Her sister ships all disappeared to unknown causes. Strange... Thank you, NH, for remembering an under-recognized ship. I've never seen the final moment pics of the USS Langley before.
Hi. Yes, it does seem a curious tale regarding her sisters. Before researching this video, I was aware of USS Langley but only once I dug deeper do you uncover much more, particularly about her demise and the fate of the men on board. Surviving her sinking but then being back in danger on Pecos and Edsall.
My grandfather was one of the casualties stationed on the U.S.S Pecos when survivors from the Langley were rescued and most likely one of the hundred crew members left behind.
Sorry to be that guy, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga were originally designed to be battlecruisers not battleships, other than that, another great video buddy 👍
Very interesting and as always excellently researched. I liked the front page of the Augusta Chronicle at 4:31 ; the news that America was at war with Germany competing for space with the report of a fire at Jones Furniture factory.
Hi John. I love hearing from people who have a direct connection to the subjects in my story. We can all be thankful for your Grandfather and men who served with him for the service they gave. Thank you.
Terrific video, i really enjoyed it. I always enjoyed talking with my father about the early years of naval aviation as he served on USS Ranger CV-4 then USS Lexington CV-2. His service on the Lex ended with the Battle of the Coral Sea in 1942.
Its a shame (but not surprising) that it was named the Langley... It wasn't until 1928 that the Smithsonian finally admitted that Langleys "Aerodrome" was not actually capable of flight and that the Wright brothers had indeed built the first "man carrying aeroplane capable of sustained flight". In other words..invented the aeroplane. (The Aerodrome only flew after being substantially modified by Glen Curtis...who had his own reasons for wanting to dismiss the Wrights achievements... he had lost a patent infringement case brought BY the Wrights... )
As far as I know, half of the flight deck was cut off when it became av-3 Langley. I understand that up to 55 aircraft can be loaded during the cv-1 Langley era, but wouldn't the payload have decreased by cutting off half of the flight deck?
The Northern Historian extremely interesting video! Thanks for posting. If you haven't already done so, please consider constructing a video on SS Great Eastern. She had much in common with USS Langley... an under-valued, under-appreciated ship which was a pioneer who opened many doors. Cheers.
Thanks for covering the USS Langley. More should be said about this pioneering ship other than she was the first carrier and she was sunk at the beginning of World War II. Something you didn't mention so I don't know if you are aware of it but her nickname in the Navy was the old covered wagon! Thanks again.
A great video, thanks! The footage of those early landings, wow! They were very clearly a "squeaky bum" moment for all involved. I'd love to see a video about the langleys contemporaries, HMS Argus, Hms Furious and the IJN Hosho. Be interesting to see how they compare.
Thanks Mitch. Those ships you mention are very worthy of attention and I may well cover them, but I do already have videos of HMS Glorious and HMS Courageous which are also very typical of the area.
Wow, thanks Bill. I truly appreciate the shout out, very generous words. I will definitely look to see how I can return the favour. Thank you so much again.
First off recent subscriber here. I love the depth of detail you go into. Especially talking a lot about the individuals involved. A lot of channels only talk about the ships. I love that you show the actual people involved. Also you asked for suggestions on American vessels. I got to say the USS Indianapolis CA-35. That ship has an unbelievable story. Multiple battle stars, Atomic bombs and shark attacks. Plus one of the largest US navy disasters in our history. Crazy story. I look forward to you making a video on that sometime in the future.
Thank you very much, greatly appreciated. I do try to make every effort to include the actual people involved, in many cases they paid the ultimate sacrifice and deserve their place in history and to be remembered, lest we forget. I'm a former serviceman with the RAF and firmly believe that it's the people involved as much as the hardware that make the story. USS Indianapolis is indeed an unbelievable story with so many facets, I'd love to make a video on her.
I was stationed at Joint Air Base Andrews just outside Washing DC. On the Navy/Marine side of the base, on the Quarter deck is the bell of the Langley. I have rung that bell. EPPOCH.
Very interesting. And very well presented too. How do you check pronunciation of places? You say them very confidently. You also say “sum-marine” like I do!:)
Thanks. After being roasted in some of my early videos over pronunciations I make every effort to get them right and succeed most of the time. I use a combination of Google translate and also look for local news stories on RUclips, see how the locals say it. As for 'summarine ', isn't that how everybody says it haha!
@@TheNorthernHistorian Aye, that was it. I went and checked. Anyway, gear vid. It’s always fascinating looking at Carrier development - no one really knew how they were going to actually fight carriers until they had actually done it. Most of the inter war period was just guess work and educated predictions.
Bro ... I'm from Cilacap city (Tjilatjap) I feel wonder my born place have a historical moment, which the first US Aircraft Carrier sunk here ... I have plan to make this story to the comic or animation with theme heritage of Cilacap , but I only have just a few refernce about the story ..
