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  • @williamtempleton7259
    @williamtempleton7259 Месяц назад +2

    Was suprised there was no mention of HoJ, dropped off anger forge in p1
    Is crazy for threat due to double maul right?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +3

      i bumped hoj down the list this time around, ever since they changed how batching works you cannot double maul anymore with hoj, if you could i would have gave it a special mention. as of right now i think mark of chosen is superior to hoj. Mark of the chosen gives you a stat line of 50 AP, 1.25 crit. 1.25 dodge and 300 health after bearform stam is applied when it procs. which is often and lasts a full minute so if you're trash pulling quickly it's uptime can be quite impressive.

    • @williamtempleton7259
      @williamtempleton7259 Месяц назад +1

      @@Germanicus46 makes sense - thanks. Any mention of manual crowd pummeler for the threat spike??

    • @FelixMBlume
      @FelixMBlume 7 дней назад

      @@williamtempleton7259 the tankiness from Warden Staff is wayy too crazy, I guess thats why he assigned other slots for threat gen

    • @doctranate
      @doctranate 2 дня назад

      Have you tested this on anniversary? I got mine tonight and it definitely appears to be proccing double mauls.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  День назад

      @ ill do some testing, last time i tried it wasnt proccing double mauls. just a maul with an extra white hit. if it double mauls... hoj is king. we shall see

  • @Lukenukem67
    @Lukenukem67 Месяц назад +8

    I had a hell of a time in MC last night. I was off tanking and doin cat things otherwise. It was my first raid ever not healing so I felt very lost in the sauce. I found myself decursing like a madlad and also focusing more on picking up extra adds than damage. We cleared MC and ony and I was analyzing what I did/could have done different when I hopped on YT and this vid dropped. Exactly what I needed to see. From the look of things I was performing correctly, I just need to sharpen it up a bit. Don't stop droppin vids, gamer. This helped immensely.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +4

      that makes me so happy man, thats what its all about for me. thanks for telling me i helped you out man, makes my day.
      you got the right stuff as a druid if you were just doing all of that naturally before my guide haha. you're gonna make it king!

    • @Lukenukem67
      @Lukenukem67 Месяц назад

      @@Germanicus46

  • @GibbyWoW
    @GibbyWoW Месяц назад +9

    You're not a trash man, you're a custodian (of nature).

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      lmfao i need you to co-write my scripts! perfect

  • @mariuscroitoru4983
    @mariuscroitoru4983 Месяц назад +3

    Germanicus, don’t you ever forget:
    You’re a legend and a great dude.
    Thanks for the video, even though i am not a druid this time around, i will always be a druid.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      thank you so much dude, i always appreciate kind words :) love the community so im always happy to give back and crank out a video yall want.

  • @Byhythloh
    @Byhythloh 12 дней назад

    14:15 I knew it! All that time my wife was screaming from outside the room saying I was a "Trash man". She was just shouting words of encouragement and support for my bear tanking! :P

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  11 дней назад

      exactly! she was just trying to help your mindset for the full bear tank experience!

  • @soup5220
    @soup5220 Месяц назад +4

    My controversial take: Thick hide isn't worth the talent point cost. I prefer to go with 2/2 improved shred and 2/2 blood frenzy and 1/3 master shapeshifter, but I shift to DPS when I don't have an assigned target. I do try not to OOM myself though, just in case I need to quickly swap to bear.
    My bear gear leans a bit more toward survivability to make up for it though (pads of the dread wolf instead of shadefiend, will of the martyr over mark of fordring, 100 hp leg/helm enchants). Even still, I also went with Blackhand's Breadth. It helps in both bear and cat and lasts SO long. As a sidenote though, if you do want an armor trinket - make Smoking Heart of the Mountain. 150 armor with +7 all resist. It is BoP from enchanting though, so you have to level that to 265 at least. I always level as skinning/leatherworking so that I can use the free leather to level my leatherworking, and then I drop skinning for enchanting to make this trinket. I then drop enchanting to pick up eng or if my guild needs I go back to skinning. Use of the trinket is very situational, but it is nice to have in your toolkit.
    Was waiting the whole video to hear about MCP. I agree and also don't feel they are necessary as a bear. HOWEVER, I personally think you should still farm them. Every class has to farm consumables one way or another whether it's farming gold or mats. MCP is hands down the biggest increase available, 100% free, and the farm is simple. I assume that anyone who complains about farming MCP either buys gold to spend on their consumables, or just shows up to raid without them like a total scrub.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +3

      that all makes complete sense to me. this is a great example of why i said the video was just my ''argument''. theres so many great ways to play feral and your comment is perfect example of that. i used to go all in on smoking heart of the mountain myself but it ended up in a similar spot to mark of tyranny, just rarely used. i pretty much always ran threat trinkets except for like... our FIRST patchwerk kill in 2019. i ran some armor for that and then never again lol.
      Great points about MCP. deff worth the farm but the hype is overblown... YOU NEED 99 PUMMELERS TO BE A FERAL - average wow guy haha

  • @josecoreas7811
    @josecoreas7811 Месяц назад +2

    Very nice guide! Please consider doing a guide for cat DPS next!

