Yeah it is strange that my gut instinct when I saw trailers for both Fire Island and Bros was "oh no they're gonna be competing against each other" and not "look at all this GAY STUFF i can watch". Loved Fire Island and very excited for Bros. Very cool that these guys have a working history together and enthusiasm for each other's projects!
Well he insulted the audience blamed homophobia. I wouldn't consider him a pillar of the community. There's been plenty of gay cinema, it doesn't appeal to everyone. That's why a lot are low budget. I think he's an entitled jerk. I won't be seeing it because of his hissy fit. You're over 40 billy
Joel talking about queer friendships was soooo true. Too often LGTBQ+ characters are always alone within a group of cishet characters, which is fine. However, in my own experience and witnessing of the world, that's just not really true. My friend-group is almost entirely queer and those friendships and support systems are just incredibly important to showcase. I know most other friend-groups and networks I am frequently around are also largely queer. I've found them to be a key part of the queer experience (for myself) and I know many of my friends feel the same. There is something so precious about queer friendships that cannot be shown in media when an LGBTQ+ character is alone.
what rise is this video talking about? their movie just flopped. keep seething and blaming audiences for the complete dearth of talent and actual good writing among the woke entertainment crowd.
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Hollywood needs a new rise of creative minds, it would be a revolution like the movie brats of the 70s (Spielberg, Lucas, Scorsese, De Palma, Ford Coppola .etc.
Oh, Billy...I live for the day you find your Prince Charming. You so TOTALLY deserve him. Can't tell you the joy you've given me. Each time I see you, hear your mordant wit, delight in your sharp insights, I remember how glorious it is to be gay and alive. Love you, Billy. MJay you find your love ASAP.
Not that any straight people should have to relate to exact situations, but I think most straight/bi women can relate to the revenge porn fear in Fire Island. Anybody can relate to some aspect of dating and liking someone romantically no matter what gender or what sexuality the main characters have. It appeals to most humans. I'm happy for the LGBTQ community . . .I am hoping this extends to the disabilities community . . .(specifically high functioning independent adults in their 30s-40s with autism . . .because I'm bias and need something to relate to). 🤓
@@demshateus2420 here in Australia, most men aren't homophobic. It's only a subset of BOTH sexes that are homophobic ... and that's because they're Christian or just "f"ed in the head generally!
It’s very typical and telling that with all the gay Rom Coms that preceded this that have a mostly African American cast, they got nearly no recognition or exposure with media. We had to learn about them from social media or word of mouth. It’s so unfair. The only Gay themed film to really get any media attention, was “Moonlight “. Yes, it’s brilliant, but it’s a heavy film to watch. There have been some great LGBTQ films done by director Patrick Ian-Polk for example. I’m not motivated to go see a gay themed movie where black characters are not represented. People should give a watch to “The SkinNY “, “Noah’s Arc:Jumping The Broom”., “Elliot Loves” , “Punks”, “Finding Me” and many others.
Saw BROS multiple times in the theater and will buy when available on DVD. Great groundbreaking story and cast! Especially relevant NOW when human rights are on the line! Hope BROS cleans up at awards season! 🏆
Here is a gay role that has yet to be portrayed: a 50-something HIV Survivor who shows the effects of lipodystrophy from the first generation protease inhibitors. His memories of dead friends and lovers, of being part of ACT-UP and volunteering at AIDS hospices, a community that has moved on and a generation of youth who do not share such traumatic memories, and wonder why he is single, and more to the point, why his face and body look the strange way they do. He marched the marches, he organized the first Pride Parades and served on other Boards, he gave away his youth to the cause and endured HIV Stigma and ignorance, and by the time U=U became a thing, his youth had passed. He has withdrawn and lives alone with his records and CD's and DVD's and memories... Can Hollywood take this tragedy and turn it into something hopeful?
I am super happy for both Billy and Joel. Loved Joel's movie. It was so good. I can't wait to watch Bros. So proud of both of them and so happy for their futures. Love you guys!!!!
I really wanted to like Fire Island, but I didn't. And as a gay man I feel like I need to support it and love it so it makes me feel bad. I also have to admit I don't understand a lot of the "gay" jokes or even the gays calling each other "girl". I find it odd. Never call me girl. Besides that, I'm very excited to see Bros and I'm with Joel. I need a gay superhero! So far only The Old Guard was able to give me the gay action heroes I longed for with Joe and Nicky. I also think that Phastos in Eternals was great. He doesn't get enough praise.
