Trying to Explain Every C'tan
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I have a theory that has no basis in reality, but I think would be cool.
The Outsider is the reason the Ghoul stars are the way they are. Maybe they were already funky, and the Outsider made them more so, or maybe the outsider decided to hang out over there and just... do his thing.
Tyranids dont like the ghoul stars. Chaos doesnt like the ghoul stars. The Imperium has almost no worlds inside the ghoul stars. The Eldar dont travel there. There aren't any tomb worlds there, with the notable exception being the Bone Kingdom of Drazak, which, ya'know, billions of flayed ones all on one planet...
So, thats my theory. The outsider decided to hang out in the ghoul stars and cause problems on purpose.
Or the ghoul stars are the graveyard for the flayer hence the high number of flayed ones and why it’s so horrific and deadly
I know the odds are practically nonexistent but man would I love to see an official Valgûl mini for 40k
So the safest place in the galaxy to avoid the Imperium is actually the worst place to ever be.
@@LutherMahoney what on Terra would make one want to avoid the Imperium of Man?
Conspiracy: Llandu'gor dying is why the setting is covered in body horror and decorated with the dead. It's why Dark Eldar and Night Lords are the way they are. It's why the Imperium uses servitors and decorates everything in skulls. Etc.
Oh that's really good
It's why so many aliens are fucked-up murder-monsters in the setting too. It's why the tyranids are tyranids.
@sethrinker9944 so kinda Slaanesh's step-mom/dad.. make washing machines a tech-heresy
That makes sense... And hence is likely NOT why, given games workshops tendency to tie EVERYTHING to some named character MARINE and his hijinks.
I like it though.
Also, the arisen and the potent ate sound EXACTLY like the reasons for the Tau Empire, if you ask me.
Discuss.
There is a fanwork where C'tan were established as avatars of natural concepts of material universe, in opposition to Warp gods who are avatars of emotions and narrative. Things like time, energy, etc. Llandu'gor was life and it's established by the author that his death broke the way life works. This is why everyone is so goddamn aggressive - the universe is broken on a fundamental level since Necrons killed a critical principle of existence.
There is a secret mission chain in mechanicus that culminates in a battle with a c'tan refered to as the sufferer
Thank you
I've been in WH40K since 5th edition.
_I have never known that Necrons was short for Necro Automatons._
*_Of all the Ferrus Manus Iron Hands shit, HOW DID I NOT CATCH THAT._*
B r o ...
I'm pretty sure Necrontyr are meant to be either necro pinoneers (sound) or necro tyrants (visual)
@@PhantomGato-v-WHAT
Yeah that's up there with Autobot being Autonomous Robot.
@@PhantomGato-v-Phonetically, 'Tier' means animal in German.
Rather than be the source of the nids, there is some cool lore indicating the nids are actively going around something outside the galaxy. Like they want nothing to do with it. Which given its implied to be the Outsider, makes sense they are keeping clear of the fully powered star god
I saw someone make a joke that the nids were actually running away from the humans that colonized the rest of the universe when they were at their peak during the dark age of technology. And they were just stomping and conquering every galaxy until the nids got push into the original galaxy that those humans came from in which happened to not have those humans anymore as they had fallen now.
@@Dimitri88888888oooh that's a cool thought
@@Dimitri88888888 there's also the joke that the entire rest of the universe is split between galaxies that are 100% nids and ones that are 100% orks. Such that every galaxy ends up getting completely overrun by one of the two
@@thewerdna lmao, also very believable tbh
The Necrons in general are a case of what I liked to call "high-sci-fi". Basically, the term exists to describe a race or faction in sci-fi that fills the same role as an extremely powerful magical society would in a high fantasy setting. They don't use magic or anything like that, far from it. Their technology is simply so advanced from MILLIONS of years of continued existence and innovation that reality itself is at their beck and call. The Eldar use the Warp for basically everything and use the Webway for travel, while the Necrons simply figured out how to make FTL drives. While they themselves are not magical, it might as well be because of how unbelievably powerful they are.
The C'tan compliment this perfectly. They're not immaterial gods like the Tzeentch or Khaine, they are physical beings whose basic biology makes them near divine.
