“Our top story tonight: a man who caught lightning in a bottle over a decade ago has been seen standing on the roof of his mansion holding a golf club in the air, claiming he’ll ‘do it again.’ There’s no storm forecasted in the near future, but some lightning fans are still hopeful.”
“This just in, our sources are telling us that many so called “lightning fans” are secretly alt right weirdos who are just super dang excited to get one over on “the woke”, more at ten”
This is such a perfect summation and I couldn't agree more - luck played an integral part in all this. While it may happen again, Notch (and his team) really did catch lightning in a bottle and the chances of this happening again are slim to none.
@@PhoenixSCI do disagree though. While it’s UNLIKELY, he now knows at least one method to pull it off. Luck may have played a role, but it did show him what works, what doesn’t and what to do to pull off such a feat again. The only problem is he needs a different color of lightning this time to catch people’s interest. He needs to repeat what he did BUT somehow make it novel and interesting once again, enough so to sell it. A great writer is DRASTICALLY more likely to succeed releasing a great book after one of their previous ones exploded in popularity. They not only have more knowledge and experience of what works, but they have more people willing to give them a chance. Same with movies, games, inventions, etc. He has a significantly higher chance at succeeding at this than most other game devs do. Sure, he’s going to need massive luck again to reach anywhere near the heights that Minecraft did, but to assume that he won’t at least he highly successful is wild.
@@PhoenixSC I disagree heavily. If Notch fails, I will do Minecraft 2. Minecraft 2 is inevitable and has to happen. Mojang going after weapon mod developers and introducing chat reporting makes me anxious for its future.
the REAL minecraft 2 is LUANTI (open source minecraft) go play it now if you haven't and try multiple gamemodes. it's the creativity of minecraft modpacks with none of the mojang/microsoft ToS/DMCA Bull*** .
If I recall correctly Notch himself said the game might not see the light because it's him. For context, he has a lot of projects that abandoned/stopped developing
@@wtfduudi dont exactly know the lore behind this other than he sold mojang to microsoft, but did he still work there for a little bit before leaving or did he HAVE to leave?
@@clif_rice As far as I remember, he did leave on his own. Not sure if/how long he worked after selling, but he wasn't kicked out, he wanted to leave to focus on other stuff and as far as I remember once he sold and got that big big money, he wasn't sure what to do with all of it and went through some stuff, maybe that was part of leaving MC to make something new. Not sure if it's 100% confirmed though, Notch is a complex individual and he himself probably can't answer it too.
For as interesting as this announcement is, im honestly 99% sure that this is going to be one of those wild announcements that end up going nowhere, and people are gonna completely forget about it in three to six months. Edit: What the actual fuck is going on in the replies
Especially considering the vast queer community in block game that wouldn't be too happy with the blatant transphobia Notch has displayed in the past. I doubt, even if something releases, that it would do well.
I kid you not Idk wtf you are talking about. 💀 Minecraft youtubers have been making gay sus jokes in 2018 without the fear of being canceled just fine.
What we really need is an open source community driven minecraft. Or if mojang would --- and make an official mod editor, instead of releasing countless short sighted updates.
Minecraft is a game about creativity, it seems aweful that the most creative parts of editing a game are constricted by the high skill floor required to get into it
there is indeed lore so good enough, story mode is basically lore and dungeons has some lore as well. Minecraft 2 could basically just be Minecraft with a quest system while still having the open world aspect. and maybe walk animations and still customizable characters.
From what we see from notch its likely that he had other plans for the direction from minecraft rather than mojang, not sure which one is better since i quiet like mojangs update of carefuly looking through stuff againts notchs' "fuck it we ball" style
@@vyo27viyo79I do agree, although I also see what unique, iconic things like the creeper and such some of that bold decision making gave us, that Mojang otherwise would never have done afterwards. So I’m quite interested in at least observing what it’ll result in this time
Yeah, it seems like an interesting concept but it definitely won’t end up taking away players from Minecraft. But I do think that a lot of people will at least check it out.
To be clear, Notch didn’t get assistance by specifically Jeb until the Alpha Version was already released and still being developed. Give credit where its do. He still coded the game from nothing
The fact people say Minecraft 2 is coming when the first line of the tweet is “ I am basically making Minecraft 2 “ which just means it isn’t Minecraft 2
Actually it means that it IS Minecraft 2, just on a basic level. I've heard movie characters say "Yeah I'm basically rich" and they are literally rich, it's just a silly extra adverb for silliness, not a negator or something.
@@chaotickreg7024 Yeah but the statement "I'm basically making minecraft 2" is preceded by the fact that he said he's making a "spiritual successor to minecraft" a lot of people dont show it but the "minecraft 2" tweet was a reply from someone asking for a summary of the situation
@@Bronkonable Ok so it will basically be Minecraft 2 AND a spiritual successor to Minecraft. This could be anything from a 3d Geometry Dash all the way to literally Minecraft 2 under a new title.
This was not on my 2025 bingo card at all. This also reminds me of that meme back in the day where people go, "If Among Us was good, why don't they make an Among Us 2?" but it actually happens.
Honestly I'm confused on what a Minecraft 2 would even end up like (Especially since Minecraft "1" isn't even done/finished yet due to how it opperates with updates it continually gets to this day) Like would it end up being a spiritual successor in the veins of something like Vintage story or would it end up being real similar to Minecraft as it is now? If it's the former, then calling it "Minecraft 2" would be pretty inaccurate but if it's the latter, then there's a good chance that Modern Minecraft may make the existence of this "Minecraft 2" kind of pointless (Depending on how similar MC2 ends up being to Minecraft right now) Sorry for the somewhat long comment btw
@@Unowdvalcoyes, notch has said it's gonna be a spiritual successor, and it's gonna be what if notch actually never sold Minecraft, so it's gonna be Minecraft IN THE ORIGINAL CREATORS VISION it's basically like the Snyder verse vs the snyder verse uncut. Minecraft 2 is what if Minecraft stayed as notches
@@lightningjadejavier I'm curious what would have been different if Minecraft stayed as notches. Not a lot of core gameplay elements had changed since Microsoft took over, since they're taking the more conservative path and mainly adding things on top of what Minecraft already is. The only aspects I can think of is maybe reverting combat update, and redoing the End or adding more lore?
It doesnt have to have exploading mobs, or anything. His game was huge because it was free for years and basically less than 30 servers to play on for anyone for free. The public told him notes directly about what they did and did not like. He used his own logic and implemented what made sense to him, and eventually had a game for sale. Even then, though, he supported piracy of his own game and asked people who support him to pay for it -- and they did; Minecraft is the worlds most purchased MMO with the most purchased accounts in the history of games.
"AI generated thumbnails for youtube videos are great, I don't even have to click them to find out the videos are lazy. Saves a lot of time." -Notch being based as usual
2:26 I kinda do agree, Mojang is doing their best while Microsoft is pretty much killing the game with it's minestore, the very thing Notch lothes in video games, it being microtransactions.
I used to feel that way too, but... after the situation with chat reporting, Mojang has made it clear that they're the ones in control. Mojang is just as much to blame.
@@goldenalbumendefinitely, I mean the first scummy Eula changes happened before Mojang was even sold to Microsoft. Microsoft is not your allies, but so is Mojang
Axolot, the studio that was originally going to build an Xbox 360 port of Minecraft, created Scrap Mechanic, a game inspired by their Minecraft prototype for the Xbox 360. It is a lot of fun, and you should try it.
I personally find it to be a way more spiritual successor to minecraft than what notch claims to be making. Even if its early access, its survival modes game design is top notch and I find it way more enjoyable than minecraft imo.
This is gonna be a 90-degree uphill battle for Notch. He's gonna run into the same issues Gary Newman, creator of Garry's Mod, is running into with his Gmod "spiritual successor" S&box. The biggest issue will obviously be convincing people to play the game. Convincing them that they shouldn't just stick with Minecraft forever. Explaining what purpose this "Minecraft 2" will serve is the first step.
I’ve heard Notch is not that great of a guy who also has a terrible track record when it comes to game development, but I am curious despite those factors.
I wouldn't get too excited, he can't make anything too similar to the original Minecraft because of copyright. You can't top a game that's been constantly updated for 15 years, let alone make a surprise sequel.
You can only really make something new in a similar vein. And we already have that - Vintage Story. Oh, and... huh, we're also getting another game, Hytale. And numerous other games like Lay of the Land, Planetsmith, Reforj, and Cosmic Reach are also being worked on. This being said, faced with these other games, with years of development and actual passion behind them, how exactly does Notch intend to make the one to rule them all when he's years too late, and seems to have little to offer in comparison?
Why? There are literally minecraft clones in discord and microsoft is not doing anything about them. If Microsoft suddenly decided to go only against Notch, it could be argued that they do it out of malice against Notch, not to protect their brand.
You don’t understand what copyright is Yes he could make a game very similar to Minecraft because Microsoft doesn’t have a patent on voxel building / mining survival games
@@sohlasattelite and nothing could be done to combat this move of theirs. If they decide to only target Notch's creation, a dispute could be made about them ignoring the other infringing lookalikes, but the choice to push a claim against a lookalike is completely on them so can anyone even dispute that?
