There is a group NEOLS (Northeast Ohio Live Steam) not far from where I live, 20 miles or so, that is pretty impressive, not sure if they have a turntable, but many other things. Funny story a man who had a metal shop in his basement, lathe, Bridgeport etc. lived around the block from me when I was a teen. My buddy and I were trying to build a helium neon gas laser and needed some machined parts to hold mirrors etc. My other friend told me that perhaps the guy with his shop in the basement, Mr. Williams would help us, which he did. Wow, turns out he was a member of NEOLS and had a basement full of wondrous stuff. A locomotive in progress, some heat engines he built from Popular Mechanics and other things I don't remember. I was in awe. He passed quite a few years ago. When I worked at Goodyear Aerospace I worked next to his son-in-law, which I found out when he (son-in-law) asked me if I was interested in trains, I said yes, and as we were talking I discovered his father-in-law was the one that made parts for the laser project when I was a teen. Small world! Here is a link to a lot of pics and vids of NEOLS club meets. neols.net/photosandvideos.php
I don't really have the skill either but I'm learning how to do the stuff. There are even books that tell you how to do everything. Look up "Building the Pennsylvania A3" by Kozo Hiraoka. That book practically holds your hand and shows you step by step how to build a working steam engine.
Lovely loco, making up a sweet little train, on an incredibile set of tracks, at a beautiful location, with fantastic vistas and postcard scenery, on a wonderful bit of property. Hey, what more could you ask for! Great vid.
@ minecraftineer they put the counterweights outside of the frame because D&RGW wanted to use a large boiler design to pull freight over the mountains. the only way to fit the boiler on the locomotive was to put the counterweights on the outside. the cylinders would have gotten in the way of the boiler and would make the engine too top heavy so so they kept the boiler low to the ground to keep the center of gravity.
I noticed @ 8:29 there is a Colorado and Southern engine sitting in the round house. I assume that is a visiting engine? And if so is there any videos of it running?
That is a beautiful Rio Grande K-27, but I did notice one thing, It looks like he ran that switch a 4:52. Are those harp switches like spring switches?
The switches on this railroad are all return-sprung so you can run through them regardless of setting. Most live steam railroad switches are built that way, especially return-loop switches for dog-bone style layouts.
How come that turntable at the steaming bays turned so well? The turntable at GGLS is the same design(caster on strip of concrete), but it gets jammed a lot.
Seems it would be pretty cool to have a 19 inch gauge live steam ride on train based off a Pere Marquette 1225. It's my favorite steam train, and it uses a 4-8-4 set up.
thanks very much for the reply. I think the company you are refering to is in Melbourne they no longer supply char for steam clubs.they now bag into 5kg bags and sell it as heat beads. they make more money that way. I took a trip to Kooragang only last week we bought a 800kg bag for our club.no where near as good as the Melbourne stuff. it dosnt burn hot enough. we are struggling to get above 60psi.may have to put it through the crusher cheers peter ps love your loco
Does this engine have a reverser? I would definitely want one that does so I can drive it like a full-size engine. Not sure if any of them do, but I would love that.
RMI sells steel rail. But it cost $25 a 10' length. Al rail costs about a 1/4 of that. You can get rid of most of the shine by giving the Al rail a coat of Rustoleum primer. And pocket the change.
Nice video of a lovely loco ! Was the scale chosen to allow use on a standard gauge track for another (smaller) scale ? (My mathematically-challenged brain is on vacation right now !)
7 1/2" gauge track is used for both narrow gauge (2 1/2" scale for 3ft prototype, 3" scale for 30" ga prototype, 3 3/4" scale for 2ft prototype) and standard gauge (1 1/2" scale). So unlike full size, the track stays the same and the scale of the engine changes. Which means that narrow gauge locomotives appear larger than standard gauge locomotives running on the same track, which is opposite of what you see in full size. :)
Got it ! You scaled the narrow gauge loco to fit the rails, analogous to the Fn-scale on G-gauge or On30" on HO track. Beautifully done, whatever the derivation !
wi11y1960, it's all the soot build up in the flues from the previous days operation. coal burners tend to build up a lot of soot and cinders in the flues which has to be cleaned on regular basis. also if you noticed if the beginning of the video he was cleaning out the ashpan too and putting the grates into firebox. that too also has to be cleaned out before the days operation.
I was at our club today and we were talking about how difficult it is to buy good char.then I saw you rip open the bag from Australia. I am from Australia can you give me more info on this product. the char we currently use does not burn hot enough.is there a company name on the bag.