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +3

      thank you sir, i will :) i need to do a little more exploration of cat dps before i can consider myself an authority on it though.

  • @Simao5687
    @Simao5687 Месяц назад

    Great Vid, King. Keep up the good work

  • @simonking9467
    @simonking9467 День назад

    Is a two drop for points from thick hide into natural shapeshifter good for powershifting?

  • @RageBubbles
    @RageBubbles 25 дней назад

    Finally someone who understands that gear for feral tank is subjective

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      im glad you appreciate that fact too i tried to stress it lol. this was my argument, that is all XD

  • @josephneely
    @josephneely 20 часов назад

    Thanks for the video! Now that we’re into MC and Ony on anniversary servers, what upgrades are you going with to prepare for BWL coming soon?

  • @connavear1
    @connavear1 Месяц назад

    Really useful content 👍
    Please keep it up.

  • @asfasdfsd8476
    @asfasdfsd8476 26 дней назад +1

    Germanicus its time for PvP mixed gear set video since p2 is soon.
    Also how to do warstomp regrowth properly? I use castsequence and rogues still insert kick

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад +1

      its coming dont worry :) and im not sure whatcha mean, if theyre not stun DR'd at all you should just be able to barely get the regrow off

    • @doctranate
      @doctranate День назад

      I usually stomp > root > abolish and distance them assuming outdoors and ff applied. Root is 1.5s so it gives you more breathing room. Bit you should be able to get a regrowth off, just dangerous cuz no time to get back into bear if the rog is good

  • @dirtbagmoto
    @dirtbagmoto Месяц назад

    This was great! Thank you for the tips.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      no problem king im happy it helped you

  • @galialejandroramosarrua9279
    @galialejandroramosarrua9279 11 дней назад +1

    Guide of Feral Dps Phase 2 pls

  • @FelixMBlume
    @FelixMBlume 3 дня назад

    You think the hammer from dire maul is a good alternative to warden staff? It has almost the same stats

  • @FelixMBlume
    @FelixMBlume 3 дня назад

    Do you think this build works well for cat form too with some adjustments like MCP instead of warden staff for ppl who wanna duo cat/bear

  • @apprenticekaoenview2388
    @apprenticekaoenview2388 Месяц назад +1

    I found this inspiring cause ive debating if i wanna focus on feral or resto. im a pvp'er at heart, and im almost 60, been real busy. but should have alot of time this week. one thing i didnt see in the video was: do you generally dps as cat on boss where your not needed for trash? or are you mostly always bear? P.S will you be streaming again soon?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      happy to hear you find it inspiring king, i mostly stay bear. like i said in the video, i like to fight for 2nd threat on bosses, just as a safety net. after christmas will be some days for streaming :)

    • @apprenticekaoenview2388
      @apprenticekaoenview2388 Месяц назад

      @@Germanicus46 look forward to it!

  • @vud00
    @vud00 Месяц назад

    another great guide germ! thank you -wudoo

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      glad to be of service sir! no problem

  • @chrismanning2167
    @chrismanning2167 7 дней назад

    late comment but wondering if you had advice for being a giga dungeon tank druid, im on HC so def playin a little safe but wondering for aoe threat etc if trying to heal before pulls and all that is the way to go, and is gear different since hit cap isnt 9? thank!

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  5 дней назад

      in dungos, you wont be needing 9 hit. 6 at the most i believe i could be wrong. i would def heal before pulls and throw grenades at whatever im pulling. and wear more defense gear, on hardcore

  • @CrimsonArc71
    @CrimsonArc71 Месяц назад +1

    Besides Mark of the Chosen, any other major changes for an Alli Druid?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      you could probably run more pieces of defense, dealers choice so long as you keep the 9 hit

  • @Krova
    @Krova 22 дня назад

    can't get your link to work to see it, just sends me to my own? Really appreciate the videos!