There have been mods made in a year or two that contain magnitudes more content than the 15 year game in question contains. Notch absolutely could top that game in that amount of time. He would need to get help and lock in, but it's physically possible. The best kind of possible.
Gotta love how suddenly everyone is super hyped over the mere promise of something along the lines of a Minecraft successor by Notch, yet Vintage Story has flown under the radar for _years_ despite having an amazing team and community and a truly fantastic game
Be real. Vintage story is a hardcore neolithic survival simulator that _is not_ just minecraft 2. It's literally only blocky because it's the successor to a complete overhaul mod of minecraft. It is nowhere near as accessible or entertaining as minecraft. Might as well call Factorio a minecraft sequel, after all, it has mining AND crafting, and it was inspired by the Minecraft mod Industrial Craft 2.
@clawcaps3224 No. BTW is BTW, it's still in active development as a Minecraft mod, and has not spun off into a standalone game. Vintage Story is a full game recreation and expansion of the minecraft mod TerraFirmaCraft.
all I say for my 2 cents is have it on steam. Modding feels so much easier on steam and also helps to have one spot to find mods and not multiple websites and versions to go through. The amount of times I get fabric and forge mods mixed up is not great.
Steam Workshop doesn't really have any sort of versioning support, been playing/modding Stellaris and while the devs do maintain a version history like Mojang does, it's not really possible to mix with mods, so anything the scope of high effort Minecraft modpacks like GTNH is impossible
@@DundG Even since the poll has opened the ratio between people who have voted either side has barely changed, since then people who don't follow his tweets have had a chance to vote which means that the poll can somewhat represent the whole population.
Risk of Rain 2 is peak Rivals of Aether 2 is also a strong sequel Slay the Spire 2 comes out this year in early access and looks really fun already I think there's a good chance for a "2" sequel to have some success
I think even if he didn't care about copyright, it still is going to disappoint people. There is just too much implied meaning behind "Minecraft", too many emotions and nostalgia. It is something I noticed with myself. I think about a game I used to love, and either play it or a similar game and realize.. I just grew out of the genre or series. I feel like a lot of the disappointment around Minecraft is like this. People aren't disappointed in how Minecraft is, they are disappointed that it doesn't give them the same feelings it used to. They don't realize they just grew out of the game. I can't say what percentage of people are this way, but I'd bet it is a lot of people.
He did say that if he does end up making it, that he would tap into the nostalgia factor in the same Twitter thread, so we'll see! He himself admits that it might just flop and that he's doing this just to have fun while developing a game, and earn cash in the process. At least he's honest about the latter part, lol.
100%, and people are also forgetting that notch actually did not care for a lot of things that he added. For example, the end was specifically made quickly to make people shut up about the game not really having any sort of goal. He didnt actually care about the entirety of the end or the end credits that so many people love. But obviously the majority of players didnt see notchs outbursts back in the day, so they likely still think of old minecraft as “the greatest passion project that was stolen by microsoft”, when notchs passion left him long before he sold it. They miss their childlike creativity and how they used to be able to play for weeks without boredom, but notch cant bring that back
The game has gotten worse in almost every aspect. Nothing major, but it’s a death by a thousand cuts. Every single aspect has seen some kind of downgrade. Gameplay, exploration, graphics, artstyle, design, aesthetic, depth, atmosphere, etc etc etc. The only improvements are technical, like extended world height.
"Growing up" and "growing out of" are not the same thing. You can be 50 and still grow out of something you used to like. It is pretty rare for someone to like doing the same thing, let alone playing the same game their entire life. Yes, even if the game gets constant updates.
@@joaks1969 I meant we have no ground to be comparing this to mega mind 2 besides the fact it’s coming out almost a decade or two later then the original so I personally think this is a big stretch
@@joaks1969 Ehhh, i wouldnt say that. Baldurs Gate 2 was released in 2000, Baldurs Gate 3 in 2023, and yet it was well liked and won Game of the Year. If a sequel is good, its good, doesnt matter if its 5 or 10 or 20 years after the original. The problem is A) Notch CANT make a real sequel - he doesnt own the IP anymore, he can at best make an "inspired" game - but it wont really be Minecraft 2 and B) its questionable how much a "sequel" is really needed in a game thats still as popular and updated as Minecraft. And all of that is not even yet taking into consideration that Notch is openly pretty fckn racist.
honestly, there's really no reason to think notch is actually gonna make minecraft 2. obvious logistical issues aside, he's announced spiritual successors to minecraft before and nothing ever came of em, and as far as the development of minecraft itself is concerned it's really more accurate to credit jeb with its creation. notch is always saying he'll make a game, but then he never finishes it, and then it fades into obscurity in a couple months. i also can't say i see microsoft working with him on a licensed sequel, since they went out of their way to remove all but one mention of his name from minecraft after he started spouting inflammatory bigoted nonsense on social media. i'd bet money on him not following through with this lmao
this is actually a really decent take honestly my thoughts are that even if he does make something (considering the new """hype""" around it), it probably will stay pretty small, unfinished, and maybe just be a tech demo of sorts. or maybe he'll go the route of making a Minetest game since that's a preexisting open-source block game engine which he could easily extrapolate off of to mitigate the amount of work needed to develop the game
Until we have a playable demo (which shows that the game's foundation isn't going to suck), it's all just a pipe dream, nothing to be overly excited about. People are so caught up with the cycle of instant hype or outrage at the sight of new announcements from their childhood heroes that they're not stopping to think for a second if its realization is going to be realistic. 0x10c's stalled development is certainly still fresh in my mind, and that game was in development and cancelled when Notch was still leading Mojang.
@@StrongestRobert yes they do, they're correct in everything they said, idk why people are dick riding a washed up 50 yr old Twitter addict that hasn't produced a good game for the last 10 years
The 3 main things I want to see of a minecraft successor or general minecraft like game are 1. Actual good performance 2. Huge view distance 3. a decent physics system encompassing all the main elements. Also keep the moddability oh my god KEEP THE MODDABILITY, maybe make it easier and more accessible but KEEP IT MODDABLE
If im being completely honest, although Im hyped, I dont expect anything from Notch, he already gave the world something to be proud of, if he ever develops a game, which he seems motivated to do, good to see him in a good state, id definitely try another game he makes, and i will try my best to not to compare it to minrcraft but a separate, individual game. Id be super happy to try it out. But hey, if he someday just tweets about stopping developing/abandoning it, thats also perfectly okay.
The thing I'm m confused on is, like, how do you make a Minecraft 2? Is it just modded Minecraft, but in vanilla? What will he do for Minecraft 2 that Minecraft mods can't?
well, one possible benefit that can be seen is that having modded features made into the base game means they will be less buggy, overall should have better performance, and also you dont need to spend time adding mods or learning how to mod, the game would just come like that already
Thing is, just trying to blatantly copy Minecraft, you can't. Going for a direction like Vintage Story or Hytale (if it ever releases) is the only way. Minecraft was lightning in a bottle, and you can't simply try to photocopy it and expect equal success.
There's a lot of stuff Minecraft was supposed to have, but never got, and since 2011, had a huge stylistic and design divergence from the original principles and structure of the game. A lot of what's been added to Minecraft since 1.8 has essentially been side content stapled onto the base game, which hasn't meaningfully changed. It's almost more like free DLC than it is an actual iteration on the basic design, because most of it rarely interacts with the core gameplay. Copper isn't useful for anything but its own little cordon. Once you complete The End and acquire an Elytra, all the other end game content is essentially on the same tier and you can take or leave it as you choose. All of the new mobs look fundamentally different from the original mobs, and many of them serve no practical purpose at all aside from filling space or distinguishing one biome from another. They don't drop anything, and have some mechanic where you get their item that does one thing instead. And the rest are boss style hostile mobs who drop their respective update's gimmick. It's all very poorly integrated and disjointed. A new competitor that isn't focused on squeezing every cent out of the audience and being a live service drip feeding new content might actually be good for Minecraft just as much as it is for the market as a whole. It'll have credible competition and real pressure to innovate instead of resting on its laurels.
Microsoft won't work with notch for one (they did their best to distance themselves from him after he kinda got obsessed with hating trans ppl) and for two their plan seems more to be to add updates until the end of time and milk the franchise in other ways such as merch and spinoffs.
I personally think this would never work, Minecraft is a game that has grown with us and been influenced by feedback from the community. Not even Notch would be able to create something to gain this much of a following
Exactly. Trying to artificially manufacture a Minecraft competitor is asinine. Vintage Story is the true spiritual successor to Minecraft, for now, and they've fostered a nice, organic community over a number of years, trying to make something that shares some of Minecraft's DNA, while adding in plenty of wholly new things. They want to create a realistic survival game, not a Minecraft competitor.
