If you haven't placed down the Observatory yet one of those tall mountain peaks would make an ideal spot, especially as there's gonna be less light pollution in the National park
Mayor Biffa at the budget meeting: we need a funicular. Council: ok. Heres some money. B:gee thanks. Now I need some more money. C: why so? B: I want to build a mountain to fit the Funicular 😂
B: Now I need even more money C: Why now... B: I want to build a road alongside the mountain and highway C: What about a tunnel? B: A road alongside the highway will be cheaper! C: Ok...here’s some money... [Some time passes] B: I need more money C: Good god why... B: I need to terraform the mountain so my road along the highway fits better
You realize it doesn't have to be realistic, right? It's not a replica of something real, he's doing whatever he likes, it's called fantasy. Pretty common in gaming.
Reckon at the bottom it needs something akin to an old styled historical village, maybe switch the funicular on this side to the older style, Olde Tealand?
I think you've put the funiculars and the cable cars too high of the ground, if you had them a bit closer then it would look slightly more realistic. But really love the idea, love the lights up the mountain. Would love to see an observatory up there. Park name : Whittards Peak or Peaktea Blinders?
Since that small area is locked from all sides including the highway, you could make a hamlet with its own church and all. A village surviving on selling souvenirs
these cable cars are extremely high. i live in austria, so i know have used quite a few of them, and i can tell you, they are nowhere near as tall. also, tehy follow the terrain much more closely, and at the start and end, there are usually 2 or 3 pillars right next to each other, so the cart doesn't crash into the mountain
I love the way Biffa's brain is wired. In stead of using MoveIt for the last bit of rail section, he just creates an entire new mountaintop. Now that's creativity
@@dacoda85 yeah I realised that as soon as I pressed send but I couldn’t find edit button lol and now as soon as I send this I find the edit button lmao
Remember to put Park entrances between each of the cable car stops/funicular train stations and the national park paths, so people remember to pay for entrance 😉
I'm pretending they paid the fee when they bought their cable car ticket. Like, free transport in New Tealand except for the cable cars cuz you're going into a National Park. Otherwise, it'll bug me 😅
Sad though that the stations and substations require actual hardened roads for it to connect up to; for something that goes up a mountain with pedestrians mostly, you'd think a dirt path would be enough.
@@refreshfr The one in the Cairngorms is neither straight nor on a constant slope. Very strange to ride in. Also some of the pillars are at least a couple of stories tall.
You can have steering wheels below the track that manages how the cable turns with the track, but yes, the most common funicular is one straight line. Most are even one track with a meeting section on the middle.
I think cable cars is a good idea. But making paths to the top, and placing the cable cars at lower peaks/mountain sides, would make the natural reserver so much more natural.
Suggestion for the new area - a low-density neighbourhood in European style. Just to set it apart from the rest. A picturesque hillside village. Also, name suggestion for the new furnicular area - STeap Hill!
The area below PG Tips would be awesome as an ultimate beach/water sports and hotel resort. I bet there are loads of assets for that. It's away from the industry, close to the airport and as it's in a valley it would be isolated from the hubbub of the city. Might want to bury the highway though so you can build right up to the coast and create a beach?
Mod suggestion: Node spacer You can now make your cable cars go across a valley without supports. Or, you can simply remove the nodes in the middle with NMT. One thing I find annoying with the game is that the game forces you to put pillars every 96 metres, but this becomes a problem when you build a cable car across a valley with two hills on either side. If you run the cable car from one hill to the other, if the valley is wider than 96 metres, it will create an extra node in the middle, creating a dip in the wires. This looks really bad, and normally, there would be a large gap with no pillars when crossing a valley or gorge. You can remove the nodes in the middle with NMT, or, you can space the nodes further apart when building the wires using Node Spacer. Alternatively, you can drag the nodes out with Move it, but this process is rather finncky.
I think it would be great if you re-wild some of this space. You set out to make a national park, and in the process made a river with concrete walls and put transport across the top of the mountain. I think if the funicular railway went to just below the peak, you could have a great little park area a bit like Snowdon, with a path up that connects to the railway before getting to the peak. And maybe using the dirt roads instead of tarmac. Love the content though Biffa, keep it up!
The Quay Walls look splendid! A "trick" the Dutch do is: lower the unused land behind the river a bit, so in case of flood, the water has more space and hopefully won't go to the airport. It doesn't matter when unused land floods. Disadvantage is that it takes up a lot of spaces + requires a second levee/floodwall/dike behind the lowered land along the river ("uiterwaard") And the funicular is a wondeful idea too :)
@@aarongallaway7005 yeah, exactly. You sometimes see cattle too, but on the outskirts of the city of course. (and there's a higher located shed or stable in case of flooding)
I'm so happy you turned the fires back on biffa! 😂😂 thanks for doing my request! The new area at the end should be modern futuristic buildings, then build an old town somewhere. Connecting it to the other areas
I would suggest three things: Firstly, for the small roal pieces up in the mountains, you could use those pedestrian roads, as they do allow vehicular traffic. Then ban everything besides services and of course also ban parking, then snake the road down through tunnels (to have them out of sight. Hilltop cablecar or funicular stops don't necessarily have road access in real life, but the game wants it to, so tunnels are a work around, similar to the tunnel connecting the prison island). Secondly, add a park side gate at the cable car stop(s) along the way. Thirdly, run those modded local electrical lines up the mountain. I don't remember if you ever used them, but look at City Planner's Clearwater County series if you don't know them. The huge electrical lines would ruin the view of the mountains.
