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Classic Gaius. He started undermining Paula the moment he noticed her goals of being the leader of their little cult and of course making himself look good at the same time!! Such a lovable weasel!😂😂
"Great grandpa was a power sander!"
"Hey, laser lips. Your mama was a snow blower!"
I immediately thought of that 😂
Okay, so what was your father...? We're getting the family tree figured out.
Let`s all remember that caprica-6 is the one who fell in love with Gaius in the Mini-series! The lead guy who stole from Gaius`s cult was Kat`s boyfriend they used to be smugglers before the fall of the colonies.
Gods damn Enzo!
Ah yes there's the Ellen we all remember. And to think she accused Cavil of being consumed by jealousy.
Ellen is jealous in one area, Cavil is jealous & resentful of everything..
She's only human... oh wait a minute...lol :D
@@Markus117d and the result is the same.
@gawainethefirst Not really cavil would destroy everyone and everything, Ellen not so much. Lol.. Cavil loves nothing not even himself, Elien does love Saul & i don't see her as the genocidal type either..
Yeah, it's hilarious how quickly she goes from pious matriarch to jealous, petulant little girl as soon as she finds out Tigh is involved with someone else.
We're so close to 17 now. The episode I've been waiting for since the start.
You and me both. I'm expecting that in a certain scene, she's gonna lose her shit.... 🤣
@@SuperDave1426 Which one. I can think of 4 times
Cryptic spoilers answers below.
House plan.
guns smoke.
goodbye kisses.
Are you home dear?
@@stuartanderws5705 😉
Yes! One of my favorite BSG episodes.
“If the people we love are stolen from us, the way to have them live on is to never stop loving them. Buildings burn, people die, but real love is forever.”
RIP Brandon Lee
Goddammit, don’t do that! 😢
It can't rain all the time
Funny, because the first time she stepped off a Raptor, you hated her. :D
Gaius' role is simple, self-preservation and ego. He does whatever saves his skin whenever necessary. And when he feels safe, he does whatever polishes his ego.
BTW, another thing that makes Liam's loss so profound for Caprica Six is that she was the one who was fascinated with a human baby in the miniseries and started to cry after killing it.
32:42 Plus it's about Bill not caring Saul was Cylon, in that moment his friend needed him. And now I'm crying again.
We all need a friendship like Adama and Tigh.
@@richardtaylor1652 Absolutely. Cylon and Human hugging it out in shared pain. Beautiful.
You know, if someone said, "My grandpa survived the Holocvaust" you wouldnt exactly picture someone like Gaius, weaseling through it somehow.
You mentioned losing your sister and I wanted to share something with you, as a gesture of solidarity. My sister passed away 28 years ago today. She was 33 at the time and if affected me for many years from that point. She had two daughters who were 3 and 9 at the time. What I want to convey is, time will lessen the pain we feel for their loss. It never goes away completely but, it doesn't overwhelm me anymore. You are a strong woman and I don't know how much the loss of your sister still weighs on you. That you can openly talk about it, says you've healed very well. Just want to let you know that I can understand. Anyway, onward to the next chapter in both BSG and life in general.
🖤🖤🖤
I did expect them to lose the baby, simply because the writers wrote themselves into a corner. If a mixture of each group isn't the only way to survive then, then nothing else the wrote makes any sense.
Currently at work- but without watching it please tell me this is the episode when Saul says
“Grandpappy was a sandblaster!” 😂
Power sander. And yes lol
What’s happening to Galactica, the damages, the repairs, the cylon stuff. It creates a lot of parallels. It should all be paid close attention to.
The power sander line gets me every time 😂
Great episode! Can’t wait for your reaction to the next episode. Damn it’s good.
For those of you unfamiliar with naval parlance, the "head" means the toilet.
I'll let you extrapolate what exactly is that little project Adama was working on....
Many great (or not so great) military decisions usually had some amount of 'head time' and contemplation.