He created this but it happened because he was listening to community, adding community content and cared Minecraft used to be friendly place Notch is no longer capable of creating good community. He's transphobic, anti-Semitic, selfish, anti social persin
@starstenaal527It's not that other games can't it's that it's hard to recreate the lightning in a bottle success that Minecraft's community did. Bethesda tried to artificially recreate it with starfield and it didn't work because they kinda focused too much on the "well the community will carry the game!" aspect rather than making the actual game. Noted that Notch isn't Bethesda so things could go the complete other way than what I just said, but people kinda have a right to feel jaded especially since NO other game is gonna live up to Minecraft, literally nothing
I think Notch should just make a mod pack for Java players of changes he would like to see in the current version of game. Stuff he would like to add, remove or just overall gameplay tweaks, the "Notch Cut" if you will
there was a very small bit of context that happened before the post shown here, I would suggest people making videos on this post reference that post as well, as it is the beginning of the thread of conversation. the post with the poll is several posts after that initial post.
@@edwinve4112 We will forget about it and Notch gets more depressed that his fans are disappointed and delusional enough to think this was a good idea. End of story.
We also got Hytale that might have a beta released somewhere after or during early or most likely a beta announcement than a release, but might next year? 😅
You know I wouldn't mind the old kind of development of a game with scary monsters and blocks where you don't know anything about the world, cause the updates are ambiguous. Combined with new atmosphere
I'm surprised at how chill people are being about notch trying to make a come back. Last I'd heard from him, he had fallen into a dark pit of alt right nonsense. Remember why he was cut off, folks.
He literally became the kind of person you associate with someone that wore a fedora and tipped it, making his original profile picture become his personality.
Well, I expect it will be a different game than Minecraft because well... Minecraft is quite moddable to the point that it could change its genre. Well I just hope he makes a good game, no high expectations.
It's going to be a totally different game. I don't think Notch is trying to make a "replacement" for the original, and people play more than one video game.
Thats assuming he ever even gets far enough in development for it to be playable. Most of these sort of sucessor projects end up dying before even having any even alpha state.
A lot of people are saying it won't ever be as good as OG Minecraft, but I'm thinking: Does it have to be? I hope he manages to capture the original vision that got lost when Minecraft became a franchise. In my eyes, it's something like a first-person Dwarf Fortress. A sandbox game where you build things that "do" things, and could (with a good Modding API) be a game engine for similar experiences. Modern Minecraft isn't really that, so much as it is exploring the world to gather the right Lego blocks to build what you want to build. Which is fine, it's a very "what you make of it" type of game- and it's sort of... "done" now. It appeals a little bit to everyone, and now there's no major changes that can be made without alienating *someone* in the community. It's not quite the direction I wanted, but it's the direction we got. My hope is that Notch makes the game he wanted to make the first time 'round. I highly doubt it'll be as popular, but maybe, just maybe, it'll be as good as I imagined Minecraft would one day be. I hope so.
Yeah, I honestly think that if he makes this game like beta 1.7.3 but like better then it has a chance of being great! I never thought I would even see the day that we got a SECOND MINECRAFT but here we are!
@@stikz45but there are already projects like that and he would even join them. The issue is that no one would want him because of that he doesn't accect people
Excepy mojang removed even the exploration aspect. Why go search for more LEGO pieces when they all come to you instead? Now nearly everything is craftable or purchasable from traders.
Gosh I really want it's success to grow. It really feels like a distinct, evolved experience, that's going for something different. You cannot make a "Minecraft 2" if it's just going to be trying to ape off the original.
I clicked on this video to hear what useless bs was going on since minecraft doesn't need a "2" AND FOUND THE AMAZING COMMENTS ABOUT VINTAGE STORY, i never knew it existed, and now i do and i'm so happy i get to try it out!! I really love how the vanilla minecraft is since i love building and designing in it, but i'm happy there's kinda a different take on it. Like Vintage Story seems you get to be more involved with everything, while in minecraft i simply enjoy the easy chill gathering of stuff so i can build my creations
Idk if it’s still considered copyright infringement, but Notch could make a game with very similar graphics to Minecraft, but with a different end goal (even though many mods and games on education edition already have this type of content). As there are many competitors already, it would definitely be hard to think of a good plot other than “collect items, fight boss”
I'm always interested to see what he's up to as a dev; His raytraced webgl voxel engine a few years back was really cool. To me this doesn't read as a "hey guys i'm going to make minecraft 2", more like he's just wondering what the people who engage with his work would like to see from him. He's a game developer through and through, sometimes you just want someone to point you at a problem so you can work on it.
Frankly, I really wish he'd work on his roguelike instead, but he seems marginally excited to do this too so whatever. In my experience people absolutely make the best stuff when they're exited and passionate about it. Also, I care much more about Notch making something he likes and being happy than having him make a Minecraft clone. Also, I totally could not disagree more with that one comment you briefly showed where the guy says Notch isn't a good dev and Minecraft being good has nothing to do with him. I won't claim Notch is some godly dev or anything, but he's definitely a solid one with good ideas. I'm just really glad to see him making games again and glad it seems to be making him happy.
If he really wants to built a spiritual successor, he will have to give it a unique spin and I don't think it will be easy to come up with a unique spin, that is unique enaugh to make the game stand out and easy enaugh that a one man project can realize it. I am very sceptical. I think many people who want minecraft 2 and say that the original minecraft was better see the past with rose colored glasses. They loved minecraft back then because it was something new and unique. If just another minecraft but with less features and less block variety was to come out, most people would play it for a day or two and then go back to regular minecraft.
let's see how much goodwill people still have for the guy who was shaking and trembling with fury when someone asked him to say "nazis are bad" on twitter
In addition to pushing numerous Q conspiracy theories on the very same Twitter account. No, yeah, genuinely, this was my first thought, especially as he was saying how "people were gonna give him MORE cash for making XYZ game". Microsoft sucks, but Notch is dead to me.
Honestly I doubt microsoft ever want to interact with notch again ever since basically taking custody of Minecraft and errasing every last trace of his presence from the game say what you want about microsoft's scummy marketing tactics with the bedrock marketplace, at least they're not publicly racist or against trans people
I'd like to see him do it and I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what the game would be like. He said a few times that it wouldn't be too similar
Ok, but "I'm gonna work on this" and "I'm announcing this" are _very_ different statements. Notch has worked on a bunch of stuff that never left a beta state and he doesn't really have a track record at leading projects to completion. I dont trust game "announcements " because of how the market is anyway, and that's from studios that have proven they can do the work. As far as I can see it at best he's gauging interest for a project that he has no vision for (otherwise he would have said _literally anything about it)_ and at worst he just wants attention.
@@WasatchWindYou really loved Vintage story huh? I haven't tried it, but definitely a harder version of Minecraft, most likely from a mod called TerraFirmaCraft or something.
@@GregorianMG Its not from TerraFirmaCraft, it started as VintageCraft but they pretty quickly got sick of dealing with Minecraft's limitations and made it its own thing. Its also insanely customizable so you can make it stupidly easy if you want. The aesthetic and survival focus aren't for everybody but then again _so_ many people complain about Minecraft's shallow survival mechanics.
I very much don't enjoy the people saying Notch can't make games and using Minecraft as an example why. It has been a very long time since then and he has worked with others. Regardless of what you think of him it is just very unfair to talk poorly on his ability to make games based on when he was much younger.
i dont know why everyone is acting like notch is some greedy guy who wont produce anything and is only doing this for attention and money. notch already has attention, everything he says is seen by millions. notch already has money, more money than he could ever spend. he just likes programming and he's probably tired of being yelled at constantly by children asking him to make minecraft "2", so he made a big poll asking what people want to see from him since he still likes making games.
I mean I just doubt he’ll actually make it because something like this happens with a lot of celebrities years later trying to recapture the spark that made them famous once they realize the biggest moment of their lives is behind them. Even if it happens to release the chances of it remotely matching the level of Minecraft in popularity or quality are next to none because it’s almost impossible to not just feel like any other Minecraft clone or mod even if it’s made by the original creator. I’m not coming from a place of hate I just legitimately cannot imagine a world where this would actually work out when nearly every example in history of attempts like this have failed
@@plugshirt1762 i mean, notch himself doesnt even expect anything he makes to ever even come close to minecraft. him saying hes going to work on a minecraft spiritual successor is in no way saying that he's trying to outshine minecraft at all. saying that it wont be more popular than minecraft is a pretty nothing statement. fucking tetris is less popular than minecraft
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We forget there are a few reasons why Notch ain't part of Mojang anymore. Tbh, that space game Notch was working would be a much better announcement. Many will forget this by may or something, trust me.
2:29 I think "shitification" is a bit of an overstatement... If I was 10 again and found Minecraft in this state I would still love the game. But you can really see how they don't care about the community as much as they used to and more about obtaining money and becoming more corporate. But Microsoft didn't destroy the game. If they did destroy the game people wouldn't come back to play it.
I always wondered what kind of timeline we are on rn, it feels like we are somehow splitting into multiple branches and yet feels like one all together like the effects of a paradox twisting together like vines (idk about time stuff)
We have different portions of the population with irreconcilably different ways of looking at reality. Some people have a worldview so different from mine that it feels like they're living on a different planet. We can see the same thing and they somehow see something completely different from what I'm looking at. What we're seeing is the gradual splintering of reality due to different parts of the population using entirely different logic to the point that they're living in different worlds.
