Put on the helmet. Run into walls. That's what I say to people when they ask to borrow a deck, and I am describing my decks. Because, you don't need to think...just put the helmet on and start running. and the deck does the rest. legendary critters go sideways. Uga uga chaka uga uga chaka
I guess… I have one and it is linear. But I gotta say, it is SOOO fun and modular. Everyone in my playgroup turn into little kids when I play it! Some get pure sourgrapes and some get a big laugh out of it.
Whenever I play Jodah, it's me against the whole table, three-versus-one-headed giant style, which is its own kind of fun. Outlaws of Thunder Junction added a lot. Yesterday, I ramped with Bloom Tender and got Annie Joins Up; Kellan Joins Up; and Kellan, the Kid out, all before Jodah even hit the table. Absolutely ridiculous.
because of that, i gave my jodah deck a theme to make it less goodstuff and traded some synergies and busted auto includes for more fun for the rest of the group, and also me. i build jodah in the way that i can include only universe beyond cards and made him a UB Typal deck. atleast the art. you got all your typical ramp and carddraw eitjer reprinted with universe beyond art or have other options that fill the same role. obviously there are a lot of interesting universe beyond legendaries anf some really work super well with jodah like the war doctor from dr who or gimli of the clittering caves. jodah can be a super busted commander and honestly giving your deck a fun subtheme or building challenge can reduce the power of these commanders just enough that you can play them in your normal fairly optimzed games if your tired of being archenemy or tired of people complaining about you wanting to play your deck
@@xxXDrManhattanXxx I made the mistake of letting a Jodah player who said "my deck isn't like most Jodah decks" live. They proceeded to do Jodah things and win the game exactly how I figured they'd win
@@greatbrandini3967 it obviously doenst change the card text of jodah and how that card works when you play other cards in the 99 lol. but there is still a big difference if i build my deck with the best 5 color support pieces and some staxy legendaries and value legendaries that are win conidtions on their own or if i play fking dhalsim from street fighter and try to draw some cards with him
I love playing K'rrik, particularly when everyone is made aware of what my lines of play are to win via rule 0 conversations. People see me just hiding away, prepping a big board state or attempting to just go for the win, it's fun for me to see if I can fight through adversity or not. If people don't play much interaction at the table, I simply won't play it. Time and place.
Ward is one of my favorite keywords simply because i hate when ppl always target my stuff. It’s never fun when your commander gets nuked immediately the turn it comes out over and over and having that extra turn or two of protection makes a huge impact on actually being able to get setup or get some use out of it
Really love Ward as well, cause it's such flexible protection. Mana, Life, Sacrifice, Discard, there are so many different Ward costs that brings variety to the game. I could also see Ward in the future including specific colored mana, making it untargetable against decks that don't play that color. Kind of like a weaker protection from x color
“I hate when people target my stuff” lmao that’s the whole point of the game. That’s playing to win. Your commander dies, your deck does a lot less hahaha
Yarok is one of my pet decks, yes it can do busted land things but there is a lot of other things it can do. Infinite mana, draw its whole deck, infinite life drain, steal the wholes tables boards, bounce the entire tables board, etc. You now have more ETB doublers with Virtue of knowledge and Panharmonicon, as well as using Spark double to copy Yarok and clever impersonator to copy anything you need including virtue or pan. To be fair a chunk of these commanders are CEDH commanders and I wouldn’t play them anywhere outside of high power and CEDH. I am just getting more convinced to build some of these decks now haha.
Isn’t Yarok just a sultai version of elesh norn mother of machines just without her added ability of blocking your opponents etbs? But with lifelink and death touch added. I don’t mind him lacking her other effect because his color combo is way better than mono white.
I have a Stella Lee deck that I personally don’t have the combo cards but I’ve upgraded her and she feels really nice to play. But playing against other decks she was not broken and lost most games unless you can get a mizzix mastery going with a ton of things that make tokens. I think she’s the perfect spell slinger deck without all the combos. Because she dosent force you to play only instants and sorcery’s to gain value which is nice and it’s balanced since your not getting triggers off your instant and sorcery stuff.
Just gonna point this out but Shalai and Hallar is the secondary commander for the Calling for Backup precon from March of the Machines...last I checked, this precon is still $40 and comes with the deck full of Backups and +1 generators like Kelonian Hydra, Managorger Hydra, Forgotten Ancient and you can use Brightpalm and its backup choice to double all of them on attack. Just add in some protection/counterspells while weeding out some weak cards and It'll be smooth sailing.
It is one color but elesh norn mother of machines is broken stoping your opponents etb's and doubling yours and because white is good at exiling things you essentially make Sure they have no board while having everything happen on yours. And because there is ways to go infinite with etbs white is good at gaining life when creatures enter the battlefield. And because they have no board you can sometimes win with cards that say have this amount of life win the game. Probably one of the best white commanders
It's good but white has horrible card draw and if someone board wipes you're basically done. Not to mention nobody will actually let your commander stay on the board. Same reason why sheoldred, the apocalypse seems busted till you realize it's a 3v1 from turn 1.