William was a name of germanic origin made of two elements meaning will and helmet, hence Wilhelm. It arrived in France with the Germanic Franks, who ultimately gave the country its name. Later it arrived in England with the Norman conquest, and eventually made its way to Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Liam is an Irish shortened form of the name, which spread to other parts of the world following the Great Irish Famine.
"Later it arrived in England with the Norman conquest"
And who was leading the conquest? *William* the Conqueror.
@@eskreskao And what was he wearing?! A helmet! And who made his helmet? A german!! It is all connected!
@@ProYadaAnd where do helmets go? On the head! And who else has heads? Russians! You see where I’m going with this?
…because I don’t.
@@AngeloBarovierSD you were so close to circling it back around to Adama's little project :P
@@eskreskao Billy to his friends
I agree that Chief sometimes has real "O'Brien must suffer" vibes in this show.
Seeing the Cylon raider flying side by side with a viper and the ending where Adama and Roslin both realize the cylons and humans have already integrated into one group much like Galactica is with the Cylon tech always stuck with me. The lines are gone its no longer just human vs Cylon the world is too complicated for that, people are too complicated man and machine. Eventually you move so far past where you started with so many changes that you can't maintain old lines in the sand and its not even really one choice its a series of choices where you don't even realize its happened. With Adama's best friend being a Cylon and near the end when he's comforting him, it isn't a man and a machine its just two people.
Liam is william, Ian is John... lol
also, i've never been the biggest tori fan. she just makes me miss billy... it's not the hatred i have for callie. just whenever she's on screen i just roll my eyes and go "ugh, why are you a character?" but i felt that even before the final 5 reveal....
and i always preferred the chief/boomer couple, but i think they've both been through a LOT since they were first together. don't know that they work together anymore. sometimes love ain't enough...
and no, trust me, you have it better with the not having to wait. the hell we had waiting between 2 parters and season finales... nope, not the business.
5:41 I always thought Saul probably did a lot of diaper duty for lee and zak when bill and his wife were fighting
Gaeta and Zarek's failed revolution was, in part, to prevent Cylons from integrating into the fleet. Due to the large number of pilots who joined the mutiny and are now incarcerated, Galactica can only assemble a CAP by integrating Cylons pilots. The mutiny had the exact opposite impact.
That and the fact that if it wasn't for the mutiny, the structural damage of Galactica wouldn't have been picked up on as soon as it was.
@richardtaylor1652 , Evidence of it might have been randomly seen elsewhere, as it was present other than in the area of the FTL. In fact, it can be argued it should have been noticed much earlier.
It may have been in other parts of the ship but most likely the crew didn't take much notice of it or didn't realise the implication of the damage like Tyrol did.
@@richardtaylor1652 This must have been the case. Otherwise, are we to believe that it just suddenly appeared everywhere, or that nobody ever went into Galactica's engine room? What about the chief engineer that we never met or heard of? We know that's a role because Pegasus had Garner. That was always a big question mark for me.
@@richardtaylor1652 , Even if only seen by others who wouldn't have been as aware of its true meaning, noticing fractures (or whatever term might be used to describe them) like these, should've reasonably caused ANYONE to bring them to the attention of someone who would know!!!
This is around the time that fans started referring to the show as Battlestar Alcoholica.
I’m so sad we’re reaching the end! … This series is amazing. Thank you for the great reaction videos. :)
Love is the necessary component for a Cylon pregnancy.
i love how much you've come to appreciate cottle
I’ve been watching this series with you as we’re nearing towards the end, thank you for making these reaction videos as it’s been fun
The moments once again between Adama and Tigh are just so freaking amazing, those 2 together are just fire on screen. The Gaius Story arc with his flock was kind of strange even on several rewatches, but it all part of Gaius growth as a character. so many emotions in this episode and so close to the end of the series. thanks again for the reactions sad to see it come to an end i have been enjoying your fresh new thoughts through this series.