Like I never fucking thought we have Minecraft 2 coming up 2025, I think all the memes and jokes we have seen in the past is somehow magically shaping our entire lives and future
To be completely honest, Minecraft as it is currently is a "can't live with, can't live without" situation. On one hand, there are a ton of QoL changes + new content that greatly improves gameplay and replayability, however there's also a *ton* of slop/unwanted bloat content that just kinda exists in current Minecraft making it oversaturated and...I guess less creatively inspiring in a roundabout way? (at least I see it that way) Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a version of Minecraft with a bit less content, but way more polish in it's place. Something that really shows the pride and love put into the game which made Minecraft popular in the first place.
(just did some digging and did find the twitter post from notch of the sc, voxel doom models were mentioned to be placeholders until an artist could be found)
"i dont like my games being popular!" -notch also notch annoucing it knowing hes an insanely well known figure making his game, already popular before it releases...
Notch was a sad man after he sold Minecraft to THE biggest company in the world. Idu why everyone hates him. Imagine you made a game it got overwhelmingly popular. Would you be a bit scared of your privacy?
@@ZacAttackk If you know the background behind the things he had done (Depression and loneliness) you'd know he wasn't in the right place. Notch really isn't a bad guy and its SUPER Disrespectful for people to be saying this stuff about him.
One thing he could do is have the normal minecraft textures but all new biomes and dimensions, that wont be added to the original. they could replace the nether and end with new Dimensions as I mentioned earlier as well as new boss mobs respectively.
I feel like I;m going crazy: Wasn't Notch super transphobic/p racist a few years back?! I thought that's why he stopped garnering so much support. I dunno, this whole MC2 business leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes Notch feel like a watered down, washed up billionaire like Elon Musk.
He was, and perhaps still is. This Minecraft 2 bait is a comedy, and knowing Notch and how he develops games, I don't think we should expect anything at all, to be honest, or lower our expectations.
Most people don't actually care about that and/or those things themselves. Racist rethoric is doing incredibly well all over the first world while most people always looked at trans people with a mix of pity and disgust, you are in a bubble.
I’m not expecting lightning in a bottle, I just want something a little different, or at the very least just SOMETHING, cause nothing ever happens anymore.
Issue with Microsoft is everything else I got my account hacked, i cant contact them with an acount theft email, or even support Letter, my Minecraft account is gone because mojang had to be merged with Microsoft, and my sea of thieves stuff is also gone, i had 2FA active, got no emails/messages or anything about an email and password change, Microsoft is a joke
Honestly all people want is to have a version of minecraft like the old betas, there's a reason so many people still play and prefer Beta 1.7.3 to the modern shit (and I don't blame em, anything during and past the combat update is incredibly hit or miss)
“Our top story tonight: a man who caught lightning in a bottle over a decade ago has been seen standing on the roof of his mansion holding a golf club in the air, claiming he’ll ‘do it again.’ There’s no storm forecasted in the near future, but some lightning fans are still hopeful.”
“This just in, our sources are telling us that many so called “lightning fans” are secretly alt right weirdos who are just super dang excited to get one over on “the woke”, more at ten”
This is such a perfect summation and I couldn't agree more - luck played an integral part in all this. While it may happen again, Notch (and his team) really did catch lightning in a bottle and the chances of this happening again are slim to none.
And a white supremacist (not even a little either, but very open abt it at least back in the day) man, at that.
@@PhoenixSCI do disagree though. While it’s UNLIKELY, he now knows at least one method to pull it off. Luck may have played a role, but it did show him what works, what doesn’t and what to do to pull off such a feat again. The only problem is he needs a different color of lightning this time to catch people’s interest. He needs to repeat what he did BUT somehow make it novel and interesting once again, enough so to sell it. A great writer is DRASTICALLY more likely to succeed releasing a great book after one of their previous ones exploded in popularity. They not only have more knowledge and experience of what works, but they have more people willing to give them a chance. Same with movies, games, inventions, etc. He has a significantly higher chance at succeeding at this than most other game devs do. Sure, he’s going to need massive luck again to reach anywhere near the heights that Minecraft did, but to assume that he won’t at least he highly successful is wild.
@@PhoenixSC I disagree heavily. If Notch fails, I will do Minecraft 2. Minecraft 2 is inevitable and has to happen. Mojang going after weapon mod developers and introducing chat reporting makes me anxious for its future.
my people, we must take shelter from the soon outburst of “we got minecraft 2 before gta VI”
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im in +1
I mean, we didnt even get it yet
sir yes sir
Can't you believe we got minecraft 2 before gta VI? 🙏🏻
Minecraft 2: circle game
Osu!
and triangles!
Digons!
nah💀
mobius strip
Don't forget Reforj which is 4J Studios (Developers of Minecraft Legacy Console editions) attempt at a "Minecraft 2"
Being made with Stampy
not really a sequel, just a similar open world sandbox
the REAL minecraft 2 is LUANTI (open source minecraft)
go play it now if you haven't and try multiple gamemodes. it's the creativity of minecraft modpacks with none of the mojang/microsoft ToS/DMCA Bull*** .
If I recall correctly Notch himself said the game might not see the light because it's him. For context, he has a lot of projects that abandoned/stopped developing
Including Minecraft.
@@wtfduudi dont exactly know the lore behind this other than he sold mojang to microsoft, but did he still work there for a little bit before leaving or did he HAVE to leave?
@@clif_rice As far as I remember, he did leave on his own. Not sure if/how long he worked after selling, but he wasn't kicked out, he wanted to leave to focus on other stuff and as far as I remember once he sold and got that big big money, he wasn't sure what to do with all of it and went through some stuff, maybe that was part of leaving MC to make something new. Not sure if it's 100% confirmed though, Notch is a complex individual and he himself probably can't answer it too.
Maybe he’s secretly working on “Reforj”
@oldchannel6736 yeah i really didnt know whether he got kicked out or not. thanks for answering.
For as interesting as this announcement is, im honestly 99% sure that this is going to be one of those wild announcements that end up going nowhere, and people are gonna completely forget about it in three to six months.
Edit: What the actual fuck is going on in the replies
Or it finds very mild success and becomes one of those games that gets a video essay 10 years later.
People will come to realize just how unnecessary this is especially if it comes out which ironically might kill any future hope of a “Minecraft 2”
Especially considering the vast queer community in block game that wouldn't be too happy with the blatant transphobia Notch has displayed in the past. I doubt, even if something releases, that it would do well.
@@jacobdalambnot to mention the multiple block building games that are in development right now are more likely to rival Minecraft
I kid you not Idk wtf you are talking about. 💀 Minecraft youtubers have been making gay sus jokes in 2018 without the fear of being canceled just fine.
3:16 lmao the Hytale jumpscare was perfect
We're getting Minecraft 2 after Hytale?
I had to go back frame by frame to read what it actually was
I blinked and was like “wait did he flash something on the screen” and went back to see if he did
😱
I came to say this
What we really need is an open source community driven minecraft. Or if mojang would --- and make an official mod editor, instead of releasing countless short sighted updates.
Minecraft is a game about creativity, it seems aweful that the most creative parts of editing a game are constricted by the high skill floor required to get into it
Won't happen because bedrock & marketplace & realms+ & corporate greed & Minecraft being the only money cow in Xbox gamepass
There's Luanti (formerly Minetest)
For the last two years, Mojang is making creating mods easier and easier. Are you even following the news?
Luanti exists and people are making great things with it. It’s not meant to be a full game on its own but an open source engine for making block games
3:15 lol, that 1-frame Hytale logo flash after "How long will it take?"...
It's actually 7 frames at 60 FPS.
@@-cloudfall- just fact checked that is correct
felt like a gut punch, still waiting for that game too this day
@@wadewats2278 rumers put it at another 2 years since they had to start from scratch early last year because game code or something got currupted
They said it would most likely come out in 2024, Then they said 2025. I guess we'll just have to wait and see for now
I just don't see the point in making a sequel to a game that neither has a story line nor is outdated/abandoned in some fashion
there is indeed lore so good enough, story mode is basically lore and dungeons has some lore as well. Minecraft 2 could basically just be Minecraft with a quest system while still having the open world aspect. and maybe walk animations and still customizable characters.
From what we see from notch its likely that he had other plans for the direction from minecraft rather than mojang, not sure which one is better since i quiet like mojangs update of carefuly looking through stuff againts notchs' "fuck it we ball" style
@@vyo27viyo79I do agree, although I also see what unique, iconic things like the creeper and such some of that bold decision making gave us, that Mojang otherwise would never have done afterwards.
So I’m quite interested in at least observing what it’ll result in this time
@@vyo27viyo79 Microsoft*
@@vyo27viyo79 adding 3 stupid (useless) mobs and a new wood type every year isnt careful consideration, it's shit
All I really hope is that "minecraft 2" just starts small and then it expands over time just like last time.
Yeah, it seems like an interesting concept but it definitely won’t end up taking away players from Minecraft. But I do think that a lot of people will at least check it out.
