There's no way. That meeting would be full of confused people, lol. I bet Nolan had some poor Previz guy making an Uber version of what I posted somewhere. I would love to see it. The amount of director notes must have been maddening, lol.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill If you watch the bonus disc containing behind-the-scenes they actually show a previz guy showing TP vs TP fight from the top view so you can see how many times is each character there and what are they doing at any given time. They said they did this with all inverted scenes so the shooting crew could make a little bit of sense of what they're supposed to be filming, haha. It actually didn't look too dissimilar (visually, it was a different scene) to what you've done here. So good job.
I'm guessing he just told specific people, "Do [this] and don't worry about the rest for now," each step of the way. Similar to how Michael Caine's small part in the movie was handled.
What I love about Nolan is that he's always trying to outdo himself- now I once understood this movie, now I've completely forgotten. But you have to appreciate the originality and unique approach he does for his films.
I love how Sator exploits the fact that Protagonist doesn't understand how reversing works to trick him. And I love how Nolan exploits the fact that the audience doesn't understand how reversing works to write the scene!
I just watch the movie yesterday so I know this is late, but at the beginning of this after Neil and TP get the case, sator is inverted but when your inverted, driving your car is going forward but when he comes after TP and Neil why are they driving in reverse Like they are facing one way but going the other but in instances when TP was inverted his car went forward
It’s because they are driving towards each other, one towards the free port and one away from the free port. And although they drive towards each other, which in normal reality they would miss each other in a drive by, they rode in different time lines, so they start at basically different time points, making the whole scene where they rode one next to each other facing a different direction possible. Draw a time line plot would clear you mind beautifully ;P
@yanxiaosun4363 Yep, this is the best way to visualise it. And for the start of the scene when we see the forward characters being 'chased' by Sator's reverse car, in fact from Sator's perspective Sator's car is just driving 'in front' of the protagonists car which is reversing up behind Sator! Wild!
Yes. Makes me wonder if the future sent Sator a detailed manual on different types of manoeuvres, lol. Seeing how experienced Sator and his men are with INVERSION. This definitely wasn't their first rodeo. Also, that makes me wish we got to see more complex big brain plays in different situations by those who are pros in inversion tech.
@@jjjjjjjjj3000 obviously it’s subjective, but from most of the comments I’ve read these 3D models are the only thing that’s helped people (including myself) truly understand these scenes.
@@moinuddinkassmi9671 True, good luck trying to tell the difference in some of the stalsk-12 shots, only difference between the forward and backward soldiers was the color of their arm band and either an air filter for forward soldiers or an oxygen tube for inverted soldiers. Although another cool detail is that the atmospheric ash in the stalsk-12 scene falls under the force of gravity in forward time but flies up for the reversed team.
The fact that Nolan made it so that when Sator speaks backwards it can understood if you reverse the audio file is mindblowing. It's just stuff that makes you appreciate his work. Great illustration too!
@@kyyy8821 I mean that Nolan actually did that for real, and didn't make him speak gibberish for the sake of the moment, you understand? He actually hid away a clue that is easily overlooked when watching the movie
my favorite detail is that sator “throws” the case back at TP after he realizes it’s not in there. back to the bullet being caught or dropped. they each think they threw the case
Cause and effect become all wonky when inversion is involved. Like how Neil went back in time to "unlock" a gate... that would not have been locked in the first place had he not first "locked it" in an inverted state He unlocked the gate because he locked the gate because he unlocked the gate (repeat ad nauseam)
@@TheSecondVersion Yh whole entropy concept is genius but breaks down when we bring in insinuate objects and characters interacting with them , like ur example
yep, since the first time I saw the movie I noticed that first throw and bounce was like "fixed". It seems to move directly to Sator's hands because it was an inverse throw. Gotta respect Nolan for this matter.
@@TheSecondVersion I think this issue is a big mistake in the script. It's like saying my cofee was already served and hot when I got home, because I was going to make it when I got there? I think Nolan dropped the ball in this.
@@SerpensSolida He does cover it. Like was a bullet hole in the glass when manufactured? No. The hole appears when the shooting event is near. "The winds of entropy" in the rest of the glass overwhelm the holes and return them to normal. (from an inverted perspective.)
Dont blame yourself. Thats your brain taking over to invert itself in order to revert back into a digestable info for you. Didnt complete the process. Like "two trains plowing into each other" is sorta like the blue team and red team meeting and clashing...and that should never happen. Go back to been blue now friend...
Like someone else said, I’m forgetting the stuff I once understood as time passes. It’s like dissecting the movie trained my brain to think in inverted fashion but that was being pushed back against by the world’s natural entropy. Now, I don’t know $#!+.
I remember that when I first watched this movie it was for the characters and the story. Then after watching a ton of videos explaining the plot I realized that Nolan did not ever intend for audiences to watch for the characters. I believe he fully expected audiences to be heavily invested in the plot, concept, and execution of this world's rules.
Yes! Thank you. I initially went to be confused...needless to say I definitely got my wish 😆 but I only went for that expecting a high quality well thought out movie and that’s what I got. It’s a high concept movie which means the characters aren’t the most important factors of this movie, it’s the plot and the events within. In this case Nolan did an excellent job imo.
exactly, the fact that the protagonist has no name tells you all you need to know about the characters, they are simply there to showcase the main aspect of the movie which is inversion
This is by far the most complex and confusing sequence in the whole movie. The final battle, the Oslo airport and Neil's sacrifice in the bunker were beautifully planed and (relatively) easy to grasp, but this... 8-o
Problem here is that it’s just artistic. It’s not to find some truth about yourself or about the world. It’s just an overly complicated scene based on some beliefs and rules about time that aren’t true. So it’s like seeing an abstract of painting but here it’s all about the logic of the scene. Btw it’s pretty clear the movie is intended to be watched in both sides several times. (Because of music that can be heard in both directions and the title itself being a palindrome) I would say it’s a good exercice for memory practicing. If you can grasp exactly what’s happening and can confront it both sides, you surely have a good understanding of concepts. Which can be interesting in real life.
