That will never happen. He doesn’t have the ability to understand a perspective different from his. If you don’t agree with him, he thinks you’re a clown. It’s exhausting.
Cole was clearly pulling his punches on 7min drill tho. He even said it in the song. And you can tell if you took a second to observe real rappers. Kendrick ain’t from w him. Not even a lil bit.
Unfortunately that won't happen. Mals point about Drake putting money in Coles pocket mirrors what Joe said on his last pod. I put money in niggas pockets let them drive my car and they turn around and call me a thief. Almost certain he was shooting at Mal.
Facts. Mal killed the whole convo. & i fuck with Mal but I HATE his music takes. I don't think he is qualified in ANY way to talk about music fr. He can talk about whatever he wants to, but his opinion...correction, his feelings...have NO VALIDITY. Like NONE.
Mal's points were valid and very true and he actually is right -- the issue with him tho is he way too emotionally invested in Drake. Like he got 2 kids by Drake and Drake gives him 50k per month in child support and bought him a house. I don't even think Drake goes as hard for himself as Mal does.....Hell Drake was even trolling himself with some of the things Kendrick said about him, and Mal not even doing this for engagement....He is naturally passionate about Drake even when he tried his best to keep his composure, u can tell the panel is over his emotions, but unfortunately for them, they have to deal with him.
Yea cuz of stupid ass comments like this. It gets infuriating when ngas just say anything, psycho analyzing ngas like you know them saying extra homo sht. You ngas are weird bro and that Drake hate is a fckn Psychosis. I’ve never seen ngas so jealous of a mf in my life
@@MarcusJII it’s true but clearly ppl are protecting Cole in this it’s a lot of bias in it .. plus Kendrick wanted to keep it friendly with Drake so you think K dot would’ve played dirty against J.fold .Cole * ?
@@kcslater4840we protecting him because Christ sent him. His only begotten nephew to the pulpits of rap to harness the power of lyricism reaching the highest level known to mankind. So shall it be written. So shall it be done. He give to us “Jermaine Cole” . Protect him at all costs. 💪🏽
People quick to throw out words like "insecure". Yeah. Mal has a point but you can't act like you're the arbiter of all that's right and true. He does that a lot.
The fact Mal is the only one in the room who sees it the way he does is a sad reflection of what hip hop has become in 2024…everything Mal says in this video is correct. Cole fired his shot, missed and then ran away, simple as that
💯💯it’s nothing but a popularity contest now. If we like someone we justify whatever they do. If we don’t like someone we shit on them for every little thing. Cornball shit at its finest
Boy, Mal is absolutely exhausting whenever anything Drake is brought up. He even makes some good points here but he's so emotionally invested with Drake he can't help but raise his voice over everybody and cut everybody off whenever they try to speak. He couldn't even let Julian read the lyrics without wildin and yelling. Mal thinks he's Drake's personal attorney on this pod. Emotional ass..
He can be exhausting at times but not one time did he lie. The false narrative of pedophilia runs the internet when it concerns Drake, Kendrick took this to new heights yet Drake kept it going. If Cole dropped out cause he knew how it was gonna go that’s crazy. If Cole dropped out cause 7 minute drill was ass, that’s crazy. Mal was spot on. It was time to show Cole was actually top 3 and he didn’t. We moved on to future 😂
@@BigBelairePapiwhy are y’all mad at Kendrick for running with the pedo narrative like drake didn’t bring it up first before Kendrick even responded, plus let’s not forget drake called him a woman beater (again before Kendrick responded) yet Kendrick’s wild for calling him a pedo when ppl BEEN talking about drake being weird, drakes downfall is bc he’s an arrogant asshole and nothing else
What cole did is like punching someone in the face then saying sorry and running home. Then when that person moves away you come outside and tell everybody you would have won the fight..
That's perfectly said bruh. What makes it worse is Cole been saying due years what he'd do if a mf said his name. Then when it happens, he born again all of a sudden. Corny mf
Which is crazy. Julien and Demaris have direct connects within DreamVille. Mal has a personal relationship with Drake and was given inside information directly from him. TDE has had members shoot directly at them online. If anything, they should be KILLING IT right now. But here we are.
Cole’s attempt at revisionism is pathetic imo. He was the first to jump out with a full track and now wants to take a moral high ground, the difference is everyone called his track weak.
@@RocBoiBaccInTownthat Cole should’ve shut up. This track wasn’t needed. He’s trying to paint himself as the wise man who is above it all when he just pussied out. He released the first proper diss 😂
This conversation is a one between emotion and logic. As much as I HATE Mal’s takes, he’s spot on this. He’s not inserting any hypotheticals, he’s telling EXACTLY what happened. The rest of the crew just has confirmation bias. Euphoria didn’t drop for a couple weeks before Cole got on that stage and did what he did. He didn’t know where this was headed, the record just didn’t land like he thought it would and knew Dot’s pen was about to show out.. And people keep forgetting “7 minute Drill” came before all of Kendrick’s records.. Instead of showcasing his rap ability and how he had the better bars, he decided to diss Kendrick’s catalog. Not once did he try to prove he was the better “rapper” he just instantly started dissing. I move with so much discernment and Cole can’t fool me dawg. That man is not who y’all want him to be so bad and he knows Kendrick would’ve exposed that to the world. He did the same thing with NoName when she called him out as well. Once people remove their emotion, they’ll clearly see Cole is not built to be the greatest and that’s okay. Take ya L and move along.
@@denrico777 That’s what he should’ve said from the jump. That Q told him to drop out. Instead, he got on stage before the show and tried to make it something that it wasn’t talking about “they wanna see bloooood” Nah, we wanted to hear you back up ya raps of you proclaiming “numero uno” like he had been doing the past 3 years. And again.. the ball was in Cole’s court with “7 Minute Drill” Instead of barring Kendrick to death, he decided to start IMMEDIATELY dissing him. That’s on Cole. It didn’t land like he thought it would and he backed out before Kendrick dropped his records and is trying to make it look like, us as a people, was the reason for him dissing Kendrick instead of just rapping. Nah Jermaine, take them participation trophy raps home my boy. We do not care.
@@IGotTheNewness no kiss ass these are two of the best comments i’ve read breaking down the facade of cole that i’ve read since the port antonio dropped, and i’ve probably read over 1000 atp. cole has turned out to be in my eyes as fake as drake, just in a different way, and my perception has totally changed about him and I don’t believe or trust a word that come out his mouth anymore. it’s sad cuz I used to fw, not anymore.
@@IGotTheNewnessu should check out “i’m sick of j cole” by the youtuber named “[deleted]” he gives an excellent and thorough breakdown of how fake and spineless jcole really is
That was crazy to me too. Men don't even talk like that. Imagine you telling your homie, "You know im bout to call your boy a PDF file," let alone a dude you met through rap.
@@jawahncoaxum4662 it’s a fact q told Cole Kendrick was going to say nasty freaky shit about Drake and it was personal and Cole should sit this one out lol also yall act like Cole ain’t been rocking with Kendrick for 15 years
I’m actually not mad at Mal’s stance w Cole at all. Rap was literally built off competition & battle culture, & we’ve NEVER seen a rapper double-dutch in & out a rap beef
@@kapoukapoioskapotenah.. he’s called himself Muhammad Ali and was in visuals with drake in a 1v1 with stats. His mission isn’t to change the competitive culture obviously based off action..he got scared. Stop caping for Cole like he some holy knight
@@24klogan86 he literally could’ve kept it strictly bars like he did in 7 minute drill, it wasn’t as deep as folks wanna make it seem. You can’t name one rap battle that didn’t have its share of foul jabs. Whether they were true or not lol
Mal got the most surface level thinking ever. Real remedial, and he contradicts himself every 5 minutes lol. He very much said we needed to hear from Cole during that beef, so the "he shouldnt have put anything out" take is bullshit. Mal was one of the first to say " we gotta hear from Cole"
@@Wyndamnimagine the energy we would be giving Drake if he just flat out apologized and said he couldn’t sleep after YEARS OF TELLING US HE ON THE THRONE AND READY TO KILL WHOEVER 😂
@@oophorror2251nobody’s is mad because Cole rapped well, we all know the guy can rap better than most. How is Dot gonna reply to Cole when he apologized a day after he put out the diss 😂😂
Exactly. Idk wtf Jcole is talking about. This is sports, this is competition,this is game 7 of the finals. We just wanted to see you hoop. Then he folded. No one is say Cole is not nice, but in game 7 you got nervous
Yeah but both Kenny n Drake took it way further than just a test of lyrical skills. They both pushed extremely sick narratives in order to win an I’m pretty sure Cole wasn’t willing to take it that personal.