Ctan aren't biological tho? They are energy clouds stuck in metal bodies
@@nolanbaker2360 they weren’t originally metal, and technically the energy makes up their biology as they are living things that require food to survive.
@@LordCrate-du8zm nah mab biology is matter and flesh not a cloud of gas and abstract energies
Ctan aren't biological at all
I honestly like this idea. And fitting to be honest
@@LordCrate-du8zm nah a sentient energy cloud is not biological in anyway. There's no tissues or DNA, or he'll even reproduction
The ctan have existed since the big bang. They are fundamental to the structure of reality. That's why when the necrons killed llandro-gor(unsure if I spelled it right) the Flayler. It gave them the virus and potentially was what weakened the ghoul stars
You know, when i was in elementary school, they had this blind guy come and speak at an assembly, yeah i can't remember why, but he said something that still sticks with me. He said that a lot of people think he just sees blackness all the time, but that's not what being blind is like. He said that he can't really explain it to seeing people, but that he sees "what you see behind your head". That's always stuck with me, i think that's the best way i can wrap my head around what Mag'ladroth represents.
Not black
Not white
True nothingness
This is why being blind has always scared me (including all the obvious answers). There’s some comfort in only seeing black because at least your still seeing. But you don’t even get that: you get absolutely nothing.
I think it has to be like seeing what you see when you dream. Your brain turns off your eyes and ears and muscles when you sleep, so what you're seeing in your dream is generated entirely by the vision center of your brain.
But, if you're born blind, your brain doesn't know what anything looks like, so who knows what blind people dream of.
Close your eyes and look at a light. That's one type of blindness though and there's a few different kinds.
Well that's horrific
"...a tier list of C'tan based on what we know..."
The Outsider. It's the Outsider. It consumed so many other C'tan (because C'tan are incapable of death, the just get absorbed and subsumed by the more powerful one) that it's personality shattered, is so unkillable even by C'tan standards that an entire Dyson Sphere had to be built to contain it then yeeted into the intergalactic void and is so unimaginably dangerous that even the massed might of the entire Tyranid superorganism went out of its way to avoid it on it's way to the 40k galaxy.
EDIT:
The Void Dragon is no longer on Mars. There was versus box of Necron vs Martian AdMech back in either 7th or 8th called Forgebane. Pretty nice box because you got two whole Armigers in it... erm that was besides the point but anyways yeah that was the Necrons raiding the Noctus Labyrinth and releasing/stealing back the shard imprisoned there. That has pretty big ramifications for the future of the AdMech because while it's influence is currently still present that's going to fade over time.
The implications of this is tremendous but we probbaly won't know what's behind the curtain untill muuuch later
@@launcherx2044 Aye, Vashtorr becoming the Chaos Machine God is much more likely to happen first... especially considering he is fully aware of where his power comes from. Probably something that won't even begin affecting the setting unless they time skipped at least a thousand years or so.
@@steweygrrr on that note I very much would love an interaction between Vashtorr and Perturabo, if Vasthorr were to truly ascend I hope Perty will be his champion.
@launcherx2044 apparently while Perturabo "tolerates," and that is making that word do a _lot_ of heavy lifting, Vashtorr's existence they actually collaborate on quite a few projects in the Soul Forges. It would be cool if it were Vashtorr who actually elevated him in the first place and would make significantly more sense than any of the other Powers doing so.
@@steweygrrrmy headcanon for perty lol
To illustrate how powerful the C'tan are, in one of the books (won't say which one for spoilery reasons), the Deceiver just casually reaches into an alternate dimension to pull out what is essentially (iirc) a sun that really does not agree to exist within the 40k universe's physics, just to chuck it at people.
This was just a few shards of the Deceiver too.
I love the idea that the death of one of the C’tan caused the destruction of the barrier that kept the warp and the materium separate.🐱
I know one cursed them with the flyer virus
I heard a theory that the one ctan who first started eating each other made the nids
Have not read enough to know
Do you mean the warp and the materium? Asking for real. Figured warp and immaterium are the same
@@Danny-pk6lk yeah I meant to say materium my bad.🐱
There was a connection before the War in Heaven the Old Ones used the Warp
Didn’t the Eldar pantheon play a part in that? Something about how Asuryeon had to separate the two because of Khaine. I know this is opposite to the initial question, but time lining wise it’d probably have to take place after this event, that or the Eldar pantheon killed the C’tan that broke the barrier.
