Singapore 1983: Another day at the quay

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • Life before the demolishment of North Boat Quay, finishing with the delight of an opium pipe. A film by Ronni Pinsler. Do the viewers know what the old shopkeeper is selling and what do the three puppets shown represent? Which chess? game is being played? Viewer Persimmone informs me: The entire area has been demolished. What stands on the spot where the temple was, is now a shopping center called The Central. The area is now called Clarkes Quay, with lots of trends pubs.
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Комментарии • 435

  • @tankaihong3207
    @tankaihong3207 4 года назад +237

    I"m an old man, watching the film brought me memories , happiness, sadness, laughters n tears in my eyes.Those were the gd old days, so free n easy n less stressful. How wonderful n happy it will b if technology wouldn't have been advancing so rapidly.Thks once again 4 making me feel young again while watching. Greatly appreciated Michael n may the good God bless u n yr family in this period of the pandamic now n the days to come. Amen n Amen!

    • @serena13100
      @serena13100 4 года назад +7

      谢谢分享, 那是我们的童年和回忆, 还有些熟悉的面孔。

    • @linnhmaw
      @linnhmaw 4 года назад +8

      Tan Kai hong come to myanmar, its still a little stress free

    • @tankaihong3207
      @tankaihong3207 4 года назад +4

      @@linnhmaw ok, when the time comes, i will!

    • @Tone_SA
      @Tone_SA 4 года назад +8

      Then again, technology also allowed us to see this, I guess everhthing has its ups and downs haha!

    • @tankaihong3207
      @tankaihong3207 4 года назад +5

      @@Tone_SA well said!

  • @michaelijsbrand
    @michaelijsbrand  11 лет назад +193

    Thanks. I have many more clips on old Singapore on YT and will upload one more in a few weeks' time

    • @patricktay4442
      @patricktay4442 5 лет назад +7

      Uncle MichaelRogge,
      Thanks in advance with your contribution and sharing those days image and video in singapore whenever you visit and your pleasant stay just like you are half of singaporean personal.Appreciated with your effort

    • @alexburns6783
      @alexburns6783 4 года назад +4

      Mr Rogge, I lived in Singapore during 1983 and you have a keen eye for detail and the foresight to capture for posterity what I and many took for granted. You filmed the old part of town where I would seldom go or have reason to go. Like most people of my day I tended to stay in the newer parts of town. Well done.

    • @titaniumsteel9114
      @titaniumsteel9114 4 года назад

      Thanks you uncle Muchael R.

    • @TKLau1990
      @TKLau1990 4 года назад

      How u made this?

    • @vetiverose128
      @vetiverose128 4 года назад

      Where did u get these clips from?

  • @FelonMusk2021
    @FelonMusk2021 4 года назад +52

    Thank you for sharing this. Pleasantly surprised to see my late grand aunt in this video at 4.17. My family members get to see another facet of her life.

  • @aloynium
    @aloynium 3 года назад +24

    Wow the last panoramic shot of Marina Bay is absolutely priceless and captures how the whole area was before it is developed to how it is today.

  • @juliemcgugan1244
    @juliemcgugan1244 Год назад +10

    Hard to believe this is just one year before I came to Singapore! It is so familiar, yet so different from everything I came to know, as I only left in 2021. Singapore has developed so much, in such a short amount of time. I love looking at old photos of SG, contrasting with how those same landmarks look today!

  • @ksy1862
    @ksy1862 Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing these videos of Singapore in the early days. I am born here in 1972 and I have never seen these scenes before. It is fascinating to discover how life was like back in those days. I am really grateful for your sharing of these valuable videos which you have archived. Thank you once again.

  • @rahuldave5928
    @rahuldave5928 4 года назад +21

    This is amazing sir. I am teaching students currently here in Singapore, and them watching these videos is an amazing experience to how far Singapore has come. Thank you much for this!

  • @jowyong6769
    @jowyong6769 4 года назад +4

    To think I was 6 years old in 1983...a little kid staring at the world with wide-eyed wonder. I seem to remember Singapore being alot more modern though... But I do remember those switches mounted on a wooden board in my great-grandma's place. Pretty awesome! Thanks for the memories of a much simpler, much happier time...

