@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu So that makes it ok for the dude to destroy innocent people’s homes and put their lives at risk? Why not go after the government officials that f***ed him over instead?
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu He said favorable, not reasonable. As in, they offered 5x his original purchase price (for land which had an illegal septic tank modification and no other property improvements). That's favorable. He increased the asking price a few times, which they rejected, then he sold it for nearly 10x his initial purchase to another organization.
Observer: hey Marvin whatcha doing Marvin, adding literal armor to his bulldozer: oh y'know, ventilation Observer: makes perfect sense I will investigate no further
But did he actually do anything illegal by modifying the bulldozer until he started destroying property? I don’t really think so. People are allowed to modify their own property. It’s whether it was road worthy that might have been a sticking point. I’m not sure there was anything to report or anything the police could have done
Even already knowing about this, there is an irony with the name of this thing when it's thankfully one of the least lethal things you've covered on this channel since no one (else) died.
One point missing from this video is that one of the reasons the destruction ended when it did was that Marvin added all that weight to the dozer but failed to improve the cooling system so during the rampage one of the radiator hoses blew out causing the engine to over heat.
It wasn't the engine overheat that stopped him. He went through a building that had a basement and one of the treads collapsed into the basement ceiling, trapping the tread and the dozer.
There is a lot missing in this video. It's too short to include half of the information that is needed. I've watched better videos about this man. It needs about an hour long video, not 10 minutes.
One thing to remember is that the Killdozer's armour had to be dropped onto the bulldozer. Once it was on, it was never going to come off. When he got in the tank, he knew he was never coming out alive.
One thing you didn't mention is how the governor of Colorado considered extreme measures, like an AH-64 Apache or a team with a Javelin rocket launcher, to deal with him. He denied it vehemently afterwards, but in 2011 it was revealed he did indeed consider it, but thankfully ruled it out.
@aquachonk And the damage caused by the bulldozer wasn't? Sure, using the AH-64 or Javelin would've been an extreme measure, but it's an extreme measure for an extreme situation. I don't think it was a crazy idea, especially given the evacuation orders. Besides, destroyed property can be rebuilt. People can't.
@aquachonk It's not chilling. You should always consider every option. Otherwise you aren't doing your job. "Considering" doesn't mean they were committed to doing it.
He clearly did need to connect his property to the sewage network, since he was caught dumping his sewage in drainage ditches, and having tried to connect to a neighbour's sewage line without permission.
or he could have paid a couple hundred to get the sewer tank pumped out by a sewage truck like the other millions of folks living out in the sticks have to do. Unless somehow they were blocking him from getting it pumped. Our place with 8 people and 2 houses only needed to be pumped once in 20 years, hell the Wells Fargo has its own sewage tank you telling me that little muffler shop had more people crapping in it than a damn bank?
I live in CO and remember watching this live on the news. It was crazy. Now 20+ years later people still come to see the town and some are disappointed that repairs have been made.
They also disassembled the dozer and _sent all the parts across the country_ so no one could be inspired by it, like some sort of legendary artifact. Killdozer freaked out _those_ people real bad.
@@MinotStratofortress Please tell us more. All the information I could find is either hearsay or painting the same negative picture of Heemeyer as the video.
Except for the fact that this tale is nothing like the other stories that this channel has covered, because not one person was really in danger except for Marvin here. The dude was no hero, but he went out of his way to make sure he would not be harming any innocent bystanders. This video probably should not have been made by this channel at all.
While Marvin's breakdown is in no way justified, I feel like this video doesn't do justice to the documented cases of corruption and preferential treatment that have been uncovered since this incident. He took it way too far, but some of his feelings of targeted paranoia have been proven. This is why petty arguments can be incredibly damaging. It was an awful situation.
One fact I always found interesting about this build, he built the armor separately and it had to be lowered onto the bulldozer, also meaning once he was inside, there was no way for him to get out.
I sincerely wish you'd cover the Rhoads Opera House Fire. It happened in Boyertown, Pennsylvania on January 13, 1908. It was very tragic, but should be remembered.
There's an unofficial piece of Ed Edd n Eddy merchandise with Rolf on a Gadsden Flag riding the Killdozer and it reads Don't Touch Rolf's Tractor. If they ever have to auction Nick Rekieta's stuff because of his scandal, I'm putting a bid on that flag
What was particularly scary was that there was actual discussion during the rampage to call in the military to take out the Killdozer with antitank weapons. Had the rampage continued, the antitank missile attack would be used to stop this contraption.
No, C4 wouldn't have worked. After the vehicle seized operation, police tried detonating the exterior to no luck, eventually resorting to spending several hours with a blow torch to cut a hole in the armor to retrieve Marvin's body. @@MarkJoseph81
Fake news…..If you did more research, you would’ve heard that that was never an option because United States government cannot use its military on its own citizens. Fake news
From what little detail I have garnered from this mini-documentary, it seems he had untreated mental illness? Schizophrenia? Take a stubborn intelligent and driven person, add untreated/undiagnosed schizophrenia, and mix in what started out as a potential real issue (the concrete business, before it was heavily modified to make it cleaner) to act as a stressor, and you have a recipe for a meltdown at some point. But that's just my take based on limited information. It does seem clear that there is more to the story than simply 'unreasonable man throws a dangerous tantrum'. The question is whether he knew he was mentally ill and never took (or went off of) his meds, or if he was never diagnosed in the first place.
The usual FH video length is really nowhere near enough to go into this story; think of this like a primer on the subject. I highly recommend looking into further videos on it. I very much don't think mental illness had anything to do with this - small-town corruption is almost certainly what lead to this.
@@RoundSeal He thought god was speaking to him, it was absolutely mental illness. Corruption has nothing to do with it - his claims are all false. His property was never blocked. The guy dumped his own human waste in a creek behind his house.
As a studying criminology student, he does seem to have symptoms of delusion, which can be brought on by an insane amount of stress. I’ve never personally known about this case so looking further into it seems totally respectable to get all the facts about the man’s psyche. Overall, I think the basic facts given were excellent by FH and I agree with the other commenters that corruption certainly had a huge part in the killdozer’s creation
Eh, not really. He glossed over tons of details that make Marvin's grievances more understandable. The town basically did actually conspire against him and ruin him financially just for being an outsider. This wasn't just some guy building a tank over a minor disagreement like this video and others make it out to be.
I appreciate how objectively this video is presenting the whole story. No sensationalism, no conspiracies, no cursing... just pure calm storytelling/journalism.
Thank you for covering this in a way that neither villifies nor glorifies this man. He is not a folk hero but a stubborn and unwell man who wanted people to die.
couple of things left out (I assume for brevity): the city told Heeymeyer he could install a septic tank on his property instead of connecting to the sewer, but he refused. They only started enforcing fines on him nine years later, when the concrete mixer he was using as a makeshift septic tank filled up and he started pumping his sh1t directly into an irrigation ditch. The family who wanted to build the concrete plant offered to buy the land he owned and agreed to his asking price, then agreed to it again when he raised the price, then declined when he raised the price again. They bought some land opposite his lot. He proposed a swap and they agreed, then he demanded they erect a building for him on the land he'd be getting. They offered him an easement free of charge to connect to the concrete plant sewer line in exchange for dropping a lawsuit against them, and he refused. He was an asshole. Not "based", everybody in the comments. He was an asshole and when he died nothing of value was lost.
The best documentary to watch is "You Were Lied To About Killdozer" by 'The Lore Lodge' here on YT. Incredibly well researched and detailed, it's well worth anybody's time to watch.