I think the concept of the C'tan as deities created by the Necrons is really interesting because its basically them reaching a technological singularity. Through their own knowledge and science they were able to create actual divine beings who would then immediately go out of control and use their divine powers to assert control themselves and make a mockery of all the laws of physics the Necrons thought they previously understood.
The Necrons didn't create the C'Tan, they were already existing beings that just ate stars. The Necrons only built them bodies.
@@LordCrate-du8zm Technically yes but let's be real the Necrons made the C'tan what they are now. I'm not even certain if they were really conscious entities before being given bodies to inhabit.
@@theodorehodbor5080I agree 100% I think apon awakening in their necrodermis bodies they saw the way the necrontyr acted and imprinted that toxic Cranky vibe into themselves
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Apparently the C'Tan were somewhat sentient and actually gave the Necron's quite a bit of knowledge, which they have because they are basically the eldest entities in the Galaxy that we know of, and, say, deatomising someone is as simple as a thought given how they are supremely skilled at manipulating physical law, through both billions of years experience and their nature, through the application of raw energy, so the basic process of explaining this was, in part, some of the Necron's singularity as they were apparently inspired by the C'Tan to create the god breaking reality warping weapons the Necron's turned on the Old One's (which is why they won the second time around).
They were "Star Vampires" that consumed stellar energy and managed to contact the Necron's straight up, but it was probably a different type of consciousness.
The C'Tan beforehand were nebulous energy beings, still powerful, but limited due to their form. The Necron's gave them a single material form and the focus through which they could unleash all that insane energy through to mind breaking effect.
i wonder who are real GODS
The C'tan are basically captain atom and silver surfer's psychotic extended family they don't want to be around or talk about.
Captain atom was just a guy who got turned into raw energy in a suit? I don't get it
@@UnholyWrath3277 his skin/ body is made of a substance called dilustel. It may not be necrodermis but he's living energy in a metal body much like a ctan. Although unlike the ctan, he gets to use his powers much better
The 3rd edition Necron Codex had a galaxy map which included an image of a Dyson Sphere on the galaxy’s edge which was suggested to be either the habitation of the Outsider, or its current physical form. That’s still the Outsider in my head canon.
I've heard of that may be a prison for his biggest shard
@@nolanbaker2360He doesnt have shards
@@crim1188 OH hes the unbroken one
I knew a ctan was whole but was unawares as to whom
I wanna see the Outsider get a model that acts as a Titanic unit for the Necrons, costing something like 2000 points and basically being an entire army in its own right.
Since you brought up the idea of Loneliness for it, I could see it doing something to the effect of nullifying army and detachment rules for your opponent, making them feel like they're on their own without any support or help
Strey! Heyo. It's Argo.
@@wingedhussarswiss4703 oh hey
Full C'tan are just too powerful to ever be accurately represented on the TT, much less in only 2000 points. They're like if you brought a chaos god down to a battlefield, they're not titans, they're more like an endlessly capable exterminatus, even shards can make a mockery of entire fleets.
@@tau-5794 ah, but it would be funny to drop a full C'Tan on the tabletop. Also, almost nothing on the Tabletop is an accurate representation of 40k lore
I'd guess full C'tan could take on all preheresy legions at once and win.
How many points is that?
Love the longer form vids
love em.
Wait a fucking second. The outsider: a super-powerful entity that exiled itself from the galaxy after tasting the flesh of its brethren.
I happen to know an entity like that. A super powerfull consciousness that resides outside the galaxy and seeks infinite power through consumption of life.
The outsider is the Tyrannid hivemind.
C'tan of Consumption? Adaptation/Evolution? Life?
Shoutout to Rogue trader for capturing a Ctan shard. Now the Imperium has their own pokemon.