Just put a water source - at a lower level - right below the dam to draw down the water to a better (i.e. lower) level. That way you don't need those HUGE quays (levees, actually) all along the river.
For once I'm going to have to disagree with you. Most funicular railways I've been on stick as close to the terrain as possible, rather than being mounted high on concrete pedestals. I think it would blend in with the scenery more too. The Peak 'Tram' in Hong Kong is an excellent example. A straight (due to the cable) ground level funicular railway.
13:15 - This tallest peak could be a great place for some kind of built in viewpoint, a cafe for some tourists like the cairngorms. Quay walls may work as a base edge for a viewing area. 16:25 - My concern is services for some of these places like the funicular station at the top and the cable car station by the dam. Maybe some 1x1 services assets could help there. Like a little security office for crime.
Please make like a self sustaining small village full of wanderers, travelers and pilgrims and add some castle ruins along the mountain tops or something like that! this would be so cool :D
The new area could be a bigger area dedicated to leisure and tourism activities, Teawis spend the day at leisure, visiting sights, then take the funicular up to the cable cars and then home.
Biffa while building the last road access for the first funicular line: Let´s make it realistic and go around the mountain. Also Biffa: Let´s adjust the top of the mountain to my perfectly steep funicular line! Haha love it! Keep it up man! Congrats on winning the Red Bull Event
Mt. Washington in New Hampshire, USA has a very similar setup with a train you can take to the summit. My wife and I rode it back in 2013. it was incredible.
My suggestion for the empty space is to make a semi-rural village with a focus on open space and nature, which fits in well with the mountainous nature park theme. I'm thinking you could do this by zoning housing with empty spaces between each house, and by using fences and landscaping it could look like large properties with big yards and nice gardens etc. then adding parks and a few shops along a main street could create a nice quiet village centre with kind of happy small community vibe.
It would be really cool to make some mountain bike trails, maybe you could find a way of making some cool turns and obstacles for a path that only allows bikes.
I love the idea of the new area being a small rural town that is a tourist town. Like some ski resort or beach towns... they built up around one feature (mountain and funicular) and just all live there to support that tourist attraction + few shops and restaurants. Maybe one or two small hotels/resorts
I was actually on the Stoosbahn yesterday so it was cool seeing this today 😂. Fwiw that's the steepest funicular in the world at 47.7°. I think I saw some of the angles here at 65+?
That is some massive pillars on the feniculars, i would lower the plattform at the top, that way the connection towards the cablecars would be better. :) Like the idea though. 👍🏼 And gr8 content as always!
I have to say. Most of the time, I'm more mind-boggled by the beauty shots than anything else and it makes me want to pick up my city again. And then I get impatient and sad until the next video comes out.
I suggest a small town with fishing industry and one of the dlc factories in that new area, and to call it Brewmont as its right at the foot of the mountain 🧐
The (compressed air) Mékarski funicular was the first version of Montmartre funicular in Paris, opened in the early 1900s before being replaced by an eletrical funicular in 1937 (and remodelled in 1991). Mékarski's specialty was compressed air power technology, he also designed trams that way for Paris and Nantes, those were rather quickly replaced by electrical trams due to loss or air pressure leading to trams being blocked and lower nds of slopes... Thx Biffa for the AVO mode, I had those funiculars popping in my train rotation messing everything uo and was about to delete the mod altogether... Problem with your funiculars; they gice access to the natural reserve from the top for free... You should consider to add a secondary entrance near the top station as well... The Hill Top funiculat station should be right next to the slope for the track to depart sloped immediately. The ridge you chose is not steep enough for the funicular to look right, it would have fitted the cable car better there. You really should keep the mountain top free of anything because of its "Astonoshing Beauty status", just saying. It DOES ruin the view... 15:24 I'd build the cable car on the little plateau near the natural reserve path if I were you. So you are doing like Violet le Duc wanting to increase the height of Mont Blanc back in the 19th Century... that guy was crazy, he thought that the mountain wasn't high enough ! The Funicular station shouldn't be built on top of the mountain to preserve the scenery, just one step lower. Thpse wind turbines ruin the scenery as well... Biffa, it is not because you have prebuilt lines on a map that you doesn't have to modify them or add tracks on the side... 35:14, Consider adding slipways from the high way directly to the road leading to the Lower station, including one from the highway interchange to avoid unecessary trips frhough the first roundabout. Also a train station parallel to the track near the Highway would be a nice addition and a bus running from it to the funicular.
I dont know if any of my fellow norwegians have commented this, but in Norway we have something called the Loen Skylift. It is actually a cable car going to the top of the mountain, and a restaurant at the top. Worth checking out either way. Also there is a thing called Trollstigen (The troll ladder), which is a road that climbs up the mountain. The easiest thing is to make a tunnel straight through to connect either side of a mountain, but I think it will look great in your city aswell.