@@mightycatniss The whole point is to be overly complicated; that's the appeal of the scene. It's good because it's ingenious and clever. Also, the fact that the premise is untrue is irrelevant. It's sci-fi. The entire sci-fi genre is untrue--it's in the name, science _fiction._
@@mightycatniss If you can’t find value in this movie within “thruth of one’s self” or a “truth about this world” then I don’t know how to help you; this whole movie is about deciphering truth within a complex web of lies(as standard procedure) and time travel that culminates into a central question about free will. The fact that it’s done in a series of puzzling scenes is standard for Nolan…who cares if the premise is “made up”?
@@TheDilll this is your interpretation, it's not truth. Be a little more modest. Scenes is what movies are made of, with a narrative arc. There is no truth about this world in this movie. It's fun to watch and decipher the scenes. It's truly genius but it's still an action movie. A unique one, well made etc... but there is nothing about myself in this movie.
This is the best explanation of this sequence !!! The key point is Sator saying "The Algorithm is at the Freeport" to his Henchmen who pick it from the SAAB at the Freeport. This makes it explicit on how Sator eventually got the Algorithm piece.
Yeah, this was the part I kept getting stuck on only because it's never shown on screen. Even hearing the line on first watch, I didn't quite understand.
not really tho, because Sator stays inverted and goes back to the time of the battle at stalsk-12, whereas the algorithm piece is only acquired after this car scene. So how does the algorithm piece actually end up at stalsk-12 in the past?
@@GamezGuru1 Sator is inverted when he sees the handoff but he is interacting with his henchman that are not inverted. Apparently, he is one of the few that is capable of such feat. He then tells him to pick up the algorithm on the freepot at the Saab moments after the Tenet team used the turnstile. One simple thing Sator could do was to send a message to his team to retrieve the 241, revert and meet him again at any said time and place he wishes. His team would arrive instantly in Sator's POV. That's one way he could have the whole algorithm.
How do you even begin to compute all of this, write it down and then translate it for a team of experts to visualise. Bear in mind this is just one sequence. Absolutely mind blowing.
I saw someone say that to understand how Nolan has done this you have to simply think like a mirror. That all your actions happen inversed on the other side then it becomes a lot clearer
@@doge8825 The mirror analogy works but what’s so confusing about this movie is that you have inverted people and non inverted people interacting with each other out of two separate dimensions. That shouldn’t be even be possible to comprehend
@@doge8825 just started yesterday to check timelines for movie and thought that would be interesting to put a mirror somewhere in the movie to give a hint for watchers
Best animation I’ve seen of this scene. Puts all the timelines and sequences of events from each character’s perspective into a clear perspective for me. I can now say in full confidence I finally have each and every little detail 100% wrapped around my head completely.
@@davidespejo7255 that part was kinda strange/didn’t make sense to me when I first saw it, but I guess they were just on standby somewhere nearby. Maybe he (Neil) didn’t want to call them unless he had no choice because up until that scene Neil didn’t want to let the Protagonist know that he knew exactly what was going on and knew much more than he led the Protagonist on to believe. That’s just my best guess though, it’s the only thing I could think of that makes sense. Cuz remember after Kat is shot and Sator escapes into the past and into the turnstile, The Protagonist confronts Neil and asks him how he knows so much and says “Who are these guys how do you know them?!” And when Neil says to hang tight and that he’s calling the cavalry in, The Protagonist is confused and says “What cavalry/backup???”
@@arsilvora8660 because it’s probably Sator talking to his men on the walkie talkies and since he is inverted it sound backwards to Neil, who isn’t inverted. Or vice versa. It could be Sator’s non-inverted men talking to inverted Sator, and as we see in the RED ROOM/BLUE ROOM scene, they have some kind of technology that translates what someone says to a backwards version of whatever they say, and then it records the words and plays the inverted speech back out loud on the speaker, or in this case, the radio/walkie talkie. There are also a couple theories out there on how Sator is accomplishing this in the movie, including the one I originally thought of myself and think to be the right one, which is that they are just using inverted walkie talkies/speakers which automatically invert the speech and immediately play the recording of the backwards translated words spoken into them. This is just speculation though and I could be wrong.
@@arsilvora8660 What do you mean when you say that the rear view mirror was inverted? What made you think this was the case? You mean just the mirror? Because I’m pretty sure the whole car itself was inverted (The black Audi and the grey Saab)
Something that these videos has helped me comprehend is that when you see someone inverted, it is a future version of themself. My mind kept wanting to think that if they were inverted it was a past version of themself. But in order for them to be inverted in the present they have to have went into a turnstile at some point in the future.
Sator's goal is only to get information on where the algorithm is. Basically which car. The hero lies. Sator checks the wrong one. Then sees the right one. Tells his Henchmen to get it when the car is back in the parking lot.
To pull this kind of reverted, inverted thing in a movie, and to success in that, is super impressive. Any technical part is top level. Filming, directing, editing, you name it. You just can't do this kind of thing without huge amount of talent in virtually any part of the movie production.
This is excellent. It's exactly how the movie should be visualised. I hadn't 100% figured out some of the off-screen events but you made everything clear.
OMG, I thought Primer movie was the toughest to grasp, this is next level ! Hope Nolan explains it one fine day in some interview clearly so that we can sleep peacefully !