'As god is my witness!'.... I thought turkeys could fly. I really imagined that in Baltar's voice.
The little detail of Adama becoming dependent on alcohol by the end of the series is really sad.
There's a saying my great grandma used to say "Dios ayuda al que se ayuda así mismo" which basically means God helps those who help themselves. What you said about thoughts and prayers reminded me of that. On a different note Tigh saying that it's not the same as Zack hit like a punch to the gut.
Indeed! In ye not so olden times, praying to God to intervene was always an act of desperation or ego. Miracles (or their reports) were no longer God’s M.O., ever since Jesus and his travelling band did the Middle East Grassroots Speaking Tour.
In modern times, the notion of the “power of prayer” returned, especially in the USA (thanks, Televangelists). For some, it now takes the place of action and responsibility. “I did my part,” say the supplicative Christians.
When I was still Christian (back when Billy Idol was the saviour, big hair was beautiful, and Superman was the greatest superhero movie ever made) prayer as a substitute for action would’ve been considered a dereliction of Christian duty.
Now, it’s a hall pass for apathy.
Liam is a short form of the Irish name Uilliam or the old Germanic name William. Or so says Wikipedia. Lol. And I don't know if you caught this but the combat air patrol that Starbuck was leading when she intercepted Boomer was made up of Vipers AND cylon heavy raiders. Together.
Awesome! I was literally just re-watching your Episode 9 video for your reaction to Adama and Roslin reuniting at the end when I saw this pop up. I just finished the series myself a few days ago, but now I'm stuck with the agonizing wait between your reactions to the final episodes, lol. I think I messed up, lol.
I was waiting for this one to drop - for everything you said last episode about Ellen being like a new person…well old Ellen is back in force this time. I HATE HER AGAIN.
I wonder how many little Gaius’ are running around in Dogsville 😂
At the time I thought his character was just awful and annoying but now I'm older and supposedly wiser I see gaius differently
I never stopped hating her lol
Also, yes, with the Final Five reunited Ellen literally disrupted the fource.
Funny isn't it? 'Cylon Ellen' resurrecting in the last episode was like a completely different person ... the second she's back with Tigh she's just toxic Ellen once again!
I'd forgot how heartbreaking this episode was: bad enough Adama was trying to hold it together as his beloved battlestar was 'cylon-ified'.... but just when that hits you, Caprica-6 losing her baby just takes a sledgehammer to what's left of your feelings, and Saul going to find Adama and breaking down in his arms is just gut wrenching!
Everyone is great in this episode as always, but one thing watching your reactions has made me realize is just how often the excellent Michael Hogan steals the frakkin show, & this is another fine example!
Can't wait to see you react to episode 17 - no spoilers, but it's really the beginning of the end!
"He's got a daddy named Forrest?" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The child that was referred to as Genius obviously wasn't Baltar's son because he was old enough that he was born well before the Cylon attack on the colonies.
Yes, I was curious what brought that on. Not a Forrest Gump situation.
"Great grandpa was a power sander"
Same ol' Ellen.
I had a feeling, so I went back to check Ellen's introduction in the series, and sure enough, sitting cross-legged in a Raptor, face obscured.
Different dress though.
With mother like Ellen I wonder where Cavil could have ever came up with his sparkling personality.
GREAT GRANDPA WAS A POWER SANDER
Also, the vulnerability that Saul and Adama with one another is beautiful. They are both very masculine, military men, but that doesn’t prevent them from loving one another deeply.
FLG "I love love"
Me "I love lamp"
Ellen died on new Caprica during the end of the occupation and at that time the resurrection hub was in range.
No such luck for Anders, with the hub destroyed and no resurrection facility nearby, like any other cylon, if he die it is over.
Adama has such love for his Battlestar which in essense is just a machine.
Finally I have caught up to all your BSG reactions.
