PLO8 & BigO with GREG VAIL
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2024
- Poker coach and split-pot specialist Greg Vail joins me for a conversation about Omaha Hi/Lo. He shares great insights for Hold'em players starting to learn PLO8 & BigO.
Find out more about Greg or look for his books on doublesuited.net/ and on Twitter at @GregVail85. Also, big thanks to Jarrad for joining the conversation and bringing some questions about starting fresh in PLO games! Find him on IG + Twitter at @JarradReynolds.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:43 Greg's story
06:53 The mathematical advantage in split-pot games
07:50 The #1 problem of NLH players
13:18 Why Holdem players should learn O8
18:08 What keeps more people from learning O8
27:06 Your NLH game will improve
31:00 Calculating your win rate
38:00 About Greg's books, SCOOP!
42:45 How to start playing
50:44 Jarrad joins us for some 1-on-1 coaching and advice
55:18 What NLH skills translate to PLO?
59:59 What Greg's most successful students do
1:03:15 Common mistakes and misplays that NLH players make in O8
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TIMESTAMPS in the description box above! Big thanks to Greg and Jarrad! I've started reading Greg's books and will share my experience afterwards. Check him out for yourself at doublesuited.net
This is absolutely fantastic. I’m a professional no limit player in Vegas (14 years). I’ve only dabbled in split pot games (The Orleans). This guy is inspiring me to get into it more!
Hey Christy this is a fantastic video. I am so glad I just discovered your channel! It was a bit of a surprise, too, to realize I know you and your husband. I remember playing Omaha with you at the oaks. I moved down here to the desert after my divorce last year. I play a fair amount of Big O, there is a 5-10 pot limit game at my local casino, Agua Caliente, but I prefer the 2-3 pot limit game at Oceans Eleven in Oceanside. Keep up the great work with the channel! Regards, Vince
Thanks for finally putting this up. Been waiting for this. I like how Greg laughs/snickers at his "edge". To know you are really, really great something -- that has to be an unbelievable feeling.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this video. I am learning and playing micro stakes PLO8 tournaments and sit-n-go's on ACR. Greg's first book was an eyeopener. I am on my second read through before moving on to the second book. I wish there was more PLO8 content out there.
Great interview. Big O is the game of the future. 💯. It's been great in Oregon for a long time.
been getting into big o thanks to a private game.. realised quickly that the variance practically disappeared. Now i dont even want to play games that arent split pot. Shout out to my infantry brother greg! hope to meet you one day and buy you a beer. thanks for all the information its very kind of you.
Variance disappeared? The more cards you add the more you increase the variance.
Loved the poker talk. Not so much the Covid great mongering which didn't age well. The sneeze guards were a nightmare!
Really excellent interview here.
great video - thanks a lot!
That was a very interesting conversation. Didn’t even feel like 90+ minutes. 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! We talked for over 2.5 hours and it was really hard to pare it down 😀
Just Christy B probably the best insights on HiLo game I have heard.
been waiting for this to come out! great job Christy! think everyone's missing the Christy B mix game tourneys!
Woohoo! Sorry it took so long. The days melt together but O8 is still the sh*t!
BTW, that over the shoulder thing is illegal unless its postmortem
I wonder if Greg has changed his tune now on vaccination-to-play.
Make the ace “high only” and make the low 9 or better and I think it will have even more skill
does he have a channel?
a few days ago i thought i lost youre card protector aka gem.
But if found in a pocket, brought me luck so many times.
Hope youre doing fine?! :-).
Aww glad you still have it! How are you? I am fortunate to be fine. Andre and I are getting ready to start a new RUclips channel--we purchased an old RV and are going to renovate it! So, that's keeping us hopeful during covid.
@@JustChristyB Sounds great with the RV. That´s kind of a challenge. :-)
For myself i´m feeling fine and in germany we have really tough hygiene rules regarding the
covid thing so it´s just a matter of time till its over we hope.
And still playing poker hoping to get the big win. On Saturday i will fly to Portugal (Algarve) for
holyday. Great food & swimming etc. :-)
we don't want holdem players to learn the game...we want holdem players to continue to approach the game as they would holdem
What’s up rev
Ha! Yes, well some people will want to play "just for fun" and never try to develop their skill to a level of mastery. But I hear ya, Greg and other coaches will ultimately make the game more competitive. The benefit is that new people will continuously be introduced to the game.
@@26bisket who is this?
Do a new video
1st!!!!
Well done, you even beat ME!
@@JustChristyB I was actually thinking about you yesterday, wondering where's her next video at.. then boom here it is today. Thanks!
@@andrewnicholas9079 Nice! You must have heard me through the ether "dammit, upload faster, dammit!" all day yesterday :)
Why is he kept on talking about holdem players playing big o
Because no one really starts playing poker playing Big O. Everyone is coming from holdem.
Split pot PLO has one huge problem = bad players lose money too fast, the game is just too technical. My advice is to embrace the madness and play limit split pot games. Yes you will witness the biggest donkeys having occasional monster session but thats a feature not a bug, that will ensure that they are coming back.
Holdem is much more complicated then BIG 0
😂🤣😂🤡
Lol
sucks he mostly talks about live... also find it weird saying playing short is not good.. with fullring turns into bingo
Split Pot poker is CHESS. When played with a REAL DECK, a win rate can be achieved in Split Pot that cannot be achieved in Hold-Em, because Split Pot is a concept that alot of Hold-em players Cannot Grasp. I am coming off of 24 wins in PLO-HL out of 25 sessions
I loved the video until the guy in the cap came in and made it all about him.. before him I actually learned some stuff
I know more about Big O than this guy. Ive played 28 sessions of Big O and only booked 1 loss, all my wins are a buy-in or better.
He said he wins %90 and 88bbs against weaker players
@@EricSmyth4Christ You mean 8.8 BBs per hour, right? Im not saying the guy isnt a good player. Im saying: Im better at the game and my Results prove it
@@garygwinn5818 he says in the video multiple times he makes 40-80 bb / 100 and anything less than that isn’t that impressive
Big O is a mop
@@garygwinn5818 he also says the same thing in the video if you watch the whole thing
27/28
@@garygwinn5818 On another video he said he ended 2 guys careers playing heads up Big O online in a match format for high stakes
They quit playing poker for life
I could see heads up deep stacks being brutal