In Norway we have a lot of spiral tunnel roads in order to climb safely UP steep Mountains with motor veichles. There is one on the way up to Vøringsfossen and one on the way down to Røldal. I think you could easily create some of your own to get road acsess to the funicular and cable car stops
So, I went all gruesome in my mind for your animal farms….Tea-Bone Steaks. I don’t expect you to use it, but I figured you’d appreciate the tea-based pun.
I ***LOVE*** REVO's funicular assets! Use them all the time in mountainous builds...One problem I noticed, though, is that the funicular trains will spawn on the normal rails as intercity trains and slow down that entire network....and you just made me feel very dumb by explaining the very simple fix for it, lol! Thank you so much!!!
Just caught up with the New Tealand binge! For the dam, how about 'Teaver Dam' ? Is there a way to make volcanos (or former ones)? Could be named Kettle Mountain
Love the cable car along the top. I think a little town that turns into a tourist trap would fit nicely at the bottom of the funicular. Like a seaside town in Devon or Cornwall that brings out all the grockles in summer.
30:50 "semi-realistic-ish" like everything I've ever built 😂😂 Also, i feel like Phil's been influencing how everyone builds (and ofc just as I start typing this I get a notification for a 5B1C video SuperVinlin), but that's fine really, it's nice to be able to see the world through the eyes of someone that's aware of how things are built, and he does a really good job of explaining the thought processes
biffa im begging, please turn the roads on top of the mountains into rural roads, the tarmac/concrete roads really dont go with the natural beauty of the park XD
27:12 The ghost of Myrtle has come from Verde Beach to show her displeasure over your lack of fire response. Also, in the new, yet-to-be-designed area, consider extending the train line across (or under) the highway to allow more access to downtown.
In real life a cable car like that would be more of a tourist attraction than a way of transportation, imagine that view from flying high above the peaks. You'd better not be scared of hights lol.
4:05 "it holds 30 i did not think that was realistic at all" we use these in Bogota and other cities around Colombia for the Andes. some places you get packed in like battery farm chickens and you might get 20 people per carriage in two or three carriages with no seating, that is when you have greedy owners of them, but other wise you are looking at 10 people standing per carriage for short journeys or 6 to 8 people seated for longer runs. tealand will love them
Hey Biffa since the new area is a nice beach front next to the Funicular. Maybe having a proper beach front next to it could increase the attractiveness of the entire area and attract more people
Great new asset package! Perhaps a fence on the mountain side of the last road built to help protect from rock slides?? How about turning the new area into a tourism and leisure area so all the noise is kept away from the residents. Throw in a bit of IT cluster for making a bit of cash and offset the unique buildings and hotels. Take the metro from the airport and milk your tourists of all their vacation funds. 😉
New Tealand Governing Board: "Uh oh! We measured the mountain wrong and bought 1.3 miles of funicular track. What will we ever do?" Biffa: "Bring in dirt and rock to make the mountain taller, of course." LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
I would go for a mount rushmore kinda thing inside the mountain side. Or maybe setup like the Crazy Horse Memorial. Seems like the perfect spot people would build a massive monument without really disrupting the rest of the mountain range. Btw, love the series so far, think this might be the most enjoyable one so far
The beacons are lit!!! Oh my giddy aunt! Please make a town that looks like Gondor from LotR, I'm sure you can pull it off! And it will look absolutely amazing on one of your mountains!
For your new area maybe something like a 'Partea' town. A place to have fun. Fireworks all night. Get in a 'Fun'icular. Have the people party! 'Partea!
As a fan of Sir Paul, and as someone who enjoyed "Give My Regards To Broad Street," I got a sad little twinge when you deleted that bit of road at the top.
Here in India, I visited a tea plantation in state named "Timi Tea State" it was on Himalayan mountains so if you could name one park after it it'd be amazing
For the new area you should consider modern low density (or even eco) housing and a few low density shops. A road bridge across the dual carriage way and rail line could link this to the coast where a seaside leisure & tourism district could be built. utilising the area with the quays to function as a marina. A station on the rail line would compliment the existing public transport options & a tram could run around the area connecting the various facilities
You may already have come to this, but if you widen the river downstream of the dam at the point where it splits around the island at the mouth, you'll get better flow. That's the narrow point and if there's more water than the river can take AT THAT POINT, then it will spill over it's banks somewhere upstream. If you make sure it continues to widen it as it goes seaward, and doesn't have any narrow points to constrain the flow (literal bottlenecks), you should be able to lower the quay walls and land back to where they were before
I know that at the moment there aren't a lot of trees in that new space you mention in the last seconds, but the funicular makes me think about Austrian villages where they also would have giant tree/wood industrial plants where all the pine trees were skinned for cabin construction. So, maybe that new area could be like a woodworkers village? With lots of wooden/pine detailing. (The plus side of that would be, that I love watching you do industrial zones)
Growing up in continental Europe I've seen quite a few funiculars in my life, but I don't think I've ever seen any on stilts, usually they eat into a mountain side. But looking it up the "Stoosbahn" this is based on does start out on them it seems. One thing I've thought was weird with the asset was that the cabins aren't angled like the old school funiculars are that you showed and the pics online of the Stoosbahn do show them angled so that looks like an oversight by the asset creator but it's very cool still. Random trivia: the German name for funicular is "Seilbahn" which translates to "cable train" or "rope train", but sometimes you can see them called "Bergbahn" which translates to "mountain train", however "Bergbahn" is a very loose description and can be many things, a train, a funicular or a gondola lift (cable car). So all Biffa needs is like an old school looking (steam) locomotive and he would have an entire Bergbahn set 😂
Not all Funicular railways are straight and steep and elevated. Some do follow terrain curvature and elevation. For instance the Snowden Funicular is just a very steep and windy ground level railway.