HOW is Billy still single? He seems like such an intriguing man. Of course, we only see the public side, perhaps he doesn't trim down there or eats too much garlic. (Is that a thing?) 🤣
Or like a gay person that nobody likes as a person not just cause they're gay I just feel like why does everything have to have a happy ending maybe we need a tragic gay movie
Lol... You're obviously straight. ALL gay characters historically had tragic endings in movies 🎥 (re: a documentary called "The Silver Screen" or something like that) ... The message sent to us LGBTQ folks is that we NEVER could have a happy ending, we are almost always the villains or must receive an untimely gruesome death or something like that (i.e. unrequited love, arrests, etc)... It's only been recently (like the past 4-5 years) that we've had more positive representation in TV or film.
Tbf, the gay story with a happy ending is still a relatively new trope. But yes. This doesnt mean that we should have one over the other. We should be open to all creative queer voices, even when one voice doesnt represent everyone. Every story counts.
It was pretty much a requirement back in the day that if you had a gay character in a movie, it had to end tragically for the gay character, so there is plenty of those movies around.
Yeah it is strange that my gut instinct when I saw trailers for both Fire Island and Bros was "oh no they're gonna be competing against each other" and not "look at all this GAY STUFF i can watch". Loved Fire Island and very excited for Bros. Very cool that these guys have a working history together and enthusiasm for each other's projects!
I'm so proud of Billy! He's worked his butt off for years! So happy that he was able to create something that so many people will be able to enjoy!
That's cool do you know him personally? Is all the hard work mostly fun?
Well he insulted the audience blamed homophobia. I wouldn't consider him a pillar of the community. There's been plenty of gay cinema, it doesn't appeal to everyone. That's why a lot are low budget. I think he's an entitled jerk. I won't be seeing it because of his hissy fit. You're over 40 billy
Loved Fire Island, Joel is an amazing writer
Joel talking about queer friendships was soooo true. Too often LGTBQ+ characters are always alone within a group of cishet characters, which is fine. However, in my own experience and witnessing of the world, that's just not really true. My friend-group is almost entirely queer and those friendships and support systems are just incredibly important to showcase. I know most other friend-groups and networks I am frequently around are also largely queer. I've found them to be a key part of the queer experience (for myself) and I know many of my friends feel the same. There is something so precious about queer friendships that cannot be shown in media when an LGBTQ+ character is alone.
what rise is this video talking about? their movie just flopped. keep seething and blaming audiences for the complete dearth of talent and actual good writing among the woke entertainment crowd.
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Hollywood needs a new rise of creative minds, it would be a revolution like the movie brats of the 70s (Spielberg, Lucas, Scorsese, De Palma, Ford Coppola .etc.
Oh, Billy...I live for the day you find your Prince Charming. You so TOTALLY deserve him. Can't tell you the joy you've given me. Each time I see you, hear your mordant wit, delight in your sharp insights, I remember how glorious it is to be gay and alive. Love you, Billy. MJay you find your love ASAP.
Not that any straight people should have to relate to exact situations, but I think most straight/bi women can relate to the revenge porn fear in Fire Island. Anybody can relate to some aspect of dating and liking someone romantically no matter what gender or what sexuality the main characters have. It appeals to most humans. I'm happy for the LGBTQ community . . .I am hoping this extends to the disabilities community . . .(specifically high functioning independent adults in their 30s-40s with autism . . .because I'm bias and need something to relate to). 🤓
I'm more in need of gay action heroes then gay rom coms. It's more my thing and we don't get nearly enough of that.
Regarding "what straight men connect to" I must say I have noted that many 'straight' and married men LOVE 'connecting' with gay men!
Yea....we're not so homophobic as you all keep trying to make everyone out to be.
@@demshateus2420 here in Australia, most men aren't homophobic.
It's only a subset of BOTH sexes that are homophobic ... and that's because they're Christian or just "f"ed in the head generally!
I feel absolutely seen, and celebrated with these movies and series that have starting to pop up and are coming out.
Happy Pride Month! So happy to see this interview 👏🏽
This was such a lovely and insightful conversation. They both rock. Watch Fire Island and wait for Bros, y'all!
It’s very typical and telling that with all the gay Rom Coms that preceded this that have a mostly African American cast, they got nearly no recognition or exposure with media. We had to learn about them from social media or word of mouth. It’s so unfair. The only Gay themed film to really get any media attention, was “Moonlight “. Yes, it’s brilliant, but it’s a heavy film to watch. There have been some great LGBTQ films done by director Patrick Ian-Polk for example. I’m not motivated to go see a gay themed movie where black characters are not represented. People should give a watch to “The SkinNY “, “Noah’s Arc:Jumping The Broom”., “Elliot Loves” , “Punks”, “Finding Me” and many others.
