*DISCLAIMER* Since participating in the P2P (decentralized) aspect utilizes YOUR internet connection be aware of the risks. Deeper does offer an option for disabling this feature in its OS if you prefer to just use the device's VPN functionality. More info here - shop.deeper.network/
On an interview, CMO stated that the OS of the devices is going to be open-source, at a later stage. Anyone with coding skills will be able to inspect what his/her device is actually doing and how it works. That is some good news to hear.👌 Anyone who wants to do illegal activities must be stupid to do it through a device that logs every connection and can be shared at any moment with everyone, authorities and online
Open source means that any programmer in the world can see what the code inside this product is doing, and even edit it following the platform rules. My first concern was connecting this device to my computer and my network, bcs I dont know what is this device doing behind the scenes, knowing that in the future I will be able to "control" the software, makes me want it.
@@TacianoB right thank you for the reply! When Christos ( the comment in question) says that activities are logged in for everyone to see, that means we have no privacy… is that what it means?
This company could theoretically get a lot more of your personal data than a software VPN with this device that is de/encrypting data and inserting advertisements. I would like to have heard more about their privacy policy to be honest.
Deeper doesn't keep any of the information as it's peer-to-peer encrypted. You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything.
@@yafreakinway7375 There are controls in place to help prevent others from using your device for certain activities such as torrent blocking, adult content blocking, and blacklisting features. There are logs to disprove any wrongdoing of the owner of the hotspot if the need arises. Blacklisting will be able to block websites as well. There are some websites existing on blacklist by default, and you can simply fill in the domains on a txt file and upload it to the black list page to block additional ones any time. so explain that then. straight from their website.
Actually, each device is its own server. All your private data remains secure on your device. Our upcoming Web3 decentralized advertising will allow users to post their own ads and earn crypto if they decide to watch and interact with these ads. It's all part of the web3 ecosystem that's currently being developed by Deeper Network.
Hard Questions: 1. Am I as the the host up now liable for what other people are using my network for? (Could be seen as an accessory in some cases) 2. I can’t imagine internet providers have not already added clauses that would make this sorta use a breach of contract. 3. What are the security implications that are associated with opening up my network or using others ? Could I get the network host collect data from those who are using their network ?
To be clear I love the concept , reminds me of a Lora network device concept, but I think there are other big items that need to be made before this is a practical use .
You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. Deeper's constantly adding to a global blacklist so that people won't be able to use your network for anything bad. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything. Since it's point-to-point encryption, when others utilize your network, they cannot see anything on your network at all.
1. Technically yes, but there are safety measures put in place to prevent this. 2. ISP has no way of determining if you're the one watching Netflix or someone in another country. 3. You will NOT be opening your network, the device only shares data outside your network. In fact it does the opposite, it creates more security by filtering out malicious attacks. WIN-WIN Let me know if you have any more questions.
@@yafreakinway7375 After writing all that down, could you see all this as way too much trouble and risk to go through for the target audience of this device? Especially since the usefulness of VPNs for said target audience has pretty much dwindled to be of no use at all?
@@yafreakinway7375 Due to the mass of illegal sites on the Internet for the use of which one could be prosecuted, of course depending on what one does there, it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep this blacklist up to date. The only solution would be a whitelist.
Helium = decentralized mobile network Deeper Network = decentralized vpn ScPrime = decentralized storage I think all three are projects worth keeping an eye on
Lol I have a helium miner and its made me some money but I keep it running for the purpose of the project even if it still isn't making me that much anymore
Decentralized anonymous network? It already exists, Tor, why would we need Deeper Network when tor already exists? There is no better alternative to the onion router out there
@@mayankvats926 "VPNs emphasize privacy, and Tor emphasizes anonymity. While there’s some overlap between these two concepts, think of it this way: anonymity hides who you are, and privacy hides what you do. A VPN encrypts your connection and routes it through an intermediary server in another location of the user’s choosing. This server is operated by the VPN provider. Tor encrypts your internet connection and routes it through a random sequence of servers run by volunteers."
@@irweezyy That and tor is made for use as apart of their browser, sure the VPN can be used alone but its not accessible by your average joe. You can hook up Deeper to your entire system/network and never have to worry about it again.
If the hardware and software of this device are proprietory and the code/hardware cannot be audited externally this can NEVER be trusted as a SECURE device.
@@CulturedThugPoster Deeper Network's Deeper Chain is on GitHub and accessible to the public. The only reason AtomOS dashboard is not public yet is because as a startup, allowing the code to be public would put our company know-how and future at jeopardy. However, we do have plans to make the code public once we've reach a key number of nodes. This would ensure and prove that our AtomOS can be trusted is 100% a secure device. Our vision is to fight the injust tactics the current tech conglomerates are using on everyone using their services.
How many tokens have you accumulated in the months you've used it and is there monetary value to these tokens ? If there is what is it priced at, at the moment?
@@Child0ne Actually there's no need to worry about your IP being used for nefarious activity. Users have the ability to: 1) turn-off BitTorrent sharing 2) customizable blacklist for the web filter 3) private sharing log will make sure your IP is safe from malicious activity!
@@Rew123 it's $0 subscription. The sharing economy design aspect allows the users on the network to share and use bandwidth keeping it sustainable and 1/100 the cost of traditional VPN.
As a hardware VPN and security device this could be really awesome but the DPR stuff and connected nodes kinda make it sketchy and security risk as well. You have potentially a device that is collecting data at home and sharing it with other nodes without you realising. I dun know. Maybe they should have started with baby steps.
With traditional VPN, your private info and browsing data is logged into a centralized server. With DPN, your data stays on your device which is its own server. Users have full control of their data with this device. That's why it was made in the first place.
I've been taking about the Deeper Network for months! I'm so glad to see this project reach the masses and really go mainstream. I won't stop sharing and helping people understand the pros and cons and how the Deeper Network WILL change the internet as you know it!
PRIVACY ALERT: This product, while innovative, raises plenty of questions without solid answers. If you connect to one of the nodes, it logs all traffic and because its open source, someone with a bit of technical knowledge can monitor your traffic (or all traffic connected to that node). You can also run network captures to potentially identify and monitor traffic. Deeper may have taken care about this to some extent, however, I would NEVER feel comfortable connecting to a node hosted by some random person. I would rather be happy to use centralized VPN services (with my own private encrypted DNS) who can be accountable or auditable - with Deeper, you cannot audit or verify any of the users hosting a node and that is a BIG concern for me. If I don’t want to use a centralized VPN, I will host my own VPN servers in the cloud - its really easy and cheap. These are just my thoughts, you are welcome to agree or disagree! :-) Peace \m/
@telegram onboxtherapy01 Oh wow, so exciting. Thank you for your comment, you have been selected as a sad human being that feels the way to earn a living is by scamming and stealing peoples money. Stop scamming and get a real job, and just maybe your parents will finally be proud of you...
9:06 "It has a 7 layer firewall (think he's just referencing the OSI stack - a theoretical reference implementation) and it does deep packet inspection" ...and I'm out. Deep packet inspection is not something you want, it certainly isn't a security feature. It's the kind of thing naughty ISPs or corporate networks do to create a good profile of you and your traffic. This thing should fail miserably.
@@manahapu it gives acces to all communication packets going through the device to the device company. Like most apps and all cell phones and routers you may own.
