20 years ago, someone at Sundance put too much powder in one of the howitzers and launched a shell up over Timpanogos and blew up our neighbor's backyard in PG. It was right next to our bus stop where several of us had got off just a few minutes earlier. I went back later and there shrapnel holes in the wood fence...
Wrong. US Army artillery (post Korean War) shells (unlike tank shells) do not come “pre-loaded” and are not “capped” in the same way a bullet is fixed to a brass cartridge. The gun powder for the artillery round have various and graduated “increments” (cloth bags) of gun powder. The number of “increments” (charge size/gun powder amount) can be adjusted from a “full charge” (all increments/max gun powder) to a reduced charge of at least 3 to 4 different amounts. The force of the charge propelling the “round” out the barrel can be adjusted by using different “charges.” The cause of the “over shot” in the OP could have been due to to high of a “quadrant” (angle up/down) OR to high of a “charge” (I.e. firing solution calls for a “charge 3” (take away 2 increments from the 5 total) and instead of removing 2 increments as the firing solution calls for a “full charge” (all increments) is used resulting in a increased muzzle velocity and increased range. In the OP I’d expect the “quadrant” (angle up/down) was correct but the wrong charge (too much gun powder) was loaded resulting in an overshot. (13B Gunner M198 155m howitzer 9 years)
@@stephen9324 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 105mm Howitzer shown in this video, as well as probably used in many avalanche mitigation does indeed come in a fully contained shell/cartridge. I don't think the 105 uses cloth bags of powders in most, if not all situations. And I find it hard to believe that avalanche mitigation would use 155mm howitzer projectiles like you are used to with the cloth bags. I would be interested to see if anyone uses larger than 105mm. That would be a big BOOM! 😄
They dont use 105. They use 75mm guns for avalanche mitigation. They aimed too high and overshot the mountain and a shell landed in someone's back yard. I remember seeing the story on ksl news.
Government Efficiency.......Why spend just a Few hundred bucks on ammo when you can spend 10's of thousands (or more) on Installation and maintenance of a "system" that can't move to where the problem is.
@ejohnson3131 - My first question was how are they keeping this guarded 24/7? If terrorists could coordinate flying two commercial jetliners into The Twin Towers, one into the Pentagon and the hijacking of the fourth aircraft, I would think stealing these explosives would be a plausible probability. But then again, fertilizer is more readily available and legal to obtain.
I lived in Alta at the Snowpine for a couple seasons in the early 2000s, woke up to the Howitzer rounds going overhead. Quite a place, sad to see it change.
When I first arrived Alta 1972 to work at the Rustler Lodge next to Snowpine, I was rudely woken up with a freaking bomb going off .. nearly fell out of bed as no clue! 😂
I'm curious how the types of explosives have changed. One of those explosions left behind an orange cloud, which makes me think it might have been tannerite, or a similar compound. But other explosives had different signatures. It would also be neat to see more from behind the scenes of how the weight, yield, etc. of the specific charge is chosen for the area.
I remember when Snowbird was young. An artillery round was fired to Peruvian Ridge from Snowbird. They aimed a little high and the round went through the Alta Collins lift top station and made a perfect hit on Alta's Sunspot run. No more shooting when there was cloud covering the line of sight.
@@KyleOdom-t7s @birdness 2 weeks ago 20 years ago, someone at Sundance put too much powder in one of the howitzers and launched a shell up over Timpanogos and blew up our neighbor's backyard in PG. It was right next to our bus stop where several of us had got off just a few minutes earlier. I went back later and there shrapnel holes in the wood fence...
As a Wasatch local, I am curious to know what led specifically the military to intervene in ending the use of howitzers on the mountains. Because of what is replacing it, I can't imagine it was either a noise or public safety issue, but perhaps I am not accounting for everything.
It's come a long way. A brother of a friend of the family was killed back in the 60s doing this.. Back then they literally had a timer on dynamite that they would throw by hand as they skied through dangerous areas. There was a bunch of defective timers and I think several guys where killed when they set them.