Im sure Cole has more access to information about the battle and how it was heating up than you do bro. He spoke to Q before bowing out. It's clear he had more information on the battle than you @@rainmaker1169
Only 2 teams in game 7 of the finals. People been waiting for Kendrick vs Drake. J Cole is friends with both. Why are people acting like it would make sense for him to hoop? Against who?
You can't say he speaking facts and this is hip hop when the man u agreeing with says in the same video has a problem with a rapper spitting personal shit which has happened historically in hip hop
Mal the only one holding J Cole accountable for the years of JCole subbing Kendrick/saying he himself is the best rapper in the game and noone can match him just to fold and runaway when it was his time to prove it
All the j Cole fans are mad cause people don’t think dropping out of a rap battle and coming back saying ”I would’ve won if I felt like it” is some Fly sh*t 😂😂😂
@@Violentlyopinionated nigga he pump faked & punked out on a challenge when he been begging for a challenge for years. Thats why he’s “penalized “ lil bro
I’ve been a Cole hate since he tried to rap over Ye and Kast instrumentals. Always mocked him for noting being to write a chorus on 9/10 songs. False Prophets is blasphemous. New song is 3stacks level. Cole don’t care what any of y’all think. He’s clearly moving different. And we all know Dot’s people guilted him into dropping out of the battle. Dot can’t combat a dude that rides a bike while he’s buying 40M$ mansions. In the end, an artists discography is what wins.
This is the first time in a long time. I’m actually agreeing with mal, they keep for J. Cole so hard it is ridiculous. It’s like it’s flipped mal still occasionally capping for Drake, but they go above and beyond to act like what J. Cole did was fly.
What most of y’all aren’t understanding is what Mal is saying is Cole shot his "gun" missed the nigga, saw KDot pop the switch and load the extendo and aimed it at him and at that moment he decided to preach positivity after shooting at Dot first. Its unacceptable to then try and play the mental health and unity cards😂
This is the only time in my life I agreed with Mal lmao as a Kendrick and Cole fan. Like you dissed him, apologized than came back and dissed him in this new song. Either battle bro or don’t pick a a lane
@@nunitostaymaccin I get that I’m just saying some stuff is better shared between your friends and not made public. Now everyone knows you took a stance against Kendrick on some stuff.
And the end of the day, he is still friends with both of them and probably had talks with them, sent the song to them as well. I get your point about certain don't need to be public but this whole thing has been put out for the public. Both what Kendrick and Drake shouldn't be said but here we are. Hence why Cole released this song, sharing his thoughts.
Why is it the hardest thing ever to just appreciate someone helping you. Black people confuse help with handout all the time. That’s why we the last to help each other imo.
Same where is impossible for blank people to acknowledge that Cole had no business involved in this back-and-forth for Drake and Kendrick it was clear that this is not about rap and yet we calling it a rap battle. What the fuck was he gonna rap about when these two are taken shots that are ultimate petty and he had no space for that. He smack Kendrick on some friendly shit then when he seen it was about to get real toxic, he said no I’m good. I’d rather do a feature with you and kill you that way versus beefing with you when I know you, my dog my homeboy it’s really that simple yet we got people that confused this back-and-forth between Drake and Kendrick and think it’s a battle between who’s the better emcee when it’s not it’s a culture battle where basically the culture is saying we’re tired of Drake and all his shit. so until people embrace that this wasn’t the best rapper battle and more culture war we’re not gonna ever get anywhere and you’re gonna have Mal having these terrible takes like he always has when it comes to this outside the fact that he’s right, Drake did have the better music. He did rap better than Kendrick but no matter what Drake did or said he was going to lose cause culture is fed up with drake. It’s that simple.
@@youngboy2140why are you assuming that he would reply to Cole(someone he is seemingly cool with) the same way he would reply to drake(someone he clearly doesn’t like)? Even based on your own assessment of what happened(that it was a culture battle). Do kendrick and Cole not stand on the same side of the culture? So how would kendrick replying to Cole further that notion of what the culture wants instead of being a normal rap battle?
Exactly!!! People conscience be hurting and shit and "now I have to repay the favor", if someone goes out there being goofy and tarnishing his name and brand you are in your own period, anyone thinking that Drake just found out about Dave's Free and Wife beater allegations mid fight you are lying to yourself, after the pusha battle Drake would risk going after K Dot with no ammo? Comon now why would Cole want to be anywhere near that shit considering his brand and legacy so far?
@@Newgodflowhoecole being showing you why he is the best...yall just wanna say he isn't over this moment...to prop somebody who comes out every 4 years
@@kayongofwoloshi693Lmao what jcole album is discussed at one of the top 10 - hell top 20 greatest rap albums of all time? He ain’t got that going for him and proved he ain’t go no Dawg in him and don’t stand for sh*t
💯 they talking about Cole wasn’t some nobody opening act for Drake like bro 😂😂😂 that’s obviously not what he’s getting at when he says this let’s stay on topic please
@@richlava123only when she like that person. It’s a super power a lot of people have. All Mal is sayin is if you jump out there and then say never mind and back into the bushes like Homer, stay your ass in the bushes and hush. Not a difficult concept
@@y2serious321how? We clearly see this wasn’t a battle for best rapper. This shit was a culture war. The culture let Kendrick drop to mid I’m finna swing records, the drop meet the grahams which was terrible, and the n finally dropped a bomb in they not like us. That’s the nigga that won.
@@timy9197 nah they are because none of them are addressing what mall is saying and decide to pick out little words that they don’t like because he’s criticizing Cole and focusing on that and trying to rationalize what Cole even though it’s irrational. you can’t back out of a fight that you threw a punch in and then go oh I didn’t wanna do it because it was going too far then just to turn around and say oh, but I would’ve cooked them if we were fighting and they can’t fuck with me.
@@youngmoneyicet696well I feel like Cole was saying like I don’t care about the battle if I fully participated I would’ve lost a friend (kdot) and even if he threw the first punch let’s say yall in a wrestling match were you throw a punch and then was told “those two are only going below the belt and it’s legal” while you think it’s gon be a straight up fair match? Would you continue after they said that?
@@hbonme7821 one if y’all wrestling, I don’t know why y’all punching in the first place, but whatever.Two if you are real friends they would have respect for each other and wouldn’t fight dirty. Kendrick and Drake aren’t real friends, but they cordial with each other because they’re both friends with J. Cole. Kendrick ain’t saying nothing crazy about J. Cole so cool wouldn’t have nothing to worry about because they not gonna cross that line because they’re actual friends or so we
I don’t get why everyone is against what Mal has said in its entirety, yes he’s pushing it a bit far saying he doesn’t want to hear what Cole thinks, BUT J Cole is still posturing like he’s the best in this song and saying he would have won a beef he has said he wanted no part in, it’s a complete contradiction and sounds fake af, do I have a problem J Cole is saying he didn’t want no part in a clicks and views culture, no, however J Cole dropped a diss saying Kendrick’s discography was overrated and tragic, is that not a part of clicks and views culture? Is that not pushing narratives? Oh so it’s just the extent to which u push narratives that u don’t like, again it’s hypocritical and sounds like he’s just coping with the idea that he backed out. J Cole for years has been saying he’s the best, from ‘album of the year freestyle’, to ‘first person shooter’ where he says he feels like Muhammad Ali, but he didn’t say expect that to get a response? And when it gets a response, u say u couldn’t sleep at night and it wasn’t good for ur soul… Ok then please don’t act like ur about that life then and that your the best in Hip Hop because for generations the best has been decided in the battle, is it toxic? Yes, is it damaging to careers and bad for the peoples mental health? Yes, but that’s what YOU KNEW WOULD BE A FACTOR WHEN YOU SAID U WHERE THE BEST. Overall I don’t have a problem with the song except for the posturing that he could do anything in a battle or that he could be the best or considered the best in the future, he’s exempt from that title and from what J Cole said in this song he doesn’t care what me or anyone else’s opinion on who the best is and he’s free lol, which contradicts his whole bravado before the beef took off.
