just_ jodiee I am on week 8 without surgery and it still hurts although I have been able to take a couple of steps here and there as long as it's on my heel
i am watching...having twisted my left foot while walking last night...i heard a cracking sound at the time of incident ..now it is swelled horribly and i cant weigh on it at all
If you come here wondering how long it’s gonna take for you to heal: I snapped my 5th metatarsal in half, right in the middle of the bone in my left foot. The bone was still aligned properly though. I was back running a little over 2 months later! I know everyone heals differently but just wanted to share my experience with this injury.
Villaneve What kind of surgery? How was your recovery? I’m getting surgery on my displaced 5th metatarsal fracture. It’s been nearly 8 weeks & hasn’t healed
@@lecyvee3619 I fractured my 5th metatarsal last week and the doctor said that i should get surgery immediatly. And in two weeks I am having my stiches removed. I hope everything works well with your operation.
@@brakasaka3376 Yeah I went to the ER when it happend. Got a cast and then later went to a specialist. I stayed of the foot and kept it elevated when resting.
I broke my 5th metatarsal 2 weeks ago- avulsion fracture, I wore a tall air boot cast for a week, short boot cast for 4 days while at work and nothing at home and now a tight stiff shoe when out but able to totally weight bear and almost back fully functioning! Proper rest and immediate integration of physio and strengthening exercises helped immensely- defiantly only do what your doctor recommends, I’m glad I’ve been lucky enough to keep pain to a minimum and still maintain a somewhat normal life!
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you for a very informative video. I'm 3 days in with a short cast and you have answered many of my concerning questions. Questions I would have otherwise needed to go back to my DR to ask, costing me more money, time and hassle.
I got Hit during very light sparring in kickboxing, actually I was hitting with some strange kick and guy blocked the kick with elbow. I did not feel like it hurt much, but when I got home, it was red a bit .... days later bruised and I could walk but was limping a bit and there was decent amount of pain but nothing too bad. Compressed it with gaze.... and did not do anything about it. Now it has been 2 months later, most of the time feels like nothing ever happened, and that it was not fractured, but there is slight discoloration around area, very mild, however bone on that side now seems a tiny bit thicker than the other one, also at times slight pain comes up for a second so i guess it was not harmless as I tought at the beggining.
Hi L B. So glad you like our videos. It is difficult to give specific advice but we feel strongly that information is power. Thanks so much for your encouraging words.
Broke 5th Metatarsal yesterday. Elevating certainly helps with pain. However, maneuvering while 37 weeks pregnant is tough. Emotions are running high along with managing pain tolerance and not knowing when babygirl will pop before due date. What a wonderful time to break my left 5th metatarsal 🦶🤰🏼 Thanks Docs for giving me more info as I try to seek out an orthopedic today. Blessings.
I had this fracture 5 weeks ago, today my doctor remove my cast (no surgery) and im literally crying because i cant walk, i was so holpfull it wouldnt be this hard BUT IT HURTS and im so afraid to break my foot or just falling again into the flor. Thanks docs, this is an amazing video, its helping me lear more about my injury and giving me a bit of patience. Greatings from Perú!
How is it going? It’s been a month and I cannot walk without crutches and I’m still in boot although my doc told me that I have to put weight from day 20. Will you do physical therapy?
Hi Silvana. It should get better. Gradually increasing your weight bearing. Use ice. Elevation. Best of luck to you in Peru! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Fractured my 3rd, 4th, and 5th metatarsal several months ago falling off a ladder at work. Starting swelling pretty much instantly! Orthopedic Doc reccomended and performed the pin surgery with a pin going down each of the messed up toes. Put it in a cast and it healed up in no time. (Getting those pins removed felt really uncomfortable and weird though lol!) Cheers for the informative vid!
Just shy of 3 months since my fracture, I'm doing well (probably at 80-85% of normal) and back to riding horses for the last month. It's really helped me that I bought a wide heavier New Balance shoe to help me transition from the boot. There is light at the end of the tunnel!
Hello talking Docs! I just wanted to say thank you for your video. I got rid of my walking shoe two days ago, which marked the magic number of exactly six weeks. I was told to slowly ramp up and let my foot tell me how much is possible. So far I'm already walking quite comfortably with only small occasional annoyances. Your video has calmed me down on my decision to take conservative treatment (1 doctor suggested surgery, 2 were against it). Thank you again and please keep up the informative and humorous content!
Hi Felix! Glad that you found our video helpful and humorous. We do our best to keep it light but useful. Usually the foot fractures do very well but it is a long process which is often annoying and makes people anxious once they are out of the boot. Good luck with getting back to normal and playing those guitar covers!
So with a fracture and displacement of the fifth metarsal avulsion, this is still good not to operate and let the natural healing process takes it course…. I am not an athlete so a little longer time to heal is fne without the need for surgery. As always, your videos always helps and teach us to be more aware of the options , thank you so much. Steve
Great information. I am at the 3 month point following a 5th metatarsal fracture. I am still working on muscle strength it felt like I was learning to walk again. Did anyone see Victoria Beckham’s latest(2018) fracture? Hashtag tag no big deal and like a week later she was in Kenya and a week after that in heels. I guess compared to all of David Beckham’s injuries it pales in comparison. Felt very debilitating for me. My tip is keep your strength in the rest of your body it will be easier to get walking again if you only need to exercise your foot once healed. Plus the fear of re-injury cannot be ignored it is tough but there is way worse. I feel grateful so much info available. Cheers!
Hi JenuineAirbrushTan. Thanks for the positive feedback. It is important to recognize that every injury is different so recovery will also be very different. Good luck in your recovery.
I noticed that. Celebrities get the best care for who they are and because they can afford it. Have been feeling a bit of celebrity envy for this reason as they seem to bounce back in a few weeks while the rest of us have to do detective work on our lack of progress.
Hi Louise. There is some potential for celebrities to have access to better care however the majority of orthopedic surgeons are treating patients who are just normal people. And for this injury celebrities would get the same care - aircast. They may consider a bone stimulator which is expensive that can speed up healing but usually is not necessary. Don't be envious - can you imagine if someone was ready to take a picture every time you took a bite of foot at a restaurant?
sitting watching this with a very displaced 5th metatarsal of the main shaft and struggling to get surgeons in the UK to agree to surgery - super reluctant to leave it to chance that the fracture will heal well enough to return to a fully functioning foot which won't give me problems for the rest of my life (as i've heard can be the case...) have come to the internet for guidance and info!
You guys are the Bomb ! Thankyou ! I busted my 5th metatarsal an hour ago and although I'm in a tonne of pain, you've made me feel alot better. X ray tomorrow will tell me just how well I've done it .
@@petems3283 4 weeks on. Pain just stopped (not that it was that bad) still in a boot and will play it safe for another 2 weeks given it was a reasonably displaced fracture but not quite a jones.
@@richardb9017 right. I broke my 4th meta, 2 yrs ago. Pain and swelling for 4 weeks. After that got the temporary boot on for short periods. Back to work around the 10 week period but confined to ground floor. I think 4 months until all ok. 2 years on its still sensitive but I'm 58, so. Keep me updated and good luck. It sucks but it passes.
@@petems3283 im a chiro and have been lifting 150kg in the air back to back patients from day 2. Should be ok I think. Man you had a long recovery ! I'm 42
Hi Docs! Thank you for this very informative video. 7 weeks ago, I fell over a step. I have a closed displaced fracture of the neck of the 5th metatarsal (left foot). I've been in a tall CAM walker boot for 7 weeks - one more week to go. I don't have much pain at this point but I'm apparently healing kind of slowly, so I was told to wear the boot for 8 weeks instead of 6. I only wear the boot when I'm standing and/or walking (not when I'm sitting or laying down). Here's my question: When the boot is off and I'm laying down, is it a good idea for me to move my foot around to help re-strengthen my foot and prevent atrophy? I've been doing circles with my ankle, pivoting my foot up and down from the ankle, and slowly closing and opening my toes. Sports Medicine doctor said yes I should - Podiatrist said no I shouldn't. What do you think? Thank you VERY much. Best regards, K
Hi Kara. With respect to physio, you are able to start moving your foot and ankle as the bone starts to heal. The degree to which you do this should be discussed with your treating surgeon. Good luck.
I somehow hurt my foot in March. I think it is from the foot massage g machine my husband bought me. I have done ice/heat, physical therapy, taping my foot, xray, pain gel, referred to podiatrist who did MRI of peroneal area that showed nothing but he gave me an injection for fluid behind bone. That didn't do anything. Went back to primary and got referred to a sports medicine doc. He thinks it is a fracture on 5th metatarsal (right where it juts out). Oh my gosh! The boot is almost like heaven. I almost feel like doing a footectomy. Tonight (morning) can't sleep from all this burning, stinging, tearing feeling. I am thankful I get an MRI of the corre t area today and follow-up next week. Thanks for your video. 10 months of pain is too long!
Just ended up with a Jones fracture a few weeks ago, clean and non displaced, you literally can barely see it on X ray, stopped hurting as soon as the swelling went down but it's there. It's scary and frustrating, and my doctor really pushed for conservative treatment (CAM boot with NWB) which is also scary and frustrating for an active person like I am worried about getting back on both feet and about rebreaks. Thanks for your video, it's done a lot more to reassure me than the actual doctor who treated me. Any advice? I know just be patient, but it's tough. First available surgery date for a screw wasn't until almost six weeks out from the break anyway so I think I'm going to ride this out. I kid you not, your video is probably the most encouraging thing anyone on the internet says about Jones fractures treated conservatively.
Hi Robert. Thanks for the positive comments. We have always tried to be open and honest about treatment risks and complications and in our practice, the vast majority of these fractures go on to heal without surgery. So glad we could be of assistance. Good luck and keep healing!
Thought I'd give an update. At 7.5 weeks the xrays showed enough healing to walk in a CAM walker and with weight bearing the healing really accelerated. At 12.5 weeks from fracture (last week) I was cleared to return to shoes and to full activities slowly. Right now I'm still walking with a limp and the foot gets a little sore at the end of the day but normal life is that much closer. Thank you guys for your video, it really helped.
Hi Robert. That is really great news. Sometimes these fractures can take a long time but thankfully they do heal most of the time. You are very welcome. And good luck with the rest of your recovery
Wish one of you guys was working in the ER when I fractured it for the first time back in October of 2020. I was playing golf and was hitting out of a hazard (I know, what did I hit it in the hazard for?) when my foot gave way and it felt like my foot imploded. I went to the emergency room after I tried and hit one more shot and realized that was not terribly bright. The guy xrayed it and said it was sprained and not fractured. I tried to stay off of it and follow the medical advice. I still was walking my two dogs every day and it was only marginally improving. In late January of 2021, I was walking my dogs and my foot folded up like a taco. I figured a trip to the ER was a waste of time because I was certain I got bad advice the first time so I went to a specialist. They told me I had fractured it and they were able to access the first X-ray and said it was fractured the first time. The specialist had me in a non walking boot for about 4 months. Long story short is it hasn't really improved a whole lot. My foot is shaped like an old patriot three cornered hat. It starts the day okay but gets worse through the day. Just went to another specialist last week and he said I have a non union fracture. He wants me to do the electric pulsating device to stimulate bone growth. He said of that doesn't work, I should consider letting them rebrake it and putting a screw in it. I fear the first misdiagnosis has sent me down a path of just having to deal with it and waiting for it to rebrake on its own. I'm afraid to play golf on any course with any slope because it feels so unstable and is just a matter of time before it breaks again. What do you guys think about the machine that stimulates bone growth? Is it the real deal? Love to hear any thoughts. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Next time, I'm taking the penalty out of the hazard and will take a drop!
Hi Thomas. Yes take the drop. There is some evidence that ultrasound bone stimulators can help stubborn fractures. And if that doesn’t work yes surgery is the final option. Wishing you the best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
thank you for that information , i have a question , should i keep icing or heating or both ? i have been icing it for two days , how long should i do it for or should i stop ?
Hi Dancersdiary. Heat will commonly make an injury feel better by bringing more blood supply to the area. Ice aids in recovery by reducing swelling and providing a local numbing effect to reduce pain. Both are a good idea depending on the scenario. You can continue to do this until you recover. Hope that helps.
@Talking With Docs Thank you for a very informative video. I'm 3 days in with a short cast and you have answered many of my concerning questions. Questions I would have otherwise needed to go back to my DR to ask, costing me more money, time and hassle.
how. long do I have to wait till I can skateboard again after breaking fifth metatarsal? will I be able to do tricks and jump? and also will my bone be strong enough again? like after 5 months?
How soon a patient can return to sport or other activities is a very individualized decision based on the severity of the initial injury, the healing to date, the age and health of the patient as well as the activity that they want to return to. Often more aggressive activities like skateboarding cannot be resumed for longer periods of time but would continue to carry the risk of repeat injury. That decision would be based on your physician's physical examination and other investigations like serial xrays.
Never had xrays but about 2 and 1/2 months ago i landed on my ankle trying to ollie a 4 stair, something i had done before but got complacent with. Over committed and destroyed what i believe is my fifth meta tarsal. Had severe bruising on both sides of the foot and all the way up into the toes. After about 6 weeks i could ride again but no flip tricks, they would cause server pain on the injury and felt like they were setting it back. Skated today with some flip tricks and still minor pain from time to time. Best bet is to probably wait 3 months before doing any skating, i wish i had fought the temptations to get back on the board
I fractured my 5th metatarsal. I was in a cast for 6 weeks. Now I’m in a boot for 4 weeks. I feel pain, which seems to be nerve pain. I hope I heal completely and fast. Thanks for the video.
I'm only finding videos about 5th metatarsal. I broke the 4th & 5th, & I've got a Karate/Kickboxing/Eskrima-Kali-Arnis event in 4 weeks. My wife thinks that I should cancel, but I'm hoping it will be fine in a month
I have a nondisplaced zone 3 fracture, doc told me 95% effective with a screw. I opted for that success option vs. watch/wait and see if it heals and take a 15-20% chance for malunion. Thank you for the information docs!