Beautiful day and thank you for the content. I love playing “good” bad decks. My next is Jodah playing medium and bad super friends and making them a creature to have them ride creatures via saddle :) A dear friend gifted me a beautiful Jodah so I will have a great use for all those walkers wasting away in the boxes. Gideon for sure, OG Tibalt, and some of the walkers with good story from early magic that never seem to make my decks. Cheers and always love and laughter :)
In my Tiamat deck, generally speaking, the next card I play after Miirym is Lozhan, Dragon's Legacy. Half of my dragons cost 6-15 mana, so it's like dropping mini nukes after those two cards are online.
For Miirym, you cant forget the fact that Clone creature spells combo very well, cause you use them to create a non-legendary miirym...and then create more miiryms to create more miiryms to create more miiryms... MY BOY VADRIK, YOU MADE IT ON THE LIST HELL YEAH!!!
Nice video and I agree with a lot of takes. Though including a commander that has not been released yet into this list feels strange. Like yes, on paper this commander (Stella Lee) is really, really strong but we have no experience to say that. Before the Kotori mech pre-con in kamigawa was released (and even a couple months after the release) no one recognized just how broken Shorikai was. A couple of years later, that card is the 13th most built commander. All I have to say is that our pre-release opinions matter less than post-release and just wanted to say that I believe including Stella Lee in this list is a strange decision. Also saying "All you need to do is" (45:08) then giving a long list of requirements is definitely one of the ways to add a huge bias to a take. I mean this commander requires you to cast 2 other spells, give haste (or atleast have it stick on the board), cast an untap spell that gives extra value, then find a win from that extra value. Not trying to say this commander is not really good, just saying that including Stella Lee instead of Niv-Mizzet, Parun is strange. Niv-Mizzet, Parun is a literal two card combo that wins the game without extra steps. As this 2 card combo includes protection (can't counter niv), card draw, and damage. Then you have other alt-win cons such as Thassa's that would be this combo's equivalent to Stella's finisher if somehow +90 damage doesn't win the game on the spot. EDIT: To summarize my point, I do not like hating on a card before it even sees play because in pre-release season people are wrong all the time. To the point to where it is a meme: ruclips.net/video/ElDxIG8Dgm8/видео.html So bringing this much hate to a card before it is even released is just adding extra hate to a community for 0 reason (because the card was released 2 days ago). This video is different than Mitch's spoiler video because we expect to hear first impressions of card in a spoiler video. This is adding hate for the card that people want to play before their pre-con is even upgraded.
This is completely true. I went up against a Stella deck on Spelltable last week and even in my head I was like "oh great this is gonna be nuts" due to the overreaction online. I had never seen or played against the card before that. It was like, OK. Did a couple of cool things and then got destroyed. It definitely was not Korvold/Jodah levels of nothing-you-can-do-about-it sillyness. I'm sure there will be some excellent Stella decks, but it is definitely harder to go off than some of these Commanders.
@@jakecallen9164I’ve pulled 2 roaming throne cards from caverns of ixalan packs and they just completely take over the game when used in my merfolk and vampire tribal decks. One of my favorite cards to play with
Great video! :) Could you please do a video about the top 10 commanders to win against tribal decks please? My regular pod uses this kind of decks and they always overwhelm me with millions of creature tokens!
I’ve got a Korvold deck. Easily my favorite card in that deck is Hydra’s Growth. You double the amount of +1/+1 counters on enchanted creature I believe during your upkeep. (And double those if you have something like Doubling Season in play!) (AND, I could be wrong, this enchantment is one of the better budget enchantments in this deck.) Korvold goes from a 4/4 to a 20/20 SO EASILY. Best sac outlet is either of the Squees (other than, you know, Treasure tokens); just play him before Korvold, sac him to cast Korvold and then… cast him from your graveyard. Sac him again when you swing with Korvold, rinse and repeat. Enchant Korvold with Sixth Sense - green Curiosity, literally - and draw two cards instead of one every time you sac something or swing for combat. (Another great budget enchantment, more or less it’s an auto include in any deck I build in green.) This deck is such a fun deck to play, especially once the sacrificing machine is up and running (and it is… so easy to get that machine up and running).
You can make op commanders fun to play with and against. I had a Korvold food only deck. (Hell's Kitchen) and the entire thing was food and eating themed, Eat to Extinction, or Feed the serpent as my removal and such... that deck is strong but funny to play against
Hinata doesn't specify when they are targeting _your_ permanents, it affects _all_ their targeting spells. Which means Hinata becomes a mid to high priority target for removal. If their spell is going to cost more no matter what they target, they might as well target Hinata.