Btw if someone has a differing opinion and wants to explain it please do, because I don’t get how this new J Cole song or at least the 2nd verse doesn’t come off as coping or as hypocritical to people.
Seriously I'm not sure how they making Mal the bad guy and dancing around Cole's complete lack of accountability - pretending he is trapped in the middle. He needs to stop addressing it.
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 you apologised and then 3 months later you saying the people who participated were doing it for clicks and views, after releasing a song about the beef for clicks and views
He is stuck in the middle he can't even release a song with whoever he wants anymore without it being a topic of discussion lol. That's probably why he dropped the song dues trying to go back to just doing features and ppl connect all his features to the beef or choosing sides. He literally stuck in the situation.
@@relicreturnsthey were this beef benefited the industry more than anything both are in business with one label I mean he is telling the truth because Cole doesn’t give af and always been for the people lol
Mal Is Kinda Right. Cole Did Say He Was The Best, Put Out A Record, It Didnt Hit and Cole U-Turned. Both Sides Could Be Right. Where Mal Went Wrong... 1. Is that he actually agrees with J.Cole and saying he doesnt agree with him.. 2. Mal definitely wouldve AT LEAST asked where J cole at in this if cole didnt say anything. 3. Mal sounds like an unobjective Drake Stan and think that What He Thinks EVERYONE thinks.
@@SupaNatural28 MAL got way too emotional for no reason, and derailed what could've been a great conversation. I had to turn that shit off toward the end because he was so antagonistic towards the end. I usually enjoy when MAL has a point that the other 3 disagree with. This shit was just hard to listen to.
@@Stane686k I gotta explain to u how this beef has affected him and his standing? The blood is the media, largely the media with a bias toward Kendrick or Drake, roasting this man. Lol
OVO Mal made some VALID Points‼️🤨 LOL 😅 The Song was FIRE 🔥💯 It's on Heavy Repeat for me personally, Mal ain't gotta wanna hear it for it to be a DOPE Song... J Cole Snapped On That Track 👑🗣️🔥💯
I'll never respect the apology from a hip hop standpoint, but Cole has been dropping heat between this and the features, as somebody who was running with their own narratives I do appreciate him giving props to Drake on wax, and I know people are going to shit on Mal even though you're primarily tuning in to see his take but he's not 100% wrong in what he's saying
@@caleblawrence7105 he talked about cooking niggas if they tried him on some diss shit regularly. What about that isn’t within his character? Of course the fight went another way but you don’t control how a fight goes, especially once you swing.
@@caleblawrence7105 if being competitive is not in his character, then hip hop may not be for him, at least competing against the top guys, you should have stuck to dissing The Lil pumps of the world I guess lol, but for real at the end of the day he can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean it has to be respected within a certain field, his apology was great if you're into therapy, not if you're into hiphop
I find it incredible that everyone is clinging to the big 3 line but ignore the fact that Cole also said "Everybody steppers, well, fuck it, then everybody breakfast And I'm 'bout to clear up my plate"
Yeah. That ... And more importantly Aubrey says in the same song that it's just him and Cole and he leaves Kendrick out. I don't know why people don't realize that's way more of a shot than anything Cole said.
I can’t see any reality where Cole and Kendrick’s battle being anything more than lyrical banter. That’s why his approach is extreme. It would have been the craziest battle in years. Still a Cole fan.
No matter what you think rap battle will still get disrespectful even if it’s just about bars and I’ve seen no prove of goal willing to get disrespectful as Kendrick got .
@shyne1308 Cole clearly wanted to keep it about bars. That's why he's competing on features. Cole did the same thing when he called out Kendrick and Drake. He tried his best to keep it bars but there were fans attacking Kendrick.
Why you think kendrick didn't want to keep it bars with cole? Cole was doing features with average rappers to shine on. Battle k dot @kennethcampbell1934
i just wanna know how this is kendrick’s biggest moment as a rapper like he’s not the only rapper to win a pulitzer prize?? like i thought that was pretty big idk 😟
@@georgionw6554 Typical OVHOE pea sized brain response, Pultitzer recognizes and celebrates the arts. True Hiphop artists that actually write their lyrics and have love for the craft do appreciate the accolade ❤
Mal is right on this take. Cole has been making a case the last 3 years with all his features as to why he deserves a title shot. On first person he acknowledged the big 3 but said he was number 1. Kenny sent an open invite to Cole and Drake. Cole had everything to gain being as the vast majority of us viewed him as number 3 in the big 3. Drake had everything to lose because at that time he was perceived as 1 and Kendrick was just being a menace. By sending the first diss reply record and then recanting it Cole has forfeited his ability to ever compete for a title. He can still do him and make music which is dope but it’s going to be hard to digest those im the greatest ever bars! As for Drake he lived to fight another day! He took it to round 12 and got knocked out. As for Kenny…. Well he is the fucking boogie man. Not only the best but the best of the best. All we need a is classic album and this guy can ride off in the sunset for another 5 years!
If you are at the basketball court and the king of the court challenges you one on one, is it more G to play him and lose or take your ball and go home? Cole is super soft for this.
Naw its more like you bout to play 21 with two of your friends who kinda don't like each other. You score the first basket. As you walking to the freethrow line, a 4th mutual friend walks up and tells you 'ay, Kenny not here for no friendly game of 21. He bout to air this bitch out.' Now you bout to just keep playing like it's all normal? Or you gone be like 'yo I'm actually good on the basketball game. I'm bout to head out.'
Head Ovulator Mal - “If i take you on tour and put millions in ya pockets” Demaris - “ just cause he look like a bum don’t mean he is. why we acting like he was some soundcloud ass, in the comments spamming his youtube ass rapper who needed the money?” Head Ovulator Mal - “ who talking about money?” lmaoo you can’t make this shit up. 😂 edit: not exact quotes i took creative liberty
@@123Toya456 he’s become so insufferable i can only listen to the pod through these short clips. that ovo check must be something else. his karma ain’t looking so beautiful anymore. 😂
@@wakaman94 Lmaoo, it definitely isn’t. Even these short clips are becoming too much. I want to throw my phone across the room when Mal talks. Let DeMaris lead the convos.. from what I’ve seen she can be objective.
@@123Toya456 yeah him talking over them to not let them make a point is peak petulant child having a tantrum energy. she in particular has been cooking him on this topic for a while.
That’s literally not how that exchange went. He said “who said he NEEDED the money” and she then made a stupid statement about if I’m a Millionaire and someone makes me more millions it doesn’t matter.
Yo - yall just need to tell Mal not to even bother showing up when his pen-pal is the topic of conversation 🥴 This shit is almost unwatchable/unlistenable. I’m always here for heated debates but damn - Mal is so oblivious to what ACTUAL objectivity is. I really rock with Mal, but it’s ashame the pod can’t even properly cover these moments bc Mal has a mental meltdown EVERY SINGLE TIME
This nigga has lost his mind i cant listen to him no more when it comes to an opinion on J Cole this nigga is so delusional and hurt like he drake blood brother 😂
I think Drake knows what Kendrick knows about. But also knows that Kendrick can’t prove what he knows. This is why he has not sued for defamation, because his character has definitely been defamed!!!!!!