Hey thanks for making this video... I've been suffering for years with pain, on and off and looking for answers...Your video was the 1st one to pop up! If you push on the nub of the 5th bone & I go through the roof. It seems to hurt even when i'm off my feet. It literally comes & goes in waves and even feels like the pain goes up that side a little bit....Like right now i have my feet up, no pain, but 2 minutes ago, it was killing me, still with feet up...uggh I FINALLY went to a doctor last week, told me i need orthotics. Never did an x-ray or anything, but this has been happening for years...SO frustrating.... I don't walk right anymore, the only time i walk right is when i have so much padding on my foot so the pain isn't so bad....I'm thinking he should of ordered an x-ray, but then i think what could they really do anyway if they did do an xray since i've had this for years?? I mean not to put you out of a job, but foot surgery is scary shit...lol
@@AVYONE with the right padding, it's better. Yes, went to doctor. There was really nothing they could do. Stress fractures, I believe it was. It comes & goes. I have NO idea what causes it or why it comes & goes! Weird! Thanks for asking!
@@aliecaruso you might be able to get cortisol shots for pain if it’s consistent / affecting your life?? My mother used to get those in her foot every month or so. Maybe something worth looking into? Best of luck to you 🖤
THANK YOU so much for this video. I'm a RN & I wk in a ortho rehab facility(5⭐). I rolled my ankle yesterday going downstairs but I couldn't figure out why my metatarsal hurts so much--it hurts to walk at all! This info is perfect for people like me who avoid the dr visits unless absolutely necessary.
Hi FlyAlphaRN. You are very welcome! Glad to hear that we can help in any way. We are doing our best to allow people to make informed decisions about their own health. Thanks for watching!
Hi, i fractured my fifth metatarsal a few days ago.. however, i'm getting more pain from the inside of my foot on the ( i think) cuneiform navicular. Is this common? thanks.
Hi Jack. When you break any bone in your foot, you will often change your gait and the way you load your foot so some of the pain can be compensatory. Whether or not some of the other bones of your foot are involved in your injury would require a physical examination, review of your imaging and possibly further imaging if there is ongoing suspicion. Good luck.
Thank you doctors for your amazing information and you guys are funny too I'm about to have surgery on my foot I broke my second and third toe my metatarsal bone and I'm about to have surgery soon and I'm scared I never had surgery before and I don't know how it is and I don't know how I'm going to feel I'm from Los Angeles California so wish me luck doctors
Was just walking in my backyard on old tennis shoes doing some work and all of a sudden felt pain. Went to Podiatrist three days later and after a set of X-Rays, the Doc said yes, you broke it. Whaaaaat... Ok, It's an Avulsion Fracture and was given a Walking Boot. One week removed and it feels better. A follow up in three weeks and hopefully the new X-rays will show improvement.
Yes I broke a bone in 5th metatarsal and doc put me in a boot right away. For 2 weeks I thought it was just a sprain but sure enough x-ray showed me a broken bone. I am hopin when I return this week he says no more boot! It honestly doesn't hurt much!
3-6 months? I cannot wait that long before returning to gym - sure I can do some other stuff. I fractured my foot January 20th. Flying to South Africa on Feb 28th. Boot or no boot, I gotta travel.
I landed on a shell while running, rolled my foot and broke my fifth metatarsal (classic!). I was back in the gym the following week. realizing I had a foot injury, I went directly to a foot and ankle specialist who put by on crutches in a boot. I was back in the gym with his blessing the following week doing one-legged rowing and the hand cycle. I was on crutches for five weeks, but I continued on weight machines where I could sit and eventually when I could bear weight I took on more at the gym. When I graduated to a surgical shoe I was told I can deadlift and squat - anything that didn't involve impact. I'm an olympic weightlifter and I run for cardio, so staying out of the gym drives me insane. The doctor told me that so long as I didn't put any pressure on the injured foot at first I could go to the gym and that getting your heart pumping, and eventually weight training all help the bone heal. I also took zinc, copper, 5,000 IU vitamin D3, calcium, Lysine, Taurine, K2, magnesium, Omega-3, ate a ton of sardines and greens and used an exogen device. So, you don't have to wait that long to return to the gym, you just have to really tailor your workout to accommodate your injury.
Hi I just fractured my fifth metatarsal last Wednesday on vacation. For the past three years I have been going to the gym really intensely. So far I know that my fracture was "minimally displaced" and mid shaft. I am trying to figure out when I can go back. I was able to do little things today at home that are easy like donkey kicks but i don't want to move backwards. Do you have any ideas for workouts with this injury? I just don't want to lose the muscle I have built in my legs.
Thx so much for this video. I suffered an oblique fifth metatarsal fracture at the shaft that was displaced. This was April 15, 2016. I was put in an Aircast for 8 mos (yes, eight months) and at 5 mos, after no healing seen, an Exogen bone stimulator was begun at 20m daily for 3 mos. I was told after that it looked "ok" and I could continue the stimulator "if I wanted to". Imagine my shock that it felt the same but I was told it was fine so I plugged on. Saw a podiatrist 2 weeks ago and he did an MRI and the same fx was seen with displacement, nonunion, etc. now we are trying 6 weeks more of bone stim, vitamin D, and I'm going to try to "go easy" on it myself as I'm a relatively poor surgical candidate. I'm just very angry that surgery will be required thereafter and will be much more extensive than I would've needed last year. I'm told this will require bone grafting. Anyone who has had this surgery or can provide any info, will u please contact me? Thx!
Glad you enjoyed the video. It sounds like you are doing all of the right things - immobilization, vitamin D (you should watch the video) and the bone stimulator. There is some evidence that use of bone stimulators can overcome non unions in certain situations - let's hope you are such a case. Good luck.
Talking With Docs I'm praying I'm one of these patients but am a little hesitant since I used the bone stim last year for 3 mos, with no success. But I'm hoping in the next 6 weeks I see improvement! Thx for the reply! Oh and I'll def check out the vitamin D video!
I think there comes a time in the "post-injury phase" that a "displaced break-" Not a fracture, anymore-- should be addressed quicker than that. One CANNOT continue to use Crutches and Knee Scooters for 6-8 months. It's psychologically crazy. I am not a doctor, but one is simply putting off the inevitible. If there's NO UNION after 6 weeks, I would Opt for the Surgery. The Surgery is relatively simply for podiatric surgeons or orthopedic surgeons. The 5th Metatarsal is a Common Break. I have that right now. It happened in March. I felt nothing. No Pain, no swelling, but I felt the weakness and the Bone Bruising. a "Bump" appeared on the dorsal(top) part of the foot. Then the more I walked, the more Pinching and burning sensations I felt. And finally, I said, "Hey, I have to have this looked at." Lo and behold, I had a rotated(because I continued to walk on it, not knowing I had a broken bone) and it has become displaced. It's not going to Join, and if it does, it's not going to be correct. Solution? Listen to the Surgeon. I'm having my surgery Next Friday, the 12th. It's out patient. I'll be home, in some pain and must stay off, NWB for 6 to 8 weeks. Best get started on the healing process. Don't procrastinate. You're putting off the inevitible, AND frankly, you don't want to run the risk of an infection; do you? That can lead to some really serious issues. Especially with an Open Fracture for several months? If the Infection gets into the Open ended bone, it can potentially get into your entire bloodstream. And then you'll have to have a PIC Line of Dripping Anti-Biotics., Get the surgery. Start the healing process as soon as you can
Paul Anthony First, before I forget, it's not an open fracture. I definitely haven't had bone hanging out of my skin at any point. Like u, I didn't have a lot of pain but noticed swelling and bruising and a lump on the side and top of my foot, along with crooked toes. Then I went in and the X-ray showed a fifth metatarsal fracture at the shaft, displaced. As I was a relatively poor surgical candidate, the doctor tried the aircast for 8 mos and started the Exogen bone stimulator at 6 mos. I was told then that it worked and things were fine but that I could continue the bone stimulator if I "wanted". When at a routine podiatry appt last month my doctor saw the toe abnormalities and did an X-ray, which was abnormal, then ordered an MRI, which showed the fracture looked the same, displaced fifth metatarsal, with floating bone fragments, as before. Because I'm a relatively poor surgical candidate, he wants to avoid surgery so we are trying increased vitamin D and a bone stimulator. If I have to have surgery at this point, unfortunately it wouldn't be typical fifth metatarsal surgery. It'll be more extensive with bone grafting from my hip, which I'm very leery of. So I'm praying this six weeks brings healing. But I would've definitely chosen surgery last year when it wasn't healing had the doctor made it clear it hadn't healed in August. I have no clue why he told me it was healed. Good luck to u!
Hi docs I need some advice I have a avulsion fracture to the cuboid my whole foot is bruised and swelling is going down I have a boot I wear however I took it off and can semi walk (still limping with foot turning in ) if I walk without the boot will this make it worse it’s been 1 week today since I did it and am already over the boot got fracture clinic this coming Monday hopefully it has healed!
Hi aleesha. So every case is different but typically with an avulsion fracture we treat them like a severe sprain and that means an aircast boot for 4-6 weeks. The main reason is that you want the ligaments to heal short rather than long to reduce the risk of having an ankle that is chronically unstable. And after the 4-6 weeks, lots of physiotherapy. The swelling and bruising will gradually subside. Good luck to you! And thanks for watching.
I have 5th Metatrasal fracture, broken vertical with a piece almost broken off but still attached. Dr, said I can bare weight on day 17...does that seen too soon? I have a boot air cast on, how do I know if its okay to walk. It does hurt now and then sort of throbing ache on the site. Just want to knwo how to start walking without causing harm.
as someone who has been over 400 pounds since high school i have had foot fractures about 20 times only 3 times did it hurt so much i needed to be seen but i walked funny for about 3 weeks to a month and then the pain slowly fades and one you try to remember when it stopped hurting and you went back to walking normally again wish my feet were stronger or i weighted less but here i am
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:02 *🦴 Overview of Fifth Metatarsal Fractures* - The fifth metatarsal is a common site for foot fractures, often due to ankle rolling or tripping. - The bone connects the toes to the midfoot and can fracture easily during everyday activities. 00:02:00 *❗ Symptoms and Initial Care for Fractures* - Pain, swelling, and bruising are initial symptoms following an injury to the fifth metatarsal. - Patients should seek medical attention for diagnosis, typically starting with a history and physical examination followed by x-rays. 00:04:00 *🩺 Treatment Options for Fifth Metatarsal Fractures* - Treatment can include rigid footwear, casting, and potentially surgery if the fracture does not heal properly. - Non-surgical options like the use of bone stimulators and vitamin D can aid healing. 00:06:00 *⚽ Recovery and Return to Sports* - Recovery time can range from three to six months, varying with age and activity type. - Focus on rehabilitation includes exercises for muscle strengthening and proprioception to prevent re-injury. Made with HARPA AI
Hi Sara. That's hilarious. You are not a dumbass. Sorry to hear you broke your foot but falling down the stairs is actually a common way to do it. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Thanks for watching!
so I fractured my fifth metatarsal over a year ago. The doctor explained I had had a premature break probably when I was in high school, sometime before 18. Long story short I never knew it was broken and it healed incorrectly, the growth plates never fused properly. Two winters ago and I came down on that bad foot really hard and instantly felt incredible pain and couldn’t put any weight on it, come to discover I broke my foot again, well fractured the fifth metatarsal. I had foot surgery over a year ago. i’ll like to work out and squall and dead lift and I still snowboard to a calmer degree. although it’s not much pain, still to this day I have a sensation of wobbly Ness and instability stemming right from that fifth metatarsal right up the ankle to the calf muscles. The entire left side of my foot and lower leg rolls and folds inward by itself. I have almost no sensation of that tripod stability in the musculature of my foot. my main point is that I’ve went on basically ignoring the lack of stability and still pushing through rigorous feet and ankle conditioning and strengthening. but even a year after the left Ridge (pinky bone to the heel) feels so weak and tender. I find myself putting more strain on my knee and hips because I can’t produce enough drive from my surgery foot. I am a cigarette/pot smoker and never fully stopped through the healing process. Is this the reason my surgery foot still feels weak and unstable?
Hard to say without a proper assessment but possibly. Often it’s physio and sometimes bracing. Hope it gets better. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thanks guys. Lol I needed this just was coming off a broken big toe and literally missed a step, twisted my foot and broke my 5th metatarsal . So now I gotta finish doing exercises for my big toe and keep the boot on more and then make time to do my stretches and exercises for my 5th metatarsal too. All on the same foot 😓
Last December 2018, I had 5th metatarsal fracture and little off oblique.. fractured on 5th from little toe to my ankle broken big gap Huge bruise from top of my foot and bottom . It still hurt. Little better now reduce big swollen and referees and bruises but still on top of foot with little toe bruise . I had boot. I am walking with roll brake walker now since about June . No surgery. Will see dr to see if none heal. From gap apart. I also have alignments too. All around my ankle. Hurt my left calf. And more This video of two doctors: I don’t think it s funny for doctor to giggle whatever about any foot injury. I have traumatized because it still hurt everyday since Dec 2018! Today is August 24th,2019. I am not happy with this. I fell down several times after 5th... doctors- please don’t smile or giggle or stupid. Just respect , caring , serious , important to talk about injury foot. Some people recovery fast depends on how my much fracture broken. Small or big or so! I was at the hospital for one week then Rehabilitation/ nursing hone for p.t but I lied down on bed for weeks then home visiting nurse p.t then outpatient p.t. Thank you
Hi Eva-Marie. Sorry to hear that you are having a difficult time with your injury. The purpose of these videos is to try and educate as many people as we can about orthopedic injuries. We have tried to keep it light hearted but respectful. It was not meant to offend. Thanks for watching and good luck.
i have a proximal shaft fracture of my 5th metatarsal is that a jones fracture, they said i also have a moderate heel spur which i think is making it hurt worse cus the pain is all the way up to my left leg and calf
@@TalkingWithDocs okay thank you I haven't been to orthopedics yet they should be calling sometime this week with my appointment .. is the pain in my calf and leg area typical with foot fractures?
