They were pretty well rehearsed let’s say and of course Toby went into this loaded for bear winner take all so I’m willing to bet he spent a good couple grand to get that many people together last minute or maybe he was planning at the whole time………Will never know :-)
+Michael Yup his successor as Prime Minister Clement Attlee said "Democracy means government by discussion, but it is only effective if you can stop people talking."
The worst thing that can happen in a democracy - as well as in an individual's life - is to become cynical about the future and lose hope. Hillary Clinton Read more at: www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/democracy.html
Seeing that Trump won it might be time to trow in another Churchill quote: "My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."
I was once accused of trying to steal someone's identity by asking to see their driver's license so I could check if they were registered. The guy got so angry about it, I almost thought he was going to hit me in the face.
I live in Britain and (hopefully you know) we had the EU vote a few months ago. The voting started at 7am. I missed the bus to college (high school!), but seeing as I only had one lesson and knew my teacher wasn't going to be in anyway, I just thought "sod it" and walked home. I realised I now had the time to vote so when I got home I gathered up my stuff and went out to the hall set aside for the vote... When I walked in there, there were two women behind the table collecting peoples info etc. and they just had this look on their faces like "I do not want to be here. I want to be in bed. Why did I volunteer for this. Goddammit." I felt very sorry for them. Then went home and went to bed again.
I've watched this episode so many time - but I literally only just realised that Josh's scream at the end was answering the guys question. I don't know why but I always thought it was like a release of pressure, happy that they had got to election day and that they were going to win. It's odd how you can misconstrue something like that.
Toby is the unique Democrat--he thinks like a Republican. While a Democrat gets into office and thinks, "whew! that was close! let's not rock the boat or we might lose the next one", an ideologue thinks, "finally! now let's get everything done before we get voted out by the know-nothings".
Megan Cavanagh: ".......uh who remembers..........." Brad Whitford: "...........it was a minute and a half ago....." Megan Cavanagh: ".........well, don't be rude............."
Fun scene, but Josh would have voted absentee, of course. Almost all campaign workers do that so they can work the polls on election day PLUS they don't run the risk of not voting because of some accident.
See, you should have put a period after "scene" and left it at that. Because this isn't real. It's a fictional drama. And Aaron Sorkin has said repeatedly he doesn't care about realism. If he has to make a choice between being entertaining or being real, he will always choose being entertaining. So stop trying to apply reality because it doesn't apply.
@ethanpan2335 yes he is and he would've been registered as a DC voter. The original commenter is saying that Josh would've voted via postal ballot as there is so much to do on election day.
I am in a city where a mayoral race has drawn passions. I saw 2 different people ask online if you have to live in the city to vote for it's mayor. Suddenly, this WW skit doesn't seem so farcical.
Think you might want to watch that again :) She left all but one box blank, which means you filled in one, and left all the rest blank, hence you voted for none but one.
Still have to mark all the boxes. Straight ticket voting just means you chose candidates from only one party. It's not a type of election. Josh was right.
Not every state has that I believe. In some states you have to do every troop but in others I think you can just check the box next to the party at the top of the ballot.
It was 20 hrs in America episode I think when josh Toby and Donna missed air force one flight and stuck in wherever. I forget how or why but josh had Toby tell anyone he meets.. “I’m Toby Ziegler and I work at the White House “.😂😂
That is Chicago, where the male vagrants grew their hair for two months before Election Day so they could cast their vote four times in the same precinct.
I cannot remember; was this before or after the prank everyone pulled on Toby where they said there was no way Toby wouldn’t praise the president before the debates when he wasn’t sharp and on point and needing to go “back to camp.”? If it is after it shows how Toby gets the last laugh with a troop of actors or how (if before) Josh and the crew really gave it to Toby for pulling this stunt first. My guess? This was retribution, that a bunch of seemingly ignorant voters, one after another, strikes fear into Josh.
Miles Reiter I figured. However, I get the feeling they kind of pulled that kind of a prank or stunt on each other a few times. I miss this show. The acting troupe was pretty good. I liked the woman who “ranked” the candidates. One after another No one seemingly knew how to correctly ballot. I like the head of the group getting in the extra point about being registered.