Yeah… he conveniently left out all the parts that proved what a jerk this guy was in real life. I don’t think brevity had much to do with it; he’s made much longer videos.
@@MooneyMooneyLooneyTooney ehhh tbf I started writing that comment before the end of the video; FH did mention the sewage going to the ditch, the offers to buy his land and the offer of an easement to the city sewer.
Yeah even without this additional information, It is very clear he manifested his own problems with 0 attempts to actually being part of the community he just moved to. White patriarchy dictates he should be entitled to friends/community he never actually earned and the self-isolation inevitably made him paranoid.
Strange and bizarre barely begin to cover this situation. Marvin was a man with legitimate upsets, but somewhere along the way, it detoured into paranoia and, perhaps, psychosis. People from around the world must have shaken their heads at this story and said, "Only in America ".
Being someone from Colorado who has spent a lot of time in Granby and Grand Lake, it’s always wild seeing how people idolize Marvin. To locals, he’s seen as having been very disagreeable and difficult to begin with
My town had a similar person who didn't do anything like this but for decades he sued the city in court and would drive around town with a speaker on top of his car while unintelligibly arguing his points. He actually had a point in the beginning, but it became lost in a morass of lawsuits. A few months before he died, he just up and sold the land he'd been suing the city over. I guess he knew he was going to die and just got tired of the whole thing.
I think most people who think this guy is a hero don't know that the people in the town tried to deal reasonably with him and he repeatedly turned them down. I did not care one way or another. But then again, I did not know about the land deal until recently. They offered him a good deal, he said yes, then came back wanting more money until they said no. Then he tears up half the town? Hero status revoked. Didn't some guy in Australia do something like this?
this comment and the video left out a lot of the context that was critical for understanding heemeyers plight. he had completely valid grievances, and the families running the town knew he had no actual power and thus chose to run over him. he was most likely an undiagnosed mental case, but the town leadership was 100% at fault for this situation as well. both sides did major wrong. he wasnt a hero, but neither were the docheffs and thompsons.
That's not true at all lmao Everyone in the town besides the people who were directly responsible for this incident will tell you that Heemeyer and the corrupt town government (and the family who "offered" to let him hook up his sewer line and conspired with the government) are equally responsible for what happened. Heemeyer's behavior was not justifiable, but the town hall pushed him to the breaking point ib the first place. This video is disingenuous and contains false information spread by a documentary that only interviewed people who were directly involved in screwing over Heemeyer.
Knowing little more about his background, this sounds like a man who was done with being told what to do, from his time in the military. He wanted to live in a way that he saw, was not affecting others and wanted the same in kind. His sewage solution was good enough for him, so it should be good enough for everyone else. What he fails to understand is that no one is an island, and we all have to accommodate one another in our lives. He didn't want any part of that social contract, never seeing what that contract offered him every day.
he was pushed around by the town in ways which most people today would just sue over, but small town politics from 20 years ago was different. he was a reasonable man who, throughout the course of the full story, grew unreasonable and petty, but the town leadership were absolutely at fault just as much as heemeyer was.
@@jackradzelovage6961 he was not a reasonable man, he was a prick and a nightmare neighbor of the highest caliber. he also believe god spoke to him directly. when you have 100+ people on your revenge list, the problem is you, not everyone else.
It's funny, I noticed it's only men who think this guy was 100% justified in what he did. Women tend to believe he's the one who was in the wrong. All the money he spent on lawsuits more than covered the cost to attach his sewage to the proper line. His little clutch concrete makeshift septic tank was nowhere near suitable. He was dumping raw sewage into nearby local streams, which is disgusting and unbelievably harmful the environment and people's health. He had chance after chance after chance to resolve this dispute peacefully, all of which he turned down. This was ABSOLUTELY his fault. The only reason he didn't take innocent lives was because of the efforts of organizers who evacuated all the buildings he targeted. He didn't care if he heard any innocents that day.
Killdozer is a fascinating event for me. On one side I can sympathise with the guy but on the other side I cannot, because even though he did get rocked over really badly he didn't help the situation by being immensely stubborn and generally an asshole. He could've just sold up and reopened his business elsewhere.
It sounds like he was absolutely uncompromising, but also had some kind of mental condition that was undiagnosed and getting worse, which probably helped him build a successful business initially, but ultimately meant it would only end one way.
How did he go from being a well liked and trusted man to being basically the town bully in a different town? Definitely had some issues that weren't noticed or were completely ignored.
I don't think he was exactly well liked. The video is a little off on several facts. He was closer to being a loner. He seemed to burn bridges wherever he went
Being a loner doesn't mean he wasn't trusted though. He apparently was at one time. Then he started having disputes with people and suddenly turned. Something was going on with him that nobody picked up on, or they put it down to him being quirky.
Reminiscent of the Bath, Michigan school bombing, although much less horrific. Marvin and Andrew Kehoe, the school bomber, had similar mindsets and anger toward fellow citizens. Very disturbed men!
Another top flight video. You danced a very fine line with Marv and never came down on either the hero or the villain side. I remember watching this live on the news and being glued to the TV set and heard the discussion about bringing in the Military to stop this thing. Really terrifying stuff.
I cannot believe you have not featured this on your channel yet! It's a classic. WhistlinDiesel found someone randomly selling the same model of dozer and bought it, he's going to recreate the Killdozer faithfully (minus the town rampage)
I lived in Granby for about 10 years, working as a medic. I personally know the officer that jumped on top of the bulldozer trying to stop it, a very nice gentleman. Marv did get treated pretty poorly, it was a shame that it ended how it did with Marv taking his own life but very Fortunate that no one else was injured. My experience overall in Granby was meeting some of the nicest people I have known.
Idk man. When you start dumping your seeage and refuse to connect my sympathies get flushed down the drain. Even reviewing basic facts of marvs deals no due dillagiance was done and reliyed on handshake deals with no review and that was on a sympathetic doc to marve.
@@MiguelDiaz-cj4qwbasically this. He's a folk hero to people who want to pretend to be victims. People who want to be "down trodden" but also still be a "respectable business man" and I've always found it pretty distastefully. Like at least Luigi took a shot at a real evil system and punched up. This dude just had personal grudges and refused to fix his own problems
@@jeffslote9671 yeah but his family doesnt deny people healthcare which ends in their demise. It's a punch up at a broken system dude. Killdozer was a sideways punch by a dude who could have taken a deal at any moment
@@strayiggytv if your town government run by two established good old boy families spends most of a decade personally denying your requests without just reasons, and then they offer you reasonable terms at the end of that, youre not gonna take it on principle. dont try to act like youd be buddy buddy after that kind of treatment. marv did something unjustifiable, and so did the thompsons and docheffs. they earned it just as much as marv shouldnt have dealt it out. theyre both 100% at fault.
Kind of left out a lot of details about how the established "elite" of the town pulled rank and broke their own rules and laws to "get even" with Marvin, and that the REAL issue they had with him had nothing to do with any sewer line, but the fact that he outbid one of the "elite" for that property in the first place.
Given no one else died but him, I am going to allow myself to give hin props for his imagination and skillz. Of all the ways to take unwarranted revenge on a town, this will never be equaled for its bad assery. Adding the obligatory statement Please kids, never take revenge of any type on your town.
That was purely based on the quick police response and a bit of luck. It's not like he was idling outside the library until the evacuation was complete before driving through the building. He had a kill list and wasn't expecting to live to face the consequences whether he killed someone on his list intentionally or a bystander by accident. He welded himself in the dozer with no escape hatch.