The game you are describing is Vintage Story
@@WasatchWind I have heard of it but I have never played it.
yeah i just want a small game that plays and feels like beta-alpha minecraft but different, kinda like a fangame but better
look at the intention it’s getting it’s definitely not gonna start small. except if it bores everyone or something
Maybe Minecraft 2 could be kind of like a Titanfall situation where game 1 doesn’t have a proper campaign but game 2 does
knowing how jeb fixed and updated the game, its probably going to be a buggy weird mess unless someone else helps him
Yea, people praise Notch like some game dev messiah without realizing just how integral to minecraft Jeb always has been even from the start
he already has employees
modern minecraft is a polished turd sort of like starfield
@@Lethal_Spoonerrr well mostly yeah, but jeb sure helped quite a bit with notchs early code lol
To be clear, Notch didn’t get assistance by specifically Jeb until the Alpha Version was already released and still being developed. Give credit where its do. He still coded the game from nothing
The fact people say Minecraft 2 is coming when the first line of the tweet is “ I am basically making Minecraft 2 “ which just means it isn’t Minecraft 2
Actually it means that it IS Minecraft 2, just on a basic level.
I've heard movie characters say "Yeah I'm basically rich" and they are literally rich, it's just a silly extra adverb for silliness, not a negator or something.
@@chaotickreg7024 Yeah but the statement "I'm basically making minecraft 2" is preceded by the fact that he said he's making a "spiritual successor to minecraft" a lot of people dont show it but the "minecraft 2" tweet was a reply from someone asking for a summary of the situation
I feel like Notch is better off making his new game instead
@@Bronkonable Ok so it will basically be Minecraft 2 AND a spiritual successor to Minecraft. This could be anything from a 3d Geometry Dash all the way to literally Minecraft 2 under a new title.
@ same ngl, but it is what it is
This was not on my 2025 bingo card at all. This also reminds me of that meme back in the day where people go, "If Among Us was good, why don't they make an Among Us 2?" but it actually happens.
Honestly I'm confused on what a Minecraft 2 would even end up like (Especially since Minecraft "1" isn't even done/finished yet due to how it opperates with updates it continually gets to this day)
Like would it end up being a spiritual successor in the veins of something like Vintage story or would it end up being real similar to Minecraft as it is now?
If it's the former, then calling it "Minecraft 2" would be pretty inaccurate but if it's the latter, then there's a good chance that Modern Minecraft may make the existence of this "Minecraft 2" kind of pointless (Depending on how similar MC2 ends up being to Minecraft right now)
Sorry for the somewhat long comment btw
@@Unowdvalco not long at all, dont let the people who say "aint readin allat" get u
@@Unowdvalcoyes, notch has said it's gonna be a spiritual successor, and it's gonna be what if notch actually never sold Minecraft, so it's gonna be Minecraft IN THE ORIGINAL CREATORS VISION
it's basically like the Snyder verse vs the snyder verse uncut.
Minecraft 2 is what if Minecraft stayed as notches
@@lightningjadejavier I'm curious what would have been different if Minecraft stayed as notches. Not a lot of core gameplay elements had changed since Microsoft took over, since they're taking the more conservative path and mainly adding things on top of what Minecraft already is. The only aspects I can think of is maybe reverting combat update, and redoing the End or adding more lore?
Innersloth was actually previously planning Among Us 2, but they cancelled it in favour of updating the first game more when it exploded in popularity
It doesnt have to have exploading mobs, or anything. His game was huge because it was free for years and basically less than 30 servers to play on for anyone for free. The public told him notes directly about what they did and did not like. He used his own logic and implemented what made sense to him, and eventually had a game for sale. Even then, though, he supported piracy of his own game and asked people who support him to pay for it -- and they did; Minecraft is the worlds most purchased MMO with the most purchased accounts in the history of games.
0:21 Kinda obsessed with the AI generated thumbnail that tries to pass off like... a trailer was dropped or something?
It would be good for the Minecraft movie 2 if there is one
@parasite377 if minecraft movie is about the nether if they do a second one could be about the end
"AI generated thumbnails for youtube videos are great, I don't even have to click them to find out the videos are lazy. Saves a lot of time."
-Notch being based as usual
Thanks for giving it attention.
That's what AI slop needs, I guess...
@@wooper2654
Granted, that's coming from the same asshole who sold his own game to Microsoft "because money."
2:26 I kinda do agree, Mojang is doing their best while Microsoft is pretty much killing the game with it's minestore, the very thing Notch lothes in video games, it being microtransactions.
I used to feel that way too, but... after the situation with chat reporting, Mojang has made it clear that they're the ones in control. Mojang is just as much to blame.
@@goldenalbumendefinitely, I mean the first scummy Eula changes happened before Mojang was even sold to Microsoft.
Microsoft is not your allies, but so is Mojang
To be honest at this rate, neither the original Minecraft nor whatever this "Minecraft 2" thing could be seem promising
nope, mojang is also at fault
*And Jewish people. Notch loathes microtransations, and Jewish people.
minecraft two: revenge of herobrine
Minecraft 2: Herobrine Strikes Back
i would buy that
@Archbishop101 MOTHER 2 REFERANCE!!!
Minecraft 2: Order of the Stone
Minecraft 2: Steve Fucking Dies
Axolot, the studio that was originally going to build an Xbox 360 port of Minecraft, created Scrap Mechanic, a game inspired by their Minecraft prototype for the Xbox 360. It is a lot of fun, and you should try it.
I personally find it to be a way more spiritual successor to minecraft than what notch claims to be making. Even if its early access, its survival modes game design is top notch and I find it way more enjoyable than minecraft imo.
This is a bot comment, it is in fact stolen
Nice rack!
typical surivival-builing early access game, game without any updates 4+ years
Minecraft situation is insane
the slop thickens
This is the greatest sequel of All Time
@ “I just want to talk about this”
"And yeah, that’s about it. See ya."
Thanks for slopping by
This is gonna be a 90-degree uphill battle for Notch. He's gonna run into the same issues Gary Newman, creator of Garry's Mod, is running into with his Gmod "spiritual successor" S&box. The biggest issue will obviously be convincing people to play the game. Convincing them that they shouldn't just stick with Minecraft forever. Explaining what purpose this "Minecraft 2" will serve is the first step.
problem with Gary is that he didn't make in fact a spiritual successor to gmod. s&box is garbage
And trying to not be racist
@@windowsxseven And that will be true for whatever glitchy shovelware Notch puts out
@@windowsxseven is it actually that bad?
Didn't know there was another-
Don’t be silly. Everyone knows Minecraft 2 came out on April 1st, 2013.
real
the Etho Slab my beloved
That is what I was thinking LOL
I’ve heard Notch is not that great of a guy who also has a terrible track record when it comes to game development, but I am curious despite those factors.
I wouldn't get too excited, he can't make anything too similar to the original Minecraft because of copyright. You can't top a game that's been constantly updated for 15 years, let alone make a surprise sequel.
You can only really make something new in a similar vein. And we already have that - Vintage Story. Oh, and... huh, we're also getting another game, Hytale. And numerous other games like Lay of the Land, Planetsmith, Reforj, and Cosmic Reach are also being worked on.
This being said, faced with these other games, with years of development and actual passion behind them, how exactly does Notch intend to make the one to rule them all when he's years too late, and seems to have little to offer in comparison?
Why? There are literally minecraft clones in discord and microsoft is not doing anything about them. If Microsoft suddenly decided to go only against Notch, it could be argued that they do it out of malice against Notch, not to protect their brand.
You don’t understand what copyright is
Yes he could make a game very similar to Minecraft because Microsoft doesn’t have a patent on voxel building / mining survival games
@@sohlasattelite and nothing could be done to combat this move of theirs. If they decide to only target Notch's creation, a dispute could be made about them ignoring the other infringing lookalikes, but the choice to push a claim against a lookalike is completely on them so can anyone even dispute that?
There have been mods made in a year or two that contain magnitudes more content than the 15 year game in question contains.
Notch absolutely could top that game in that amount of time. He would need to get help and lock in, but it's physically possible. The best kind of possible.
Gotta love how suddenly everyone is super hyped over the mere promise of something along the lines of a Minecraft successor by Notch, yet Vintage Story has flown under the radar for _years_ despite having an amazing team and community and a truly fantastic game
Be real. Vintage story is a hardcore neolithic survival simulator that _is not_ just minecraft 2. It's literally only blocky because it's the successor to a complete overhaul mod of minecraft. It is nowhere near as accessible or entertaining as minecraft. Might as well call Factorio a minecraft sequel, after all, it has mining AND crafting, and it was inspired by the Minecraft mod Industrial Craft 2.
@@Xahnel well said. i don't understand why people compare a full-sandbox title to a hardcore survival game
its not under my radar!! *continues modding*
Vintage story is basically the Better than wolves mod, and that is notttt something most people want to suffer through playing
@clawcaps3224 No. BTW is BTW, it's still in active development as a Minecraft mod, and has not spun off into a standalone game.
Vintage Story is a full game recreation and expansion of the minecraft mod TerraFirmaCraft.
I heard people talking about this but didn’t know they weren’t joking
SAME, i was playing on a server and a random dude typed 'notch just announced mc 2' in chat
@ what server?