The thing that REALLY made me laugh is when, near the end of the scene, you see all the "actors" in the background behind Josh, and Josh realizes that they were all in on the joke. #HILARIOUS
* BSGT2TREKFAN88* Besides Halo 4, what games are you playing these days? Also, if you have a gaming PC, what are your system specs? You ready for the coming Cyberpunk 2077?
seriously though, ballots should be simpler. If we didn't have the butterfly ballots in 2000, florida wouldnt have caused so much confusion. Whose bright idea was that anyway? And I'm all for multiple parties, but I really think the same person shouldn't be the nominee for more than one party. 1:58 also ranked choice voting needs to be a thing. But if it isn't, don't vote like it is.
The Butterfly Ballot was a "solution" to the high number of candidates on the ballot. In order to include both name and party, the ballot was redesigned. Of course, any person with eyeballs can tell you that the solution was needlessly complicated, but in reality it wasn't *that* hard. Many people did vote correctly. Some people just get confused easily in these types of circumstances. A later mock up demonstrated that by rearranging the presentation of name and party, the ballot could keep the original, simpler format. Also yeah first past the post sucks.
Truth All The Way Down. I cannot wait to see Rep Matt Gaetz' non reaction allegedly. Kicking The Tyres oh and a surprising wheelie? Tucker Carlson. A person work sign and yes Imagination. The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club was a British television variety show produced by Granada Television from 1974 to 1977. It was set in a fictional working men's club in the North of England They May Be Giants Just In Play Fair.
It's...a show from the perspective of a Democratic administration. Of course they believe in what they're doing. I love the unquestioned assumption that permeates your comments that your time is best wasted digging up clips of a show that clearly irritates the hell out of you.
To the contrary there were plenty of episodes that called into question the morality of their cause. Check out “The woman of Qumar” where CJ raises hell over us selling weapons to nations that abuse women. Or “Han” where a North Korean tries to defect and is denied for political reasons. Many of these episodes do a good job of presenting arguments of both sides and sometimes I didn’t agree with the administration and their view. Leo leaves Bartlett due to his reluctance to strike back at Palestinians that attacked an American convoy. I disagreed strongly with Bartlett and disliked his refusal to use force when needed, all hall marks of democratic politics. Give it another look.
@@SonOfGod3000 There was an episode in the very first season about a gun control bill where someone "jumped the fence"l. And took Josh to task over it for almost a minute, basically telling him to his face "you compromised too much to get this to pass, it's not solving what you want it to solve, and that's why I'm now against this bill". While these were the protagonists, and the center of the show's focus, I never really mistook them as being entirely "in the right". They were often making decisions with the best intentions, yet knew there was compromises and flaws which they had to hurtle past in order to avoid getting paralyzed over trying to make a "perfect" decision when they simply needed to make *the* decision. And at the same time, those opposed to them sometimes are simply trying to do the best thing as they see it. Though it's easy enough to see common threads of politicians simply playing politics as though it's a game to sit at the table as long as they can. (Again, the same episode I mentioned had a Congressman 'on their side' threaten to switch their vote unless they "sat at the cool kids' table" as Josh put it.) ... then there's the somewhat minor point of how President Bartlett is still a somewhat insufferable 'genius' and loves inflicting himself on people because he can. While still being a caring, supportive person when it's needed. He's flawed, in many ways, some of them major to his character... Kind of interesting to think of.
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I wonder how much Toby paid the acting troup so he could win a $10 bet.
Tobey is the Communications Director, he has more than enough connections to get people to do him a favor.
Toby is the type who would spend anything to make a point.
They were pretty well rehearsed let’s say and of course Toby went into this loaded for bear winner take all so I’m willing to bet he spent a good couple grand to get that many people together last minute or maybe he was planning at the whole time………Will never know :-)
It was ALL worth it.
Not enough.
I think it was Churchil that who said that the best argument against democracy is five minutes talking with the average voter
+Michael Yup his successor as Prime Minister Clement Attlee said "Democracy means government by discussion, but it is only effective if you can stop people talking."