I worked up at Snowbird at the Golden Cliff Restaurant in the Cliff Lodge in the mid 70's. Whenever we'd get snowed in and had to work breakfast the howitzers were the "alarm clock". Starting about 5:00 am, KA-BOOM! "Okay okay I'm up! I'm up!" Sad to see them go! 😕
These things are effective but gosh they’re ugly!!! Something like 17 new towers on the superior ridge-line this last summer. Hideous. Baldy at Alta used to be a pretty mountain. Now it looks like one massive antennae after another with UFO looking pods. Love the concept, wish they could be designed more discreetly.
Probably safer than howitzer but definitely much costly in terms of deployment and maintenance (refill explosives) and absolutely less flexible. But yes, looks very nice for video.
I believe these new avalanche technologies are critical for paving the way for LCC Gondola due to shrapnel concerns associated with the howitzer shells.
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.
Using acetylene gas instead of propane might produce better results... see YT vids re vortex cannons used for New years Eve celebrations in the Netherlands... all perfectly legal... far more power in acetylene.
a civilian could use these charges to do harm far easier than an artillery shell. Policies are mostly made by someone trying to climb a ladder to gain higher status in life.
some dual 24 inch subs in the proper box could send out a wave of sound hard enough to set off an avalanche or make rotary subs that can hit 1db and really make the mountains shake. explosives are not the only way to make a pressure wave.
It's physics. You'd need the dB spl to be at close range & have the same effect as an explosive. My guess is that your tiny 24" subs are going to be toast well before any snow moves.
this is so sick, and I'm totally down for the quicker terrain openings and more safety for ski patrol, but I just see some problems. For one, jobs in the ski industry are already sparse enough, and a HUGE part of being a patroller out west is running routes and doing mitigation. So yeah... the mission used to take 5 dudes and 5 hours but at least those 5 dudes were getting PAID to do that and it's their passion. Not to mention, it looks horribly ugly to have those snowgun looking towers all over some of the most beautiful terrain that has never had anything but a ski lift ruining its look.
Love ❤ seeing all the latest since my days here in the 70's ... when Bixie & Jim Head were Snow Rangers ... and when I worked at Alta Central communications for the canyon ... does it still exist? Used to ski with Dave Richards dad, Courtney ... and so grateful I had Alta & Snowbird no-tech not so crowded old days ... mahalos 🌺 for excellent video!
anyone familiar with how the last device works? In Tahoe where I ski they use the Gazex which requires flying propane tanks up before the start off the winter season.
It's the first RAC system manufactured in North America with input from transportation and ski area avalanche programs to meet the needs of North American clientele. While it is similar in end result to MND's Gazex system, the way it moves gas to the detonation chamber is different.
The Boom Whoosh can run gas uphill up to 1km. This eliminates the need for helicopters for reloads in all but a handful of locations. This allows for placement of the gas control buildings at snow cat, or truck accessible locations.
One thing that they didn't explain is that howitzer shell explode once they penetrate into the snowpack. But the snowpack then acts as a muffle, limiting the force and spread of the explosion. The newer methods all explode above the snowpack, making the explosion far more effective with a wider impact.
Thank You to all those who make this happen, keeping us safe. Please Assess Mitigate Reassess until probability is significantly reduced. Trails should be kept closed and inaccessible with barriers and signs until then. Maybe in time the Navy will let us use their ultra-sonic devices to mitigate avy danger. No sound except for the drone. It shouldn't cause environmental damage like carbon deposits.
@@mikeniedert5834 I think it's more about the environmental impact. While it might sound absurd, military actually thinks really hard where they drop their bombs in training and during peace time in general. Explosives damage the mountains in a permanent way, eroding away the rock. It probably also takes away resources from the military, someone in there is responsible/accountable for the munitions. Just guessing of course.