I have the mini since the whole project launched (mine is good as I was an early adopter and does earn a lot more dpr than the ones you can buy now ). Nothing but good experience with the company, Eric and the device is fast, reliable and keeps my home network safe seamlessly. The fact that it earns 60 dpr per day for me is a bonus. Love it
@@manuelandre7052 also with time, the rewards do go up to a new tier every 8-9months or so if your device stays online consistently. So I’m a few months I’ll be getting 111.52 dpr per day. 9 months later 223 dpr. After a few years it can mine 1153 dpr per day, which at todays value is $115 per day.
I have my DPR mini for almost 9 months, and I just love it. For me I wanted to remove ads for my whole family network. And it's doing a good job at it! Thx
@@DiRTYPiPE you don't have to sell me, I'd have one being shipped now if I had the money to spend. My graphics card was supposed to be my last treat for a while ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Finally a VPN and crypto project I can get behind, and with someone commenting about the OS of these devices going to be open-source, I'm very excited!
I bought a Mini to try it out. I staked 10,000 DPR on my mini, and if the price stays the same, I will have earned the cost of buying the Mini in about a year. Also check out their Discord.
If you are using a VPN to access geo-restricted content, this works better as the providers are unable to block the IP addresses as they aren't VPN server company addresses. The biggest issue with the company itself is its lack of communication with its customers. I'm still trying to get a tracking number for my last purchase from them which was supposed to have been shipped over a month ago. When I bought an older version from them shipping was delayed by several months, but they wouldn't actually tell anyone what the status was. Be forewarned, expect to have a long wait if you buy from them.
sadly this device is pretty useless. If you want to hide your IP adress you have to specefiy it for each website you use. IT DOSE NOT WORK LIKE A VPN!!!!!!!!! YOU IP WILL NOT CHANGE
This is literally a security nightmare. I can't believe there was a meeting somewhere where a bunch of people thought "Oh this is a great idea!" It quite literally turns your home IP address into an egress node for random strangers doing whatever bad shit you can imagine on the internet. This would be an excellent way to get home visits from law enforcement, and possibly get your internet access cut off. Brilliant!
I agree! With due time this type of tech could really boom, I also love the enterprise grade security for a home network. Data is too precious these days
Blockchain is still an emerging space. What Deeper Network has done so early in the game will allow the company to have first mover advantage and become mainstream.
I got my eyes on this but imma wait and see where and how some of its capabilities are going to end up. Specially i want to see if it's nodes and bandwidth sharing is going to turn out as good as hoped once lots of people use
I have had my deeper device running and contributing to the network/project for almost 6 months now. It is great, no issues. You can log into the AtomOs software and literally see all the negative things it is blocking from entering your network. There are so many positive attributes about this project. I personally do not invest in just anything, I did my due dilligence and I'm sooo glad I have invested in the great project. I highly suggest DYOR and I think you will see what I saw in it.
@@bdailey8065 It depends on the devices you buy, how good your bandwidth is, and how long you have been sharing your bandwidth. So you earn very little in the beginning. But will be able to earn around 5 dollars a day assuming you trust the current trade value. I suspect unless they change the formula for how much crypto you get for mining. Its going to lose its value over time like doge coin.
Speaking as a network engineer, this salesman guy is full of it. His mesh of vpn tunnels sits ON TOP OF the network he claims has performance issues - which means any performance issues that underlying network experiences, his will experience at least as much. And on top of that, if these nodes are acting as the egress points, there's going to be a huge reliability issue as tcp streams get truncated constantly with nodes going online and offline all the time. Networks just don't work the way this guy is describing things.
oh god now he's talking about getting paid for looking at ads, this device does nothing except make the user experience of the internet worse in every single regard and you get to pay for the privilege.
I'm not an it guy. The concept however really appeals. Is it possible for the concept to exist without those flaws? Is the salesman simply wrong about their product or is the product actually flawed as it is now? If so, could it be fixed easily or hardly? Furthermore, if I use this device as a "host", it means all end-users searches etc. go through my network. Doesn't that allow me to spy on them / get in trouble if they go to freakish sites? Personally I don't trust the concept of VPN, other than using it to watch other countries content.
This device certainly would constitute network abuse on many corporate networks, which are already sensitive to standard VPNs. I suspect many network admins will block these devices outright.
I don't understand why this can't just be done with a Pi 4 and use an existing crypto. 🤷♂️ Or is it just the fact it's out the box for simple people that like Apple devices?
it's more of a get people who don't know any better to sign on to his bot army, mine crypto for him while he sells their data to third parties while he charges them for the device to do it all for him
I am sick of watching all those gimmicky gadgets. Finally unbox bringing something innovative and specially nowadays we need our privacy. Awesome video. We hope to see this kind video more.
If you plug USBc power to USBc ethernet port on either side. It will burn that port instantly! I'm on the second one and burned the second one accidentally. Big design flaw.@@Lustrum0005
You're not completely wrong. I like how he brings out new products but I would love to see a Linus breakdown of this. I've had mine for months and I do love it.
You're absolutely right. Lou shills stuff that he thinks is cool and/or is being paid to do it. It's a good place to know about new things, but everyone should definitely wait for Linus or another no bs reviewer to give their deep insight about it. This applies even more for a device as important and potentailly harmful as this one.
I love this idea. The only reason I don't even use a VPN to begin with is a) subscription cost and b) I don't trust them (I get this funny feeling like these companies are run by the CIA and that your internet activity isn't actually private). I like the hardware idea because at least you don't have the monthly cost but there's no way to know for sure if it's truly private. But I love it. This may finally be the key to get me to start using a VPN.
When you hand pick the cream of the crop and you have the message come from the horses mouth... we value that. Thanks for recognizing and providing that Unboxed Theory. This is why I go to you before I swipe.
Yes. Centralized VPN services have single points of weakness in their servers. On top of that, all users private info and browsing data are logged and if hacked, can be get into the wrong hands and used maliciously. Decentralization is the future. It's time for change... from web2 to web3.
Great piece of technology. Owning your own VPN is amazing. My only question is there support with the software with the hardware. Without any technical support is useless.
YES and yes. The product has been out for a while and support for this network is only growing. They have just launched their dev platform so things are only going to get bigger and better from here.
I personally own a Deeper Device, it is great. I don't get annoying adds popping up everywhere all the time. You can log into their software AtomOs and look at everything the Device keeps your network protected from, wow. Paying once for the device and having the added bonus of making DPR on top of it, it's a no brainer. Take a look at their site and educate yourself about this project.
the reason netflix and other companies aren't cracking down on hardware VPNs is because they're less common so it makes less sense to invest money playing cat and mouse when so few people use it. As soon as they become more common, they will be in the same boat as VPNs
Or the existing users buy more devices, then in turn, fund them to tier 8 (basic), then pass the devices out, and share a portion of the miner rewards. Its very profitable, downside is all the private key storage with the ethereum wallets (staking), deeper wallets (mining), while using monero wallets for payments. In short more devices, more keys. Also the gas fees can be mitigated by first transferring the deeper to a main wallet on chain, then transferring to another blockchain (network). I run a decentralized vpn service.
So you can connect to this, download stuff illegally, get caught, and whoever had the device you're connected to will get in trouble for it? Why would you EVER let anyone access to your network knowing they can do what they want and you'll take the blame for them? This is incredibly sketchy.
this is exactly waht i thought, like u connect so someones vpn, u do smt dodgy, they trace it back to the random innocent persons "node"... and then imagine if ur that innocent person... like i REALLY want one... but this is my biggest concern
Maybe it jumps around ... So it wouldn't be that straightforward ... I doubt someone would just link to one other device, and stay on there for their entire connection.
