MSR FREELITE 2 - Is the BRAND worth the MONEY? WET& WINDY Wild Camping
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Its late in the day, but the conditions are perfect for some more COLD, WET AND WINDY WINTER DARTMOOR WILD CAMPING!
Managing to pack all my Winter gear into my 35/45 Litre Lowe Apline backpack, I set up to West Mill Tor and pitched up my MSR Freelite 2 tent, ready to give it its first real wild camp test in some heavy wind and rain. Get ready for a long night on a cold, windy tor, a closer look at how I set up my tent, a look through what's in my winter backpack, and the obligatory Dartmoor Legend!
And I'm out again in the MSR Freelite tent, which even second hand was more money than I had so far spent on a tent. But is it worth the extra money?
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00:00 - A cold but pleasant Dartmoor evening
03:08 - Finding a suitable spot to pitch the tent
04:22 - How To Set Up The MSR Freelite 2
08:14 - What I Pack For Winter Wild Camping
13:00 - How I pass the time on those long winter evenings in a tent
16:07 - A Dartmoor Legend!
18:48 - And the weather kicks in
23:46 - Murky Old Morning
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In 500 years in cold and stormy nights or in nights with rain and thunder you may see a pale figure tirelessly roaming dartmoor! Wandering from tor to tor setting up a tent for a while, making a brew and then packing his rucksack and get on the way again!
And if you come to close to this restless soul you can hear a whisper in the wind .... "Hi,Trevor here! Summit or nothing! Today with my new tent!" 😵
Great adventure! Thanks for taking us along!
Cheers Steve. Thanks for joining me!
Cracking video Trev! Perfect camping weather 👏👏👏
Yea, it made for an enjoyable night!
Great video Trev and so great to see you out solo camping again!
Cheers Maggi! Enjoyed getting back out, cheers for watching!
@Summit Or Nothing my pleasure as always.
I love the dartmoor legends, always a pleasure when they come on ads a little spice to the mundane walk/set up/make a hot drink/dinner/sleep routine of every other camping channel in yt!
Cool, glad that you like it. And yea I know what you mean, I feel the same creating identical videos each time tbh.
You forgot the beer 😉
Eek! Weather sounds brutal! 😦 certainly putting the MSR through its paces 😳 well done for sticking it out. Also, loved the Dartmoor legend story, keep ‘em coming. xx
Thanks Rachel. Got pretty hairy out there, but stayed up, dry and warm so all good. Cheers for watching and glad that you enjoy the legends! Cheers!
Well done! Great video! Thanks!
Thanks very much!
Nice one Trev. OG's love the Dartmoor Legends
Cheers Matt!
I love your style man! Bit quirky and chill. I agree with everyone the ambient noise is really nice people overdo it sometimes with the music. Thanks for taking us along mate!
Thanks Philio! Glad that you enjoyed the video (sorry for late reply) - hope that you have a great 2023!
I’m going to Dartmoor again next month, can’t wait! What lovely weather, makes you feel alive!
Yep - it certainly does lol. Sorry for late reply, hope you managed to get out lots in 2022! Thanks for your continued support!
I've always enjoyed the music in your videos, Trev. But there's somethig refreshing about allowing the wind and rain to speak in this one. Maybe it works best with these solo adventures.
Thanks for putting this one together and for sharing. All the best.
Cheers Olly. Yea, I couldn't really get the music to fit, and was enjoying it without. Sometimes it makes a nice change anyway. Glad you enjoyed it, mate, hope you're keeping well
That little pump is a wonderful idea the days of getting dizzy inflating at the end of a long day are over . Thanks.
Yea - its nifty! Noisy, but nifty!
Great that Trev..looked a ruff night like 👍👍👍
Cheers Craig! Glad that you enjoyed it, mate
Enjoyed that, looked chilly but cosy in the tent. Fair play getting out in that 👍🏻
Makes a better video if I can get some external shots. Cheers for watching!
Keep up the legends Trev good fun 👻👍
Cheers David! Great to hear that you enjoy them.
Fantastic video Trev, the weather gave you a hammering and it looks like the MSR did you proud👍 look forward to seeing how it compares to the Naturehikes. Keep up the great work, an awesome channel👍
Yea I will be doing a closer look vid of the msr soon. Cheers for watching!