@@mikeniedert5834they’re leased from the U.S. military, but the reason in particular the military wants them to stop using them is they’re ww2 surplus, and better and safer means are available so why take the liability?
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If the explosives are extremely effective, but installing towers and reloading with helicopters is costly... well okay, I understand that using industrial-strength quadcopters to deliver explosive payloads sounds bad, but couldn't a drone just bring the payload to any spot desired, deploy it, and then fly back to base? It seems like the sweet spot of effectiveness and affordability. If you can convince the FAA.
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So the DoD doesn't want people using WW2 era explosive delivery systems and as a result people develop new delivery systems using 2020's tech? If this was being designed today, I'd guess that a drone would be used to deliver those payloads. (If anyone needs some expertise in how to do that, there's some people north of the black sea who would likely be happy to contract for the R&D and training.)
Won’t be long they’ll have drones that can carry enough payload to do the job. Fly it in drop the charge or charges. Fly home in time to watch lost in space. 🙂
Snowbird was my favorite place on earth until they priced me out. I can't afford to go up there anymore, even though I live about 20 minutes away. Sad.
So stupid. What was the military (I'm a vet) complaint?! That you were going to run off with the howitzer?! So many other options to remedy their concerns.... (Fixing the mount/taking the carriage away, etc) I would have gotten your Utah CODEL involved and told the military to minds it's own business.
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.
03:08 has me questioning their necessity. Seeing avalanches 'where you've never seen avalanches before' is a nod to efficacy but I'm guessing the costs outweigh the benefits here.
Ever wondered if people were not there, and we let the 8k+ tall mountains keep the snow. That the snow being held up higher is a good thing for the environment?
If the snow stayed up there on the mountain, there'd be no need to do any of this. These slides will happen and often as bigger, more destructive slides, without human assistance. Bringibg them down when the snow accumulation is low and knowing the mountain has shed its snow liad makes it safe(r) for people working and recreating below.
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.
"rest assured, you'll still wake up to explosives in the mountains" 😆
Anything that gets the goods opened earlier and safely is fantastic.
Best comment ever! Boom 💥
@@cbam4517 except they don't whistle as they go overhead.
Man, getting to use a howitzer was probably one of the big perks of that job. Tell those military folks they’re being party poopers. 😊
The amount of work taking those things away caused, I'm sure these guys would be talking differently off air.
Too much war going on for peacetime arty. Nice to see new ideas born of it.
More like Paranoid about who has access to large Rifles.
thanks for documenting this and thanks to the avalanche mitigation teams
This production was incredible! Thank you for all the hard work that goes into making it safer for us to ski.
20 years ago, someone at Sundance put too much powder in one of the howitzers and launched a shell up over Timpanogos and blew up our neighbor's backyard in PG. It was right next to our bus stop where several of us had got off just a few minutes earlier. I went back later and there shrapnel holes in the wood fence...
This is bullshit. Howitzer ammunition is not loaded by the users firing it.
That’s not how shells work. They come pre loaded with the cap. More likely they aimed to high.
Wrong. US Army artillery (post Korean War) shells (unlike tank shells) do not come “pre-loaded” and are not “capped” in the same way a bullet is fixed to a brass cartridge. The gun powder for the artillery round have various and graduated “increments” (cloth bags) of gun powder. The number of “increments” (charge size/gun powder amount) can be adjusted from a “full charge” (all increments/max gun powder) to a reduced charge of at least 3 to 4 different amounts. The force of the charge propelling the “round” out the barrel can be adjusted by using different “charges.” The cause of the “over shot” in the OP could have been due to to high of a “quadrant” (angle up/down) OR to high of a “charge” (I.e. firing solution calls for a “charge 3” (take away 2 increments from the 5 total) and instead of removing 2 increments as the firing solution calls for a “full charge” (all increments) is used resulting in a increased muzzle velocity and increased range. In the OP I’d expect the “quadrant” (angle up/down) was correct but the wrong charge (too much gun powder) was loaded resulting in an overshot. (13B Gunner M198 155m howitzer 9 years)
@@stephen9324 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 105mm Howitzer shown in this video, as well as probably used in many avalanche mitigation does indeed come in a fully contained shell/cartridge. I don't think the 105 uses cloth bags of powders in most, if not all situations. And I find it hard to believe that avalanche mitigation would use 155mm howitzer projectiles like you are used to with the cloth bags. I would be interested to see if anyone uses larger than 105mm. That would be a big BOOM! 😄
They dont use 105. They use 75mm guns for avalanche mitigation.