@@wayando you do in a vpn... if ur connection is constantly hopping around then u would keep dropping connection as tries to reconnect and now all ur dodgy activity gets spread out over more than one innocent person
VPNs are not centralized or decentralized. People are mashing up concepts very ignorantly. ExpressVPN uses VPN but is not what VPN (virtual private network) is. *sigh*
They pay you with Their coin? How much is that worth? Can you get paid in a different currency. Almost sounds like they're just double dipping. If not a potential pump dump. Yes I'm very skeptical.
It mines HNT (helium) LoRA network with also 5g coming soon. HNT is about 28$ per HNT. i have 3 miners and i get about 5-15$ a dau it always depends on your location and how many miners are near you.
Like all crypto, you will be able to cash out your payments at exchanges like KuCoin. The "Sharing Bandwidth" part is only for if you want to mine and be paid for your shared data. It's optional.
@@AssasinSpike 2 bobcat miners and a Freedomfi(possible 5G later on) miner. they dont earn much but its passive. uses about 0.50 a month in electricity and maybe 40-50gb if data on my network. i have monitored my network for several months and no fishy data has been going through it. I own them they are not rented.
The fact when the CMO mentions users will get rewarded for watching ads inside their network, reminded me of the Black Mirror episode. Fascinating yet scary ;)
@@bobsfriend360 how will you get hacked? Over 50,000 node are online and no one has gotten hack, project is 💯 legit check it out.speak with the cmo for more information and understanding
@@elizmelisia7261 how would you know if someone of those 50K people got hacked. It's not like their is a central reporting agency for this and maybe they dont want to let people know they got hacked because they are doing something illegal.
No, you are going to be tuneling through an encrypted pipeline. Similar to how TOR works. You cant just read the data being transmitted because it's encrypted. You are just a hop
@@regulator5 not true, Tor hosts also hold the encryption key for their hop. Therefore anything going through your node is easy as hell to read. The FBI was proven to hold over 70% of Tor nodes and that's how they find people buying and selling on black market websites.
@@abepeterson I was a little hesitant to compare it to TOR but I figured it was the best comparison. I wasn't aware of that but it's good to know, Thanks. Edit: each hop only has the decryption key for their layer of the onion though, right? Only the exit node would be able to read the decrypted packet... Right?
I have been posting videos on Deeper Connect Mini from past 6 months. Have helped to onboard a lot of people into deeper community and have made videos on secure setup, profitability and more. Thank you for such an amazing project Eric Ma and thank you for being transparent and helpful all the time!! Great device and project all in all
This has potential. Only downside is that it doesn't anonymize the VPN connection like current VPN services. Internet activity can be logged by a home ISP while using this deVPN. THIS NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
It's amazing how marketing something as "decentralized" in tech communities like this has melted people's brains. I hope people learn that Web 3.0 and blockchain tech are not automatically better ways of organizing society and are much more destructive than current systems, even though current systems are pretty bad. Banks are bad, but blockchain and crypto is worse and controlled by the same VCs and bankers on Wall Street that tanked our economy in the past.
@@Rego-xn7kn it’s the furthering of capitalism’s need to increase authoritarian control in the face of collapse. Also it undergirds the fever dreams of already inhuman billionaires to live like cyborg feudal lords over the ever growing lower classes.
@@rorylynch1203 Capitalism and authoritarian control through the promotion and focus on self ownership and peer to peer systems mitigating middle man intervention?
@@Rego-xn7kn what self ownership? What cutting of the middle man? 3.0 as conceived for implementation is an interconnected web of control and payment systems. Restrict what you can buy and see. What’s in your oven and fridge. What has your c&c machine been making? You don’t own that movie or game when for all intents and purposes you rent it. DRM in printer paper. On an on and on. Also like traditional wealth crypto also is primarily in the hands of the very few. These are not democratizing tools, they are in fact the infrastructure for a new feudalism.
@@rorylynch1203 I’m unsure of what you are referring to, but through decentralized systems and a transparent ledger (and sometimes no ledger I.e. monero) utilizing independently operated nodes. I get what you’re saying but I think our definition of Web 3.0 may be different.
I love the idea. I’m super cautious about the implementation. I’m not thrilled about other people sending traffic over my network, even if it’s in a separate vlan and it’s encrypted.
There is an option to strictly use it as a VPN and not share your bandwidth. you wouldn't be contributing to the network, but would alleviate your concern.
This side of unbox therapy shows his overall tech knowledge and how critical he may be to real world use. It's great to see him try to explain it on the side during his unboxing. This shit is what I go to Linus for
Ive got the mini running for 4 months now. So far I am only running it to mine DPR and I am therefore not routing any of my own traffic through the device. Instead I fully isolated it with a firewall. I am earning 164 DPR per day, or 5000 DPR per month (500 usd).
I like the old Jessie James background music😭 Also I really need this type of thing for school since the wifi is so limited, so I can't do any important research. Websites are all blocked.
Oh boy, can't wait for my ISP to complain about all the illegal stuff coming from my address! On a more realistic note, this is prohibitively expensive. I run my own VPN server for $1 a month... $350 is laughable. It's way overpriced for the cheap hardware they put in, and most routers can be configured to use a VPN anyway. It's slower, more expensive, more complicated, than existing solutions. I hate to be "that guy" but c'mon.
I have the Mini just for the Vpn and don't mine DPR as the stake ROI required is not worth and better invested elsewhere. However I use it everyday and leave it active for the network users to benefit.
This seems highly unsafe and unethical. So you can connect to someone else's node and illegally download stuff on it, then they get in trouble for it? Why would anyone want that?
You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything.
@@yafreakinway7375 Yeah that requires you to know the sites to blacklist in the first place. And downloading logs to prove anything is already too far, I'd rather not have to prove anything in the first place by not going to court. What a weak argument.
I went to their website. Their support is AI. I just spent 20 minutes asking their AI support a simple question. It kept listing irrelevant articles and asking me to rephrase. Forget it
Please keep in mind that others will use your IP to go on the internet, and you dont know what others to on the internet. So im very curious to see what a court will say when you say: "but it wasnt me", when the judge asks you while someone else downloads illegal content using your IP. So i'll wait for the first court case before moving to DVPN. Which i would just host on a pi btw.
Dude, any information coming and going through your modem is going to be encrypted in a way that it's impossible to decrypt for anyone. That's a must for this device.
Deeper is a great project that will be around for a long, long time. I've made some videos on it that show how to do more of the advanced stuff in regards to the Cryptocurrency side of their products. This is a great video showing off the features of the Pico.
I felt like lou was trying to hint at the guy to move his mic back ever so slightly.... (I know I'm wrong they would likely just say) but it felt that way
Maybe I get this wrong but in my understanding you connect to a VPN Server so that if someone tries to find you, they just end up on the VPN Server. So if I use a Hardware VPN, basically a server for me and me only, wouldn't it be possible to find me? I get that others can connect to your divide but if I don't want that, don't wanna be part of this ecosystem, just use it as a VPN for myself, isn't it less secure, then a traditional VPN?
If you’re connected to a node, they’ll find that node. Which might be an issue for you if somebody connects to your node and uses it to access illegal content.
This whole thing is a big security joke. I started laughing uncontrollably as I can't believe people are so stupid to support this... Maybe it's time for me to quit IT people are becoming to silly for me. Hope everyone enjoys all the spam email going through their public IP.
As a security expert in training i find it hard to trust products when they dont disclose security features in an industry standard way. As far as im concerned a '7 layer firewall' means nothing without reference to what type of firewall it is and where it operates on the network stack. It honestly seems like they are confusing a 7 layer firewall to a layer 7 firewall, which is a big fuck up in terms of false advertising.
