He hasn't cast consecrate yet but technically he has pulled since the mobs are running towards him, this seems like the correct time to cast flame strike/seed. Wait we wiped? This trash is so easy though!
Hey, Tsw, how are you? I hope everything is alright. As you, I play a prot warrior and I really appreciate your gameplay. Even though I've been playing for a while, I hardly use macros for my character; I know there are some like ''intervene'' and etc, but I never programmed any. Could you please help me and tell me what macros you currently use and how do I put them in the game? Thank you very much and I hope you continue to produce this great content! Sorry for any mistake, take care and good night.
you can play prot warrior with 0 macros. The most important macros I would say are your CD macros, for example you keybind "/rw Shield wall activated ...." with your shield wall, and the same with your aoe taunt and last stand. Other macros you can use are swapping to two 1 handed weapons and one to swap back to shield.
Hey. Most of them are /startattack first row and /cast spell name second row. So if I don’t have rage I will start attacking. Then anything that requires a stance change. So /cast battle stance /cast mocking blow this is a big one. I also have /cast defensive stance /cast taunt so I can’t taunt regardless of stance and it will always put me in def stance if I’m not and taunt. In terms of gameplay is removes the need to monitor what stance you are in and means I don’t use my stance keybind a much because I change stance 95% of the time via spell macros
@@WarriorTSW Thanks for answering; I already use some stance change macros, but I still haven't figured out how to program a macro for Intervene. Switching to the player's target and casting the spell is a bit tricky for me (because of my keybinds). Is there an easier way to do this? Thank you again.
@@lovesandwich8783 Yea; I don't usually use so many macros, but some can be very useful. By the way, I already have the macros for changing weapons, but thanks for the suggestion.
@@ApolloSunBringer Hey. You dont need to target the player. if you have the mob as your target, you will intervene its target (the playerer) its easy. No macro required. Unless you want one to ensure defensive stance is triggered first :)
hey. we ran BT a second time when the PTR was up for its second time. Besides the gear the drops these are the gems/marks/hearts: 4 Crimson Spinel 4 Lionseye 1 Seaspray Emerald 6 Shadowsong Amethyst 3 Empyrean Sapphire 2 Pyrestone 14 Heart of Darkness 25 Mark of Illidari
Hey, bis is very subjective but i plan on making a video commentary to this clear sharing my thoughts from a raid leader AND warrior tank perspective which should cover much of your concern :)
Crix: "Bloodboil is like one of the easiest bosses ever." Gurtogg: "And I took that personally." How did you listen to that guy with the nasally voice for 10 hours. Damn😄
hey, idk when it will be processed fully. i would have expected it to have been done only a few hours after upload. not days... I will explain all bosses in new videos soon :)
Hey man Love your videos and content. Any chance you could break this video down like you did your other CLEAR videos by trash and boss sections. I know this one is considerably longer then the last two
kekw "was crix just attacking still" yes, yes he was.. you can clearly see how he goes from like 2k threat on meters after transition up to 8k (also with dps increase)
@@WarriorTSW But Sinful Beam hits you with 7k Shadow dmg - onyl Saber Lash is physical. Why no Shadow Reso gear as tank, though? (Asking as a prot pala preparing for BT)
@@hurtigheinz3790 ok so youre now getting the long answer XD. if you are well geared and can basically not die to physical dmg. the only thing that could possibly kill you is an unlucky fatal attraction or like you say sinful beam. But generally you will be dying to physical dmg much more than shadow. you will compromise your regular tank gear for the physical in order to get SR. Healthstone/nightmare seed. i will ironshield but you could hold onto a shadow res pot if you are scared of the shadow dmg that could occur. hope this helps. also im playing warrior so i have last stand. it is a little scarier as pala
@@WarriorTSW Thanks for the answer. I think I'll go with a strong stamina/dodge gear, like Moroes pocket watch and without shadow resi, since I don't need to do any aggro.