They aimed too high and overshot the mountain and a shell landed in someone's back yard. I remember seeing the story on ksl news.
The production value of this video was amazing, I want more!
I wish they would’ve talked more about why the military had concerns all of a sudden about using military artillery for avalanche control.
I assumed its because we promised Ukraine a lot of ordinance and the military wants to provide as much of the promised ammo as possible.
Government Efficiency.......Why spend just a Few hundred bucks on ammo when you can spend 10's of thousands (or more) on Installation and maintenance of a "system" that can't move to where the problem is.
@ejohnson3131 - My first question was how are they keeping this guarded 24/7?
If terrorists could coordinate flying two commercial jetliners into The Twin Towers, one into the Pentagon and the hijacking of the fourth aircraft, I would think stealing these explosives would be a plausible probability. But then again, fertilizer is more readily available and legal to obtain.
I live 1700 miles from Utah and don't know how to ski, yet here I am watching this. You're a weird one RUclips.
True 🌀❄️🏔️
Absolutely GORGEOUS videgraphy!
I lived in Alta at the Snowpine for a couple seasons in the early 2000s, woke up to the Howitzer rounds going overhead. Quite a place, sad to see it change.
fuckin rich people
When I first arrived Alta 1972 to work at the Rustler Lodge next to Snowpine, I was rudely woken up with a freaking bomb going off .. nearly fell out of bed as no clue! 😂
Awesome to see technology being used to help keep patrollers safe and make the work more effective!
seems like more expense and less capability, also arguably lower tech.
Lame! Save the Howitzers!!
They could use cannons also?
ngl the howitzers seemed like a way better option than those fixed things.
Awesome - great work Lexi
I'm curious how the types of explosives have changed. One of those explosions left behind an orange cloud, which makes me think it might have been tannerite, or a similar compound. But other explosives had different signatures. It would also be neat to see more from behind the scenes of how the weight, yield, etc. of the specific charge is chosen for the area.
That's a little more red tape than we were prepared to handle in the creation of this film 😉
The FBI would like a word...
@@kapowder Oh, certainly, it's likely information I'd only be able to learn if I actually became a technician 😂
The orange smoke is more than likely from ammonium nitrate.
@@josiahsimmons9866 i mean its not hard to find documentation on explosives all over. making them is the hard part without killing yourself lol.
I remember when Snowbird was young. An artillery round was fired to Peruvian Ridge from Snowbird. They aimed a little high and the round went through the Alta Collins lift top station and made a perfect hit on Alta's Sunspot run. No more shooting when there was cloud covering the line of sight.
When I worked at the Co Gen plant I was told by my boss that a Round landed in someone's backyard.
@@KyleOdom-t7s
@birdness
2 weeks ago
20 years ago, someone at Sundance put too much powder in one of the howitzers and launched a shell up over Timpanogos and blew up our neighbor's backyard in PG. It was right next to our bus stop where several of us had got off just a few minutes earlier. I went back later and there shrapnel holes in the wood fence...
5:35. My favorite part of this whole video. Drone weaving through an avalanche
Hey! that was me!
@WorthyPOV dope :D
@@WorthyPOV Great shot!
Super cool evolution of the process, gotta say though nothing will ever be able to top firing artillery at it.
As a Wasatch local, I am curious to know what led specifically the military to intervene in ending the use of howitzers on the mountains. Because of what is replacing it, I can't imagine it was either a noise or public safety issue, but perhaps I am not accounting for everything.