What a crazy night in a beautiful looking tent
Thanks very much. Tent may look beautiful but it is actually a bit of a ball-acher. Cheers for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing What do you mean by that though? I'm just about to pull the trigger to buy one
Great video Trev 🙂
Cheers Marco!
Bloody good night eh trev cheers for the video bud 👍👍
Cheers Lee.
Enjoyed your always entertaining Trev 🇦🇺
Cheers Steven - glad that you enjoyed it, thanks !
Looked cold Trev, a world away from those still, mild summer nights. I also was amazed at the warming effect I felt when I switched to my xtherm. I haven’t been out for a winter camp yet. Not confident in the Lanshan 2 pro for the winter so I will go back to my Banshee for winter.
Yes, Paul, the thermarest is an amazing bit of kit. We'll worth forking out, wish I'd done it sooner. Cheers for watching!
I love a legend!!!
Cheeers Matthew! Glad that you do!
Awesome work!!! It’s great to have a video of the weather. Thermarest products are awesome. Almost too good as you don’t ever need to upgrade! 😂 amazing you got the set up into the 35 litre backpack. I had a string of usb LEDs to make the tent ultra cosy. Take care and really looking forward to the next adventure!
Yea, if the thermarest lasts then its worth forking out the extra dosh! Really impressed with it. Cheers for watching
Love my little air pump for blowing up my sleeping pad. Good camp
Yea, its a handy bit of kit, well worth the 30 seconds of noise!
More legends 🙌
With pleasure!
Good stuff 👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers Andy! Glad that you enjoyed it!
Another enjoyable video. Better than the telly :)
Cheers Steve. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Mr. Trevor ! Nice Tent ! We were up on Yes Tor Sat 15th ! It was blooming howling all night and I was in the Lanshan 1 pro FFS ! Almost blew of the Tor !! Cheers.
Haha.... yea, can imagine that felt a bit like a kite in that weather haha! Cheers for watching!
New to your channel!! Cool place to camp but looks cold!! Look forward to following your adventures!!
Welcome aboard! Dartmoor is a great place to test your metal! Thanks for watching 👀
Great vid as usual Trev and I'm a DaRtMoOr LeG-eNdS Fan. Your shoulder stap on the hike up!! I'm convinced you turn it invert just to play havoc with folks OCD ha ha ha. The MSR suits you Sir. ATB
Haha... yea I noticed that too John! Happened on a precious video too. Still comfortable though, so I hadn't noticed until the edit!
Hi Trev .
Love the look of that tent .and I love your Dartmoor legends 😀
I have got the Naturhike burner great bit of kit for the money.
Atb Graham
Cheers Graham. Tent held up OK, but I will do a closer look video soon. Cheers for watching!
Thanks
Thank you for watching
My Shoulders just jurt by watching your backpack at 0:41 😂
🤣🤣🤣 yea, me too whilst editing lol
Nice one.
Cheers!
Great video (as per usual). I'd heard that legend somewhere before but didn't know it was Dinger Tor. I camped there a couple of days ago. The Freelite looks great. Shame the new ones are different, the outer fly only comes down halfway at the ends. ATB, John.
I love my Laviathan too Trev 😂 paid £110 over a year ago from go outdoors, £160 now reduced!😱😂…. Great vlog as per usual, thanks for taking us with you mate👍🏻👍🏻
Yea same. I noticed the same updated discount price the other day and thought, wow... I hadn't paid nowhere near that for mine. Great sleeping bag though!
I just got myself a thermarest X therm max after the trekology left me lay on the floor, and its amazing, almost like lying on a radiator.. spendy but really good quality piece of kit and seems really durable too
Yea, its amazing how insulated it is, hopefully it won't fail me when I need it most!
@@SummitOrNothing 🤞🤞🤞
Factual? 😂 love a good tale 👍🏼🙏 Ah, maybe it was the wrong spot after all. Gotta love the English weather.
Hahha... yea, who would have thought that wind would turn on me 🤣🤣
Good stuff Trev', the MSR looks decent but I think I would prefer a tent that pitches inner and outer together... as we live in the UK😆
Yea, it does seem a bit strange that a tent of this price wouldn't. 🤔
Another great video Trev. Those winds were way in excess of the forecasted 30mph surely?
They did seem like it, Rod. Thanks for watching!
Quality video Trev. Im in the process of buying a new sleeping bag for my winter camping as my oex fathom 300 wasn't the best choice when I went out before Christmas. Gonna go for the Rab ascent 700
Ah, cool. Let me know how that pans out for you. I see that your fathom has an extreme rating of -22, considerably more than my Leviathan, but its comfort rating is -1, whixh is considerably less... weird1🤔🤔
@@SummitOrNothing I was out in 3 degrees and I was freezing . I was also fully clothed with 2 pairs of darn tough socks on. Luckily I had my bag liner with me which just got me through it. I've seen the rab for 180 online and it retailed at 280 .
@@johnywaffle1365 That's a good price for the Rab. Top quality, so should be much better. So far my Leviathan has been really good, the sleeping pad helps a lot too, as with any sleeping bag, especially down, the compression beneath you doesn't have the same insulation qualities.
@@SummitOrNothing The pad is next on the list. I use the ul80 and a foil padded mat at the moment. I'll save my pennies and invest in one for next winter for sure. Cheers Trev
Started with a twisted shoulder strap, not for the first time, a real Trevorism .I for one enjoy the story’s ..enjoyed the watch
🤣🤣🤣 yea... didn't notice either till the edit.... and then it bugged the shit out of me hahah!
Alright Trev, I’ve just got an MSR access 1 in bright orange! It’s a 4 season tent not used it yet my previous tents are the cloud peak 2 and cloud up just felt I needed to go premium. Hope your getting on with the free lite ok looks a nice tent.
Hi ya mate - sorry for ate reply. How did you get on with your MSR Access? Did it pay to go premium? I wasn't overly impressed with the Freelite to be honest - a bit of a ballache to set up, a bit on the small side. My tent of the year has to be the Taiji 2 I reckon!
Great video ready to get out there myself but was literally 'ripped' on a backpack (it was all ripped so...not quite yet.
"I'm going for a sleep"
Mother Nature:"Not quite yet..hear my roaaaar"🤣ATB mate.
Lee.
🤣🤣🤣 you'll get there. Cheers for watching!
great video Trev and no music which i like but missed the usual music for tent pitching all the best
Yea, it was because I was talking through the pitch and the cam I have hasn't got as good a mic as the one that packed up during my last coast walk and the music was just too overbearing! Sat through it a couple of times trying to make music fit to different parts and it just felt like it wasn't working. Must source a new camera soon. Anyway,
I enjoy the Dartmoor legends, it's unique and interesting. Keep it up.
Cheers Richard - glad that you enjoy them! Thanks!
Hi Trev love video, and your set up. When you said you were not sure which way round the fly went, if your MSR is similar to my MSR Huba Huba, two tapes on one end are red to match the inner ones. Anyway I’m sure a man of you calibre will sort it. Still enjoy the tales of Dartmoor. ATB.
Ah, maybe it did Roger. I shall look closer for that in future. Cheers!
That wind sounded like rumbling thunder. Thought it was gonna get like ⛈ Maybe it does later (I’m only a few minutes in). You found a nice spot though. Soon as you got there, the wind was no longer present 👍🏼
Yea not a bad pitch. Not entirely sure there was thunder, think it's just the camera mic. Cheers for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest!
Loving all your videos! Do you have recommendation for a family tent? 2 adults 2 small children (4&2) maybe better to get two smaller cloud ups or is there a good lightweight that will fit us all in? Thanks ☺️
HELLO. WATCHING. CAMPING. VIDEO.
You got my car in shot at the start.
Famous! 🤣🤣
Like the idea of making own boil in the bag, are the silver foil packs vacuum sealed or just like a traditional hydrated meal once open ? Good review, things don't always go to plan!
Theyre just zip lock, but you can iron them shut if you wanted to make sure they dont come open - not that I have had that trouble yet, but I always bag them in a second bag just to prevent a messy accident!
If I didn't know better I'd swear you nicked the Soba noodle idea from me 😂 been eating them pretty much solid the last few months of camping. Love them and so cheap. Great vid trev, good to see the MSR stand up to a battering. Atb Michael 👍
Always loved the soba noodles, usually for lunch at work bit I saw them whilst in the shop on my way out and thought... yup! Cheers for watching, Michael! !
@Summit Or Nothing was going to be eating them tonight on High Willhays. Got there in pitch black. Went to set up tent and my water bladder had emptied 2 litres inside my rucksack 😔 everything soaked. That was a long walk back to the car park.
@@NoviceWildCamper No way - thats a nightmare. Hope your camera etc was OK. I have had a bit of a month of it - my camcorder packed up, but was under warrenty so sent it back... they have come back and said that is was damaged and not general use and wont repair it! Bloody annoying that!
@Summit Or Nothing that's poor. No, camera all ok as was in my pocket, just a bag full of water. 🤣
Sounds like distant thunder there.
May just have been the mic.
Yeah......stuff an stuff! 🤣🤣
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Trev... you’ve changed 😉🤣 MSR tents, Thermarest mats, hope you’re not turning into a Paul Messner 😁😆
Haha... you don't have to worry about that just yet. Glad I got the thermarest, but the msr wouldn't have been purchased had it not been such a good offer.
@@SummitOrNothing I’m only pullin ya leg mate. I do really like the look of that tent. I’m a lanshan man and have been looking at something a bit more rugged for winter and summit camps. I did have my eye on the Vango Helvellyn which looks fantastic value for £110. I might have to save up a little more and get that MSR.
Weather in 🇬🇧 👍
Lovely isn't i? Lol!
Thanks Trev, perfect content for a sunday evening! Looking forward to getting out again myself but until then thanks for satisfying my needs for some nature 😅
No worries, it's what we're here for!
Fantastic Trev, good timing just running out of RUclips and Netflix, going to pop the kettle on and the feet up, looking like a brutal one already! Catch you soon, Ceri and Kat ☕ ❤ 🗺 🧭
Cheers guys! Hope you enjoy it!
Can you tell me where you get the foil food pouches from please, thanks
☕❤👍
I know you mentioned the tent can be put up, outer first, but I would have thouight a high value tent would perhaps come 'ready joined'
I have an old Vango Spectre 200, which does just this .. poles in .. pull upright .. peg out .. climb in .. DONE !
YEa - I mentioned that in the previous video - seems ridiculous that such a pricey tent should hve so many minor design flaws. I will be doing an update video where I have a closer look and discuss the tent in detail at some point!
Sorry seen the link below for them.
What do you use/trust to predict the upcoming weather? I havent found any app reliable especially for Dartmoor.
No, I think you're right. The weather is unpredictable and even more so on Dartmoor due to exposure and altitude. I tend to check met office as they do cover a few of the tors and generally in the ball park, besides I think they tend to be who supply the other apps information 🤔
Hello mate. Can I ask what are the bags you stored and cooked your Stew in please. Thanks.
There's a link in the video description, George!
Hi Trev what is the foil bag you cook your stew in and where is it from please
There are links in the video description, Simon!
Factual Giants 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea, they're all true these Dartmoor Legends hahah
Was the MSR better than the Cloud Up 2
No. I wouldn't say so
Thanks great video. I have a free lite wasn’t aware of the strap - where do you get it from and cost/ weight. Does it work? Thanks 😊
Hi ya. Turns out the chap I bought it from made it himself.
@@SummitOrNothing Thanks for the quick reply 😂 I eventually made myself one out of some tent lines and picture frame hooks to place the poles ends in. Weighs nothing and works a treat 😀
@@MrDavidh37 awesome. Yea, sorry about the delay. I have fallen a little behind with correspondence lol
1st🤘😎
I had to bin off another comment on a different video lol, didn't even realise the time lol! Well played Mr Badger 🥳❤☕👍🦡
@@TeaInValhalla 🤣🤣🤣
@@TeaInValhalla you will be pushing young children over next 🤣
Is it four times better than a Nature hike Cloud Up 2?
Not by a long shot. I will be doing a summary of it shortly!