I see you prioritizing devastate over heroic strike a lot - in the video and in logs.. If there is Improved Expose Armor in the raid, do you still feel devastate over heroic strike is more threat? Thanks
hey. if you have the rage to heroic strike while not stopping you from doing your spells with global cooldown you heroic strike. if you heroic strike and it stops you from doing any spell with a global cooldown you are losing a significant amount of threat. its better typically to cap 100 rage and not do a few heroic strikes than it is to do too many heroic strikes and be rage starved. particularly when you want to maintain shield block
hey. hard to say. if you want the best chance, create multiple characters on both realms. In this pug with Crix its most likely on realm 2. Should always be horde. Multiple roles of characters would give you more options to fill a specific gap in the raid. I should always be streaming PTR so watching and hearing what we lack is also key :)
yea but IEA reduces 3000 armor compared to 2000 from 5 stack sunder. So it's worth the little TPS loss that every phys does more dmg including the Warrior Tank.
Seemed like threat was a problem for the entire raid do you think warrior tanks are gonna even be used over a 2nd pally or bear as tbh the cds are only really useful on illadin and teron progression?
I was in full mitigation and stam gear. I dont typically trust healers in a pug so took caution to not die myself at the risk of over aggressive dps dying. If you're using a war tank in t5 then its likely you will in t6. most high end guilds have already moved clear from a warrior at this point
people are very nostalgic of how they think black temple was, people don't remember that black temple was super quick in kills compared to previous end raids tk/ssc in the first phase. You can look up videos yourself of speed kills back in the day, teron gorefiend dying in less than 1 minutes, illidan going down in 6 minutes. people have more resources now to min max on top of just being more prepared, of course things are going to seem super weak. Also have to remember ssc/tk was lumped in with kara and gruul/mag during 2.0.0 so back then they were only given 4 months to prep for bt and not many people rushed the attunes and stuff compared to now and we've had 7-8 months of prep for this. People are in for a rude awakening if they thought they were going to be challenged cause private servers are purposely overtuned for nostalgia's sake. I love black temple but people just don't remember it correctly at all.
It's still going to be hard for the casuals and dad guilds out there, just like how the majority of guilds weren't able to clear SSC/TK without the ridiculous nerfs. Of course the "hardcore" guilds that have players that have been prepping for months will do better but there's only a handful of guilds like that on my server.
Dont... think its the nerfed version. BT/MH were quite easy even back in the day. But I guess we will see soon enough. As well "This is when you need to be pulling threat" and continues to hard pump xD haha, oh man. And that "bro" spammer lol I cant tell if he is srs, trolling or aggressive. And I see the 4.0.1 bug is still in place where the bosses are healing themselves up over time ALL the time. Outside of Circle of healing there should be no other healing incoming.
Video is still processing on RUclipss end. its a long video... it will be 1080p 60 fps when its finished
Theres some people more than half asleep in that raid and you still did this whole thing with fair ease. This is going to be fun for us casuals.
yea like no offense to the guy but the gameplay felt super slow paced I couldnt stand it.
Uuuuh man, that's so good! Aaaaah I feel good!
360p dafuq this is real oldschool
Hey, do you have a link to the spreadsheet you mentioned at around 14 minutes? Would be a great tool to have for my guild :)
Also, what did ashtongue deathsworn rep look like by the time you were at Mother? And how was heart of darkness droprate?
He hasn't cast consecrate yet but technically he has pulled since the mobs are running towards him, this seems like the correct time to cast flame strike/seed. Wait we wiped? This trash is so easy though!
Hey, Tsw, how are you? I hope everything is alright. As you, I play a prot warrior and I really appreciate your gameplay. Even though I've been playing for a while, I hardly use macros for my character; I know there are some like ''intervene'' and etc, but I never programmed any. Could you please help me and tell me what macros you currently use and how do I put them in the game? Thank you very much and I hope you continue to produce this great content!
Sorry for any mistake, take care and good night.
you can play prot warrior with 0 macros. The most important macros I would say are your CD macros, for example you keybind "/rw Shield wall activated ...." with your shield wall, and the same with your aoe taunt and last stand. Other macros you can use are swapping to two 1 handed weapons and one to swap back to shield.
Hey. Most of them are /startattack first row and /cast spell name second row. So if I don’t have rage I will start attacking. Then anything that requires a stance change. So /cast battle stance /cast mocking blow this is a big one. I also have /cast defensive stance /cast taunt so I can’t taunt regardless of stance and it will always put me in def stance if I’m not and taunt. In terms of gameplay is removes the need to monitor what stance you are in and means I don’t use my stance keybind a much because I change stance 95% of the time via spell macros
@@WarriorTSW Thanks for answering; I already use some stance change macros, but I still haven't figured out how to program a macro for Intervene. Switching to the player's target and casting the spell is a bit tricky for me (because of my keybinds). Is there an easier way to do this? Thank you again.