The fact that someone did a 3D animation to break down how this scene works tells you that this movie while not being Nolan's best it will surely become a cult classic.
@@StermaPerma this film is going to live and die on the meta of fans making theories and videos like this. Something that not many people will enjoy doing and would feel that a film like this is asking way too much from us.
Hey,..those 'dots' were a great inspiration. But you had of be Very very familiar with the movie to follow it. Fortunately, I have 3D tools at hand so I used what I had and took advantage of it. Thanks a bunch!
This is amazing! Even though I understood the broad strokes of the movie both times I watched it, almost all the inversion scenes left me scratching my head. This is brilliant!
I like how Nolan introduces the temporal pincer movement from the least complicated to the most complicated in the progression of the movie. If you've managed to follow this part, you should be prepared to understand the airplane crash scene, which is somehow more complicated because of how inverted and non-inverted characters are in the same place at the same time.
Think of it from Inverted Sator's perspective. He acts and moves normal to himself so he just gets his goons to hand her over and he grabs this backwards acting Kat. Force on force still applies. He drags her but she feels pushed into the car. :)
When people try to pick apart the logic of inversion, does it really need to be pointed out that we're literally defying a law of physics (arrow of time) to tell a story. When you break one law of physics, ultimately you'll end up having to break all the other laws to accommodate it. I think Nolan does an incredible job making a movie which minimises these glaring issues and utilising cinema logic where possible (e.g. inverted bullets kill people). The magic of Tenet is more in how having control of time affects flows of information and physical assets, and social interactions.
The entire Tallinn sequence exquisitely demonstrates how freaking *good* Sator is at this insanity; he took the same "that bullet would never have moved if you hadn't put your hand there" stunt that TP barely wrapped his head around, and used it to stage the entire day in reverse - everything he did was to create the circumstances where he would *see* and *tell himself* exactly where the Algorithm piece would end up! In his eyes, the whole "temporal pincer movement" let him pull a "Bill and Ted setting stuff up" on *everyone* - his future self told him *exactly* what he had to do to win before the whole thing even *started!* No wonder he developed textbook megalomania; right up until the exact moment Kat shot him in Vietnam, he was 101% sure he was God.
" until the exact moment Kat shot him in Vietnam" Yeah,..thinking about it, he planned to die that day anyway as part of his plan. So he would have taken no action or have any 'intent' to try to warn himself. There is no 'future' Sator to come back and stop Kat.
Thank you for freeing me from the mind prison I’ve been in trying to figure out wtf happened in this scene. I was so sure it was totally illogical from Sator’s perspective, but no, it works!! I’m hugely impressed. It’s like one of those paragraph-long palindromes, but in the form of an action scene.
You put a lot of hard work into this, and thank you -- this conclusively convinces me (in spite of this remarkable and carefully made 3D rendering, color coded to spoon-feed us what is inverted and what is not) that watching TENET another ten times would have done nothing to make its convoluted nonsense make any sense.
I partly made this as a cathartic exercise for myself to try to understand it. No way I could have worked this out in real time just watching it. The movie is definitely niche,..which is risky for a Blockbuster type movie. People get turned off. But the niche viewers , like me, who go down youtube rabbit holes of Neil Degrasse Tyson and Michio Kako Quantum physic videos at 1 in the morning love geeking out over the challenge,..lol.
Welby...I must...i need to Thank you. For this. And for all of your explanation videos yet to come. I swear to God, this is exactly what I was looking for and was hoping for to understand Tenet. Your efforts in making these videos, need to be appreciated a lot... I'm personally sending these videos to all my friends to let them understand Tenet. Your efforts are valuable and I respect your hard work you'd put in, in making these Videos. Keep working like this man, we're here to support you everytime.✌🏻
@@indian_coaster_enthusiast I can see why some would find the time paradoxes are interesting but there is plot holes. How does Ives and Neil clean up the mess after the car chase and save TP from hypothermia? Its infered that Sator is dealing stolen inverted gold to the past but it would make more sense and be much easier for him if he just placed bets on the super bowl and stock market. Honestly the only perfect scenes is when Neil and TP first meet and the inverted fight scene, there is no paradox there. The inverted man is clearly sucked out the freeport by the turbine of the plane after he empties the gun and jumps through the turnstile time inversion. Later in the film we see a dead man lock themself behind a gate and given no explanation or clue as to why. You may call that a paradox but you can also call that a plothole too.
@@JBalmoreS I LOVE the time paradoxes, and I appreciate that TENET keeps them mysterious and does not spoon feed answers to the audience. As for the plot hole you mentioned, I can understand why you may think it is a plot hole - I had to watch TENET twice to find an explanation for this scene. From my understanding, the cleanup would take a few hours, which is shown from the change in the sky (from afternoon to night). As to how TP was saved, it is simple. The reverse explosion gave TP hypothermia. But while an explosion like that may injure someone or kill someone if experienced in forward time, the same cannot be said if the explosion was experienced inverted, as the inverted explosion would have a smaller effect on TP than a normal explosion (see welby coffeespill's video on the entropic wind of time). Again, TENET does not spoon feed the answers to the audience. There is always an explanation for every "plot hole" in the film - it is just not all that easy to find.