  • @andrewlee8110
    @andrewlee8110 4 года назад +8

    I missed sitting at the round marble table every night with my family while waiting for supper. I also used to play with the round, black switches. The red chairs in front of the stage... everything brings back memories. Thank you for uploading the clips!

  • @sarafiansalleh6200
    @sarafiansalleh6200 4 года назад +7

    When I reminisce, it makes me want to travel back in time to enjoy fun experiences again. Thank you Michael !

  • @yhong9733
    @yhong9733 6 лет назад +25

    Michael's channel is like a time machine.

  • @adrianjamestansmu
    @adrianjamestansmu 11 лет назад +11

    This is great! I was born in Singapore but left in 1986. Images like these are still etched in my mind. This is the Singapore I remember.

  • @terencelew8228
    @terencelew8228 12 лет назад +6

    No need to doubt Mr Rogge's life long passion. Excellent job!

  • @jhf4930
    @jhf4930 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Michael, brought back a lot of memory for many of us.
    It is very kind of you. Heart felt appreciation.

  • @mavelch
    @mavelch 4 года назад +2

    Thank you very much MichaelRogge to show the old time Singapore.

  • @JP-kx6kr
    @JP-kx6kr 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for that. I was privileged enough to live and work in Singapore from 2000 to 2010, amazing place and people. Miss it a lot.

  • @tlcchuang742
    @tlcchuang742 2 года назад +2

    Singapore in the 80's captured in a time capsule through the lens of Mr Rogge, thank you. Hopefully for future generations to come, they will forge their own stories to be told in such beautiful images, different but nonetheless, equally moving

    • @tf-ok
      @tf-ok 10 месяцев назад

      A film by Ronni Pinsler.

  • @dany1247
    @dany1247 8 лет назад +11

    Thank you so much for this video Michael. So long ago...I was still a teenager then.

  • @christinealcazaren6568
    @christinealcazaren6568 4 года назад +8

    I'm staying at Robertson quay now..and seeing this was amazing..it's really good to see the old times..feels like so stressed free..

    • @EnidColeslaw
      @EnidColeslaw 4 года назад +3

      I doubt they were stress-free. The '80s were a time of major transition for Singapore. Urban renewal had just begun, and it was still quite common then to come across the sort of difficult living conditions and poverty you can see in this clip. Life might have been 'simpler', but not easier, for those who had yet to make their way into the middle classes.

  • @joycelow2667
    @joycelow2667 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Michael for all your hard work all these years.

  • @michaelijsbrand
    @michaelijsbrand  12 лет назад +2

    Have also a look at my other clips of your great city-state by searching RUclips with 'michael rogge singapore'

    • @siak12345
      @siak12345 4 года назад +2

      Hi Michael, You have done a very great service to the citizens of Singapore and captured the spirit of the times in these beautifully taken films of the old world charm of our island state. Watching your films certainly brings back so much nostalgia and reminiscence of my youth. Many of us, senior citizens, can now watch and rewatch our past through your wonderful archive! Thanks! Deeply appreciated! God bless you and your family!

    • @michaelijsbrand
      @michaelijsbrand  4 года назад +1

      @@siak12345 Thanks. Glad to know that my work is not in vain !

    • @siak12345
      @siak12345 4 года назад

      Mr Michael, so pleased to know that you are now 90 years young. May God bless you with many nany more good and healthy years🙏

  • @ChloeBC2023
    @ChloeBC2023 3 года назад +4

    I was 9 years old then but i can still remember some parts of this quite vividly. nice video

    • @bush-b5330
      @bush-b5330 2 года назад

      I was 9 years too! But never benn to Singapore

  • @miiigoreng
    @miiigoreng 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for these beautiful glimpses of my country, during the days i never saw.

  • @jj6052
    @jj6052 5 лет назад +5

    Thank You for all your precious clips! They are priceless!

  • @exas4791
    @exas4791 6 лет назад +4

    Wow, authentic yet sufficiently clear video, in colour !

  • @rollie206
    @rollie206 12 лет назад +24

    Oh my goodness Michael - great initiative!! Thanks to you we now have a little piece of Singapore history captured on film......

  • @woodennature
    @woodennature 9 лет назад +34

    I love this! You have a great eye and a wonderful illustration of Singapore to its more authentic days.