The funicular with the barrel-shaped carriages is actually kind of cool. A traditional funicular must have constant slope, because the carriages are designed to have a level cabin when placed on that slope - but the barrel version is designed to allow the cabin to adjust to follow the vehicle to follow a varying slope. Unfortunately the mod doesn't seem to have found a way to implement that part. Here's the Wikipedia page about the real Stoosbahn... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoosbahn
Instead of the fence between the road and highway, how about using the highway with sound barriers? I think it is the zoo fence that has a concrete base and would work better for protection, too.
Getting things as close to the ground as possible is the most cheap and realistic as I don’t think a line that high could easily deal with the ballast. It’s better to carve into the mountain like they do irl.
I got a shout out in a Biffa video! I’m famous! Really love the futuristic addition to New Tealand and can’t wait to see the small community grow around it!
What a fun build. The combo of Funicular and cable cars is something I would never have though of. If you’re interested…Johnstown Pennsylvania has an old school funicular train. It’s called the incline plane. It uses those other types of train cars that you showed. I also think a small parking lot by the end stations of the funicular stations would be a bit more realistic. But what do I know?
It would be so cool to extend the park that is above the dam to the rest of the mountains and mixing it with facilities such as an observatory or so. It would bring so much life to them. Maybe a coal powerplant could fit somewhere too, with a big jesus
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If you haven't placed down the Observatory yet one of those tall mountain peaks would make an ideal spot, especially as there's gonna be less light pollution in the National park
With one of the old fasioned trains taiking you to the topp. 😄
A Mounteantop Observateary sounds great!
Hell yeah, any mountain needs an observatory
Be sure the Observatory doesn't look out for asteroids! We can not risking it being burned down by an angry mob. :-D
I think the lone mountain on the other side of the map would be perfect for an observatory
"Hillside Trail" should be called "Spilled Tea Memorial Park" in memory of the great dam disaster of 2146
Mayor Biffa at the budget meeting: we need a funicular.
Council: ok. Heres some money.
B:gee thanks. Now I need some more money.
C: why so?
B: I want to build a mountain to fit the Funicular 😂
🤣
B: Now I need even more money
C: Why now...
B: I want to build a road alongside the mountain and highway
C: What about a tunnel?
B: A road alongside the highway will be cheaper!
C: Ok...here’s some money...
[Some time passes]
B: I need more money
C: Good god why...
B: I need to terraform the mountain so my road along the highway fits better
@@zachjohnson9335 😂😂
Haha
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Surely the funicular line has to be called Steep rail, seeing as steep is also a tea reference for letting tea brew longer?
Or just StEAp rail
@@alienamzal477 i did double check how steep was spelt, but they both work in this case 😊
sTEAp rail!
StEAp Rail
Funiculars usually tend to follow the terrain once away from the station and aren't raised a 1km above the ground... just saying🙆🏻♂️
Yeah. And he shouldnt have removed the old dam i think its more beutiful.
@@u1k4 Yeah but the old dam wasn't functional, and he was finding it hard to edit the road on it
You realize it doesn't have to be realistic, right? It's not a replica of something real, he's doing whatever he likes, it's called fantasy. Pretty common in gaming.
thats definitely region specific, ive been on a few that just go straight up a mountainside but i agree WAY too high off the ground in this video
This really tickled me :D , thank you. The furniculars and a couple of the cable car supports are way too high, looks awesome though!
Reckon at the bottom it needs something akin to an old styled historical village, maybe switch the funicular on this side to the older style, Olde Tealand?
Twinings Township: For the historical village.
Previous episode: "respect the topology"
This episode: "lol nope"
I think you've put the funiculars and the cable cars too high of the ground, if you had them a bit closer then it would look slightly more realistic. But really love the idea, love the lights up the mountain. Would love to see an observatory up there.
Park name : Whittards Peak or Peaktea Blinders?
