Greatum the greatest Combine religion with politics result is self destruction Political wing of sgpc is sad, the badals Babay da rule dekya Raja da rule dekya Marasi jagnu khalistani ka be rule dekhya Bus aub tere bari ha Print kay sciencedan
Sikhs are devout to their faith not their institutions. SGPC has failed the community and has done nothing about rampant conversions. Instead, SGPC choses to legitimize Bhindrawale. Misplaced priorities abandoned the community.
Centralizing a religion is always a bad idea. SGPC was bound to fail. However, you should not be hasty in judging Bhindranwale. You should read his full history. I know he did many bad things but even at its peak, Punjabi Hindus did not suffer like the Kashmiri Pandits. Bhindranwale was a product of Congress. The INC created him to dim the rise of Akalis. It was also during the era of some the dirtiest politics orchestrated by Congress against Punjab and particularly Sikhs. India was hosting Asian Games at that time and Sikhs were humiliated and searched on Punjab-Delhi road. Congress did not follow through on promises made to Punjab. Bhindranwale became a symbol of resilience against Delhi's oppression.
@@sankalp6872Every revolutionary chose to give up their life rather than sacrifice others lives. Bhindrawale, deliberately chose to sacrifice others lives rather than his own. He was a terrorist that the Congress incubated and SGPC choses to legitimize him despite his terrorism. No amount of “oppression” can justify the rampant Anti-Hinduism Bhindrawale was spewing especially in Vancouver, Canada.
@@libshastra I take your point and I agree that there is no "justification" for Bhindranwale's act. The man was a terrorist. I do not sympathize with the "legend". However, I have a problem with the fact that the Punjab insurgency ends with a full stop on Bhindranwale. Congress was his partner in crime. In fact, he was their "Frankenstein's monster". This should be added to the "legend" of Bhindranwale. Congress should NOT get a free pass over this. Only a selective narrative is paddled over Bhindranwale because it suits his followers and absolves Congress of its role in the insurgency.
I really appreciate the fact that the British and Nehru didn't establish an SGPC-like organization for Hindus. Decentralization is the only reason, Hinduism is now progressing. Caste as an identity might remain but the negatives aspects like discrimination are likely to dissipate over the next few decades. Economics+Migration+Urbanization+inter caste marriages have really blurred the caste lines.
British definitely did try to centralize Hinduism (HRCE), heck even Hindus tried it (Arya and Brahmo Samaj etc.). They all failed because each time, they excluded the most devout abandoned their own community. Relevance matters more than dogma.
@@libshastra Wrong take about Arya Samaj. Its a mainly North Indian movement, as it was launched there. My Grandpa used to donate money & go to Arya Samaj Yagyas. He told me Arya Samaj was never formed to proselytize or correct faith of people. My family followed Sanatani Hinduism & Arya Samaj preaches Vedic Hinduism. But their Schools & Colleges have done a great service to North Indians. Even Bhagat Singh & Dr. Manmohan Singh studied in colleges established by Arya Samajis. In Central & Southern India it could not take roots.
@@xenon_59atleast he from true name not like u coward what instigate u to misbehave with this guy he is talking truth even I always thinks where those krapandhari khalsas when these missionary openly convert here in punjaab but that's the crux they khalistani want money and citizenship from Europe and us thata why they permit it that's how they will save religion 😂😂😂 it's all money making politics
Kejriwal is doing same as Sonia with Punjab. Like bringing Punjab into national politics for their political gains and driving Punjab youth for their political campaigns and protests. Common Punjab people should awake and reject these political parties. With this chaos no investor is going to invest and it will increase unemployment and force people to migrate for jobs. State has most hard working people, if you drive them for development agenda there will be miracles in the state.
it not only takes a deep sense of knowledge, but a kind of attachment towards the topics you speak on, that distinguishes you from the other journalists. And that is precisely what brings me to listen to your podcasts. My immense respect to you Mr. Gupta. As a Sikh, It saddens me to see the kind of politics that is the SGPC. Sikhism, to me is a way of life, the gurdwara a beacon to my faith. What a royal mess this group has made of it.
SGPC in Haryana Delhi Bihar Maharashtra r all controlled by BJP frontmen. Even In Punjab Akali dal badal still is frontmen of BJP, they r gun for hire even still trying best to have alliance with BJP but BJP knows that akali dal is lost cause in Punjab with 15% vote share and 4 MLAs out of 117 MLAs. SGPC Punjab is fully controlled by Akali dal now akali dal want that SGPC should start radicalism in Punjab so that BJP would start feeling to negotiate with Akali dal but this will not work.
@@gigachad_6862 what SGPC does in India is quite different from what they do abroad. SGPC abroad don't recognize Ramdasias Gurudhwaras and have reduced themselves to a Jat only congregation. SGPC abroad also platforms the worst elements of Khalistanis - Nijjar was quite buddy-buddy with SGPC.
Thank you for appreciating and supporting our journalism, Vijay. I'm glad you found this episode insightful. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu i always see such comments and I laugh with face in my palm. Only fool will think RSS control gurudwara. RSS can't even control Hindu temples forget about controlling others religious institutions. Our temples are in government control and also our donation is being taxed to funds minorities like Christians and Muslims. 😂😂
Sikhs have problem with BJP. But BJP is the only party which talks about illegal conversion in Punjab. Which celebrated birthday of giri govind singh in patna in grand way. Which celebrated nanak jayanti all around the world. Just irrational hate for a party. But they vote for a party which did 1984 😐
I don't know about all Sikhs but I can say why I hate BJP - because they are communal, simple! Now you know! I hate any party or person who asks votes on the basis of their religion.
@@jaswindersinghnarula4379 So when Gurus were defending all Dharams and Pants of their motherland , were they communal? Donno abt BJP ministers, but core ideology of BJP founders was to protect all indigenous worship ways of this subcontinent even the Nature worshipping animists Tribals. Abrahamic religions has no secularism, they are expansionist to core, no matter how much secular woke you try to be, they will not Miss the opportunity to convert ur relatives or neighbour. Standing against conversions is communal? Thn its duty of every indigenous native of this land to be "communal"
Unity holds immense power for a Nation. When people come together despite differences, they achieve great feats, foster resilience, and create a sense of belonging and collective strength.
@@mg.f.9023 Your "quam" is in the business of polarizing people. In fact, they polarized it so much that created a separate nation for themselves. Also, you are the one who keeps spamming in every video.
In our villages all youths Sikh have shaved, this includes people who are above 50 also, blue turbaned akalis are renowned thugs interested in property dealing ,drug & arms smuggling
I don't think the faith of Sikhs have decline instead they are fed up by religious politics either by sgpc or SAD. I have many sikh friends and we regularly visit gurudwara.
Meanwhile Hindus are blindly jumping into cesspool of religious political Nexus. Looking at Hindus of today Sikhs who saw 80s have sense of deja vu as in we have been there before.
SGPC is an anti-Hindu, anti-India organization managed by a family run political party called Akali Dal. To confirm my claims, look at the books published by SGPC and their demands in general.