    • @mohdyusuffsharif944
      @mohdyusuffsharif944 5 лет назад +1

      Now fake?...yeah those days authentic smiles...authentic gestures...authentic friendliness now the money has dominated everything.

    • @ezannedennis9399
      @ezannedennis9399 4 года назад +1

      thank you for preserving singapore older days omg this is so wonderful

    • @raypratt3611
      @raypratt3611 4 года назад

      @@mohdyusuffsharif944 so sad bro,they have destroyed our world,we are supposed to be able to live off our resources,but theyve taken it all away and now everyone depends on their diabolical governments,give us chemical coated foods,bad water and make sure were sick all the time so they can make BILLIONS off us in medical and pharmacy drugs!!its the 1% of the 1% that have EVERYTHING and are now after our souls cuz theres nothing left to take,its truly a LUCIFERIAN WORLD NOW!!

  • @softwaresplease
    @softwaresplease 4 года назад

    For some reason this video popsup today in my timeline.
    How much transformation, how much hardwork has been put by the founders to reach the greatest level... Great..great.

  • @HassanHabib2
    @HassanHabib2 4 года назад +1

    I was 3 years old. This clip pulled out all sorts of emotions from me

  • @AmbientWalking
    @AmbientWalking 4 года назад +13

    It’s incredible that there is absolutely not one strand of this Singapore in this recording that exists today. How things have changed.

    • @ctr24k
      @ctr24k 4 года назад +1

      yeah.. I was looking for any landmark of that filming took place, but found nothing

  • @cawan6746
    @cawan6746 4 года назад

    I love all this vedio, money can't buy ,good you shoot it for us to see how Singapore was. I love old Singapore style.

  • @cheramannan
    @cheramannan 8 лет назад +8

    Michael, many thanks for encapsulating all that character that depicted the charm of this place. We have certainly thrown the baby out with the bath-water in the massive urban spring cleaning.

  • @RajaPamungkas87
    @RajaPamungkas87 2 года назад +1

    I am from Indonesia, but I work for a multinational company whereby HQ is located in SG. I often flew to SG for a meeting or vacation, and because of this, I started admiring this country.

  • @Laren1982
    @Laren1982 4 года назад

    Thank you for the awesome videos. I have searched the old videos and it did found nothing. U gave me hope today and able to see the past! Looking forward for more!

  • @ajisenramen888
    @ajisenramen888 4 года назад +4

    An actual recording of opium pipe smokers, that is so rare and definitely needs to be preserved.

  • @nyonya02
    @nyonya02 4 года назад +2

    Thanks, Michael for the clips! Memory lanes..🙏🙏🙏

  • @hongminghean8218
    @hongminghean8218 4 года назад +3

    Michael , thank you for the good memories of old Singapore . Appreciate your effort 👍🙏

  • @bermuda747
    @bermuda747 3 года назад +5

    Remarkable that these buildings lasted so long - most of 'Old Singapore' had long gone by '83 .. good that Pinsler had the presence of mind to film before the demolition. I believe he's still alive and living between S'pore & Penang. North Boat Quay as it was 'back in the day' can be seen in the film 'Saint Jack' and the Hawaii 5-O episodes 'The Year of the Horse' (both filmed in 1978)

  • @drchildsmile7224
    @drchildsmile7224 4 года назад +5

    Beautiful, you have captured a slice of time and history through such a sensitive lens. It almost feels like you are a local. Please share more !

  • @KevinWithAY
    @KevinWithAY 4 года назад +7

    80s Singapore really looks like it has heart and character to the country

  • @dragb6281
    @dragb6281 4 года назад +3

    This video is gem, a piece of our history. Thank u!

  • @kumars6144
    @kumars6144 4 года назад +3

    Miss those good old days...life was much simple and the feel was so great.. so sad that things have to change to this level😕

  • @SingSnags
    @SingSnags 12 лет назад

    A long-forgotten Singapore - one my niece and nephew have never seen before! Thanks very much!

  • @berttkltan
    @berttkltan 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for bringing back my childhood memories

  • @boldmaster5467
    @boldmaster5467 4 года назад +1

    Singapore old days are now the present day for other countries! Simple yet joyful

  • @johanbusy
    @johanbusy 4 года назад

    Dank je wel voor het delen van deze mooie historische beelden!