Yes Mal is a Drake Stan.His J Cole take is spot on.J Cole is great at sparring.When it comes to a real fight/rap battle.Meaning a friendly fad he runs and hides
I don’t ppl realize Kendrick didn’t take it left until family matters dropped he kept warning Drake “this is a friendly fade you should keep it that way” the Cole battle would have strictly stayed a friendly fade as long as Cole kept it that way
@Thoughtitwasadrought he said family matters is what made it personal though, not pushups. It was a whitney Houston The Bodyguard reference as a rebuttal to Kendricks line about his own bodyguard snatching Drakes chain the next time he sees him. It wasnt a personal bar about his fiance nor was it saying anything negative about her.
@@jlong908 u telling me Drake isn’t smart enough to do a double entendre mentioning Kendrick’s wife? Especially when he mentioned Whitney a bunch of other times after that song. The furthest Kendrick went in euphoria was saying you don’t know nothing bout that.
MAL need to make merch called WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 😂😂😂
That would actually be fire…and on the back “STOP IT”
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Agreed. But Mal actually the only nigga speaking facts
Yep. Seriously!!! He should!!!
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Mal gotta let ppl talk and listen to understand
Usually people who can’t make good arguments try to emotionalize people by yelling or talking over them
Man stfu Im so tired of these niggas intentionally playing contrarian tryna make Mal look crazy. Its almost spineless
That will never happen. He doesn’t have the ability to understand a perspective different from his. If you don’t agree with him, he thinks you’re a clown. It’s exhausting.
He wasn’t trying to listen to understand. He was only sitting through to yell his next (same) point over again.
Cole was clearly pulling his punches on 7min drill tho. He even said it in the song. And you can tell if you took a second to observe real rappers. Kendrick ain’t from w him. Not even a lil bit.
0:52 Rory finally understanding how frustrating it is hearing Mal talk that bullshit 😂
I WOULDVE LOVE TO SEE MAL N JOE IN THE SAME ROOM WHEN THIS RAP BATTLE WAS GOING ON
I swear imagine they did a one time pod special just to argue this beef 😂😂
Unfortunately that won't happen. Mals point about Drake putting money in Coles pocket mirrors what Joe said on his last pod. I put money in niggas pockets let them drive my car and they turn around and call me a thief. Almost certain he was shooting at Mal.
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Shit would’ve been EPIC.
Yo... I don't even know why I clicked in. I regretted it 5s in 😂
Me too 😅😅
Same fml 😂
Facts. Mal killed the whole convo. & i fuck with Mal but I HATE his music takes. I don't think he is qualified in ANY way to talk about music fr. He can talk about whatever he wants to, but his opinion...correction, his feelings...have NO VALIDITY. Like NONE.
Same.
Me Four ... 'bout to dip right after I click send here.
Mal's points were valid and very true and he actually is right -- the issue with him tho is he way too emotionally invested in Drake. Like he got 2 kids by Drake and Drake gives him 50k per month in child support and bought him a house. I don't even think Drake goes as hard for himself as Mal does.....Hell Drake was even trolling himself with some of the things Kendrick said about him, and Mal not even doing this for engagement....He is naturally passionate about Drake even when he tried his best to keep his composure, u can tell the panel is over his emotions, but unfortunately for them, they have to deal with him.
Yea cuz of stupid ass comments like this. It gets infuriating when ngas just say anything, psycho analyzing ngas like you know them saying extra homo sht. You ngas are weird bro and that Drake hate is a fckn Psychosis. I’ve never seen ngas so jealous of a mf in my life
I slick agree with Mal but you gotta hear niggas out bruh. You can’t be insecure about opposing opinions or some shit
@@MarcusJII it’s true but clearly ppl are protecting Cole in this it’s a lot of bias in it .. plus Kendrick wanted to keep it friendly with Drake so you think K dot would’ve played dirty against J.fold .Cole * ?
@@kcslater4840we protecting him because Christ sent him. His only begotten nephew to the pulpits of rap to harness the power of lyricism reaching the highest level known to mankind. So shall it be written. So shall it be done. He give to us “Jermaine Cole” . Protect him at all costs. 💪🏽
Right unfortunately I have to agree 😂
@@kcslater4840 you sound just as dumb as mal
People quick to throw out words like "insecure". Yeah. Mal has a point but you can't act like you're the arbiter of all that's right and true. He does that a lot.
Listening to Mal now makes me think the accounting might have been correct this whole time.
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😂😂😂
Lmfao 😅
for real im glad joe robbed his dumbass now
Lmfaooooooo 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact Mal is the only one in the room who sees it the way he does is a sad reflection of what hip hop has become in 2024…everything Mal says in this video is correct. Cole fired his shot, missed and then ran away, simple as that
💯💯it’s nothing but a popularity contest now. If we like someone we justify whatever they do. If we don’t like someone we shit on them for every little thing. Cornball shit at its finest
Boy, Mal is absolutely exhausting whenever anything Drake is brought up. He even makes some good points here but he's so emotionally invested with Drake he can't help but raise his voice over everybody and cut everybody off whenever they try to speak. He couldn't even let Julian read the lyrics without wildin and yelling. Mal thinks he's Drake's personal attorney on this pod. Emotional ass..
Not personal attorney...he thinks he's Drake's girl..... Baby mama...
He can be exhausting at times but not one time did he lie. The false narrative of pedophilia runs the internet when it concerns Drake, Kendrick took this to new heights yet Drake kept it going. If Cole dropped out cause he knew how it was gonna go that’s crazy. If Cole dropped out cause 7 minute drill was ass, that’s crazy. Mal was spot on. It was time to show Cole was actually top 3 and he didn’t. We moved on to future 😂
Mal is the real life Stan from Eminem’s song.
@@BigBelairePapiyou making good points here
@@BigBelairePapiwhy are y’all mad at Kendrick for running with the pedo narrative like drake didn’t bring it up first before Kendrick even responded, plus let’s not forget drake called him a woman beater (again before Kendrick responded) yet Kendrick’s wild for calling him a pedo when ppl BEEN talking about drake being weird, drakes downfall is bc he’s an arrogant asshole and nothing else
Cole: I walked away with blood on me
Mal: Man shut up, you wasn’t even outside. What blood? 😂😂😂😂😂
Then proceeds to say he shot the gun lmao...
@@lbdyno 😂 he did shoot , y’all must forgot he made the first diss track back to Kendrick lmaoo
😂😂😂😂
He shot and missed, so still no blood, lol
I hate mal’s take 4 real it burns my soul
What cole did is like punching someone in the face then saying sorry and running home. Then when that person moves away you come outside and tell everybody you would have won the fight..
coz he didn't want to cause more harm. He could have won.
You can't prove otherwise, too though.
@@georgionw6554 yoo I know a dude just like this bro . I was the one who got punched in the face 😭😭
You don't even know how dumb this whole comment was. Tf is you on cuz? Dumb mfs are running a muck lmmfao silence@ugoboss6898
That's perfectly said bruh. What makes it worse is Cole been saying due years what he'd do if a mf said his name. Then when it happens, he born again all of a sudden. Corny mf
Except we saw his first punch and it was a swing and a miss.@@ugoboss6898
This beef singlehandedly killed this podcast 😂😂😂
Yet you’re still watching and commenting dawg. Make it make sense
It actually made it more popular
Which is crazy. Julien and Demaris have direct connects within DreamVille. Mal has a personal relationship with Drake and was given inside information directly from him. TDE has had members shoot directly at them online. If anything, they should be KILLING IT right now. But here we are.
It didn’t kill it for me Mal really took a hit for “nonchalant coolness” when he became drakes cheerleader
@@TreyDoeExactly, people just talking
I'm on mals side..the excuses for Cole are unbearable... especially his sly remarks to Kendrick
I like mals point but I know for a fact his reasoning behind it I wouldn’t agree with lol
Lmaooo don’t let these niggas make u not wanna side w mal 😂😂
This!!! He's still lowkey going after Kendrick. This dude is lame.
Kenny lame @@cactusblack5993
Facts same. Y’all make excuses for a nigga apologizing
Cole’s attempt at revisionism is pathetic imo. He was the first to jump out with a full track and now wants to take a moral high ground, the difference is everyone called his track weak.