So basically its less reliable VPN because its peer to peer and no one want to log in to a VPN in China vs the USA. And its more of a hassle since its a hardware device you have to carry around and plug in rather than a simple software.
I'd say its the opposite since you have 100x more location options across the world compared to a centralized VPN and you don't have to pay monthly fee.
Whether it's this actual company or a group of others, this sounds like a new tech bubble not seen since the beginning of the internet. Wow, crypto, networking, and the internet all in one coming to a strong head. I'm hesitant and intrigued at the same time. I'm wondering how secure the peer to peer interactions are. I need to learn more about how that may work and what possible breaches may exist or not.
Your IPs appear masked on other nodes. Yet, these masked nodes protect you in case a bad actor uses your IP for malicious acts as it can prove it wasn't your IP which carried out nefarious acts. You can also create or upload blacklists for your IP and turn off BitTorrent! Also, as for the blacklist web filter, blacklist wildcard will be added to the next firmware update which will boost the blacklist performance.
Basically a hardware version of 'The Onion Router'. Hmmm not sure I'd want to connect to that, because if someone accesses dodgy content/sites through your node/network, then you could potentially get into trouble. Not sure how it actually works to avoid this sort of scenario.
This sounds like a huuge security risk. The same device that can access all of your web traffic and that does packet inspection is also connecting to an advertising network and injecting ads. That sounds like a nightmare for potential tracking for targeted ads in the future
Syntropy also has a decentralized VPN. They are another crypto-related business that are focusing on revolutionizing the current internet infrastructure. Think of the current internet as a paper map, no traffic info, outdated road names etc... Syntropy are aiming to implement a sort of Google Maps for the internet - adding encryption, decentralization (looking at you AWS) and increasing effectiveness of packet routing. Not for everyone but for people interested in new internet infrastructure development, it's pretty interesting.
*DISCLAIMER* Since participating in the P2P (decentralized) aspect utilizes YOUR internet connection be aware of the risks. Deeper does offer an option for disabling this feature in its OS if you prefer to just use the device's VPN functionality. More info here - shop.deeper.network/
What are those risks?
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@@ErnisTheFirst Someone can do something illegal on your connection, leading to you facing legal issues.
"more info": **links the store.
Finally an old school unbox therapy video with a cool gadget instead of the gimmicks they've been showing lately.
Their recent hippie content has been a bit a annoying to be honest
@@presleymeck Define hippie and which products you classify as such.
True, and that's why their subscription got a hit recently.
@@KyleHatch21 not products but content of shows, the "hottest twitter" or the other non tech segments
Gimmicky... yea sure lol
On an interview, CMO stated that the OS of the devices is going to be open-source, at a later stage. Anyone with coding skills will be able to inspect what his/her device is actually doing and how it works. That is some good news to hear.👌 Anyone who wants to do illegal activities must be stupid to do it through a device that logs every connection and can be shared at any moment with everyone, authorities and online
Could you explain this further?
Open source means that any programmer in the world can see what the code inside this product is doing, and even edit it following the platform rules.
My first concern was connecting this device to my computer and my network, bcs I dont know what is this device doing behind the scenes, knowing that in the future I will be able to "control" the software, makes me want it.
@@TacianoB right thank you for the reply! When Christos ( the comment in question) says that activities are logged in for everyone to see, that means we have no privacy… is that what it means?
Basically is gonna be like linux @caetano
Logs need to be sent to ~/dev/null.
This company could theoretically get a lot more of your personal data than a software VPN with this device that is de/encrypting data and inserting advertisements. I would like to have heard more about their privacy policy to be honest.
Deeper doesn't keep any of the information as it's peer-to-peer encrypted. You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything.
@@yafreakinway7375 There are controls in place to help prevent others from using your device for certain activities such as torrent blocking, adult content blocking, and blacklisting features. There are logs to disprove any wrongdoing of the owner of the hotspot if the need arises. Blacklisting will be able to block websites as well. There are some websites existing on blacklist by default, and you can simply fill in the domains on a txt file and upload it to the black list page to block additional ones any time. so explain that then. straight from their website.
Actually, each device is its own server. All your private data remains secure on your device. Our upcoming Web3 decentralized advertising will allow users to post their own ads and earn crypto if they decide to watch and interact with these ads. It's all part of the web3 ecosystem that's currently being developed by Deeper Network.
Totally. Like when the feds came out with a super secure phone so that criminals would buy then and use them so they couldn't be tracked.... yikes.
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Hard Questions:
1. Am I as the the host up now liable for what other people are using my network for? (Could be seen as an accessory in some cases)
2. I can’t imagine internet providers have not already added clauses that would make this sorta use a breach of contract.
3. What are the security implications that are associated with opening up my network or using others ? Could I get the network host collect data from those who are using their network ?
To be clear I love the concept , reminds me of a Lora network device concept, but I think there are other big items that need to be made before this is a practical use .
You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. Deeper's constantly adding to a global blacklist so that people won't be able to use your network for anything bad. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything. Since it's point-to-point encryption, when others utilize your network, they cannot see anything on your network at all.
1. Technically yes, but there are safety measures put in place to prevent this.
2. ISP has no way of determining if you're the one watching Netflix or someone in another country.
3. You will NOT be opening your network, the device only shares data outside your network. In fact it does the opposite, it creates more security by filtering out malicious attacks. WIN-WIN
Let me know if you have any more questions.
@@yafreakinway7375 After writing all that down, could you see all this as way too much trouble and risk to go through for the target audience of this device? Especially since the usefulness of VPNs for said target audience has pretty much dwindled to be of no use at all?
@@yafreakinway7375 Due to the mass of illegal sites on the Internet for the use of which one could be prosecuted, of course depending on what one does there, it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep this blacklist up to date. The only solution would be a whitelist.
Helium = decentralized mobile network
Deeper Network = decentralized vpn
ScPrime = decentralized storage
I think all three are projects worth keeping an eye on
helium is epic
Lol I have a helium miner and its made me some money but I keep it running for the purpose of the project even if it still isn't making me that much anymore
Decentralized anonymous network? It already exists, Tor, why would we need Deeper Network when tor already exists? There is no better alternative to the onion router out there
@@mayankvats926 "VPNs emphasize privacy, and Tor emphasizes anonymity. While there’s some overlap between these two concepts, think of it this way: anonymity hides who you are, and privacy hides what you do.
A VPN encrypts your connection and routes it through an intermediary server in another location of the user’s choosing. This server is operated by the VPN provider.
Tor encrypts your internet connection and routes it through a random sequence of servers run by volunteers."
@@irweezyy That and tor is made for use as apart of their browser, sure the VPN can be used alone but its not accessible by your average joe. You can hook up Deeper to your entire system/network and never have to worry about it again.
Its actually innovative. I can't wait to see the future of this device
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If the hardware and software of this device are proprietory and the code/hardware cannot be audited externally this can NEVER be trusted as a SECURE device.
Glad you like it. You are invited to join us in the official communities in Telegram or Discord!
@@CulturedThugPoster Deeper Network's Deeper Chain is on GitHub and accessible to the public. The only reason AtomOS dashboard is not public yet is because as a startup, allowing the code to be public would put our company know-how and future at jeopardy. However, we do have plans to make the code public once we've reach a key number of nodes. This would ensure and prove that our AtomOS can be trusted is 100% a secure device. Our vision is to fight the injust tactics the current tech conglomerates are using on everyone using their services.