I have been thinking about this for some time. What blunder BJP would have committed to not attract Sikh community towards them but rather repel. Now this cut the clutter episode clears some part of my wonderment. The other part that is unclear is- what factors motivated Akali dal and the BJP to take such a short sighted decision to exclude large sections of Sikh community from voting in the SGPC in the late 90s
I will hazard a guess. BJP was a minority party dependent on NDA partners for its survival in the Lok Sabha. Politicians of Shiromani Akali Dal had a great influence and in the true sense of tail wagging the dog, they got Vajpayee government to issue notifications that helped SAD and SGPC such that both became more inter-dependent and both had greater influence over politics of Punjab. In state assembly, BJP was just riding piggy back on SAD support and helped in diverting urban Hindu votes to the SAD-BJP alliance. SAD-BJP alliances turned Punjab into a den of short-sighted corrupt politicians and land of drug runners. No industry prospered. People of Punjab, disappointed by their elected leaders, tried Congress, which continued to disappoint. There being no traditional alternative, people of Punjab are presently experimenting with AAP. Let us see if there is hope yet for Punjab. So to answer your question, self interest and short-sightedness has pushed Sikh electorate away from SAD and BJP.
@@raghvinderjoshi4667 thanks for the background. such a shame! I really wish there is a solution to bring Punjab back to glorious days. With AAP’s inexperience, the next 5 year term is not promising either. I would be surprised if BJP local leaders are not thinking through this. Are there any capable BJP/ SAD leaders left in the region?
The reality is that Guru Nanak's religion was universal and expansive - Hindus and Muslims flocked to it. Modern identity politics has inversed that path, with purity to identity being held as critical and universal appeal of the faith being considered less so.
Sikhs are an enigma !. Congress under Indira Gandhi desecrated the holiest of the holy shrines yet they Voted and continue to vote and support the Congress. Sikhs were massacred by the Congress goons in 1984 in Delhi and elsewhere in the country.. Yet the Sikhs in Punjab and across the country vote for the Congress. Sikhs are the most close knit religious group in India, yet a large number of them convert to christianity ; the largest conversions amongst any religious group ! Sikhs are much more liberal, and have the concept of equality and brotherhood built in within the religion, yet there are a sizeable number of SC Sikhs amongst the community and who feel as aliensted as other SCs feel amongst Hindus in general, if not more ! Sikhs as a community loved Indian Punjab, (particularly after they lost West Punjab to Muslims and Pakistan after Bharat was partitioned in 1947 and Lahore and Nankana Sahab were lost to Pakistan) the most amongst other religious groups loved their areas of concentration. Yet we see the immigration out of Punjab to other States and abroad is highest amongst them ! Sikhs are the most patriotic community among all other communities in Bharat, yet the separatist tendency for a separate State of Khalistan is the highest amongst this nationalist group ! Punjab and the Sikhs were, and still are, amongst the most prosperous states in India, yet inequalities and grievances amongst them against the system are highest in India ? ........ Lot of research is needed to understand our Sikh brothers of Punjab !
You forgot the biggest enigma of this community They have always punched way beyond their weight 2% of the population and how eventful and distinguished history they had
@@Simransingh355-u1l Please do not forget till the 1960s and from 1700 AD only, every Hindu contributed to our Sikh army the eldest son that kept the great, patriotic Sikh population growing. Unfortunately, things are different now and the Sikhs are dwindling in numbers ! I hope you don't need any further proofs of that ?
DAO wins nothing else. learn from Hindus. Christianity particularly church based and its attendance has declined sharply in western countries. Once Modernisation comes to Islamic countries same will follow. DAO wins (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). Thats why Hinduism will win. Have multiple strands, multiple gurus, no 1 entity to control. Each guru is authority onto himself. Yes there will be decline and change in purity of pratices and the best will emerge but ur overall faith will win
That is quite a big generalization. DAO wins only if DAO has a supporting central political power to control the chaos. There is no growth without centralization. Hindus have been late in this business i would say. Hinduism is in vogue because of BJP which is a centralized political power holding authority. Take out BJP and then your theory of DAO will collapse.
Convertion is high bcoz Sikhs r not a homogeneous group we have different varieties of Sikhs. There r schedule class Sikhs who were scheduled class Hindus once. They thought they would have better standard of living under Sikhism. Till 1947, It was good as very large number of majhabi Sikhs/ dalit Sikhs were in I dian army as of higher caste. Jat or khatri sikhs. Even Sikhs had large land holdings, big business so lower caste Sikhs were well accomodated. But After 1947, state patronize and wealth of Sikhs declined. In 1960s , 1970s due to mechanised farming SC Sikh labour become unemployable and dependence of lower and upper caste declined resulted in more caste discrimination in Sikhism. Even Govt of India, sponsored Deras like Radha swami, Ram Rahim Sacha Sauda, Nirankaris, Namdharis, Nanaksaris etc at least 2 thousand Deras so Sikh population is further divided. Christianity is increasing in Punjab especially Dalit/ majhabi/chamar Sikhs as gurudwaras don't accommodate them. Neither given them entrance to community kitchen to cook, yes they can eat langar but not cook in many village gurudwaras nor gurudwara gave utensils to dalit Sikhs for family function as Gurudwara manager jats think that these lower caste Sikhs will not return their utensils back😅. Christianity is taking advantage of that, Christian missionaries provide free education health care to dalit Sikh and Hindu Punjabis, even if main bread winner dies, last rituals r performed by Christian missionaries along with widow children receive monthly allowance. Only thing I am not able to understand that from where money is coming. All the foreign aid to India, I think is diverted into such missionaries work. I also feel that Higher caste Sikhs should understand seriousness of situation and act responsibly.
Radical, Rich, Educated, illiterate but modest wealth Sikhs all r going abroad. I wish best of Luck to UP Bihari bhayias with "abb tumharey hawaley watan sathio"😅 But the worst part is bhayias also started sending their kids to canada in Punjab. My electrician who is bihari Hindu sent his daughter in Canada recently. Even few auto rickshawala from UP Bihar in Punjab have enrolled their kids in IELTS and PTE centres😅
It is a phase all religions have their ups and downs. Religions reinvent themselves as an organic living organisms. Hinduism has three different categories like Bhakti movement of Kabir Mira adi shankara chariya when it was loosing ground to Islam, Brahminiculture helped Hinduism rediscovered and overthrow Buddhist kingdoms in India while Tantaric Hinduism/ tuna totka/ kala jado also helped adhiwasi lower caste Hindus to organise as they can't pay heavy tributes to Brahmins for Puja archana. But over the time, Hinduism keep evolving now it has 100s of different dimension. One Hinduism form is Nirgun Nirankar that oppose idols like Arya samaj while other do idolatry. Swami Narayan is almost become seperate religion along with Lingayas and Nagas in South India who don't think they r Hindus anymore. Similarly, Sikhs will evolve Rich educated will have course correction in Sikhism.
I think, as a nation we are going backwards in religious thinking and beliefs. Our scientific temperament is not increasing and actually it is decreasing. May be it is more visible bcz of social media but we are not progressing cerebrally.
But why Shekar Gupta is covering the SGPC elections mechanism and rules..what does it have relevance in indian politics? Why doesn't he cover other religions
I am grateful that someone of Shekhar Gupta's credentials is covering this ongoing journey of Punjab and Sikh politics. But for his ilk, the European and North American journalists will keep blaming the present state of India for religious intolerance and persecution of minorities. I wish the members of Sikh diaspora would watch these videos to have a deeper understanding of Sikh politics and the evolution of the faith.
The world is staring at an imminent population collapse. We get embroiled in the daily partisan politics that we often miss the big ticket changes. The politics for which we fight tooth and nail may hardly matter in times to come, as humanity will itself face an existential crisis.