Port antonio was 🔥
How is he tryna take a moral high ground?
@@TheMackoftheyear the song is good, the sentiment is wack
Yeah I don’t like how Cole is acting like he bowed out due to the depths the beef went to… nobody knew it was gonna go that far when he bowed out
@@Eli-ss9gj exactly
Mal got a valid point.
Where????
How😂
@@RocBoiBaccInTownthat Cole should’ve shut up. This track wasn’t needed. He’s trying to paint himself as the wise man who is above it all when he just pussied out. He released the first proper diss 😂
How!!!!!!!!!! Mal out here talking shit!!!!!
Mal mad that cole let his boy get mopped up😂
No nigga , I love Cole but apologizing is stupid and wack as FUCK
He should just say that
😂😂😂😂 nigga got baby-mama energy this whole segment.
Foh with that! He's just speaking how he feels bro
The goal post moving like a mf
This conversation is a one between emotion and logic.
As much as I HATE Mal’s takes, he’s spot on this. He’s not inserting any hypotheticals, he’s telling EXACTLY what happened. The rest of the crew just has confirmation bias.
Euphoria didn’t drop for a couple weeks before Cole got on that stage and did what he did. He didn’t know where this was headed, the record just didn’t land like he thought it would and knew Dot’s pen was about to show out..
And people keep forgetting “7 minute Drill” came before all of Kendrick’s records.. Instead of showcasing his rap ability and how he had the better bars, he decided to diss Kendrick’s catalog. Not once did he try to prove he was the better “rapper” he just instantly started dissing.
I move with so much discernment and Cole can’t fool me dawg. That man is not who y’all want him to be so bad and he knows Kendrick would’ve exposed that to the world.
He did the same thing with NoName when she called him out as well.
Once people remove their emotion, they’ll clearly see Cole is not built to be the greatest and that’s okay. Take ya L and move along.
Naw. Q warned Cole. That why he dropped out. It's not complicated.
@@denrico777 That’s what he should’ve said from the jump.
That Q told him to drop out. Instead, he got on stage before the show and tried to make it something that it wasn’t talking about “they wanna see bloooood”
Nah, we wanted to hear you back up ya raps of you proclaiming “numero uno” like he had been doing the past 3 years.
And again.. the ball was in Cole’s court with “7 Minute Drill”
Instead of barring Kendrick to death, he decided to start IMMEDIATELY dissing him.
That’s on Cole. It didn’t land like he thought it would and he backed out before Kendrick dropped his records and is trying to make it look like, us as a people, was the reason for him dissing Kendrick instead of just rapping.
Nah Jermaine, take them participation trophy raps home my boy. We do not care.
@@IGotTheNewness no kiss ass these are two of the best comments i’ve read breaking down the facade of cole that i’ve read since the port antonio dropped, and i’ve probably read over 1000 atp. cole has turned out to be in my eyes as fake as drake, just in a different way, and my perception has totally changed about him and I don’t believe or trust a word that come out his mouth anymore. it’s sad cuz I used to fw, not anymore.
@@IGotTheNewnessu should check out “i’m sick of j cole” by the youtuber named “[deleted]” he gives an excellent and thorough breakdown of how fake and spineless jcole really is
Now Kendrick told Cole he was gonna call Drake a pedophile 😂😂😂 the excuses they making for this guy man 😂😂😂😂😂
That was crazy to me too. Men don't even talk like that. Imagine you telling your homie, "You know im bout to call your boy a PDF file," let alone a dude you met through rap.
Right! That's crazy, wtf are they talking about? 😂😂😂😂
@@w.e714 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 fr... *what r we even talking about?* 😂😂
@@jawahncoaxum4662 it’s a fact q told Cole Kendrick was going to say nasty freaky shit about Drake and it was personal and Cole should sit this one out lol also yall act like Cole ain’t been rocking with Kendrick for 15 years
Everyone seems to be coddling Cole.
Not coddling but knowing what we know and How far it went no one is judging because it became more than rapping it became something nastier
I’m actually not mad at Mal’s stance w Cole at all. Rap was literally built off competition & battle culture, & we’ve NEVER seen a rapper double-dutch in & out a rap beef
Cole here to change the culture, smh!
No there’s a difference between competition & brining another man down by making false allegations against him in a rap battle
@@kapoukapoioskapotenah.. he’s called himself Muhammad Ali and was in visuals with drake in a 1v1 with stats. His mission isn’t to change the competitive culture obviously based off action..he got scared. Stop caping for Cole like he some holy knight
@@kapoukapoioskapote clearly lol, we’re in gentler times
@@24klogan86 he literally could’ve kept it strictly bars like he did in 7 minute drill, it wasn’t as deep as folks wanna make it seem. You can’t name one rap battle that didn’t have its share of foul jabs. Whether they were true or not lol
Mal got the most surface level thinking ever. Real remedial, and he contradicts himself every 5 minutes lol. He very much said we needed to hear from Cole during that beef, so the "he shouldnt have put anything out" take is bullshit. Mal was one of the first to say " we gotta hear from Cole"
Yea we wanted to hear Cole diss back, not wave a white flag which is what he did & currently trying to explain why
Facts
@@jonp9300Cole kilt Dot & Dot didn’t respond. I would’ve still responded after that diss if I had any ammo.
@@DashDapper whatever doesn’t align with your opinion is surface level right?
@@chadski100 Get off your knees, nerd
The cop out Cole got from this battle is one nobody would EVER give any other rapper of his caliber
Ohhhh that's a damn good point.
@@Wyndamnimagine the energy we would be giving Drake if he just flat out apologized and said he couldn’t sleep after YEARS OF TELLING US HE ON THE THRONE AND READY TO KILL WHOEVER 😂
I consider Dot not responding a cop out. Cole dropped a great diss. Then moved on. New song’s a classic. That’s why people mad.
@@oophorror2251nobody’s is mad because Cole rapped well, we all know the guy can rap better than most. How is Dot gonna reply to Cole when he apologized a day after he put out the diss 😂😂
@@jawahncoaxum4662Drake last beef song was that
0:39 already an irrational conversation
Mal is telling us how drake feels about port antonio indirectly
Exactly. Idk wtf Jcole is talking about. This is sports, this is competition,this is game 7 of the finals. We just wanted to see you hoop. Then he folded. No one is say Cole is not nice, but in game 7 you got nervous
Yeah but both Kenny n Drake took it way further than just a test of lyrical skills. They both pushed extremely sick narratives in order to win an I’m pretty sure Cole wasn’t willing to take it that personal.
@@caleblawrence7105 so Cole saw the future huh..man these Cole Stans will pretzel themselves to fit a narrative
@@caleblawrence7105 sure but even b4 that started he pulled out. Remember JCole dropped a record. It just didn’t hit, then he got scared.
Im sure Cole has more access to information about the battle and how it was heating up than you do bro. He spoke to Q before bowing out. It's clear he had more information on the battle than you @@rainmaker1169
Only 2 teams in game 7 of the finals. People been waiting for Kendrick vs Drake. J Cole is friends with both. Why are people acting like it would make sense for him to hoop? Against who?
Thank you Mal 🫡
I AGREE FOR ONCE WITH MAL. I NEVER DO BTW. BUT HE COOKED THIS CONVO.
We just wanted to see rappers rap, and j Cole folded.
He just repeated the same shit he been saying since the beef started lol how he cook
Mal is right and I rarely agree with him.
its not healthy to have to fully agree with everyone on everything! it is okay to disagree respectfully
@@Wyndamnnigga this shit was everything but just rap. Fuck are y’all talking about.
Mal isnt lying...
" You wasn't even outside, what blood are you talking about"😂😂😂😂 12:37
Nah he ain't moving the goal post, he's speaking facts this is Hip Hop. It's a contact sport. You bow out then stand on that
Stay on the sidelines and let the real players play.
Nigga Drake bowed out the battle with the "Heart part 6" stfu
That's literally what that record is about lol. He's literally standing on why he backed out.