@@lovesandwich8783 Yea; I don't usually use so many macros, but some can be very useful. By the way, I already have the macros for changing weapons, but thanks for the suggestion.
@@ApolloSunBringer Hey. You dont need to target the player. if you have the mob as your target, you will intervene its target (the playerer) its easy. No macro required. Unless you want one to ensure defensive stance is triggered first :)
8:40:20 This VOD is gonna be seen by tens of people.
10 hour raid damnnnnn
Hey man, any ETA when your full BT/MH guide will be available, similar to previous phase?
hey. ill be starting on it this week!
Hey , please tell me how many hearts of darkness did you get from trash mobsl in BT during the whole raid?
hey. we ran BT a second time when the PTR was up for its second time.
Besides the gear the drops these are the gems/marks/hearts:
4 Crimson Spinel
4 Lionseye
1 Seaspray Emerald
6 Shadowsong Amethyst
3 Empyrean Sapphire
2 Pyrestone
14 Heart of Darkness
25 Mark of Illidari
10 hours? holy shit!
hehe. i certainly didnt have a t5 raid and x2 gruul splits before this ptr raid XD haha
it was a streamer meme raid, we had so many afk breaks and players swapping in and out. Clear time will be much lower than 10 hours.
Hey, thank you for uploading this!
Are you doing a p3 bis List for prot warrior and what item Sets are the Best for each Boss?
Hey, bis is very subjective but i plan on making a video commentary to this clear sharing my thoughts from a raid leader AND warrior tank perspective which should cover much of your concern :)
@@WarriorTSW perfect thank you
when are you going to raid mount hyjal?
When the PTR goes back up 🤣
Crix: "Bloodboil is like one of the easiest bosses ever." Gurtogg: "And I took that personally." How did you listen to that guy with the nasally voice for 10 hours. Damn😄
Im sure that wasnt his real voice.. sounded a bit like when "Limit Maximum" would infiltrate raids and act stupid and trolling for lols..
When is the better quality coming and are you going to do separate boss explanation videos?
hey, idk when it will be processed fully. i would have expected it to have been done only a few hours after upload. not days... I will explain all bosses in new videos soon :)
Hey man Love your videos and content. Any chance you could break this video down like you did your other CLEAR videos by trash and boss sections. I know this one is considerably longer then the last two
Hey, yes. It's on the list. Will be done before launch
@@WarriorTSW what a legend
Can you share the info you mentioned around 14min on mobs?
yes. soonTM i will upload a video with this information included
kekw "was crix just attacking still" yes, yes he was.. you can clearly see how he goes from like 2k threat on meters after transition up to 8k (also with dps increase)
Do your offtanks wear shadow resi gear on Mother Sharaz?
Hi. Nope
@@WarriorTSW But Sinful Beam hits you with 7k Shadow dmg - onyl Saber Lash is physical. Why no Shadow Reso gear as tank, though? (Asking as a prot pala preparing for BT)
@@hurtigheinz3790 ok so youre now getting the long answer XD. if you are well geared and can basically not die to physical dmg. the only thing that could possibly kill you is an unlucky fatal attraction or like you say sinful beam. But generally you will be dying to physical dmg much more than shadow. you will compromise your regular tank gear for the physical in order to get SR. Healthstone/nightmare seed. i will ironshield but you could hold onto a shadow res pot if you are scared of the shadow dmg that could occur. hope this helps. also im playing warrior so i have last stand. it is a little scarier as pala
@@WarriorTSW Thanks for the answer. I think I'll go with a strong stamina/dodge gear, like Moroes pocket watch and without shadow resi, since I don't need to do any aggro.