Same I thought it was just a meme
all I say for my 2 cents is have it on steam. Modding feels so much easier on steam and also helps to have one spot to find mods and not multiple websites and versions to go through. The amount of times I get fabric and forge mods mixed up is not great.
my biggest hope for this would also be having one unified version as well, instead of players being split between java and bedrock.
I'm hoping for a better performance. Minecraft as it is rn is a mess and only really playable with performance mods.
@@SamsDevelopmentChannelFinally! Minecraft Jebrock edition!
Steam Workshop doesn't really have any sort of versioning support, been playing/modding Stellaris and while the devs do maintain a version history like Mojang does, it's not really possible to mix with mods, so anything the scope of high effort Minecraft modpacks like GTNH is impossible
steam is terrible for modding in terms of sorting modlists and priorities
unpopular opinion but im not hyped at all for this
Not that unpopular
@@imperadorchin3099 Well, the poll showed that Minecraft 2 is voted for. So it is the unpopular opinion.
@@clowesydan4807nah the comment section showed this opinion a lot.
@@clowesydan4807The poll are people interacting with him. Not the far greater community that now reacts to his announcement. So no... you're wrong.
@@DundG Even since the poll has opened the ratio between people who have voted either side has barely changed, since then people who don't follow his tweets have had a chance to vote which means that the poll can somewhat represent the whole population.
After recent years, i fear games adding a 2 to the end of their names
Risk of Rain 2 is peak
Rivals of Aether 2 is also a strong sequel
Slay the Spire 2 comes out this year in early access and looks really fun already
I think there's a good chance for a "2" sequel to have some success
@@mageferago yeah, subnautica 2
Overwatch 💀
I love it when someone compares AAA slop to labour of love Indies like it's a comparison
@@mageferago RoR 2 is shit ever since the DLC came out and buttfucked the entire game's code.
I think even if he didn't care about copyright, it still is going to disappoint people. There is just too much implied meaning behind "Minecraft", too many emotions and nostalgia. It is something I noticed with myself. I think about a game I used to love, and either play it or a similar game and realize.. I just grew out of the genre or series.
I feel like a lot of the disappointment around Minecraft is like this. People aren't disappointed in how Minecraft is, they are disappointed that it doesn't give them the same feelings it used to. They don't realize they just grew out of the game. I can't say what percentage of people are this way, but I'd bet it is a lot of people.
He did say that if he does end up making it, that he would tap into the nostalgia factor in the same Twitter thread, so we'll see!
He himself admits that it might just flop and that he's doing this just to have fun while developing a game, and earn cash in the process. At least he's honest about the latter part, lol.
100%, and people are also forgetting that notch actually did not care for a lot of things that he added. For example, the end was specifically made quickly to make people shut up about the game not really having any sort of goal. He didnt actually care about the entirety of the end or the end credits that so many people love. But obviously the majority of players didnt see notchs outbursts back in the day, so they likely still think of old minecraft as “the greatest passion project that was stolen by microsoft”, when notchs passion left him long before he sold it. They miss their childlike creativity and how they used to be able to play for weeks without boredom, but notch cant bring that back
Sigh…
Always with this excuse. Why?
No, it was never about ”growing up”.
Why is it so difficult for you to admit that things can change?
The game has gotten worse in almost every aspect. Nothing major, but it’s a death by a thousand cuts.
Every single aspect has seen some kind of downgrade.
Gameplay, exploration, graphics, artstyle, design, aesthetic, depth, atmosphere, etc etc etc.
The only improvements are technical, like extended world height.
"Growing up" and "growing out of" are not the same thing. You can be 50 and still grow out of something you used to like.
It is pretty rare for someone to like doing the same thing, let alone playing the same game their entire life. Yes, even if the game gets constant updates.
3:23 the harry gold show mentioned!!
Yay!
the goaattt
This reminds me of megamind 2 where they released the second film 14 years later.... except this is that on steroids, jesus.
USE THE DEHYDRATION GUN
How? No one knows anything about the game and it won’t be out for another Half decade probably
@@Slizzo2-b8n That's their point? A second installment that is not needed announced over a decade from its original installment.
@@joaks1969 I meant we have no ground to be comparing this to mega mind 2 besides the fact it’s coming out almost a decade or two later then the original so I personally think this is a big stretch
@@joaks1969 Ehhh, i wouldnt say that. Baldurs Gate 2 was released in 2000, Baldurs Gate 3 in 2023, and yet it was well liked and won Game of the Year. If a sequel is good, its good, doesnt matter if its 5 or 10 or 20 years after the original. The problem is A) Notch CANT make a real sequel - he doesnt own the IP anymore, he can at best make an "inspired" game - but it wont really be Minecraft 2 and B) its questionable how much a "sequel" is really needed in a game thats still as popular and updated as Minecraft.
And all of that is not even yet taking into consideration that Notch is openly pretty fckn racist.
honestly, there's really no reason to think notch is actually gonna make minecraft 2. obvious logistical issues aside, he's announced spiritual successors to minecraft before and nothing ever came of em, and as far as the development of minecraft itself is concerned it's really more accurate to credit jeb with its creation. notch is always saying he'll make a game, but then he never finishes it, and then it fades into obscurity in a couple months. i also can't say i see microsoft working with him on a licensed sequel, since they went out of their way to remove all but one mention of his name from minecraft after he started spouting inflammatory bigoted nonsense on social media. i'd bet money on him not following through with this lmao
this is actually a really decent take honestly
my thoughts are that even if he does make something (considering the new """hype""" around it),
it probably will stay pretty small, unfinished, and maybe just be a tech demo of sorts.
or maybe he'll go the route of making a Minetest game since that's a preexisting open-source block game engine which he could easily extrapolate off of to mitigate the amount of work needed to develop the game
"bigoted" LMAOOOOOOO
@TwoNumbahNienscan can we not say what he literally did anymore
Until we have a playable demo (which shows that the game's foundation isn't going to suck), it's all just a pipe dream, nothing to be overly excited about. People are so caught up with the cycle of instant hype or outrage at the sight of new announcements from their childhood heroes that they're not stopping to think for a second if its realization is going to be realistic. 0x10c's stalled development is certainly still fresh in my mind, and that game was in development and cancelled when Notch was still leading Mojang.
@@StrongestRobert yes they do, they're correct in everything they said, idk why people are dick riding a washed up 50 yr old Twitter addict that hasn't produced a good game for the last 10 years
The 3 main things I want to see of a minecraft successor or general minecraft like game are
1. Actual good performance
2. Huge view distance
3. a decent physics system encompassing all the main elements.
Also keep the moddability oh my god KEEP THE MODDABILITY, maybe make it easier and more accessible but KEEP IT MODDABLE
If im being completely honest, although Im hyped, I dont expect anything from Notch, he already gave the world something to be proud of, if he ever develops a game, which he seems motivated to do, good to see him in a good state, id definitely try another game he makes, and i will try my best to not to compare it to minrcraft but a separate, individual game. Id be super happy to try it out. But hey, if he someday just tweets about stopping developing/abandoning it, thats also perfectly okay.
The thing I'm m confused on is, like, how do you make a Minecraft 2? Is it just modded Minecraft, but in vanilla? What will he do for Minecraft 2 that Minecraft mods can't?
He'll probably take it in a new way at the core of the game, we'll have to wait and see exactly what he ends up going with
well, one possible benefit that can be seen is that having modded features made into the base game means they will be less buggy, overall should have better performance, and also you dont need to spend time adding mods or learning how to mod, the game would just come like that already
Thing is, just trying to blatantly copy Minecraft, you can't. Going for a direction like Vintage Story or Hytale (if it ever releases) is the only way. Minecraft was lightning in a bottle, and you can't simply try to photocopy it and expect equal success.
Now Notch will feel the rate of the "but a modder can do it too" people 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's a lot of stuff Minecraft was supposed to have, but never got, and since 2011, had a huge stylistic and design divergence from the original principles and structure of the game. A lot of what's been added to Minecraft since 1.8 has essentially been side content stapled onto the base game, which hasn't meaningfully changed. It's almost more like free DLC than it is an actual iteration on the basic design, because most of it rarely interacts with the core gameplay. Copper isn't useful for anything but its own little cordon. Once you complete The End and acquire an Elytra, all the other end game content is essentially on the same tier and you can take or leave it as you choose.
All of the new mobs look fundamentally different from the original mobs, and many of them serve no practical purpose at all aside from filling space or distinguishing one biome from another. They don't drop anything, and have some mechanic where you get their item that does one thing instead. And the rest are boss style hostile mobs who drop their respective update's gimmick.
It's all very poorly integrated and disjointed.
A new competitor that isn't focused on squeezing every cent out of the audience and being a live service drip feeding new content might actually be good for Minecraft just as much as it is for the market as a whole. It'll have credible competition and real pressure to innovate instead of resting on its laurels.