Hey Docs! Thank you for this great content. I have a screw in my fifth metatarsil and I am wondering what recovery would look like if I wanted to have it removed. I've started working out barefoot more frequently and the stronger my foot feels and the more it gets aligned properly, the more the screw feels like it should not be there. Any opinion or insight as to the removal of the screw would be much appreciated. Thanks again.
Hi Kern. Very welcome for the video. So after removal recovery would typically be 4-6 weeks. Usually much faster than the initial fracture. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
My mom had same fracture. They fixed it with plaster/cast. After 4 weeks they were checking if it was healing, otherwise they would have gone for the surgery. It was completely healed in those 4 weeks. Well, also with the side advice of Ayurvedic Dr. (Ancient Indian medicines) I also gave her natural calcium for 4 weeks. Like raw turmeric (looks like ginger) in warm milk in night, raw paneer and a pinch of limestone in powered form (choona) in curd in morning. For its absorption she used to sit in sunlight for an hour daily.
June 29 I fractured 5th metatarsal displaced 3mm, zone 3, nonunion at this date and time. From initial break non weight bearing in tall boot for 8 weeks, weight bearing for 5 weeks. Sept 28, X-ray showed it was still fractured no pain, no swelling, no discoloration and was told to try non weight bearing again for 4 weeks October 30 x-ray same exact fracture images Nov 8 surgeon recommended bone stimulator 2x a day and pt 3 times a week for strengthening and normalizing of gait. Previous runner, cyclist, strength training prior to injury non smoker, I’m not in any pain and never had to take any medications , nor taking any medications of any kind. My only complain is I’m still limping , discomfort at the crease of ankle on the top of foot. Will it heal at this rate? Do I need surgery? I did send more detailed info in email
I had one of these misdiagnosed as a sprain after a severe inversion injury without X-ray and was advised to walk it off by hospital staff at a very third world hospital where the doctor clearly knew nothing about foot anatomy. If it was in a cast it would have healed in 6 weeks. 4 months later it hasn't healed and the foot is a different shape. I'm using a budget electric massager to try to stimulate bone healing and now keeping off it as much as possible but doing exercises and massaging it. When I compare this to a prior injury to the other foot, the healing was dramatically faster because it was immobilised, I had crutches and I experienced no real pain. The minor remaining scar tissue was broken down after the injury healed. The modern idea of walking off an inversion injury is both painful and ridiculous unless you want to be left with a mangled franken foot and a lot of pain. A month of immobilisation is better than long term immobilisation when it doesn't heal. The pain of a fracture is no different to a torn ligament. It doesn't hurt as much as everyone says it will. It's just very annoying and relentless pain. If you don't have an X-ray and MRI you don't know what is going on. There could also be severed nerves, tendons and ligaments. Walking these off can leave you with a permanent disability.
Hi Louise. It sounds like you have had a very difficult course. Hopefully things turn for the better. You are right that you need a proper assessment including imaging for any significant injury. Good luck.
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you. Just to update at 10 months since 5th metatarsal fracture - avulsion in Jones region, this story gets even more ridiculous but I think I am on the mend at a glacial pace. Went to another health professional in NZ who could not spot obvious fracture on X-ray and diagnosed CRPS which I certainly had symptoms of. A sports doctor finally diagnosed the fracture and organised a follow up X-ray. Fracture still visible but stuck with CRPS diagnosis. Back to wearing a rocker sole boot I got from salvation army for $10 which has dramatically reduced the CRPS but still have swelling at site of injury. Another friend had this injury for 12 years before rebreaking in the same spot and getting it treated properly the second time. There are few desk jobs in this town so I have been feeling a bit outcast in more ways than one. Just relieved to have less pain and dystonia.
Hi Louise. Wow, that is certainly a long course. Glad to hear that you finally have a diagnosis and that you are on the mend. Good luck and thanks for watching and checking back in!
I found this video very informative. I got 3 fractures in my 5th Metatarsal. This is my 3rd month. This week my doctor told me the fractured have healed so I'm going so start therapy next week. Honestly that was the worst pain I have experience. My doctor said I could start wearing my sneakers but I tried to walk but is very painful so I still trying but with the help of the crutches cause the pain is so strong that I can't do it without crutches for now so I just want to start my therapy asap.
Hi yeya163. At first walking in the shoe will be painful. Gradually increase your weight bearing and your activity and it will get better with time. And yes, physio. Good luck to you and thanks for watching.
Third toe fusion with a bump on bottom of foot under third toe what's the outcome can be expected from surgery which I have yet to go through but been putting it off
Hi mr62686. So the vast majority of 5th metatarsal fractures do not require surgery. Usually a cast or a boot for 6-12 weeks. Every case is different though so best to discuss with your treating surgeon. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Talking With Docs thanks for replying! I did visit my doctor but he didn’t really instruct me to be wearing anything. I did have an old boot from my ankle fracture so I’m using that. Am I able to walk with it?
Hello docs! I have been diagnosed with an avulsion fracture today and my question is will the swelling disappear and would you recommend a short or tall boot? And can I use the boot without crutches? Watching this video has made me understand the words the doctor was using. Thanks!
Hi Oralys. All very good questions. Every case is a little different but generally speaking a short boot is sufficient for foot fractures. Using crutches is okay but not necessary. We tell our patients that if you can weight bear, you can use crutches for balance but that they are not necessary. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the great video guys! I have a 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture. I’ve been walking in an air boot for 3 weeks and have no swelling or pain anymore. Next X-ray is in 3 weeks, I’m praying it’s healed so I can get back to work. How important will physio therapy be? Budget is a bit tight right now so trying to avoid it if I can but will if it’s crucial. Thanks fellas
Hi Cody. The muscles of balance get weak and tired so doing something is important. There may be something on youtube. We don't have one of this yet. Good luck. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
sir I have met with an accident and my little finger(middle phalanges) was broken and doctor treated me with a splint. sir after healing ,the healed bone gains normal bone strength and is there any chance to break while punching after healing?
Hi ravi. It would likely have the same strength as it did before and same risk of fracture while punching. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I feel so much better after watching this video. I broke my foot a week ago, and we leave for vacation in just over a week from today. I've been resting it elevated since it was broken, and haven't put any weight on it at all in hopes that it will heal faster. I have been very worried that I'd have to spend my vacation in a wheelchair, but this video has given me reassurance & hope that I will be able to walk with my aircast/boot and do/see all the things that we were originally planning to do. (Nothing crazy of course, just museums & walking). I'm far less nervous for what my doctor will say when I return for a check-up before my trip.
My ankle popped a week ago and I feel up the stairs and did dance know I can’t walk and I see red dots forming do you think what it is if I need to go to the er
Hi Hi Hater. It is hard to say the cause of your problem. Best to get assessed to find out the diagnosis. Good luck. Thanks for watching and for subscribing if you did.
Doctors. I'm close to surgury(Friday, the 12th), and frankly my foot FEELS and LOOKS FINE! No Swelling, NO pain on palpation whatsoever. I can even put it in my regular loafers. But (she's not that aggressive) she is of the opinoin that now, nearly 8 weeks later, both radiographs are almost identical. From March 15 to April 26th. The break occurred on the 1st of March. She's not aggressive, but believes I'm wasting precious recovery time. she is adamant: "This is NOT going to make Union, Paul-" " I wish it were otherwise-"
Hi Paul. Your situation is somewhat unique in that you sound like you had an open wound in the area of the fracture site. If this happened at the time of the initial injury, many patients would go on to have surgery from the beginning to deal with the soft tissue and subsequently with the bone. Open fractures do have a higher incidence of infection and non union. It is not unreasonable that you are having second thoughts if you have no symptoms related to your foot however. The best recommendation is to discuss it with your surgeon before the day of surgery. Hopefully that helps
Hi guys this is a great video. Ive broken my 5th Metacarsal, the dancers fracture, 3 days ago. I have a boot at the moment and on wednesday i have an appointment with a specialist at the hospital. This has taught me a lot, i really dont want surgery. Its a zone 3 fracture right in the middle it looks quite bad. Do you think they will suggest surgery? Im an athlete but im happier to wait longer and take supplements rather than go through surgery
This video helped alot thanks Docs! Fractured my 5th metatarsal (avulsion) running (shoe landed, ankle twisted, landed on it) and i feel like supplements help because i know my diet is good but isn't perfect and was actively running/lifting weights at least 4 days out of the week when this occured. After two and half weeks, the pain was down to the point ive stopped taking and weaning myself off the ipubrofen and i was actually able to bear some weight, but not enough to test my foot bearing all my weight off the crutches, I'm definitely not pushing it since i'm not in physical therapy. I couldn't even sit in the shower or toilet bearing weight the first few days, but after two and a half weeks i was actually able to get my shoe on and stand on it with minimal weight bearing pain, i only did this for a few seconds because i didnt wanna push it and def felt the fracture site with minimal pain. Not much pain, I was in the bed for two weeks (no work because i was supposed to be on vacation) with my foot wrapped elevated majority of this time and icing at least twice a day the first week. The first couple of days was pain and inflammation, but the 2nd week was weird because the inflammation was gone...but the fracture site and bone was very stiff and i felt ALOT of small pulses and tremors in both areas while my foot was elevated and resting. and now im in week 3 only wearing the air cast/moon boot traveling at work (still using the crutches) and though its slow, its healing. The boot actually brings me pain (due to thr weight of it and being a bit too small), but i threw a dr scholls foot cushion in it and definitely helped. I'm sticking to these supplements everyday. Calcium, vitamin D, Fish Oil, Osteo Bi Flex Triple Strength, GNC mega mens energy and metabolism. Every morning, whey protein shake with yogurt and whole almonds, sometimes a apple as well. Kinda flying blind here since i wasn't given much info besides given the name of the fracture and told i wouldnt be able to walk for another 6-8 weeks and def not running for 3-4 months.
Hi james. So that is a lot of information. Balanced diet is the best approach. Typically our patients start weightbearing as soon as pain permits and get off crutches as soon as pain permits. Usually no running for 3-4 months sounds about right. Good luck and keep us posted. Thanks for watching.
@@TalkingWithDocs sorry to talk a hole in ya head doc, but most of that was for people similar going thru what i am to put them at ease. My er doctor definitely didnt give me much direction, but ur video did! Thanks again for the reply!!
Update for the docs and those wondering about heal time. So at 6 weeks, i forced myself to start walking on two crutches for a week, it hurt the tendons and ligaments in my foot from soreness and minimal fracture pain, foot was swollen and inflammed. At 7 weeks i went to one crutch, and felt the same amount of pain like i was in 6 weeks because im putting more weight on it, minimal to no fracture site pain, foot was partly inflammed most of it returning to regular color. Im two days into 8 weeks and i began walking with no crutches without the medical shoe and wow. I put a dr Scholl's athletic insole in one of my slip on arkk shoes and there was very minimal pain. I walked about 2 or 3 miles and my foot and leg was very sore,.my ankle was very wobbly too. I slept for a very long time when i came home (14 hours) and when i woke up a few hours later i went out again, i was definitely stronger but still soreness at the bottom of my foot. Little to no pain at fracture site. I wore compression socks and have been using the exogen 4000 since week 4. I use a roller on the bottom my foot every morning And it helps tremendously.
I have a displacemnt off the tip of the bone , avulsion fifth metatarsal , and the DPM wants to operate to align the tip back to the bone or removing it, want to know if this is right or there is option to let it heal naturally if possible and long term affect If no surgery, and could i start walking on it with min weight with crutches. Let assume that tip will not union ba k to the bone but may some what healed but seperated from the bone, is thisnpossible and will i have issue later? Appreciate your hep . Steve
I broke the 5 metatarsal 3 different times in 4 years, and this is the 1st video I've seen about it. I've also always been in a boot. The first was was a stress and the rest I knew exactly what I did. (I was a gymnast)
just wanted to know how long does a dispalced 5th metatarsal fracture take the heal. and when should be able to work on that foot. and what supplements should i take to heal the fracture, im using a bone stimulator
just broke 5th metatarsal trail running coming down mountain. Turned foot inwards, heard crack so I limped down the rest of the way. Am now in boot, 5th day swelling subsiding now. Question is should I ice and alternate heat foot every day to aid healing or some combination thereof? I have always applied heat to injuries over the years once swelling has gone. Great Video, u two are a good combination, and a great comment section, a community of people with broken foot experiences and lots of real word feedback. Many thx in advance.....
Hi keltmon1. Thanks for the positive feedback. So ice or heat is a common question. So heat brings in blood supply which can aid in healing and sometimes relief - but can also increase swelling and throbbing. Ice, on the other hand, reduces blood suppy, freezes the nerves somewhat and helps reduce pain and swelling. Usually our advice is if you are going to use both, use the heat first. Good luck on your recovery and thanks for watching. Keep us posted.
The exact same thing happened to me yesterday. Coming down on an 11,000 foot mountain. The trail had loose gravel and yeah i fell and fractured it. I’ll be taking Vitamin D3 + K2 and Magnesium to hopefully expedite recovery time. So how’s your foot now?
Hey Dr. Weening Just wanted to let you know that after 8 months and an intramedullary screw fixation by your buddy Danny my super annoying Jones Fracture has finally HEALED!!! Whoot Whoot! I do think this video needs an update though now 😜 Keep up the great work on all these informative videos - you two are a fabulous pairing!!
I had sprain four weeks ago.. my foot slammed on the foor in an inverted position. I had bruising and swelling especially on the side of the foot.. But my foot improved everyday and i could walk normally after two weeks.. But now i feel there is a slightly bony part below the fifth toe. I dont know if I should worry about it or wait a few more days/ weeks maybe it will fully heal.