Hi sir, thank you so much for this episode! This sentiment of a majority of Sikhs being excluded from Sikh politics will erupt and how! Time to either force Akali Dal / SGPC to be more inclusive or just get rid of the party!
So you are saying Sikhs who are patit have extra marital affair marry outside sikhidrink and enroged in maya should be able to vote too😮. Jab eh gye bipran ki reet main na Karu inki parteet
First i would like to appreciate Shekhar Gupta and his team for fact based reporting on issue of Punjab and likewise appreciation for those who have put their thoughts in comment section. In these days, comment sections are full of abuses and cut- paste messgaes except of the print. Many have criticised SGPC for not defending Sikh religion and being indifferent to religious conversion and validate Bhindrwale as a Saint. Though they are right in their assertion however problem is far more complex and nunaced. 1. First, we should not forget that SGPC is controlled by a political party i.e. Akali Dal and like every other political party, their prime goal is survival and getting into power. So if there is overwhelming concern regarding conversion in sikh community they would be forced to react on it willingly or unwillingly. However in Punjab , there is no real apprehension regarding conversion to christianity in Sikh community. 2. What is the reason behind having no concern for conversion in sikh comminity? To explain it, we have to delve into caste equation of sikh community in Punjab. Jatt sikhs are at least half of population of Sikhs in Punjab and their dominance may be felt everwhere in Punjab. Traditionally , they were land owner and filled ranks of British Army. Being loyal supporter of British, they managed to get hold of Gurudwaras. ( By Gurudwara prabhandhak Act) . After formation of Punjab in 1966, they are able to dominate Punjab politics. Thier dominance may also be felt in cultural spehere like Music ( most of songs have Jatt reference), movies etc. Caste system is prevalent in sikhism though sikh scripts says otherwise and Jatt Sikh consider themselves superior to sikhs belonging to Schedule caste. So sikh political, religious and cultural elite ( most of them are jatt sikh) dont consider SC sikh as their own and they are not bothered much if they leave the religion. One more aspect is important that christian preachers in punjab have modelled themselves according to dera cultute so for a average Punjabi, they dont seem so different. Hitherto, Christian are unable to form as political bloc so political parties are not so worried. 3. As far as SGPC/Akali Dal's soft approach towards khalistan issue is concerned , again it is catering to its vote bank. The analysts are wrong to say that there is no taker of khalistan in Punjab. However the truth is that there is considerable population of Jatt Sikh who have sympathetic approach towards khalistan issue. Victory of Simarnjeet Singh Mann in Sangrur bypoll is evidence of it and mark my work, Amriptal Singh will also win from Khadoor Sahib. So instead of seeing SGPC as a villain, i see it as a saviour who hitherto able to kept khalistani issue in check through democratic means. This is the reason that every separtist like Akali dal ( Maan) or Amritpal Singh keep abusing Badal family.
Yuvraj Singh is a dera follower. He is not a Sikh. He even got married in the Dera he follows which is in Fathegarh Sahib district. Plus he is not a Keshdhari sikh.
Beautifully done Shekhar. I've been a student of Sikh politics and history for the past 15 years. It is indeed developing into a Pressure point. Add to it the economy doing very badly in the past 25 years. Punjab slipping from no. 1 to no. 13 in the per capita income state ranking of large states. And a big belief of the leading Punjabi thinkers and trader community that the closing of trade ties with Pakistan is one of the major factors behind it. Probably rightly so. And not getting any support from the Modi Govt on that front. This is the linchpin that can popularize Modi in the Punjab Politics but they feel he won't do it as it doesn't suit his politics in the UP-Bihar areas.
@@ThePrintIndia I would like to bring a very important point in light - Improving ties with Pakistan for the benefit of a small state like Punjab is the last thing Modi govt would want to pursue. And you can't blame him, at the end of the day getting elected is the foremost important thing for any politician. But he also can't live with the fact that he lost 2 elections in Punjab. Until the Pakistan option is out of the question, He is using Hindu polarisation in Punjab as well to see if he can galvanize the Hindu votes in city dominated Constituencies like - Jalandhar, Ludhiana and Mohali etc. you should try to cover the work that is being done by ABVP and the way student organizations like ABVP are promoting his narrative in the college campuses like - DAV College Jalandhar, Chandigarh. The thing he and BJP are not realizing is that by doing so he is igniting a fire that has horrible consequences in the past. Something that was extinguished in 90s with the efforts of Congress, Akali and BJP combined. And it is indeed very dangerous. The dominant division of Pendu and Shehri (urban or rural) in the college campuses is transferring into a Hindu/Sikh divide.
@@amandeepsangha2308I don't know about the bjp. Maybe what u are saying is right but doesn't this also apply to the sikh majority? What I have seen is a constant victim mentality. Punjab was a prosperous state. Who destroyed it? Punjabi jatt sikhs They still embrace unsustainable agriculture. See haryana, how it has transitioned. There is drug problem in punjab but can it happen without the collusion of local politicians and police. Many celebrate bhindranwale and u want hindus to like it. He and his men killed so many hindus. You all kill dalit hindus on accusation of blasphemy. Doesn't some responsibility also lie on sikh leaders?
While Shekhar gives interesting details, it is not clear what happens if number of eligible voters for SGPC election keeps going down and down as we go ahead in time. As long as various political parties take part in usual electoral process, we should be fine. So what exactly is the link between the two?
Iran was trying to become a modern country in 1960's. Now women der are fighting for not covering head and face. Baghdad was center of science and knowledge before Ottoman came der. Now we can see what Baghdad has become. India was trying to become a modern country since independence and now we are always looking into past for almost everything. We hv to chose the path for future and live with our choices.
Taklu haivaan talks so sweetly and with honour for everyone but Hindu Pagan Mushriqs, their libraries (Taklu loves Single Book BTW) & their even semblance of Unity. Taklu is truly a person of BOOK (Strictly Singular)
It seems British Abrahamic institution SGPC will loose relevant in future.Dera like structure which preach actual non adultrate version of Nanak Panth should form more.The actual dharmic teaching of Nanak panth should be spread again in Punjab.
It would have been far better if the law had not been changed and SGPC should have taken a risk to let the law remain in which any and every Christian, Muslim or Hindu could have posed and interfered unchecked in the Sikh elections.
@@Simransingh355-u1l Well Shekhar is against that law/ notification which limits voting to real believing Sikhs. He is using the excuse that that law disallows weak believers in Sikhism to vote in SGPC and so holds them back. And they rather than the real believers should be the priority of SGPC. But I agree, that by pushing for repeal of that law, he is also willing to let the door open for massive non-Sikh populations to interfere. I don't know why he would want that. But if he is saying so , I guess he must be right. He says he is a Sikh sympathizer, so we must take him at his word and not try to scrutinize him to see if he really means what he says and that he is not indulging in sweet sly deceptions in pursuit of anti-Sikh agendas..
This situation could be reason of disenchantment amongst all religions across India Socially lot built up and people around should be commissioned to draw masses for real cause
Really good 'Cuttheclutter'. I request ThePrint make more videos on this kind of matters which are important and don't get main stream media coverage. I believe The Print is becoming a really good media organization by covering such important topics. Please don't take your train on Godi media tracks.
@@Simransingh355-u1lis this a 19/20 th century.they are converted by thier own will while in 19/20 th century it was driven by Arya samajist.when you convert because for monetary reason how can even one can try . revivalism works only in certain grounds especially not going to work if you convert to religion which is minority by itself in india so creating a sense of collectivness is not going to be that easy.