@@SummitOrNothing partly due to your reviews I own a Cloud Up 2 with snow skirts, I've been wild camping now for 7 months in Scotland's Highlands, a brilliant tent for the money, I use it in all conditions wind rain and snow, it's done me proud, in the Cairngorms at present where it's been cold at times so I just cover the inner netting with light weight plastic sheet (half a dust sheet from Poundland :) leaving the front a rear netting free for ventilation works great and I've kept warm well below zero camping on a few feet of snow. Thanks so much for your video's, love your honest reviews and down to earth style, filming even when things don't go quite right it shows part of the fun is in the learning and that wild camping is available to all no matter your budget. Cheers 😁
You don't need a garmin to tell you when sunset is when you are out and about if you can see the sun. Just use your fingers. 15 mins per finger.
Great tip, cheers Graeme, but you'd be surprised how often I refer to the garmin for sunset and sunrise times ahead of time, handy having it on your wrist throughout the day, gives you an idea of what time you're have to aim for when hiking etc
I would like to see this one with the usual music.. if u ever feel like re uploading it on a week when ur short of a vid ATB(stops me having to hum the incy wincy music :)
🤣🤣🤣 I may do a re-edit at some point. Cheers.
For the ruling price of the jacket it better provide ducking warmth same with the tent.
The jacket is a great insulative layer - but not a bad price, about a third of the price of Rab and North Face jackets. The tent was fairly toasty - but then it could have been my sleeping system.
Great trip, but why you not wearing rain coat on way back ? You must got soaked.
The same reason that I wasn't wearing the down jacket on the way up, it was packed. Must admit, it was was bit misty, but as soon as I started to pack up the tent, the heavens opened. Was a mad dash to get it packed away and yea, I was soaked to my underwear 🤦♂️
I like the legends mate, and that’s my favourite. I took the family up to Dinger to enjoy a cream tea on Dinger Tor!
Nice one Trev as usual mate 👍🏻
Awesome, John. How very fitting. Love it!
Red coat with black backpack in, yet black coat and red backpack out? Nice adventure nonetheless good Sir.
Yea, down jacket was (stupidly) in my bag on way in, waterproof jacket was stupidly in my backpack on way out. Backpack is the same just had the raincover on it in the end.
@@SummitOrNothing I thought something like that was going on. Kind regards.
I love to use music with my videos but must admit it is the most difficult part to find the right music for the video... Windy, rainy and cold night seems right for a SON video... Tiny people to giants... A bit of a stretch so to speak...LOL
Yea, the music just didn't seem to fit this time, a lot to do with the mic on this camera not being as effective as my usual camera (which packed up on my previous coast walk). Cheers for watching, Max!
Does your OEX Leviathan leak feathers like mine ?
No, but the naturehike spare I had taken did, had a small tear in it, looked like I been mutilating chickens in the morning.
@@SummitOrNothing yea same here. I used it up at steeperton last weekend and the feathers were clumped in the corner where condensation had formed. I have been told down stuff can leak for a bit and then it stops. Fingers crossed !
@@SummitOrNothing glad to see you have joined team MSR hahaha. I've been using an elixir 2 since last year and love it to bits.
@Rich Reuben Hobbs yes mine too. Very warm though.
David Brent moment at 17:42
😂😂😂
"i'm not going to use the pumpsak....because last time i thought it was a f***ing b*llache". Other channels could do well to copy the honest reviews😁 (Also have a flextail pump 😉)
Hahah! Yea - you know what your tuning in for over here lol
The fact that your not in a 4 season tent is right where it's at, get stuff
Your words makes my brain hurt
@@SummitOrNothing oh mate the morning after and there corrected now, bloody great vids
At 7.43 you put pegs in straight down not at 45 degrees, hope you did not do all like that.
At 7.43 I'm not putting pegs in, but I shouldn't think I had put it in straight down as I always angle them against the tension.
@@SummitOrNothing Soz about that it was 7.10/7.12
@@johnmccarron pretty sure rhey are at 45 degrees. Think it's probably just the camera angle
@@SummitOrNothing LoL
Great video Trev. Boy you get some great camping weather.
Hah1 Yes we do Ray - it was the first rough spell I have had for quite a time - I really enjoyed it!