Hi kginmyheart. It is hard to say exactly what your injury is. It may be related to some bruising or soft tissue injury and less likely related to a fracture. If the pain persists or gets worse, you should likely see a health care professional about it. Good luck.
Thank you for this:) way more info than I received from my ortho. I just went back in for my follow up (7 weeks) after complete non weight bearing (Jones fracture) and was told it was still broken. I was told I could weight bear as tolerated and just started doing that now. Is this typical that the fracture hasn’t healed. It’s non displaced. What is a realistic timeline? I am healthy and active and this has been brutal. Will walking with the boot if it’s still broken risk re-injury ? What could cause my bone to not be healing ? Thank you so much !
Hi Sonya. This is not uncommon and is related to the blood supply of this bone. Often it takes 12 weeks. Hope you are healed by now. All the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
I have a 4th metatarsal incomplete fracture. You can barely see it on the X-ray.I've spent 10 days, taken calcium and vitamin D supplements. Can I take a taxi and go to the beach? I really need to swim, as my back is starting to hurt...
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you for your answer! I don't seem to need the boot anymore, and I'm willing to try a gentle swim close to the shore. My foot doesn't hurt anymore. I cannot find any particular painful spot in my right sole. I'll take it easy.
Hello docs! Thank you both for such an informative video! I am one week in to my 5th metatarsal oblique fracture which is 3 mm displaced through the mid to distal shaft. The first Ortho said no surgery, and I could walk on it in a boot, so I did that, but was concerned I was causing further injury. Second Ortho opinion was to get surgery and no weight bearing so I’ve been staying off of it mostly. Your video made me feel better about holding off on surgery but now I’m worried walking on it with a boot for 5 days harmed me. How common is it to damage the fracture further by boot walking? Should I continue to stay off of it, or is some walking with boot okay? Thank you both so much for such a great video. Really informative and fun!
Wow! Thank you so much for such a fast response! You guys are the best! I’m off to Spain for 8 days with this break! 😅 At least it will be a beautiful place to heal! Thanks again gentlemen, keep being awesome!
Morning, doc I have a question it been now 1 a half year since my surgery rod inside my tibia why its get stiffness am a bus driver when am going for a long drive its get stiff a lot???
Hi Jay. Sometimes after injuries the affected limb will be stiff for prolonged periods of time and potentially even forever. Try to stay active. It is typically not dangerous unless associated with pain. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
I had a 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture. My orthopedic surgeon kept my foot in a soft dressing for 4 weeks. I started to bear weight during the third week though he told me to do so after second week. After six weeks I started to lift weights to see how much weight my foot could bear. At 7 weeks I could stand on it with 56kg on my back. However, I have slight pain at 5-10 degree when heel lifts of floor. I've targeted it with isometrics. I hold my foot in that position until a bit of pain starts and hold it for 20-30 seconds. I can almost walk normally though a bit of pain persists. My ortho said sports after 12 weeks total. I want to continue to lift weights. I don't know if that's off limits or not. It helped my pain during week 6 but now when I'm nearing full recovery I'm getting chicken and wonder if I should lay off the weights or continue.
Hi Zeeshan. Sounds like you are progressing well. The best way to know if you can increase what you are doing is a new xray that confirms union at the fracture site. Once you get the ok from your surgeon you will likely be able to lift the weights you are talking about. Hope that helps and good luck. Thanks for watching
Hi Zeeshan! Can you send me the xray of your foot if you dont mind? I’m also suffering from the avulsion now and it’s on its 2nd week. Im hoping i can walk without my crutches on.
for a non discplaced 4th metarsal fracture what would you guys think? Ive been wearing inflatable tall leg CAM boot. my doc says for 4-5 weeks. I feel like I could almost get away with Hoka or stiff shoes. But ive been wearing the CAM boot
Thank you for your video, very informative. I got fractures in my 5th Metatarsal. This is my 2nd month, 8 weeks after surgery. It because of 3 doctor said that I need surgery. At 4 weeks old I can't do anything yet, I only move with one leg. In 6 weeks, the doctor said, things had improved but I still couldn't walk. so now I still use 2 sticks. I need advice, do I need therapy for recovery?
Thanks for the video , very informative . I’m in the first week of my broken foot and the swelling has gone down drastically, the pain has decreased but I’m feeling a lil shocking tingling feeling near the fracture. I have sensation in my foot and toes , can you explain?
Hi Karia. This sometimes happens related to the trauma and localized swelling. It will typically resolve with time. Good luck and keep us posted. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your response and kind words, this eased my mind because I was very worried! The buzzing feeling did go away and I’m on my 2nd week . I’m going to doctor on Monday for a follow up, will definitely keep you posted!
I visited the Dr yesterday and the bone is starting to mend . This is my 2nd week since the fracture and I have almost no pain, minimum swelling and the area on the side on my foot near the fracture is lightly bruised. An X-ray was taken and I could barely see the fracture, this is amazing!! I’m using an air boot and was prescribed Voltaren sr 75mg but I have no need to take them because the pain is minimum. I appreciate the information you guys provided, I will definitely be back to keep you updated . I forgot to ask my doctor if I can do some small exercises like moving my toes or rotating my ankle, I will call the office this morning. Thanks again!
I was crying all the day because I have tingling feeling and I am worried 😟 and because I wasn't in pain in the first week after I was hit by a car I don't know why in the second week I feel som pain and the tingling.
I fractured my 5th metatarsal on Sept. 16, 2017. Today is 05/17/2018. The fracture now is a noticeable complete break with large gap space. I have been using a bone growth stimulator as of today for 102 treatments(30 minutes every morning). Its painful as he'll, I have to pause when I'm out shopping etc. Meaning it hurts so bad for instance when I go to Wal-Mart or any other place that requires a lot of walking. I have to stop and rest, because of the pain. So, it started as a fracture on 09/16/2017 and last xray taken on May 09, 2018 shows a complete break and total separation in area of the initial fracture. The gap is about a half inch. I go back to see the Orthopaedic sports doctor July 9, 2018. I am a Disabled Veteran, but allowed to see outside doctors. I have all the xrays dating back to 09/16/2017-05/09/2018. They clearly show the initial fracture to the point of actual break and separation gap now. What should I do. Its very painful, my doctor and I viewed his latest xray together in his office, and I voiced to him my concerns and limitations of mobility. Its been 8 months. Should I call doctor and insist that we go ahead and schedule corrective surgery or???????????? genehall1952@gmail.com
Hi Gene. By definition your fracture has gone on to be what is considered a delayed union and possibly a non union. The longer the fracture goes without healing the higher the chance that it would not heal without doing something further - like surgery. Your symptoms should guide your treatment decisions with the guidance of your surgeon. Good luck.
I fracture my 5th metatarsal i been wearing a boot for 2 weeks but I feel like it hurts sometimes and when I remove boot I feel relief. Can I just wear comfy shoes and stay off my foot instead? I feel like foot doctor gave me a boot and send me off I never worn a boot before they should provide a f.a.q booklet or soemthing
Hi Honeycomblife. We allow our patients to spend some time out of the boot when sitting but you should wear it while you are walking. If you want to discontinue its use this should be discussed with your treating surgeon. Good luck! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
My husband broke his 5th metatarsal 30 years ago and now in his 50’s, when he pedals hard on his trainer, the foot from time to time will swell and feel broken. The top notch PCP today took an x-ray and said no break or fracture. Please help. Is it a stress fracture or something else?
5th metatarsal oblique fx- 6weeks out. How does walking on foot versus not walking on foot help heal fracture more quickly? Also, when I push on an a certain area of foot, I still feel pain. Does this mean that area(where pain is) is still non-unioned? Thanks!
Tips on how to heal from a sprained ankle after 12 weeks from a fifth metatarsal fracture & sprain? It still gets swollen and feels sprained and feel pain when bearing weight, still unable to walk without the help of crutches. Been using ultrasound stimulator, taking vitamin D, magnesium and calcium the first month of the injury
Hi docs, I have a transverse facture of the proximal end of the proximal phalanx of the 5th toe on my right foot with minor varus deformity. So it is completely snapped and turned outwards I was just wondering if there is a video or advice on what surgery I need? Thankyou.
Hi Leah. Often fractures of the toe do not require surgery. They sometimes can be reduced (or manipulated) back into place to make them more straight. Even if the bone heals slightly crooked this is often well tolerated with minimal functional impact. These are good questions to discuss with your treating doctor. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
So it means the bone has healed in a position other than it’s anatomical one. Sometimes it doesn’t matter. Sometimes you have to rebreak it and then realign it.
I broke my fifth metatarsal back in June 2023 and got surgery for it. I thought it was not a big deal after twisted it inside out playing soccer in my patio. A big ball appeared right after the incident and decided not to go to the doctor because I had tickets for Disneyland 😂. Anyways I went to Disneyland for two days taking ibuprofen and pain relievers. I came back went to ER and discovered my bone was broken. I wore the Skii boot for 2 months. I thought I was good to go back to work and my normal life. After 2 months I re fractured because my bone didn’t have union. End up having surgery because I didn’t take good care of the fracture.
Hi Roxyyy. So usually it would require a cast or boot. Often for 6 weeks or so. And usually some weightbearing. Best to discuss with your surgeon though. Good luck! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
I popped my ankle then it was healing 5 days later I fell up the stairs and did dance know I can’t t walk and it’s red and looks weard what do you think it is
Hi Christmas Vibes. It is likely an ankle sprain especially if you can walk on it. If the pain continues you should see your doctor and get an xray to rule out a fracture. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
8 weeks 58 days after my 5th metatarsal fracture. I still walk with a limp. I can ride a bike. I can go up and downstairs. It feels better. but it still is not healed. The doctor told me I can walk, there is no risk of "non-union" at this point. and I should go see the doctor after the 3 month mark for another xray. when I try to walk normal I feel uncomfortable. it scares me so I walk slowly on purpose. I started going to the gym today only doing machine exercises and avoiding squats, deadlift and any foot weight baring exercise as much as possible. I wonder if my foot will be back to normal to play sports after one month. I really hope so. The Paul and Brad say in this video 3-6 with full range of motion months to go back to sports. I really want to go hiking. but I am not sure I should. thank you so much for the video again.
HI Mario. Thanks for sharing. Hang in there. Often the last bit of healing can be slow. Wait for the last xray before high impact activity. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Who else is watching this with a broken 5th metatarsal?
Jodiee, you should watch this dancer's video about recovering from a metatarsal fracture, if you haven't. ruclips.net/video/YeGgklnRdG4/видео.html
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i am watching...having twisted my left foot while walking last night...i heard a cracking sound at the time of incident ..now it is swelled horribly and i cant weigh on it at all
If you come here wondering how long it’s gonna take for you to heal:
I snapped my 5th metatarsal in half, right in the middle of the bone in my left foot. The bone was still aligned properly though. I was back running a little over 2 months later!
I know everyone heals differently but just wanted to share my experience with this injury.
Did you go to doc? What treatment you followed? I think I ve got the same with you, but I don t know what to do
@@brakasaka3376 I just had surgery and my doctor said it will take 2 months to be able to go back to where i was
Villaneve What kind of surgery? How was your recovery? I’m getting surgery on my displaced 5th metatarsal fracture. It’s been nearly 8 weeks & hasn’t healed
@@lecyvee3619 I fractured my 5th metatarsal last week and the doctor said that i should get surgery immediatly. And in two weeks I am having my stiches removed. I hope everything works well with your operation.
@@brakasaka3376 Yeah I went to the ER when it happend. Got a cast and then later went to a specialist. I stayed of the foot and kept it elevated when resting.
I broke my 5th metatarsal 2 weeks ago- avulsion fracture, I wore a tall air boot cast for a week, short boot cast for 4 days while at work and nothing at home and now a tight stiff shoe when out but able to totally weight bear and almost back fully functioning! Proper rest and immediate integration of physio and strengthening exercises helped immensely- defiantly only do what your doctor recommends, I’m glad I’ve been lucky enough to keep pain to a minimum and still maintain a somewhat normal life!
Glad to hear you are well on the road to recovery Vanessa. Thanks for sharing your story. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Have your bones moved together?
@@AVYONE I’m not sure what you mean- but my foot has been fully healed for several months now.
How long would it say it took for your foot to fully heal?
@@Angel-jt2pl it took about 12 weeks to fully heal, but it had most function and no pain after about 4-5 weeks
Thanks guys. Fractured my 5th metatarsal 8 weeks ago. Decided to “walk it off” in a short CAM boot for 7 weeks. Feels like it never happened.
Nice work Malacan1!
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you for a very informative video. I'm 3 days in with a short cast and you have answered many of my concerning questions. Questions I would have otherwise needed to go back to my DR to ask, costing me more money, time and hassle.
So glad we could help!
I got Hit during very light sparring in kickboxing, actually I was hitting with some strange kick and guy blocked the kick with elbow. I did not feel like it hurt much, but when I got home, it was red a bit .... days later bruised and I could walk but was limping a bit and there was decent amount of pain but nothing too bad.
Compressed it with gaze.... and did not do anything about it. Now it has been 2 months later, most of the time feels like nothing ever happened, and that it was not fractured, but there is slight discoloration around area, very mild, however bone on that side now seems a tiny bit thicker than the other one, also at times slight pain comes up for a second so i guess it was not harmless as I tought at the beggining.
I'm in 8 week, still can't walk, it hurts to put all my weight on my foot.
May God bless you both. Finally, some decent info and not, call the ambulance.
Hi L B. So glad you like our videos. It is difficult to give specific advice but we feel strongly that information is power. Thanks so much for your encouraging words.
Broke 5th Metatarsal yesterday. Elevating certainly helps with pain.
However, maneuvering while 37 weeks pregnant is tough. Emotions are running high along with managing pain tolerance and not knowing when babygirl will pop before due date.
What a wonderful time to break my left 5th metatarsal 🦶🤰🏼
Thanks Docs for giving me more info as I try to seek out an orthopedic today.