Formed as armsmen to fight for sanatan dharma now persents majorities shikhs want fight against sanatandharma. They are cutting their own root .so decline of persentday Sikhs is eminent
Because in ancient time every man was having beard and turban so in battle it was hard to recognise enemy so it was said that we have to make our identity different from general looking man so from that time uncut hair becomes a symbol of recognition and it is mandatory for us to follow and another reason was that guru said when ever someone in trouble they can recognised sikhs by their looks and it is a duty of sikh to protect the person and Sikhs cannot deny or get mix up with general public to avoid the same and logically sometimes i also feel the same that female sometimes come to me when they travel in late night because of the image that we have.
SGPC completely failed to protect Sikh religion from Christianity and hardly there is any efforts from their side as they are wasting their time in internal politics and corruption. Sikka are no more impress with SGPC working.
Presence of extremist elements in SGPS could also be a major reason. To the extent that a women having Indian flag painted on her face was denied entry to the golden temple
Actually as a Sikh, we don't feel gurudwaras r controlled by right PPL right now. All the extreamists violent have taken our religious places. BJP has helped akali dal Gunda gang in India while CIA in western Gurudwaras
The more i read about and look into the Sikh institutions of power, the more uglier it gets. Similar issues in TamilNadu, Kerala etc. Too much internal issues with people being openly hypocritical and hurting themselves in the process.
Let be real punjab downfall in directly linked to this orthodoxy and anti establishment sentiment that state need major rest, with each passing year it is falling behind comapred to rest of india
Conversion in Punjab is rampant but these soo called blood of Sikh warrior busy in getting visa of Canada and revolution of khalistani.... And attacking innocent Hindus.
Who is attacking innocent Hindus? Has there any genocide or riots happening in Punjab? It's always the majority that has caused massacres not the sikhs. Correct yourself and check facts.
Kept saying 'STPC' ... Sekhar'ji again rambling. He needs to find ways to keep it sharp and short. Also, could have refferred to 'better' deras that that of the infamous Ram-Rahim. The guy basically defiled the sanctity of dera culture.
You have done CTC immediately after congress released manifesto but you don’t have time for BJP manifesto except spending a minute yesterday. We all know BJP will form a government again so BJP manifesto is lot more important than the party, which may win around 50 seats.
Good topic but the analysis is incomplete. You said half way through it doesn't explain why the voter registration dropped to half. And only repeated the same analysis in the second half of the video. Disappointing.
Hindus need an organization like SGPC to control our temples and talk about hindu rights and end the social evils among us. Centralization of religion is important in 21st century. Almost all other religions are centralized.
Due to extreme panthic views and khalisthan movement the tradition of every first born hindu child to be a sikh is abandoned. It will be interesting to compare population percentage of Hindus to Sikhs .
Every First born Hindu child becomes a Sikh was a need of the past when Hindus were persecuted by Mughals and Afghans in the 16-18th Centuries. In present set-up it's irrelevant
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Sikh politics is basically Jat Sikh politics.
Apparently there are more divisions in Sikhs than Hindus. Amazing because their population is merely 1.5%
Greatum the greatest
Combine religion with politics result is self destruction
Political wing of sgpc is sad, the badals
Babay da rule dekya
Raja da rule dekya
Marasi jagnu khalistani ka be rule dekhya
Bus aub tere bari ha
Print kay sciencedan
India is a fa*ke country, a colonial entity created by British..This colonial entity control SGPC and Sikhs.
@@ameya7723Indian politics is basically colonial politics to enslave dozens of nations
Sikhs are devout to their faith not their institutions. SGPC has failed the community and has done nothing about rampant conversions. Instead, SGPC choses to legitimize Bhindrawale.
Misplaced priorities abandoned the community.
This is self-destruction.
@@parvadhami980yes indeed and self destruction isn’t limited to Punjab. SGPC has a hand in Gurudwara politics in Canada as well.
Centralizing a religion is always a bad idea. SGPC was bound to fail. However, you should not be hasty in judging Bhindranwale. You should read his full history. I know he did many bad things but even at its peak, Punjabi Hindus did not suffer like the Kashmiri Pandits. Bhindranwale was a product of Congress. The INC created him to dim the rise of Akalis. It was also during the era of some the dirtiest politics orchestrated by Congress against Punjab and particularly Sikhs. India was hosting Asian Games at that time and Sikhs were humiliated and searched on Punjab-Delhi road. Congress did not follow through on promises made to Punjab. Bhindranwale became a symbol of resilience against Delhi's oppression.
@@sankalp6872Every revolutionary chose to give up their life rather than sacrifice others lives. Bhindrawale, deliberately chose to sacrifice others lives rather than his own. He was a terrorist that the Congress incubated and SGPC choses to legitimize him despite his terrorism. No amount of “oppression” can justify the rampant Anti-Hinduism Bhindrawale was spewing especially in Vancouver, Canada.
@@libshastra I take your point and I agree that there is no "justification" for Bhindranwale's act. The man was a terrorist. I do not sympathize with the "legend". However, I have a problem with the fact that the Punjab insurgency ends with a full stop on Bhindranwale. Congress was his partner in crime. In fact, he was their "Frankenstein's monster". This should be added to the "legend" of Bhindranwale. Congress should NOT get a free pass over this. Only a selective narrative is paddled over Bhindranwale because it suits his followers and absolves Congress of its role in the insurgency.
I really appreciate the fact that the British and Nehru didn't establish an SGPC-like organization for Hindus. Decentralization is the only reason, Hinduism is now progressing. Caste as an identity might remain but the negatives aspects like discrimination are likely to dissipate over the next few decades. Economics+Migration+Urbanization+inter caste marriages have really blurred the caste lines.
British definitely did try to centralize Hinduism (HRCE), heck even Hindus tried it (Arya and Brahmo Samaj etc.). They all failed because each time, they excluded the most devout abandoned their own community.
Relevance matters more than dogma.
Decentralisation helped Hinduism survive through eras of invasions and destruction.
Unlike Buddhists
@@libshastra Thank you for the information. However, what do you mean by "relevance matters more than dogma"? Could you spell out the context?
@@sankalp6872your dogma needs to be relevant to the society to whom you preach to. Relevance would basically mean yuga-dharma.
@@libshastra Wrong take about Arya Samaj. Its a mainly North Indian movement, as it was launched there.
My Grandpa used to donate money & go to Arya Samaj Yagyas. He told me Arya Samaj was never formed to proselytize or correct faith of people.
My family followed Sanatani Hinduism & Arya Samaj preaches Vedic Hinduism.
But their Schools & Colleges have done a great service to North Indians.
Even Bhagat Singh & Dr. Manmohan Singh studied in colleges established by Arya Samajis.
In Central & Southern India it could not take roots.
Explore conversion of Sikhs to Christianity and silence of SGPC and khalistanis on it
Gober community spotted
Right
Same thing for you man
Give your peanut size brain some rest
Or have a good debate @@xenon_59
@@xenon_59atleast he from true name not like u coward what instigate u to misbehave with this guy he is talking truth even I always thinks where those krapandhari khalsas when these missionary openly convert here in punjaab but that's the crux they khalistani want money and citizenship from Europe and us thata why they permit it that's how they will save religion 😂😂😂 it's all money making politics
@@xenon_59Sandeshkhali rape jihad gang cry
This is a very good thing that alkali are weakening which means radical characters like amritpal will find no purchase
How dumb you are😂. Akali doesn’t represent radical elements in Punjab. Bjpmdoes
Thank you for this episode
As a Punjabi it was an eye opener for me
Punjabi hinduo ki bhi aisi koi organisation hai kya?