Hytale has been real quiet since this dropped.... Actually, they've been quiet for like 7 years now
I swear if I see another “we got Minecraft 2 before gta 6” joke, I’m gonna crash out
we didnt even get it yet
We are getting Minecraft 2 before GTA6
That's evil, bro 😭@@UltraCraftYT222
We got Minecraft 2 before GTA VI
How about "We could potentially get a Minecraft 2 before GTA VI, or Vice versa"
Microsoft won't work with notch for one (they did their best to distance themselves from him after he kinda got obsessed with hating trans ppl) and for two their plan seems more to be to add updates until the end of time and milk the franchise in other ways such as merch and spinoffs.
mojang make anything that isn't a minecraft game challenge: impossible 😭
More like obsessed with hating literally anyone who isn’t him
I personally think this would never work, Minecraft is a game that has grown with us and been influenced by feedback from the community.
Not even Notch would be able to create something to gain this much of a following
Exactly. Trying to artificially manufacture a Minecraft competitor is asinine. Vintage Story is the true spiritual successor to Minecraft, for now, and they've fostered a nice, organic community over a number of years, trying to make something that shares some of Minecraft's DNA, while adding in plenty of wholly new things. They want to create a realistic survival game, not a Minecraft competitor.
And because Minecraft has a grand community, other games can't?
He created this but it happened because he was listening to community, adding community content and cared
Minecraft used to be friendly place
Notch is no longer capable of creating good community. He's transphobic, anti-Semitic, selfish, anti social persin
@starstenaal527It's not that other games can't it's that it's hard to recreate the lightning in a bottle success that Minecraft's community did. Bethesda tried to artificially recreate it with starfield and it didn't work because they kinda focused too much on the "well the community will carry the game!" aspect rather than making the actual game.
Noted that Notch isn't Bethesda so things could go the complete other way than what I just said, but people kinda have a right to feel jaded especially since NO other game is gonna live up to Minecraft, literally nothing
2025 is off to a CRAZY start. What’s next? War with North Korea? Alien invasion? Silksong releasing?
End of the world? I hope not.
I expect ww3 before the Silksong release
WWIII before GTA6
ok, ok...lets not go THAT far
Two of those, probably yeah.
I think Notch should just make a mod pack for Java players of changes he would like to see in the current version of game. Stuff he would like to add, remove or just overall gameplay tweaks, the "Notch Cut" if you will
Love this idea tbh 🔥
there was a very small bit of context that happened before the post shown here, I would suggest people making videos on this post reference that post as well, as it is the beginning of the thread of conversation. the post with the poll is several posts after that initial post.
I thought hatsune miku made minecraft? Who is this guy
Yea ikr like wtf
hes an actual false idol
have you been living under a rock?come on man
no idea, but don't look at his opinions on jews
@@blue_ouija i have hope 😌
Here's the thing, it's PROBABLY gonna suck unless Notch hires some really talented people.
And?
@@edwinve4112 We will forget about it and Notch gets more depressed that his fans are disappointed and delusional enough to think this was a good idea.
End of story.
0:11 THERE I AM GARY
I thought it said « I was gay »💀💀💀💀💀
LOL
W SpongeBob reference
We also got Hytale that might have a beta released somewhere after or during early or most likely a beta announcement than a release, but might next year? 😅
You know I wouldn't mind the old kind of development of a game with scary monsters and blocks where you don't know anything about the world, cause the updates are ambiguous. Combined with new atmosphere
0:43 heard that sound in woodshop alot
Yoo its punkleton rotting guy
I did not expect bro to be here
There is no easter bunny,
There is no tooth fairy
And there is no Minecraft 2!
What will they even do? Without mods minecraft was extremely bland. For me at least.
@@catolfcitlerballs
I'm surprised at how chill people are being about notch trying to make a come back. Last I'd heard from him, he had fallen into a dark pit of alt right nonsense. Remember why he was cut off, folks.
He literally became the kind of person you associate with someone that wore a fedora and tipped it, making his original profile picture become his personality.
Let's be honest, people are gonna try the game but everyone will probably stick to minecraft. Of course tho this comment could age horribly
Well, I expect it will be a different game than Minecraft because well... Minecraft is quite moddable to the point that it could change its genre.
Well I just hope he makes a good game, no high expectations.
Wait what if someone just makes a mod and texture pack or whatever and just puts the successor in minecraft
It's going to be a totally different game. I don't think Notch is trying to make a "replacement" for the original, and people play more than one video game.
i dont think its gonna release in the first place
Thats assuming he ever even gets far enough in development for it to be playable.
Most of these sort of sucessor projects end up dying before even having any even alpha state.
I really don’t get the hype around this, I’m very confused
A lot of people are saying it won't ever be as good as OG Minecraft, but I'm thinking: Does it have to be?
I hope he manages to capture the original vision that got lost when Minecraft became a franchise. In my eyes, it's something like a first-person Dwarf Fortress. A sandbox game where you build things that "do" things, and could (with a good Modding API) be a game engine for similar experiences.
Modern Minecraft isn't really that, so much as it is exploring the world to gather the right Lego blocks to build what you want to build. Which is fine, it's a very "what you make of it" type of game- and it's sort of... "done" now. It appeals a little bit to everyone, and now there's no major changes that can be made without alienating *someone* in the community. It's not quite the direction I wanted, but it's the direction we got.
My hope is that Notch makes the game he wanted to make the first time 'round. I highly doubt it'll be as popular, but maybe, just maybe, it'll be as good as I imagined Minecraft would one day be. I hope so.
Yeah, I honestly think that if he makes this game like beta 1.7.3 but like better then it has a chance of being great!
I never thought I would even see the day that we got a SECOND MINECRAFT but here we are!
@@stikz45but there are already projects like that and he would even join them. The issue is that no one would want him because of that he doesn't accect people
Excepy mojang removed even the exploration aspect.
Why go search for more LEGO pieces when they all come to you instead?
Now nearly everything is craftable or purchasable from traders.
i just found your yt channel again after 3 years your a legend
But we already _have_ a Minecraft 2; it's called Vintage Story.
I have played vintage story before.
Vintage Story is so good
the dev are also not scumbags like notch as a bonus give them your money instead
Gosh I really want it's success to grow. It really feels like a distinct, evolved experience, that's going for something different. You cannot make a "Minecraft 2" if it's just going to be trying to ape off the original.
VintageStory is TerraFirmaCraft 2. TerraFirmaCraft is Minecraft 2.
i heard the music, saw average Minecraft, did not see the notification or RUclipsr but I new it was Yeatnix SC
I clicked on this video to hear what useless bs was going on since minecraft doesn't need a "2" AND FOUND THE AMAZING COMMENTS ABOUT VINTAGE STORY, i never knew it existed, and now i do and i'm so happy i get to try it out!! I really love how the vanilla minecraft is since i love building and designing in it, but i'm happy there's kinda a different take on it. Like Vintage Story seems you get to be more involved with everything, while in minecraft i simply enjoy the easy chill gathering of stuff so i can build my creations
Idk if it’s still considered copyright infringement, but Notch could make a game with very similar graphics to Minecraft, but with a different end goal (even though many mods and games on education edition already have this type of content). As there are many competitors already, it would definitely be hard to think of a good plot other than “collect items, fight boss”
I don't think Minecraft 2 will repeat its success.
I'm always interested to see what he's up to as a dev; His raytraced webgl voxel engine a few years back was really cool. To me this doesn't read as a "hey guys i'm going to make minecraft 2", more like he's just wondering what the people who engage with his work would like to see from him. He's a game developer through and through, sometimes you just want someone to point you at a problem so you can work on it.
Frankly, I really wish he'd work on his roguelike instead, but he seems marginally excited to do this too so whatever. In my experience people absolutely make the best stuff when they're exited and passionate about it. Also, I care much more about Notch making something he likes and being happy than having him make a Minecraft clone.
Also, I totally could not disagree more with that one comment you briefly showed where the guy says Notch isn't a good dev and Minecraft being good has nothing to do with him. I won't claim Notch is some godly dev or anything, but he's definitely a solid one with good ideas. I'm just really glad to see him making games again and glad it seems to be making him happy.
Minecraft 2 with guns may be possible now
If he really wants to built a spiritual successor, he will have to give it a unique spin and I don't think it will be easy to come up with a unique spin, that is unique enaugh to make the game stand out and easy enaugh that a one man project can realize it. I am very sceptical. I think many people who want minecraft 2 and say that the original minecraft was better see the past with rose colored glasses. They loved minecraft back then because it was something new and unique. If just another minecraft but with less features and less block variety was to come out, most people would play it for a day or two and then go back to regular minecraft.
Plot twist, he’ll just remake Minecraft but with the old textures, because Microsoft doesn’t use them anymore 🗿
0:08 Ah, I see they're testing a mod.
He's openly telling us he can't be trusted with the money and people are eating it up? Does anyone have reading comprehension skills?
let's see how much goodwill people still have for the guy who was shaking and trembling with fury when someone asked him to say "nazis are bad" on twitter
People change, but somehow I have no faith in this guy, to be honest.
@@Vopyr people change alright my pos uncle changed from alive to dead
Brother, the US just elected someone like that,
I don’t think morals are in very high supply at this point
In addition to pushing numerous Q conspiracy theories on the very same Twitter account.