@@allanallan2171people don’t listen😂
You can't say he speaking facts and this is hip hop when the man u agreeing with says in the same video has a problem with a rapper spitting personal shit which has happened historically in hip hop
Mal the only one holding J Cole accountable for the years of JCole subbing Kendrick/saying he himself is the best rapper in the game and noone can match him just to fold and runaway when it was his time to prove it
When did JCple sub Kendrick?
Facts cole could never be number 1
@@jiggayoshi is it drake k dot or me ?? But right now i feel like mohammid ali.?? Come on just that alone its slick talk.
How can Deake be the best if he keep getting washed when he battles?
Mal can't hold nobody accountable when he is biased and willing to admit it
All the j Cole fans are mad cause people don’t think dropping out of a rap battle and coming back saying ”I would’ve won if I felt like it” is some Fly sh*t 😂😂😂
Since when are we penalizing rappers for being braggadocios? All of em do it and it don't lead to beef. STFU
He never said he would have won anything. Just say you didn’t listen to the record.
@@Violentlyopinionated nigga he pump faked & punked out on a challenge when he been begging for a challenge for years. Thats why he’s “penalized “ lil bro
I’ve been a Cole hate since he tried to rap over Ye and Kast instrumentals. Always mocked him for noting being to write a chorus on 9/10 songs. False Prophets is blasphemous. New song is 3stacks level. Cole don’t care what any of y’all think. He’s clearly moving different. And we all know Dot’s people guilted him into dropping out of the battle. Dot can’t combat a dude that rides a bike while he’s buying 40M$ mansions. In the end, an artists discography is what wins.
J Cole folded like LAUNDRY.
This is the first time in a long time. I’m actually agreeing with mal, they keep for J. Cole so hard it is ridiculous. It’s like it’s flipped mal still occasionally capping for Drake, but they go above and beyond to act like what J. Cole did was fly.
What most of y’all aren’t understanding is what Mal is saying is Cole shot his "gun" missed the nigga, saw KDot pop the switch and load the extendo and aimed it at him and at that moment he decided to preach positivity after shooting at Dot first. Its unacceptable to then try and play the mental health and unity cards😂
Bars!
"Nobody wanna hear that shit..." when literal millions of people are listen and talking about that exact shit😂😂
😂😂😂 facts! Every major hip hop podcast, radio show etc are all talking about this lol
Wishful thinking lmao bro really wish everybody thought like him
..
Facts 😂😂
Nobody trying to hear J Cole. Wait till the fall off album drops. You will see then
Nobody wanna hear that shit. Cole soft
Idk, mal lowkey has a point
Highkey
This is the only time in my life I agreed with Mal lmao as a Kendrick and Cole fan. Like you dissed him, apologized than came back and dissed him in this new song. Either battle bro or don’t pick a a lane
But the song isn’t a diss . Just an expression of what hemos thoughts were about the beef between his two friends
His thoughts***
@@nunitostaymaccin I get that I’m just saying some stuff is better shared between your friends and not made public. Now everyone knows you took a stance against Kendrick on some stuff.
And the end of the day, he is still friends with both of them and probably had talks with them, sent the song to them as well. I get your point about certain don't need to be public but this whole thing has been put out for the public. Both what Kendrick and Drake shouldn't be said but here we are. Hence why Cole released this song, sharing his thoughts.
Cole literally explained why he put the record out and pulled it. Yall just mad for no reason
Mal putting up HOF numbers on talking over people. I mean he could give Vlad a run for his money
😂
He on his Joe shit 😂😂😂😂
I agree with mal, this literally what I was saying to my boy yesterday
8:24 GET HIM BABY D
Why is it the hardest thing ever to just appreciate someone helping you. Black people confuse help with handout all the time. That’s why we the last to help each other imo.
This ain't about Black people . All people do hat
Same where is impossible for blank people to acknowledge that Cole had no business involved in this back-and-forth for Drake and Kendrick it was clear that this is not about rap and yet we calling it a rap battle. What the fuck was he gonna rap about when these two are taken shots that are ultimate petty and he had no space for that. He smack Kendrick on some friendly shit then when he seen it was about to get real toxic, he said no I’m good. I’d rather do a feature with you and kill you that way versus beefing with you when I know you, my dog my homeboy it’s really that simple yet we got people that confused this back-and-forth between Drake and Kendrick and think it’s a battle between who’s the better emcee when it’s not it’s a culture battle where basically the culture is saying we’re tired of Drake and all his shit. so until people embrace that this wasn’t the best rapper battle and more culture war we’re not gonna ever get anywhere and you’re gonna have Mal having these terrible takes like he always has when it comes to this outside the fact that he’s right, Drake did have the better music. He did rap better than Kendrick but no matter what Drake did or said he was going to lose cause culture is fed up with drake. It’s that simple.
It's because if the person people don't like is helping others then nothing they do will be looked at in good faith
@@youngboy2140why are you assuming that he would reply to Cole(someone he is seemingly cool with) the same way he would reply to drake(someone he clearly doesn’t like)?
Even based on your own assessment of what happened(that it was a culture battle). Do kendrick and Cole not stand on the same side of the culture? So how would kendrick replying to Cole further that notion of what the culture wants instead of being a normal rap battle?
Exactly!!! People conscience be hurting and shit and "now I have to repay the favor", if someone goes out there being goofy and tarnishing his name and brand you are in your own period, anyone thinking that Drake just found out about Dave's Free and Wife beater allegations mid fight you are lying to yourself, after the pusha battle Drake would risk going after K Dot with no ammo?
Comon now why would Cole want to be anywhere near that shit considering his brand and legacy so far?
Why is Rory clearly separating Cole from this beef but still giving him the regards of being number 1
To continue to push the Agenda
@@Newgodflowhoecole being showing you why he is the best...yall just wanna say he isn't over this moment...to prop somebody who comes out every 4 years
@@kayongofwoloshi693Lmao what jcole album is discussed at one of the top 10 - hell top 20 greatest rap albums of all time? He ain’t got that going for him and proved he ain’t go no Dawg in him and don’t stand for sh*t
He said number 1 of this year.
Joe Budden Agreeing With Mal Makes This Even Funnier.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's incredible how they're making it about something else now. I know Mal feels like he's in the twilight zone smh I feel bad for him
Agree 💯💯💯
💯 they talking about Cole wasn’t some nobody opening act for Drake like bro 😂😂😂 that’s obviously not what he’s getting at when he says this let’s stay on topic please
Same
Baby D is annoying af she always change what people actually say
@@richlava123only when she like that person. It’s a super power a lot of people have. All Mal is sayin is if you jump out there and then say never mind and back into the bushes like Homer, stay your ass in the bushes and hush. Not a difficult concept
Yo Mal right on this one J Cole took no accountability in this shit.
Accountability for what ?
What?
Kenny stans are mad
@@hyeyeque1 agreed
@@Fitefears throwing rocks and hiding hands
The Drake vs. Kendrick beef was not the biggest moment in Cole's career. Mal is nuts, and he needs to put more respect on his name.
Mal right on this topic. Everybody born after 1984 not gonna understand where Mal coming from.
1989 and I don’t understand how anyone is disagreeing with his position.
I was born in 1990 .. mal right jus not the way he said it 😂😂 I fw it thou.. stand on big box of business 📦
Well at least some of yall have sense lol.
83 here. I approve this message 🫡
1997 and I understand. People just dumb
Mal moving the goal post 😂
The goal post dont exist
@@logangrayy7069 is it weird for the first time I agree with mal 😂😂😂
Stay moving the goal post!
@@y2serious321how? We clearly see this wasn’t a battle for best rapper. This shit was a culture war. The culture let Kendrick drop to mid I’m finna swing records, the drop meet the grahams which was terrible, and the n finally dropped a bomb in they not like us. That’s the nigga that won.
Nah, mal was for the most part right on this one, its rare i agree with dude about anything involving this beef but he was spitting
Mal IS right. Cole is just likeable/relatable by many so they cape for him. Cole flat out pump faking.