@@FlashBangggggg can you please send the telegram group link
Been using one of these bad boys for a few months now and its worked flawlessly, also its only going to become faster the more devices are online.
How many tokens have you accumulated in the months you've used it and is there monetary value to these tokens ? If there is what is it priced at, at the moment?
Same. I’ve been running mine for 6 months. Accumulated 25,000 deeper so far!
@@GeoffHardcastle what is that in $$$ ?
@@Sabz1679 whatever the current price is X my amount of DPR
@@GeoffHardcastle is dpr is the crypto right? can you buy it?
Finally. A hardware VPN. As much as I like being chained to a subscription service this option seems right up my street.
you don’t mind if I connect do you?? - Hacker
As long as we can disable the crypto stuff and they provides updates for certain ISPs denying you service upon detecting the device. I'm down
There will be a cost in the future
@@Child0ne Actually there's no need to worry about your IP being used for nefarious activity. Users have the ability to:
1) turn-off BitTorrent sharing
2) customizable blacklist for the web filter
3) private sharing log
will make sure your IP is safe from malicious activity!
@@Rew123 it's $0 subscription. The sharing economy design aspect allows the users on the network to share and use bandwidth keeping it sustainable and 1/100 the cost of traditional VPN.
As a hardware VPN and security device this could be really awesome but the DPR stuff and connected nodes kinda make it sketchy and security risk as well. You have potentially a device that is collecting data at home and sharing it with other nodes without you realising. I dun know. Maybe they should have started with baby steps.
you can turn off the sharing if you dont want to participate in that aspect
I have been with them since last august. My device has earned me roughly 10000 DPR to date. It is reliable, fast, and secure. I am very happy with it
@@WVAEPHORM so you think lmao.
With traditional VPN, your private info and browsing data is logged into a centralized server. With DPN, your data stays on your device which is its own server. Users have full control of their data with this device. That's why it was made in the first place.
strange I click privacy policy on their website and it just redirects to the homepage
I've been taking about the Deeper Network for months!
I'm so glad to see this project reach the masses and really go mainstream. I won't stop sharing and helping people understand the pros and cons and how the Deeper Network WILL change the internet as you know it!
Great! See this is what happens when you talk crypto or money. You end up with a million spam messages.
ACTION Crypto has the best Deeper videos out there! Thanks for all you do!
Action Crypto has vids with almost all the information you need you need on these Deeper devices.
You helped me have the info to get into this project like 8 months ago!
@@ramrod2136 No way, thank you for the massive support.
PRIVACY ALERT: This product, while innovative, raises plenty of questions without solid answers. If you connect to one of the nodes, it logs all traffic and because its open source, someone with a bit of technical knowledge can monitor your traffic (or all traffic connected to that node). You can also run network captures to potentially identify and monitor traffic. Deeper may have taken care about this to some extent, however, I would NEVER feel comfortable connecting to a node hosted by some random person. I would rather be happy to use centralized VPN services (with my own private encrypted DNS) who can be accountable or auditable - with Deeper, you cannot audit or verify any of the users hosting a node and that is a BIG concern for me. If I don’t want to use a centralized VPN, I will host my own VPN servers in the cloud - its really easy and cheap. These are just my thoughts, you are welcome to agree or disagree! :-) Peace \m/
I have a deeper connect mini from this company and honestly, such a great device! I can access Netflix and google from Australia and UK now lol 😂
Have you tried shopping for airline tickets and other products using IPs from different countries? You'll save a lot of money in doing so as well.
@Eric Ma, does deeper connect provide 'no logs' service for its VPN feature?
@@landarchi honestly that’s a great idea lol. Thanks for the suggestion, I will try that for sure!
@@TrifleTech the logs stay on your device only. Your device is its own server.
@telegram onboxtherapy01 Oh wow, so exciting. Thank you for your comment, you have been selected as a sad human being that feels the way to earn a living is by scamming and stealing peoples money. Stop scamming and get a real job, and just maybe your parents will finally be proud of you...
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"It has a 7 layer firewall (think he's just referencing the OSI stack - a theoretical reference implementation) and it does deep packet inspection"
...and I'm out.
Deep packet inspection is not something you want, it certainly isn't a security feature. It's the kind of thing naughty ISPs or corporate networks do to create a good profile of you and your traffic.
This thing should fail miserably.
exactly its a key hole to access the data
Sorry, for those who are not as informed (me), does this mean the device will be less secure?
@@manahapu it gives acces to all communication packets going through the device to the device company. Like most apps and all cell phones and routers you may own.
@@PedroMigBraga so what would be the best solution, and what is the 'most' secure option out there currently? Apple? Blackberry styles?
I have the mini since the whole project launched (mine is good as I was an early adopter and does earn a lot more dpr than the ones you can buy now ). Nothing but good experience with the company, Eric and the device is fast, reliable and keeps my home network safe seamlessly. The fact that it earns 60 dpr per day for me is a bonus. Love it
How much is 60 dpr?
@@brus6950 you can surely see this on coinbase
@@brus6950 so i converted it with today's rate and its around 5.55 dollars but it will surely go up after that video
@@manuelandre7052 also with time, the rewards do go up to a new tier every 8-9months or so if your device stays online consistently. So I’m a few months I’ll be getting 111.52 dpr per day. 9 months later 223 dpr. After a few years it can mine 1153 dpr per day, which at todays value is $115 per day.
@@cryptodawk thanks for the informations, i will look into it now.
I have my DPR mini for almost 9 months, and I just love it. For me I wanted to remove ads for my whole family network. And it's doing a good job at it! Thx
Could have set up a pihole for a fraction of the cost.
Change a dns server on your router and you have no advert anymore...
@@LeonBold how to do it?
@@MirSarwar set up a pihole
Yeah but can pihole bring you passive income, Web3 gateway and protect your entire network? Deeper Network can.
This sounds awesome. I've been considering buying a VPN capable modem for a while, but this has a good few advantages
Dude iv been using one for almost a year now I love it! the fucking thing pays for my internet bill.
@@DiRTYPiPE 😎 when you know you know
@@DiRTYPiPE you don't have to sell me, I'd have one being shipped now if I had the money to spend.
My graphics card was supposed to be my last treat for a while ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
@@DiRTYPiPE which one do you have
@@DiRTYPiPE How did it pay for internet bill?
I’m definitely buying this. No logging and u buy the device and no subscription.
Finally a VPN and crypto project I can get behind, and with someone commenting about the OS of these devices going to be open-source, I'm very excited!
This is a fascinating concept for a new take on VPN.
I bought a Mini to try it out. I staked 10,000 DPR on my mini, and if the price stays the same, I will have earned the cost of buying the Mini in about a year. Also check out their Discord.
I have a Genesis Silver Node running and i love the project! Thanks for covering it (Pushing 21 DPR per day)
I like the concept of Web 3.0 and owning part of the network. (passive income!!)
If you are using a VPN to access geo-restricted content, this works better as the providers are unable to block the IP addresses as they aren't VPN server company addresses. The biggest issue with the company itself is its lack of communication with its customers. I'm still trying to get a tracking number for my last purchase from them which was supposed to have been shipped over a month ago. When I bought an older version from them shipping was delayed by several months, but they wouldn't actually tell anyone what the status was. Be forewarned, expect to have a long wait if you buy from them.