The first three and a half minutes of this blew my mind. As a chaos player I knew what C'tan were lore wise but their concept in comparison is effortless and eloquent. Shout out. Hmu when u make the Lorgar Primarch breakdown lol.
Unfortunately it’s not that accurate. Them literally being their concepts is just a theory, with the only evidence being something really really bad happened when the necrons actually killed Llandu’gor
C’tan I see as “logic gods” and that’s my head cannon categorisation
10:00 Darkness Devil is still probably one of the best illustrations of an embodiment of fear I've seen in fiction over the last thirty years
I see the Void Dragon as the C'tan of entropy. When it affects you, it's like it brings you to the end of the universe, to heat death, to nothing. The Void Dragon thus wants to stimulate greater changes in entropy and does so by influencing people to build machines. Machines after all, can be much better than basic lifeforms in terms of increasing the entropy, slowly bringing about oblivion faster and faster.
I know some fans like to call Chaos “cosmic horror” but the C’Tan always felt more lovecraftian than the Chaos Gods to me. I guess not having minions literally called “daemons” will do that.
yes and no in some ways they are both cosmic horror, for different reasons. The chaos Gods are not really unknowable on a psychological level. however, they are unknowable as they don't have a physical body. The C'tan are unknowable because they are not really evil, or they are about as evil as someone stepping on an anthill (we are the ants) when they do whatever their goals are. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk on the two aspects of lovecraftian horror.
The "C'tan embody basic universal concepts" thing may just be the Aeldari retconning their own racial history (which they've done a lot). For example, the Nightbringer supposedly brought the fear of death to all sentient species (except the Krorks) through its physical form, but then... that means it's _not_ embodying death because we know that things died and had fear of death before it had a physical form (notably _the Necrontyr_ were pretty afeared of death well before the Nightbringer had a physical form), and also it's _not_ universal (see also: Krorks and now Orks), and also the fact that it explicitly did that as _an action_ means that is something it intentionally inflicted psychomantically rather than something it truly is by nature. Death also isn't a physical law or principle, it means different things to different beings and it's entirely conceptual rather than an objective fact of reality (which is why so many Chaos entities love death).
It's actually pretty possible that everything we know about the C'tan is just entirely screwed up by Aeldari myth-making actually altering the C'tan themselves via warpy shenanigans (which is why it can be hard to discern what _the Deceiver_ did vs what _Cegorach_ did, for example, and also why the C'tan apparently slowly went insane during the Aeldari god/C'tan War in Heaven, and why the Cosmic Serpent Dromlach is maybe a machine?).
Near as I have been able to figure:
1. C'tan are just the first life forms to exist in the universe, they were originally beings of pure physical energy that existed in some kind of subdimension of reality that could interact with stars and whose perception was closer to baseline reality unhindered by warpy influences that could confuse and befuddle them down incorrect directions so technology at our scales is essentially intuitive to them because that's like simple 1000 piece puzzle stuff for them,
2. They just really like to pick a theme to rule over and it doesn't mean anything about them existentially other than they have personalities and don't think material beings can be their equals, and...
3. You absolutely could kill them if you wanted but they'll do bad things to you, your family, your friends, your neighbours, your pets, your house, your car, your garden, your sleep quality, your job, your government, your tax filings, your relationship with your alternate timeline selves, and your bank account in the moment before you pull it off.
They're "gods" only in that they're better than you, and even that isn't necessarily true as demonstrated by Orikan the Diviner.
Speaking of the void dragon, Warframe does void horror pretty well (granted it takes 130 hours to reach it), similarly to SCP-3930.
The void's paradox is that it doesn't exist, but it presents a blank slate of reality that your perceptions can impress upon. For better and worse. It's a mirror of sorts to your own expectations.
And on Death and Oblivion being separate C'Tan- I think it's becasuse there's concept of death as one where someone still remembers you and you go somewhere (aka afterlife) and there's oblivion, where you just stop existing, noone recalls your name and you go basically NOWHERE.
I love the longer video format. Btw you convinced me to read the Lords of Silence, it was amazing! Thank you!
Everytime the C'tan is mentioned in a Mechanicus books, the stakes to me are always high, and theres a nice bit of world building and sense of creepiness. Like you mentioned with Zarhulash the Potentate. That was unnerving to see one just awakened from the Pharos device.