One thing I think this show glossed over is how little the cylons knew, and the fact that they all had their minds wiped by the #1 / Cavil. You would think it would be an important, emotional, and controversial surprise that everyone would want to talk about. Adama would love to know that there was one cylon model orchestrating everything. The 6's and 8's would love to know that they were secretly betrayed and that "majority rule" wasn't actually the cylon way according to Cavil. But instead everyone acts like half this shit never happened.
I also agree that Chief and the others having totally new personalities now and wanting to leave immediately doesn't make sense either and wasn't explained. As far as we know, they don't have their entire memories back, so all their memories are just of living like normal people, and for them to want to hop onto a crippled ship with nothing and nobody they're familiar with and disappear into the void when they're being hunted by Cavil who has all their actual technology and can't be defeated by them... just makes no sense. And even if they did have all their memories back, their home was a normal planet with millions of people, so why would they want to leave their new civilization behind and just hang out with their children?
Shrug, it's normal for shows to rush and stumble toward the end, I guess. It's still good.
The next episode after this one is one of my top favorite episodes.
In the universe of Battlestar Galactica, god/gods/prophesy/visions are real. So the fact that cylons need love to reproduce shouldn't be that hard to accept.
That's exactly why it's hard to accept.
@@jerodast Sorry, I'm not following your logic.
I think that in a universe where metaphysical concepts like prophesies and visions (and by extension a guiding intelligence like god) are demonstrated to be real, the idea that an emotional bond like love as a metaphysical necessity for procreation is not a big leap to accept.
How does accepting one spiritual/metaphysical requirement make accepting another one more difficult?
Bill Adama's father also lost children before the first Cylon war to find out more about it you have to check out the prequel series Caprica. It was set about 57 years before the Battle Star Galactica mini series.
Can’t wait to see what you think of the next episode. One of my favorites of the whole series.
As you may have noticed. Now the Cylons and Humans are trying to live together, uniting into something new, upgrading the Galactica and Baseship, looking for a new home and even dying together.
It will not be easy, but for the sake of ending the cycle of hatred, we must at least try to unite.
P.S. By the way, the last Five flew relatively only a few years, but in reality 2000 years. They had engines that could fly at the speed of light.
You get me though my work day. When you finish BSG you have to watch Farscape. ❤
I just love your reactions. You never disappoint. I keep pestering my friends to watch your channel because if they're gonna talk during the show, I want them to pick up your habits. You never seem to talk over the show, you don't miss anything, and your commentary is always entertaining or emotional. Always nice to watch a hang-out professional!
Awww thank you!!!
As per the live issue and procreation and love. With humans genuine love is not required but these are Cylons. It has been mentioned throughout the series, the importance of love being involved. I don't think you can apply the same criteria about birth that humans have upon Cylons.
Liam is the Irish or Scots Gaelic version of William.
Have you ever seen Independence Day? First time I saw Laura Roslin (Mary McDonnell) as best as I remember.
How did Boomer find Galactica when the whole Cylon fleet is looking for it?
Theactressthat plays Tory interests me. Her father is (was? Let's hope not) a priest, and he was very uncomfortable with the directions her character was taking. In the interview she mentioned that, she looked halff amused and half embarassed.
I always regretted that I never saw her in more roles.
She was in _Smallville_ as a random medical person :P Vancouver casting community! Not exactly a showcase haha.
Yeeeeah...why the guns, Adama? I guess I don't remember how this plays out.
I never had any use for the Gaius cult storyline but the one thing I did catch is Paula seeming to be the only one of the flock with an ounce of skepticism or independent thought, so I guess good for her rise in station...we'll see how that goes for her!
I never thought little Gaius was Baltar's baby, his father was another Gaius.
It's a subtle way to show Baltar he's not as special as he thinks he is. There must have been a lot of people in the 12 colonies called Gaius, maybe even Gaius Baltar.
The kid looks old enough to have been born before the exodus anyway...