Such a interesting hardware and features that come with it 🤔
I’m so lost with this
@@barkbros123 it's a new tech tech stuff :D
sadly this device is pretty useless. If you want to hide your IP adress you have to specefiy it for each website you use. IT DOSE NOT WORK LIKE A VPN!!!!!!!!! YOU IP WILL NOT CHANGE
This is literally a security nightmare. I can't believe there was a meeting somewhere where a bunch of people thought "Oh this is a great idea!" It quite literally turns your home IP address into an egress node for random strangers doing whatever bad shit you can imagine on the internet. This would be an excellent way to get home visits from law enforcement, and possibly get your internet access cut off. Brilliant!
And you have to pay for that 🤣
😂 I’m laughing at your comment.
🙏 Thanks.
Great idea...tho it might take time to mature but I bet will become one of hot techs of the near future.
I agree! With due time this type of tech could really boom, I also love the enterprise grade security for a home network. Data is too precious these days
@@jordanmorgado18 Yes! In deed.
Blockchain is still an emerging space. What Deeper Network has done so early in the game will allow the company to have first mover advantage and become mainstream.
I got my eyes on this but imma wait and see where and how some of its capabilities are going to end up.
Specially i want to see if it's nodes and bandwidth sharing is going to turn out as good as hoped once lots of people use
I have had my deeper device running and contributing to the network/project for almost 6 months now. It is great, no issues. You can log into the AtomOs software and literally see all the negative things it is blocking from entering your network. There are so many positive attributes about this project. I personally do not invest in just anything, I did my due dilligence and I'm sooo glad I have invested in the great project. I highly suggest DYOR and I think you will see what I saw in it.
@@Dan-ps8uf How much crypto can be mined with deeper device?
@@bdailey8065 It depends on the devices you buy, how good your bandwidth is, and how long you have been sharing your bandwidth.
So you earn very little in the beginning. But will be able to earn around 5 dollars a day assuming you trust the current trade value. I suspect unless they change the formula for how much crypto you get for mining. Its going to lose its value over time like doge coin.
@@nathaniels9141 Thank you so much sir! $5 a day is $150 a month. That's pretty good ROI.
Speaking as a network engineer, this salesman guy is full of it. His mesh of vpn tunnels sits ON TOP OF the network he claims has performance issues - which means any performance issues that underlying network experiences, his will experience at least as much. And on top of that, if these nodes are acting as the egress points, there's going to be a huge reliability issue as tcp streams get truncated constantly with nodes going online and offline all the time. Networks just don't work the way this guy is describing things.
oh god now he's talking about getting paid for looking at ads, this device does nothing except make the user experience of the internet worse in every single regard and you get to pay for the privilege.
@@Astarath Oh boy, wait until you get to the part where he says it's on par with "Enterprise-level security"
exactly that, I work in security IT related, and this is just... wrong presentantion. So many flaws
I'm not an it guy. The concept however really appeals. Is it possible for the concept to exist without those flaws? Is the salesman simply wrong about their product or is the product actually flawed as it is now? If so, could it be fixed easily or hardly?
Furthermore, if I use this device as a "host", it means all end-users searches etc. go through my network. Doesn't that allow me to spy on them / get in trouble if they go to freakish sites?
Personally I don't trust the concept of VPN, other than using it to watch other countries content.
You have no clue what your talking about 😂 sorry but unless you actually follow the project and do due diligence you have NO CLUE HOW IT FUNCTIONS!!!
This device certainly would constitute network abuse on many corporate networks, which are already sensitive to standard VPNs. I suspect many network admins will block these devices outright.
Maybe but maybe its hard to block
I don't understand why this can't just be done with a Pi 4 and use an existing crypto. 🤷♂️
Or is it just the fact it's out the box for simple people that like Apple devices?
it's more of a get people who don't know any better to sign on to his bot army, mine crypto for him while he sells their data to third parties while he charges them for the device to do it all for him
I am sick of watching all those gimmicky gadgets. Finally unbox bringing something innovative and specially nowadays we need our privacy. Awesome video. We hope to see this kind video more.
Set up the node last year, and DPR price 2x since then.
The adsense idea is very much like what Brave is doing and is super intriguing with how they execute this.
Did we use this device for Adsense Loading
Forever? Burned out the first time I plugged those USBc cables wrong!
Same here, I actually burned two! And I tried to be very careful....
@@Sincerit What is the wrong way to plug the USB cable? I don't want to damage mine
If you plug USBc power to USBc ethernet port on either side. It will burn that port instantly! I'm on the second one and burned the second one accidentally. Big design flaw.@@Lustrum0005
THANKS MAN.
No one said anything. YOUR COMMENT NEEDS ATTENTION.
@@Lustrum0005if you accidentally connect “power usb-c” to one of “Ethernet usb-c”, it will burn that port. These usb-c ports are really dumb.
I saw this project on Facebook.
It was amazing, so I checked it out and this video was there and I'm amazed by this product.
💯💯💯💯
sounds too good to be true, i'll wait for Linus to give it the proper once over, "reviews" on here are basically as waste of time.
You're not completely wrong. I like how he brings out new products but I would love to see a Linus breakdown of this. I've had mine for months and I do love it.
You're absolutely right. Lou shills stuff that he thinks is cool and/or is being paid to do it. It's a good place to know about new things, but everyone should definitely wait for Linus or another no bs reviewer to give their deep insight about it. This applies even more for a device as important and potentailly harmful as this one.
@Tim you can’t be tracked down with this hardware so you’ll be able to have privacy
@@ekasism I mean, I'm another 😁
I have all the Deeper devices and plenty of videos to show for it.
@@ActionCrypto Love you Action ❤️ You got me into both dpn and helium
Omg imagine the stuff you can do with this especially in acountry were vpn is IMPORTANT to even do stuff with centralised stuff
I love this idea. The only reason I don't even use a VPN to begin with is a) subscription cost and b) I don't trust them (I get this funny feeling like these companies are run by the CIA and that your internet activity isn't actually private). I like the hardware idea because at least you don't have the monthly cost but there's no way to know for sure if it's truly private. But I love it. This may finally be the key to get me to start using a VPN.
If you have any questions, Deeper has a very active Reddit and Discord that can help you out!
When you hand pick the cream of the crop and you have the message come from the horses mouth... we value that. Thanks for recognizing and providing that Unboxed Theory. This is why I go to you before I swipe.
Thank you so much. I didn't expect this at all!!!!!
Nice, a decentrilized VPN going to the future
No
Yes. Centralized VPN services have single points of weakness in their servers. On top of that, all users private info and browsing data are logged and if hacked, can be get into the wrong hands and used maliciously. Decentralization is the future. It's time for change... from web2 to web3.
Great piece of technology. Owning your own VPN is amazing. My only question is there support with the software with the hardware. Without any technical support is useless.
YES and yes. The product has been out for a while and support for this network is only growing. They have just launched their dev platform so things are only going to get bigger and better from here.
I personally own a Deeper Device, it is great. I don't get annoying adds popping up everywhere all the time. You can log into their software AtomOs and look at everything the Device keeps your network protected from, wow. Paying once for the device and having the added bonus of making DPR on top of it, it's a no brainer. Take a look at their site and educate yourself about this project.
y’all need bots 😬😬
the reason netflix and other companies aren't cracking down on hardware VPNs is because they're less common so it makes less sense to invest money playing cat and mouse when so few people use it. As soon as they become more common, they will be in the same boat as VPNs
Gonna wait for Linus and his crew to dissect this bad boy and tell us what we're in for.
whens that happening
agree. Hope he can shed some light soon.
he's too dumb to understand DPI
@@justincounsell7219 That's what Anthony is for
Definitely would like to test drive the mini in my office where security is key !
It works like a cham. I have 4 already. For an office with multiple computers maybe better to go for a mini as it has 1Gb speed.
Dope dope information I for one am educated. I always had this questions about cyber security and you just made my year with this one Big Up My King 🤴
What did he say.
Its 4 min after posting and video is longer than that 😂😂😂
@@priyanshuanubis exactly 😂😂
@@priyanshuanubis you dont need to know becuase its all facts baby
no , you are not.
get more educated before you buy this device
This is depending on people buying this product so that the peer to peer can work. They are gonna have to sell a whole lot more units than this.
Or the existing users buy more devices, then in turn, fund them to tier 8 (basic), then pass the devices out, and share a portion of the miner rewards.
Its very profitable, downside is all the private key storage with the ethereum wallets (staking), deeper wallets (mining), while using monero wallets for payments. In short more devices, more keys.
Also the gas fees can be mitigated by first transferring the deeper to a main wallet on chain, then transferring to another blockchain (network).
I run a decentralized vpn service.
So you can connect to this, download stuff illegally, get caught, and whoever had the device you're connected to will get in trouble for it? Why would you EVER let anyone access to your network knowing they can do what they want and you'll take the blame for them? This is incredibly sketchy.
There’s the rub.
this is exactly waht i thought, like u connect so someones vpn, u do smt dodgy, they trace it back to the random innocent persons "node"... and then imagine if ur that innocent person... like i REALLY want one... but this is my biggest concern
Maybe it jumps around ... So it wouldn't be that straightforward ...
I doubt someone would just link to one other device, and stay on there for their entire connection.
@@wayando you do in a vpn... if ur connection is constantly hopping around then u would keep dropping connection as tries to reconnect and now all ur dodgy activity gets spread out over more than one innocent person
@@wayando and wha tincentive would you have to keep changing ur connection?
VPNs are not centralized or decentralized. People are mashing up concepts very ignorantly. ExpressVPN uses VPN but is not what VPN (virtual private network) is. *sigh*
Interesting. Love to know this kind of non-review tech products more often~~~
"You can go ahead and take off..." Yep. Lew is Canadian.
They pay you with Their coin? How much is that worth? Can you get paid in a different currency. Almost sounds like they're just double dipping. If not a potential pump dump. Yes I'm very skeptical.
It mines HNT (helium) LoRA network with also 5g coming soon. HNT is about 28$ per HNT. i have 3 miners and i get about 5-15$ a dau it always depends on your location and how many miners are near you.
Like all crypto, you will be able to cash out your payments at exchanges like KuCoin. The "Sharing Bandwidth" part is only for if you want to mine and be paid for your shared data. It's optional.
@Jamesx9822 thanks for the reply my guy. Actually impressed with the coins value
@Jamesx9822 3 miners? Theirs or your own? I tried mining in the past but failed miserably
@@AssasinSpike 2 bobcat miners and a Freedomfi(possible 5G later on) miner. they dont earn much but its passive. uses about 0.50 a month in electricity and maybe 40-50gb if data on my network. i have monitored my network for several months and no fishy data has been going through it. I own them they are not rented.
The fact when the CMO mentions users will get rewarded for watching ads inside their network, reminded me of the Black Mirror episode. Fascinating yet scary ;)
Been waiting for a hardware vpn, I’ll keep an eye on this
It's good! speaking from experience.
Until it gets hacked and your fucked. Have fun lol
@@bobsfriend360 how will you get hacked? Over 50,000 node are online and no one has gotten hack, project is 💯 legit check it out.speak with the cmo for more information and understanding
@@elizmelisia7261 how would you know if someone of those 50K people got hacked. It's not like their is a central reporting agency for this and maybe they dont want to let people know they got hacked because they are doing something illegal.
This is essentially TOR with less privacy/security and more crypto. Also it sounds like they can inject ads into your connection.
Im curious about the security flaws if someone hardware engineered a hack for it to crack your network since you’re sharing your own bandwidth
No, you are going to be tuneling through an encrypted pipeline. Similar to how TOR works. You cant just read the data being transmitted because it's encrypted. You are just a hop
@@regulator5 not true, Tor hosts also hold the encryption key for their hop. Therefore anything going through your node is easy as hell to read. The FBI was proven to hold over 70% of Tor nodes and that's how they find people buying and selling on black market websites.
@@abepeterson I was a little hesitant to compare it to TOR but I figured it was the best comparison. I wasn't aware of that but it's good to know, Thanks.
Edit: each hop only has the decryption key for their layer of the onion though, right? Only the exit node would be able to read the decrypted packet... Right?
@@regulator5 do think TOR has not been compromised ?
@@seanfaherty everything has vulnerabilities
One of the best items I’ve ever seen on the market, by far. Decentralization is KEY
That's a fact!
I have been posting videos on Deeper Connect Mini from past 6 months. Have helped to onboard a lot of people into deeper community and have made videos on secure setup, profitability and more. Thank you for such an amazing project Eric Ma and thank you for being transparent and helpful all the time!! Great device and project all in all
Go checkout some of my videos to get a better idea about this device
You were the reason I got into this project back in September. Thanks a ton 🙌
Thanks for the great content bud!
How much do we earn?
@@mantejwalia8660 glad I was helpful!
This has potential. Only downside is that it doesn't anonymize the VPN connection like current VPN services. Internet activity can be logged by a home ISP while using this deVPN. THIS NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
It's amazing how marketing something as "decentralized" in tech communities like this has melted people's brains. I hope people learn that Web 3.0 and blockchain tech are not automatically better ways of organizing society and are much more destructive than current systems, even though current systems are pretty bad. Banks are bad, but blockchain and crypto is worse and controlled by the same VCs and bankers on Wall Street that tanked our economy in the past.
How is web 3 / decentralization more destructive?
@@Rego-xn7kn it’s the furthering of capitalism’s need to increase authoritarian control in the face of collapse. Also it undergirds the fever dreams of already inhuman billionaires to live like cyborg feudal lords over the ever growing lower classes.
@@rorylynch1203 Capitalism and authoritarian control through the promotion and focus on self ownership and peer to peer systems mitigating middle man intervention?
@@Rego-xn7kn what self ownership? What cutting of the middle man? 3.0 as conceived for implementation is an interconnected web of control and payment systems. Restrict what you can buy and see. What’s in your oven and fridge. What has your c&c machine been making? You don’t own that movie or game when for all intents and purposes you rent it. DRM in printer paper. On an on and on. Also like traditional wealth crypto also is primarily in the hands of the very few. These are not democratizing tools, they are in fact the infrastructure for a new feudalism.
@@rorylynch1203 I’m unsure of what you are referring to, but through decentralized systems and a transparent ledger (and sometimes no ledger I.e. monero) utilizing independently operated nodes. I get what you’re saying but I think our definition of Web 3.0 may be different.
False sense of security is the best description for this device.
China is already able to detect and block this thing.
Omg great tech dude congratulations to team DPN
And you won't even know where that traffic routed in the future.
You won^^^👆👆👆
This is revolutionary 👀
Okay, just for starters, great disclaimer. Well put, Will. And secondly, thanks for discussing this product.
I love the idea. I’m super cautious about the implementation. I’m not thrilled about other people sending traffic over my network, even if it’s in a separate vlan and it’s encrypted.
The intended use is for it to sit in between your internet connection and your firewall/router. So all of your VLANS aren't seen by it at all.
There is an option to strictly use it as a VPN and not share your bandwidth. you wouldn't be contributing to the network, but would alleviate your concern.