Blessings.
I had this fracture 5 weeks ago, today my doctor remove my cast (no surgery) and im literally crying because i cant walk, i was so holpfull it wouldnt be this hard BUT IT HURTS and im so afraid to break my foot or just falling again into the flor. Thanks docs, this is an amazing video, its helping me lear more about my injury and giving me a bit of patience. Greatings from Perú!
How is it going? It’s been a month and I cannot walk without crutches and I’m still in boot although my doc told me that I have to put weight from day 20. Will you do physical therapy?
Hi Silvana. It should get better. Gradually increasing your weight bearing. Use ice. Elevation. Best of luck to you in Peru! Thanks for watching and subscribing
I’m 5 weeks now and I get it off tommorow I’m so scared I need to get back to hockey this stupid break is holding me back
Fractured my 3rd, 4th, and 5th metatarsal several months ago falling off a ladder at work. Starting swelling pretty much instantly! Orthopedic Doc reccomended and performed the pin surgery with a pin going down each of the messed up toes. Put it in a cast and it healed up in no time. (Getting those pins removed felt really uncomfortable and weird though lol!) Cheers for the informative vid!
Hi JMP. Glad you like the video and great to hear that you are doing well. Keep up the good work.
Just shy of 3 months since my fracture, I'm doing well (probably at 80-85% of normal) and back to riding horses for the last month. It's really helped me that I bought a wide heavier New Balance shoe to help me transition from the boot. There is light at the end of the tunnel!
Hi lbarbados38. Glad to hear you are on the mend! Keep it up and thanks for watching!
Hello talking Docs! I just wanted to say thank you for your video. I got rid of my walking shoe two days ago, which marked the magic number of exactly six weeks. I was told to slowly ramp up and let my foot tell me how much is possible. So far I'm already walking quite comfortably with only small occasional annoyances. Your video has calmed me down on my decision to take conservative treatment (1 doctor suggested surgery, 2 were against it). Thank you again and please keep up the informative and humorous content!
Hi Felix! Glad that you found our video helpful and humorous. We do our best to keep it light but useful. Usually the foot fractures do very well but it is a long process which is often annoying and makes people anxious once they are out of the boot. Good luck with getting back to normal and playing those guitar covers!
So with a fracture and displacement of the fifth metarsal avulsion, this is still good not to operate and let the natural healing process takes it course…. I am not an athlete so a little longer time to heal is fne without the need for surgery. As always, your videos always helps and teach us to be more aware of the options , thank you so much. Steve
Great information. I am at the 3 month point following a 5th metatarsal fracture. I am still working on muscle strength it felt like I was learning to walk again. Did anyone see Victoria Beckham’s latest(2018) fracture? Hashtag tag no big deal and like a week later she was in Kenya and a week after that in heels. I guess compared to all of David Beckham’s injuries it pales in comparison. Felt very debilitating for me. My tip is keep your strength in the rest of your body it will be easier to get walking again if you only need to exercise your foot once healed. Plus the fear of re-injury cannot be ignored it is tough but there is way worse. I feel grateful so much info available. Cheers!
Hi JenuineAirbrushTan. Thanks for the positive feedback. It is important to recognize that every injury is different so recovery will also be very different. Good luck in your recovery.
I noticed that. Celebrities get the best care for who they are and because they can afford it. Have been feeling a bit of celebrity envy for this reason as they seem to bounce back in a few weeks while the rest of us have to do detective work on our lack of progress.
Hi Louise. There is some potential for celebrities to have access to better care however the majority of orthopedic surgeons are treating patients who are just normal people. And for this injury celebrities would get the same care - aircast. They may consider a bone stimulator which is expensive that can speed up healing but usually is not necessary. Don't be envious - can you imagine if someone was ready to take a picture every time you took a bite of foot at a restaurant?
Fractured my 5th metatarsal last night, luckily my moms a formal nursing assistant. I'm glad to have some more information. :)
Hi Allyson. Sorry to hear about the fracture. Best of luck going forward and be safe. Thanks for watching.
Did you get surgery for it?
@@stevethai2836 Nope, but I wore a boot for a few weeks.
best youtubers ever!! congrats docs!
Marc vallejo cervera yes, very clear explanation!
Thanks so much mark v. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
sitting watching this with a very displaced 5th metatarsal of the main shaft and struggling to get surgeons in the UK to agree to surgery - super reluctant to leave it to chance that the fracture will heal well enough to return to a fully functioning foot which won't give me problems for the rest of my life (as i've heard can be the case...) have come to the internet for guidance and info!
Often the shaft fractures do well without surgery. Good luck!
I got more information from these two than the Dr in A&E. thank you👍🏼
Glad it was helpful Darleny! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
You guys are the Bomb ! Thankyou ! I busted my 5th metatarsal an hour ago and although I'm in a tonne of pain, you've made me feel alot better. X ray tomorrow will tell me just how well I've done it .
Thanks so much Richard! Best of luck with your xray. Let us know what happened. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
How is your foot now?
@@petems3283 4 weeks on. Pain just stopped (not that it was that bad) still in a boot and will play it safe for another 2 weeks given it was a reasonably displaced fracture but not quite a jones.
@@richardb9017 right. I broke my 4th meta, 2 yrs ago. Pain and swelling for 4 weeks. After that got the temporary boot on for short periods. Back to work around the 10 week period but confined to ground floor. I think 4 months until all ok. 2 years on its still sensitive but I'm 58, so. Keep me updated and good luck. It sucks but it passes.
@@petems3283 im a chiro and have been lifting 150kg in the air back to back patients from day 2. Should be ok I think. Man you had a long recovery ! I'm 42
Hi Docs!
Thank you for this very informative video. 7 weeks ago, I fell over a step. I have a closed displaced fracture of the neck of the 5th metatarsal (left foot). I've been in a tall CAM walker boot for 7 weeks - one more week to go. I don't have much pain at this point but I'm apparently healing kind of slowly, so I was told to wear the boot for 8 weeks instead of 6. I only wear the boot when I'm standing and/or walking (not when I'm sitting or laying down).
Here's my question: When the boot is off and I'm laying down, is it a good idea for me to move my foot around to help re-strengthen my foot and prevent atrophy? I've been doing circles with my ankle, pivoting my foot up and down from the ankle, and slowly closing and opening my toes. Sports Medicine doctor said yes I should - Podiatrist said no I shouldn't. What do you think? Thank you VERY much.
Best regards, K
Hi Kara. With respect to physio, you are able to start moving your foot and ankle as the bone starts to heal. The degree to which you do this should be discussed with your treating surgeon. Good luck.
I somehow hurt my foot in March. I think it is from the foot massage g machine my husband bought me. I have done ice/heat, physical therapy, taping my foot, xray, pain gel, referred to podiatrist who did MRI of peroneal area that showed nothing but he gave me an injection for fluid behind bone. That didn't do anything. Went back to primary and got referred to a sports medicine doc. He thinks it is a fracture on 5th metatarsal (right where it juts out). Oh my gosh! The boot is almost like heaven. I almost feel like doing a footectomy. Tonight (morning) can't sleep from all this burning, stinging, tearing feeling. I am thankful I get an MRI of the corre t area today and follow-up next week.
Thanks for your video. 10 months of pain is too long!
Good luck Jeanne and we hope they find the cause! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Just ended up with a Jones fracture a few weeks ago, clean and non displaced, you literally can barely see it on X ray, stopped hurting as soon as the swelling went down but it's there. It's scary and frustrating, and my doctor really pushed for conservative treatment (CAM boot with NWB) which is also scary and frustrating for an active person like I am worried about getting back on both feet and about rebreaks. Thanks for your video, it's done a lot more to reassure me than the actual doctor who treated me. Any advice? I know just be patient, but it's tough. First available surgery date for a screw wasn't until almost six weeks out from the break anyway so I think I'm going to ride this out. I kid you not, your video is probably the most encouraging thing anyone on the internet says about Jones fractures treated conservatively.
Hi Robert. Thanks for the positive comments. We have always tried to be open and honest about treatment risks and complications and in our practice, the vast majority of these fractures go on to heal without surgery. So glad we could be of assistance. Good luck and keep healing!
Thought I'd give an update. At 7.5 weeks the xrays showed enough healing to walk in a CAM walker and with weight bearing the healing really accelerated. At 12.5 weeks from fracture (last week) I was cleared to return to shoes and to full activities slowly. Right now I'm still walking with a limp and the foot gets a little sore at the end of the day but normal life is that much closer. Thank you guys for your video, it really helped.
Hi Robert. That is really great news. Sometimes these fractures can take a long time but thankfully they do heal most of the time. You are very welcome. And good luck with the rest of your recovery
Wish one of you guys was working in the ER when I fractured it for the first time back in October of 2020. I was playing golf and was hitting out of a hazard (I know, what did I hit it in the hazard for?) when my foot gave way and it felt like my foot imploded. I went to the emergency room after I tried and hit one more shot and realized that was not terribly bright. The guy xrayed it and said it was sprained and not fractured. I tried to stay off of it and follow the medical advice. I still was walking my two dogs every day and it was only marginally improving. In late January of 2021, I was walking my dogs and my foot folded up like a taco. I figured a trip to the ER was a waste of time because I was certain I got bad advice the first time so I went to a specialist. They told me I had fractured it and they were able to access the first X-ray and said it was fractured the first time. The specialist had me in a non walking boot for about 4 months. Long story short is it hasn't really improved a whole lot. My foot is shaped like an old patriot three cornered hat. It starts the day okay but gets worse through the day. Just went to another specialist last week and he said I have a non union fracture. He wants me to do the electric pulsating device to stimulate bone growth. He said of that doesn't work, I should consider letting them rebrake it and putting a screw in it. I fear the first misdiagnosis has sent me down a path of just having to deal with it and waiting for it to rebrake on its own. I'm afraid to play golf on any course with any slope because it feels so unstable and is just a matter of time before it breaks again. What do you guys think about the machine that stimulates bone growth? Is it the real deal? Love to hear any thoughts. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Next time, I'm taking the penalty out of the hazard and will take a drop!
Hi Thomas. Yes take the drop. There is some evidence that ultrasound bone stimulators can help stubborn fractures. And if that doesn’t work yes surgery is the final option. Wishing you the best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I got the bone stimulator from Exogen. It cost me $800, but totally worth it.
thank you for that information , i have a question , should i keep icing or heating or both ? i have been icing it for two days , how long should i do it for or should i stop ?
Hi Dancersdiary. Heat will commonly make an injury feel better by bringing more blood supply to the area. Ice aids in recovery by reducing swelling and providing a local numbing effect to reduce pain. Both are a good idea depending on the scenario. You can continue to do this until you recover. Hope that helps.
@Talking With Docs Thank you for a very informative video. I'm 3 days in with a short cast and you have answered many of my concerning questions. Questions I would have otherwise needed to go back to my DR to ask, costing me more money, time and hassle.
Hi KustomSigns. Thanks for your positive feedback. Glad we could help!
Finally a decent explanation...🙏😣 Thank you!
Hi Dalia. Thanks so much! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Hey docs! I fractured my foot 8 years ago going down stairs accidentally took stairs at once, ouch 😣 thanks for the video! You guys are the best!
Oh man be careful Alida. Thanks for watching and subscribing
how. long do I have to wait till I can skateboard again after breaking fifth metatarsal? will I be able to do tricks and jump? and also will my bone be strong enough again? like after 5 months?
How soon a patient can return to sport or other activities is a very individualized decision based on the severity of the initial injury, the healing to date, the age and health of the patient as well as the activity that they want to return to. Often more aggressive activities like skateboarding cannot be resumed for longer periods of time but would continue to carry the risk of repeat injury. That decision would be based on your physician's physical examination and other investigations like serial xrays.
Exactly the same happened to me... how did it turn out for you ?
Never had xrays but about 2 and 1/2 months ago i landed on my ankle trying to ollie a 4 stair, something i had done before but got complacent with. Over committed and destroyed what i believe is my fifth meta tarsal. Had severe bruising on both sides of the foot and all the way up into the toes. After about 6 weeks i could ride again but no flip tricks, they would cause server pain on the injury and felt like they were setting it back. Skated today with some flip tricks and still minor pain from time to time. Best bet is to probably wait 3 months before doing any skating, i wish i had fought the temptations to get back on the board
I fractured my 5th metatarsal. I was in a cast for 6 weeks. Now I’m in a boot for 4 weeks. I feel pain, which seems to be nerve pain. I hope I heal completely and fast. Thanks for the video.
You can do it!
I'm only finding videos about 5th metatarsal. I broke the 4th & 5th, & I've got a Karate/Kickboxing/Eskrima-Kali-Arnis event in 4 weeks. My wife thinks that I should cancel, but I'm hoping it will be fine in a month
Hi Renshi. Never say never but usually they won’t be healed enough for karate at 4 weeks. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I have a nondisplaced zone 3 fracture, doc told me 95% effective with a screw. I opted for that success option vs. watch/wait and see if it heals and take a 15-20% chance for malunion. Thank you for the information docs!
Hey thanks for making this video... I've been suffering for years with pain, on and off and looking for answers...Your video was the 1st one to pop up! If you push on the nub of the 5th bone & I go through the roof. It seems to hurt even when i'm off my feet. It literally comes & goes in waves and even feels like the pain goes up that side a little bit....Like right now i have my feet up, no pain, but 2 minutes ago, it was killing me, still with feet up...uggh I FINALLY went to a doctor last week, told me i need orthotics. Never did an x-ray or anything, but this has been happening for years...SO frustrating.... I don't walk right anymore, the only time i walk right is when i have so much padding on my foot so the pain isn't so bad....I'm thinking he should of ordered an x-ray, but then i think what could they really do anyway if they did do an xray since i've had this for years?? I mean not to put you out of a job, but foot surgery is scary shit...lol
Did you go to the doctor?
What part of your 5th bone did you hurt?
How are you now??
@@AVYONE with the right padding, it's better. Yes, went to doctor. There was really nothing they could do. Stress fractures, I believe it was. It comes & goes. I have NO idea what causes it or why it comes & goes! Weird! Thanks for asking!
@@aliecaruso you might be able to get cortisol shots for pain if it’s consistent / affecting your life?? My mother used to get those in her foot every month or so. Maybe something worth looking into? Best of luck to you 🖤
@@Angel-jt2pl Thanks for the info!
Hi Alison. Sorry for delay. Love your profile pic. Hope it all worked out! Thanks for watching and subscribing
THANK YOU so much for this video. I'm a RN & I wk in a ortho rehab facility(5⭐). I rolled my ankle yesterday going downstairs but I couldn't figure out why my metatarsal hurts so much--it hurts to walk at all! This info is perfect for people like me who avoid the dr visits unless absolutely necessary.
Hi FlyAlphaRN. You are very welcome! Glad to hear that we can help in any way. We are doing our best to allow people to make informed decisions about their own health. Thanks for watching!
Hi, i fractured my fifth metatarsal a few days ago.. however, i'm getting more pain from the inside of my foot on the ( i think) cuneiform navicular. Is this common? thanks.
Hi Jack. When you break any bone in your foot, you will often change your gait and the way you load your foot so some of the pain can be compensatory. Whether or not some of the other bones of your foot are involved in your injury would require a physical examination, review of your imaging and possibly further imaging if there is ongoing suspicion. Good luck.
Thank you doctors for your amazing information and you guys are funny too I'm about to have surgery on my foot I broke my second and third toe my metatarsal bone and I'm about to have surgery soon and I'm scared I never had surgery before and I don't know how it is and I don't know how I'm going to feel I'm from Los Angeles California so wish me luck doctors
Was just walking in my backyard on old tennis shoes doing some work and all of a sudden felt pain. Went to Podiatrist three days later and after a set of X-Rays, the Doc said yes, you broke it. Whaaaaat... Ok, It's an Avulsion Fracture and was given a Walking Boot.
One week removed and it feels better. A follow up in three weeks and hopefully the new X-rays will show improvement.
Nice easy2120. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Yes I broke a bone in 5th metatarsal and doc put me in a boot right away. For 2 weeks I thought it was just a sprain but sure enough x-ray showed me a broken bone. I am hopin when I return this week he says no more boot! It honestly doesn't hurt much!
3-6 months? I cannot wait that long before returning to gym - sure I can do some other stuff. I fractured my foot January 20th. Flying to South Africa on Feb 28th. Boot or no boot, I gotta travel.
Ilse De Beer how was your trip and your lucky i want to go to africa but my mom doesn't
I been like this since november 28 is january 25 ans still at home. Recovery its sucks
I landed on a shell while running, rolled my foot and broke my fifth metatarsal (classic!). I was back in the gym the following week. realizing I had a foot injury, I went directly to a foot and ankle specialist who put by on crutches in a boot. I was back in the gym with his blessing the following week doing one-legged rowing and the hand cycle. I was on crutches for five weeks, but I continued on weight machines where I could sit and eventually when I could bear weight I took on more at the gym. When I graduated to a surgical shoe I was told I can deadlift and squat - anything that didn't involve impact. I'm an olympic weightlifter and I run for cardio, so staying out of the gym drives me insane. The doctor told me that so long as I didn't put any pressure on the injured foot at first I could go to the gym and that getting your heart pumping, and eventually weight training all help the bone heal. I also took zinc, copper, 5,000 IU vitamin D3, calcium, Lysine, Taurine, K2, magnesium, Omega-3, ate a ton of sardines and greens and used an exogen device. So, you don't have to wait that long to return to the gym, you just have to really tailor your workout to accommodate your injury.
Hi I just fractured my fifth metatarsal last Wednesday on vacation. For the past three years I have been going to the gym really intensely. So far I know that my fracture was "minimally displaced" and mid shaft. I am trying to figure out when I can go back. I was able to do little things today at home that are easy like donkey kicks but i don't want to move backwards. Do you have any ideas for workouts with this injury? I just don't want to lose the muscle I have built in my legs.
I did to walking to the corner store 😃 same day
Thx so much for this video. I suffered an oblique fifth metatarsal fracture at the shaft that was displaced. This was April 15, 2016. I was put in an Aircast for 8 mos (yes, eight months) and at 5 mos, after no healing seen, an Exogen bone stimulator was begun at 20m daily for 3 mos. I was told after that it looked "ok" and I could continue the stimulator "if I wanted to". Imagine my shock that it felt the same but I was told it was fine so I plugged on.
Saw a podiatrist 2 weeks ago and he did an MRI and the same fx was seen with displacement, nonunion, etc. now we are trying 6 weeks more of bone stim, vitamin D, and I'm going to try to "go easy" on it myself as I'm a relatively poor surgical candidate. I'm just very angry that surgery will be required thereafter and will be much more extensive than I would've needed last year. I'm told this will require bone grafting. Anyone who has had this surgery or can provide any info, will u please contact me? Thx!
Glad you enjoyed the video. It sounds like you are doing all of the right things - immobilization, vitamin D (you should watch the video) and the bone stimulator. There is some evidence that use of bone stimulators can overcome non unions in certain situations - let's hope you are such a case. Good luck.
Talking With Docs I'm praying I'm one of these patients but am a little hesitant since I used the bone stim last year for 3 mos, with no success. But I'm hoping in the next 6 weeks I see improvement! Thx for the reply! Oh and I'll def check out the vitamin D video!
You are very welcome.
I think there comes a time in the "post-injury phase" that a "displaced break-" Not a fracture, anymore-- should be addressed quicker than that. One CANNOT continue to use Crutches and Knee Scooters for 6-8 months.
It's psychologically crazy.
I am not a doctor, but one is simply putting off the inevitible.
If there's NO UNION after 6 weeks, I would Opt for the Surgery. The Surgery is relatively simply for podiatric surgeons or orthopedic surgeons. The 5th Metatarsal is a Common Break.
I have that right now. It happened in March. I felt nothing. No Pain, no swelling, but I felt the weakness and the Bone Bruising. a "Bump" appeared on the dorsal(top) part of the foot. Then the more I walked, the more Pinching and burning sensations I felt. And finally, I said, "Hey, I have to have this looked at." Lo and behold, I had a rotated(because I continued to walk on it, not knowing I had a broken bone) and it has become displaced. It's not going to Join, and if it does, it's not going to be correct.
Solution? Listen to the Surgeon. I'm having my surgery Next Friday, the 12th. It's out patient.
I'll be home, in some pain and must stay off, NWB for 6 to 8 weeks. Best get started on the healing process.
Don't procrastinate. You're putting off the inevitible, AND frankly, you don't want to run the risk of an infection; do you?
That can lead to some really serious issues. Especially with an Open Fracture for several months? If the Infection gets into the Open ended bone, it can potentially get into your entire bloodstream. And then you'll have to have a PIC Line of Dripping Anti-Biotics.,
Get the surgery. Start the healing process as soon as you can
Paul Anthony First, before I forget, it's not an open fracture. I definitely haven't had bone hanging out of my skin at any point. Like u, I didn't have a lot of pain but noticed swelling and bruising and a lump on the side and top of my foot, along with crooked toes. Then I went in and the X-ray showed a fifth metatarsal fracture at the shaft, displaced. As I was a relatively poor surgical candidate, the doctor tried the aircast for 8 mos and started the Exogen bone stimulator at 6 mos. I was told then that it worked and things were fine but that I could continue the bone stimulator if I "wanted". When at a routine podiatry appt last month my doctor saw the toe abnormalities and did an X-ray, which was abnormal, then ordered an MRI, which showed the fracture looked the same, displaced fifth metatarsal, with floating bone fragments, as before. Because I'm a relatively poor surgical candidate, he wants to avoid surgery so we are trying increased vitamin D and a bone stimulator. If I have to have surgery at this point, unfortunately it wouldn't be typical fifth metatarsal surgery. It'll be more extensive with bone grafting from my hip, which I'm very leery of. So I'm praying this six weeks brings healing. But I would've definitely chosen surgery last year when it wasn't healing had the doctor made it clear it hadn't healed in August. I have no clue why he told me it was healed. Good luck to u!
Hi docs
I need some advice I have a avulsion fracture to the cuboid my whole foot is bruised and swelling is going down I have a boot I wear however I took it off and can semi walk (still limping with foot turning in ) if I walk without the boot will this make it worse it’s been 1 week today since I did it and am already over the boot got fracture clinic this coming Monday hopefully it has healed!
Hi aleesha. So every case is different but typically with an avulsion fracture we treat them like a severe sprain and that means an aircast boot for 4-6 weeks. The main reason is that you want the ligaments to heal short rather than long to reduce the risk of having an ankle that is chronically unstable. And after the 4-6 weeks, lots of physiotherapy. The swelling and bruising will gradually subside. Good luck to you! And thanks for watching.
I have 5th Metatrasal fracture, broken vertical with a piece almost broken off but still attached. Dr, said I can bare weight on day 17...does that seen too soon? I have a boot air cast on, how do I know if its okay to walk. It does hurt now and then sort of throbing ache on the site. Just want to knwo how to start walking without causing harm.
Hey thanks for this, my orthopedic foot specialist gave me zero info.
Hi lbarbados38. You are very welcome. Hopefully it helps you during the process. Thanks for watching!
as someone who has been over 400 pounds since high school i have had foot fractures about 20 times only 3 times did it hurt so much i needed to be seen but i walked funny for about 3 weeks to a month and then the pain slowly fades and one you try to remember when it stopped hurting and you went back to walking normally again
wish my feet were stronger or i weighted less but here i am
you are funny, very colloquial, thank you!
Doing our best Josefa. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00:02 *🦴 Overview of Fifth Metatarsal Fractures*
- The fifth metatarsal is a common site for foot fractures, often due to ankle rolling or tripping.
- The bone connects the toes to the midfoot and can fracture easily during everyday activities.
00:02:00 *❗ Symptoms and Initial Care for Fractures*
- Pain, swelling, and bruising are initial symptoms following an injury to the fifth metatarsal.
- Patients should seek medical attention for diagnosis, typically starting with a history and physical examination followed by x-rays.
00:04:00 *🩺 Treatment Options for Fifth Metatarsal Fractures*
- Treatment can include rigid footwear, casting, and potentially surgery if the fracture does not heal properly.
- Non-surgical options like the use of bone stimulators and vitamin D can aid healing.
00:06:00 *⚽ Recovery and Return to Sports*
- Recovery time can range from three to six months, varying with age and activity type.
- Focus on rehabilitation includes exercises for muscle strengthening and proprioception to prevent re-injury.
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All this talk about sports with this injury and my dumbass broke mine falling down two steps. 😂
Hi Sara. That's hilarious. You are not a dumbass. Sorry to hear you broke your foot but falling down the stairs is actually a common way to do it. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Thanks for watching!
so I fractured my fifth metatarsal over a year ago. The doctor explained I had had a premature break probably when I was in high school, sometime before 18. Long story short I never knew it was broken and it healed incorrectly, the growth plates never fused properly. Two winters ago and I came down on that bad foot really hard and instantly felt incredible pain and couldn’t put any weight on it, come to discover I broke my foot again, well fractured the fifth metatarsal. I had foot surgery over a year ago. i’ll like to work out and squall and dead lift and I still snowboard to a calmer degree. although it’s not much pain, still to this day I have a sensation of wobbly Ness and instability stemming right from that fifth metatarsal right up the ankle to the calf muscles.
The entire left side of my foot and lower leg rolls and folds inward by itself. I have almost no sensation of that tripod stability in the musculature of my foot. my main point is that I’ve went on basically ignoring the lack of stability and still pushing through rigorous feet and ankle conditioning and strengthening. but even a year after the left Ridge (pinky bone to the heel) feels so weak and tender. I find myself putting more strain on my knee and hips because I can’t produce enough drive from my surgery foot. I am a cigarette/pot smoker and never fully stopped through the healing process. Is this the reason my surgery foot still feels weak and unstable?
“Long story short lol” Sorry I was driving and using voice text… didnt realize the mouthful I left.
Hard to say without a proper assessment but possibly. Often it’s physio and sometimes bracing. Hope it gets better. Thanks for watching and subscribing
3rd bottle of wine?! This dr knows how to party hahaha
Hi Christina. Like a rock star. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Thanks guys. Lol I needed this just was coming off a broken big toe and literally missed a step, twisted my foot and broke my 5th metatarsal . So now I gotta finish doing exercises for my big toe and keep the boot on more and then make time to do my stretches and exercises for my 5th metatarsal too. All on the same foot 😓
Yikes! Be careful. Good luck during your recovery. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Mine brusied within 5 minutes... 😭😭
Hi food4444lyfe. Wow that is fast bruising! Hopefully you are on the mend. Thanks for watching.
Mine swelled up over night got so fat & the pain was in the back of my foot hurt so bad I cried almost every night the medicine still didn’t work
Well.... mine was bruised seconds after I broke the metatarsal. It was terrible pain and I couldn't even walk at all at that time
@@tikaaulia8803 I'm in my 8th week atm... I can start to weight-bare. But can't still walk properly... 🤬🤬
food4444lyfe ᑫueen βɪsh hey, how have you healed 4 months on? I’m at 11 weeks and minimal healing, lots of swelling ☹️
Last December 2018, I had 5th metatarsal fracture and little off oblique.. fractured on 5th from little toe to my ankle broken big gap Huge bruise from top of my foot and bottom .
It still hurt. Little better now reduce big swollen and referees and bruises but still on top of foot with little toe bruise . I had boot.
I am walking with roll brake walker now since about June . No surgery. Will see dr to see if none heal. From gap apart.