  • @Potomacstud
    @Potomacstud 11 лет назад +5

    Priceless , thank you , Mike

  • @alanyong9242
    @alanyong9242 4 года назад +3

    Wow, beautiful video, brings back lots of memories. I think people were more down to earth those days, not so pretentious. A city with soul those days.

  • @G_5POT
    @G_5POT 2 года назад

    Wow what an Archive! Beautiful work🔥

  • @ziakhan-qw9zi
    @ziakhan-qw9zi 2 года назад

    I am living in Australia since last 13 years but, I always spend my holidays in Singapore, I like Singapore v much but, it's nice to see Clark Quey area, I couldn't believe that Singapore developed v quick.

  • @sese75kenneth12
    @sese75kenneth12 4 года назад +11

    Hi Michael, the Chinese old temple along the shophouses is now a Hooters restaurant that occupies that shophouse. The old area of Boat Quay and Clarke Quay has been refurbished and already becomes a night life hang out for many singaporean. Central Mall is actually opposite the Chinese temple which used to be a block of HDB flats that being demolished in the early of 1980s which is featured in your another clip of Boat Quay demolishment in 1983.

    • @hauts1
      @hauts1 Год назад

      How times have changed ..🤣

  • @mrgongbenwuzang
    @mrgongbenwuzang 2 года назад

    我竟然可以耐心地從頭看完,因為極有電影感,一組組,都有情感與故事。讚👍!

  • @ahersa392
    @ahersa392 2 года назад +1

    I miss Golden days were people who work hard..traditions, culture.. Peace and liveliness..healthy and active ..unlike now ...

  • @OperafanSingapore
    @OperafanSingapore 13 лет назад +6

    Another priceless video from you. Thank you for uploading.

  • @maaacccreee3543
    @maaacccreee3543 5 лет назад +2

    I love watching old video clips because I feel that Im in the time machine that going to the past.

  • @blossomingplum
    @blossomingplum 6 лет назад +9

    Recently visited Singapore in Oct 18. Oh the vast difference!

  • @spinerocker
    @spinerocker 6 лет назад +4

    Great work! I knew videos aged better with time. I'll try to follow your documentary and I'm gonna make one for my hometown.

  • @KUMANTONG-4D-POWER
    @KUMANTONG-4D-POWER 12 лет назад +94

    Those days , when I was still a kid, there is a feel of Real Singapore. Look at what Singapore has become today? You cannot feel "Singapore" anymore.

    • @limrosemary8536
      @limrosemary8536 4 года назад +2

      Super Kumantong u wont even feel cities in Guangong ... there are few places that look like tis

    • @tmgasia
      @tmgasia 4 года назад +8

      hopefully more wake up and stop voting for the pap.... they've lost their moral high ground and have become self serving

    • @nelc2399
      @nelc2399 4 года назад +4

      Felt like either in manila or bombay at times

    • @flappypunch8334
      @flappypunch8334 4 года назад +10

      You wanna live in third world country?

    • @asirf.3634
      @asirf.3634 4 года назад +2

      I mean now i go singapore all the kids my age are decked in gucci balenciaga

  • @helloogieee
    @helloogieee 2 года назад +1

    This is the year I was born. It's surreal to watch how people were living during this time.

  • @crosbyong
    @crosbyong 4 года назад +4

    Wow! Thank you for the memories. How certain are you this was filmed in 1983? I know for a fact that Sheares Bridge (end of video) was completed in 1981. Most of us forget how rapidly we have changed to become what we are today. Some may think that portions of your video were ore-independence (ie 1965). Surreal to watch even though I am a living witness of these transformation.

  • @stevenjonathan5432
    @stevenjonathan5432 5 лет назад +14

    Many vilages at indonesia are still like old singapore today

  • @nfs7799
    @nfs7799 12 лет назад +2

    MichaelRogge....I feel sorry u gotta put up with so much nonsense comments despite sharing such wonderful archive footage. I appreciate it and thank u

  • @boonkeng4079
    @boonkeng4079 2 года назад

    After watching, remind me my childhood days, full memory

  • @nadrini300
    @nadrini300 3 года назад

    Beautiful. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Zog696
    @Zog696 2 года назад

    Magical little video.