Mal is making valid points but yall hate him sooo the comments gonna are be negative
I usually don’t agree with everything he says but on this subject he’s right lol
I don't think anybody hates Mal, you just hate his takes sometimes. Then he's throwing a whole tantrum, not even letting anybody else get a word in.
It is his approach and how he yells at people... it's crazy
Correct!!!!!! Valid points but ain’t nobody listening
Mal can’t win in a room full of Cole stans. Metro Boomin was more Hip Hop than Cole during the beef let that sink in.
They aren’t Cole fans lol y’all need to stop with this “me against the world” narrative every time you don’t get your way
@@timy9197 nah they are because none of them are addressing what mall is saying and decide to pick out little words that they don’t like because he’s criticizing Cole and focusing on that and trying to rationalize what Cole even though it’s irrational. you can’t back out of a fight that you threw a punch in and then go oh I didn’t wanna do it because it was going too far then just to turn around and say oh, but I would’ve cooked them if we were fighting and they can’t fuck with me.
@@youngmoneyicet696If you throw and punch and then you see niggas go pop they trunk, u gotta stay in if u came for a fade?
@@youngmoneyicet696well I feel like Cole was saying like I don’t care about the battle if I fully participated I would’ve lost a friend (kdot) and even if he threw the first punch let’s say yall in a wrestling match were you throw a punch and then was told “those two are only going below the belt and it’s legal” while you think it’s gon be a straight up fair match? Would you continue after they said that?
@@hbonme7821 one if y’all wrestling, I don’t know why y’all punching in the first place, but whatever.Two if you are real friends they would have respect for each other and wouldn’t fight dirty. Kendrick and Drake aren’t real friends, but they cordial with each other because they’re both friends with J. Cole. Kendrick ain’t saying nothing crazy about J. Cole so cool wouldn’t have nothing to worry about because they not gonna cross that line because they’re actual friends or so we
“Y’all niggas ain’t stopping me”
- Cole
I don’t get why everyone is against what Mal has said in its entirety, yes he’s pushing it a bit far saying he doesn’t want to hear what Cole thinks, BUT J Cole is still posturing like he’s the best in this song and saying he would have won a beef he has said he wanted no part in, it’s a complete contradiction and sounds fake af, do I have a problem J Cole is saying he didn’t want no part in a clicks and views culture, no, however J Cole dropped a diss saying Kendrick’s discography was overrated and tragic, is that not a part of clicks and views culture? Is that not pushing narratives? Oh so it’s just the extent to which u push narratives that u don’t like, again it’s hypocritical and sounds like he’s just coping with the idea that he backed out.
J Cole for years has been saying he’s the best, from ‘album of the year freestyle’, to ‘first person shooter’ where he says he feels like Muhammad Ali, but he didn’t say expect that to get a response? And when it gets a response, u say u couldn’t sleep at night and it wasn’t good for ur soul… Ok then please don’t act like ur about that life then and that your the best in Hip Hop because for generations the best has been decided in the battle, is it toxic? Yes, is it damaging to careers and bad for the peoples mental health? Yes, but that’s what YOU KNEW WOULD BE A FACTOR WHEN YOU SAID U WHERE THE BEST.
Overall I don’t have a problem with the song except for the posturing that he could do anything in a battle or that he could be the best or considered the best in the future, he’s exempt from that title and from what J Cole said in this song he doesn’t care what me or anyone else’s opinion on who the best is and he’s free lol, which contradicts his whole bravado before the beef took off.
Btw if someone has a differing opinion and wants to explain it please do, because I don’t get how this new J Cole song or at least the 2nd verse doesn’t come off as coping or as hypocritical to people.
It’s because ppl are predisposed now to not even try to listen to Mal and for some reason, Cole has been coddled through this whole thing.
I mean its confidence in himself. You don’t need people’s opinions to feel yourself
“Now I’m about to start yelling” 😂😂😂 Mals the funniest 40 year old I know
😂😂😂 alongside the ‘’WHAT ARE WE TALKIN ABOUT!??’’
2:20 first time in a long time that I have agreed wit Mal
Ayo mal right on this one nobody don’t want to hear no brovado bars from j Cole no more
Mal LOVES to say “What are we talking about here?”
In every single episode
Mal be like
"Who does that?
Exactly, so what the fuck are we even talking about here?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not to mention he kept the diss song up for his first week numbers so he definitely care about clicks and views.
Facts
Seriously I'm not sure how they making Mal the bad guy and dancing around Cole's complete lack of accountability - pretending he is trapped in the middle. He needs to stop addressing it.
Exactly 💯💯💯 J Cole playing the victim in a battle he helped start.
How do you say someone lacks accountability when they apologize lol 😂
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 you apologised and then 3 months later you saying the people who participated were doing it for clicks and views, after releasing a song about the beef for clicks and views
He is stuck in the middle he can't even release a song with whoever he wants anymore without it being a topic of discussion lol. That's probably why he dropped the song dues trying to go back to just doing features and ppl connect all his features to the beef or choosing sides. He literally stuck in the situation.
@@relicreturnsthey were this beef benefited the industry more than anything both are in business with one label I mean he is telling the truth because Cole doesn’t give af and always been for the people lol
it funny to hear Mal say "i dont believe any of these bars" as he bobs his head to Drake rapping Vorys pen, the irony is comical
4:46 Lmao everybody fed up 😂.
Mal Is Kinda Right. Cole Did Say He Was The Best, Put Out A Record, It Didnt Hit and Cole U-Turned. Both Sides Could Be Right. Where Mal Went Wrong... 1. Is that he actually agrees with J.Cole and saying he doesnt agree with him.. 2. Mal definitely wouldve AT LEAST asked where J cole at in this if cole didnt say anything. 3. Mal sounds like an unobjective Drake Stan and think that What He Thinks EVERYONE thinks.
Record hit for me it’s just opinions
@@SupaNatural28 MAL got way too emotional for no reason, and derailed what could've been a great conversation. I had to turn that shit off toward the end because he was so antagonistic towards the end. I usually enjoy when MAL has a point that the other 3 disagree with. This shit was just hard to listen to.
7 minute drill was a jab and saying “they wanted blood” is because he realized the people wanted the messy battle that ended up happening.
Mal asking "what blood on u" while being the metaphorical blood on Cole this whole video is hilarious
How is mal the metaphorical blood? I think you missed it
Explain
Mal and everyone who picked a side and has a critical opinion of any of these 3 is the blood.
@@Hooperd2023 can’t even criticize rappers now. Wow
@@Stane686k I gotta explain to u how this beef has affected him and his standing? The blood is the media, largely the media with a bias toward Kendrick or Drake, roasting this man. Lol
Don't know what's gotten into you guys but you have been podding at a very high level lately and killing it. Keep it up!!
OVO Mal made some VALID Points‼️🤨 LOL 😅 The Song was FIRE 🔥💯 It's on Heavy Repeat for me personally, Mal ain't gotta wanna hear it for it to be a DOPE Song... J Cole Snapped On That Track 👑🗣️🔥💯
I'll never respect the apology from a hip hop standpoint, but Cole has been dropping heat between this and the features, as somebody who was running with their own narratives I do appreciate him giving props to Drake on wax, and I know people are going to shit on Mal even though you're primarily tuning in to see his take but he's not 100% wrong in what he's saying
God forbid a man does something that he felt was not in line with his character and apologizes for it 😂😂
@@caleblawrence7105 he talked about cooking niggas if they tried him on some diss shit regularly. What about that isn’t within his character?
Of course the fight went another way but you don’t control how a fight goes, especially once you swing.
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@@caleblawrence7105 if being competitive is not in his character, then hip hop may not be for him, at least competing against the top guys, you should have stuck to dissing The Lil pumps of the world I guess lol, but for real at the end of the day he can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean it has to be respected within a certain field, his apology was great if you're into therapy, not if you're into hiphop
You are just a Drake fan lol 😂
Mal is literally right!