Thank you for appreciating and supporting our journalism, Arjun. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@MukeshVarma9198 yes, it's called the Sangh Parivar.
@@libshastra ha wo to national level par hai.
Lol. Your a hindi speaking Hindu your not a real punjabi
Kejriwal is doing same as Sonia with Punjab. Like bringing Punjab into national politics for their political gains and driving Punjab youth for their political campaigns and protests. Common Punjab people should awake and reject these political parties. With this chaos no investor is going to invest and it will increase unemployment and force people to migrate for jobs. State has most hard working people, if you drive them for development agenda there will be miracles in the state.
it not only takes a deep sense of knowledge, but a kind of attachment towards the topics you speak on, that distinguishes you from the other journalists. And that is precisely what brings me to listen to your podcasts. My immense respect to you Mr. Gupta.
As a Sikh, It saddens me to see the kind of politics that is the SGPC. Sikhism, to me is a way of life, the gurdwara a beacon to my faith. What a royal mess this group has made of it.
But Gupta is a supporter of Khalistani terrorists. Shame on you for respecting Gupta.
So aptly put
Can we sponsor Chitleen to go to Canada and investigate the SGPC and Khalistan nexus? It will make the Print stand out.
No she will face hostility in Canada there. Its pretty obvious.
@@raviss98 then she should report on the rabid hostility. At least Indians will be better informed about Canada.
They will probably assault her.
SGPC in Haryana Delhi Bihar Maharashtra r all controlled by BJP frontmen. Even In Punjab Akali dal badal still is frontmen of BJP, they r gun for hire even still trying best to have alliance with BJP but BJP knows that akali dal is lost cause in Punjab with 15% vote share and 4 MLAs out of 117 MLAs.
SGPC Punjab is fully controlled by Akali dal now akali dal want that SGPC should start radicalism in Punjab so that BJP would start feeling to negotiate with Akali dal but this will not work.
@@gigachad_6862 what SGPC does in India is quite different from what they do abroad. SGPC abroad don't recognize Ramdasias Gurudhwaras and have reduced themselves to a Jat only congregation. SGPC abroad also platforms the worst elements of Khalistanis - Nijjar was quite buddy-buddy with SGPC.
Shekhar the camera quality is great...video looks like having high production value
Much better and sound too
Thanks for this episode, SG!! Learnt a few things I was not aware of, even after spending two years in Punjab!! Grateful!!
Thank you for appreciating and supporting our journalism, Vijay. I'm glad you found this episode insightful. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Corruption in SGPC 😢😢 and radicalization 😢
Badals and akal takht jathedars owns 70 five star hotels , only pertinent interest is use religion to acquire property by all means
Because it is indirectly under RSS
@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu Dont bring rss anywhere rss has no role in sgpc
@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu i always see such comments and I laugh with face in my palm. Only fool will think RSS control gurudwara. RSS can't even control Hindu temples forget about controlling others religious institutions. Our temples are in government control and also our donation is being taxed to funds minorities like Christians and Muslims. 😂😂
@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu Agreed
Sikhs have problem with BJP. But BJP is the only party which talks about illegal conversion in Punjab. Which celebrated birthday of giri govind singh in patna in grand way. Which celebrated nanak jayanti all around the world. Just irrational hate for a party. But they vote for a party which did 1984 😐
I don't know about all Sikhs but I can say why I hate BJP - because they are communal, simple! Now you know! I hate any party or person who asks votes on the basis of their religion.
@@jaswindersinghnarula4379 So when Gurus were defending all Dharams and Pants of their motherland , were they communal? Donno abt BJP ministers, but core ideology of BJP founders was to protect all indigenous worship ways of this subcontinent even the Nature worshipping animists Tribals. Abrahamic religions has no secularism, they are expansionist to core, no matter how much secular woke you try to be, they will not Miss the opportunity to convert ur relatives or neighbour. Standing against conversions is communal? Thn its duty of every indigenous native of this land to be "communal"
@@jaswindersinghnarula4379 communal? lol
And Muslim appeasement is secular? @@jaswindersinghnarula4379
@@jaswindersinghnarula4379 Even Akali Dal is an outright Communal Party the same goes for the SP/BSP/AIMIM
Unity holds immense power for a Nation. When people come together despite differences, they achieve great feats, foster resilience, and create a sense of belonging and collective strength.
Tell this to the "kaum" that was paying last respects to Don Muktar Ansari.
What's that gotta do with the video about SGPC 😂
@@ThePolymerisst
What's you bhakts doing in this and every video polarizing people and propagating hate?
@@mg.f.9023 Your "quam" is in the business of polarizing people. In fact, they polarized it so much that created a separate nation for themselves. Also, you are the one who keeps spamming in every video.
@@sankalp6872
Truth hurt you guys?😂
Thank you for your insight! Really important
You picked up an interesting topic indeed and gave so much clarity in just 19 minutes.. thanks …
Nicely done Guptaji. One more potential reason, the perception that SGPC has been a Badal private limited, esp since 1997
Thank you Shekhersaab for the video.
In our villages all youths Sikh have shaved, this includes people who are above 50 also, blue turbaned akalis are renowned thugs interested in property dealing ,drug & arms smuggling
Fantastic episode as usual!
I don't think the faith of Sikhs have decline instead they are fed up by religious politics either by sgpc or SAD. I have many sikh friends and we regularly visit gurudwara.
Excellent analysis. Good developments in Sikh society which augur well for ordinary people of Punjab, not necessarily devout Sikhs.
It's good news for Punjab.. Sikhs are breaking the chains of religion and politics
Meanwhile Hindus are blindly jumping into cesspool of religious political Nexus. Looking at Hindus of today Sikhs who saw 80s have sense of deja vu as in we have been there before.
Great Topic to discuss. Thanks for your efforts.
Very informative and educative episode on SGPC.. I never knew this in-depth division
SGPC is an anti-Hindu, anti-India organization managed by a family run political party called Akali Dal. To confirm my claims, look at the books published by SGPC and their demands in general.
Akali dal has alliance with bjp
@@armaanbrar6596Had*
Lol everyone who is not Hindu is anti Hindu or anti India 😂haina? Typical bhakt mentality
@@armaanbrar6596ergo bjp is anti-national.
@armaanbrar6596 not anymore
I have been thinking about this for some time. What blunder BJP would have committed to not attract Sikh community towards them but rather repel. Now this cut the clutter episode clears some part of my wonderment. The other part that is unclear is- what factors motivated Akali dal and the BJP to take such a short sighted decision to exclude large sections of Sikh community from voting in the SGPC in the late 90s
I will hazard a guess. BJP was a minority party dependent on NDA partners for its survival in the Lok Sabha. Politicians of Shiromani Akali Dal had a great influence and in the true sense of tail wagging the dog, they got Vajpayee government to issue notifications that helped SAD and SGPC such that both became more inter-dependent and both had greater influence over politics of Punjab. In state assembly, BJP was just riding piggy back on SAD support and helped in diverting urban Hindu votes to the SAD-BJP alliance. SAD-BJP alliances turned Punjab into a den of short-sighted corrupt politicians and land of drug runners. No industry prospered. People of Punjab, disappointed by their elected leaders, tried Congress, which continued to disappoint. There being no traditional alternative, people of Punjab are presently experimenting with AAP. Let us see if there is hope yet for Punjab. So to answer your question, self interest and short-sightedness has pushed Sikh electorate away from SAD and BJP.