A RUclipsr I watch (Carpetbagger) is currently on a cross country train trip and he was in this town yesterday and mentioned Killdozer. What a coincidence.
My main problem with the way people talk about this case as if he was a hero. He refused any compromises, and to claim that he was "pushed to the breaking point" is just absurd. Mentally healthy adults don't behave like he did. And I just hate how so many people think that if you don't 100% think he was in the right, you're some government bootlicker. (No shade to anyone btw)
Both sides were wrong. I’ve dealt with “small town politics” and know how shady politics can get. I now live in the country where I don’t have to deal with some of the ridiculous codes. This man had a peaceful way out and decided against it.
Exactly. It seems people are trying to empathize and paint him as a normal guy who got pushed to the edge, but he had options. None of these were going to bankrupt him or mess up his shop. He sounded like a stereotypical person who was never told no as a kid.
@@scubasteve3032 Both sides were wrong. Still, I saw only one side trying to find middle ground, and the other adding 106 other sides to the fight and deciding to bulldoze them all with a homemade tank.
@@arturoaguilar6002 the local government was beating on marv unjustly, and thats been proven since the incident. they were not trying to find middle ground, they were trying to smack who they thought was a powerless person. both were equally wrong.
Funny how, these days, everyone would be battling it out in the courts for years with injunctions. Marv would probably be aiming the dozer at a couple lawyer's houses in the end.
This is a good example of how a documentary can show a perspective. I watched another documentary on Marvin Heeymayer and his 'Killdozer' in which he was painted much more sympathetically. He was a man who many people felt had done what he could, but in the end was f*cked over with by too much bureaucracy and just driven to the breaking point. I'm not saying either documentary is better or worse, only that they each gives a PERSPECTIVE. And it's important to remember that documentaries are not just facts, but someone's interpretations of the facts as THEY see them to be.
I spent two years cramming for a change of career which I could see coming when my virtue signaling DEI obsessed company was going to kick me to the curb in my 50s. The left are very "virtuous". My pizza lunch during studying almost always involved watching a couple of your videos. My endeavors resulted in a massive step up the ladder with a new company which is rare when you make a move in your 50s. Your theme music and calm story telling tone always bring back great memories. Don't stop making these!
Honestly I've been pleasantly surprised by how anti-Heemeyer they are. This is a guy who wanted to commit an act of terrorism and mass murder against innocent neighbors.
I never knew of this incident yet I was a kid but still it’s crazy to think that a man went to great lengths to get revenge. I guess Marvin is literally someone you can say, “A man that has nothing to lose, is the most dangerous one.”
@@arturoaguilar6002 hed lost everything because the town leadership devalued his name and everything that he owned. his stuff had value but was almost worthless to the people in the town because it was so small. small town politics are a crazy thing, as pointed out by everyone who has commented here talking about their own small town political experiences.
@@A_Sad_Adult out of curiosity what was wrong with it? i watched it and thought it was mostly pretty good, good enough to recommend to people as a resource at least. feel free to type as much as you please because im actually curious
@jackradzelovage6961 I'm not great at explaining this sort of thing, but I recommend The Lore Lodge's video on the subject. They explain it far better than I could. The short version is that the journalist who made the documentary omitted details that made the city council look bad while simultaneously painting Marv as an unreasonable, immature asshole (which is probably why so many people in this comment section think that way.)
People like to glorify him as some kind of rebel but in reality he was just a stubborn jackass. They didn’t back him into a corner, he just didn’t get to do everything exactly the way he wanted.
@@jeffslote9671 he wasn’t working with them. He refused to come to the table or meet in the middle on anything. I’ve spent hundreds of hours researching him and he ultimately was just an entitled baby.
@@megladon6 Spent hundreds of hours researching him. Lol. That didn’t happen. Anyone who has ever looked at this incident can see it was a power tripping incident by the local government
I saw this live on the news back in the day. Crazy was the first word that came to my mind. This is something a child would come up with and I was shocked by the entire story when it finally was revealed. RIP Marvin Heemeyer
@@mathiasmueller9693 Oh, man! I was going to school during that time. My classmates and I were joking with each other about wanting to drive a tank around ourselves. I saw the newscasts that night and was absolutely horrified and fascinated at the same time.
its wild that people like this ALWAYS tell other people about their plans...like daring someone to join them or stop them, but they are rarely taken seriously. i mean, you can spend a year building a tank but you cant keep your mouth shut? people are wild
yeah Marvin was absolutely crazy and doesn’t deserve praise at all. calling it a “mission from god” is all the proof of insanity you need. the dozer was impressive but he had no good reason whatsoever to do all that lol
What a horrible person. I had a bit of sympathy at the start, but any person who would target buildings potentially full of innocent people doesn't deserve any mercy. The fact that a library was one of his targets is just horrific. Incredible of that police officer to get up on the thing though.
the thing moved at like 3mph, you can't exactly kill somebody who can LITERALLY walk away faster than you can approach them, not even sprinting or running or jogging or even speed walking. ruclips.net/video/TqEA5DPoEMY/видео.html
@@sauvagesshow are people supposed to see him coming if he's driving through walls? I'm grateful no one got seriously injured but we can't act like he wasn't putting lives at risk with his behavior
Except nobody pushed him over the edge. I've seen a longer video about this story, and he had ample opportunities to settle his feud with the concrete plant and the city, but he refused to accept them.
This reminds me so much episodes of the A-team, where montages of Hannibal and his fellow vets modifying vehicles to wreck the villains headquarters play by, before the final confrontation 😆 I am at the very least relieved that the only casualties in this story is the driver himself. Thankfully, the townfolks took their evacuation procedures very seriously.
I'm conflicted about this. On one hand this is of course a tragedy...on the other hand...it's still funny to me. A guy got so pissed he built a homemade tank and went to town...literally.
I mean they did f him over. I feel for the guy, no body cares who did what to you if it dosnt affect them. You are just some one complaining but when your running over there house with a home made tank. They care then.
This guy actually does have a long one but the narrator chose to leave some important parts out. It’s been done better and more thoroughly by others. I think he’s just trying to ride the Luigi train.
Exactly. He knew he was bulldozing a library with kids inside. "No! He knew it would be evacuated and that it would be empty!" Anyone saying that is coping hard. Dude didn't give a sh*t and would have ran over your dog if it meant him getting his way.
Thank you for sharing some factual information about this case. Marvin Heeymeyer wasn't an everyman pushed to the brink by a corrupt system... he was a paranoid schizophrenic pushed over the edge by bureaucracy and instead of finding a reasonable solution responded by making a homemade tank. Wealthy families do hold sway over small towns... but all this over a sewer line and a concrete plant that had its plans reworked?
yeah thats totally understandable. its rarely the issue itself thats being argued over, its the principle. heemeyer was definitely insane at least at the end, but the principle is what we look at. the local government was 100% in the wrong for hounding him over such trivial matters and brushing all his legitimate concerns aside because they had power and he didnt.
@@jackradzelovage6961 You say it was a trivial matter, but at some point he had been dumping sewage illegally. This was after he'd been offered a FREE sewage hookup from the people constructing the nearby concrete plant.
There's a full length documentary called Tread about Marvin and the series of misfortunes and mistreatments leading to his rampage. Highly recommend it. It was on Netflix when I saw it, but I'm sure it's elsewhere by now.
i remember watching this on tv, as it was my day off and i was just hanging out at home. i was in awe of how this guy modified the bulldozer. but the thing i took away from this is to be wary of someone's breaking point, whether justified or not.
I vaguely remember this happening, and now that I am older, my first thoughts are "Oh boy, another white guy of a certain age with entitlement issues." Imagine if he had turned his ingenuity and efforts into helping the world.