As a christian, when I pray about something, it's not because I'm not willing to do something. It's because I believe God can do more than whatever it is I can do. And I do then try to do whatever I can within my ability.
I mean, a couple seasons ago Head Six was talking Gaius into picking up a nuclear warhead. A crate of carbines sounds pretty harmless in comparison.
OTOH, in both cases, Gaius successfully convinced Adama to give it to him. I'm not sure what that says about either of them...
Thanks Angela
I've watched 3 of your reaction videos of BSG and I just now saw the Roci on your wall. I've been watching RUclips reactions for over a year. The algorithm is bunk. Wtf
RE: Organic Technology - Last episode you were sort of hating on it. Though it gets a bad rep in this show (and worse in Babylon 5, heh, heh, heh). If done right, it can grow on its own, self-regulate its own growth without additional programming or maintenance after the fact. It is like, why broken bones normally stop rebuilding once the mending work is done.
I think you might have been confused about the little boy Gaius. He wasn't named after Baltar, his father just happened to be named Gaius. The joke was that Baltar is so full of himself that he assumed the kid was named after him.
She literally said that.
She said, does he not remember Naia? And that there's probably a ton of little Gaiuses running around there. So it seemes like maybe she thought Baltar had gotten Naia pregnant.
@MB.543 that's a lot of words to say "I didn't watch the whole video"
@joon0 Yeah I usually don't watch the entire post-episode review. So I'm guessing she clarifies later? You could've just said that.
@joon0 And her comments during the reaction are still a bit confusing to me, if there was no misunderstanding.
3:02
"Where do battlstars go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
Go to a lake of fire and fry
See 'em again 'til the Fourth of July"
Sorry, it was the first thing I thought of.
Edit: 6:30
Pausing to say regarding the amniotic fluid, I always assumed that's what the goo is in the tub when they download. Again that's just always been my assumption. I could be wrong
25:03 Yeah the subtitler definitely messed up. Or was that her voice? 24:39, Okay there's Boomer. They did get her out of the brig. I think the editors were probably fretting that that scene was either cut or unfilmed so they wanted to dodge the fact they had to either hide her from the scenes so they made it as unobvious as possible, but still she made it in. Guess the subtitler did the job right after all.
You are truly a detective of the highest caliber, Mr. Batman :)
I'm just glad to have a few episode without the Starbuck drama-mama. We've had so many episodes that centered on her arc, and yes, I know it'll pick up again, just a nice break. It's not so much of an issue of Saul and Caprica losing a child, as much as it shows that a cylon pairing is possible. What I do find a bit disturbing about the cylon downloading process, is that there aren't different ages. I know the casting would sky-rocket to include teen-aged versions of existing cylons, but doesn't it just seem strange that Ellen came back as the same age as when she died? What about a much younger, more attractive and vibrant version of herself?
I mean, at some point in time, Saul was young, he had hair, and Ellen too would have been of the same age. Then some 20 years later, the other F5 versions would have been 'born/created'. Or did they just pop in, aged 25-30 and integrated into the fleet, or civilian positions. I question Tori, was she always such a wench, proud of her cylon heritage, or whatever element set her apart? Afterall, at some point in history Tori and Galen were a thing. Was he different way back when too, perhaps more cynical, or did he always have a soft spot for the down-trodden?
I guess what we got is what we got from the writers. Did Anders from the past fall in love with a woman named Cara Thrace, or was it just that he fell in love with the Harbinger of Death? I could almost imagine him have a tattoo of her face on his arm, a woman he only saw in his dreams. Who were the basis of the 7 cylon models? We know Ellen based 'John' on her father, but what was the precursor to Caprica, or Sharon.. were these scientists, love interests, or were these just 'examples' of humanity, packed into nice neat little digital packages?