I personally like the longer videos cause I usually use them for while I am working or while im playing OSRS.
I always assumed that the 40k gods worked a bit like DnD. There you have gods of the outer planes, the realm of souls that people go to when they die. They can interact with the physical world through manifestation, but mostly through having a connection to a follower and acting through that follower. This is the same as what the warp gods do in 40k.
The C'tan on the other hand are the opposite. Instead of being from the outer planes they draw their powers from the inner planes. The planes of the elements, but also the planes where everything originates. Thus they are more like elemental princes in DnD. They dont need worship but are also not quite as powerful as a real god. They also have an easier time manifesting in the real world.
The necrons in turn are essentially undead. In DnD terms it means that they are powered by energies from the Negative Material Plane. The plane of endings. This energy is antithetical to life, but can create more of itself by destroying life.
I had no idea the C’Tan were like this rather than just plain culminations of something
Never knew the void dragon was about oblivion, I thought he was just machine boy
I honestly had no idea that the C'tan represented specific concepts from the universe.
The original description was a formless gaseous being of vast but distributed soul like intelligence, feeding on stars.
so I basically imagined whales made of clouds, mere creatures (albeit powerful ones) inhabiting the world instead of directly representing it.
"That tracks", "perception is reality" yea i know what your day job is lol
(Everywhere at the end of time is quite a fitting music for Necrons)
Arthur's inevitable transformation into a 3 hour lore channel begins.
"Oh, you only brought a small tank to a knife fight" ahahahhaha , words to remember
Nightbringer haunts Ventris up to Swords of Calth. He meets another shard of Nightbringer. The first wasn't sealed away, it's in a star gaining power and fycking with Ventris. The other was maybe defeated by a titan. It vanished, most likely just buggered off.
For those with no idea what a Psychopomp is; it's the typical guider of souls/spirits to the afterlife
"Machines have no spirit"
>angry machine spirit noises
Not sure that C'Tan are appropriate for the Tabletop. But if there is precedent for GW creating models just for the sake of creating models (ie: they're for painting and showing off, NOT for putting onto a hex and rolling dice for) then by all means create models for it. Hell, I might even suggest making a kit where I could buy it, you could buy it, the Battlemace40k Hentai artist could buy it, the Tinfoil Hat guy could buy it, the Pineapple on Pizza loving Chaplain could buy it, the Unspeakable one could buy it, the other Unspeakable one could buy it, and when we all showed our models pre-painting... no one could tell they all came from the same kit.
I really like the C'tan. First, they are freaking star assholes gods, that are literally gods in the battlefield, and this so cool. Second, they are the few things that 40k create, and don't steal from Fantasy. We all know that the necrons are the tomb kings, and the C'tan would be like de Nehekhara Gods, but the C'tan, different of the gods in fantasy, actual appears, interact and move the set. Just really good creations for this incredible universe. And the necrons are my favorite faction, and I love they slavery their gods and summon them to fight for them, amazing.
Loved the long form video idea so much. However, I believe there is room for both short and long videos to exist.
Just make whatever strikes you, man. I'll watch it all the same.
I wouldn't mind seeing the outsider or the endless swarm come back. The endless swarm was one of the first c'tan I learned about when investigating the necrons.
I loved the video, not enough info on “space gods”. Keep up the amazing work. Found your page from AA and you’re hilarious rant/comedic banter on Magnus. Your diatribes on what you don’t like are priceless. Keep up the amazing work.
Big fan of longer content for background audio while painting
There's at least 1 more! In the Mechanicus game, there's a C'tan shard secret boss.
I like this format of video, and it's a really interesting, less-talked about subject. Great video! :D
I love the longer videos
Were the clouds always evil, or were they corrupted by the necrontyr when they were imprisoned inside the giant animatronic bodies? Its truely the philosophical question of the 41st millennium.
Your flayer theory makes the most sense out of all the other ones I’ve seen
I think Mephet'ran is a pretty cool guy. Eh tricks the Outsider into being a team killing psycho and doesn't afraid of anything.