Where in Hell would you even start? Building something like that must take eons and the engineering skill involved must be second to none.Amazing (I would feel a bit of a pratt acually driving it though.Gotta be honest)
wi11y1960, Even oil burners produce soot. About the only ones that don't are the ones that are fired on propane. I start mine on propane and many times it lights with a bang. The soot gets knocked loose and goes up the stack then. :-)
I know a lot about the Denver and Rio Grande but the locomotive you have no longer exist only the it's sister exist which is # 463 which is on the Cumbers and Toltec Railroad
464 is located in Flint, MI at the Huckleberry Railroad/Crossroads Village. She runs just about daily and is currently their primary locomotive as they restore #2 (#152) a 4-6-0 Baldwin.
The 463 and 464 are the last of the original K-27 locomotives of the D&RG RR. The other K's on the Durango & Silverton RR and the Cumbres & Toltec RR are K-28's, K-36's, and K-37's. The 464 came to the Huckleberry by way of Knott's Berry Farm in CA after they got it from the D&RGW. It was too big and couldn't negotiate the sharp curves at Knott's. The 2-8-0's 40 and 41 have blind (flangeless) middle drivers and the K's have flanges on all drivers.
Most are built by their owners. It isn't until you get down to smaller scales that you can buy ready to run. But then that costs more and takes away some of the fun. 45 years ago I was building 1.5" ( 1/8 full size ) models for sale with a local supplier. Even back then you could spend several grand for a Diesel and 10 grand for a steamer.
Hello my name is Leo your real steam locomotive is fantastic, I want to built one like yours, I have disponible all metallic machine like lathe and vertical drill ecc ecc to realize all pieces necessary, but I need about project and construction plan. I think that to begin will be sufficient realize a locomotive with not more of 3 axes. Now have you disponible a project/power plan of construction ecc ecc for a locomotive with 7 3/4" gauge that can be able to start for me??? Thank so much Leo
you build them yourselves. or you pay a lot of money and buy one from someone who has built one. These are models built by men who love locomotives, not toys you buy in a shop
That is one great looking model. Can't even imagine the work/manhours that went into building that. Not to mention the layout. Thanks for sharing!
There is a group NEOLS (Northeast Ohio Live Steam) not far from where I live, 20 miles or so, that is pretty impressive, not sure if they have a turntable, but many other things. Funny story a man who had a metal shop in his basement, lathe, Bridgeport etc. lived around the block from me when I was a teen. My buddy and I were trying to build a helium neon gas laser and needed some machined parts to hold mirrors etc. My other friend told me that perhaps the guy with his shop in the basement, Mr. Williams would help us, which he did. Wow, turns out he was a member of NEOLS and had a basement full of wondrous stuff. A locomotive in progress, some heat engines he built from Popular Mechanics and other things I don't remember. I was in awe. He passed quite a few years ago. When I worked at Goodyear Aerospace I worked next to his son-in-law, which I found out when he (son-in-law) asked me if I was interested in trains, I said yes, and as we were talking I discovered his father-in-law was the one that made parts for the laser project when I was a teen. Small world! Here is a link to a lot of pics and vids of NEOLS club meets. neols.net/photosandvideos.php
I am so glad this world has talented people in it. Talk about skills. Spectacular stuff.
This totally satisfied my inner child seeing this.
That is a beautiful engine and some nice property. Thanks for posting - I couldn't help but smile the whole time watching this.
Has to be one of the nicest steamers I've seen. Great job on the attention to the details.
I remember seeing this video as a young child.
wow. truly amazing. I can only dream about having such awesome piece of machinery
This is exactly why you start saving early for retirement kids...
There are ways of building live steam trains on the cheap.
littleevan99
How? anything under 4K? please reply
Build it yourself, that's what I'm doing. When I'm done it should cost around $2,000.
littleevan99 Some of us don't have that skill XD
I don't really have the skill either but I'm learning how to do the stuff. There are even books that tell you how to do everything. Look up "Building the Pennsylvania A3" by Kozo Hiraoka. That book practically holds your hand and shows you step by step how to build a working steam engine.
the D&RG K-27 2 1, she is BEAUTIFUL.
Lovely loco, making up a sweet little train, on an incredibile set of tracks, at a beautiful location, with fantastic vistas and postcard scenery, on a wonderful bit of property. Hey, what more could you ask for! Great vid.
Great video! Love the sound the loco makes, sounds almost like the real thing!
This guy sure knows how to run the "Front Office"!
@ minecraftineer they put the counterweights outside of the frame because D&RGW wanted to use a large boiler design to pull freight over the mountains. the only way to fit the boiler on the locomotive was to put the counterweights on the outside. the cylinders would have gotten in the way of the boiler and would make the engine too top heavy so so they kept the boiler low to the ground to keep the center of gravity.
You guys do not know how much I want a train like that in my back yard. Wait, I know what else I'm adding to me Christmas list!!!!!! 😃
That is insane ! Wicked good ! Love it ! I dont even know how I found this vid :)
Filip Latka efforts
Awsome build!!
@ Minecraftineer998 Those are the counterweights for balancing the drive mechanism, this is common on most Narrow Gauge outside frame locomotives.