It's sad to watch these last few episodes, it's almost as if we have come full circle. Watching them grow, emote, and fail. As a viewer, those that we hated in the beginning, we've come to have respect for... and that is great work on behalf of the writers. Still, there still feels like there was so much more 'show' to watch. Probably best to end it when they did, how they did it, and leave us with that one final question... "All of this has happened before, and it will happen again.... Unless?"
Oooooooooft. The two of them at 28:02 just... kills me.
Head-Six pops in when Baltar needs guidance, like she said a while back "I am an angel of God sent here to protect you. To guide you, to love you. "
Obligatory No One is Safe
It was so unpredictable of how Ellen was going to react about Saul and Caprica being together. Didn't know if she was going to think as a scientist and thrilled that there was going to be a pure Cylon child, or was so going to be insanely jealous and wants to destroy them. Doc Cottle saying to not unplug anything, we had an x-ray tech bring a portable x-ray machine into the ICU and she unplugged a ventilator...twice, true story.
That guy was the drug guy , cat. Wanted food.
Caprica-Six snaps an infants neck in the mini-series. Is this not poetic justice?
Caprica Six is also directly responsible for the genocide of the colonies in a way the majority of the Cylons are not. That's _why_ she has the name Caprica! Kinda funny of Roslin to start chatting with her by name as if it's just a coincidence she has the same name as the place that was Roslin's home until everyone she knew was nuked to death there.
I mean the guys attacking a six after all that went on and knowing them? yeah good luck with that...
William is Germanic, Liam is an Irish diminutive of William. If you think about it this falls into the theme of the show that you should be seeing at this point. Humanity is a creation over time of many different parts just as names are related to each other from a past root. The question still is what does it mean to be human? What does it mean to be Cylon? Is there a difference? We all started the show thinking they were just machines. As Star Trek "A Measure of A Man" said are we not all just machines created by our parent? Is how we treat them about us more than it is about them? Are they new life and part of humans that we have created. How is our humanity now defined? Its a sloppy ending to these themes but they are all there.
Sorry I missed the fact that I misspelled Gaius' name.
Gaius is such a brilliantly flawed, brilliantly written, brilliantly acted character. James Callis is an mvp among many mvps on this show.
I'm going to a little sad when your reactions to this wonderful series end. It's been a joy having you discover, and get invested in, an absolute banger of dramatic sci-fi. I really look forward to your next reactions.
I know it won't be good for the RUclips algorithm, but I encourage you to check out Farscape. Without a doubt the best sci-fi TV series ever! A little odd with 1990's aspect ratios in the first season, but it gets better. The great Jim Henson's son is the showrunner, so there is brilliant puppetry and animatronics. CGI was in its infancy, but they knocked it out of the park! Great original characters, great story arcs, fantastic writing. Definitely lots of "space shit". 😅
I hope you'll give it a chance.
I’ve started watching Farscape and it’ll be up at the end of the month
"Dozens of years of love, thousands of years of toxicity." I've never heard a more accurate description of religion.
Ouch, a reaction to one critical scene has been edited out! Approx. half of the episode... Can't say anything but I hope others have noticed too? Got just a glimpse and then, pouf, next scene.
William isn't a Scottish name, it's German and got to Britain with the Norman conquerors.
Saul and Starbuck have the best arcs in the series imo. I hated them at the beginning and they ended up as some of my favorite characters on tv.
The problem with guns is when the other guy has one and you don't, then you have a problem..
Reintroducing us to Ellen as wise, loving, and motherly, then flipping back to the Ellen we started hating, then drifting back towards something in between was amazing.
On the Anders-Liam connection and the baby's death, as I recall Liam started kicking right after Anders' brain activity flatlined. Was it cause and effect? If so, which was which? Maybe they had nothing to do with Tigh loving Six? Maybe everything? Nasty, nasty writerses. We hates them. 😆
Gaius is the perfect example of why defining God(s) according to the interpretation of individuals is flawed. If a kid tells you her grandma makes cookies from love, sunbeams, and giggles, do you assume grandma isn't real, or that the kid doesn't know how grandma makes cookies?