Fantastic that Hinata taxes on everything not just protecting when they target your things but also their own or other player's items as well. Have seen this misplayed before. Opponents auras cost 1 more even if it's their own creature. Returning target cards from graveyard to hand? Costs that much more. Wanna blink your stuff? One extra for each. Wanna have target player draw two cards? Gonna take one more mana.
Brawl is fairly popular now on Arena since it's 100 cards and uses any and all cards that are available. Which means you get all the awesome bonus sheet cards.
I think Voja jaws of the conclave, it's pretty broken too. The ward 3 is really unnecessary, and playing with just elves, that thing becomes a monster.
I tried Shallai and Hallar. It’s not good enough. It only affects one opponent at a time and that’s not as effective as it may seem. The best you have is War Elemental or Red Terror for an infinite loop.
Because without ward 2 she would be almost unplayable, like Sauron The Dark Lord or Voja. They are very powerful, yes, but they cost 5 and 6 mana, an in Green that's cool, but in Grixis, if Sauron dies twice, you cannot play him anymore. I kind agree with Wizards giving high cmc Commanders some kind of protection, even if they are powerful.
Not my main two decks being Orvar and K'rrik because I wanted to play a strong deck that's mono colored 😂 Orvar is him, them, my brother, sister, best man, maid of honor, employee of the year, CEO, and anything else you want to be.
The new Heliod can easily get out of hand, just wheel once and now all your spells cost 21 less to cast! Oh and did I mention that he gives all your spells flash?
I made an Orvar deck with all the bobbleheads and buyback spells and lowering cost effects. Is it the most efficient way to use Orvar? Probably not. Is it fun? You betcha. Especially when I win with a beefed up Clown Car. 😂
I don't think a channel for playing magic on a budget, should be making videos about what is or isn't "over powered". Almost everything dies to removal. If your opponents ignore you and let you do whatever you want, ANY commander becomes broken and lethal. Sure, many of these commanders indeed have powerful effects, but Mitch keeps talking about them through the lens of uninterrupted power. Hinata is a commander I've wanted to build for a while now, but never did because the entire deck crumbles like wet paper when faced with any form of removal. Sure you're in blue and can use counter spells, but you can't expect to ALWAYS have a counter spell ready. By the sheer logistics of how commander works in general, no single player should be running away with the game just because their commander is powerful. If they do, then the pod was either imbalanced from the start, or the other players simply failed to interact where needed. I tried to build a Korvold deck at one point. I took it apart pretty quickly. Why? Because the table wouldn't let him stick around. They know what he CAN do so they all held onto removal for him early. This entire video is just you complaining about the potential top end of what these commanders /CAN/ do. In reality, you're still only winning about 25% of the time in a balanced pod. Calm down.
Pretty much agree here. Almost all of the commanders on this list are what I like to call top-heavy commanders. They really only work in pods full of solitaire decks that just focus on their own gameplay and race each other to a win since if the commander is removed 2-3 times the deck just stops working because the commander is too expensive at that point. My friend has a Myrrim deck and while it is strong, the deck legit crumbles if Myrrim is kept under control. Same goes for my Jodah deck, it can get crazy once the ball gets rolling, but if Jodah is handled properly it stays pretty much in check (also why I keep the curve at 3-4, so the deck can sustain itself even without the commander). Same also goes for my Jhoira deck (essentially the same setup Mitch discussed on his channel ages ago). The only thing I do kind of agree on is WoTC using the ward WAY too liberally.
The only time we brawl at the lgs is when some one touches your cards without permission. Obviously just kidding. I personally like running a few brawls on the side line for the people that didn't find a pod or table to play with. It's a great format to introduce new players to the game. The game's typically only go to turn 8-9 at a casual power level. you dont have to worry about being the archenemy meaning you can put on the gas early on. Any cedh decks are completely bonkers in a 1v1 format as there's only one opposing player to check them.
I don't think Shalai and Hallar are overpowered, but they make for a decent lieutenant in a Voja deck since they're also an elf and have a decent pay-off for putting 5-7 counters on all of your creatures whenever Voja attacks. Edit: I noticed that Voja didn't make the list, I'd personally add Voja and remove Shalai and Hallar.
14:00 Correction, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth was "updated" to be "Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Horror Minion." Pronunciation for those interested, say "Urik." i play him competitively, and while i've not done the Shadowborne Apostles build, he is very powerful and keeps getting cards that improve his ability to "stand up" while at the same time potentially being one of the worst competitive choices you could play. i'm looking at maining Magda, Prossh, or Korvald (fae cursed) instead. And please, i know how "good" Necropotence looks, do not play it in K'rrik. You have Vilis. Honestly, in my opinion, if the legendary creature would qualify for this type of list but does not have access to blue, that just means it meets the minimum requirements to compete in competitive environments.
No Etali Primal Conqueror? really? you literally just need to have enough mana to always recast it and transform it on the next turn and people will lose
I had a Calgar deck for a while, it’s not as good as it seems. There’s just not enough things to hurt your opponents. I tried putting in cards with light burn like when creatures die but it’s not good enough.
I personally despise seeing the top broken 50 commanders at casual tables……its too high power for casual, boring, shows lack of deck creativity, and takes less work when deck building since they basically play themselves. Its the 60 constructed version of edh and thats the absolute opposite of what edh was intended for.
Amazing content!! However, you should try to work on speaking a little bit slower and enunciating your word a bit more. A lot of people listen to your videos and it’s hard to listen to make out what you’re saying sometimes. Other than that great work!! Subscribed!
Hey Mitch. Your videos originally got me into commander a couple of years ago now with your introduction to EDH as well as your deck techs, and I really appreciate that. I do have to ask though, is there a reason you continuously use a mocking voice to make fun of wizards in almost every video lately? It makes sense to me that some of their decisions are questionable such as often putting ward on things where it isn't needed, but pulling out the child-like mocking tone multiple times per video in many videos to comment on it as well as their other decisions is making me hesitate to continue watching your content.
has any1 played against a good Esix Fractal Bloom deck ? I feel like no one understands how broken it is. There are so many creatures that just creatte tokens on ETB and just getting for example a Living hive copying itself 6 times every turn... basically you can get 36 6/6s in 2 turns with this. did i mention they have trample ? Try it with avenger of Zendikar you'll see.
Jodah is absolutely a commander for beginners. You truly don’t have to be strategic to play it. It basically pilots itself
Put on the helmet. Run into walls.
That's what I say to people when they ask to borrow a deck, and I am describing my decks.
Because, you don't need to think...just put the helmet on and start running. and the deck does the rest. legendary critters go sideways. Uga uga chaka uga uga chaka
I guess… I have one and it is linear. But I gotta say, it is SOOO fun and modular. Everyone in my playgroup turn into little kids when I play it! Some get pure sourgrapes and some get a big laugh out of it.
@@levisavage6568 It's even better now with Kellen and Annie Joins Up XD
Makes me want to build a jodah with all the other cards from the video in the 99😅
That’s rude! Plan on finding a new play group every time lol 🤣🤣👀
@@natelagrassa9337 gotta do something… my son likes his azlask😅…
Whenever I play Jodah, it's me against the whole table, three-versus-one-headed giant style, which is its own kind of fun. Outlaws of Thunder Junction added a lot. Yesterday, I ramped with Bloom Tender and got Annie Joins Up; Kellan Joins Up; and Kellan, the Kid out, all before Jodah even hit the table. Absolutely ridiculous.
Toss in Rakdos joins up and watch your opponents melt when they board wipe irresponsibly as well. It's gross
because of that, i gave my jodah deck a theme to make it less goodstuff and traded some synergies and busted auto includes for more fun for the rest of the group, and also me.
i build jodah in the way that i can include only universe beyond cards and made him a UB Typal deck. atleast the art. you got all your typical ramp and carddraw eitjer reprinted with universe beyond art or have other options that fill the same role. obviously there are a lot of interesting universe beyond legendaries anf some really work super well with jodah like the war doctor from dr who or gimli of the clittering caves.
jodah can be a super busted commander and honestly giving your deck a fun subtheme or building challenge can reduce the power of these commanders just enough that you can play them in your normal fairly optimzed games if your tired of being archenemy or tired of people complaining about you wanting to play your deck
@@xxXDrManhattanXxx I made the mistake of letting a Jodah player who said "my deck isn't like most Jodah decks" live. They proceeded to do Jodah things and win the game exactly how I figured they'd win
@@greatbrandini3967 it obviously doenst change the card text of jodah and how that card works when you play other cards in the 99 lol. but there is still a big difference if i build my deck with the best 5 color support pieces and some staxy legendaries and value legendaries that are win conidtions on their own or if i play fking dhalsim from street fighter and try to draw some cards with him
Yeah that ruins the spirit of the game. Commanders aren't supposed to be that powerful.
I love playing K'rrik, particularly when everyone is made aware of what my lines of play are to win via rule 0 conversations. People see me just hiding away, prepping a big board state or attempting to just go for the win, it's fun for me to see if I can fight through adversity or not. If people don't play much interaction at the table, I simply won't play it. Time and place.
I think Voja should be one the list
Yeah, my deck with that commander wins every single time
Wouldn’t shalai and hallar be crazy in a Voja deck since your adding +1/+1 all the time
@liammolloy1443 A lot of Voja deck do run that card, and "All will be one."
@@liammolloy1443 A guy in my pod runs Voja with S&H in the 99. It can be bonkers. Dude wonders why he gets targeted. Lol
THATS GOOD YOU BROUT UP YAROK HE WAS MY FIRST CAMONDER THANKS FOR EXPLANING WHAT OTHER PURMENTS TRIGER HIS ABLITY .
Ward is one of my favorite keywords simply because i hate when ppl always target my stuff. It’s never fun when your commander gets nuked immediately the turn it comes out over and over and having that extra turn or two of protection makes a huge impact on actually being able to get setup or get some use out of it
Really love Ward as well, cause it's such flexible protection. Mana, Life, Sacrifice, Discard, there are so many different Ward costs that brings variety to the game. I could also see Ward in the future including specific colored mana, making it untargetable against decks that don't play that color. Kind of like a weaker protection from x color
“I hate when people target my stuff” lmao that’s the whole point of the game. That’s playing to win. Your commander dies, your deck does a lot less hahaha
Gotta love those commander's that make everyone just kill you off first so they can play the game while you go make and enjoy a sandwich 😂🤣
Literally any goblin Commander
Yarok is one of my pet decks, yes it can do busted land things but there is a lot of other things it can do. Infinite mana, draw its whole deck, infinite life drain, steal the wholes tables boards, bounce the entire tables board, etc. You now have more ETB doublers with Virtue of knowledge and Panharmonicon, as well as using Spark double to copy Yarok and clever impersonator to copy anything you need including virtue or pan. To be fair a chunk of these commanders are CEDH commanders and I wouldn’t play them anywhere outside of high power and CEDH. I am just getting more convinced to build some of these decks now haha.
Isn’t Yarok just a sultai version of elesh norn mother of machines just without her added ability of blocking your opponents etbs? But with lifelink and death touch added. I don’t mind him lacking her other effect because his color combo is way better than mono white.
Haven't heard people flipping out about Yarok in a LONG time. Golos came out and everyone just forgot they existed
The command quarters Rowan deck is the best he's produced. Thing slaps. Took a bet one turn and blew out 30 life lmao. It was nuts
I have a Stella Lee deck that I personally don’t have the combo cards but I’ve upgraded her and she feels really nice to play. But playing against other decks she was not broken and lost most games unless you can get a mizzix mastery going with a ton of things that make tokens. I think she’s the perfect spell slinger deck without all the combos. Because she dosent force you to play only instants and sorcery’s to gain value which is nice and it’s balanced since your not getting triggers off your instant and sorcery stuff.
Animar is my main commander love that little bloke
Better get used to it. Wizards are going to keep pushing legendary creatures until MtG ends up like Yu-Gi-Oh.
All of this is manageable in any pod I’m apart of. I seek the challenge.
I miss Voja on this List xD love to play Voja but it is OP😂
Just gonna point this out but Shalai and Hallar is the secondary commander for the Calling for Backup precon from March of the Machines...last I checked, this precon is still $40 and comes with the deck full of Backups and +1 generators like Kelonian Hydra, Managorger Hydra, Forgotten Ancient and you can use Brightpalm and its backup choice to double all of them on attack. Just add in some protection/counterspells while weeding out some weak cards and It'll be smooth sailing.
What if there was a legendary creature that was SO overpowered but it had the text "cannot be your commander" on it?
Goes into the 99 for Jodah.
This is the 3rd absolute BANGER Video i see from you. On several days. You sir earned a Sub :D
You make really helpful quality content
It is one color but elesh norn mother of machines is broken stoping your opponents etb's and doubling yours and because white is good at exiling things you essentially make Sure they have no board while having everything happen on yours. And because there is ways to go infinite with etbs white is good at gaining life when creatures enter the battlefield. And because they have no board you can sometimes win with cards that say have this amount of life win the game. Probably one of the best white commanders
It's good but white has horrible card draw and if someone board wipes you're basically done. Not to mention nobody will actually let your commander stay on the board. Same reason why sheoldred, the apocalypse seems busted till you realize it's a 3v1 from turn 1.
The Sheoldred is just as busted… and the blue can be too. The praetors are designed to be oppressive/game ending or game changing…
Love my Korvold Deck. It gets the second most sighs of my decks
Beautiful day and thank you for the content. I love playing “good” bad decks. My next is Jodah playing medium and bad super friends and making them a creature to have them ride creatures via saddle :)
A dear friend gifted me a beautiful Jodah so I will have a great use for all those walkers wasting away in the boxes. Gideon for sure, OG Tibalt, and some of the walkers with good story from early magic that never seem to make my decks. Cheers and always love and laughter :)
Shalai and Hallar + Selfless squire is a funny uno reverse card
In my Tiamat deck, generally speaking, the next card I play after Miirym is Lozhan, Dragon's Legacy. Half of my dragons cost 6-15 mana, so it's like dropping mini nukes after those two cards are online.
For Miirym, you cant forget the fact that Clone creature spells combo very well, cause you use them to create a non-legendary miirym...and then create more miiryms to create more miiryms to create more miiryms...
MY BOY VADRIK, YOU MADE IT ON THE LIST HELL YEAH!!!
Nice video and I agree with a lot of takes. Though including a commander that has not been released yet into this list feels strange. Like yes, on paper this commander (Stella Lee) is really, really strong but we have no experience to say that. Before the Kotori mech pre-con in kamigawa was released (and even a couple months after the release) no one recognized just how broken Shorikai was. A couple of years later, that card is the 13th most built commander. All I have to say is that our pre-release opinions matter less than post-release and just wanted to say that I believe including Stella Lee in this list is a strange decision.
Also saying "All you need to do is" (45:08) then giving a long list of requirements is definitely one of the ways to add a huge bias to a take. I mean this commander requires you to cast 2 other spells, give haste (or atleast have it stick on the board), cast an untap spell that gives extra value, then find a win from that extra value. Not trying to say this commander is not really good, just saying that including Stella Lee instead of Niv-Mizzet, Parun is strange.
Niv-Mizzet, Parun is a literal two card combo that wins the game without extra steps. As this 2 card combo includes protection (can't counter niv), card draw, and damage. Then you have other alt-win cons such as Thassa's that would be this combo's equivalent to Stella's finisher if somehow +90 damage doesn't win the game on the spot.
EDIT:
To summarize my point, I do not like hating on a card before it even sees play because in pre-release season people are wrong all the time. To the point to where it is a meme:
ruclips.net/video/ElDxIG8Dgm8/видео.html
So bringing this much hate to a card before it is even released is just adding extra hate to a community for 0 reason (because the card was released 2 days ago). This video is different than Mitch's spoiler video because we expect to hear first impressions of card in a spoiler video. This is adding hate for the card that people want to play before their pre-con is even upgraded.
This is completely true. I went up against a Stella deck on Spelltable last week and even in my head I was like "oh great this is gonna be nuts" due to the overreaction online. I had never seen or played against the card before that.
It was like, OK. Did a couple of cool things and then got destroyed.
It definitely was not Korvold/Jodah levels of nothing-you-can-do-about-it sillyness. I'm sure there will be some excellent Stella decks, but it is definitely harder to go off than some of these Commanders.
Panharmonicon is nice in Chulane if you build the deck with some ETB abilities, but remember that Chulane's triggered ability is a CAST trigger ❤
Roaming throne works with it though
@@jakecallen9164I’ve pulled 2 roaming throne cards from caverns of ixalan packs and they just completely take over the game when used in my merfolk and vampire tribal decks. One of my favorite cards to play with
Great video! :)
Could you please do a video about the top 10 commanders to win against tribal decks please? My regular pod uses this kind of decks and they always overwhelm me with millions of creature tokens!
I’ve got a Korvold deck. Easily my favorite card in that deck is Hydra’s Growth. You double the amount of +1/+1 counters on enchanted creature I believe during your upkeep. (And double those if you have something like Doubling Season in play!) (AND, I could be wrong, this enchantment is one of the better budget enchantments in this deck.) Korvold goes from a 4/4 to a 20/20 SO EASILY. Best sac outlet is either of the Squees (other than, you know, Treasure tokens); just play him before Korvold, sac him to cast Korvold and then… cast him from your graveyard. Sac him again when you swing with Korvold, rinse and repeat. Enchant Korvold with Sixth Sense - green Curiosity, literally - and draw two cards instead of one every time you sac something or swing for combat. (Another great budget enchantment, more or less it’s an auto include in any deck I build in green.) This deck is such a fun deck to play, especially once the sacrificing machine is up and running (and it is… so easy to get that machine up and running).
Do you have a deck list by chance?
I put Jetmir in my Jodah deck recently and it’s so good
You can make op commanders fun to play with and against. I had a Korvold food only deck. (Hell's Kitchen) and the entire thing was food and eating themed, Eat to Extinction, or Feed the serpent as my removal and such... that deck is strong but funny to play against
Hinata doesn't specify when they are targeting _your_ permanents, it affects _all_ their targeting spells. Which means Hinata becomes a mid to high priority target for removal. If their spell is going to cost more no matter what they target, they might as well target Hinata.
Love playing shalai and Hallar.
Fantastic that Hinata taxes on everything not just protecting when they target your things but also their own or other player's items as well. Have seen this misplayed before. Opponents auras cost 1 more even if it's their own creature. Returning target cards from graveyard to hand? Costs that much more. Wanna blink your stuff? One extra for each. Wanna have target player draw two cards? Gonna take one more mana.
Brawl is fairly popular now on Arena since it's 100 cards and uses any and all cards that are available. Which means you get all the awesome bonus sheet cards.
Non standard brawl, yeah
Ah, I thought they'd done away with the whole standard brawl thing and just rolled everything into historic brawl.
Animar can now use all of the Disguise cards from Murders at Karlov Manor.
I think Voja jaws of the conclave, it's pretty broken too.
The ward 3 is really unnecessary, and playing with just elves, that thing becomes a monster.
I tried Shallai and Hallar. It’s not good enough. It only affects one opponent at a time and that’s not as effective as it may seem. The best you have is War Elemental or Red Terror for an infinite loop.
20:30 You said it right 👌
I took apart a korvold storm deck because it inevitably ended with me taking a 30-minute turn to cast my deck and win the game
Najeela is definitely my favorite commander
Always gotta watch when I see a new video! Appreciate you sir!
Great list. But what about voja, Judith,ur dragon and Edgar?
I know it is new, but I have seen Mothman dominate more than a few times
I have a Tiamat Dragon deck that basically used Miirym as the secret commander. Doubling season, Virtue of Knowledge, and Old Gnawbone, go burrrr
As for Jodah they ran out of space on the card for flying lol
"Miirym does not need ward 2"
Me who had his dragon commander targeted by single creature removal: "YES SHE DOES! NOW SUFFER!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
Because without ward 2 she would be almost unplayable, like Sauron The Dark Lord or Voja.
They are very powerful, yes, but they cost 5 and 6 mana, an in Green that's cool, but in Grixis, if Sauron dies twice, you cannot play him anymore. I kind agree with Wizards giving high cmc Commanders some kind of protection, even if they are powerful.
Not my main two decks being Orvar and K'rrik because I wanted to play a strong deck that's mono colored 😂
Orvar is him, them, my brother, sister, best man, maid of honor, employee of the year, CEO, and anything else you want to be.
Makes me happy that 3 of my commanders are on this list. 😅😂😂
Can we get a deck build for K’rrik?
I pulled a Jetmir and have been building it
The new Heliod can easily get out of hand, just wheel once and now all your spells cost 21 less to cast! Oh and did I mention that he gives all your spells flash?
aragon with the new leyline of the guildpact would have been insane
Leyline is for permanents, not spells
@@UnfitRuler dang
What about Sen triplet or Karador ghost chieftain
I love orvar though, he’s one of my favorites
I made an Orvar deck with all the bobbleheads and buyback spells and lowering cost effects. Is it the most efficient way to use Orvar? Probably not. Is it fun? You betcha. Especially when I win with a beefed up Clown Car. 😂
Man this guy likes to complain
Extra whiney lately I didn’t find it this bad in older videos.
I still need to build my jodah deck. Also for hinata, it’s so hard to make her a BAD deck
I don't think a channel for playing magic on a budget, should be making videos about what is or isn't "over powered". Almost everything dies to removal. If your opponents ignore you and let you do whatever you want, ANY commander becomes broken and lethal.
Sure, many of these commanders indeed have powerful effects, but Mitch keeps talking about them through the lens of uninterrupted power. Hinata is a commander I've wanted to build for a while now, but never did because the entire deck crumbles like wet paper when faced with any form of removal. Sure you're in blue and can use counter spells, but you can't expect to ALWAYS have a counter spell ready.
By the sheer logistics of how commander works in general, no single player should be running away with the game just because their commander is powerful. If they do, then the pod was either imbalanced from the start, or the other players simply failed to interact where needed.
I tried to build a Korvold deck at one point. I took it apart pretty quickly. Why? Because the table wouldn't let him stick around. They know what he CAN do so they all held onto removal for him early. This entire video is just you complaining about the potential top end of what these commanders /CAN/ do. In reality, you're still only winning about 25% of the time in a balanced pod. Calm down.
Pretty much agree here. Almost all of the commanders on this list are what I like to call top-heavy commanders. They really only work in pods full of solitaire decks that just focus on their own gameplay and race each other to a win since if the commander is removed 2-3 times the deck just stops working because the commander is too expensive at that point. My friend has a Myrrim deck and while it is strong, the deck legit crumbles if Myrrim is kept under control. Same goes for my Jodah deck, it can get crazy once the ball gets rolling, but if Jodah is handled properly it stays pretty much in check (also why I keep the curve at 3-4, so the deck can sustain itself even without the commander). Same also goes for my Jhoira deck (essentially the same setup Mitch discussed on his channel ages ago). The only thing I do kind of agree on is WoTC using the ward WAY too liberally.
The only time we brawl at the lgs is when some one touches your cards without permission. Obviously just kidding.
I personally like running a few brawls on the side line for the people that didn't find a pod or table to play with. It's a great format to introduce new players to the game. The game's typically only go to turn 8-9 at a casual power level. you dont have to worry about being the archenemy meaning you can put on the gas early on. Any cedh decks are completely bonkers in a 1v1 format as there's only one opposing player to check them.
I want to build a K'rrik deck now!
Vadrik is the BEST spellslinging commander for Izzet, probably in the game. He's easily top 10.