The Void Dragon’s real name is The Eater of Knowledge.
The similarities between the Nightbringer and Void Dragon names is a result of figurative vs literal language. The Nightbringer is given a euphemism for death (which makes sense because every word we have ever used for death was at one point a euphemism), while the Void Dragon is given a literal name describing exactly what it is.
Bruh straight up I got to the part about trying new formats, you said "a lot of you have been kind of saying that you tend to vibe out to my video and just listen to me talking" and I froze because I realized that THIS is the channel I always go to when I'm washing dishes... And I was washing dishes 😂 the way you present and verbalize is easy to follow, and you speak with a voice that is both easy to understand and audible without needing to shout from my speakers to be heard over the running water. Like seriously, when I first started listening to the channel I thought the way you talked would end up annoying me, but frankly I absolutely vibe out and listen to your stuff. The way you talk didn't end up annoying me but is actually rather relaxing. I've literally put on your Space Marine gameplay vids as background noise/motivation while I build models. For some reason I can actually fully absorb everything you say without having to pay direct attention to the vid.
I guess since I'm already here: you seem really chill, I feel like it'd be great to share a bowl/drink with you and just talk about shit. Love the channel, don't stop. Long or short format, you've got a loyal fan right here my man 👍
Absolutely love the longer video format. Loved the iceberg videos specially because of their lenght and content. This is a w in my book
Ngl your videos are perfect background noise to paint minis, already like you content but this is really nice
I'm loving the longer content with this. If you ever get to to a point where you do 30 minute to an hour plus long videos, I'd absolutely be all for it.
love your liminal music choices, i have a lot of these on a spotify playlist.
Well obviously they're a board game for four people where you colonise the continent of Catan
Pretty sure GW had a legal battle a few years back that if they dont have a model of something, other companies can make a model and sell that.
So rest assured, they're all getting models eventually.
I think the Void Dragon is basically the embodiment of nihilism. I must confess I am an on-again-off-again follower of that C'tan
Something i find terrifying about the outsider is that the Tyranids avoided it. Like i dont buy into the theory there working together i like to imagine that the hive saw it as something so dangerous its impossible to interact with
The c'tan do not have specific spheres of influence. Each one has the same ability set as any other, their spheres represent their interest and personal preference rather than any restriction to their power. Their individuality is a result of their first interactions with the necrontyr where they took on the mantles of ancient semi forgotten necrontyr gods.
Also, Uriel didn't seal the Nightbringer. He blackmailed it with the destruction of its ship, and forced it to flee with the threat of being buried alive, something that its depleted energy reserves meant could potentially destroy it.
Having a piece of Everywhere at The End of Time playing in the background is niiice
To be honest love hearing your voice and enjoy these types of videos gives me something interesting to think about for a while or just knowledge to have in my head while I play video games. I say keep it up if you want to but if it doesn't work out I hope you say fuck it and keep doing what you enjoy!
Came here for warhammer lore, came out with an existential crisis….. thank you mr boney man
the machines have no spirit? go ahead say it again.... flesh being
I never had your channel in my recommendation feed until you did this longer video, so i implore you to do more
Cant wait for the chaos god of love and feathers to be born
please for the love of god keep making longform content
Skaven yet?
I concur
Love the longer format. Keep it up!
Fun fact:
The night bringer was so vicious and violent that he engraved the concept of a hooded figure with a scythe as being the embodiment of death throughout all future cultures.
I like the longer video format, (guilty pleasure) I use most youtube videos as background noise while I'm gaming so more Mr Bones straight to the brain cannot hurt
You're absolutely right, love just chillin to your commentary dude 👍
The 40K universe would not have been such a shit show if the God Frogs just would have given the Necrontyr their chemo.
I've actually Loved the C'tan. And Really like your Longer Vids! I listen to them at work and being able to just start a vid and listen until break is nice
Love the longer video format!
Fun fact: the C'tan on the Silent King's mini is named the burning one
You are the only youtuber who did a nice job explaining the c'tan
Really enjoyed your video, particularly you pondering the more obscure aspects - if more such longer vids are following I'm all here for it! ⚜️💀⚙️
i am quiet pleased that you are going to do longer form content. its lovely
C'tan...the only things in 40k that are hungerier than the nids.