I agree. The first funiculars (well v2 of it) is the only one not absurdly high off the ground
Since that small area is locked from all sides including the highway, you could make a hamlet with its own church and all. A village surviving on selling souvenirs
Exactly what i was thinking
And the National Road Biffa built could continue into the city
Reminds me of Montserrat, Catalonia - especially with the funicular!
these cable cars are extremely high. i live in austria, so i know have used quite a few of them, and i can tell you, they are nowhere near as tall. also, tehy follow the terrain much more closely, and at the start and end, there are usually 2 or 3 pillars right next to each other, so the cart doesn't crash into the mountain
17:30 that actually was a pretty realistic funicular. no weird poles, just a rail line following the terrain - as a funicular would do ;-)
I love the way Biffa's brain is wired. In stead of using MoveIt for the last bit of rail section, he just creates an entire new mountaintop. Now that's creativity
You can name one of the mountain peaks “One Tea Hill” (One Tree Hill - which is an actually hill in NZ )
Or one tea hill lol
@@georgegoddard1550 …..that was the suggestion.
@@dacoda85 yeah I realised that as soon as I pressed send but I couldn’t find edit button lol and now as soon as I send this I find the edit button lmao
@@georgegoddard1550 😂
@@georgegoddard1550 lol fair enough. One of those days 😋
Remember to put Park entrances between each of the cable car stops/funicular train stations and the national park paths, so people remember to pay for entrance 😉
I'm pretending they paid the fee when they bought their cable car ticket. Like, free transport in New Tealand except for the cable cars cuz you're going into a National Park. Otherwise, it'll bug me 😅
That first one wasn’t even close to being remotely realistic. Glad you’ve scrapped it and went with the second one.
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Sad though that the stations and substations require actual hardened roads for it to connect up to; for something that goes up a mountain with pedestrians mostly, you'd think a dirt path would be enough.
First one went up an obvious hiking trail.
Realistic? Mmm.. Wouldn't call a million concrete pillars that high very realistic
Even the cable car poles are absurd
@@3dmaster205 The dirt road could also be used, although it doesn't look as nice as the dirt paths.
The palm like trees at the top of mountains look so out of place - replacing them with either a pine or a low scrubby bush would look more realistic.
Biffa just loves to make his cable car tracks way too high on the air.
Same with the train xD
I think dirt roads on the tops of the mountains would be a lost less invasive and look a lot better alongside the dirt paths already up there.
So many Biffa videos this week, such a good week!
Funicular railways are typically straight right? As they’re being pulled by a cable? Edit: just saw your second one, looks much more realistic!
Yes. He could have used cable car to map out the path for it.
Also they're usually on the ground / very close to the ground. In this they're as high as a 20-story building, if not more !
@@refreshfr The one in the Cairngorms is neither straight nor on a constant slope. Very strange to ride in. Also some of the pillars are at least a couple of stories tall.
No they’re not. I hope he’s going to fix that…
You can have steering wheels below the track that manages how the cable turns with the track, but yes, the most common funicular is one straight line. Most are even one track with a meeting section on the middle.
This episode really had its ups and downs. I think Biffa was just stringing us along.
I think cable cars is a good idea. But making paths to the top, and placing the cable cars at lower peaks/mountain sides, would make the natural reserver so much more natural.
Suggestion for the new area - a low-density neighbourhood in European style. Just to set it apart from the rest. A picturesque hillside village. Also, name suggestion for the new furnicular area - STeap Hill!
Biffa: *building a fence*
Highway with sound barriers: am i a joke to you?
Agreed. And the fences don't even suppress noise.
@@rafaelsodre_eachday nor do they protect motorists on the national road from cars flying off the highway
The area below PG Tips would be awesome as an ultimate beach/water sports and hotel resort. I bet there are loads of assets for that. It's away from the industry, close to the airport and as it's in a valley it would be isolated from the hubbub of the city. Might want to bury the highway though so you can build right up to the coast and create a beach?
Mod suggestion: Node spacer
You can now make your cable cars go across a valley without supports. Or, you can simply remove the nodes in the middle with NMT.
One thing I find annoying with the game is that the game forces you to put pillars every 96 metres, but this becomes a problem when you build a cable car across a valley with two hills on either side. If you run the cable car from one hill to the other, if the valley is wider than 96 metres, it will create an extra node in the middle, creating a dip in the wires. This looks really bad, and normally, there would be a large gap with no pillars when crossing a valley or gorge. You can remove the nodes in the middle with NMT, or, you can space the nodes further apart when building the wires using Node Spacer. Alternatively, you can drag the nodes out with Move it, but this process is rather finncky.
Nice idea, thanks 👍
I think it would be great if you re-wild some of this space. You set out to make a national park, and in the process made a river with concrete walls and put transport across the top of the mountain. I think if the funicular railway went to just below the peak, you could have a great little park area a bit like Snowdon, with a path up that connects to the railway before getting to the peak. And maybe using the dirt roads instead of tarmac. Love the content though Biffa, keep it up!
Another nice name for the mountain range would be Teamalayas maybe? Or the Tearenees?
The Quay Walls look splendid! A "trick" the Dutch do is: lower the unused land behind the river a bit, so in case of flood, the water has more space and hopefully won't go to the airport. It doesn't matter when unused land floods. Disadvantage is that it takes up a lot of spaces + requires a second levee/floodwall/dike behind the lowered land along the river ("uiterwaard") And the funicular is a wondeful idea too :)
Some cities use such flood plains as parks. Better a park to flood than a neighborhood.