I also have alignments too. All around my ankle. Hurt my left calf. And more
This video of two doctors: I don’t think it s funny for doctor to giggle whatever about any foot injury. I have traumatized because it still hurt everyday since Dec 2018! Today is August 24th,2019. I am not happy with this. I fell down several times after 5th...
doctors- please don’t smile or giggle or stupid. Just respect , caring , serious , important to talk about injury foot.
Some people recovery fast depends on how my much fracture broken. Small or big or so! I was at the hospital for one week then Rehabilitation/ nursing hone for p.t but I lied down on bed for weeks then home visiting nurse p.t then outpatient p.t.
Thank you
Hi Eva-Marie. Sorry to hear that you are having a difficult time with your injury. The purpose of these videos is to try and educate as many people as we can about orthopedic injuries. We have tried to keep it light hearted but respectful. It was not meant to offend. Thanks for watching and good luck.
Lmao I broke my 5th metatarsal yesterday playing rugby
Hi Dylan. Glad you enjoyed the video. Hopefully you can get back to sports before the season ends.
i have a proximal shaft fracture of my 5th metatarsal is that a jones fracture, they said i also have a moderate heel spur which i think is making it hurt worse cus the pain is all the way up to my left leg and calf
So it depends on the location and angle of the fracture but it could be
@@TalkingWithDocs okay thank you I haven't been to orthopedics yet they should be calling sometime this week with my appointment .. is the pain in my calf and leg area typical with foot fractures?
Who's here because of neymar?
Hi Aumed. What does that mean?
Neymar de Silva, a soccer player for PSG, broke his fifth metatarsal this weekend.
OK got it. Hopefully he comes and checks out our channel!
Aumed Ramadhan me
Hey Docs! Thank you for this great content. I have a screw in my fifth metatarsil and I am wondering what recovery would look like if I wanted to have it removed. I've started working out barefoot more frequently and the stronger my foot feels and the more it gets aligned properly, the more the screw feels like it should not be there. Any opinion or insight as to the removal of the screw would be much appreciated. Thanks again.
Hi Kern. Very welcome for the video. So after removal recovery would typically be 4-6 weeks. Usually much faster than the initial fracture. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
My mom had same fracture. They fixed it with plaster/cast. After 4 weeks they were checking if it was healing, otherwise they would have gone for the surgery.
It was completely healed in those 4 weeks. Well, also with the side advice of Ayurvedic Dr. (Ancient Indian medicines) I also gave her natural calcium for 4 weeks.
Like raw turmeric (looks like ginger) in warm milk in night, raw paneer and a pinch of limestone in powered form (choona) in curd in morning.
For its absorption she used to sit in sunlight for an hour daily.
Thanks for sharing Sahil. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
June 29 I fractured 5th metatarsal displaced 3mm, zone 3, nonunion at this date and time.
From initial break non weight bearing in tall boot for 8 weeks, weight bearing for 5 weeks.
Sept 28, X-ray showed it was still fractured no pain, no swelling, no discoloration and was told to try non weight bearing again for 4 weeks
October 30 x-ray same exact fracture images
Nov 8 surgeon recommended bone stimulator 2x a day and pt 3 times a week for strengthening and normalizing of gait.
Previous runner, cyclist, strength training prior to injury non smoker, I’m not in any pain and never had to take any medications , nor taking any medications of any kind.
My only complain is I’m still limping , discomfort at the crease of ankle on the top of foot. Will it heal at this rate? Do I need surgery? I did send more detailed info in email
Is my current issue of discomfort due to lack of strength and mobility in ankle or will i need surgery to normalize gait?
I had one of these misdiagnosed as a sprain after a severe inversion injury without X-ray and was advised to walk it off by hospital staff at a very third world hospital where the doctor clearly knew nothing about foot anatomy. If it was in a cast it would have healed in 6 weeks. 4 months later it hasn't healed and the foot is a different shape. I'm using a budget electric massager to try to stimulate bone healing and now keeping off it as much as possible but doing exercises and massaging it. When I compare this to a prior injury to the other foot, the healing was dramatically faster because it was immobilised, I had crutches and I experienced no real pain. The minor remaining scar tissue was broken down after the injury healed. The modern idea of walking off an inversion injury is both painful and ridiculous unless you want to be left with a mangled franken foot and a lot of pain. A month of immobilisation is better than long term immobilisation when it doesn't heal. The pain of a fracture is no different to a torn ligament. It doesn't hurt as much as everyone says it will. It's just very annoying and relentless pain. If you don't have an X-ray and MRI you don't know what is going on. There could also be severed nerves, tendons and ligaments. Walking these off can leave you with a permanent disability.
Hi Louise. It sounds like you have had a very difficult course. Hopefully things turn for the better. You are right that you need a proper assessment including imaging for any significant injury. Good luck.
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you. Just to update at 10 months since 5th metatarsal fracture - avulsion in Jones region, this story gets even more ridiculous but I think I am on the mend at a glacial pace. Went to another health professional in NZ who could not spot obvious fracture on X-ray and diagnosed CRPS which I certainly had symptoms of. A sports doctor finally diagnosed the fracture and organised a follow up X-ray. Fracture still visible but stuck with CRPS diagnosis. Back to wearing a rocker sole boot I got from salvation army for $10 which has dramatically reduced the CRPS but still have swelling at site of injury. Another friend had this injury for 12 years before rebreaking in the same spot and getting it treated properly the second time. There are few desk jobs in this town so I have been feeling a bit outcast in more ways than one. Just relieved to have less pain and dystonia.
Hi Louise. Wow, that is certainly a long course. Glad to hear that you finally have a diagnosis and that you are on the mend. Good luck and thanks for watching and checking back in!
I found this video very informative. I got 3 fractures in my 5th Metatarsal. This is my 3rd month. This week my doctor told me the fractured have healed so I'm going so start therapy next week. Honestly that was the worst pain I have experience. My doctor said I could start wearing my sneakers but I tried to walk but is very painful so I still trying but with the help of the crutches cause the pain is so strong that I can't do it without crutches for now so I just want to start my therapy asap.
Hi yeya163. At first walking in the shoe will be painful. Gradually increase your weight bearing and your activity and it will get better with time. And yes, physio. Good luck to you and thanks for watching.
Do you recommend swimming? Thanks.
Yes Penny. Its great. Thanks for watching subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Third toe fusion with a bump on bottom of foot under third toe what's the outcome can be expected from surgery which I have yet to go through but been putting it off
Like we said in our other response so hard to say. Best to chat with your surgeon. Best of luck.
I have a 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture when I rolled my ankle. Will I need surgery for this?
Hi mr62686. So the vast majority of 5th metatarsal fractures do not require surgery. Usually a cast or a boot for 6-12 weeks. Every case is different though so best to discuss with your treating surgeon. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Talking With Docs thanks for replying! I did visit my doctor but he didn’t really instruct me to be wearing anything. I did have an old boot from my ankle fracture so I’m using that. Am I able to walk with it?
Hello docs! I have been diagnosed with an avulsion fracture today and my question is will the swelling disappear and would you recommend a short or tall boot? And can I use the boot without crutches? Watching this video has made me understand the words the doctor was using. Thanks!
Hi Oralys. All very good questions. Every case is a little different but generally speaking a short boot is sufficient for foot fractures. Using crutches is okay but not necessary. We tell our patients that if you can weight bear, you can use crutches for balance but that they are not necessary. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the great video guys! I have a 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture. I’ve been walking in an air boot for 3 weeks and have no swelling or pain anymore. Next X-ray is in 3 weeks, I’m praying it’s healed so I can get back to work. How important will physio therapy be? Budget is a bit tight right now so trying to avoid it if I can but will if it’s crucial. Thanks fellas
Hi Cody. The muscles of balance get weak and tired so doing something is important. There may be something on youtube. We don't have one of this yet. Good luck. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
sir I have met with an accident and my little finger(middle phalanges) was broken and doctor treated me with a splint.
sir after healing ,the healed bone gains normal bone strength and is there any chance to break while punching after healing?
Hi ravi. It would likely have the same strength as it did before and same risk of fracture while punching. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I feel so much better after watching this video. I broke my foot a week ago, and we leave for vacation in just over a week from today. I've been resting it elevated since it was broken, and haven't put any weight on it at all in hopes that it will heal faster. I have been very worried that I'd have to spend my vacation in a wheelchair, but this video has given me reassurance & hope that I will be able to walk with my aircast/boot and do/see all the things that we were originally planning to do. (Nothing crazy of course, just museums & walking). I'm far less nervous for what my doctor will say when I return for a check-up before my trip.
Glad we could help Allison! Have a great trip.
My ankle popped a week ago and I feel up the stairs and did dance know I can’t walk and I see red dots forming do you think what it is if I need to go to the er
Hi Hi Hater. It is hard to say the cause of your problem. Best to get assessed to find out the diagnosis. Good luck. Thanks for watching and for subscribing if you did.
Thank you for all the great information. Now I have an idea what the process of healing this Jones fracture will be.
Glad we could help Rebecca. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Doctors. I'm close to surgury(Friday, the 12th), and frankly my foot FEELS and LOOKS FINE! No Swelling, NO pain on palpation whatsoever. I can even put it in my regular loafers. But (she's not that aggressive) she is of the opinoin that now, nearly 8 weeks later, both radiographs are almost identical. From March 15 to April 26th. The break occurred on the 1st of March. She's not aggressive, but believes I'm wasting precious recovery time.
she is adamant: "This is NOT going to make Union, Paul-" " I wish it were otherwise-"
Hi Paul. Your situation is somewhat unique in that you sound like you had an open wound in the area of the fracture site. If this happened at the time of the initial injury, many patients would go on to have surgery from the beginning to deal with the soft tissue and subsequently with the bone. Open fractures do have a higher incidence of infection and non union. It is not unreasonable that you are having second thoughts if you have no symptoms related to your foot however. The best recommendation is to discuss it with your surgeon before the day of surgery. Hopefully that helps
Hi guys this is a great video. Ive broken my 5th Metacarsal, the dancers fracture, 3 days ago. I have a boot at the moment and on wednesday i have an appointment with a specialist at the hospital. This has taught me a lot, i really dont want surgery. Its a zone 3 fracture right in the middle it looks quite bad. Do you think they will suggest surgery? Im an athlete but im happier to wait longer and take supplements rather than go through surgery
This video helped alot thanks Docs!
Fractured my 5th metatarsal (avulsion) running (shoe landed, ankle twisted, landed on it) and i feel like supplements help because i know my diet is good but isn't perfect and was actively running/lifting weights at least 4 days out of the week when this occured.
After two and half weeks, the pain was down to the point ive stopped taking and weaning myself off the ipubrofen and i was actually able to bear some weight, but not enough to test my foot bearing all my weight off the crutches, I'm definitely not pushing it since i'm not in physical therapy. I couldn't even sit in the shower or toilet bearing weight the first few days, but after two and a half weeks i was actually able to get my shoe on and stand on it with minimal weight bearing pain, i only did this for a few seconds because i didnt wanna push it and def felt the fracture site with minimal pain.
Not much pain, I was in the bed for two weeks (no work because i was supposed to be on vacation) with my foot wrapped elevated majority of this time and icing at least twice a day the first week. The first couple of days was pain and inflammation, but the 2nd week was weird because the inflammation was gone...but the fracture site and bone was very stiff and i felt ALOT of small pulses and tremors in both areas while my foot was elevated and resting. and now im in week 3 only wearing the air cast/moon boot traveling at work (still using the crutches) and though its slow, its healing. The boot actually brings me pain (due to thr weight of it and being a bit too small), but i threw a dr scholls foot cushion in it and definitely helped.
I'm sticking to these supplements everyday. Calcium, vitamin D, Fish Oil, Osteo Bi Flex Triple Strength, GNC mega mens energy and metabolism. Every morning, whey protein shake with yogurt and whole almonds, sometimes a apple as well. Kinda flying blind here since i wasn't given much info besides given the name of the fracture and told i wouldnt be able to walk for another 6-8 weeks and def not running for 3-4 months.
Hi james. So that is a lot of information. Balanced diet is the best approach. Typically our patients start weightbearing as soon as pain permits and get off crutches as soon as pain permits. Usually no running for 3-4 months sounds about right. Good luck and keep us posted. Thanks for watching.
@@TalkingWithDocs sorry to talk a hole in ya head doc, but most of that was for people similar going thru what i am to put them at ease. My er doctor definitely didnt give me much direction, but ur video did! Thanks again for the reply!!
Very welcome james. Good luck!
Update for the docs and those wondering about heal time. So at 6 weeks, i forced myself to start walking on two crutches for a week, it hurt the tendons and ligaments in my foot from soreness and minimal fracture pain, foot was swollen and inflammed. At 7 weeks i went to one crutch, and felt the same amount of pain like i was in 6 weeks because im putting more weight on it, minimal to no fracture site pain, foot was partly inflammed most of it returning to regular color. Im two days into 8 weeks and i began walking with no crutches without the medical shoe and wow. I put a dr Scholl's athletic insole in one of my slip on arkk shoes and there was very minimal pain. I walked about 2 or 3 miles and my foot and leg was very sore,.my ankle was very wobbly too. I slept for a very long time when i came home (14 hours) and when i woke up a few hours later i went out again, i was definitely stronger but still soreness at the bottom of my foot. Little to no pain at fracture site. I wore compression socks and have been using the exogen 4000 since week 4. I use a roller on the bottom my foot every morning And it helps tremendously.
I have a displacemnt off the tip of the bone , avulsion fifth metatarsal , and the DPM wants to operate to align the tip back to the bone or removing it, want to know if this is right or there is option to let it heal naturally if possible and long term affect If no surgery, and could i start walking on it with min weight with crutches. Let assume that tip will not union ba k to the bone but may some what healed but seperated from the bone, is thisnpossible and will i have issue later? Appreciate your hep . Steve
I broke the 5 metatarsal 3 different times in 4 years, and this is the 1st video I've seen about it. I've also always been in a boot. The first was was a stress and the rest I knew exactly what I did. (I was a gymnast)
Hopefully it was helpful.
just wanted to know how long does a dispalced 5th metatarsal fracture take the heal. and when should be able to work on that foot. and what supplements should i take to heal the fracture, im using a bone stimulator
I broke mine 5 weeks ago and have a half marathon in a month so that’s why I’m here
It’s going to be right. Best of luck!
Were you able to run the half marathon? I broke mine about 2 weeks ago and can't wait to get back to running! Am worried it won't be the same.
just broke 5th metatarsal trail running coming down mountain. Turned foot inwards, heard crack so I limped down the rest of the way. Am now in boot, 5th day swelling subsiding now. Question is should I ice and alternate heat foot every day to aid healing or some combination thereof? I have always applied heat to injuries over the years once swelling has gone. Great Video, u two are a good combination, and a great comment section, a community of people with broken foot experiences and lots of real word feedback. Many thx in advance.....
Hi keltmon1. Thanks for the positive feedback. So ice or heat is a common question. So heat brings in blood supply which can aid in healing and sometimes relief - but can also increase swelling and throbbing. Ice, on the other hand, reduces blood suppy, freezes the nerves somewhat and helps reduce pain and swelling. Usually our advice is if you are going to use both, use the heat first. Good luck on your recovery and thanks for watching. Keep us posted.
The exact same thing happened to me yesterday. Coming down on an 11,000 foot mountain. The trail had loose gravel and yeah i fell and fractured it. I’ll be taking Vitamin D3 + K2 and Magnesium to hopefully expedite recovery time. So how’s your foot now?
Can you address the first few weeks in a boot cast and weight bearing vs non-weight bearing for those first weeks?
Yes typically Betty but always confirm with your surgeon. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hey Dr. Weening
Just wanted to let you know that after 8 months and an intramedullary screw fixation by your buddy Danny my super annoying Jones Fracture has finally HEALED!!! Whoot Whoot! I do think this video needs an update though now 😜
Keep up the great work on all these informative videos - you two are a fabulous pairing!!
That is awesome news Bianca! Thanks for the update. Dr Arora is going to join us some day
I’m sure he’ll make a great guest!
For some strange reason, I thoroughly enjoyed this! Yes, I broke my 5th metatarsal!
Glad you liked it De De. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
I had sprain four weeks ago.. my foot slammed on the foor in an inverted position. I had bruising and swelling especially on the side of the foot.. But my foot improved everyday and i could walk normally after two weeks.. But now i feel there is a slightly bony part below the fifth toe. I dont know if I should worry about it or wait a few more days/ weeks maybe it will fully heal.
Hi kginmyheart. It is hard to say exactly what your injury is. It may be related to some bruising or soft tissue injury and less likely related to a fracture. If the pain persists or gets worse, you should likely see a health care professional about it. Good luck.
Thank you for this:) way more info than I received from my ortho. I just went back in for my follow up (7 weeks) after complete non weight bearing (Jones fracture) and was told it was still broken. I was told I could weight bear as tolerated and just started doing that now. Is this typical that the fracture hasn’t healed. It’s non displaced. What is a realistic timeline? I am healthy and active and this has been brutal. Will walking with the boot if it’s still broken risk re-injury ? What could cause my bone to not be healing ? Thank you so much !
Hi Sonya. This is not uncommon and is related to the blood supply of this bone. Often it takes 12 weeks. Hope you are healed by now. All the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
I have a 4th metatarsal incomplete fracture. You can barely see it on the X-ray.I've spent 10 days, taken calcium and vitamin D supplements. Can I take a taxi and go to the beach? I really need to swim, as my back is starting to hurt...
Hi Andrei. Swimming would be difficult in an aircast boot. May have to wait 4-6 weeks. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you for your answer! I don't seem to need the boot anymore, and I'm willing to try a gentle swim close to the shore. My foot doesn't hurt anymore. I cannot find any particular painful spot in my right sole. I'll take it easy.
Hello docs! Thank you both for such an informative video! I am one week in to my 5th metatarsal oblique fracture which is 3 mm displaced through the mid to distal shaft. The first Ortho said no surgery, and I could walk on it in a boot, so I did that, but was concerned I was causing further injury. Second Ortho opinion was to get surgery and no weight bearing so I’ve been staying off of it mostly. Your video made me feel better about holding off on surgery but now I’m worried walking on it with a boot for 5 days harmed me. How common is it to damage the fracture further by boot walking? Should I continue to stay off of it, or is some walking with boot okay? Thank you both so much for such a great video. Really informative and fun!
Hi Molly we would say weight bearing as tolerated is ok. The boot helps protect you. Best of luck! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Wow! Thank you so much for such a fast response! You guys are the best! I’m off to Spain for 8 days with this break! 😅 At least it will be a beautiful place to heal! Thanks again gentlemen, keep being awesome!
Morning, doc I have a question it been now 1 a half year since my surgery rod inside my tibia why its get stiffness am a bus driver when am going for a long drive its get stiff a lot???
Hi Jay. Sometimes after injuries the affected limb will be stiff for prolonged periods of time and potentially even forever. Try to stay active. It is typically not dangerous unless associated with pain. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
@@TalkingWithDocs ,thanks doc
I had a 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture. My orthopedic surgeon kept my foot in a soft dressing for 4 weeks. I started to bear weight during the third week though he told me to do so after second week. After six weeks I started to lift weights to see how much weight my foot could bear. At 7 weeks I could stand on it with 56kg on my back. However, I have slight pain at 5-10 degree when heel lifts of floor. I've targeted it with isometrics. I hold my foot in that position until a bit of pain starts and hold it for 20-30 seconds. I can almost walk normally though a bit of pain persists. My ortho said sports after 12 weeks total.
I want to continue to lift weights. I don't know if that's off limits or not. It helped my pain during week 6 but now when I'm nearing full recovery I'm getting chicken and wonder if I should lay off the weights or continue.
Hi Zeeshan. Sounds like you are progressing well. The best way to know if you can increase what you are doing is a new xray that confirms union at the fracture site. Once you get the ok from your surgeon you will likely be able to lift the weights you are talking about. Hope that helps and good luck. Thanks for watching
Hi Zeeshan! Can you send me the xray of your foot if you dont mind? I’m also suffering from the avulsion now and it’s on its 2nd week. Im hoping i can walk without my crutches on.
for a non discplaced 4th metarsal fracture what would you guys think? Ive been wearing inflatable tall leg CAM boot. my doc says for 4-5 weeks. I feel like I could almost get away with Hoka or stiff shoes. But ive been wearing the CAM boot
We usually say the same. 4-6 weeks boot then firm shoe. Good luck! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thank you for your video, very informative. I got fractures in my 5th Metatarsal. This is my 2nd month, 8 weeks after surgery. It because of 3 doctor said that I need surgery. At 4 weeks old I can't do anything yet, I only move with one leg. In 6 weeks, the doctor said, things had improved but I still couldn't walk. so now I still use 2 sticks. I need advice, do I need therapy for recovery?
Thanks for the video , very informative . I’m in the first week of my broken foot and the swelling has gone down drastically, the pain has decreased but I’m feeling a lil shocking tingling feeling near the fracture. I have sensation in my foot and toes , can you explain?
Hi Karia. This sometimes happens related to the trauma and localized swelling. It will typically resolve with time. Good luck and keep us posted. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your response and kind words, this eased my mind because I was very worried! The buzzing feeling did go away and I’m on my 2nd week . I’m going to doctor on Monday for a follow up, will definitely keep you posted!
Sounds good Karia.
I visited the Dr yesterday and the bone is starting to mend . This is my 2nd week since the fracture and I have almost no pain, minimum swelling and the area on the side on my foot near the fracture is lightly bruised. An X-ray was taken and I could barely see the fracture, this is amazing!! I’m using an air boot and was prescribed Voltaren sr 75mg but I have no need to take them because the pain is minimum. I appreciate the information you guys provided, I will definitely be back to keep you updated . I forgot to ask my doctor if I can do some small exercises like moving my toes or rotating my ankle, I will call the office this morning. Thanks again!
I was crying all the day because I have tingling feeling and I am worried 😟 and because I wasn't in pain in the first week after I was hit by a car I don't know why in the second week I feel som pain and the tingling.
I fractured my 5th metatarsal on Sept. 16, 2017. Today is 05/17/2018. The fracture now is a noticeable complete break with large gap space. I have been using a bone growth stimulator as of today for 102 treatments(30 minutes every morning). Its painful as he'll, I have to pause when I'm out shopping etc. Meaning it hurts so bad for instance when I go to Wal-Mart or any other place that requires a lot of walking. I have to stop and rest, because of the pain. So, it started as a fracture on 09/16/2017 and last xray taken on May 09, 2018 shows a complete break and total separation in area of the initial fracture. The gap is about a half inch. I go back to see the Orthopaedic sports doctor July 9, 2018. I am a Disabled Veteran, but allowed to see outside doctors. I have all the xrays dating back to 09/16/2017-05/09/2018. They clearly show the initial fracture to the point of actual break and separation gap now. What should I do. Its very painful, my doctor and I viewed his latest xray together in his office, and I voiced to him my concerns and limitations of mobility. Its been 8 months. Should I call doctor and insist that we go ahead and schedule corrective surgery or???????????? genehall1952@gmail.com
Hi Gene. By definition your fracture has gone on to be what is considered a delayed union and possibly a non union. The longer the fracture goes without healing the higher the chance that it would not heal without doing something further - like surgery. Your symptoms should guide your treatment decisions with the guidance of your surgeon. Good luck.
I fracture my 5th metatarsal i been wearing a boot for 2 weeks but I feel like it hurts sometimes and when I remove boot I feel relief. Can I just wear comfy shoes and stay off my foot instead? I feel like foot doctor gave me a boot and send me off I never worn a boot before they should provide a f.a.q booklet or soemthing
Hi Honeycomblife. We allow our patients to spend some time out of the boot when sitting but you should wear it while you are walking. If you want to discontinue its use this should be discussed with your treating surgeon. Good luck! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
How many weeks does it take to heal 5th metatarsal zone 1????
My husband broke his 5th metatarsal 30 years ago and now in his 50’s, when he pedals hard on his trainer, the foot from time to time will swell and feel broken. The top notch PCP today took an x-ray and said no break or fracture. Please help. Is it a stress fracture or something else?
Hi Lynn. Hard to say if X-ray is normal. A CT scan could see more detail. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs looks like it is something else ty for your wonderful posts!!!
5th metatarsal oblique fx- 6weeks out.
How does walking on foot versus not walking on foot help heal fracture more quickly?
Also, when I push on an a certain area of foot, I still feel pain. Does this mean that area(where pain is) is still non-unioned?
Thanks!
I just broke my foot, and will see the podiatrist on Thursday. I’m curious as to what they will do.
Tips on how to heal from a sprained ankle after 12 weeks from a fifth metatarsal fracture & sprain? It still gets swollen and feels sprained and feel pain when bearing weight, still unable to walk without the help of crutches. Been using ultrasound stimulator, taking vitamin D, magnesium and calcium the first month of the injury
Ice and physio and time
Hi docs,
I have a transverse facture of the proximal end of the proximal phalanx of the 5th toe on my right foot with minor varus deformity. So it is completely snapped and turned outwards I was just wondering if there is a video or advice on what surgery I need? Thankyou.
Hi Leah. Often fractures of the toe do not require surgery. They sometimes can be reduced (or manipulated) back into place to make them more straight. Even if the bone heals slightly crooked this is often well tolerated with minimal functional impact. These are good questions to discuss with your treating doctor. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
What is a malunion and how is it generally treated?
So it means the bone has healed in a position other than it’s anatomical one. Sometimes it doesn’t matter. Sometimes you have to rebreak it and then realign it.
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you for the answer!
What are generally the symptoms of malunion and do you have a video on it?
Can I use the jaccuzi and swimming pool, just to soak? Please.
We would likely say carefully for short periods of time. Depends on the fracture though. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I broke my fifth metatarsal back in June 2023 and got surgery for it. I thought it was not a big deal after twisted it inside out playing soccer in my patio. A big ball appeared right after the incident and decided not to go to the doctor because I had tickets for Disneyland 😂. Anyways I went to Disneyland for two days taking ibuprofen and pain relievers. I came back went to ER and discovered my bone was broken. I wore the Skii boot for 2 months. I thought I was good to go back to work and my normal life. After 2 months I re fractured because my bone didn’t have union. End up having surgery because I didn’t take good care of the fracture.
what treatment would be needed if you break two of your metatarsal bones? thanks x
Hi Roxyyy. So usually it would require a cast or boot. Often for 6 weeks or so. And usually some weightbearing. Best to discuss with your surgeon though. Good luck! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks so much for the reply! Your guys are great! Keep doing what your doing and stay safe
I popped my ankle then it was healing 5 days later I fell up the stairs and did dance know I can’t t walk and it’s red and looks weard what do you think it is
Hi Christmas Vibes. It is likely an ankle sprain especially if you can walk on it. If the pain continues you should see your doctor and get an xray to rule out a fracture. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Thank you guys so much helped me out more than you can imagine
Well that is awesome Gavin and you are very welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
8 weeks
58 days after my 5th metatarsal fracture.
I still walk with a limp. I can ride a bike. I can go up and downstairs. It feels better. but it still is not healed. The doctor told me I can walk, there is no risk of "non-union" at this point. and I should go see the doctor after the 3 month mark for another xray.
when I try to walk normal I feel uncomfortable. it scares me so I walk slowly on purpose.
I started going to the gym today only doing machine exercises and avoiding squats, deadlift and any foot weight baring exercise as much as possible.
I wonder if my foot will be back to normal to play sports after one month. I really hope so. The Paul and Brad say in this video 3-6 with full range of motion months to go back to sports.
I really want to go hiking. but I am not sure I should. thank you so much for the video again.
HI Mario. Thanks for sharing. Hang in there. Often the last bit of healing can be slow. Wait for the last xray before high impact activity. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.