Very cool to see this! Great work!
very interesting! thanks you guys for documenting this!
Living in Aspen I love hearing the sound of avalanche mitigation on highlands.
I feel a drone with a string would have been cheeper/more effective.
Its not about 'feeling', needs to be scientific, precise.
That’s why you don’t work there.
It's come a long way. A brother of a friend of the family was killed back in the 60s doing this.. Back then they literally had a timer on dynamite that they would throw by hand as they skied through dangerous areas. There was a bunch of defective timers and I think several guys where killed when they set them.
Thats terrible! Sorry for your loss.
I worked up at Snowbird at the Golden Cliff Restaurant in the Cliff Lodge in the mid 70's. Whenever we'd get snowed in and had to work breakfast the howitzers were the "alarm clock". Starting about 5:00 am, KA-BOOM! "Okay okay I'm up! I'm up!" Sad to see them go! 😕
The dude at the end literally said you'll still hear explosions. They just aren't firing howitzers at the mountain anymore.
🤔 Really interesting and Epic shots 😳 Great job 👌🏻🔥
That’s beautiful footage of a slide great lighting on Snowbird
These things are effective but gosh they’re ugly!!! Something like 17 new towers on the superior ridge-line this last summer. Hideous. Baldy at Alta used to be a pretty mountain. Now it looks like one massive antennae after another with UFO looking pods. Love the concept, wish they could be designed more discreetly.
They did, it was a single point artillery canon. Forwards is often backwards.
Yeah they should just use drones or something...I agree about the looks being ugly. It's like wind turbines on a beautiful natural ridge
seems like more expense and less capability, also arguably lower tech.
@@superdriver777Wind turbines sre beautiful because of their pollution-free function. Learn to Appreciate it!
Probably safer than howitzer but definitely much costly in terms of deployment and maintenance (refill explosives) and absolutely less flexible. But yes, looks very nice for video.
I believe these new avalanche technologies are critical for paving the way for LCC Gondola due to shrapnel concerns associated with the howitzer shells.
Boom whoosh didn’t seem to cause avalanche….
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.
Using acetylene gas instead of propane might produce better results...
see YT vids re vortex cannons used for New years Eve celebrations in the Netherlands...
all perfectly legal...
far more power in acetylene.
a civilian could use these charges to do harm far easier than an artillery shell. Policies are mostly made by someone trying to climb a ladder to gain higher status in life.
ugh i totally forgot about Solitude! Such an amazing resort
I have one of the shells from Snowbird. Got a wooden crate too.
great to know. safe is most important
some dual 24 inch subs in the proper box could send out a wave of sound hard enough to set off an avalanche or make rotary subs that can hit 1db and really make the mountains shake. explosives are not the only way to make a pressure wave.
It's physics. You'd need the dB spl to be at close range & have the same effect as an explosive. My guess is that your tiny 24" subs are going to be toast well before any snow moves.
@@misterfunnybones the physics would work if you played some bangin Jeezy tracks
Save for what, Lent? They're surplus; let em rip!
this is so sick, and I'm totally down for the quicker terrain openings and more safety for ski patrol, but I just see some problems. For one, jobs in the ski industry are already sparse enough, and a HUGE part of being a patroller out west is running routes and doing mitigation. So yeah... the mission used to take 5 dudes and 5 hours but at least those 5 dudes were getting PAID to do that and it's their passion. Not to mention, it looks horribly ugly to have those snowgun looking towers all over some of the most beautiful terrain that has never had anything but a ski lift ruining its look.
Great video 🙌👍👌😀🍀🙏🇭🇷
Very smart sistem!
The snow is under attack , it will evolve...
ha! Good 1!
A very common thing here in Austria for a few decades now.
I would have liked to hear the bang.
More of a boom, but awesome!
I miss the old methods... how about the ice rod out of the tram... love you Duck!