The worst thing that can happen in a democracy - as well as in an individual's life - is to become cynical about the future and lose hope. Hillary Clinton
Read more at: www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/democracy.html
He also said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."
Look at that, we just completed a West Wing quote together!
I think that that's ironic, given that she lost and Trump won.
Seeing that Trump won it might be time to trow in another Churchill quote:
"My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."
This is a painful reminder of being a poll worker in the last few elections in my state.
I was once accused of trying to steal someone's identity by asking to see their driver's license so I could check if they were registered.
The guy got so angry about it, I almost thought he was going to hit me in the face.
Upstate SC. It's kinda par for the course, though it isn't as bad as most people think.
South Carolina.
***** In a manner of speaking, yeah.
I live in Britain and (hopefully you know) we had the EU vote a few months ago. The voting started at 7am. I missed the bus to college (high school!), but seeing as I only had one lesson and knew my teacher wasn't going to be in anyway, I just thought "sod it" and walked home. I realised I now had the time to vote so when I got home I gathered up my stuff and went out to the hall set aside for the vote... When I walked in there, there were two women behind the table collecting peoples info etc. and they just had this look on their faces like "I do not want to be here. I want to be in bed. Why did I volunteer for this. Goddammit."
I felt very sorry for them. Then went home and went to bed again.
Watching this the day after election day 2020.
I think you’re not the only one but you are the first to comment so congratulations :-)
I've watched this episode so many time - but I literally only just realised that Josh's scream at the end was answering the guys question. I don't know why but I always thought it was like a release of pressure, happy that they had got to election day and that they were going to win. It's odd how you can misconstrue something like that.
Prank Toby on a 1-10 scale at a 4
Toby will up the ante to 15
Toby is the unique Democrat--he thinks like a Republican. While a Democrat gets into office and thinks, "whew! that was close! let's not rock the boat or we might lose the next one", an ideologue thinks, "finally! now let's get everything done before we get voted out by the know-nothings".
Toby goes all in when he pranks, doesn't he?
Toby is like those people who believe, "if it isn't worth doing right, go invest that time in something that is".
Especially that shuttle leak thing.
Megan Cavanagh: ".......uh who remembers..........."
Brad Whitford: "...........it was a minute and a half ago....."
Megan Cavanagh: ".........well, don't be rude............."
As she votes for Bartlett: “It had to be...youuuuuu.”
They said that.
0:00 - 2:09 = Central Library, Downtown Los Angeles
2:10 - 3:12 = some other random place.
Hollywood teleportation magic!
Fun scene, but Josh would have voted absentee, of course. Almost all campaign workers do that so they can work the polls on election day PLUS they don't run the risk of not voting because of some accident.
Back when elections were boring
See, you should have put a period after "scene" and left it at that. Because this isn't real. It's a fictional drama. And Aaron Sorkin has said repeatedly he doesn't care about realism. If he has to make a choice between being entertaining or being real, he will always choose being entertaining. So stop trying to apply reality because it doesn't apply.
Wouldn’t Josh be living full-time in D.C. by this point? Surely he’d be registered as a D.C. voter if he’s Deputy Chief of Staff
@ethanpan2335 yes he is and he would've been registered as a DC voter. The original commenter is saying that Josh would've voted via postal ballot as there is so much to do on election day.
Marla Hooch “What a hitter”
I'm glad I'm not the only one who spotted her.
I am in a city where a mayoral race has drawn passions. I saw 2 different people ask online if you have to live in the city to vote for it's mayor. Suddenly, this WW skit doesn't seem so farcical.
its
this video makes me actually sweat with anxiety
Man I love this show
This probably a great electoral educational video🙂
1:08 She uses "all but one"
and he uses "none but one"
Josh the pessimist hahaha
Think you might want to watch that again :) She left all but one box blank, which means you filled in one, and left all the rest blank, hence you voted for none but one.
I imitated Lyman's "YES" in front of the Sound Transit Board last year when they authorized ST3. ;-)
One of my favourite scenes...but on this video the footage is mirrored.