Absolutely beautiful!
excellent railroad,loco and video
Wow that engine is lovely. I've seen it once at the PV&A in person but never under fire before
I noticed @ 8:29 there is a Colorado and Southern engine sitting in the round house. I assume that is a visiting engine? And if so is there any videos of it running?
Thats a model and a half!🥰
Excellent video.
Wonderful. It must be fun. I'd like to have one.👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
I see it’s 464. The K-27 that is found in operation at the Huckleberry Railroad.
nice little locomotive you got there
i enjoy watching , thanks
Nan Doit ghjj
Very sharp locomotive. How much coal do you burn during a typical day of running?
Probably one 50lb bag of char or less depending on how hard you are pulling.
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Do u know were to get a 1 1/2 scale mogul? Cuz I want one and I can only find a 1 1/2 scale one but I want a 2 1/2 scale one
Have a go at building one yourself, as that's how most miniature locomotives are built.
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That is a beautiful Rio Grande K-27, but I did notice one thing, It looks like he ran that switch a 4:52. Are those harp switches like spring switches?
The switches on this railroad are all return-sprung so you can run through them regardless of setting. Most live steam railroad switches are built that way, especially return-loop switches for dog-bone style layouts.
Have you ever tried lighting using the ‘upside down’ fire method of burning from the top downwards? It seems like this was standard practice on SAR.
Outstanding!
This is exactly what I want.
How come that turntable at the steaming bays turned so well? The turntable at GGLS is the same design(caster on strip of concrete), but it gets jammed a lot.
Thats a great looking loco! I rode on the full size 464 not too long ago. How much did it cost to make that? It looks amazing.
Where do you buy those? If you did not buy it then how did you build it? Either way it is looking beautiful!
Thanks Mike!
thanks mike! great stuff! looks like one of the pistons is leaking in cylinders though?
Who builds these model engines? I've always wondered that since I was a kid at the thresheree.
+A3Kr0n As the description notes, this engine was built by professional modelmaker Richard Ulin. most live steamers build their own engines however.
Who makes these? I have a load of questions.
Richard Ulin. It's in the video description.
Seems it would be pretty cool to have a 19 inch gauge live steam ride on train based off a Pere Marquette 1225. It's my favorite steam train, and it uses a 4-8-4 set up.
I have an excursion with Pere Marquette 1225 on March 14th. You can get more info at railyardproductions.com
My favorite is the U.P. Big Boy 4-8-8-4 Have 3 in H.O. scale.
thanks very much for the reply. I think the company you are refering to is in Melbourne they no longer supply char for steam clubs.they now bag into 5kg bags and sell it as heat beads. they make more money that way. I took a trip to Kooragang only last week we bought a 800kg bag for our club.no where near as good as the Melbourne stuff. it dosnt burn hot enough. we are struggling to get above 60psi.may have to put it through the crusher cheers peter ps love your loco
Does this engine have a reverser? I would definitely want one that does so I can drive it like a full-size engine. Not sure if any of them do, but I would love that.
That's 464 from the Huckleberry Railroad.
Is that Tom Miller's rolled steel rail? One thing that stands out on a fair number of large scale pikes is that annoying aluminum sheen on the rails.
RMI sells steel rail. But it cost $25 a 10' length. Al rail costs about a 1/4 of that. You can get rid of most of the shine by giving the Al rail a coat of Rustoleum primer. And pocket the change.
好漂亮蒸汽小火車頭，太美了😉👍👍👍
Lovely loco. Is it anthracite coal you are using ?
Nice video of a lovely loco ! Was the scale chosen to allow use on a standard gauge track for another (smaller) scale ? (My mathematically-challenged brain is on vacation right now !)
7 1/2" gauge track is used for both narrow gauge (2 1/2" scale for 3ft prototype, 3" scale for 30" ga prototype, 3 3/4" scale for 2ft prototype) and standard gauge (1 1/2" scale). So unlike full size, the track stays the same and the scale of the engine changes. Which means that narrow gauge locomotives appear larger than standard gauge locomotives running on the same track, which is opposite of what you see in full size. :)
Got it ! You scaled the narrow gauge loco to fit the rails, analogous to the Fn-scale on G-gauge or On30" on HO track. Beautifully done, whatever the derivation !
+CaptainHarlock999 how do you get the fyling skotssman gowing i have it but how do you make it get moving
Great video. I have been searching for Australian char dealers. Who do you get yours from?
Thank you
Colt.
wi11y1960, it's all the soot build up in the flues from the previous days operation. coal burners tend to build up a lot of soot and cinders in the flues which has to be cleaned on regular basis. also if you noticed if the beginning of the video he was cleaning out the ashpan too and putting the grates into firebox. that too also has to be cleaned out before the days operation.
Awesome very cool 🤓
Are those pellets he's using to to light her off with? I would think they might fall down through the grates.