yo, man. amazing work. I remember wasting a week to pull of this together in my head. after watching movie 2 times. you just made it 100 times easier to digest. Appreaciate ;)
Written explanation in chronological order. Sator's POV: Let's start from the end of the sequence. Sator meets TP and demands to know where is the algorithm. TP answers he already told him, so Sator understands he must invert and does it, also prompted by the sudden arrival of the Tenet team. Now backwards, he finds Kat when a Tenet soldiers leaves her there (he has just rescued her in forward time). He interrogates TP, and is told that the algorithm is in the BMW. Thus, he abducts Kat and TP and brings them on the SAAB from the Freeport to the site of the gunfight, but the BMW is empty. Thus, he rides the SAAB again and pursues TP, who passes from the gunfight to saving Kat and from saving Kat to being on the car with Neil. Kat, instead, passes from being in the car with TP who is saving her to being alone, to being with Sator and the driver. Thus, Sator reaches the moment where he re-launches the case to TP and can thus see the algorithm flowing back from the center car inverted TP is on, which is the same SAAB he is in, but inverted. Thus, he understands that the car has started its journey with the algorithm on it, meaning that someone put it in(=took it in forward time) and must simply brief his men to retrieve it when the chase will be over in the future. Now from TP's POV, is just the same thing backwards: TP steals the algorithm, is in the auto with Neil, throws the case at Sator and the algorithm on the middle auto, saves Kate, arrives at the gunfight, is abducted by Sator's men and brought from the gunfight to the Freeport together with the woman and the inverted villain. He is interrogated and tells Sator the algorithm is in the BMW. Inverted Sator goes t check, while real life Sator arrives and asks where is the algorithm. Thus, we are back at the beginning of the sequence. By inverting, entering the SAAB and following Sator, TP experiences everything we have already said. As we know, in the SAAB there is the algorithm, left there by Sator's man who has taken it in forward time. The only difference is that we see the continuation of what happens after Sator has un-thrown the case to forward TP: he attacks and flips inverted TP's car.
@@williamfoxlordThe protagonist did when he throws it in the back of the car to the reverted protagonist. When the reversed protagonist got in the SAAB the algorithm is in the car but he still goes to save Kat. While going backwards the Algorithm goes back to the BMW when the normal protagonist throws it. The final result is in the past the protagonist steals the algorithm and throws in the SAAB and in the future the Bad Guy steals the algorithm from the SAAB when he figures it out.
@@carlitoswayp.r.1920 So Neil was right when he said that TP will give them exactly what they want if he try to save Kat ? TP knew that the algorithm is in the saab but he act like he doesn't and still put thing in motion that will result in Sator knowing it too. I can't wrap my head around that.
@@JeJe-mz9gg I believe he thinks he can "change it" he has it and thinks he won't lose it. But ultimately he gives it to himself and in the future bad guys retrieve it from the SAAB. What happened happens.
Imagine his brain is kept alive on a jar connected to a computer that generates scripts and images so he can come up with more movies after his death And then we will slowly expand his technological capacity and take over the world so that's probably not a good idea
I guess after the Batman Trilogy (box office revenue 2.46 Billion combined), Inception (837M), Interstellar (702M) and Dunkirk (527M) Nolan could just go into the execs office, laying his balls on the table and leave the room with a budget of 300M+ Dollars...
The idea behind this isn't new, but the application is most certainly unprecedented. The way it all flows, it's way too convoluted, yet a masterpiece at the same time.
@@johnnymittle The concept is called "Predestination". You can watch other Nolan films that have the same premise: Interstellar is the most notable one. There's also the film Predestination. In terms of animated medium, there's Attack on Titan. What makes Tenet unique is the how time flows at the same time and you can see those traveling back in real time. That's what makes it so twisty.
after two days after viewing tenet and seeing about 20-30 videos about tenet :D I have to say that the film is briliant with the time inverze. For me better experience than matrix now. So clever all.
One of the best movie i ever watched which i dont even understand fully. Love these weird mind bending movies. Sure it has its flaws but for whats its worth, its amazing.
This is going to be one of those movies where in the future once movie geeks like us go through every single scene and analyze it till infinity, the movie becomes a cult classic for the devoted who would die for it and the rest of normals can forget it thus achieving what Nolan wanted all along, just the ones who can do all this hard work to enjoy it and keep going back to watch it. He doesnt care if the reviews arent great or whether HBO Max or whatever are streaming it when its intended for the big screen, thats just fluff, at the end, its all about us watching these kinds of vids while Nolan basks in the glory of knowing he pulled it off. What can he even do next is what I want to know!!
This is an amazing work, I think it will help many people to understand this. The people who already got it can piece it better together with this model 👍🏾
Great video and I hope you're mad enough to do the Oslo Freeport scene next. I don't think the Saab is inverted. If it were inverted, TP wouldn't have any issue driving it as he is also inverted, but he clearly does. He is also shown turning left to turn right, which he wouldn't need to do if the car was inverted with him. When he first drives the car off, you can see that the "brake marks" in the dirt on the road are already there before the wheels start spinning. This shows that the car actually came to a stop there, not the other way around. If the car were inverted, this wouldn't happen in that way. Everything visually suggests that the car is normal whereas the driver is inverted. Unfortunately this means there's a logical discrepancy because the car behaves inverted after Sator crashes it. The only real explanation is that since an inverted force causes the crash that means the outcome is inverted as well. This doesn't align with other things in the movie though (like the puddle TP steps in), so safe to say the inverted car issue is a plothole. Sator's car being inverted doesn't make much sense either, btw. If that were the case, from its perspective it starts at the top of the highway and then just starts speeding off by itself (with TP and Kat in the car). Doesn't make sense because TP just tapped his fingers on the pedal to stop the car - he would have had to initiate some sort of cruise control to have it keep moving after he jumps back into the BMW. I've probably watched this film too much.
Addressing the Saab; When the Protagonist first shoots an “inverted bullet” they never mention a need for an inverted gun to catch it, just the inverted bullet itself. IMO the Saab doesn’t need to be inverted as well. Wheeler informs TP; (Gravity will feel normal, and friction and wind resistance are reversed)
I think the saab was in reverse actually as we never see any car actually invert in the movie and also anythings inverted such as sators car or inverted jp can influence forward moving objects.
Great visualization! The one thing I still find confusing about this sequence is that when we see it from inverted TP's perspective, there is a shot that really makes it seem like forward TP sees himself in the Saab before tossing the algorithm. Meaning he should know where it is. It's also a bit strange that he wouldn't recognize the car as he gets in it when inverted, although I guess there was a lot going on in the chase so maybe he wouldn't notice? Seems like a weird oversight from Nolan though, am I missing something?
He does indeed see himself in the Saab. That is why he tossed it to himself. After he is inverted, he does recognize the car. When he enters the vehicle, we see him take a quick look in the back seat but doesn't see the algorithm( in the script it is wedged under the seat). He is short on time and focused on saving Kat so he shrugs it off and proceeds to drive.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Ahh gotcha, I never thought to go look at the script too, that's a good idea. I also forgot a crucial detail that at this point, he doesn't know what the algorithm is and probably still thinks what he stole is "only" plutonium, and therefore not as important as saving Kat. Thanks for the reply :)
Thank you both so much! I've been debating this scene with my friends for the past few days and you both answered my question. TP DID see himself inverted and tossed him the piece. Once inverted and walking outside, he DOES recognize the Saab and checks around the car for it (I never noticed that before). From his prospective, the inverted Sator went through the turnstile BEFORE he did. Knowing as much as the audience at that point, he most likely assumed the inverted Sator already took the piece out of the Saab before inverted TP got into it to chase Sator. TP says that he's going out to rescue Kat. He never says he's going to look for the algorithm because that is a second thought. The only thing I still don't understand is when did TP roll down the window to the Saab? Every time you see the Saab, all of the windows are up until TP tosses in the algorithm. That might just be a nitpick
I think sator's right hand man (let's assume "X") knew everything before it happened. That's what I conclude watching your video. 1. At 0:16-0:19 how comes X know that he have to go to the reverse Suv with reverse Sator? 2. At 1:25 Black car consists Sator, Reverse and forward X, KAT and TP. Forward X taking TP and reverese X taking KAT, which mean in reverse time line The reverse X taking KAt out, which means at 0:52 the 4th balck car has been driven backward by reverse X in reverse timeline( Because in Suv there were reverse sator and forwarded X already). But why is he driving it backward? is this because The forward X already knew that the black car is gonna travel like this? So its like X already knew everything, his only work was to maintain this sequence. This is by far the most confusing scene.
Amazing and fascinating! Even for this clip I needed to watch multiple times to understand what was happening forward and backward. This movie is absolutely the best.
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Can you just imagine having to write this down on paper then have to verbally communicate to the experts how to pull it off?
There's no way. That meeting would be full of confused people, lol. I bet Nolan had some poor Previz guy making an Uber version of what I posted somewhere. I would love to see it. The amount of director notes must have been maddening, lol.
That part is little dramatic
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill If you watch the bonus disc containing behind-the-scenes they actually show a previz guy showing TP vs TP fight from the top view so you can see how many times is each character there and what are they doing at any given time. They said they did this with all inverted scenes so the shooting crew could make a little bit of sense of what they're supposed to be filming, haha.
It actually didn't look too dissimilar (visually, it was a different scene) to what you've done here. So good job.
It took 5 years to do everything, or is it 5 years to write? Lol
I'm guessing he just told specific people, "Do [this] and don't worry about the rest for now," each step of the way. Similar to how Michael Caine's small part in the movie was handled.
Never before in the History of Cinema RUclipsrs had to make 3D animations to explain a scene from a movie, We are living in an era.
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I was about to say the same. Thanks Christopher.
"..in a twilight world", you mean
First, RUclipsrs made 3D animations to explain a scene, then it never happened again, then RUclips never happened again
What I love about Nolan is that he's always trying to outdo himself- now I once understood this movie, now I've completely forgotten. But you have to appreciate the originality and unique approach he does for his films.
you can't understand something that is nonsensical.
@@arhamsaa what about it is nonsensical?
@@StermaPerma it’s a paradox. But an entertaining one
@@KevAlberta so inception and interstellar made total sense but tenet didn’t?
@@StermaPerma interstellar is also a paradox, and one of my favorite films
I love how Sator exploits the fact that Protagonist doesn't understand how reversing works to trick him.
And I love how Nolan exploits the fact that the audience doesn't understand how reversing works to write the scene!
I just watch the movie yesterday so I know this is late, but at the beginning of this after Neil and TP get the case, sator is inverted but when your inverted, driving your car is going forward but when he comes after TP and Neil why are they driving in reverse
Like they are facing one way but going the other but in instances when TP was inverted his car went forward
@@briantroyer5257 The driver of the car is not inverted.
It’s because they are driving towards each other, one towards the free port and one away from the free port. And although they drive towards each other, which in normal reality they would miss each other in a drive by, they rode in different time lines, so they start at basically different time points, making the whole scene where they rode one next to each other facing a different direction possible. Draw a time line plot would clear you mind beautifully ;P
@@yanxiaosun4363 Bro you just gave me an insane eureka moment with that explanation, totally makes sense
@yanxiaosun4363 Yep, this is the best way to visualise it. And for the start of the scene when we see the forward characters being 'chased' by Sator's reverse car, in fact from Sator's perspective Sator's car is just driving 'in front' of the protagonists car which is reversing up behind Sator! Wild!
If there was a textbook on how to do temporal pincer movements, this would be one of the featured examples. What an insanely complex maneuver.
Yes.
Makes me wonder if the future sent Sator a detailed manual on different types of manoeuvres, lol. Seeing how experienced Sator and his men are with INVERSION. This definitely wasn't their first rodeo.
Also, that makes me wish we got to see more complex big brain plays in different situations by those who are pros in inversion tech.
Even more complex than the final battle scene
Cant even imagine writing this and then trying to pitch it 🤦🏽♂️ Amazing movie
You can watch tenet pitch meeting on RUclips!
Well that’s the problem. You should be able to understand all this at first watch, without the need of any of these 3D explanation video on RUclips 😂
@@miekwavesoundlab it was super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Hats off to the one who created this video
They didn't pitch it. They catched the reactions of the promotion
The thing that makes it so confusing is having forward entropy and reverse entropy happening alongside one another. It truly is a mindfuck.
And this kind of brain-teasing puzzle is why I like these kinds of movies so much. 😍
@@amurizon It's not a puzzle since it's unsolvable. It's an interesting cinematic concept that doesn't hold to scrutiny because it's paradoxal.
@@amurizon It's not a puzzle since it's unsolvable. It's an interesting cinematic concept that doesn't hold to scrutiny because it's paradoxal.
@@bourdiergustave1506 it’s not paradoxical if Fate or a predetermined loop are apart of that universe. It’s not real life bruh
ikr, at freeport scene, theres 3 protagonists, 3 neils and 2 kats.
I like how this movie needs 3D models to be explainable while other movies can be explained easily in 2D charts and stuff. Thanks !
According to behind-the-scenes, 3D scenes were *_EXACTLY_* what was used to explain the plot & camera angles to the film crew.
hahahah true
this needs 4D to be explained properly
Other movies can be explained in words
@@jjjjjjjjj3000 obviously it’s subjective, but from most of the comments I’ve read these 3D models are the only thing that’s helped people (including myself) truly understand these scenes.
The oxygen masks are actually a visual device. They are to indicate to the viewer who is and isn't inverted.
not always tho. In the turnstile for example, kat wears a mas as a sign that she is the only one not inverted
@@moinuddinkassmi9671 True, good luck trying to tell the difference in some of the stalsk-12 shots, only difference between the forward and backward soldiers was the color of their arm band and either an air filter for forward soldiers or an oxygen tube for inverted soldiers. Although another cool detail is that the atmospheric ash in the stalsk-12 scene falls under the force of gravity in forward time but flies up for the reversed team.
@@hexagonproductions2019 bro I gave up on tenet a month ago
Would still be even better and cooler to show 2 versions of the same guy in the same scene like most films and tv shows do.
yeah no shit sherlock
*Nolan pitches movie*
Everyone else at meeting: "Cowboy shit"
tenet pitch meeting meme ruclips.net/video/t23ZEKqGHzs/видео.html
2:02 lol the best sound effect ever!
I couldn't help myself, heehe. Thats all I could think of.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill kudos
This must be from Zelda right? lol
@@abiyanakbar7595 yes sir!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill the metal gear one got me.
The fact that Nolan made it so that when Sator speaks backwards it can understood if you reverse the audio file is mindblowing. It's just stuff that makes you appreciate his work. Great illustration too!
Yeah but you can't appreciate it until you get the Blu Ray. I can't stream the movie backward.
Kenneth spoke it normally.
Nolan reversed the video in the movie.
To you, it looks like he's acting it out backwards, actually the video was reversed.
@@billycasper3351 nope kenneth wrote down his lines backwards and then spoke them in reverse and that too in a Russian accent .
Yeah it's cool, but how is it mind blowing? Is it mind blowing if I say "Hi I'm Bob" In a recording and just reverse it?
@@kyyy8821 I mean that Nolan actually did that for real, and didn't make him speak gibberish for the sake of the moment, you understand? He actually hid away a clue that is easily overlooked when watching the movie
my favorite detail is that sator “throws” the case back at TP after he realizes it’s not in there. back to the bullet being caught or dropped. they each think they threw the case
Cause and effect become all wonky when inversion is involved.
Like how Neil went back in time to "unlock" a gate... that would not have been locked in the first place had he not first "locked it" in an inverted state
He unlocked the gate because he locked the gate because he unlocked the gate (repeat ad nauseam)
@@TheSecondVersion Yh whole entropy concept is genius but breaks down when we bring in insinuate objects and characters interacting with them , like ur example
yep, since the first time I saw the movie I noticed that first throw and bounce was like "fixed". It seems to move directly to Sator's hands because it was an inverse throw. Gotta respect Nolan for this matter.
@@TheSecondVersion I think this issue is a big mistake in the script. It's like saying my cofee was already served and hot when I got home, because I was going to make it when I got there? I think Nolan dropped the ball in this.
@@SerpensSolida He does cover it. Like was a bullet hole in the glass when manufactured? No. The hole appears when the shooting event is near. "The winds of entropy" in the rest of the glass overwhelm the holes and return them to normal. (from an inverted perspective.)
Everytime I try to completely grasp inversion like this my brain crashes like two trains plowing into each other.
It's like looking left and right at the same time.
Thought you were gonna reference inception with the trains. 🤣
Dont blame yourself. Thats your brain taking over to invert itself in order to revert back into a digestable info for you. Didnt complete the process. Like "two trains plowing into each other" is sorta like the blue team and red team meeting and clashing...and that should never happen. Go back to been blue now friend...
Like someone else said, I’m forgetting the stuff I once understood as time passes.
It’s like dissecting the movie trained my brain to think in inverted fashion but that was being pushed back against by the world’s natural entropy.
Now, I don’t know $#!+.
And then UNplowing away from each other.
I remember that when I first watched this movie it was for the characters and the story. Then after watching a ton of videos explaining the plot I realized that Nolan did not ever intend for audiences to watch for the characters. I believe he fully expected audiences to be heavily invested in the plot, concept, and execution of this world's rules.
Yes! Thank you. I initially went to be confused...needless to say I definitely got my wish 😆 but I only went for that expecting a high quality well thought out movie and that’s what I got.
It’s a high concept movie which means the characters aren’t the most important factors of this movie, it’s the plot and the events within. In this case Nolan did an excellent job imo.
Your right, the protagonist's name is literally the protagonist LOL
exactly, the fact that the protagonist has no name tells you all you need to know about the characters, they are simply there to showcase the main aspect of the movie which is inversion
@@alexmaina6853 His name is also, literally, a lie. It was inverted.
Excellent work! Thanks for putting in "cowboy shit"
I wouldn't of posted this until I could find that sound clip! ;p.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill *not all heroes wear capes*
This is by far the most complex and confusing sequence in the whole movie. The final battle, the Oslo airport and Neil's sacrifice in the bunker were beautifully planed and (relatively) easy to grasp, but this... 8-o
Nicely done. Now I can visualise entire scene.
But imagine the level of IQ needed to create this scene. Absolute genius of Nolan.
Imagine narrating these scene to their crew LMAO would be damn confusing
Not really that genius... only in apparence..
Years later humanity will realise the brilliance of this movie, after they have successfully dissected and deciphered each little piece of the puzzle
Problem here is that it’s just artistic. It’s not to find some truth about yourself or about the world. It’s just an overly complicated scene based on some beliefs and rules about time that aren’t true. So it’s like seeing an abstract of painting but here it’s all about the logic of the scene. Btw it’s pretty clear the movie is intended to be watched in both sides several times. (Because of music that can be heard in both directions and the title itself being a palindrome)
I would say it’s a good exercice for memory practicing. If you can grasp exactly what’s happening and can confront it both sides, you surely have a good understanding of concepts. Which can be interesting in real life.
@@mightycatniss I dont think this is a problem at all! Some people enjoys this.
@@mightycatniss The whole point is to be overly complicated; that's the appeal of the scene. It's good because it's ingenious and clever.
Also, the fact that the premise is untrue is irrelevant. It's sci-fi. The entire sci-fi genre is untrue--it's in the name, science _fiction._
@@mightycatniss If you can’t find value in this movie within “thruth of one’s self” or a “truth about this world” then I don’t know how to help you; this whole movie is about deciphering truth within a complex web of lies(as standard procedure) and time travel that culminates into a central question about free will. The fact that it’s done in a series of puzzling scenes is standard for Nolan…who cares if the premise is “made up”?
@@TheDilll this is your interpretation, it's not truth. Be a little more modest. Scenes is what movies are made of, with a narrative arc. There is no truth about this world in this movie. It's fun to watch and decipher the scenes. It's truly genius but it's still an action movie. A unique one, well made etc... but there is nothing about myself in this movie.
This is the best explanation of this sequence !!!
The key point is Sator saying
"The Algorithm is at the Freeport" to his Henchmen who pick it from the SAAB at the Freeport. This makes it explicit on how Sator eventually got the Algorithm piece.
Yeah, this was the part I kept getting stuck on only because it's never shown on screen. Even hearing the line on first watch, I didn't quite understand.
not really tho, because Sator stays inverted and goes back to the time of the battle at stalsk-12, whereas the algorithm piece is only acquired after this car scene. So how does the algorithm piece actually end up at stalsk-12 in the past?
@@GamezGuru1 Sator is inverted when he sees the handoff but he is interacting with his henchman that are not inverted. Apparently, he is one of the few that is capable of such feat. He then tells him to pick up the algorithm on the freepot at the Saab moments after the Tenet team used the turnstile.
One simple thing Sator could do was to send a message to his team to retrieve the 241, revert and meet him again at any said time and place he wishes. His team would arrive instantly in Sator's POV. That's one way he could have the whole algorithm.
This is perfect for people who didn’t understand
So everyone?
@@christiandeuctor3606 lol
@@christiandeuctor3606 no, majority.
I still don't get it. Soооо confusing.
Literally no one understands
Damn this youtuber is Nolan himself. 😂😂😂
🙋🏽♀️
We all know it!
How do you even begin to compute all of this, write it down and then translate it for a team of experts to visualise. Bear in mind this is just one sequence. Absolutely mind blowing.
I saw someone say that to understand how Nolan has done this you have to simply think like a mirror. That all your actions happen inversed on the other side then it becomes a lot clearer
@@doge8825 The mirror analogy works but what’s so confusing about this movie is that you have inverted people and non inverted people interacting with each other out of two separate dimensions. That shouldn’t be even be possible to comprehend
"Don't try to understand it"
@@doge8825 just started yesterday to check timelines for movie and thought that would be interesting to put a mirror somewhere in the movie to give a hint for watchers
Best animation I’ve seen of this scene. Puts all the timelines and sequences of events from each character’s perspective into a clear perspective for me. I can now say in full confidence I finally have each and every little detail 100% wrapped around my head completely.
where did Ives and his team come from when Neil called for them over the radio when he needed back up ?
@@davidespejo7255 that part was kinda strange/didn’t make sense to me when I first saw it, but I guess they were just on standby somewhere nearby. Maybe he (Neil) didn’t want to call them unless he had no choice because up until that scene Neil didn’t want to let the Protagonist know that he knew exactly what was going on and knew much more than he led the Protagonist on to believe. That’s just my best guess though, it’s the only thing I could think of that makes sense. Cuz remember after Kat is shot and Sator escapes into the past and into the turnstile, The Protagonist confronts Neil and asks him how he knows so much and says “Who are these guys how do you know them?!” And when Neil says to hang tight and that he’s calling the cavalry in, The Protagonist is confused and says “What cavalry/backup???”
Why was the radio chatter backwards? And also, the rear view mirror was inverted i think
@@arsilvora8660 because it’s probably Sator talking to his men on the walkie talkies and since he is inverted it sound backwards to Neil, who isn’t inverted. Or vice versa. It could be Sator’s non-inverted men talking to inverted Sator, and as we see in the RED ROOM/BLUE ROOM scene, they have some kind of technology that translates what someone says to a backwards version of whatever they say, and then it records the words and plays the inverted speech back out loud on the speaker, or in this case, the radio/walkie talkie. There are also a couple theories out there on how Sator is accomplishing this in the movie, including the one I originally thought of myself and think to be the right one, which is that they are just using inverted walkie talkies/speakers which automatically invert the speech and immediately play the recording of the backwards translated words spoken into them. This is just speculation though and I could be wrong.
@@arsilvora8660 What do you mean when you say that the rear view mirror was inverted? What made you think this was the case? You mean just the mirror? Because I’m pretty sure the whole car itself was inverted (The black Audi and the grey Saab)
Something that these videos has helped me comprehend is that when you see someone inverted, it is a future version of themself. My mind kept wanting to think that if they were inverted it was a past version of themself. But in order for them to be inverted in the present they have to have went into a turnstile at some point in the future.
Still didn't get it, I am the dumbest movie watcher ever.
Sator's goal is only to get information on where the algorithm is. Basically which car. The hero lies. Sator checks the wrong one. Then sees the right one. Tells his Henchmen to get it when the car is back in the parking lot.
u r not the only one
@@johnnymittle yeah that’s the gist of it but when you’re trying to fully grasp entire details it becomes a mess
Don't try to understand it,feel it.
*That part is a little dramatic*
Terrific work. And yes, I'M STILL wrapping my head around everything. It's gonna take me days + lots of scrap paper.
I watched thrice but still didn't understand this sequence. But you're 3d theory did wonders, I understood it completely.
To pull this kind of reverted, inverted thing in a movie, and to success in that, is super impressive. Any technical part is top level. Filming, directing, editing, you name it. You just can't do this kind of thing without huge amount of talent in virtually any part of the movie production.
This is the most impressively laid-out and comprehensive dissection of the scene I’ve seen. Well done.
So basically we are watching this scene with 4D perspective, Presented in 3D, Rendered in 2D, and feeding our 1D mind....
great work. ....
@@theopendoorev It's an old joke. Don't try to understand it, feel it.
That 1 dislike is from Sator. And probably the next one is from inverted Sator.
Remember inverted sator would have to like the video so that the normal sator can dislike it.
@@TheBreezus inverted sator has to undo the dislike
@@ElMrBlack your right
@@ElMrBlack For our viewing he first undid his like before he liked it
LoL 🤣
Time spent watching the movie: 2h30
Time spent watching explanation videos: 10h and counting..
This is excellent. It's exactly how the movie should be visualised. I hadn't 100% figured out some of the off-screen events but you made everything clear.
OMG, I thought Primer movie was the toughest to grasp, this is next level ! Hope Nolan explains it one fine day in some interview clearly so that we can sleep peacefully !
Can you please do more like the whole movie lmao
We're going to hear 2:02 823 times
The graphics are great but I still need a voiceover explaining it
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The fact that someone did a 3D animation to break down how this scene works tells you that this movie while not being Nolan's best it will surely become a cult classic.
I think it was his best
According to you which is Nolan's best movie?
@@StermaPerma lol no mark it wasn't
@@danknight7301 It was his most ambitious project so far.
@@StermaPerma this film is going to live and die on the meta of fans making theories and videos like this. Something that not many people will enjoy doing and would feel that a film like this is asking way too much from us.
Thank you for not having dots without audio!
And I like the achievement noise when Sator’s men get the algorithm.
Hey,..those 'dots' were a great inspiration. But you had of be Very very familiar with the movie to follow it. Fortunately, I have 3D tools at hand so I used what I had and took advantage of it. Thanks a bunch!
This is amazing! Even though I understood the broad strokes of the movie both times I watched it, almost all the inversion scenes left me scratching my head. This is brilliant!
Oh God, thank you! My brain was melting over this. I came fairly close but seeing it visualized like this makes it so much more comprehensible.
I like how Nolan introduces the temporal pincer movement from the least complicated to the most complicated in the progression of the movie. If you've managed to follow this part, you should be prepared to understand the airplane crash scene, which is somehow more complicated because of how inverted and non-inverted characters are in the same place at the same time.
What's messing with me is how backwards moving Sator kidnaps a forwards moving Kat!
Think of it from Inverted Sator's perspective. He acts and moves normal to himself so he just gets his goons to hand her over and he grabs this backwards acting Kat. Force on force still applies. He drags her but she feels pushed into the car. :)
I don't think any other director could pull this off. Nolan truly is a gift for cinema!
I watched Tenet like 5 or 6 times and still only understand 2/4 of it..this video really helps! Thanks!
When people try to pick apart the logic of inversion, does it really need to be pointed out that we're literally defying a law of physics (arrow of time) to tell a story. When you break one law of physics, ultimately you'll end up having to break all the other laws to accommodate it. I think Nolan does an incredible job making a movie which minimises these glaring issues and utilising cinema logic where possible (e.g. inverted bullets kill people). The magic of Tenet is more in how having control of time affects flows of information and physical assets, and social interactions.
Finally understand how Sator retrieve the algorithme in the car, he use one of his men in real time ! