Not only should Lamar be the clear MVP but Marlon Humphrey should be in the consideration for DPOY.. 6int most for CB 14dfl, 10 pressures, 5tfl .5sac 2FF, 52 solo tkl, 1td, and the 3rd highest cover grade(PFF) in the NFL. But but bur Derek Henry... Yeah last year Lamar won the MVP and the ravens went 13-4 with the entire running back room on injured reserve... Derek Henry was 6-11 with the titans and has averaged 4.3 yd per carry for the last 3 years... This year he is averaging 5.9 Lamar is not having a good year because of Derek Henry, Derek Henry is having a career year at age 30 because of Lamar Jackson, That is what an MVP does makes the players around him better.. On the other hand you have James Cook on the bills who should be in MVP contention because he should have 20 rushing touchdowns by far leading the league.. But he doesn't because the Bills need to run quarterback runs at the goal line to pad Josh Allen's stats. Everybody says well Lamar has a better team and more weapons... But then they point out he has more losses, But the losses are because of defense and special teams.. So how does Lamar have a better team.. More weapons? Amari Cooper has been to the pro bowl 5 times,. That is 5 more pro bowls than any Baltimore Ravens wide receiver in the history of the franchise... Yeah that's right Baltimore has never had a wide receiver make the pro bowl.
If Joe Flacco can channel his inner-Joe Montana to beat Andrew Luck, a still elite Peyton Manning, and Brady in his prime to win a SB, there's absolutely no reason Lamar can't get through Allen and Mahomes to do the same
What everyone misses whenever they discuss Lamar's playoff record is the fact that he's only run an official NFL level offense for ONE post-season, last year. His playoffs record before that is largely irrelevant because he was running a basic option offense without any talent at WR. He wasn't an experienced pocket passer/defense reader, so it was always a matter of time before defenses figured him out. THIS YEAR, however, is a completely different animal. Lamar is doing basically everything at an extremely high level. This will be a Ravens playoffs unlike anything seen before.
Thank you, I have mentioned this for years! Put LJ in a Mahommes or Brady system and he flourishes more than they did. Put Mahommes and Brady in the system LJ played in Roman's system would not be so gracious to them. I am certain! That "Goat" stuff does not include context. LJ is the MJ of the League. Mark my words if he doesn't have a career ending injury.
Gang love the show but let's keep it hot. The MVP race isn't a race, it's a matter of people putting projections out there and being wrong. They said lamar was a running back and Allen was neck and neck with mahomes. One contestant is about to make history while the other is vouching for sympathy awards. Cut the BS, SOS (strength of schedule) matters. Imagine the bills record this year if they played the steelers, bengals and browns tiwce along with the commanders, texans, chiefs, eagles, broncos, chargers - that alone 5 losses doesn't sound bad the AFC least has never been good. Because the voters said Allen didn't have nobody before the szn started the expectation was STILL the bills are getting out of the AFC lol. 1. Lamar has beaten Allen h2h and is beating him in passing tds, qbr, passer rating, rushing yards, passing yards, total touchdowns all while having lower interception count with a higher passer count than josh, while josh beats him in rushing touchdowns and having the advantage of 2 things only (skin tone and 13 secs game clock chiefs game he lost). I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Allen has been the front runner for 3 weeks now when he hasn't done ANYTHING spectatacular stats wise or team wise, The chiefs lost 1 game! He went 9/30 and had the worst game this year by any QB BY FAR. Your point about him having 4 years where he could have won MVP is CAP LOL , yardage is fine and dandy but are you gonna count all them interceptions that come with it? We are trying to force someone into elite status that just isn't there yet and its okay, just stop trying to act like he's something he isn't. He went 4306 yards 29 pass td 18 int 15 rush td last year 2022 - 4283 yards 35 pass td 14 int 7 rush td, 2021- 4407 yards 36 pass 15 int 6 rush td and 2020 4544 yards 37 pass td 10 int 8 rush td. His team has never clinched the 1 seed, Aaron Rodgers obliterated his stats in 2020-2021 having less than 6 ints both times while putting up better numbers and better team record- do not blame lamar for literally demolishing every great opponent last year and being a surgeon in the backfield. Two things are true and imma stop typing, 1. People hate lamar for being black and overcoming odds, and 2) People know Josh will never eclipse lamar if he wins another MVP. You even had this one chick say he wasn't "quarterbacky" enough but is about to have over 40 passing touchdowns and less than 4 interceptions, oh wait add 900 rush yards to it as well.. if that's not the MVP you are outta your damn mind. Just let me know where Josh has had a better MVP season than lamar, I'm seriously waiting, one more thing ask yourself if the roles were reversed and Allen had Lamar numbers would ya'll cape for Lamar being the MVP? Or would you be real with yourself and tip your hat to Josh Allen. I rest my case.
If the Steelers beat the Bengals, and the Ravens lose to the Browns, the Steelers win the Division, so Lamar has to play. They would only be locked into the 3 seed if the Steelers lose, and the games are almost certainly going to be at the same time.
oh you mean like how the KC refs stopped KC from getting home field advantage over Buffalo last season because of a BS ticky tack offensive offside call that we almost NEVER see made in any other game ever which wiped out one of the highlight plays of the season? or how the KC refs were letting Houston get away with blatant holds and blatant pushoffs on their TD plays to let them put points on the board last week? or maybe how the KC refs called 9 penalties on the Chiefs yesterday while calling 4 against the Steelers? or maybe how the Chiefs have the literal most penalized player in football, and literally get more flags and calls AGAINST THEM than "for" them? but hey, you got those cheap likes you were fishing for from other bozo know nothing haters, so congrats i guess🙄🤷♂good for you
@@mattcarberry368u think so When chiefs play the Ravens the officials gets the memo from the league.. the day refs calls a clean games vs the ravens… that’s the day Ravens 🐦⬛ will destroy the chiefs
@@mattcarberry368or maybe how the kc refs didn’t blow the whistle on a clear incompletion and let them keep the yards? Or maybe how the kc refs called a phantom hold against the Steelers to offset penalties on a TD? It’s not the quantity of the penalties, it’s the plays they happen on, KC gets a penalty their way here and there in crucial moments. Game changing flags and no calls. Stop denying it dude the whole nfl fandom sees it every week, the patriots got a similar treatment but in an era where the refs didn’t dictate games nearly as much as they do today.
The difference btween regular season Lamar and Playoff season Lamar is that he didn't have a pro-bowler on offense with him. Now that he has Henry, things will be different. On the other hand, Allen has had help. It's seems like the voters are going to penalize Lamar for the same reason they are praising Allen!
Exactly….how can they penalize Lamar for having Henry when all RBs were devalued so much that they had to have a zoom meeting, amongst themselves, to reassure each other of their value!
There was no contradiction in RGIII's position. He has been Lamar all the way. What he stated last week was the true state of the betting markets and overall punditry - Josh was the frontrunner. He didn't say that HE, RGIII, considered josh to be the MVP.
Great job at trying to stay objective and not sound like a complete hater lmao you can be a Lamar fan without being brainless. Predicting the rest of his career like that is just childish logic
Agreed, I'm the biggest Lamar fan but that statement is stupid. Allen is phenomenal. Saying stuff like that makes you no better than the people who call Lamar an rb or a choker.
Why don't we talk about the coaching in the playoffs. It has been horrible starting with the Titians playoff when they went off script. The Cheifs game they abandon the run. I'm just saying.
Lamar dropped 4 tds last playoffs in one game vs Houston. Best game by a QB in that playoffs. To answer your question that’s been answered for years now: yes. He can get it done in the post season. How about u clowns look to coaching for once.
So why the same thing is not said about Josh Allen He doesn’t even have a MVP. What has Josh Allen done in the playoffs. That’s why they trying to give it to him now. Plus, what does Vegas have to do with the betting for MVP? That’s not a Vegas betting award
Its ok we know the media is thirsty to give it to JA..lmao just give it to him playing that weak ass schedule and div..o and lamar beat the ish out of the bills 🤣
why do people cry about the media so much? "wahhh some people on TV have a different opinion on who the MVP is" lol do you know how soft you sound? like the media hates 2 time MVP Lamar Jackson or something lol get a grip, he's been voted MVP twice and easily could be again this year, and guess who votes on the MVP? SPORTSWRITERS aka "the media".... but sure, cry about bias because you heard an opinion that wasn't exactly your own lol again, *SOFT*
If Josh didn’t play against the Pats, do the Bills still win 24-21? Probably If Lamar didn’t play against the Texans, do they still win 31-2? Probably not.
@@IHJello so that Pats are terrible rn and that’s how the Bills looked at home against them? Yikes! Oh yeah, I’m sure the Ravens with another QB would be up 31-2 midway through the 3rd ☠️
Why don't we talk about the coaching in the playoffs. It has been horrible starting with the Titians playoff when they went off script. The Cheifs game they abandon the run. I'm just saying.
Not only should Lamar be the clear MVP but Marlon Humphrey should be in the consideration for DPOY..
6int most for CB 14dfl, 10 pressures, 5tfl .5sac 2FF, 52 solo tkl, 1td, and the 3rd highest cover grade(PFF) in the NFL.
But but bur Derek Henry...
Yeah last year Lamar won the MVP and the ravens went 13-4 with the entire running back room on injured reserve...
Derek Henry was 6-11 with the titans and has averaged 4.3 yd per carry for the last 3 years... This year he is averaging 5.9
Lamar is not having a good year because of Derek Henry, Derek Henry is having a career year at age 30 because of Lamar Jackson, That is what an MVP does makes the players around him better..
On the other hand you have James Cook on the bills who should be in MVP contention because he should have 20 rushing touchdowns by far leading the league.. But he doesn't because the Bills need to run quarterback runs at the goal line to pad Josh Allen's stats.
Everybody says well Lamar has a better team and more weapons... But then they point out he has more losses, But the losses are because of defense and special teams.. So how does Lamar have a better team..
More weapons? Amari Cooper has been to the pro bowl 5 times,. That is 5 more pro bowls than any Baltimore Ravens wide receiver in the history of the franchise... Yeah that's right Baltimore has never had a wide receiver make the pro bowl.
Lamar is having one hell of a season. He deserves the MVP. Go Chiefs! I Cant wait to see them at the Arrowhead invitational next month.
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I just hope the ravens don't abandon their identity again in afc game like last year! We need our core structure to beat the chiefs
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Mannnn can yall go one damn year without winning a superbowl 😂😂 Just give us ONE! Best of luck rest of the way out Lolol
Lol We ready for yall!!!! #Flock
Payton Manning also had 4 MVPs before his first Superbowl.
If Joe Flacco can channel his inner-Joe Montana to beat Andrew Luck, a still elite Peyton Manning, and Brady in his prime to win a SB, there's absolutely no reason Lamar can't get through Allen and Mahomes to do the same
Lamar will but flacco had ray Lewis holding him down
Been thinking about this
What everyone misses whenever they discuss Lamar's playoff record is the fact that he's only run an official NFL level offense for ONE post-season, last year. His playoffs record before that is largely irrelevant because he was running a basic option offense without any talent at WR. He wasn't an experienced pocket passer/defense reader, so it was always a matter of time before defenses figured him out. THIS YEAR, however, is a completely different animal. Lamar is doing basically everything at an extremely high level. This will be a Ravens playoffs unlike anything seen before.
Thank you, I have mentioned this for years! Put LJ in a Mahommes or Brady system and he flourishes more than they did. Put Mahommes and Brady in the system LJ played in Roman's system would not be so gracious to them. I am certain! That "Goat" stuff does not include context. LJ is the MJ of the League. Mark my words if he doesn't have a career ending injury.
@@ojstoical4044people will see with Herbert and the chargers the next in the couple yrs what your talking about
Lamar not a #2 in the MVP race, but Lamar probably gonna win SBMVP!!!!!!!! LOL😂😂😂
NFL Guy ,I never watch the NBA
None of that matters. It’s time for him to win the big one
CJ playing like he's still wiping the tears from his eyes
Gang love the show but let's keep it hot. The MVP race isn't a race, it's a matter of people putting projections out there and being wrong. They said lamar was a running back and Allen was neck and neck with mahomes. One contestant is about to make history while the other is vouching for sympathy awards. Cut the BS, SOS (strength of schedule) matters. Imagine the bills record this year if they played the steelers, bengals and browns tiwce along with the commanders, texans, chiefs, eagles, broncos, chargers - that alone 5 losses doesn't sound bad the AFC least has never been good. Because the voters said Allen didn't have nobody before the szn started the expectation was STILL the bills are getting out of the AFC lol. 1. Lamar has beaten Allen h2h and is beating him in passing tds, qbr, passer rating, rushing yards, passing yards, total touchdowns all while having lower interception count with a higher passer count than josh, while josh beats him in rushing touchdowns and having the advantage of 2 things only (skin tone and 13 secs game clock chiefs game he lost). I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Allen has been the front runner for 3 weeks now when he hasn't done ANYTHING spectatacular stats wise or team wise, The chiefs lost 1 game! He went 9/30 and had the worst game this year by any QB BY FAR. Your point about him having 4 years where he could have won MVP is CAP LOL , yardage is fine and dandy but are you gonna count all them interceptions that come with it? We are trying to force someone into elite status that just isn't there yet and its okay, just stop trying to act like he's something he isn't. He went 4306 yards 29 pass td 18 int 15 rush td last year 2022 - 4283 yards 35 pass td 14 int 7 rush td, 2021- 4407 yards 36 pass 15 int 6 rush td and 2020 4544 yards 37 pass td 10 int 8 rush td. His team has never clinched the 1 seed, Aaron Rodgers obliterated his stats in 2020-2021 having less than 6 ints both times while putting up better numbers and better team record- do not blame lamar for literally demolishing every great opponent last year and being a surgeon in the backfield. Two things are true and imma stop typing, 1. People hate lamar for being black and overcoming odds, and 2) People know Josh will never eclipse lamar if he wins another MVP. You even had this one chick say he wasn't "quarterbacky" enough but is about to have over 40 passing touchdowns and less than 4 interceptions, oh wait add 900 rush yards to it as well.. if that's not the MVP you are outta your damn mind. Just let me know where Josh has had a better MVP season than lamar, I'm seriously waiting, one more thing ask yourself if the roles were reversed and Allen had Lamar numbers would ya'll cape for Lamar being the MVP? Or would you be real with yourself and tip your hat to Josh Allen. I rest my case.
Yes I got the Ravens going there and winning The AFC Championship!!!!!
If the Steelers beat the Bengals, and the Ravens lose to the Browns, the Steelers win the Division, so Lamar has to play. They would only be locked into the 3 seed if the Steelers lose, and the games are almost certainly going to be at the same time.
Saying Frontrunner doesn't mean the race is over......rg3 LOVES Lamar
Hey guys, "front runner" doesn't mean winner 🤷🏾... it just means....."Front runner." - RG3
the RG3 part was diabolical 💀🤣🤣
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2025, they'll change the MVP to
LJS award,
Lamar Jackson Stuff award !
The KC Refs won't allow Lamar to get to his first Super Bowl. 👀
oh you mean like how the KC refs stopped KC from getting home field advantage over Buffalo last season because of a BS ticky tack offensive offside call that we almost NEVER see made in any other game ever which wiped out one of the highlight plays of the season?
or how the KC refs were letting Houston get away with blatant holds and blatant pushoffs on their TD plays to let them put points on the board last week?
or maybe how the KC refs called 9 penalties on the Chiefs yesterday while calling 4 against the Steelers?
or maybe how the Chiefs have the literal most penalized player in football, and literally get more flags and calls AGAINST THEM than "for" them?
but hey, you got those cheap likes you were fishing for from other bozo know nothing haters, so congrats i guess🙄🤷♂good for you
I think it’s just too obvious now that they need to break it up. Lamar will get his ring.
@@mattcarberry368u think so When chiefs play the Ravens the officials gets the memo from the league.. the day refs calls a clean games vs the ravens… that’s the day Ravens 🐦⬛ will destroy the chiefs
@@AlejandroRease preaaaaach
@@mattcarberry368or maybe how the kc refs didn’t blow the whistle on a clear incompletion and let them keep the yards? Or maybe how the kc refs called a phantom hold against the Steelers to offset penalties on a TD? It’s not the quantity of the penalties, it’s the plays they happen on, KC gets a penalty their way here and there in crucial moments. Game changing flags and no calls. Stop denying it dude the whole nfl fandom sees it every week, the patriots got a similar treatment but in an era where the refs didn’t dictate games nearly as much as they do today.
The irony of the NFL trying to take over the Christmas Day was that NBA ratings went up 84% 😤😤
The difference btween regular season Lamar and Playoff season Lamar is that he didn't have a pro-bowler on offense with him. Now that he has Henry, things will be different. On the other hand, Allen has had help. It's seems like the voters are going to penalize Lamar for the same reason they are praising Allen!
Exactly….how can they penalize Lamar for having Henry when all RBs were devalued so much that they had to have a zoom meeting, amongst themselves, to reassure each other of their value!
Playoff Lamar has to deal with his idiotic Coach that’s tthe real problem…
RGIII was listing understood front runners, not his personal opinion. He’s said Lamar the entire time.
Why does Steve have the Instagram influencer filter on?
There was no contradiction in RGIII's position. He has been Lamar all the way. What he stated last week was the true state of the betting markets and overall punditry - Josh was the frontrunner. He didn't say that HE, RGIII, considered josh to be the MVP.
Allen MVP no matter if you put caps in the title or not
Go Texans!
aint Mixon the cat who punches out Karens?👿💪🏿🤦🏿♂
Josh will never win anything. No Super Bowl. No AFC Championship. No MVP.(He does go 9 for 30)
Great job at trying to stay objective and not sound like a complete hater lmao you can be a Lamar fan without being brainless. Predicting the rest of his career like that is just childish logic
Agreed, I'm the biggest Lamar fan but that statement is stupid. Allen is phenomenal. Saying stuff like that makes you no better than the people who call Lamar an rb or a choker.
Josh the DEI candidate. NFL pushing diversity down our throats. Josh will never be up to Lamar level. Not mentally or skill.
Why don't we talk about the coaching in the playoffs. It has been horrible starting with the Titians playoff when they went off script. The Cheifs game they abandon the run. I'm just saying.
Lamar dropped 4 tds last playoffs in one game vs Houston. Best game by a QB in that playoffs.
To answer your question that’s been answered for years now: yes. He can get it done in the post season. How about u clowns look to coaching for once.
Not even they will be able to stop Lamar he will be KC crypto nite!!!!!
So why the same thing is not said about Josh Allen He doesn’t even have a MVP. What has Josh Allen done in the playoffs. That’s why they trying to give it to him now. Plus, what does Vegas have to do with the betting for MVP? That’s not a Vegas betting award
Its ok we know the media is thirsty to give it to JA..lmao just give it to him playing that weak ass schedule and div..o and lamar beat the ish out of the bills 🤣
why do people cry about the media so much? "wahhh some people on TV have a different opinion on who the MVP is" lol do you know how soft you sound?
like the media hates 2 time MVP Lamar Jackson or something lol get a grip, he's been voted MVP twice and easily could be again this year, and guess who votes on the MVP? SPORTSWRITERS aka "the media".... but sure, cry about bias because you heard an opinion that wasn't exactly your own lol again, *SOFT*
Allen is the clear MVP and was last year too…except Allen is white so this is what you get 😂
If Josh didn’t play against the Pats, do the Bills still win 24-21? Probably
If Lamar didn’t play against the Texans, do they still win 31-2? Probably not.
That makes no sense. Texans and the Pats are terrible rn. Both games should be blowouts, but they weren't.
No they don’t
@@IHJello 😂
@@IHJello so that Pats are terrible rn and that’s how the Bills looked at home against them? Yikes! Oh yeah, I’m sure the Ravens with another QB would be up 31-2 midway through the 3rd ☠️
Participation trophies and DEI awards, come get em while they're hot. Lol.
Your Klan hood is showing.
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion awards? What do you mean?
@@tyrelljmexactly because the NFL is 70 percent what? Man I hope that was a bot!
@@davidsmith3268 Kinda blowing me that DEI means black now. Josh Allen would have the best case for a DEI MVP in the NFL
Your brain is made of mush
Allen is the clear MVPand was last year as well…but he’s white so 🤷🏼♂️
Why don't we talk about the coaching in the playoffs. It has been horrible starting with the Titians playoff when they went off script. The Cheifs game they abandon the run. I'm just saying.
Lamar hasn’t played great eithet