Fpv drones seem like they would be cheaper and more precise.
The military might have various concerns with that
end up with a lot of plastic everywhere
Love ❤ seeing all the latest since my days here in the 70's ... when Bixie & Jim Head were Snow Rangers ... and when I worked at Alta Central communications for the canyon ... does it still exist? Used to ski with Dave Richards dad, Courtney ... and so grateful I had Alta & Snowbird no-tech not so crowded old days ... mahalos 🌺 for excellent video!
anyone familiar with how the last device works? In Tahoe where I ski they use the Gazex which requires flying propane tanks up before the start off the winter season.
It's the first RAC system manufactured in North America with input from transportation and ski area avalanche programs to meet the needs of North American clientele. While it is similar in end result to MND's Gazex system, the way it moves gas to the detonation chamber is different.
The Boom Whoosh can run gas uphill up to 1km. This eliminates the need for helicopters for reloads in all but a handful of locations. This allows for placement of the gas control buildings at snow cat, or truck accessible locations.
Great info! Unneccessarily loud 'angry' sounding music is distracting from the narratrion & creates too much tension!
Please dial it back!
One thing that they didn't explain is that howitzer shell explode once they penetrate into the snowpack. But the snowpack then acts as a muffle, limiting the force and spread of the explosion. The newer methods all explode above the snowpack, making the explosion far more effective with a wider impact.
The howitzers were always super cool to watch at work, but being able to do this remotely is awesome.
I'd argue the howitzers are able to operate remotely while the new versions can't.
Launching the explosives to any remote location you need.
seems like more expense and less capability, also arguably lower tech.
Thank You to all those who make this happen, keeping us safe.
Please Assess Mitigate Reassess until probability is significantly reduced.
Trails should be kept closed and inaccessible with barriers and signs until then.
Maybe in time the Navy will let us use their ultra-sonic devices to mitigate avy danger.
No sound except for the drone. It shouldn't cause environmental damage like carbon deposits.
US are very late on avalanche system. I was use to this system in chamonix valley (France) and heard it every morning when I was teenager in the 90
I am curious... Why is the military wanting to eliminate the use of the old 105mm howitzers?
Looks like they don't want civilians in possession of decent weaponry.
I'm betting they don't want civilians having anything close to what they have.
@@mikeniedert5834 I think it's more about the environmental impact. While it might sound absurd, military actually thinks really hard where they drop their bombs in training and during peace time in general. Explosives damage the mountains in a permanent way, eroding away the rock. It probably also takes away resources from the military, someone in there is responsible/accountable for the munitions. Just guessing of course.
@@mikeniedert5834they’re leased from the U.S. military, but the reason in particular the military wants them to stop using them is they’re ww2 surplus, and better and safer means are available so why take the liability?
@@alamogiftshop They woulda been fine and safe.. Someone was a woosie and caused people to lose a lot of money and time.
This video is featured in TomScott's newsletter 06/01/2025. Cool video :)
BWAH!
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If the explosives are extremely effective, but installing towers and reloading with helicopters is costly... well okay, I understand that using industrial-strength quadcopters to deliver explosive payloads sounds bad, but couldn't a drone just bring the payload to any spot desired, deploy it, and then fly back to base? It seems like the sweet spot of effectiveness and affordability. If you can convince the FAA.
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I’m wondering if anyone has experimented with sound cannons
Vortex cannons....aimed at hail clouds disrupts hail formation.
That last system barely moved any snow.
Sometimes a slope is just not ready to slide..
Fresh cake baby!!
Why not use drones?
Use fpv drone rigged with explosive?
The over music is slightly annoyong
Agreed, except extremely annoying!
Can we get an environmental impact study on this
why did the military want to stop using the cannons? surely they're not short on 105mm shells.
Lift ticket prices should be going up to pay for the newest and greatest. At some point ticket prices will exceed what most are willing to pay.