  • @usedcolouringbook8798
    @usedcolouringbook8798 Месяц назад +1

    Wait, because druids don't use weapon skill in forms, they don't receive ANY benefit from that other than just having a flat % chance?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      theres no benefit from weapon skills in form at all. you need 9% cause of that

  • @asfasdfsd8476
    @asfasdfsd8476 Месяц назад +1

    Nice! Like before watching

  • @ZakPrestor
    @ZakPrestor Месяц назад +2

    As a Druid with 19 years of experience your guide is not quite correct:
    1. Druid can MT MC with ease, there are only a few bosses (Garr, Geddon) where a Warr is considerably better. In BWL Tanks outscale Druid significantly, so the optimal role is OT. Bears in pre-BiS are so much beefier, have so much more armour and evasion than a pre-BiS Warr it's not even a competition. Factor in MCP with insane threat generation, and you are the best tank until Warrs get their MC BiS. Basically you build full tank Bear and then compensate the lack of aggro by factoring in MCP.
    2. Ferals are not substandard trash unless players position themselves. If the guild treats a player as a garbage only because he doesn't play "meta" -- leave. If the guild refuses a player fair share of the loot -- just leave the guild and search the one you'll be appreciated.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +2

      i disagree king i dont think bears should be anywhere near the MT role in any phase.
      While its true were very strong in the early phase i still think a warrior is default the better tank. while its totally fine and doable as a bear, warrior is less subject to bad RNG. a warrior has more ways to snap threat right off the bat than a druid. even with pummelers ive had openers such as parry parry parry. in that time a dps warrior dies from pulling threat or worse. warriors can experience that too, but they have far more ways of dealing with it than we do. theyre attacking faster while dual wielding, and have bloodthirst.
      also i think you misunderstood, i didnt call us bear druids trash, i said we are trash men. we are there to clean up the mess others create. and you can feel however you want about druids personally but that doesnt change the way people will treat you in game, and if you're going into this blind its good of me to warn druids what theyre getting into.
      there were guilds who initially meme'd on me being feral but quickly came to appreciate me after raiding, some people need to be shown. cant take it personally. I appreciate your thoughtful comment friend, keep in mind this whole video was an argument not stated as absolute fact :)

  • @gamerjorts
    @gamerjorts Месяц назад +1

    I don't bother with warden staff, Impervious Giant from BRD is free and super good enough, and the 1% hit opens other gearing options.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      pretty solid choice, and the 1% hit is super nice. i just feel really good about threat where im at already, i feel like i can sacrifice just a bit for massive defense increase

    • @soup5220
      @soup5220 Месяц назад

      Don't forget that you can add iron counterweight to Impervious Giant which you cannot do with Warden Staff. IMO you should have both though so you can swap to warden staff for harder hitting bosses, or just times where you're like off to the side tanking something that no one else is attacking and you don't need to be pumping threat to make your healer's life easier.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      @@soup5220 definitely having both is a great option, i just lean so hard on warden staff for defense and almost the entire rest of the set is aggro centric, no reason not to run both as you said though.

  • @Boss-dk7cn
    @Boss-dk7cn Месяц назад +2

    I want to see full run in MC to to learn in practice 😍

  • @Vanaolla
    @Vanaolla Месяц назад +1

    I levelled a warlock to 40 as my first character a few weeks ago, got bored of it, and swapped over to Druid today. Got it to level 17. Seems a lot more fun. I’m gonna be no lifing next two weeks, I understand it may be hard to find a raid as a Druid, which spec will be easiest to find a raid with? If it were up to me I would want to tank, if possible.

    • @Variia
      @Variia 27 дней назад

      Tanking as bear is boring as fuck, you have literally nothing to press. Dont waste your life on that spec, wait til tbc

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      @@Variia lies brother

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      the easiest way to join a raid will probably be as resto, for the most part anyway. people will always look sideways at feral unless you perform on a high level

  • @usedcolouringbook8798
    @usedcolouringbook8798 Месяц назад +1

    Do cat bleeds increase their threat when in bear form?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      not completely sure on that one brother. i would assume they do slightly because of the talent feral instinct

  • @kenodreitz3006
    @kenodreitz3006 3 дня назад

    Hey mate, is the Idol from Stratholme now available? If not you know in which Patch this comes out? Thanks

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  3 дня назад +1

      its not available atm, not sure which phase. AQ i think

  • @kimbah
    @kimbah 7 дней назад

    Excellent video my friend

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  5 дней назад +1

      thank you brother, appreciate you sayin so

  • @apprenticekaoenview2388
    @apprenticekaoenview2388 Месяц назад +1

    Oh Germ, during thise phase do you mostly use this gear for pvp too?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  14 дней назад

      mostly yeah for pvp i just swap shoulders to deaths clutch

  • @AgressifIsGod
    @AgressifIsGod 29 дней назад

    How do I put on my pre bis items on sixtyupgrades?
    Never used the site and don't find the phase 1/pre bis setting.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      when you go to create a set on sixtyupgrades or auto fill one, it asks what phase of gear you're wanting.