@@hurtigheinz3790 I would recommend stamina instead of avoidance. avoidance has no value against the shadow damage, while stamina does :)
Did they really spend 10h in BT? What the actual fuq
I see you prioritizing devastate over heroic strike a lot - in the video and in logs.. If there is Improved Expose Armor in the raid, do you still feel devastate over heroic strike is more threat? Thanks
hey. if you have the rage to heroic strike while not stopping you from doing your spells with global cooldown you heroic strike. if you heroic strike and it stops you from doing any spell with a global cooldown you are losing a significant amount of threat. its better typically to cap 100 rage and not do a few heroic strikes than it is to do too many heroic strikes and be rage starved. particularly when you want to maintain shield block
how much fire resist did your flame tanks wear on the illidan fight?
About Cap when buffed
How much rep did you get in the clear if you can remember?
hey. idk exactly but you can see in the bottom right of the screen the rep gained as well as the rep bar above the spell action bar
Hello, will it be the same on the live Servers or is it a kind of "nerfed version" on Ptr ?
1-2 packs got buffed last night on ptr. but its essentially the same seen here
Santa would not have been happy with your constant abuse of Milk.
Logs?
what are the odds of joining ur next PTR Black temple Clear? :P
hey. hard to say. if you want the best chance, create multiple characters on both realms. In this pug with Crix its most likely on realm 2. Should always be horde. Multiple roles of characters would give you more options to fill a specific gap in the raid. I should always be streaming PTR so watching and hearing what we lack is also key :)
That arrogant know-it-all guy in the Illidan fight is painful to listen to.
Did any epic gems drop for you guys?
no we did not get any
it seems odd that some of the BT trash hits for less than than the trash mobs in SV/SP HC
I think your devistate does less dmg, because of the rogue armor debuff (= less aggro)
yea but IEA reduces 3000 armor compared to 2000 from 5 stack sunder. So it's worth the little TPS loss that every phys does more dmg including the Warrior Tank.
2600 vs 3100 dude
Seemed like threat was a problem for the entire raid do you think warrior tanks are gonna even be used over a 2nd pally or bear as tbh the cds are only really useful on illadin and teron progression?
I was in full mitigation and stam gear. I dont typically trust healers in a pug so took caution to not die myself at the risk of over aggressive dps dying. If you're using a war tank in t5 then its likely you will in t6. most high end guilds have already moved clear from a warrior at this point
Illidan 8mins? Wasn't that a 15-20min fight back in tbc? kekl
Yes. Its a bit sad
It's nerfed
people are very nostalgic of how they think black temple was, people don't remember that black temple was super quick in kills compared to previous end raids tk/ssc in the first phase. You can look up videos yourself of speed kills back in the day, teron gorefiend dying in less than 1 minutes, illidan going down in 6 minutes. people have more resources now to min max on top of just being more prepared, of course things are going to seem super weak. Also have to remember ssc/tk was lumped in with kara and gruul/mag during 2.0.0 so back then they were only given 4 months to prep for bt and not many people rushed the attunes and stuff compared to now and we've had 7-8 months of prep for this. People are in for a rude awakening if they thought they were going to be challenged cause private servers are purposely overtuned for nostalgia's sake. I love black temple but people just don't remember it correctly at all.
It's still going to be hard for the casuals and dad guilds out there, just like how the majority of guilds weren't able to clear SSC/TK without the ridiculous nerfs. Of course the "hardcore" guilds that have players that have been prepping for months will do better but there's only a handful of guilds like that on my server.
health numbers on the trash cant be right, they are all so squishy
first few packs are harder now as of last nights ptr. everything else looks unchanged for trash in bt
Dont... think its the nerfed version. BT/MH were quite easy even back in the day. But I guess we will see soon enough.
As well "This is when you need to be pulling threat" and continues to hard pump xD haha, oh man. And that "bro" spammer lol I cant tell if he is srs, trolling or aggressive.
And I see the 4.0.1 bug is still in place where the bosses are healing themselves up over time ALL the time. Outside of Circle of healing there should be no other healing incoming.
10 hour video lmao
its till 360p 2 days later
HD now!!
Wanted to watch it all the way through, the follower sound is just too annoying.
Hi, sorry to hear. Thanks for the feedback. I’ll keep note of that
Mute the fake francis
Lol the guy who was talking like he had his nose plugged with a penis? Super annouying.
guy with the cold is annoying af. Doesn't listen at all
ADD EQUIVALENCY POINT - custom - json . Can´t get that stuff to work would be nice with a guide