Akali Dal saved Sikhs with this decision. Well done.
@@raghvinderjoshi4667 thanks for the background. such a shame! I really wish there is a solution to bring Punjab back to glorious days. With AAP’s inexperience, the next 5 year term is not promising either. I would be surprised if BJP local leaders are not thinking through this. Are there any capable BJP/ SAD leaders left in the region?
Brilliant analysis.
The reality is that Guru Nanak's religion was universal and expansive - Hindus and Muslims flocked to it. Modern identity politics has inversed that path, with purity to identity being held as critical and universal appeal of the faith being considered less so.
A very great topic to cover, there is definitely a great church within the larger Sikh society and tbh this was expected since very long.
hi shekhar , very informative episode about sikh religion , thank you for your efforts. greetings !!
Sikhs are an enigma !.
Congress under Indira Gandhi desecrated the holiest of the holy shrines yet they Voted and continue to vote and support the Congress.
Sikhs were massacred by the Congress goons in 1984 in Delhi and elsewhere in the country..
Yet the Sikhs in Punjab and across the country vote for the Congress.
Sikhs are the most close knit religious group in India, yet a large number of them convert to christianity ; the largest conversions amongst any religious group !
Sikhs are much more liberal, and have the concept of equality and brotherhood built in within the religion, yet there are a sizeable number of SC Sikhs amongst the community and who feel as aliensted as other SCs feel amongst Hindus in general, if not more !
Sikhs as a community loved Indian Punjab, (particularly after they lost West Punjab to Muslims and Pakistan after Bharat was partitioned in 1947 and Lahore and Nankana Sahab were lost to Pakistan) the most amongst other religious groups loved their areas of concentration.
Yet we see the immigration out of Punjab to other States and abroad is highest amongst them !
Sikhs are the most patriotic community among all other communities in Bharat, yet the separatist tendency for a separate State of Khalistan is the highest amongst this nationalist group !
Punjab and the Sikhs were, and still are, amongst the most prosperous states in India, yet inequalities and grievances amongst them against the system are highest in India ?
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Lot of research is needed to understand our Sikh brothers of Punjab !
You forgot the biggest enigma of this community
They have always punched way beyond their weight
2% of the population and how eventful and distinguished history they had
Despite tattering economy, punjab is one of best on national hunger index
Sikhs were a sword arm of the Sanatan !
🙏🏿
@@kuldeepkumarbhat9648Sikhs are sword for meek not for sanatan. We fought hindu king .people who betrayed sikh Empire were hindu.
@@Simransingh355-u1l
Please do not forget till the 1960s and from 1700 AD only, every Hindu contributed to our Sikh army the eldest son that kept the great, patriotic Sikh population growing.
Unfortunately, things are different now and the Sikhs are dwindling in numbers !
I hope you don't need any further proofs of that ?
Thanks!
Dear Anil,
Thank you for supporting our journalism.
Enlightening!
DAO wins nothing else. learn from Hindus. Christianity particularly church based and its attendance has declined sharply in western countries. Once Modernisation comes to Islamic countries same will follow. DAO wins (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). Thats why Hinduism will win.
Have multiple strands, multiple gurus, no 1 entity to control. Each guru is authority onto himself. Yes there will be decline and change in purity of pratices and the best will emerge but ur overall faith will win
That is quite a big generalization. DAO wins only if DAO has a supporting central political power to control the chaos. There is no growth without centralization. Hindus have been late in this business i would say. Hinduism is in vogue because of BJP which is a centralized political power holding authority. Take out BJP and then your theory of DAO will collapse.
If Sikhs are the highest temple going group can you help us understand how conversion is so high in punjab?
Convertion is high bcoz
Sikhs r not a homogeneous group we have different varieties of Sikhs. There r schedule class Sikhs who were scheduled class Hindus once. They thought they would have better standard of living under Sikhism. Till 1947, It was good as very large number of majhabi Sikhs/ dalit Sikhs were in I dian army as of higher caste. Jat or khatri sikhs. Even Sikhs had large land holdings, big business so lower caste Sikhs were well accomodated. But After 1947, state patronize and wealth of Sikhs declined. In 1960s , 1970s due to mechanised farming SC Sikh labour become unemployable and dependence of lower and upper caste declined resulted in more caste discrimination in Sikhism. Even Govt of India, sponsored Deras like Radha swami, Ram Rahim Sacha Sauda, Nirankaris, Namdharis, Nanaksaris etc at least 2 thousand Deras so Sikh population is further divided.
Christianity is increasing in Punjab especially Dalit/ majhabi/chamar Sikhs as gurudwaras don't accommodate them. Neither given them entrance to community kitchen to cook, yes they can eat langar but not cook in many village gurudwaras nor gurudwara gave utensils to dalit Sikhs for family function as Gurudwara manager jats think that these lower caste Sikhs will not return their utensils back😅. Christianity is taking advantage of that, Christian missionaries provide free education health care to dalit Sikh and Hindu Punjabis, even if main bread winner dies, last rituals r performed by Christian missionaries along with widow children receive monthly allowance.
Only thing I am not able to understand that from where money is coming. All the foreign aid to India, I think is diverted into such missionaries work.
I also feel that Higher caste Sikhs should understand seriousness of situation and act responsibly.
IT feels like a personal loss what are sikhs doing ?
Having fun it seems.
Radical, Rich, Educated, illiterate but modest wealth Sikhs all r going abroad.
I wish best of Luck to UP Bihari bhayias with "abb tumharey hawaley watan sathio"😅
But the worst part is bhayias also started sending their kids to canada in Punjab. My electrician who is bihari Hindu sent his daughter in Canada recently. Even few auto rickshawala from UP Bihar in Punjab have enrolled their kids in IELTS and PTE centres😅
It is a phase all religions have their ups and downs. Religions reinvent themselves as an organic living organisms.
Hinduism has three different categories like Bhakti movement of Kabir Mira adi shankara chariya when it was loosing ground to Islam, Brahminiculture helped Hinduism rediscovered and overthrow Buddhist kingdoms in India while Tantaric Hinduism/ tuna totka/ kala jado also helped adhiwasi lower caste Hindus to organise as they can't pay heavy tributes to Brahmins for Puja archana. But over the time, Hinduism keep evolving now it has 100s of different dimension. One Hinduism form is Nirgun Nirankar that oppose idols like Arya samaj while other do idolatry. Swami Narayan is almost become seperate religion along with Lingayas and Nagas in South India who don't think they r Hindus anymore.
Similarly, Sikhs will evolve
Rich educated will have course correction in Sikhism.
@@gigachad_6862Sikhism is part of Christianity. Praise Lord Jesus. Guru Nanak was follower of Christ. Amen
I think, as a nation we are going backwards in religious thinking and beliefs.
Our scientific temperament is not increasing and actually it is decreasing.
May be it is more visible bcz of social media but we are not progressing cerebrally.
Great Episode
But why Shekar Gupta is covering the SGPC elections mechanism and rules..what does it have relevance in indian politics? Why doesn't he cover other religions
His channel his choice
Because he is from Punjab and have followed Sikh politics very closely since Bhindrawale time.