  • @michaelijsbrand
    @michaelijsbrand  11 лет назад +56

    No, I'm a Dutchman living in Amsterdam, Netherlands

    • @michaelijsbrand
      @michaelijsbrand  4 года назад +7

      @Aaron Tan I'm interested in all countries in the world, whatever size.

    • @jamest6822
      @jamest6822 4 года назад +3

      @Aaron Tan What a question......what does the country's size have to do with anything? Be thankful that there was someone able and willing to document daily life and scenes like these before they're lost to memory and then to history.

    • @penguine3388
      @penguine3388 4 года назад

      Dutch :Nijntje:Miffy 💋~🐇

    • @marksamuelbeck
      @marksamuelbeck 4 года назад

      And I am from KOLKATA (CALCUTTA), INDIA.

  • @bachieboo1208
    @bachieboo1208 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for making this video!!

  • @mitsurikanroji9548
    @mitsurikanroji9548 Год назад

    i love the 80s can see the old building with the new hdb very nice contrast

  • @michaelijsbrand
    @michaelijsbrand  12 лет назад +7

    Thanks for the addional info.

  • @dargon1084
    @dargon1084 8 месяцев назад

    thanks for sharing this treasure of a video

  • @mad_in_2020
    @mad_in_2020 6 лет назад +1

    Wow, Singapore was beautiful then and now also.

  • @adrielsg100
    @adrielsg100 4 года назад +1

    Thank you. These are nostalgic.

  • @lieny
    @lieny 4 года назад

    Such a beautiful video, such a gem, thank you sir

  • @malthus101
    @malthus101 4 года назад +3

    Very nice - I loved the 80s!

  • @azizismail4612
    @azizismail4612 4 года назад +1

    In the year 1956 to 1965, my second uncle stay with my late grandfather at Geylang Rd, Singapore, our neighbours are all Chinese and few Malay family, one day while my late grandfather goes to work, suddenly my second uncle fell sick and have a fever, and he could not attend to his afternoon school session, latter my Chinese neighbour came in to my house and this two ladies are both sibling take care of me from morning up to my late grandfather came back home around 6 - 7 pm, this both ladies together with my late grandfather bring me to the nearest Chinese Temple, second uncle was ok after midnight the next morning, very sorry I could not continue more this story as it cause very sad for me, ok thank you to my Singaporean who knows me.

  • @liekiokling3552
    @liekiokling3552 4 года назад

    哈 往日的新加坡。。往事不堪回首,喜欢新加坡,不知何时才能再去。。👍👍👍🙏❤️❤️❤️😁谢谢分享

  • @felix121984
    @felix121984 4 года назад +2

    Developed, industrious yet humble days of Singapore.

  • @serena13100
    @serena13100 4 года назад

    Thank you for sharing, that is my childhood, some of the faces look familiar.

  • @Pawpaw71
    @Pawpaw71 6 лет назад +1

    The year i was born. Seems so much calmer and relaxed compared to now...

  • @limyp64
    @limyp64 12 лет назад +2

    Many thanks Mr Rogge !!!

  • @thetonedeaftenors
    @thetonedeaftenors 11 лет назад +1

    Amazing video Michael! I was born in Singapore in 1986 and my mother was still living there when this clip was taken. I'm amazed at how old-fashioned the neighbourhood looks, it could be from the 1950s or 60s. And still smoking opium! Who would have known? Contrast it with the shots of the high-rises! Thanks for all the videos!

  • @02logan
    @02logan 4 года назад +2

    Wow! Incredible indeed.. THank you for this :)

  • @Forty3Stories
    @Forty3Stories 2 года назад

    Singapore today is so much different. Amazing transformation yet I can see how the food, culture and activities still same in the singaporean society. I hope there are few lucky people out there who experienced both worlds.

  • @Bella-wp7wz
    @Bella-wp7wz Год назад

    Thank you for this ❤

  • @bryanchong3746
    @bryanchong3746 6 лет назад +13

    Life so much simpler those days.

  • @mikeyu5004
    @mikeyu5004 2 года назад +2

    All it takes is one generation to throw away what the previous generation worked so hard to achieve. Very sad and bittersweet

  • @michaelijsbrand
    @michaelijsbrand  11 лет назад +5

    Thanks for all the info. Useful for viewers.