  • @darkcymruchannel5683
    @darkcymruchannel5683 11 дней назад

    if those are a min max righty chicken wings degen then pummeler is req

  • @michaelpapaelias1787
    @michaelpapaelias1787 15 дней назад

    Does warden staff do well for PvP too? I wanna off tank but also dual spec for PvP. Cheers man

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  14 дней назад +1

      i switch to warden staff vs rogues all the time :)

  • @FanOfGerm
    @FanOfGerm Месяц назад

    How does this help us for TBC?! What class will you partner with in arenas next year? You + cyclone = Godly!

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      lmfao idk if im goin TBC king. we'll see :)

  • @Bellevue_hc
    @Bellevue_hc 5 дней назад

    BEARS UNITE!

  • @kalleranki2226
    @kalleranki2226 18 дней назад

    are there any updates on pre bis on dire maul launch?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  17 дней назад +1

      not a whole lot, the maul comes out which can be a stand in for wardens staff, and theres a 15 agi 1 hit ring. theres also a quest that gives you a 30 str 1 crit maul. pretty neat.

    • @kalleranki2226
      @kalleranki2226 17 дней назад

      @@Germanicus46 should I be switching warden staff to that 30str maul in some situations? In second on threat tanking for example

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  16 дней назад

      @@kalleranki2226 you definitely could i switch weapons on bosses all the time. if you trust your heals do it

  • @zythri69
    @zythri69 Месяц назад +3

    W video

  • @claing17
    @claing17 Месяц назад

    Scuba Cops! haha i remember you guys from Nost.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      haha yup theyve been around for a bit

  • @mcfarvo
    @mcfarvo Месяц назад

    You can tell Germanicus is a selfless lover-errr, I meant to say, "raider," yeah, a "selfless raider."

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      lmfao, it may be in my nature :)

  • @Rupert40k
    @Rupert40k 19 дней назад

    Thank you Prof, not tempted by alliance for BoK? 😘

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  19 дней назад

      lmfao naw man, you guys have to fight Orcs and shamans, and Orc shamans. no thanks :)

  • @Bryu-le3pq
    @Bryu-le3pq Месяц назад +1

    0 priests? They just slow levelling or just how your guild/buddies played out?

    • @potatoslim2332
      @potatoslim2332 Месяц назад

      I just noticed that too. I was chuckling remembering how in 2019 classic I first leveled a druid to 60 and got nonstop whispers for guild invites. Not a popular class at 60!

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      we have priests i promise you, my elv ui is just scuffed to hell and no matter what i do it will NOT show groups 7 and 8 in a raid. outside a raid it does. LOL idk you can see me pull the groups out of the raid frame early in the video so i can keep an eye on them

    • @Bryu-le3pq
      @Bryu-le3pq Месяц назад

      @@potatoslim2332 As in there not many druids so you were in demand?Wonder if its the same this time around.

    • @Bryu-le3pq
      @Bryu-le3pq Месяц назад

      @@Germanicus46 Ok that makes sense. Have never seen an MC without 4+ priests so was curious.

  • @Krais3r
    @Krais3r Месяц назад

    Hell yeah brother

  • @javierpet305
    @javierpet305 6 дней назад

    Not taking feral charge is diabolical

  • @huehuehuey5055
    @huehuehuey5055 Месяц назад

    immediate bookmark

  • @Pwood1488
    @Pwood1488 Месяц назад

    I've heard [Impervious Giant] with Iron counterweight (3% attack speed) is waaaay better than warden staff, what do you think?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +1

      its a great weapon and solid choice, no doubt about that at all. i just prefer warden staff, i feel like i have enough threat in that set to warrant a more defensive option like warden

    • @Pwood1488
      @Pwood1488 Месяц назад +1

      @@Germanicus46 Thanks for the answer king, keep pumping out more videos!