@@aarongallaway7005 yeah, exactly. You sometimes see cattle too, but on the outskirts of the city of course. (and there's a higher located shed or stable in case of flooding)
Literally the best moment of my day seeing you upload, and it's not even midday
Funiculars - you were so busy thinking about whether you could that you never stopped to think about whether you SHOULD.
I am not really sure how realistic the builds in this episode and the previous one are. But they are spectacular and fun to watch.
You've done perfect Biffa, the flooding was a manmade problem so a river Dam thing would be the realest solution. Thumbs Up and greetings
I'm so happy you turned the fires back on biffa! 😂😂 thanks for doing my request!
The new area at the end should be modern futuristic buildings, then build an old town somewhere. Connecting it to the other areas
I would suggest three things:
Firstly, for the small roal pieces up in the mountains, you could use those pedestrian roads, as they do allow vehicular traffic. Then ban everything besides services and of course also ban parking, then snake the road down through tunnels (to have them out of sight. Hilltop cablecar or funicular stops don't necessarily have road access in real life, but the game wants it to, so tunnels are a work around, similar to the tunnel connecting the prison island).
Secondly, add a park side gate at the cable car stop(s) along the way.
Thirdly, run those modded local electrical lines up the mountain. I don't remember if you ever used them, but look at City Planner's Clearwater County series if you don't know them. The huge electrical lines would ruin the view of the mountains.
Just put a water source - at a lower level - right below the dam to draw down the water to a better (i.e. lower) level. That way you don't need those HUGE quays (levees, actually) all along the river.
For once I'm going to have to disagree with you. Most funicular railways I've been on stick as close to the terrain as possible, rather than being mounted high on concrete pedestals. I think it would blend in with the scenery more too.
The Peak 'Tram' in Hong Kong is an excellent example. A straight (due to the cable) ground level funicular railway.
Holy this is the Swiss Stoosbahn. I live like next to the Station. I love this 🥰
13:15 - This tallest peak could be a great place for some kind of built in viewpoint, a cafe for some tourists like the cairngorms. Quay walls may work as a base edge for a viewing area.
16:25 - My concern is services for some of these places like the funicular station at the top and the cable car station by the dam. Maybe some 1x1 services assets could help there. Like a little security office for crime.
Please make like a self sustaining small village full of wanderers, travelers and pilgrims and add some castle ruins along the mountain tops or something like that! this would be so cool :D
The new area could be a bigger area dedicated to leisure and tourism activities, Teawis spend the day at leisure, visiting sights, then take the funicular up to the cable cars and then home.
Nice! Maybe the "block services" assets would be a good idea for the stations at the top of the mountains.
I'd love to see one of the long skinny islands be named "long island Iced tea"
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Name for the Funicular line: The Hobbit Line ;). It would work with New Tealand / Zealand naming scheme.
HOBBI-TEA
Actually that cable car post lining at the mountain ranges remain me of LOTR scene when they light on fire signal from Gondor
"I'm watching too much City Planner Plays" - This would explain the fire hazard ;-)
Now he's going to have to go through and delete every name with "Myrtle" in it and give the street or locality a new name 😜
Biffa while building the last road access for the first funicular line: Let´s make it realistic and go around the mountain.
Also Biffa: Let´s adjust the top of the mountain to my perfectly steep funicular line!
Haha love it! Keep it up man! Congrats on winning the Red Bull Event
Mt. Washington in New Hampshire, USA has a very similar setup with a train you can take to the summit. My wife and I rode it back in 2013. it was incredible.
please can you build a area with only europeing buildings (hige densety)
My suggestion for the empty space is to make a semi-rural village with a focus on open space and nature, which fits in well with the mountainous nature park theme. I'm thinking you could do this by zoning housing with empty spaces between each house, and by using fences and landscaping it could look like large properties with big yards and nice gardens etc. then adding parks and a few shops along a main street could create a nice quiet village centre with kind of happy small community vibe.
It would be really cool to make some mountain bike trails, maybe you could find a way of making some cool turns and obstacles for a path that only allows bikes.
I love the idea of the new area being a small rural town that is a tourist town. Like some ski resort or beach towns... they built up around one feature (mountain and funicular) and just all live there to support that tourist attraction + few shops and restaurants. Maybe one or two small hotels/resorts
I was actually on the Stoosbahn yesterday so it was cool seeing this today 😂. Fwiw that's the steepest funicular in the world at 47.7°. I think I saw some of the angles here at 65+?
That is some massive pillars on the feniculars, i would lower the plattform at the top, that way the connection towards the cablecars would be better. :) Like the idea though. 👍🏼 And gr8 content as always!
I have to say. Most of the time, I'm more mind-boggled by the beauty shots than anything else and it makes me want to pick up my city again. And then I get impatient and sad until the next video comes out.
I suggest a small town with fishing industry and one of the dlc factories in that new area, and to call it Brewmont as its right at the foot of the mountain 🧐
The walls at the river look a bit horky borky
The (compressed air) Mékarski funicular was the first version of Montmartre funicular in Paris, opened in the early 1900s before being replaced by an eletrical funicular in 1937 (and remodelled in 1991).