@Gordon Bergslien your correct my grandmother John Milton Falcon was a Gunner and that's how he survived after the 4th kamikaze pilot hit the artillery chamber and the whole ship blew up in the corral sea. What was completely ironic was I grew up on Pensacola Florida living on the Bayside which was the name of or neighborhood on the Gulf Breeze side which the Lexington 2 sat in the Bay in the 80's which it was a museum from Monday to Friday and active on the weekends which A-4's would land and the T-45 as well as coastguard training with there helicopters and practicing getting pilot on eject practice which as a kid growing up on Pensacola Beach Florida was amazing and the #1 Kick Start My Heart Blue Angeles video pilot lived in my neighborhood 88-92 Team and I believe in 1990 it was switched port to port in Corpris Cristy Texas. ❤️ 💣🏊♂️
In any case first carrier was not built by Britishers or US as made out in this video... First aircraft carrier was built by Japanese which is true fact ...
Her sister ships all disappeared to unknown causes. Strange...
Thank you, NH, for remembering an under-recognized ship. I've never seen the final moment pics of the USS Langley before.
Hi. Yes, it does seem a curious tale regarding her sisters. Before researching this video, I was aware of USS Langley but only once I dug deeper do you uncover much more, particularly about her demise and the fate of the men on board. Surviving her sinking but then being back in danger on Pecos and Edsall.
I just know cyclops disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle
My grandfather was one of the casualties stationed on the U.S.S Pecos when survivors from the Langley were rescued and most likely one of the hundred crew members left behind.
Note: The USS Cyclops was the collier lost in the "Bermuda Triangle". Expat Geordie here in Canada. Love the content and the accent ;) ! Cheers. S
Yes, I did read a little about Cyclops. Good to hear from a geordie expat, thanks.
Sorry to be that guy, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga were originally designed to be battlecruisers not battleships, other than that, another great video buddy 👍
There's always 'that guy' haha. Correction humbly accepted. Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers Dan.
I am about to start a 1:700 scale LANGLEY model replica, basically on the centennial of it's being.
I love history & modelling it !!
🚬😎
USS Whipple launched 1919. USS Edsall launched 1920.
Fascinating insight into another ships history, I'll look forward to more! 👍
Thanks, more are on the way!
Thanks!
Thank you very much Sean, Greatly appreciated!
Very interesting and as always excellently researched. I liked the front page of the Augusta Chronicle at 4:31 ; the news that America was at war with Germany competing for space with the report of a fire at Jones Furniture factory.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It's about time I watched a video about the old Langley, and especially one as good as this, I enjoyed this heavily, I'd love to see what follows
Thank you so much Joanie, very kind.
Thanks for this video.. My Grandfather was in one of the first squadrons that flew off the Langley back in the early 20's
Hi John. I love hearing from people who have a direct connection to the subjects in my story. We can all be thankful for your Grandfather and men who served with him for the service they gave. Thank you.
Terrific video, i really enjoyed it. I always enjoyed talking with my father about the early years of naval aviation as he served on USS Ranger CV-4 then USS Lexington CV-2. His service on the Lex ended with the Battle of the Coral Sea in 1942.
Really glad you enjoyed it!
There is a new book out on CV-1 USS LANGLEY. It can be found at US Naval Institute Press.
I have yet to read it.
Its a shame (but not surprising) that it was named the Langley... It wasn't until 1928 that the Smithsonian finally admitted that Langleys "Aerodrome" was not actually capable of flight and that the Wright brothers had indeed built the first "man carrying aeroplane capable of sustained flight". In other words..invented the aeroplane. (The Aerodrome only flew after being substantially modified by Glen Curtis...who had his own reasons for wanting to dismiss the Wrights achievements... he had lost a patent infringement case brought BY the Wrights... )
The Langley had the nickname"The Covered Wagon".
As far as I know, half of the flight deck was cut off when it became av-3 Langley. I understand that up to 55 aircraft can be loaded during the cv-1 Langley era, but wouldn't the payload have decreased by cutting off half of the flight deck?
The Northern Historian extremely interesting video! Thanks for posting. If you haven't already done so, please consider constructing a video on SS Great Eastern. She had much in common
with USS Langley... an under-valued, under-appreciated ship which was a pioneer who opened many doors.
Cheers.
Thanks for covering the USS Langley. More should be said about this pioneering ship other than she was the first carrier and she was sunk at the beginning of World War II. Something you didn't mention so I don't know if you are aware of it but her nickname in the Navy was the old covered wagon! Thanks again.
A great video, thanks! The footage of those early landings, wow! They were very clearly a "squeaky bum" moment for all involved.
I'd love to see a video about the langleys contemporaries, HMS Argus, Hms Furious and the IJN Hosho. Be interesting to see how they compare.
Thanks Mitch. Those ships you mention are very worthy of attention and I may well cover them, but I do already have videos of HMS Glorious and HMS Courageous which are also very typical of the area.
@@TheNorthernHistorian I watched both of those vids and enjoyed them immensely.
Thank you so much
This is why I had to shout-out your channel. Bravo!
Wow, thanks Bill. I truly appreciate the shout out, very generous words. I will definitely look to see how I can return the favour. Thank you so much again.
@@TheNorthernHistorian No need to return the favor- just keep doing what you do and it's return enough.
Another great video with lots of those small details that make history so enjoyable.
Thank you, Iain
You should try to be more accurate as the Lexington class were going to be fast battlescruisers as battleships were too slow to make good carriers.
Oops, my goof. Slip of the tongue as I've just checked back on the script and it says Battlecruiser. Thanks for the correction.
Excellent, well-researched and very interesting presentation. Thanks for this.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks very much.
First off recent subscriber here. I love the depth of detail you go into. Especially talking a lot about the individuals involved. A lot of channels only talk about the ships. I love that you show the actual people involved. Also you asked for suggestions on American vessels. I got to say the USS Indianapolis CA-35. That ship has an unbelievable story. Multiple battle stars, Atomic bombs and shark attacks. Plus one of the largest US navy disasters in our history. Crazy story. I look forward to you making a video on that sometime in the future.
Thank you very much, greatly appreciated. I do try to make every effort to include the actual people involved, in many cases they paid the ultimate sacrifice and deserve their place in history and to be remembered, lest we forget. I'm a former serviceman with the RAF and firmly believe that it's the people involved as much as the hardware that make the story. USS Indianapolis is indeed an unbelievable story with so many facets, I'd love to make a video on her.
fantastic content thank you.
Thank you so much, Brian!
I was stationed at Joint Air Base Andrews just outside Washing DC. On the Navy/Marine side of the base, on the Quarter deck is the bell of the Langley. I have rung that bell. EPPOCH.
Amazing video high quality !! Do more vídeos plz 😋
Very interesting. And very well presented too. How do you check pronunciation of places? You say them very confidently. You also say “sum-marine” like I do!:)
Thanks. After being roasted in some of my early videos over pronunciations I make every effort to get them right and succeed most of the time. I use a combination of Google translate and also look for local news stories on RUclips, see how the locals say it. As for 'summarine ', isn't that how everybody says it haha!
@@TheNorthernHistorian Didn’t something spooky happen to one of the other colliers in the class that Langley came from? Cyclops I think it was?
Yes, she was lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle I believe
@@TheNorthernHistorian Aye, that was it. I went and checked.
Anyway, gear vid. It’s always fascinating looking at Carrier development - no one really knew how they were going to actually fight carriers until they had actually done it. Most of the inter war period was just guess work and educated predictions.
Bro ... I'm from Cilacap city (Tjilatjap) I feel wonder my born place have a historical moment, which the first US Aircraft Carrier sunk here ... I have plan to make this story to the comic or animation with theme heritage of Cilacap , but I only have just a few refernce about the story ..
My grandfather survived the sinking of the Lexington 1 in the battle of midway.
The first Lexington was lost at the Battle of the Coral Sea in May of 1942.
@Gordon Bergslien your correct my grandmother John Milton Falcon was a Gunner and that's how he survived after the 4th kamikaze pilot hit the artillery chamber and the whole ship blew up in the corral sea. What was completely ironic was I grew up on Pensacola Florida living on the Bayside which was the name of or neighborhood on the Gulf Breeze side which the Lexington 2 sat in the Bay in the 80's which it was a museum from Monday to Friday and active on the weekends which A-4's would land and the T-45 as well as coastguard training with there helicopters and practicing getting pilot on eject practice which as a kid growing up on Pensacola Beach Florida was amazing and the #1 Kick Start My Heart Blue Angeles video pilot lived in my neighborhood 88-92 Team and I believe in 1990 it was switched port to port in Corpris Cristy Texas. ❤️ 💣🏊♂️
@Gordon Bergslien it was called the Battle of midway just like the movie they were in port 2 days before April 7'th when Pearl of Harbor happened!
Thanks
Thanks very much Bill. Greatly appreciated! Have a great weekend.
In any case first carrier was not built by Britishers or US as made out in this video... First aircraft carrier was built by Japanese which is true fact ...
Good stuff!
Thank you
My Grandfather served as a machinist first class on her when she was first converted to a carrier.
The best thing to call her was a test bed for the aircraft carrier! A place to test out new concepts to see what works!
Blood treasure and economic might
Lexington and Saratoga were originally battlecruisers and not battleships!
The US Navies only Battle Cruisers they ever designed? CC-1 thru CC-6
Yep she was lost off Java. What a bloody loss.
Boooo
Fascinating video 👍
Thanks very much.
@@TheNorthernHistorian You are welcome