Thank you for this video. I'm a huuuuge fan of the Necron and anything that is Undead/Necromancy. I think the Void Dragon is terrifying because we as humans generally don't have a concept of oblivion or infinity. We can try to create equations or argue constantly about these ideas but the very fact that we can talk ad nauseam about what we think is oblivion means we're still trying to quantify it in ways that make sense. Oblivion and infinity don't make sense and that's the beauty/horror of it.
Personally, I love the Deceiver. It exists as our the very idea of lies, trickery, deception, and falsehoods... Things we normally find bad, unsavory, or negative... And yet we constantly fall for characters like MCU Loki, Lucifer, Hisoka, and the Joker, who are all deceivers and tricksters to some level. We love an antihero, we adore the protagonist with questionable morals. Therein rests the power of this C'tan: To convince you that you should root for them and give them a chance.
now I need to see an army dedicated to the god of feathers and love
I prefer calling the c'tan (s'tan) because it makes them a Jojo reference! "Are you an enemy S'tan user?"
S'tan: Void dragon, god of oblivion.
Abilities: engineering
User: Trazyn
When Tech Priests talk about the Machine God are they talking about the Ctan Void Dragon shard on Mars or are they talking about something else?
I would love to see one of these for KO and S2D
First video of yours I've watched and guess I'm here now. Using the Caretaker music is perfect for setting the tone
6:06 in short they are way different, the void dragon is nothing, no light, no darkness, no soul, legit nothing, you don't exist anymore.
Night bringer is death, the end of your life, but your soul still exists and enters the warp.
So the night bringer is better? no for simple fact THE WARP EXISTS!!! Your soul could be raped, eaten, shit out, beaten, corrupted, murdered, forever. The Void dragon gives you an out, that out is just not existing anymore, ending your suffering.
Ha... "Break down the c'tan" nice
Perfect length video. I like 20-30 a lot for 40k lore
Thank you Mr, Bones. You are a warm living and comfy couch to our warhammer lore.
love the longer form! nothing else to say just wanted to express support for the format
“Future fantasy” is more properly known as Space Opera.
Personal use
1:55 the intro
3:17 the connection between C’Tan and reality itself
3:44 the C’Tan shards
5:01 ASCENDANT C’TAN ie a huge pain in the butt
7:06 The Nightbringer (Edgy Grim Reaper boy)
9:10 Yes he did
10:21 The Deceiver (C’Tan Tzeetch level dickery)
13:11 The Void Dragon (FEED ME SEMOUR)
16:47 Every other shard (really?)
17:17 The Outsider (Dude let me in I’m a fairy)
19:16 The Flayer (that one guy who likes leather waaaay too much)
19:55 Metaphysical explanation for reality and the C’Tan’s direct tie to it
20:41 The Potentate (overblown egotistical living light bulb)
21:29 The Burning One (Tollbooth Willie)
22:24 The World Shaper (A very angry engine block)
24:14 The Endless Swarm, The Arisen, The Spiral Flame (why these all so edgy?)
24:49 Conclusion
Do you think the C’tan could ball?
4v4 pickup basketball game between the 4 chaos gods and 4 C'tan of your choice, who wins and why?
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Deceiver dunks on all of then
@@LordCrate-du8zm khorne is NOT ready for the deceiver's jukes
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle khorne is Shaq-shattering the board every basket
I'm trying to remember where I read it, but didn't Khaine fight the Nightbringer one time (later being retconed to a strong shard I think) shattering and disapating him for a time? However fragments of the Nightbringer were absorbed into Khaine's being, which is a contributor into his actions in the other Eldar war in heaven (by making him "slightly" more of a dick). It's also where the Dark Reaper aspect comes from. Being a Khaine aspect of war ever so slightly flavoured by that event.
The outsider made the Tyranids!!! I like that theory it’s canon you have no power puzzle master!!
"its like bringing a small tank to a knife fight" was fu**ing hilarious!
Poor Dad of Oltyx. He was there when the flayer died. He never was the same dad again. Poor oltyx too.
I think his name was Unas