  • @watchjunkies2530
    @watchjunkies2530 Год назад

    You're so great for making this happen! Hope time travelled was exist I want so bad see the past

  • @wong517
    @wong517 8 месяцев назад

    this type of enviroment is more happy, now singapore is totally super stressful and super expersive to live on , i really hope this type of enviroment can come back😢

  • @hillaryedmund6122
    @hillaryedmund6122 4 года назад +3

    Simply said, good old singapore, for me, singapore during late 90s and early 2000s are the best years.

    • @Jinke888
      @Jinke888 4 года назад

      I agree! My late teens, early 20s

  • @zhixuanchen6914
    @zhixuanchen6914 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you sir for your legacy. You’ll be missed 😌

  • @uspiiiireturn4018
    @uspiiiireturn4018 8 лет назад

    Wow... 1983. I was sec 4... Cannot remember seeing 50% of things in your video. Must be busy studying o-level....thanks for sharing.

  • @clarence8353
    @clarence8353 Год назад

    Dear Michael, thank you so much 🙏 for sharing all these precious footages. I wonder if you have any of the old Clifford Pier during the 70s? Wishing you good health 👍

  • @Chan-fi9bu
    @Chan-fi9bu 2 года назад

    I was born on 1974 so after watching this video bring back those childhood memories🙏

  • @ellipurn
    @ellipurn 6 лет назад +4

    I was born in the same year the video was filmed. This was my parents' Singapore. Some of these do look familiar to me though, particularly the precursor to Comic Sans at 1:47.

  • @jedmitter
    @jedmitter 11 лет назад

    Great stuff. I grew up in Singapore 1967~84. Will definitely search for your other clips
    This really shows the way it used to be.

  • @kirankhare5630
    @kirankhare5630 7 месяцев назад

    We lived at Hillview and before that Jurong East. Been back a few times . Changes are very common there now.

  • @sinthailim4848
    @sinthailim4848 4 года назад

    Hi Sir. My father worked at 55 North Boat Quay pretty much of his life after WWII. My mother (before they were married) lived in the upper floor of the shophouse. They met and got married. I am familiar with this area though I do not recognise anyone in this clip because I only visited the area during my school holidays. I was looking with anticipation to recognise some faces such a coffee stall operator or a noodle seller but to no avail. Allow me to make a small comment. This is a Teochew (a dialect in the southern province of Guangdong) enclave but the music chosen to accompany the clip is Cantonese (also from Guangdong Province).

  • @VijayRagMalimNawar
    @VijayRagMalimNawar 5 лет назад +9

    I was there in Singapore during 80's. It's sad to see that Singapore now lost his heritage by overdeveloping the country. But Malaysia still maintaining it's balance to his people to decide either to live in city or rural area.

    • @dobmaster4412
      @dobmaster4412 2 года назад

      What happened

    • @Colegegreen
      @Colegegreen 2 года назад +1

      Not enough land and over populated.

    • @huangzb8060
      @huangzb8060 2 года назад

      We love the advance and drvelopments of Singapore and we pity you guys in Malaysia still living in poverty and in old rundown slums!!

    • @syafsmith5085
      @syafsmith5085 2 года назад +3

      Of course Malaysia can maintain a balance. All can happen when you have land.

  • @xiaodhanan1
    @xiaodhanan1 10 лет назад +68

    olden days singapore was the best' but sadly we could never go back to the kampong days as we are too over developed

    • @chrave1956
      @chrave1956 4 года назад +13

      xiaodhanan Want to go back to Olden Days ? Live in Laos , Vietnam ....grow up .

    • @xiaodhanan1
      @xiaodhanan1 4 года назад +1

      @@chrave1956 stfu old hag. I was just stating my opinion.

    • @nickryan6787
      @nickryan6787 4 года назад +1

      @@xiaodhanan1 OK m8, you had your points but be a bit chill can ya? Keep calm mate

    • @xiaodhanan1
      @xiaodhanan1 4 года назад

      @Aaron Tan omg the famous aaron tan AH BENG!!

    • @foghornd1059
      @foghornd1059 3 года назад

      @@chrave1956 fuck you