So the DoD doesn't want people using WW2 era explosive delivery systems and as a result people develop new delivery systems using 2020's tech? If this was being designed today, I'd guess that a drone would be used to deliver those payloads. (If anyone needs some expertise in how to do that, there's some people north of the black sea who would likely be happy to contract for the R&D and training.)
Won’t be long they’ll have drones that can carry enough payload to do the job. Fly it in drop the charge or charges. Fly home in time to watch lost in space. 🙂
this seems restrictive in area and more costly and somewhat of an eye sore too?
why not use those hail cannon things
Drones are the way to go now?
Is there a reason why drones are not used to drop explosives to start avalanches where you want them to occur?
My friend Hannah does avalanche work in Utah, or did. Not sure if she still does.
lets... hope... it works...
Why not just use drones?
Because it snows at ski resorts. Somehow I think a drone avalanche army might get defeated by heavy snow.
Snowbird was my favorite place on earth until they priced me out. I can't afford to go up there anymore, even though I live about 20 minutes away. Sad.
Most ski resorts are full of empty trophy homes. It's a policy choice.
Alta was always my favorite. Still is. I skied Snowbird the first day it was open December 1971. I may still have that ticket.
Why does the military have an issue with continuing to use howitzers?
如果用太阳能电板+空气加压炮，就可以做到0成本运行。只要用5G信号跟踪控制定时加压放炮即可。
solar panels and hydrogen generator.
Why didn't you compare artillery to modern avalanche mitigation?
Grom!
Dont worry guys. Snowbird will still find a way to not open up terrain!
No wonder lift tickets are too expensive
Howitzer still is more bad ass id say
So stupid. What was the military (I'm a vet) complaint?! That you were going to run off with the howitzer?! So many other options to remedy their concerns.... (Fixing the mount/taking the carriage away, etc) I would have gotten your Utah CODEL involved and told the military to minds it's own business.
god. Adobe Poducast Audio enhance sounds so jank.
One step backwards.. A solution ???
Hmm, last one doesn’t appear to work.
See what you do is you get a 5' wide piece of plastic and attach it to the end of a 1000 foot long pole then you push it up the mountain side.
this is so sick! can’t wait for the gondola aswell, hopefully vail resorts buys brighton soon too
No, Azwell is a tiny settlement on Columbia River, flooded by Wells dam in late 60's, in north central WA.state, near orchards where i grew up.
Damn government taking the howitzers, next they'll be after bear spray..
Why wouldn't they use drones?
Notice that wy people never form complete articulate sentences. Smh
Yes, & i hate it! Also lack punctuarion
Boomwoosh didnt do much
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.
To bad they look terrible on the mountain
03:08 has me questioning their necessity. Seeing avalanches 'where you've never seen avalanches before' is a nod to efficacy but I'm guessing the costs outweigh the benefits here.
As visually inconspicuous as feasible should be a major consideration.
I don't think they look any worse than a ski lift sooo
they also seem worse in every conceivable metric.
@@aalecalexander117 exactly! Part of skiing safety
Drones? KIS
172 s 2nd st
Drones anyone?
Drones woulda been cheaper
damn govt got jealous
Ever wondered if people were not there, and we let the 8k+ tall mountains keep the snow. That the snow being held up higher is a good thing for the environment?
If the snow stayed up there on the mountain, there'd be no need to do any of this. These slides will happen and often as bigger, more destructive slides, without human assistance. Bringibg them down when the snow accumulation is low and knowing the mountain has shed its snow liad makes it safe(r) for people working and recreating below.
@@hardrockminer-50 Hence why you should not live so close
@@hardrockminer-50 NAH Yall just greedy as fuck like park shitty
Based on the video, the last device is a dud, no bueno.
So the afternoon we filmed the Boom Woosh, they were performing some tests at Alta Ski Area on the equipment and gathering some precise data and measurements from the device. There had not been new snow in some time and we did not expect any avalanches. The purpose of the test firing was to inform Alta's snow safety team about how it had performed after an entire season of use.