    • @ucuvibjonlkbivyucfgvjhb
      @ucuvibjonlkbivyucfgvjhb 27 дней назад

      @@Germanicus46 What about Unyielding Maul
      from dire maul tribute? It gives marginally worse stats than warden staff, but it allows you to apply the same counterweight and it's cheaper.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      @@ucuvibjonlkbivyucfgvjhb i mentioned it quickly maybe i shoulda put it on screen, but yes thats a great alternative to warden staff, but alas it is not phase one :) and this was a p1 guide

  • @MrEive
    @MrEive 19 дней назад

    if this is your prebis, what is the bis then :P thanks for the guide

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  17 дней назад +1

      bis isnt far off from this. phase 1 bis is just ony neck, wristguards of stability, and accuria lol.

  • @frostyascent1295
    @frostyascent1295 Месяц назад +1

    this dude went for crit over armor and 1%dodge trinket is actually criminal

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +2

      CANT STOP ME. IM LOOSE AND ON THE RUN CRITTING EVERY MOB

    • @brandonmcnemar3477
      @brandonmcnemar3477 21 день назад

      Yeah, if you plan to tank you have to grab the mark of tyranny instead. +Armor on any item that doesn't usually have armor is what makes druid tank more viable.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  21 день назад

      @@brandonmcnemar3477 i disagree, the trinket usually just rots for me on horde side. you need aggro trinkets like BHB. suitability shouldnt be an issue if you're running the right consumes

    • @Average1212
      @Average1212 21 день назад +1

      @@brandonmcnemar3477if you are stacking armor you aren’t in a pumper group. Just like a warrior you only mitigate what you need to and then pure threat

  • @benderbg
    @benderbg Месяц назад

    Blizzard fingered hybrids so hard when they made us choose between bis caster and bis melee trinket from the same quest. Picking Blackhand's Breadth vs Eye of the Beast is basically cementing feral or resto/moonkin role for the foreseeable future. There are no good alternatives to those trinkets. Its a complete pooper move that stinks 20y later.

    • @ixplain
      @ixplain Месяц назад

      @@benderbg bis tank trinket too

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      yeaaah theyre really make ya choose right then and there. thankfully feral is always the correct choice :)))))

  • @saveadog64
    @saveadog64 Месяц назад

    A HWAT NOW?

  • @powerfulnoun2608
    @powerfulnoun2608 27 дней назад

    Thick hide is a waste of 5 talent points

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  25 дней назад

      theres no where else to put those 5 points really unless you wanted to hybrid cat. thats why i advised taking two out and putting two into imp shred.
      you could go further with it sure, i just dont cat much in raids so theres really only one place to put those 5 points.

    • @davidf5224
      @davidf5224 18 дней назад

      Idk i mean 10% contribution from items is pretty good isn't it?

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  17 дней назад

      @@davidf5224 its good, just mediocre really. 5 point investment for 10% is tough. just nowhere else to put the points really

  • @ixplain
    @ixplain Месяц назад +2

    Wrong trinkets. You want the 180 Armor one from the quest over blackhands because it is BiS forever and you want to skill Enchanting, craft the trinket there(which is also your BiS for the entire expansion). your threat trinkets will be HoJ and mark instead.

    • @soup5220
      @soup5220 Месяц назад

      No

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      i disagree, as i stated in my explanation for why i took BHB, you dont need the armor trinkets and in my experience you will struggle with threat on just about anything in AQ (bosses especially like twin emps) you simply cannot wear armor trinkets on horde with a super aggro warrior core. also you cant double maul with hoj anymore, so i would put it far down the list for aggro trinkets.

  • @Marck2918
    @Marck2918 Месяц назад

    CAT plis dude ,

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      maybe eventually. im not as experienced with cats as with bear.

    • @Marck2918
      @Marck2918 Месяц назад

      @Germanicus46 yeah, thanks dude

  • @russelladams9147
    @russelladams9147 Месяц назад +1

    In other words...roll another class, lol - or, just wait for BGs. Sigh. I already have a full time job + - not sure I need a part time one :(

    • @TheKillaification
      @TheKillaification Месяц назад +2

      Why do you need to treat this as a part time job? - just play as much as you want. If times an issue classic wow probably not for you.

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад +3

      its not so bad just slowly chip away at prebis my king :)

    • @gamerjorts
      @gamerjorts Месяц назад +1

      This game isn't for you. Put the credit card away and play something else.

  • @PaulSmith-fd2gy
    @PaulSmith-fd2gy Месяц назад

    This just tells me anyone with a wow account can make videos for no reason

    • @Germanicus46
      @Germanicus46  Месяц назад

      huh?

    • @kingtuts915
      @kingtuts915 Месяц назад

      this comment just tells me there are still a large number of fat noobs playing this game like OP