Mékarski's specialty was compressed air power technology, he also designed trams that way for Paris and Nantes, those were rather quickly replaced by electrical trams due to loss or air pressure leading to trams being blocked and lower nds of slopes...
Thx Biffa for the AVO mode, I had those funiculars popping in my train rotation messing everything uo and was about to delete the mod altogether...
Problem with your funiculars; they gice access to the natural reserve from the top for free... You should consider to add a secondary entrance near the top station as well...
The Hill Top funiculat station should be right next to the slope for the track to depart sloped immediately. The ridge you chose is not steep enough for the funicular to look right, it would have fitted the cable car better there.
You really should keep the mountain top free of anything because of its "Astonoshing Beauty status", just saying. It DOES ruin the view...
15:24 I'd build the cable car on the little plateau near the natural reserve path if I were you.
So you are doing like Violet le Duc wanting to increase the height of Mont Blanc back in the 19th Century... that guy was crazy, he thought that the mountain wasn't high enough !
The Funicular station shouldn't be built on top of the mountain to preserve the scenery, just one step lower.
Thpse wind turbines ruin the scenery as well...
Biffa, it is not because you have prebuilt lines on a map that you doesn't have to modify them or add tracks on the side...
35:14, Consider adding slipways from the high way directly to the road leading to the Lower station, including one from the highway interchange to avoid unecessary trips frhough the first roundabout. Also a train station parallel to the track near the Highway would be a nice addition and a bus running from it to the funicular.
I dont know if any of my fellow norwegians have commented this, but in Norway we have something called the Loen Skylift. It is actually a cable car going to the top of the mountain, and a restaurant at the top. Worth checking out either way. Also there is a thing called Trollstigen (The troll ladder), which is a road that climbs up the mountain. The easiest thing is to make a tunnel straight through to connect either side of a mountain, but I think it will look great in your city aswell.
Finally the cable car... was waiting for it. The funicular looks fantastic
That area would be perfect for a medical and rehab center, all those nice views you get are where I'd love to go to get my energy back
One of the other mountain top park names can be called Tea-tering (teetering) Heights! Love the vids Biffa
Hope you build a historical district in that space! I love someone else's idea of Olde Tealand!
The highest mountain should be called Mount FuTea (Fuji) 👍
In Norway we have a lot of spiral tunnel roads in order to climb safely UP steep Mountains with motor veichles. There is one on the way up to Vøringsfossen and one on the way down to Røldal. I think you could easily create some of your own to get road acsess to the funicular and cable car stops
So, I went all gruesome in my mind for your animal farms….Tea-Bone Steaks. I don’t expect you to use it, but I figured you’d appreciate the tea-based pun.
I think the problems you're having with this setup is that these are made for going up the sides of hills, and you are trying to build up a mountain
I ***LOVE*** REVO's funicular assets! Use them all the time in mountainous builds...One problem I noticed, though, is that the funicular trains will spawn on the normal rails as intercity trains and slow down that entire network....and you just made me feel very dumb by explaining the very simple fix for it, lol! Thank you so much!!!
Just caught up with the New Tealand binge! For the dam, how about 'Teaver Dam' ?
Is there a way to make volcanos (or former ones)? Could be named Kettle Mountain
that area can be a nice touristy thingy place, hotels, bars, souvenirs
and stuff. and maybe drop the space needle in there to max out the cable car
Love the cable car along the top. I think a little town that turns into a tourist trap would fit nicely at the bottom of the funicular. Like a seaside town in Devon or Cornwall that brings out all the grockles in summer.
Your going to give City Planner Plays an aneurysm if you keep these mad projects up lol
30:50 "semi-realistic-ish" like everything I've ever built 😂😂
Also, i feel like Phil's been influencing how everyone builds (and ofc just as I start typing this I get a notification for a 5B1C video SuperVinlin), but that's fine really, it's nice to be able to see the world through the eyes of someone that's aware of how things are built, and he does a really good job of explaining the thought processes
biffa im begging, please turn the roads on top of the mountains into rural roads, the tarmac/concrete roads really dont go with the natural beauty of the park XD
27:12 The ghost of Myrtle has come from Verde Beach to show her displeasure over your lack of fire response. Also, in the new, yet-to-be-designed area, consider extending the train line across (or under) the highway to allow more access to downtown.
Biffa: I made the river prettier by installing piers
Civil engineers since the 60's: and we call that killing the river
One of the mountains could be called T(ea)2.
In real life a cable car like that would be more of a tourist attraction than a way of transportation, imagine that view from flying high above the peaks.
You'd better not be scared of hights lol.
4:05 "it holds 30 i did not think that was realistic at all" we use these in Bogota and other cities around Colombia for the Andes. some places you get packed in like battery farm chickens and you might get 20 people per carriage in two or three carriages with no seating, that is when you have greedy owners of them, but other wise you are looking at 10 people standing per carriage for short journeys or 6 to 8 people seated for longer runs.
tealand will love them
Hey Biffa since the new area is a nice beach front next to the Funicular. Maybe having a proper beach front next to it could increase the attractiveness of the entire area and attract more people
Great new asset package! Perhaps a fence on the mountain side of the last road built to help protect from rock slides?? How about turning the new area into a tourism and leisure area so all the noise is kept away from the residents. Throw in a bit of IT cluster for making a bit of cash and offset the unique buildings and hotels. Take the metro from the airport and milk your tourists of all their vacation funds. 😉
New Tealand Governing Board: "Uh oh! We measured the mountain wrong and bought 1.3 miles of funicular track. What will we ever do?"