I was at our club today and we were talking about how difficult it is to buy good char.then I saw you rip open the bag from Australia. I am from Australia can you give me more info on this product. the char we currently use does not burn hot enough.is there a company name on the bag.
way cool. How many years did it take to get this far?
It takes thousands of hours. I would guess he's 10,000 hours into this hobby with that engine.
Brilliant!
Beautiful locomotive, I'm sure you get this question a lot but how much does it cost to own one of them? Thanks
Depends on the engine, a K-36 is a quarter mil built RTR
Alex Dyson-Smith What about if you build it yourself?
I think Ulin wanted around $15k for the rough castings.
CaptainHarlock999 I see, thanks.
Alex Dyson-Smith Thanks for the response
what are the flange thingys outside of the wheel? they're part of the driving rods....
Did that locomotive have an operating steam powered air compressor on it?
Are there any drawings for the tender available? I’m building a k27 in 2” scale but I don’t have tender drawings.
I love them DRGW steamers
Where in Hell would you even start? Building something like that must take eons and the engineering skill involved must be second to none.Amazing (I would feel a bit of a pratt acually driving it though.Gotta be honest)
How long and how much to build a k-36 is there any kits avable
Is The Driver working or playing with the K-27 locomotive?
If the coal burns clean, how is it he looks filthy when cleaning it? Beautiful locomotive.
wi11y1960, Even oil burners produce soot. About the only ones that don't are the ones that are fired on propane. I start mine on propane and many times it lights with a bang. The soot gets knocked loose and goes up the stack then. :-)
How fast can these things go
Why did the man 👨 put grates in the firebox?
I’ve ridden on the real 464 many times and if I didn’t have anything for reference of scale I’d think this was actually 464z
does she ride on needle bearings on the drivers?
Very good
where do you get all the trains from???
so does anybody know where to buy rough castings who is the supplier
+Travis Cascarelli Richard Ulin sells the plans and castings for about $30k I think.
He has sold it. Now you can get them from www.alcowestlocomotives.com/
What is your minimum turn radius for that locomotive
Where do you get your locomotives and track?
wow Amazing
I wish i have one on my backyard
I wish I had my own ride on live steam locomotive.
I know a lot about the Denver and Rio Grande but the locomotive you have no longer exist only the it's sister exist which is # 463 which is on the Cumbers and Toltec Railroad
464 is located in Flint, MI at the Huckleberry Railroad/Crossroads Village. She runs just about daily and is currently their primary locomotive as they restore #2 (#152) a 4-6-0 Baldwin.
The 463 and 464 are the last of the original K-27 locomotives of the D&RG RR. The other K's on the Durango & Silverton RR and the Cumbres & Toltec RR are K-28's, K-36's, and K-37's.
The 464 came to the Huckleberry by way of Knott's Berry Farm in CA after they got it from the D&RGW. It was too big and couldn't negotiate the sharp curves at Knott's. The 2-8-0's 40 and 41 have blind (flangeless) middle drivers and the K's have flanges on all drivers.
Can someone tell me were I can get a 2 1/2 scale mogul? I want one so bad!
You build it your self
I like how it is a model of engine 464
and how many do you have
This is very important..... Where do u get these trains? I keep looking for these and I can never find them. Plz answer soon
You build them your self.
how much does one cost
Di mana kakek belik keratapian nya
where can i buy one???
are these custom or can you buy them?
Most are built by their owners. It isn't until you get down to smaller scales that you can buy ready to run. But then that costs more and takes away some of the fun. 45 years ago I was building 1.5" ( 1/8 full size ) models for sale with a local supplier. Even back then you could spend several grand for a Diesel and 10 grand for a steamer.
If I had that little engine, I wouldn't mind the dirty hands and everything else.
Where is this rr at
insane
where is this
Hello my name is Leo your real steam locomotive is fantastic, I want to built one like yours, I have disponible all metallic machine like lathe and vertical drill ecc ecc to realize all pieces necessary, but I need about project and construction plan. I think that to begin will be sufficient realize a locomotive with not more of 3 axes. Now have you disponible a project/power plan of construction ecc ecc for a locomotive with 7 3/4" gauge that can be able to start for me??? Thank so much Leo
I need that I love Rio Grande
👍👍👍 !!!
ye kaha par hain
Nice
Now all you need is a 1/2 scale person...
Where is this at?
Poisonous Ram it's not public, it's his private railroad.
Can somebody assist me about this please and thanks
I want 90 of them
I also need to know how cause I looked and I have no idea how to get these. I also need to get them cheaper, way cheaper. I need a response soon.
you build them yourselves. or you pay a lot of money and buy one from someone who has built one. These are models built by men who love locomotives, not toys you buy in a shop
Bro how can you afford all this? I cant even afford the smallest engine
and can u post more vids of this