Mal ACTUALLY has a good take so far on Cole. I see tons of Colies are butthurt in comments strong.
Watching Mal Living up to His mentor Joey Budden’s teachings is CRAZY😂
I’m with Mal on this one!
I actually agree with mal on this one lmao crazy to say
Mal needs MORE therapy. (He's right about J. Cole not having another title ever)
I find it incredible that everyone is clinging to the big 3 line but ignore the fact that Cole also said "Everybody steppers, well, fuck it, then everybody breakfast
And I'm 'bout to clear up my plate"
Yeah. That ... And more importantly Aubrey says in the same song that it's just him and Cole and he leaves Kendrick out. I don't know why people don't realize that's way more of a shot than anything Cole said.
I agree with Mal, - we not trying to hear that Cole, nah!
I can’t see any reality where Cole and Kendrick’s battle being anything more than lyrical banter. That’s why his approach is extreme. It would have been the craziest battle in years. Still a Cole fan.
Cole just ain't got that dog in him like k dot does. Cole been talking like nobody wanted it with him then folded
No matter what you think rap battle will still get disrespectful even if it’s just about bars and I’ve seen no prove of goal willing to get disrespectful as Kendrick got .
@shyne1308 Cole clearly wanted to keep it about bars. That's why he's competing on features. Cole did the same thing when he called out Kendrick and Drake. He tried his best to keep it bars but there were fans attacking Kendrick.
Why you think kendrick didn't want to keep it bars with cole? Cole was doing features with average rappers to shine on. Battle k dot @kennethcampbell1934
Cole was disrespectful in 7 minute drill, what are u talking about? He threw a punch and ran lol scared of k dot lol @JanetAfi-gj9bk
3:18 he can say that so easily about cole but cant fathom how everyone is saying that about the Canadian lol
The Canadian, you 🤡 s need to stop hiding behind your PC and come to Toronto with the same energy....Please do.
They can’t imitate this violence
@@truth1tellerstfu. You being more of a keyboard warrior with this bullshit ass comment.
i just wanna know how this is kendrick’s biggest moment as a rapper like he’s not the only rapper to win a pulitzer prize?? like i thought that was pretty big idk 😟
A pulitzer prize means absolutely nothing in rap.
@@georgionw6554 Typical OVHOE pea sized brain response, Pultitzer recognizes and celebrates the arts. True Hiphop artists that actually write their lyrics and have love for the craft do appreciate the accolade ❤
Mal continously points out that kendrick shit on coles bar bout the big 3 but that whole fuckin verse is directed at DRAKE SPECIFICALLY. 😂😂😂
Mal is right on this take. Cole has been making a case the last 3 years with all his features as to why he deserves a title shot. On first person he acknowledged the big 3 but said he was number 1.
Kenny sent an open invite to Cole and Drake.
Cole had everything to gain being as the vast majority of us viewed him as number 3 in the big 3. Drake had everything to lose because at that time he was perceived as 1 and Kendrick was just being a menace.
By sending the first diss reply record and then recanting it Cole has forfeited his ability to ever compete for a title. He can still do him and make music which is dope but it’s going to be hard to digest those im the greatest ever bars!
As for Drake he lived to fight another day! He took it to round 12 and got knocked out.
As for Kenny…. Well he is the fucking boogie man. Not only the best but the best of the best.
All we need a is classic album and this guy can ride off in the sunset for another 5 years!
Mal whole energy is HILARIOUS bro 😂 he gotta be trolling 💀
When you listen to Mal you would’ve thought he was involved in this whole battle this whole time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #TheBigFour
Talk to em Mal!
If you are at the basketball court and the king of the court challenges you one on one, is it more G to play him and lose or take your ball and go home? Cole is super soft for this.
Naw its more like you bout to play 21 with two of your friends who kinda don't like each other. You score the first basket. As you walking to the freethrow line, a 4th mutual friend walks up and tells you 'ay, Kenny not here for no friendly game of 21. He bout to air this bitch out.'
Now you bout to just keep playing like it's all normal? Or you gone be like 'yo I'm actually good on the basketball game. I'm bout to head out.'
@@denrico777 lol sounds bish made, stand 10 toes down n go down like a real king
they will never make me hate you mal
Good I can hate him enough for us all😊
Mal is right
Head Ovulator Mal - “If i take you on tour and put millions in ya pockets”
Demaris - “ just cause he look like a bum don’t mean he is. why we acting like he was some soundcloud ass, in the comments spamming his youtube ass rapper who needed the money?”
Head Ovulator Mal - “ who talking about money?”
lmaoo you can’t make this shit up. 😂
edit: not exact quotes i took creative liberty
@@wakaman94 FACTS! Mal is exhausting!! I liked him better when he didn’t talk.
@@123Toya456 he’s become so insufferable i can only listen to the pod through these short clips. that ovo check must be something else.
his karma ain’t looking so beautiful anymore. 😂
@@wakaman94 Lmaoo, it definitely isn’t.
Even these short clips are becoming too much. I want to throw my phone across the room when Mal talks. Let DeMaris lead the convos.. from what I’ve seen she can be objective.
@@123Toya456 yeah him talking over them to not let them make a point is peak petulant child having a tantrum energy. she in particular has been cooking him on this topic for a while.
That’s literally not how that exchange went.
He said “who said he NEEDED the money”
and she then made a stupid statement about if I’m a Millionaire and someone makes me more millions it doesn’t matter.
7:21 FACTS ! J. Fold can never wear that title or be in the runnings for it ever again .
J. Fold 😂
I know one thing, Drake better now ever say anything bad or flagrant about Mal. His loyalty to Drizzy is A1💯
Yo - yall just need to tell Mal not to even bother showing up when his pen-pal is the topic of conversation 🥴
This shit is almost unwatchable/unlistenable. I’m always here for heated debates but damn - Mal is so oblivious to what ACTUAL objectivity is. I really rock with Mal, but it’s ashame the pod can’t even properly cover these moments bc Mal has a mental meltdown EVERY SINGLE TIME
It’s irritating! This fool doesn’t listen at all.. he just waits for you to stop talking so he can continue his bs.
6:16 wtf is wrong with Mal
This nigga has lost his mind i cant listen to him no more when it comes to an opinion on J Cole this nigga is so delusional and hurt like he drake blood brother 😂
😂😂😂"u were not even outside "
i’m not watching until the full episode but judging by the the thumbnail mal was fully standing on business lol
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Mals right 3:48 ....
Yea he has a point
That man has no point 😂😂
I think Drake knows what Kendrick knows about. But also knows that Kendrick can’t prove what he knows. This is why he has not sued for defamation, because his character has definitely been defamed!!!!!!
Mal wouldn't even let anybody talk
Because all they ever do is rebut him with stupid arguments.
WHAT ARE WE TALKIN BOUT need that on a shirtjskdhdksj
Yes Mal is a Drake Stan.His J Cole take is spot on.J Cole is great at sparring.When it comes to a real fight/rap battle.Meaning a friendly fad he runs and hides
'He went another way' is sick!
I don’t ppl realize Kendrick didn’t take it left until family matters dropped he kept warning Drake “this is a friendly fade you should keep it that way” the Cole battle would have strictly stayed a friendly fade as long as Cole kept it that way
Cap, he called him a deadbeat dad first.
@@jlong908that’s not taking it far and that’s after he mentioned his wife’s name in a song gtfo
@Thoughtitwasadrought he said family matters is what made it personal though, not pushups. It was a whitney Houston The Bodyguard reference as a rebuttal to Kendricks line about his own bodyguard snatching Drakes chain the next time he sees him. It wasnt a personal bar about his fiance nor was it saying anything negative about her.
@@jlong908 u telling me Drake isn’t smart enough to do a double entendre mentioning Kendrick’s wife? Especially when he mentioned Whitney a bunch of other times after that song. The furthest Kendrick went in euphoria was saying you don’t know nothing bout that.
@@Thoughtitwasadrought These drake dick eaters are slow bruh, their king got his ass whooped and they want to blame cole