Remember kids. The chances of your argument opponent returning with tank is low, but not zero.
"the docheffs offered to buy his land at a reasonable price". what a gross statement FH. Not everyone has a price.
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu So that makes it ok for the dude to destroy innocent people’s homes and put their lives at risk? Why not go after the government officials that f***ed him over instead?
That is hilarious
The fact you have this such innocent looking guinea pig as your profile pic makes it 1000 times better.
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu He said favorable, not reasonable. As in, they offered 5x his original purchase price (for land which had an illegal septic tank modification and no other property improvements). That's favorable.
He increased the asking price a few times, which they rejected, then he sold it for nearly 10x his initial purchase to another organization.
Observer: hey Marvin whatcha doing
Marvin, adding literal armor to his bulldozer: oh y'know, ventilation
Observer: makes perfect sense I will investigate no further
"seems legit" - dude who ain't no snitch
Yeah, that ventilation doesn’t seem very ventilated 😆
Observer was an FBI agent probably lol
😂😂😂
But did he actually do anything illegal by modifying the bulldozer until he started destroying property? I don’t really think so. People are allowed to modify their own property. It’s whether it was road worthy that might have been a sticking point. I’m not sure there was anything to report or anything the police could have done
Even already knowing about this, there is an irony with the name of this thing when it's thankfully one of the least lethal things you've covered on this channel since no one (else) died.
It was truely terror inducing to the people who had systematically wronged Marvin.
@@interstellarsurfer "wronged" Marvin?
@@interstellarsurfer He "wronged" himself. Marvin Heemeyer was his own worst enemy.
@@Conservative-i3f Yes
@@Conservative-i3fTrust me, there's a LOOOOONG story behind the whole thing. The Lore Lodge has a pretty good video explaining everything.
To be honest, Killdozer is something you'd expect to see on Robot Wars.
ROBOT WARS? I FUCKING LOVE ROBOT WARS
Robot Wars Builder, Competitor and Nerd here. A robot called Kill Dozer appeared in RW Series 2, back in 1999.
Or a movie on SyFy with cheesy FX.
There was a robot named Kill Dozer at one point :P
@@thegreatstapley why am I starstruck!? 🤣 what was your robot called!?
One point missing from this video is that one of the reasons the destruction ended when it did was that Marvin added all that weight to the dozer but failed to improve the cooling system so during the rampage one of the radiator hoses blew out causing the engine to over heat.
It wasn't the engine overheat that stopped him. He went through a building that had a basement and one of the treads collapsed into the basement ceiling, trapping the tread and the dozer.
It wouldn't have mattered if the engine overheated or not, one of the treads fell into a basement.
That is hilarious to me
There is a lot missing in this video. It's too short to include half of the information that is needed. I've watched better videos about this man. It needs about an hour long video, not 10 minutes.
He got stuck in a basement.
He tried to get it out.
No hoses blew.
One thing to remember is that the Killdozer's armour had to be dropped onto the bulldozer. Once it was on, it was never going to come off. When he got in the tank, he knew he was never coming out alive.
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yep
Never push anyone beyond their breaking point, once you have nothing to lose, your deepest, darkest thoughts can and will be materialised.
@@roberthennel Now why are we still pretending this was anyone's fault but the psycho in the DIY tank?
He was a man of focus, commitment, and sheer will
Coincidentally, I just opened a fortune cookie that reads, "Life's too short to hold grudges."
One thing you didn't mention is how the governor of Colorado considered extreme measures, like an AH-64 Apache or a team with a Javelin rocket launcher, to deal with him. He denied it vehemently afterwards, but in 2011 it was revealed he did indeed consider it, but thankfully ruled it out.
That's chilling. The collateral damage would have been legendary. Owens never would have lived that down.
Pussy vs pussy battle, one that doesn't own up to their decisions, one that would literally build a tank instead of going to therapy
@aquachonk And the damage caused by the bulldozer wasn't? Sure, using the AH-64 or Javelin would've been an extreme measure, but it's an extreme measure for an extreme situation. I don't think it was a crazy idea, especially given the evacuation orders. Besides, destroyed property can be rebuilt. People can't.
@aquachonk It's not chilling. You should always consider every option. Otherwise you aren't doing your job. "Considering" doesn't mean they were committed to doing it.
A list of 107 people, well that's ok then, cos for 1 moment i thought he was holding a grudge!!
Would you want him holding a grudge against you? Especially after seeing what he was making? 😄
I think he knocked down the grudge with his bulldozer...
People passing by noticing the huge bulldozer:
Whatcha got there?
Him: uh... A ventilation project?
Modifying the coolant system
He clearly did need to connect his property to the sewage network, since he was caught dumping his sewage in drainage ditches, and having tried to connect to a neighbour's sewage line without permission.
He didn't even get fined until they caught him illegally dumping it! He had many opportunities to fix the situation.
or he could have paid a couple hundred to get the sewer tank pumped out by a sewage truck like the other millions of folks living out in the sticks have to do. Unless somehow they were blocking him from getting it pumped. Our place with 8 people and 2 houses only needed to be pumped once in 20 years, hell the Wells Fargo has its own sewage tank you telling me that little muffler shop had more people crapping in it than a damn bank?
I live in CO and remember watching this live on the news. It was crazy. Now 20+ years later people still come to see the town and some are disappointed that repairs have been made.
They also disassembled the dozer and _sent all the parts across the country_ so no one could be inspired by it, like some sort of legendary artifact.
Killdozer freaked out _those_ people real bad.
Isn't that the theme of Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance @@itspooop
I'm glad. They shouldn't have to live with the results of a spoiled man child's selfish tantrum.
Thank you British man for explaining the niche but rapidly growing hobby of building homemade full scale tanks for the settling of petty grievances.
This video left out a lot of info. If you look at al the facts involved, his complaints were anything but petty.
@@MinotStratofortress Please direct me to this information. Thanks.
@@MinotStratofortress Please tell us more. All the information I could find is either hearsay or painting the same negative picture of Heemeyer as the video.
@@SupremeInvigilator It's called Google, ya lazy git.
"petty"
killdozer vid at 5am was the last thing on my list, thank you fascinating horror
🤣👍 F' me.... it's after 5 here already
Feeling inspired!
thank goodness i’m off today. i’ve found myself awake anyways but i’ll have to watch this before i settle back in, of course.
I loved waking up to this with my coffee and the fireplace roaring. Today’s going to be a GREAT day.
Yesss! Same! I'm off today, just got the kid to the bus stop, and now I'm ready to listen❤
This is crazy, I was thinking about this the other day thinking "Fascinating Horror should cover this!" YOU MIND READER!!!!
Except for the fact that this tale is nothing like the other stories that this channel has covered, because not one person was really in danger except for Marvin here. The dude was no hero, but he went out of his way to make sure he would not be harming any innocent bystanders. This video probably should not have been made by this channel at all.
“The people of Granby felt he was being unreasonable…”
YOU THINK!? 😂
Just a little 😆
He wasn't. Money is temporary, land is forever. They were kicking him out of generational wealth because they felt like they deserved it more.
British people logic😂
@@measlesplease1266 Generational wealth? Please! The guy moved there and bought the property; he wasn't born there or bequeathed the property.
While Marvin's breakdown is in no way justified, I feel like this video doesn't do justice to the documented cases of corruption and preferential treatment that have been uncovered since this incident. He took it way too far, but some of his feelings of targeted paranoia have been proven.
This is why petty arguments can be incredibly damaging. It was an awful situation.
