You give the PecanPi high praise as the best HAT based DAC. How does it compare in sound quality against the comparably priced, but USB connected Allo Revolution DAC?
That depends on the unit the USB is on. If that's a quality network bridge, it's better. If you connect it to, for instance, the USB output of a Raspberry Pi, it's less.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel So you would say that the Allo Revolution connected to a RPi 4 would be inferior in sound to the PecanPi streamer. Interesting, thanks!
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Hello Hans- longtime fan and subscriber- I’m always interested in the value proposition when it comes to how cheap you can get what I would consider minimal “A” tier performance from DACs now that the technology has advanced so quickly since 2016. While I have auditioned say a Mytek Brooklyn Bridge streamer at a headphone show, you can’t do an a/b test to see how it handles things vs these sub $500 streamers. I bought theElac Discovery and like it a lot with the stock dac. How does it compare to this reviewed unit since you have had one also in your equipment rig for some time off and on...
You can check by listening carefully what I say on song quality in reviews. But even then that is my opinion and might not be yours.As I have explained in this video: ruclips.net/video/bSbVOgsAH7Y/видео.html.
Very interesting, thank you! Can you clarify what "Digital controls will always reacts slower"? (I was thinking about hooking this up to a 200w class D power amp). Also? on which of your setups will you place this unit? Thanks again, have a great weekend!
With digital controls I mean touch buttons like on a remote. The potentiometer on the PecanPi lets you lower volume instantly. It’s definitely mid setup 2.
Modern digital volume controls usually are very good, also here. The time of poor 16 bit volume controls is far behind s so if no stupid errors are made, they form no problems.
Am I correct in believing you said it's the best raspberry pi streamer? In a response to a comment asking where it fit in your 3 systems you said middle of #2. In your review of the Allo raspberry pi you said it fit in the top of your #2 system. I'm curious how the two compare as streamers. Is the difference that one has a DAC and the other doesn't?
The USBridge Signature isn't a DAC, it is only the RPi computer part of the streamer package. This PecanPi streamer reviews includes an RPi 3 + PecanPi DAC HAT. The PecanPi DAC HAT is what he is calling the best DAC HAT he's seen.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I was thinking of the streamer aspect of the two units, the Allo and the Pecan. But perhaps that's impossible as the Allo usbridge is only a steamer and the Pecan is a streamer/dac and the determining factor in sound is the DAC?
Very good device.
Carefully made.
As always, compreensive and deep review.
Keep going.
Thanks, will do!
First time I’ve watched your channel - very interesting product, very well reviewed. Thank you!
Welcome!
Interesting video
Glad you think so!
You give the PecanPi high praise as the best HAT based DAC. How does it compare in sound quality against the comparably priced, but USB connected Allo Revolution DAC?
That depends on the unit the USB is on. If that's a quality network bridge, it's better. If you connect it to, for instance, the USB output of a Raspberry Pi, it's less.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel So you would say that the Allo Revolution connected to a RPi 4 would be inferior in sound to the PecanPi streamer. Interesting, thanks!
Yes, if you use one of the four USB sockets on the Pi, not if you use, for instance the Allo USBridge Signature.
Just to advise, there were two ads that played during this but were only black screen no sound and returned to video after 20 seconds, greetings from Nova Scotia
Thanks!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel it's fixed - I didn't get the blank screens :-)
Hi Hans, so how does it compare to the 'giant little drawf' ie the project stream box S2 ultra, which you also reviewed. Thanks
or the Stack Audio Link
You can't compare these two, the Stream Box is a digital out box while the PecanPi is analog out.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I realised after I made my comment, that it wasn't a fair comparison, but thanks for your reply
What is the sound compared to my first generation SOtM SMS200 combined with ifi micro dsd dac and fed bij sbooster. Would it be an upgrade?
That's a completely different beast that doesn't include a DAC
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel I mean to replace both sms200 and the dac for the orchid. That makes things compacter.
Hello Hans- longtime fan and subscriber- I’m always interested in the value proposition when it comes to how cheap you can get what I would consider minimal “A” tier performance from DACs now that the technology has advanced so quickly since 2016. While I have auditioned say a Mytek Brooklyn Bridge streamer at a headphone show, you can’t do an a/b test to see how it handles things vs these sub $500 streamers. I bought theElac Discovery and like it a lot with the stock dac. How does it compare to this reviewed unit since you have had one also in your equipment rig for some time off and on...
You can check by listening carefully what I say on song quality in reviews. But even then that is my opinion and might not be yours.As I have explained in this video: ruclips.net/video/bSbVOgsAH7Y/видео.html.
Very interesting, thank you! Can you clarify what "Digital controls will always reacts slower"? (I was thinking about hooking this up to a 200w class D power amp). Also? on which of your setups will you place this unit? Thanks again, have a great weekend!
With digital controls I mean touch buttons like on a remote. The potentiometer on the PecanPi lets you lower volume instantly. It’s definitely mid setup 2.
Thanks Hans.Great video as always, Does Peacn Pi use potentiometer as analog volume or you can control analog volume with Roon "Device Volume" ?
It uses a regular potentiometer to control the digital volume control. And that can be controlled from Roon.
How good is the volume control?
Modern digital volume controls usually are very good, also here. The time of poor 16 bit volume controls is far behind s so if no stupid errors are made, they form no problems.
How is it compared to the Allo's Katana? thanks for the video Hans.
You find the review of the Katana here: ruclips.net/video/OBOQFFzVMwk/видео.html
Am I correct in believing you said it's the best raspberry pi streamer? In a response to a comment asking where it fit in your 3 systems you said middle of #2. In your review of the Allo raspberry pi you said it fit in the top of your #2 system. I'm curious how the two compare as streamers. Is the difference that one has a DAC and the other doesn't?
Yes, I'm curious how it compares the the AlloUSBridge Signature + Shanti
The USBridge Signature isn't a DAC, it is only the RPi computer part of the streamer package. This PecanPi streamer reviews includes an RPi 3 + PecanPi DAC HAT. The PecanPi DAC HAT is what he is calling the best DAC HAT he's seen.
It sounds better than the Allo Boss version 1.2. Which All do you mean?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I was thinking of the streamer aspect of the two units, the Allo and the Pecan. But perhaps that's impossible as the Allo usbridge is only a steamer and the Pecan is a streamer/dac and the determining factor in sound is the DAC?
That’s right
Is there a way to bypass the dac from the pecanpie and use my Chord dac instead?
No. You might consider the SOtM sMS-200 or the Lindemann Limetree.
While not in the same price range where would you place the MiniDSP SHD in comparison as a Streamer, not talking of DSP settings ?
I don’t know how to answer that question...