No, yeah, genuinely, this was my first thought, especially as he was saying how "people were gonna give him MORE cash for making XYZ game". Microsoft sucks, but Notch is dead to me.
Who the fuck cares lmao. If he makes a good sandbox game he gets my money
Honestly I doubt microsoft ever want to interact with notch again ever since basically taking custody of Minecraft and errasing every last trace of his presence from the game
say what you want about microsoft's scummy marketing tactics with the bedrock marketplace, at least they're not publicly racist or against trans people
Finally. I really hope he actually gets to release it, since I hated the direction that Microsoft gave to Minecraft.
We already have Minecraft 2. It’s called Vintage Story.
Why do I need Minecraft 2 when I'm perfectly happy with Minecraft 1?
"If you are sick of the game"
I've been sick of trying to find a single sheep in the Plains biome.
Notch has been woken up from his slumber in the coffin it seems
Should have stayed there.
Why @@Sphendrana
@@tigrex2700notch is a terrible person who has tweeted some very racist and transphobic things
@@tigrex2700 they think he is racist because he said white people are ok
@@Lethal_Spoon truly the peak of human understanding
I'd like to see him do it and I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what the game would be like. He said a few times that it wouldn't be too similar
Ok, but "I'm gonna work on this" and "I'm announcing this" are _very_ different statements. Notch has worked on a bunch of stuff that never left a beta state and he doesn't really have a track record at leading projects to completion. I dont trust game "announcements " because of how the market is anyway, and that's from studios that have proven they can do the work. As far as I can see it at best he's gauging interest for a project that he has no vision for (otherwise he would have said _literally anything about it)_ and at worst he just wants attention.
I am still waiting on Hytale, and will continue to until release. I have a feeling I will be playing Hytale while I wait for "Minecraft 2".
Pick up Vintage Story to tide you over while you wait
@@WasatchWindYou really loved Vintage story huh?
I haven't tried it, but definitely a harder version of Minecraft, most likely from a mod called TerraFirmaCraft or something.
Lay of the land is another one.
@@GregorianMG Look it up. Terrafirmacraft I believe was inspired by Vintage Story, so if you enjoyed playing that, you'd probably like VS.
@@GregorianMG Its not from TerraFirmaCraft, it started as VintageCraft but they pretty quickly got sick of dealing with Minecraft's limitations and made it its own thing. Its also insanely customizable so you can make it stupidly easy if you want. The aesthetic and survival focus aren't for everybody but then again _so_ many people complain about Minecraft's shallow survival mechanics.
I very much don't enjoy the people saying Notch can't make games and using Minecraft as an example why. It has been a very long time since then and he has worked with others. Regardless of what you think of him it is just very unfair to talk poorly on his ability to make games based on when he was much younger.
Minecraft 2's overworld gotta be the skibidi toilet dimencion.
i dont know why everyone is acting like notch is some greedy guy who wont produce anything and is only doing this for attention and money. notch already has attention, everything he says is seen by millions. notch already has money, more money than he could ever spend. he just likes programming and he's probably tired of being yelled at constantly by children asking him to make minecraft "2", so he made a big poll asking what people want to see from him since he still likes making games.
People think that hating him is ”cool”, so they do.
Nothing more to it, really.
I mean I just doubt he’ll actually make it because something like this happens with a lot of celebrities years later trying to recapture the spark that made them famous once they realize the biggest moment of their lives is behind them. Even if it happens to release the chances of it remotely matching the level of Minecraft in popularity or quality are next to none because it’s almost impossible to not just feel like any other Minecraft clone or mod even if it’s made by the original creator. I’m not coming from a place of hate I just legitimately cannot imagine a world where this would actually work out when nearly every example in history of attempts like this have failed
@@plugshirt1762 i mean, notch himself doesnt even expect anything he makes to ever even come close to minecraft. him saying hes going to work on a minecraft spiritual successor is in no way saying that he's trying to outshine minecraft at all. saying that it wont be more popular than minecraft is a pretty nothing statement. fucking tetris is less popular than minecraft
2:31 A new word has been added to my vocabulary: loathe.
Wanna add hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia?
Try pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I think it would be a helpful addition to your vocab
Don't forget Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysyliogogogoch and Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu. And maybe floccinaucinihilipilification.
You're joking right? Right??
We forget there are a few reasons why Notch ain't part of Mojang anymore. Tbh, that space game Notch was working would be a much better announcement. Many will forget this by may or something, trust me.
Minecraft -> Manycraft
Cubes -> Spheres
Pixel-art -> Vectorial art
Java -> Python
OpenGL -> Vulkan
See, it's not the same game!!!!
2:29 I think "shitification" is a bit of an overstatement... If I was 10 again and found Minecraft in this state I would still love the game. But you can really see how they don't care about the community as much as they used to and more about obtaining money and becoming more corporate.
But Microsoft didn't destroy the game. If they did destroy the game people wouldn't come back to play it.
I always wondered what kind of timeline we are on rn, it feels like we are somehow splitting into multiple branches and yet feels like one all together like the effects of a paradox twisting together like vines (idk about time stuff)
We have different portions of the population with irreconcilably different ways of looking at reality. Some people have a worldview so different from mine that it feels like they're living on a different planet. We can see the same thing and they somehow see something completely different from what I'm looking at. What we're seeing is the gradual splintering of reality due to different parts of the population using entirely different logic to the point that they're living in different worlds.
Like I never fucking thought we have Minecraft 2 coming up 2025, I think all the memes and jokes we have seen in the past is somehow magically shaping our entire lives and future
@@Weegeethegod69 Even in the off chance it actually happens, its not going to be in 2025.
Notch should work on other games, he had his chance with Minecraft and he turned his back on the community
To be completely honest, Minecraft as it is currently is a "can't live with, can't live without" situation. On one hand, there are a ton of QoL changes + new content that greatly improves gameplay and replayability, however there's also a *ton* of slop/unwanted bloat content that just kinda exists in current Minecraft making it oversaturated and...I guess less creatively inspiring in a roundabout way? (at least I see it that way)
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a version of Minecraft with a bit less content, but way more polish in it's place. Something that really shows the pride and love put into the game which made Minecraft popular in the first place.
"Minecraft 2" "has" "been" "announced", "and" "EVERYONE" "is" "talking" "about" "it".
Literally.
It has only been mentioned in 2 tweets by Notch and people made hype from it
1:00 hold up is that the 3d voxel model of the pinky from the Voxel Doom mod
(just did some digging and did find the twitter post from notch of the sc, voxel doom models were mentioned to be placeholders until an artist could be found)
"i dont like my games being popular!" -notch
also notch annoucing it knowing hes an insanely well known
figure making his game, already popular before it releases...
Notch was a sad man after he sold Minecraft to THE biggest company in the world. Idu why everyone hates him. Imagine you made a game it got overwhelmingly popular. Would you be a bit scared of your privacy?
@@TheTurnipStudios people hate him because of his comments about trans, jewish and black people.
@@TheTurnipStudios maybe it was all the unhinged shit he said for years after that! I don't know!
@@ZacAttackk If you know the background behind the things he had done (Depression and loneliness) you'd know he wasn't in the right place. Notch really isn't a bad guy and its SUPER Disrespectful for people to be saying this stuff about him.
@@TheTurnipStudios well it super disrespectful to have said what he said
I'm probably not going to play it but I am very curious to see how this turns out
One thing he could do is have the normal minecraft textures but all new biomes and dimensions, that wont be added to the original. they could replace the nether and end with new Dimensions as I mentioned earlier as well as new boss mobs respectively.
Minecraft 2, 5D blocks with time travel
I wonder if Mojang will update the splash text that says "Minecraft 2 Unannounced!"
Honestly they should just to spite him
Microsoft ain't very happy with notch,
We're likely gonna get "Minecraft 2" before Hytale. Wild.
I feel like I;m going crazy: Wasn't Notch super transphobic/p racist a few years back?! I thought that's why he stopped garnering so much support. I dunno, this whole MC2 business leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes Notch feel like a watered down, washed up billionaire like Elon Musk.
He was, and perhaps still is. This Minecraft 2 bait is a comedy, and knowing Notch and how he develops games, I don't think we should expect anything at all, to be honest, or lower our expectations.
Boo hoo
This exactly
He's a nasty man not worth paying attention to
@@DaeTheDerg it's been 7 years.
Move on lol.
Most people don't actually care about that and/or those things themselves. Racist rethoric is doing incredibly well all over the first world while most people always looked at trans people with a mix of pity and disgust, you are in a bubble.
I’m not expecting lightning in a bottle, I just want something a little different, or at the very least just SOMETHING, cause nothing ever happens anymore.
Issue with Microsoft is everything else
I got my account hacked, i cant contact them with an acount theft email, or even support Letter, my Minecraft account is gone because mojang had to be merged with Microsoft, and my sea of thieves stuff is also gone, i had 2FA active, got no emails/messages or anything about an email and password change, Microsoft is a joke
Honestly all people want is to have a version of minecraft like the old betas, there's a reason so many people still play and prefer Beta 1.7.3 to the modern shit (and I don't blame em, anything during and past the combat update is incredibly hit or miss)