Biffa: "Bring in dirt and rock to make the mountain taller, of course."
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
I would go for a mount rushmore kinda thing inside the mountain side. Or maybe setup like the Crazy Horse Memorial.
Seems like the perfect spot people would build a massive monument without really disrupting the rest of the mountain range.
Btw, love the series so far, think this might be the most enjoyable one so far
The beacons are lit!!!
Oh my giddy aunt! Please make a town that looks like Gondor from LotR, I'm sure you can pull it off! And it will look absolutely amazing on one of your mountains!
For your new area maybe something like a 'Partea' town. A place to have fun. Fireworks all night. Get in a 'Fun'icular. Have the people party! 'Partea!
As a fan of Sir Paul, and as someone who enjoyed "Give My Regards To Broad Street," I got a sad little twinge when you deleted that bit of road at the top.
Maybe try to remove the tallest pillars on the cable car line with the move it mod to make it less visible? Because those pillars are outrageous.
Here in India, I visited a tea plantation in state named "Timi Tea State" it was on Himalayan mountains so if you could name one park after it it'd be amazing
Btw Biffa, we have a funicular railway in the UK that goes up Mount Snowden in Wales. Sure you're daughter would enjoy a family trip to Snowdonia
For the new area you should consider modern low density (or even eco) housing and a few low density shops. A road bridge across the dual carriage way and rail line could link this to the coast where a seaside leisure & tourism district could be built. utilising the area with the quays to function as a marina. A station on the rail line would compliment the existing public transport options & a tram could run around the area connecting the various facilities
You may already have come to this, but if you widen the river downstream of the dam at the point where it splits around the island at the mouth, you'll get better flow. That's the narrow point and if there's more water than the river can take AT THAT POINT, then it will spill over it's banks somewhere upstream. If you make sure it continues to widen it as it goes seaward, and doesn't have any narrow points to constrain the flow (literal bottlenecks), you should be able to lower the quay walls and land back to where they were before
I know that at the moment there aren't a lot of trees in that new space you mention in the last seconds, but the funicular makes me think about Austrian villages where they also would have giant tree/wood industrial plants where all the pine trees were skinned for cabin construction. So, maybe that new area could be like a woodworkers village? With lots of wooden/pine detailing. (The plus side of that would be, that I love watching you do industrial zones)
So, the whole thing about having a pristine natural wonder and all that...what happened to the "pristine" part?
Growing up in continental Europe I've seen quite a few funiculars in my life, but I don't think I've ever seen any on stilts, usually they eat into a mountain side. But looking it up the "Stoosbahn" this is based on does start out on them it seems.
One thing I've thought was weird with the asset was that the cabins aren't angled like the old school funiculars are that you showed and the pics online of the Stoosbahn do show them angled so that looks like an oversight by the asset creator but it's very cool still.
Random trivia: the German name for funicular is "Seilbahn" which translates to "cable train" or "rope train", but sometimes you can see them called "Bergbahn" which translates to "mountain train", however "Bergbahn" is a very loose description and can be many things, a train, a funicular or a gondola lift (cable car).
So all Biffa needs is like an old school looking (steam) locomotive and he would have an entire Bergbahn set 😂
Not all Funicular railways are straight and steep and elevated. Some do follow terrain curvature and elevation. For instance the Snowden Funicular is just a very steep and windy ground level railway.
The funicular with the barrel-shaped carriages is actually kind of cool. A traditional funicular must have constant slope, because the carriages are designed to have a level cabin when placed on that slope - but the barrel version is designed to allow the cabin to adjust to follow the vehicle to follow a varying slope. Unfortunately the mod doesn't seem to have found a way to implement that part.
Here's the Wikipedia page about the real Stoosbahn... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoosbahn
Instead of the fence between the road and highway, how about using the highway with sound barriers? I think it is the zoo fence that has a concrete base and would work better for protection, too.
Getting things as close to the ground as possible is the most cheap and realistic as I don’t think a line that high could easily deal with the ballast. It’s better to carve into the mountain like they do irl.
I got a shout out in a Biffa video! I’m famous!
Really love the futuristic addition to New Tealand and can’t wait to see the small community grow around it!
What a fun build. The combo of Funicular and cable cars is something I would never have though of. If you’re interested…Johnstown Pennsylvania has an old school funicular train. It’s called the incline plane. It uses those other types of train cars that you showed. I also think a small parking lot by the end stations of the funicular stations would be a bit more realistic. But what do I know?
It would be so cool to extend the park that is above the dam to the rest of the mountains and mixing it with facilities such as an observatory or so. It would bring so much life to them. Maybe a coal powerplant could fit somewhere too, with a big jesus