One fact I always found interesting about this build, he built the armor separately and it had to be lowered onto the bulldozer, also meaning once he was inside, there was no way for him to get out.
Because he wasn't planning to get out of this alive. Not uncommon with unstable narcissists.
@@littleblackcar unstable narcissist? explain?😂
@@littleblackcar sounds more like a psychotic break if anything. not every asshole is a narcissist
I sincerely wish you'd cover the Rhoads Opera House Fire. It happened in Boyertown, Pennsylvania on January 13, 1908.
It was very tragic, but should be remembered.
It sounds similar to the Iroquois Theatre Fire in Chicago about 5 years previously, but it SHOULD be covered for “Fascinating Horror”. 💐
There's an unofficial piece of Ed Edd n Eddy merchandise with Rolf on a Gadsden Flag riding the Killdozer and it reads Don't Touch Rolf's Tractor. If they ever have to auction Nick Rekieta's stuff because of his scandal, I'm putting a bid on that flag
Source? That sounds metal (and strangely in-character)
Never thought I’d see a Rekieta reference on Fascinating Horror! 😂 Hell yeah, I would bid on it. Probably covered in yayo dust, tho’
What scandal? I'm out of the loop on this one.
@@MarkJoseph81 Nick was busted with coke, a polycule, and his 9-year-old tested positive for the aforementioned substance
@@MarkJoseph81 He got arrested on drug charges; it's all over the Internet
"Yes, but... I had a red Swingline stapler"
i was told i could listen at a reasonable volume while i'm collating
_"Mithter Lumberg, I believe you thtill have my thtapler..."_
_"Latht year I didn't retheive a piethe..."_
@@DJones476 _"The cake-to-people ratio ith not good."_
@@ellejayqueue8494 You got those TPS reports?
😂😂😂
What was particularly scary was that there was actual discussion during the rampage to call in the military to take out the Killdozer with antitank weapons. Had the rampage continued, the antitank missile attack would be used to stop this contraption.
Or C4.
No, C4 wouldn't have worked. After the vehicle seized operation, police tried detonating the exterior to no luck, eventually resorting to spending several hours with a blow torch to cut a hole in the armor to retrieve Marvin's body. @@MarkJoseph81
And that would've caused more damage and destruction than Heemeyer did.
That was shut down immediately
Fake news…..If you did more research, you would’ve heard that that was never an option because United States government cannot use its military on its own citizens. Fake news
Man legit built a real life Twisted Metal vehicle
Hell yeah Twisted Metal! I still have 3, 4, and Black
I find it unsettling a handful of people saw the project under construction and thought nothing of it. It’s a wonder no one asked him
Is there any rule against owning an armoured vehicle?
@@Martial-MatNo, technically legal as long as it isn't immediately damaging the road.
He told them...try listening for once.
@@spateri728 I meant why they didn't press him further and there are different documentaries about the incident.
@ i'm not sure
When someone throwing stones not only lives in a glass house, but also has a skyscraper-sized glass ego.
hey you better not be disrespecting my man marv
From what little detail I have garnered from this mini-documentary, it seems he had untreated mental illness? Schizophrenia? Take a stubborn intelligent and driven person, add untreated/undiagnosed schizophrenia, and mix in what started out as a potential real issue (the concrete business, before it was heavily modified to make it cleaner) to act as a stressor, and you have a recipe for a meltdown at some point.
But that's just my take based on limited information. It does seem clear that there is more to the story than simply 'unreasonable man throws a dangerous tantrum'. The question is whether he knew he was mentally ill and never took (or went off of) his meds, or if he was never diagnosed in the first place.
Yes, I thought the same. His paranoia seemed psychotic.
The usual FH video length is really nowhere near enough to go into this story; think of this like a primer on the subject. I highly recommend looking into further videos on it. I very much don't think mental illness had anything to do with this - small-town corruption is almost certainly what lead to this.
@@RoundSeal yeah I can see it. small towns vote in the worst people.
@@RoundSeal He thought god was speaking to him, it was absolutely mental illness. Corruption has nothing to do with it - his claims are all false. His property was never blocked. The guy dumped his own human waste in a creek behind his house.
As a studying criminology student, he does seem to have symptoms of delusion, which can be brought on by an insane amount of stress. I’ve never personally known about this case so looking further into it seems totally respectable to get all the facts about the man’s psyche. Overall, I think the basic facts given were excellent by FH and I agree with the other commenters that corruption certainly had a huge part in the killdozer’s creation
Immediately clicked bc I know this channel will be normal about this topic
Eh, not really. He glossed over tons of details that make Marvin's grievances more understandable.
The town basically did actually conspire against him and ruin him financially just for being an outsider. This wasn't just some guy building a tank over a minor disagreement like this video and others make it out to be.
Again, normal about it
Not sensational or conspiratorial
I appreciate how objectively this video is presenting the whole story. No sensationalism, no conspiracies, no cursing... just pure calm storytelling/journalism.
What’s ironic is all the money he spent defending and trying to sue to block the cement plant he could have easily connected the shop to the sewer.
Less money than if he had to pay for unused sewage for the rest of his life.
@@sauvagess Guy was caught dumping his sewage into drainage ditches and someone else's sewage pipe. So much "unused sewage" here, don't you think?
it was about principle after a while, not just the issue itself
Delusional principle maybe. It's not unfair to require him to link to the town sewer system like everyone else.
That’s not the point
Thank you for covering this in a way that neither villifies nor glorifies this man. He is not a folk hero but a stubborn and unwell man who wanted people to die.
No the fuck he did not. During his entire rampage, he never targeted anyone. Not once. Their business, sure. But he wasn't trying to kill anyone.
If he wanted people to die he would have used the rifles in the gun ports to shoot people. He didn’t.
He had 107 people on his kill list. I guess that's called stubbornness nowadays lol.
But he didn't kill anyone, he made a point not to. He destroyed their property.
He's a coward. Nothing more. He's low T and always attacks anything remotely right wing.
couple of things left out (I assume for brevity): the city told Heeymeyer he could install a septic tank on his property instead of connecting to the sewer, but he refused. They only started enforcing fines on him nine years later, when the concrete mixer he was using as a makeshift septic tank filled up and he started pumping his sh1t directly into an irrigation ditch. The family who wanted to build the concrete plant offered to buy the land he owned and agreed to his asking price, then agreed to it again when he raised the price, then declined when he raised the price again. They bought some land opposite his lot. He proposed a swap and they agreed, then he demanded they erect a building for him on the land he'd be getting. They offered him an easement free of charge to connect to the concrete plant sewer line in exchange for dropping a lawsuit against them, and he refused. He was an asshole. Not "based", everybody in the comments. He was an asshole and when he died nothing of value was lost.
Could not agree more!👍
The best documentary to watch is "You Were Lied To About Killdozer" by 'The Lore Lodge' here on YT. Incredibly well researched and detailed, it's well worth anybody's time to watch.
Yeah… he conveniently left out all the parts that proved what a jerk this guy was in real life. I don’t think brevity had much to do with it; he’s made much longer videos.
@@MooneyMooneyLooneyTooney ehhh tbf I started writing that comment before the end of the video; FH did mention the sewage going to the ditch, the offers to buy his land and the offer of an easement to the city sewer.
Yeah even without this additional information, It is very clear he manifested his own problems with 0 attempts to actually being part of the community he just moved to. White patriarchy dictates he should be entitled to friends/community he never actually earned and the self-isolation inevitably made him paranoid.
