 did you use DVT to program the sevcon? Which sevcon did you use?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Месяц назад

      Unfortunately yes I did use DVT, software so crap the motor locks up when you drag a window because the CAN messages stop. I used the HVLP-20