This is Punjab-Haryana obsessed channel. Someone farting in Punjab is more "news" to them than Water Crisis in Central & South India.
I am grateful that someone of Shekhar Gupta's credentials is covering this ongoing journey of Punjab and Sikh politics. But for his ilk, the European and North American journalists will keep blaming the present state of India for religious intolerance and persecution of minorities. I wish the members of Sikh diaspora would watch these videos to have a deeper understanding of Sikh politics and the evolution of the faith.
Because it can break india more easily than others
The world is staring at an imminent population collapse. We get embroiled in the daily partisan politics that we often miss the big ticket changes. The politics for which we fight tooth and nail may hardly matter in times to come, as humanity will itself face an existential crisis.
That will be good thing.
Very informative program.
Hi sir, thank you so much for this episode! This sentiment of a majority of Sikhs being excluded from Sikh politics will erupt and how! Time to either force Akali Dal / SGPC to be more inclusive or just get rid of the party!
So you are saying Sikhs who are patit have extra marital affair marry outside sikhidrink and enroged in maya should be able to vote too😮. Jab eh gye bipran ki reet main na Karu inki parteet
Thank you sir ❤
First i would like to appreciate Shekhar Gupta and his team for fact based reporting on issue of Punjab and likewise appreciation for those who have put their thoughts in comment section. In these days, comment sections are full of abuses and cut- paste messgaes except of the print.
Many have criticised SGPC for not defending Sikh religion and being indifferent to religious conversion and validate Bhindrwale as a Saint.
Though they are right in their assertion however problem is far more complex and nunaced.
1. First, we should not forget that SGPC is controlled by a political party i.e. Akali Dal and like every other political party, their prime goal is survival and getting into power. So if there is overwhelming concern regarding conversion in sikh community they would be forced to react on it willingly or unwillingly. However in Punjab , there is no real apprehension regarding conversion to christianity in Sikh community.
2. What is the reason behind having no concern for conversion in sikh comminity? To explain it, we have to delve into caste equation of sikh community in Punjab. Jatt sikhs are at least half of population of Sikhs in Punjab and their dominance may be felt everwhere in Punjab. Traditionally , they were land owner and filled ranks of British Army. Being loyal supporter of British, they managed to get hold of Gurudwaras. ( By Gurudwara prabhandhak Act) . After formation of Punjab in 1966, they are able to dominate Punjab politics. Thier dominance may also be felt in cultural spehere like Music ( most of songs have Jatt reference), movies etc. Caste system is prevalent in sikhism though sikh scripts says otherwise and Jatt Sikh consider themselves superior to sikhs belonging to Schedule caste.
So sikh political, religious and cultural elite ( most of them are jatt sikh) dont consider SC sikh as their own and they are not bothered much if they leave the religion. One more aspect is important that christian preachers in punjab have modelled themselves according to dera cultute so for a average Punjabi, they dont seem so different. Hitherto, Christian are unable to form as political bloc so political parties are not so worried.
3. As far as SGPC/Akali Dal's soft approach towards khalistan issue is concerned , again it is catering to its vote bank. The analysts are wrong to say that there is no taker of khalistan in Punjab. However the truth is that there is considerable population of Jatt Sikh who have sympathetic approach towards khalistan issue. Victory of Simarnjeet Singh Mann in Sangrur bypoll is evidence of it and mark my work, Amriptal Singh will also win from Khadoor Sahib. So instead of seeing SGPC as a villain, i see it as a saviour who hitherto able to kept khalistani issue in check through democratic means. This is the reason that every separtist like Akali dal ( Maan) or Amritpal Singh keep abusing Badal family.
SEKHAR SIR , HOW CAN YOU EXCLUDE THE NAME OF FAMOUS CRICKETER YUVRAAJ SINGH ?
Yuvraj Singh is a dera follower. He is not a Sikh. He even got married in the Dera he follows which is in Fathegarh Sahib district. Plus he is not a Keshdhari sikh.
He isn't considered a "Sikh" by Puritan Sikhs
@@irasingh8884the dera you are talking about is as per sikh rules and maryada and follows sikhisim.
And sekhar Gupta says Muslims are not growing .this is a bogus propaganda......and he contradicts his own argument
Beautifully done Shekhar. I've been a student of Sikh politics and history for the past 15 years. It is indeed developing into a Pressure point. Add to it the economy doing very badly in the past 25 years. Punjab slipping from no. 1 to no. 13 in the per capita income state ranking of large states. And a big belief of the leading Punjabi thinkers and trader community that the closing of trade ties with Pakistan is one of the major factors behind it. Probably rightly so. And not getting any support from the Modi Govt on that front. This is the linchpin that can popularize Modi in the Punjab Politics but they feel he won't do it as it doesn't suit his politics in the UP-Bihar areas.
You make a fine point, Amandeep, and thank you for appreciating our journalism. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia I would like to bring a very important point in light - Improving ties with Pakistan for the benefit of a small state like Punjab is the last thing Modi govt would want to pursue. And you can't blame him, at the end of the day getting elected is the foremost important thing for any politician. But he also can't live with the fact that he lost 2 elections in Punjab. Until the Pakistan option is out of the question, He is using Hindu polarisation in Punjab as well to see if he can galvanize the Hindu votes in city dominated Constituencies like - Jalandhar, Ludhiana and Mohali etc. you should try to cover the work that is being done by ABVP and the way student organizations like ABVP are promoting his narrative in the college campuses like - DAV College Jalandhar, Chandigarh. The thing he and BJP are not realizing is that by doing so he is igniting a fire that has horrible consequences in the past. Something that was extinguished in 90s with the efforts of Congress, Akali and BJP combined. And it is indeed very dangerous. The dominant division of Pendu and Shehri (urban or rural) in the college campuses is transferring into a Hindu/Sikh divide.
@@amandeepsangha2308I don't know about the bjp.
Maybe what u are saying is right but doesn't this also apply to the sikh majority?
What I have seen is a constant victim mentality.
Punjab was a prosperous state.
Who destroyed it? Punjabi jatt sikhs
They still embrace unsustainable agriculture.
See haryana, how it has transitioned. There is drug problem in punjab but can it happen without the collusion of local politicians and police. Many celebrate bhindranwale and u want hindus to like it. He and his men killed so many hindus. You all kill dalit hindus on accusation of blasphemy. Doesn't some responsibility also lie on sikh leaders?
Punjab is indeed a complex State; when every States have their own complexcity. ✍️✍️🙏🙏
Very unusual yet very relevant top ic..noteworthy trend
SGPC should be dissolved. It’s a British creation, the temporal power is and should be with the Akal Takht. The keshdhari requirement is madness.
Well researched
Why should a hindu government be allowed to interfere in Sikh affairs ???
While Shekhar gives interesting details, it is not clear what happens if number of eligible voters for SGPC election keeps going down and down as we go ahead in time. As long as various political parties take part in usual electoral process, we should be fine. So what exactly is the link between the two?
Issue is that a very radicalized minority of folks then control all the holy sites leading to a monopoly.
General studies is about learning issues that are not in issue but can become issue and are issue
Iran was trying to become a modern country in 1960's. Now women der are fighting for not covering head and face.
Baghdad was center of science and knowledge before Ottoman came der. Now we can see what Baghdad has become.
India was trying to become a modern country since independence and now we are always looking into past for almost everything.
We hv to chose the path for future and live with our choices.
Old generation people are clinging on to all beliefs which don’t go as per current environment.
Taklu haivaan talks so sweetly and with honour for everyone but Hindu Pagan Mushriqs, their libraries (Taklu loves Single Book BTW) & their even semblance of Unity.
Taklu is truly a person of BOOK (Strictly Singular)
It seems British Abrahamic institution SGPC will loose relevant in future.Dera like structure which preach actual non adultrate version of Nanak Panth should form more.The actual dharmic teaching of Nanak panth should be spread again in Punjab.
There was hardly sentences but SG repeated it multiple times to mke 20 mins video.
Mr Gupta when we do talk about the BJP Manifesto? Pls have a CTC on this soon #theprint #cuttheclutter
Very interesting story and good uncluttering
put pictures on full screen
Par social media par Religion se related sare gyan sirf hinduo ko hi diye jate hai
It would have been far better if the law had not been changed and SGPC should have taken a risk to let the law remain in which any and every Christian, Muslim or Hindu could have posed and interfered unchecked in the Sikh elections.
Ok so you want non sikh to vote in gurdwaras election
@@Simransingh355-u1l Well Shekhar is against that law/ notification which limits voting to real believing Sikhs. He is using the excuse that that law disallows weak believers in Sikhism to vote in SGPC and so holds them back. And they rather than the real believers should be the priority of SGPC. But I agree, that by pushing for repeal of that law, he is also willing to let the door open for massive non-Sikh populations to interfere. I don't know why he would want that. But if he is saying so , I guess he must be right. He says he is a Sikh sympathizer, so we must take him at his word and not try to scrutinize him to see if he really means what he says and that he is not indulging in sweet sly deceptions in pursuit of anti-Sikh agendas..
I thouught an affidavit suffices . how can you determine adherenece to a faith?
This situation could be reason of disenchantment amongst all religions across India
Socially lot built up and people around should be commissioned to draw masses for real cause
Please focus on south politics and issues with equal (or atleast 50%) interest
migration is also a reason behind decline
We see this across all religions
Really good 'Cuttheclutter'. I request ThePrint make more videos on this kind of matters which are important and don't get main stream media coverage. I believe The Print is becoming a really good media organization by covering such important topics. Please don't take your train on Godi media tracks.
Thank you for appreciating our journalism, Nikhil, and I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Mera Yesu Yesu seems to be working very well 😅
Will that result in irrelevance of Khalistani movement? After all if Punjab loses Sikh majority it would be difficult to argue for a Sikh State
@@parvadhami980 There is a good chance that might happen in India.
But I don't think it will stop Khalisthani comedy among the Sikh diaspora abroad.
Many have come and gone to destroy khalsa but none have succeeded. If sikh population fall below majority then we will start singh sabha movement 2
@@Simransingh355-u1lis this a 19/20 th century.they are converted by thier own will while in 19/20 th century it was driven by Arya samajist.when you convert because for monetary reason how can even one can try . revivalism works only in certain grounds especially not going to work if you convert to religion which is minority by itself in india so creating a sense of collectivness is not going to be that easy.
Shekhar Gupta has too much fascination with Punjab/Sikh politics. If not Punjab then he will talk about Pakistan. 😂
he is a punjabi himself, thats why :)
He is himself Punjabi
Let me tell you, that is a very good thing and is in 'National Interest'.
Formed as armsmen to fight for sanatan dharma now persents majorities shikhs want fight against sanatandharma. They are cutting their own root .so decline of persentday Sikhs is eminent
Vote for Unity. Vote OUT divisive polarizing forces!
Like bjp
never understood why some religions have an obsession with hair.
Because in ancient time every man was having beard and turban so in battle it was hard to recognise enemy so it was said that we have to make our identity different from general looking man so from that time uncut hair becomes a symbol of recognition and it is mandatory for us to follow and another reason was that guru said when ever someone in trouble they can recognised sikhs by their looks and it is a duty of sikh to protect the person and Sikhs cannot deny or get mix up with general public to avoid the same and logically sometimes i also feel the same that female sometimes come to me when they travel in late night because of the image that we have.
SGPC is only interested in anti India agenda but won't do anything against conversions.
Whats vicky kaushal doing behind ABV at 4:23 😮
New movie ka shooting kar raha h.
SGPC completely failed to protect Sikh religion from Christianity and hardly there is any efforts from their side as they are wasting their time in internal politics and corruption. Sikka are no more impress with SGPC working.
Presence of extremist elements in SGPS could also be a major reason. To the extent that a women having Indian flag painted on her face was denied entry to the golden temple
Actually as a Sikh, we don't feel gurudwaras r controlled by right PPL right now. All the extreamists violent have taken our religious places. BJP has helped akali dal Gunda gang in India while CIA in western Gurudwaras
SGPC is greater than the Gurus themselves, it would seem.
SGPC a group of people with badal as chief gunda, their only qualification is long beards
Vote BJP, Save Bharath. God bless Modi-BJP,
Vote Unity; Out with divisive forces!
The more i read about and look into the Sikh institutions of power, the more uglier it gets. Similar issues in TamilNadu, Kerala etc. Too much internal issues with people being openly hypocritical and hurting themselves in the process.
You’re learning about Sikhs from the wrong source.
Let be real punjab downfall in directly linked to this orthodoxy and anti establishment sentiment that state need major rest, with each passing year it is falling behind comapred to rest of india
Nice video sir
Conversion in Punjab is rampant but these soo called blood of Sikh warrior busy in getting visa of Canada and revolution of khalistani.... And attacking innocent Hindus.
Who is attacking innocent Hindus? Has there any genocide or riots happening in Punjab? It's always the majority that has caused massacres not the sikhs. Correct yourself and check facts.
Kept saying 'STPC' ... Sekhar'ji again rambling. He needs to find ways to keep it sharp and short.
Also, could have refferred to 'better' deras that that of the infamous Ram-Rahim. The guy basically defiled the sanctity of dera culture.
😂
Any how you're agreeing that's conversation are going on in Punjab
You have done CTC immediately after congress released manifesto but you don’t have time for BJP manifesto except spending a minute yesterday.
We all know BJP will form a government again so BJP manifesto is lot more important than the party, which may win around 50 seats.
The manifesto has nothing new, so making a video regarding that is just a waste of energy and time.
Good topic but the analysis is incomplete. You said half way through it doesn't explain why the voter registration dropped to half. And only repeated the same analysis in the second half of the video. Disappointing.
to be a Sehajdhari Sikhs is not a strict standard.
Shekhar Gupta has become godimedia too
Godi Media? Anything but.
The other half went to kenadda. 😃
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What is a lower caste ?
A jodi is a always a jodi
What's Jodi?
Hindus need an organization like SGPC to control our temples and talk about hindu rights and end the social evils among us. Centralization of religion is important in 21st century. Almost all other religions are centralized.
Lol 😂 NO! Decentralisation has helped Hinduism survive through eras of invasions
@@parvadhami980 yes. But that era has ended. In near future there isn't such possibility. Centralization is the requirement of the time.
VHP is there.they can adapt to current requirements.
Due to extreme panthic views and khalisthan movement the tradition of every first born hindu child to be a sikh is abandoned. It will be interesting to compare population percentage of Hindus to Sikhs .
Every First born Hindu child becomes a Sikh was a need of the past when Hindus were persecuted by Mughals and Afghans in the 16-18th Centuries. In present set-up it's irrelevant