Saw BROS multiple times in the theater and will buy when available on DVD. Great groundbreaking story and cast! Especially relevant NOW when human rights are on the line! Hope BROS cleans up at awards season! 🏆
Heartstoppers does have gay adults. 2 teachers are gay men. They're in the graphic novel. Maybe the other teacher will show up next season. hopefully.
Awesome video
Here is a gay role that has yet to be portrayed: a 50-something HIV Survivor who shows the effects of lipodystrophy from the first generation protease inhibitors. His memories of dead friends and lovers, of being part of ACT-UP and volunteering at AIDS hospices, a community that has moved on and a generation of youth who do not share such traumatic memories, and wonder why he is single, and more to the point, why his face and body look the strange way they do.
He marched the marches, he organized the first Pride Parades and served on other Boards, he gave away his youth to the cause and endured HIV Stigma and ignorance, and by the time U=U became a thing, his youth had passed. He has withdrawn and lives alone with his records and CD's and DVD's and memories...
Can Hollywood take this tragedy and turn it into something hopeful?
Check out Swan Song
I am super happy for both Billy and Joel. Loved Joel's movie. It was so good. I can't wait to watch Bros. So proud of both of them and so happy for their futures. Love you guys!!!!
Lovely Interview with just so intelligent beautiful and smart artists. Also…Joel in the lake… 🥵
Billy is adorable. Love him so much. 💜
Love these two!
Loved Joel in Fire Island, am so looking forward to BROS!❤
Why are they giving all the thirst trap moments to the guy who already has a boyfriend 🤣
This is awesome
Loved Fire Island.
Joel & Billy look good together.
Joel Kim Booster I love you & I love those pants. Where can I get those pants ??? xoxo
There have been two gay superheroes that I've seen in mainstream Marvel. Eternals and Loki
Movie was a fantastic abysmal failure because nobody cares. 😂😂😂😂😂
There’s no rise on this
Joel as Northstar, right? (Maybe dye the hair? Learn Canadian French? )
I've always been attracted to Billy but him in this interview.... damn. Just damn .
Yeah so the think billy said about heartstopper... Yeah... Same here...
Drink every time Joel says LIKE..... 👍😅
Why do I ship them?!!!?!!?
I really wanted to like Fire Island, but I didn't. And as a gay man I feel like I need to support it and love it so it makes me feel bad. I also have to admit I don't understand a lot of the "gay" jokes or even the gays calling each other "girl". I find it odd. Never call me girl.
Besides that, I'm very excited to see Bros and I'm with Joel. I need a gay superhero! So far only The Old Guard was able to give me the gay action heroes I longed for with Joe and Nicky. I also think that Phastos in Eternals was great. He doesn't get enough praise.
Rise? Straight romantic comedies have a limited marketability, let alone gay ones
Joel Kim is Korean or Chinese?
He was born in South Korea
Interesting
Love Billy
I guess this was before he insulted his audience and had a temper tantrum. You're not big enough billy to pull off Diva.
i luv joel... wish he appears in more movies gay/st8
Maybe next time you can tell the story of the gay person that is disabled and doesn't have any friends that would be cool
Watch the new Queer As Folk on Netflix...Pretty much covers that extensively.
Ryan O’Connell’s “Special” is the series your looking for.
Joel in Blonde 🥵
Dude I love the movie Fire Island. No homo lol 😆
Joseph Mensah
♥️
The future of the film industry is in good hands👏
HOW is Billy still single? He seems like such an intriguing man. Of course, we only see the public side, perhaps he doesn't trim down there or eats too much garlic. (Is that a thing?) 🤣
He has a chip on his shoulder. Listen to him.
Or like a gay person that nobody likes as a person not just cause they're gay
I just feel like why does everything have to have a happy ending maybe we need a tragic gay movie
Lol... You're obviously straight.
ALL gay characters historically had tragic endings in movies 🎥 (re: a documentary called "The Silver Screen" or something like that) ...
The message sent to us LGBTQ folks is that we NEVER could have a happy ending, we are almost always the villains or must receive an untimely gruesome death or something like that (i.e. unrequited love, arrests, etc)... It's only been recently (like the past 4-5 years) that we've had more positive representation in TV or film.
Tbf, the gay story with a happy ending is still a relatively new trope. But yes. This doesnt mean that we should have one over the other. We should be open to all creative queer voices, even when one voice doesnt represent everyone. Every story counts.
It was pretty much a requirement back in the day that if you had a gay character in a movie, it had to end tragically for the gay character, so there is plenty of those movies around.
Monkey pox super spreader movie.
No. Just no
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