+Mika Salakka yup it is
mirrored to avoid tripping copyright bots
The third voter is played by Megan Cavanagh, aka Marla Hooch from the movie A League of Their Own.
Poor Josh lol!!
The writers were the best.
The last question is a little wierd if you're from Minnesota, as we have same day registration.
It’s so weird watching it in reverse.
Ideally voting should be so easy even we Americans can do it
In other words,foolproof?
Ideally we should be educated on how to vote in high school, and any other systems of voting.
Apparently not.......
Oh Mr Lyman - I zeee your face in the magazine. Tell me, if I swallow my ballot…? LMAO.
Did you at least vote for the president?
"Ah, who remembers?"
Where was this voting taking place? It looked like Union Station in DC.
Its not. I lived in the District
Josh must not know about straight-ticket voting.
Still have to mark all the boxes. Straight ticket voting just means you chose candidates from only one party. It's not a type of election. Josh was right.
Not every state has that I believe. In some states you have to do every troop but in others I think you can just check the box next to the party at the top of the ballot.
It was 20 hrs in America episode I think when josh Toby and Donna missed air force one flight and stuck in wherever. I forget how or why but josh had Toby tell anyone he meets.. “I’m Toby Ziegler and I work at the White House “.😂😂
Indiana, where they used to have multiple time zones.
Poor Josh! LOL
Fun little factoid. The escalator scene was filmed at the Los Angeles Central Library.
As Geroge Carlin famously put it: 'It ain't gettin' any smarter out there'.
Does anyone recognize the building where they filmed thins scene? I feel like I recognize it from my childhood .
Someone said the L.A. Central Library, but IDK.
How is it believable that people who are politically interested enough to recognize the deputy chief of staff wouldn't know how to vote
If you want him to be in Washington DC, you choose one. If you want him to be in Concord, you choose the other. He can't be in two offices at once.
In nz, you can enrol on Election Day..
Im dizzy.
Hey, Mr. Lyman, do you have to be a citizen to vote?
For some state elections, no.
This was a 'Gotcha' moment, wasn't it?
practical jokers are the pits when they dont know when to stop!
HAR HAr har
Those of you from Texas… On Election Day please stay with Texas traditions. Vote early and vote often.
That is Chicago, where the male vagrants grew their hair for two months before Election Day so they could cast their vote four times in the same precinct.
I cannot remember; was this before or after the prank everyone pulled on Toby where they said there was no way Toby wouldn’t praise the president before the debates when he wasn’t sharp and on point and needing to go “back to camp.”?
If it is after it shows how Toby gets the last laugh with a troop of actors or how (if before) Josh and the crew really gave it to Toby for pulling this stunt first.
My guess? This was retribution, that a bunch of seemingly ignorant voters, one after another, strikes fear into Josh.
Yup, this was after the prank on Toby, that's what the reference to the 10 dollars was about!
Miles Reiter I figured. However, I get the feeling they kind of pulled that kind of a prank or stunt on each other a few times.
I miss this show. The acting troupe was pretty good. I liked the woman who “ranked” the candidates. One after another No one seemingly knew how to correctly ballot. I like the head of the group getting in the extra point about being registered.
Toby getting pranked...sadly they cut the very last bit.
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The thing that REALLY made me laugh is when, near the end of the scene, you see all the "actors" in the background behind Josh, and Josh realizes that they were all in on the joke. #HILARIOUS
Which Ep/season is this?
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BSGT2TREKFAN88* Besides Halo 4, what games are you playing these days? Also, if you have a gaming PC, what are your system specs? You ready for the coming Cyberpunk 2077?
Boy this comment didn't age well
I Vote by Postal Ballot so that I don't have to mix with people like these on Voting Day.
seriously though, ballots should be simpler. If we didn't have the butterfly ballots in 2000, florida wouldnt have caused so much confusion. Whose bright idea was that anyway? And I'm all for multiple parties, but I really think the same person shouldn't be the nominee for more than one party.
1:58 also ranked choice voting needs to be a thing. But if it isn't, don't vote like it is.