As a mono black zealot I really miss Baba Yawgmoth on this list. Prolly just as overpowered as my Tergrid or K‘rkk decks are.
I play most of these in my 5 color deck, thinking of getting chulane and Jetmir now
Surprised the 7/7 atraxa not here
I don't think Shalai and Hallar are overpowered, but they make for a decent lieutenant in a Voja deck since they're also an elf and have a decent pay-off for putting 5-7 counters on all of your creatures whenever Voja attacks. Edit: I noticed that Voja didn't make the list, I'd personally add Voja and remove Shalai and Hallar.
13:13 jodah forgot how to fly because he gained some weight, being a 5/5 is a CHONKY boi
Literally just replaced my sisay with the new jodah and realized immediately its a problem
14:00 Correction, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth was "updated" to be "Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Horror Minion." Pronunciation for those interested, say "Urik."
i play him competitively, and while i've not done the Shadowborne Apostles build, he is very powerful and keeps getting cards that improve his ability to "stand up" while at the same time potentially being one of the worst competitive choices you could play. i'm looking at maining Magda, Prossh, or Korvald (fae cursed) instead. And please, i know how "good" Necropotence looks, do not play it in K'rrik. You have Vilis.
Honestly, in my opinion, if the legendary creature would qualify for this type of list but does not have access to blue, that just means it meets the minimum requirements to compete in competitive environments.
Animar is so og I lose with it all the time lol
Good, he didn't say narset. I'm good to play fair magic with her.
No Ratadrabik? I would think for sure he would be on this list, especially with the how broken he is with the lord rings cards
Marneus is by far the most underrated xD
Talked about K’rrik, talked about Rowan, but oh man, putting K’rrik in the 99 of Rowan though…
Marneus + ashnods + training ground = draw until you find what you need
No Etali Primal Conqueror? really? you literally just need to have enough mana to always recast it and transform it on the next turn and people will lose
My chulain deck got out sped and out classed by my pods swap to near cedh ad naus turbo lists I miss the days of hand vomit chulain did
my group was aggro and now they play a lot of combo i hope i can make my Lara croft deck a proper combo
I had a Calgar deck for a while, it’s not as good as it seems. There’s just not enough things to hurt your opponents. I tried putting in cards with light burn like when creatures die but it’s not good enough.
None of my commanders on this list. I must be a good person
Wait, lifelink functions with the creatures ability as well??? I thought it was only combat damage
nope, same thing with deathtouch, if a creature has deathtouch and you give it the ability to ping creatures, it will kill them as well.
@@reagansimpson6473 What about infect?
@@Charley-ju6yg yep! I like putting grafted exoskeleton onto a spikeshot elder, much to my opponents' chagrin.
It is curious to not see Tymna there.
Would you make an updated Korvold deck?
Jhoira didn’t make the list? I‘m surprised
They need to relief the ban on Golos since Jodah is legal .
I personally despise seeing the top broken 50 commanders at casual tables……its too high power for casual, boring, shows lack of deck creativity, and takes less work when deck building since they basically play themselves. Its the 60 constructed version of edh and thats the absolute opposite of what edh was intended for.
where's Yawgmoth, Tharn Physician , in this list of OP commanders?
If you can’t beat em join em
Hinata is not that broken. I have it and it's hard to get a win if you blow up everyone else's stuff
He made this entire video to show how op Stella Lee is lol
get some love for kinnen!!!!
I for one love fighting against Korvold. Its great stealing his card draw, or shuting him down or many decks with Yasharn
Amazing content!! However, you should try to work on speaking a little bit slower and enunciating your word a bit more. A lot of people listen to your videos and it’s hard to listen to make out what you’re saying sometimes. Other than that great work!! Subscribed!
Hey Mitch. Your videos originally got me into commander a couple of years ago now with your introduction to EDH as well as your deck techs, and I really appreciate that.
I do have to ask though, is there a reason you continuously use a mocking voice to make fun of wizards in almost every video lately? It makes sense to me that some of their decisions are questionable such as often putting ward on things where it isn't needed, but pulling out the child-like mocking tone multiple times per video in many videos to comment on it as well as their other decisions is making me hesitate to continue watching your content.
No such thing as overpowered in current Magic, just higher degrees of hot garbage.
Every card, "This thing is PUUUSH" lol
I made a jodah mass reanimate humans , so Jodah is just meant to be an anthem . Still not as strong as my Ovika Mana rocks deck .
has any1 played against a good Esix Fractal Bloom deck ? I feel like no one understands how broken it is. There are so many creatures that just creatte tokens on ETB and just getting for example a Living hive copying itself 6 times every turn... basically you can get 36 6/6s in 2 turns with this. did i mention they have trample ? Try it with avenger of Zendikar you'll see.
Whenever i play against Jodah and destroy their chromatic lantern, i creme my pants….
I actually wanna build Miirym 😅