I remember seeing this in Destroyed In Seconds. Glad to finally hear more background info on what happened
Strange and bizarre barely begin to cover this situation. Marvin was a man with legitimate upsets, but somewhere along the way, it detoured into paranoia and, perhaps, psychosis. People from around the world must have shaken their heads at this story and said, "Only in America ".
Not strange or bizarre at all if you understand his mindset
And those in America were saying, "Wait...this wasn't in Florida?"
@@Tsukiakarix when will your dozer be ready?
We did. 🇨🇦
Being someone from Colorado who has spent a lot of time in Granby and Grand Lake, it’s always wild seeing how people idolize Marvin. To locals, he’s seen as having been very disagreeable and difficult to begin with
Look at this Docheff denier. 😮💨
@@evilgibsonawww… does someone disagree with you and you have to call them names?
@@evilgibson Have any actual arguments to offer, or just meaningless insults and whataboutisms?
@@BlazeTheFierce everyone in here was paid off by the Docheff family
@@evilgibson You've been posting failed video game garbage for 8 years.
You're not one to talk buddy lol. How about you get a life first???
My town had a similar person who didn't do anything like this but for decades he sued the city in court and would drive around town with a speaker on top of his car while unintelligibly arguing his points. He actually had a point in the beginning, but it became lost in a morass of lawsuits. A few months before he died, he just up and sold the land he'd been suing the city over. I guess he knew he was going to die and just got tired of the whole thing.
I think most people who think this guy is a hero don't know that the people in the town tried to deal reasonably with him and he repeatedly turned them down. I did not care one way or another. But then again, I did not know about the land deal until recently. They offered him a good deal, he said yes, then came back wanting more money until they said no. Then he tears up half the town?
Hero status revoked.
Didn't some guy in Australia do something like this?
Yeah, seems to me like he was just a sad, entitled asshole who wanted to get a bunch of attention before he offed himself.
this comment and the video left out a lot of the context that was critical for understanding heemeyers plight. he had completely valid grievances, and the families running the town knew he had no actual power and thus chose to run over him. he was most likely an undiagnosed mental case, but the town leadership was 100% at fault for this situation as well. both sides did major wrong. he wasnt a hero, but neither were the docheffs and thompsons.
That's not true at all lmao
Everyone in the town besides the people who were directly responsible for this incident will tell you that Heemeyer and the corrupt town government (and the family who "offered" to let him hook up his sewer line and conspired with the government) are equally responsible for what happened.
Heemeyer's behavior was not justifiable, but the town hall pushed him to the breaking point ib the first place. This video is disingenuous and contains false information spread by a documentary that only interviewed people who were directly involved in screwing over Heemeyer.
The ad for construction equipment at the beginning of the video…chef’s kiss! 😚
Knowing little more about his background, this sounds like a man who was done with being told what to do, from his time in the military. He wanted to live in a way that he saw, was not affecting others and wanted the same in kind. His sewage solution was good enough for him, so it should be good enough for everyone else. What he fails to understand is that no one is an island, and we all have to accommodate one another in our lives. He didn't want any part of that social contract, never seeing what that contract offered him every day.
As I understand it the sewage had started to overflow into an irrigation ditch.
@@molybdomancer195 it didn't overflow, he purposefully pumped it out when it rained.
he was pushed around by the town in ways which most people today would just sue over, but small town politics from 20 years ago was different. he was a reasonable man who, throughout the course of the full story, grew unreasonable and petty, but the town leadership were absolutely at fault just as much as heemeyer was.
@@jackradzelovage6961 he was not a reasonable man, he was a prick and a nightmare neighbor of the highest caliber. he also believe god spoke to him directly. when you have 100+ people on your revenge list, the problem is you, not everyone else.
When my shit-list gets to have over one hundred names on it, I might begin to consider that maybe I’m the problem….
It's funny, I noticed it's only men who think this guy was 100% justified in what he did. Women tend to believe he's the one who was in the wrong.
All the money he spent on lawsuits more than covered the cost to attach his sewage to the proper line. His little clutch concrete makeshift septic tank was nowhere near suitable. He was dumping raw sewage into nearby local streams, which is disgusting and unbelievably harmful the environment and people's health. He had chance after chance after chance to resolve this dispute peacefully, all of which he turned down. This was ABSOLUTELY his fault. The only reason he didn't take innocent lives was because of the efforts of organizers who evacuated all the buildings he targeted. He didn't care if he heard any innocents that day.
Amen and thankyou. He was a selfish self centered man child sociopath. I hate seeing people like this glorified.
Complete and total hogwash
Killdozer is a fascinating event for me. On one side I can sympathise with the guy but on the other side I cannot, because even though he did get rocked over really badly he didn't help the situation by being immensely stubborn and generally an asshole. He could've just sold up and reopened his business elsewhere.
Yes he could have done a lot of things differently and lived a decent life. He chose not to. No sympathy here.
@@Conservative-i3f He wanted revenge, not sympathy
@@Conservative-i3f except the town kept screwing him over
It sounds like he was absolutely uncompromising, but also had some kind of mental condition that was undiagnosed and getting worse, which probably helped him build a successful business initially, but ultimately meant it would only end one way.
You can't just up and move a business like that.
How did he go from being a well liked and trusted man to being basically the town bully in a different town? Definitely had some issues that weren't noticed or were completely ignored.
I don't think he was exactly well liked. The video is a little off on several facts. He was closer to being a loner. He seemed to burn bridges wherever he went
Being a loner doesn't mean he wasn't trusted though. He apparently was at one time. Then he started having disputes with people and suddenly turned. Something was going on with him that nobody picked up on, or they put it down to him being quirky.
Yess!! I was hoping you'd do a video on this! I saw a documentary about it a while back and honestly was fascinated by the whole ordeal.
I used to fish in Granby when I was a little kid. This event was absolutely insane to watch on the news for myself and my family.
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Hi from Edmonton
Reminiscent of the Bath, Michigan school bombing, although much less horrific. Marvin and Andrew Kehoe, the school bomber, had similar mindsets and anger toward fellow citizens. Very disturbed men!
I have been waiting so long for you to do this one! Thank you.
Another top flight video. You danced a very fine line with Marv and never came down on either the hero or the villain side. I remember watching this live on the news and being glued to the TV set and heard the discussion about bringing in the Military to stop this thing. Really terrifying stuff.
Me, too. On the other hand, I knew Granby well and I can understand Marv's frustration.
You can't stop it, you can't destroy it. All you can do is get out of its way.
I cannot believe you have not featured this on your channel yet! It's a classic. WhistlinDiesel found someone randomly selling the same model of dozer and bought it, he's going to recreate the Killdozer faithfully (minus the town rampage)
Can you really get an authentic killdozer experience if you don't rampage through a town though?
He even took it through town on his way home lol
@@Mr_Welch I would not be surprised if WD either buys an abandoned town or builds his own.
I lived in Granby for about 10 years, working as a medic. I personally know the officer that jumped on top of the bulldozer trying to stop it, a very nice gentleman. Marv did get treated pretty poorly, it was a shame that it ended how it did with Marv taking his own life but very Fortunate that no one else was injured. My experience overall in Granby was meeting some of the nicest people I have known.
Idk man. When you start dumping your seeage and refuse to connect my sympathies get flushed down the drain. Even reviewing basic facts of marvs deals no due dillagiance was done and reliyed on handshake deals with no review and that was on a sympathetic doc to marve.
@@MiguelDiaz-cj4qwbasically this. He's a folk hero to people who want to pretend to be victims. People who want to be "down trodden" but also still be a "respectable business man" and I've always found it pretty distastefully. Like at least Luigi took a shot at a real evil system and punched up. This dude just had personal grudges and refused to fix his own problems
@@strayiggytvLugo is a spoiled rich brat. His family is far wealthier than his victim. They made thier fortune running nursing homes.
@@jeffslote9671 yeah but his family doesnt deny people healthcare which ends in their demise. It's a punch up at a broken system dude. Killdozer was a sideways punch by a dude who could have taken a deal at any moment
@@strayiggytv if your town government run by two established good old boy families spends most of a decade personally denying your requests without just reasons, and then they offer you reasonable terms at the end of that, youre not gonna take it on principle. dont try to act like youd be buddy buddy after that kind of treatment. marv did something unjustifiable, and so did the thompsons and docheffs. they earned it just as much as marv shouldnt have dealt it out. theyre both 100% at fault.
When you're too proud to cooperate with anyone and then blame everyone for not letting you do whatever you please
English is tough
@@derriklee287The English is fine. Both of you lack punctuation skills. If you’re trying to be insulting, at least have the decency to be accurate.
Absolutelly
You sound like a communist who refuses to do the slightest bit of research.
Wrong. Sycophant. The government was corrupt. They methodically ruined his life so he ruined theres. Your boot-licking is expected from an NPC.
Bob Semple would be proud of his work.
Kind of left out a lot of details about how the established "elite" of the town pulled rank and broke their own rules and laws to "get even" with Marvin, and that the REAL issue they had with him had nothing to do with any sewer line, but the fact that he outbid one of the "elite" for that property in the first place.
@@broeheemed32 funny how that works
Fascinating Horror taught me to never talk to muffler shop owners.😳
Given no one else died but him, I am going to allow myself to give hin props for his imagination and skillz. Of all the ways to take unwarranted revenge on a town, this will never be equaled for its bad assery. Adding the obligatory statement Please kids, never take revenge of any type on your town.
No one died because of how fast the police acted to get people evacuated. He would have driven through a library filled with toddlers. NO.
That was purely based on the quick police response and a bit of luck. It's not like he was idling outside the library until the evacuation was complete before driving through the building. He had a kill list and wasn't expecting to live to face the consequences whether he killed someone on his list intentionally or a bystander by accident. He welded himself in the dozer with no escape hatch.
A RUclipsr I watch (Carpetbagger) is currently on a cross country train trip and he was in this town yesterday and mentioned Killdozer. What a coincidence.
Another RUclipsr I watch bought the same model dozer and took it to town on a trailer. Not kidding.
@@JamesTK .. talk about opening wounds
My main problem with the way people talk about this case as if he was a hero. He refused any compromises, and to claim that he was "pushed to the breaking point" is just absurd. Mentally healthy adults don't behave like he did. And I just hate how so many people think that if you don't 100% think he was in the right, you're some government bootlicker. (No shade to anyone btw)
Both sides were wrong. I’ve dealt with “small town politics” and know how shady politics can get. I now live in the country where I don’t have to deal with some of the ridiculous codes. This man had a peaceful way out and decided against it.
Exactly. It seems people are trying to empathize and paint him as a normal guy who got pushed to the edge, but he had options. None of these were going to bankrupt him or mess up his shop. He sounded like a stereotypical person who was never told no as a kid.
@@scubasteve3032 Both sides were wrong. Still, I saw only one side trying to find middle ground, and the other adding 106 other sides to the fight and deciding to bulldoze them all with a homemade tank.
@@arturoaguilar6002 the local government was beating on marv unjustly, and thats been proven since the incident. they were not trying to find middle ground, they were trying to smack who they thought was a powerless person. both were equally wrong.
Funny how, these days, everyone would be battling it out in the courts for years with injunctions. Marv would probably be aiming the dozer at a couple lawyer's houses in the end.
This is a good example of how a documentary can show a perspective. I watched another documentary on Marvin Heeymayer and his 'Killdozer' in which he was painted much more sympathetically. He was a man who many people felt had done what he could, but in the end was f*cked over with by too much bureaucracy and just driven to the breaking point. I'm not saying either documentary is better or worse, only that they each gives a PERSPECTIVE. And it's important to remember that documentaries are not just facts, but someone's interpretations of the facts as THEY see them to be.
Tanks for the video.
😂😂😂 bulled me over with that
I spent two years cramming for a change of career which I could see coming when my virtue signaling DEI obsessed company was going to kick me to the curb in my 50s. The left are very "virtuous". My pizza lunch during studying almost always involved watching a couple of your videos. My endeavors resulted in a massive step up the ladder with a new company which is rare when you make a move in your 50s. Your theme music and calm story telling tone always bring back great memories. Don't stop making these!
Killdozer sounds like the sequel of that movie about the wheel that kills
RUBBER! I hated that move 😂
It probably came from the 1974 movie of the same name.
Oh, I remember this. It was crazy to watch. It was insane and crazy to watch. You have given a lot more information than I ever knew.
Always look forward to a Tuesday morning video by FH
the comments on here make me feel like im at a jason alden concert. Heeymeyer was no hero
Thank you! All the “misunderstood patriots” in here simping for a coward isn’t shocking at all.
@@TheRealAsteria I feel at least half of the "hero" comments are standard internet trolls wanting replies, I hope?
Honestly I've been pleasantly surprised by how anti-Heemeyer they are. This is a guy who wanted to commit an act of terrorism and mass murder against innocent neighbors.
neither was the town leadership he was fighting and the corrupt families that ran it
I’ll show them I’m not crazy. I’ll show them all.
Grade a simpsons reference.
You always manage to find the oddest stories to share. I had never heard about this before. Fascinating horror indeed!
"Wether viewed as a hero or villian-"
Hmmm nah, he would have killed dozens of kids if they didnt evacuate in time. He isnt a hero at all.
This
*is clear
Agreed, to put it politely, the man had...issues...
What? What school did he target?
@@TeSolycMandalorthe library that had kids in it
I never knew of this incident yet I was a kid but still it’s crazy to think that a man went to great lengths to get revenge.
I guess Marvin is literally someone you can say, “A man that has nothing to lose, is the most dangerous one.”
Seeing how he could afford to build a homemade tank, I take the "nothing to lose" part with a bit of salt...
@@arturoaguilar6002 hed lost everything because the town leadership devalued his name and everything that he owned. his stuff had value but was almost worthless to the people in the town because it was so small. small town politics are a crazy thing, as pointed out by everyone who has commented here talking about their own small town political experiences.
I remember when this happened. It was crazy. There's also a really good documentary called, "Tread" that covers this event incredibly well.
The "documentary" is full of shit.
@@A_Sad_Adult out of curiosity what was wrong with it? i watched it and thought it was mostly pretty good, good enough to recommend to people as a resource at least. feel free to type as much as you please because im actually curious
@jackradzelovage6961 I'm not great at explaining this sort of thing, but I recommend The Lore Lodge's video on the subject. They explain it far better than I could.
The short version is that the journalist who made the documentary omitted details that made the city council look bad while simultaneously painting Marv as an unreasonable, immature asshole (which is probably why so many people in this comment section think that way.)
Love your unique takes on these popular topics
Thanks for this one. I heard the story before, but not so much about how people tried to work with him.
People like to glorify him as some kind of rebel but in reality he was just a stubborn jackass. They didn’t back him into a corner, he just didn’t get to do everything exactly the way he wanted.
He painted a dishonest picture of the events. They weren’t working with him
@@jeffslote9671 he wasn’t working with them. He refused to come to the table or meet in the middle on anything. I’ve spent hundreds of hours researching him and he ultimately was just an entitled baby.