This side of unbox therapy shows his overall tech knowledge and how critical he may be to real world use. It's great to see him try to explain it on the side during his unboxing. This shit is what I go to Linus for
oh hell no bro, i wont send my internet traffic through a HW made in china - developed in china
😂😂😂 ... It's a good opportunity for counterintelligence though ... Use it for specific things.
99% of things are made in China. Good luck.
They are actually headquartered in Silicon Valley
Ive got the mini running for 4 months now. So far I am only running it to mine DPR and I am therefore not routing any of my own traffic through the device. Instead I fully isolated it with a firewall. I am earning 164 DPR per day, or 5000 DPR per month (500 usd).
500 month extra just for having this thing plugged in? How much was early adoption investment
@@gfdia35 The catch is to get this highest reward level you need to stake 100,000 DPR in a smart contract for min. a year.
The vibe of these recent videos really feels like Unbox Therapy has been influenced by the KeepTheTime channel 🙂
I like the old Jessie James background music😭
Also I really need this type of thing for school since the wifi is so limited, so I can't do any important research. Websites are all blocked.
Oh boy, can't wait for my ISP to complain about all the illegal stuff coming from my address!
On a more realistic note, this is prohibitively expensive. I run my own VPN server for $1 a month... $350 is laughable. It's way overpriced for the cheap hardware they put in, and most routers can be configured to use a VPN anyway.
It's slower, more expensive, more complicated, than existing solutions. I hate to be "that guy" but c'mon.
This has been one of my favorite devices!! I am glad that you did a video on deeper network
Thank you for your support of Deeper Network and testimonial!
Sick! Gonna look it up right now!!
I have the Mini just for the Vpn and don't mine DPR as the stake ROI required is not worth and better invested elsewhere. However I use it everyday and leave it active for the network users to benefit.
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This seems highly unsafe and unethical. So you can connect to someone else's node and illegally download stuff on it, then they get in trouble for it? Why would anyone want that?
You have the option to blacklist as many sites as you want and also can disable features like torrenting while people are connected to your network. You can also download the logs on your device if you want to prove anything.
@@yafreakinway7375 Yeah that requires you to know the sites to blacklist in the first place. And downloading logs to prove anything is already too far, I'd rather not have to prove anything in the first place by not going to court. What a weak argument.
@@TheSonicFan4 also, if you don't want to 'prove anything', with a flick of a switch you can turn off that whole sharing bandwidth piece :)
I went to their website. Their support is AI. I just spent 20 minutes asking their AI support a simple question. It kept listing irrelevant articles and asking me to rephrase. Forget it
Please keep in mind that others will use your IP to go on the internet, and you dont know what others to on the internet. So im very curious to see what a court will say when you say: "but it wasnt me", when the judge asks you while someone else downloads illegal content using your IP. So i'll wait for the first court case before moving to DVPN. Which i would just host on a pi btw.
You have a log that you control!
@@jlmaster1 well that's your proof, which you can manipulate, vs the isp data, good luck with that.
If these became more common, that could be a valid defense ...
@@wayando that's why i'll wait a bit. ;)
Dude, any information coming and going through your modem is going to be encrypted in a way that it's impossible to decrypt for anyone. That's a must for this device.
I wouldn't want something so small sitting between my modem and router. That is precious pipe.
Get the mini if you want something more bulky :)
Background music is so annoying.
The disclaimer made me want to watch it even more
Deeper is a great project that will be around for a long, long time. I've made some videos on it that show how to do more of the advanced stuff in regards to the Cryptocurrency side of their products. This is a great video showing off the features of the Pico.
@@AtheistsClaw I'd love to hear your opinion on this
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They are going to sell a sh*tload of those things
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They've already sold a ton before the video and the network has been growing nicely for over a year now!
I felt like lou was trying to hint at the guy to move his mic back ever so slightly.... (I know I'm wrong they would likely just say) but it felt that way
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Would love to see a review video for this or a follow up video 2-3 months later!
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The music was very distracting. It was hard to hear your explanation.
Interesting product - curious to try it out.
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Maybe I get this wrong but in my understanding you connect to a VPN Server so that if someone tries to find you, they just end up on the VPN Server.
So if I use a Hardware VPN, basically a server for me and me only, wouldn't it be possible to find me? I get that others can connect to your divide but if I don't want that, don't wanna be part of this ecosystem, just use it as a VPN for myself, isn't it less secure, then a traditional VPN?
Same doubt
If you’re connected to a node, they’ll find that node.
Which might be an issue for you if somebody connects to your node and uses it to access illegal content.
@@DisturbedNeo this is my fear. This alone is not worth the risk. It's not secure if someone can find out where you're going.
Same question I have
This whole thing is a big security joke. I started laughing uncontrollably as I can't believe people are so stupid to support this... Maybe it's time for me to quit IT people are becoming to silly for me. Hope everyone enjoys all the spam email going through their public IP.
I will watch this company with great interest.
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Still one of the best tech reviewers.
As a security expert in training i find it hard to trust products when they dont disclose security features in an industry standard way. As far as im concerned a '7 layer firewall' means nothing without reference to what type of firewall it is and where it operates on the network stack. It honestly seems like they are confusing a 7 layer firewall to a layer 7 firewall, which is a big fuck up in terms of false advertising.
hey bro ... try to decrease the background music plz .... good video keep it up :D
So basically its less reliable VPN because its peer to peer and no one want to log in to a VPN in China vs the USA. And its more of a hassle since its a hardware device you have to carry around and plug in rather than a simple software.
I'd say its the opposite since you have 100x more location options across the world compared to a centralized VPN and you don't have to pay monthly fee.
Whether it's this actual company or a group of others, this sounds like a new tech bubble not seen since the beginning of the internet. Wow, crypto, networking, and the internet all in one coming to a strong head. I'm hesitant and intrigued at the same time. I'm wondering how secure the peer to peer interactions are. I need to learn more about how that may work and what possible breaches may exist or not.
Hey Justin, the device actually works to counter breaches. The sharing takes place at the internet level, your network is even more secure with it.
Your IPs appear masked on other nodes. Yet, these masked nodes protect you in case a bad actor uses your IP for malicious acts as it can prove it wasn't your IP which carried out nefarious acts. You can also create or upload blacklists for your IP and turn off BitTorrent! Also, as for the blacklist web filter, blacklist wildcard will be added to the next firmware update which will boost the blacklist performance.
The sound for the video is screwed. The shots inside the white room are very subdued and can barely be heard !
Basically a hardware version of 'The Onion Router'. Hmmm not sure I'd want to connect to that, because if someone accesses dodgy content/sites through your node/network, then you could potentially get into trouble. Not sure how it actually works to avoid this sort of scenario.
Pico is only 100 Mbps. Wish it handled more bandwidth. The mini is too expensive.
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This sounds like a huuge security risk. The same device that can access all of your web traffic and that does packet inspection is also connecting to an advertising network and injecting ads. That sounds like a nightmare for potential tracking for targeted ads in the future
Cant wait to see what their cut of the crypto will be. I bet its something crazy. As good as they make it sound, something seems fishy to me.
Syntropy also has a decentralized VPN. They are another crypto-related business that are focusing on revolutionizing the current internet infrastructure.
Think of the current internet as a paper map, no traffic info, outdated road names etc...
Syntropy are aiming to implement a sort of Google Maps for the internet - adding encryption, decentralization (looking at you AWS) and increasing effectiveness of packet routing.
Not for everyone but for people interested in new internet infrastructure development, it's pretty interesting.
Anyone allergic to crypto might want to avoid this post. I don't want to be liable for any damages caused due to allergic reactions ;)