If you really understand how the brain works, particularly the Cylon brain, you really should publish and collect your Nobel Prize. 😉
Back in the day , there were two "crossfires" between argumentative fans who just couldn't concede :
The Atheists VS everyone else , and the Cavil was the representation of the 'perfect atheist / nihilist ' VS everyone else .
Speaking of the second supposition ... -- not so recently I saw a meme that reminded me of Cavil (aka mr. "God is dead") :
The meme had a Bible burning, with people cheering about the death of God , while the second panel had someone cracking open a book titled "Is beastiality wrong ?" -- signifying the "no guard rails (of morality) for the people who think that God is dead) .
Cavil represented that attitude, throughout BSG -- from never doubting the exterminaton of the humans, to essentially sleeping with his "mother" Ellen , to showing an interest in dissecting her brain .
There are no breaks as far as Cavil is concerned , no constraints nor boundaries are needed .
And from what I've learned from religious folks -- the above sentence for them encapsulate Atheists as a whole , while Atheists have a very different view of themselves and religious folks .
Always felt that Tyrol voting to leave was purely a story point to make Ellen the deciding factor and nothing else. It doesn't really follow who his character is. This kind of thing has happened here and there throughout the series, but I feel this happens more in season 4 where characters act unlike themselves to further the plot.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was due to the crunch, where they had to fit two seasons into one because they knew it was their last. You could give Tyrol an arc where he gets ready to leave, but they didn't have time.
@@clarkmichaels822 It's funny because whenever I rewatch season 4 I'm filled with the feeling that they were struggling with filling the time and resorted to dragging out shaggy dog stories like Tigh's prison rape affair and Gaius's cult, with just a few spots of focused storytelling like the mutiny, catching up with Ellen, and the Earth reveal. They had plenty of room for Tyrol if they cut out more of the garbage.
28:15 Vous êtes magnifique lorsque vous pleurez. 😘
Boomer need to go out an airlock.
So, Liam = William = Bill…Adama…
Two things. I don't think Tory's journey to realize the meaning and focus of her existence needs to conform to the path that appears to be congruent to the greater community which is noted as having started to form in this episode.
We dont really know much of her backstory (and it can certainly be argued the character was shoehorned in), but as with everyone else depicted, she was presented with a new life paradigm she had to process and if her determination was that it should be as a Cylon, away and apart from humans, full stop, it's a choice that's as valid as any other we've seen. One can claim, at least, she didn't hold Cavil's determination about what the fate of humans should be.
Now, you must be aware of choices she makes going forward by this point (as well as her fate, which is a different story), so I'll just say the view of what she comes to support, also doesn't hold fast to a steadfast oppositional nature, as you're positing here.
On a briefer note, as you brought it up again in the opening, ultimately, Lee hardly can be cited as a font of wise decision-making in the way Roslin counsels him to pursue. I have to imagine you already know exactly what I'm referring to, but as it's a huge matter which I'd comment on a bit, I'll hold off doing so until the time is right in your airing schedule!!!
I did half expect them to lose the child because otherwise Hera is no longer special as the only Human/Cylon hybrid
Hera would still be special, as a half-breed. The baby would of been pure Cylon. Both important, but not the same nor affect each others role
I had a moderate "we're really spinning our wheels for the final season huh" feeling about Gaius's cult and Tigh's prison rape-based affair, so to the extent I even thought about them, neither one really amounting to anything was not a shocker.
But.........wasn't it Boomer who shot Adama, way back when?
Hope you react to X-Men 97. The midway point was just reached. Screencrush released a 37 minute recap video of the key points of the original series if you wanna familiarize yourself before jumping in. The new show is surpassing the original.
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The civil war plotline was much longer. With the war and the mutiny the Galatica is short marines. Roslin , Bill and the Cylon considered using Centurions as a food security force.
You really need to watch Blood and Chrome after you've finished the series.