@@megladon6 Spent hundreds of hours researching him. Lol. That didn’t happen. Anyone who has ever looked at this incident can see it was a power tripping incident by the local government
@@megladon6 so in your opinion, what exactly did the docheffs and thompsons do wrong?
I saw this live on the news back in the day.
Crazy was the first word that came to my mind.
This is something a child would come up with and I was shocked by the entire story when it finally was revealed.
RIP Marvin Heemeyer
I remember this too-can't believe it's been 20 years!
I don't think he's doing that.
Reminds me of when someone stole an m-60 in San Diego and decided to try and drive to LA with it
@@mathiasmueller9693 Oh, man! I was going to school during that time. My classmates and I were joking with each other about wanting to drive a tank around ourselves. I saw the newscasts that night and was absolutely horrified and fascinated at the same time.
The guy desperately needed help.
The town's people were the problem. They continously plotted and conspired against him. The same happened at Waco. Corrupt politicians.
Everyone around him was more content on screwing him over than anything else.
they say he did it all himself anyhow
He helped himself!
Yea, he definitely needed a tow truck with a winch there at the end.
its wild that people like this ALWAYS tell other people about their plans...like daring someone to join them or stop them, but they are rarely taken seriously.
i mean, you can spend a year building a tank but you cant keep your mouth shut? people are wild
well when its your entire life for a full year, its hard not to even accidentally mention something about it
I'm pretty sure we've all had this fantasy in one way or another. It's just Heeymeyer actually made his come true.
yeah Marvin was absolutely crazy and doesn’t deserve praise at all. calling it a “mission from god” is all the proof of insanity you need. the dozer was impressive but he had no good reason whatsoever to do all that lol
The crazy thing about this story is that there were zero casualties. None.
Unless you count his own self unaliving.
@@MikinessAnalog he killed himself
@@MikinessAnalog you talk like that in real life?
Yes but was it his choice or simply the good luck of the kids who got evacuated from the library moments before he tore into it?
He shot at propane tanks and bulldozed the library. He tried to kill people.
This is why people should be allowed to own anti-tank missiles. You never know when you might need them.
What a horrible person. I had a bit of sympathy at the start, but any person who would target buildings potentially full of innocent people doesn't deserve any mercy. The fact that a library was one of his targets is just horrific.
Incredible of that police officer to get up on the thing though.
the thing moved at like 3mph, you can't exactly kill somebody who can LITERALLY walk away faster than you can approach them, not even sprinting or running or jogging or even speed walking. ruclips.net/video/TqEA5DPoEMY/видео.html
@@sauvagesshow are people supposed to see him coming if he's driving through walls? I'm grateful no one got seriously injured but we can't act like he wasn't putting lives at risk with his behavior
now do the town leadership and the docheffs and thompsons...
I know this story but I wanted to hear you tell it. It won't disappoint. Thanks.
I almost forgot it was Tuesday!!
This is crazy, I've never heard of this. Thank you ❤
I feel you Marvin.
I was literally just telling my mom about this yesterday, this is wild to pop up right now
Whisling Diesel did a video about this where he bought the same model dozer and brought it through the same town when he was bringing it home.
Came here to say this. Good to see I'm not the only one who watches WD as well as this channel.
"Marvin Heemeyer was born in 1951 in South Dakota..."
Me, a South Dakotan: *This is precisely why we can't have nice things*
As a Coloradan (I’m not a native thank goodness) this guy does not surprise me AT ALL. It’s the thin air here that makes people go a little…off.
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When you push a bloke too far but he has mad welding and engineering skills
How would you feel if your home was one of the properties destroyed by Captain Killdozer?
Except nobody pushed him over the edge. I've seen a longer video about this story, and he had ample opportunities to settle his feud with the concrete plant and the city, but he refused to accept them.
This reminds me so much episodes of the A-team, where montages of Hannibal and his fellow vets modifying vehicles to wreck the villains headquarters play by, before the final confrontation
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I am at the very least relieved that the only casualties in this story is the driver himself. Thankfully, the townfolks took their evacuation procedures very seriously.
He pushed himself.
@@teddymartinii1979 then why are the docheffs and thompsons household names in this story? explain that one.
I'm conflicted about this. On one hand this is of course a tragedy...on the other hand...it's still funny to me. A guy got so pissed he built a homemade tank and went to town...literally.
When you have grudges against 107 people, it might be you.
Yes. He sounds like a real “d”.
I mean they did f him over. I feel for the guy, no body cares who did what to you if it dosnt affect them. You are just some one complaining but when your running over there house with a home made tank. They care then.
Or not. 😂
That’s what they want you to think.
He rebelled against a city government that tried to price him off his own property. Well, they got what they wanted... Albeit at great cost
The most disappointing part about this is that the "Killdozer" was effectively dissolved. Kinda wish it had ended up in a museum.
Supervillains all have origin stories. But, they don't always have long lives.
This guy actually does have a long one but the narrator chose to leave some important parts out. It’s been done better and more thoroughly by others. I think he’s just trying to ride the Luigi train.
@@handrewssafetyminute560 Would you like to share those important parts that the narrator left out?
@@handrewssafetyminute560 this narrator has been making short videos about these topics for years lol
He ain't no villain.
@@ResistProject2025 Here on yt you can find the tapes where Marvin Heemeyer tells his story.
OK, this is low-key kinda awesome. Who hasn't dreamed of living this experience?
Guy wasn't thinking about the safety of himself or others around him. Was willing to take out children too.
Exactly. He knew he was bulldozing a library with kids inside.
"No! He knew it would be evacuated and that it would be empty!" Anyone saying that is coping hard. Dude didn't give a sh*t and would have ran over your dog if it meant him getting his way.
Have you seen how fast bulldozers move? A healthy toddler can get out of the way.
@@interstellarsurfer still, though, don’t drive a bulldozer directly toward one… especially when you plan on destroying the building they’re in
You can still find his audio tapes on yt , where Marvin himself explains how and why it was going to happen.
Thank you for sharing some factual information about this case. Marvin Heeymeyer wasn't an everyman pushed to the brink by a corrupt system... he was a paranoid schizophrenic pushed over the edge by bureaucracy and instead of finding a reasonable solution responded by making a homemade tank. Wealthy families do hold sway over small towns... but all this over a sewer line and a concrete plant that had its plans reworked?
yeah thats totally understandable. its rarely the issue itself thats being argued over, its the principle. heemeyer was definitely insane at least at the end, but the principle is what we look at. the local government was 100% in the wrong for hounding him over such trivial matters and brushing all his legitimate concerns aside because they had power and he didnt.
@@jackradzelovage6961 You say it was a trivial matter, but at some point he had been dumping sewage illegally. This was after he'd been offered a FREE sewage hookup from the people constructing the nearby concrete plant.
There's a full length documentary called Tread about Marvin and the series of misfortunes and mistreatments leading to his rampage. Highly recommend it. It was on Netflix when I saw it, but I'm sure it's elsewhere by now.
This guy was a very sick person. Thanks to the EMS for getting ahead of this nutter to save lives.
i remember watching this on tv, as it was my day off and i was just hanging out at home. i was in awe of how this guy modified the bulldozer. but the thing i took away from this is to be wary of someone's breaking point, whether justified or not.
I vaguely remember this happening, and now that I am older, my first thoughts are "Oh boy, another white guy of a certain age with entitlement issues." Imagine if he had turned his ingenuity and efforts into helping the world.
thats a very weird take....
even if i heard the story a few time, for you i make an exception for your excellent presentation that still feels novel