The Butterfly Ballot was a "solution" to the high number of candidates on the ballot. In order to include both name and party, the ballot was redesigned. Of course, any person with eyeballs can tell you that the solution was needlessly complicated, but in reality it wasn't *that* hard. Many people did vote correctly. Some people just get confused easily in these types of circumstances. A later mock up demonstrated that by rearranging the presentation of name and party, the ballot could keep the original, simpler format.
Also yeah first past the post sucks.
Sadly you where very wrong about halo 4 😔
Halo reach was better than 4
Truth All The Way Down. I cannot wait to see Rep Matt Gaetz' non reaction allegedly.
Kicking The Tyres oh and a surprising wheelie? Tucker Carlson. A person work sign and yes Imagination.
The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club was a British television variety show produced by Granada Television from 1974 to 1977. It was set in a fictional working men's club in the North of England
They May Be Giants
Just In Play Fair.
Hey, can I make a negative vote for Trump and de-elect him from the last election?
Yes. I think you just cross out the names of the candidates you don't want.
This show walked so Parks and Rec could run
Halo Sucks!
Why did you add music? It just ruins a scene all of us tuned to see. Not your weird fanfic version.
Why do I HAVE to watch a 30 second Hillary commercial first ?
Thats not a real question.. I know the answer... Please don't answer...
AdBlock?
+Daniel S OK.....
I got 4+ minutes for some tv show I've never heard of.
I love the unquestioned assumption that permeated this show that the Democrats are good guys.
Which of their positions do you take issue with as presented on the show?
It's...a show from the perspective of a Democratic administration. Of course they believe in what they're doing.
I love the unquestioned assumption that permeates your comments that your time is best wasted digging up clips of a show that clearly irritates the hell out of you.
To the contrary there were plenty of episodes that called into question the morality of their cause. Check out “The woman of Qumar” where CJ raises hell over us selling weapons to nations that abuse women. Or “Han” where a North Korean tries to defect and is denied for political reasons. Many of these episodes do a good job of presenting arguments of both sides and sometimes I didn’t agree with the administration and their view. Leo leaves Bartlett due to his reluctance to strike back at Palestinians that attacked an American convoy. I disagreed strongly with Bartlett and disliked his refusal to use force when needed, all hall marks of democratic politics. Give it another look.
@@SonOfGod3000 There was an episode in the very first season about a gun control bill where someone "jumped the fence"l. And took Josh to task over it for almost a minute, basically telling him to his face "you compromised too much to get this to pass, it's not solving what you want it to solve, and that's why I'm now against this bill".
While these were the protagonists, and the center of the show's focus, I never really mistook them as being entirely "in the right". They were often making decisions with the best intentions, yet knew there was compromises and flaws which they had to hurtle past in order to avoid getting paralyzed over trying to make a "perfect" decision when they simply needed to make *the* decision.
And at the same time, those opposed to them sometimes are simply trying to do the best thing as they see it. Though it's easy enough to see common threads of politicians simply playing politics as though it's a game to sit at the table as long as they can. (Again, the same episode I mentioned had a Congressman 'on their side' threaten to switch their vote unless they "sat at the cool kids' table" as Josh put it.)
... then there's the somewhat minor point of how President Bartlett is still a somewhat insufferable 'genius' and loves inflicting himself on people because he can. While still being a caring, supportive person when it's needed. He's flawed, in many ways, some of them major to his character... Kind of interesting to think of.
Voting multiple times for the same candidate. I can see why Democrats would be confused. They've been told to vote early, vote often for years.
Whereas if the Republicans get their way, Democrats won't be voting at all.
t'rump voter: "I was told that you need photo ID to buy groceries, is that true?"
Josh: "NO! That's not how it works at all!"
before anyone flips out, this is a joke from the boss tweed era.
RIGGED
U must live in flat earth...
@@epramos6800 you're a mess
And this is how we wound up with Brandon.
Your IQ is 65
He sure looks great by comparison to Pee Brain.
@@hayes7092 You're too generous. Oh, I see, you graded on a curve.
@wholeNwon Sure he does /S
BTW I hear Mush for brains is being zoted out for the Moo0Ch most votes ever Yeah!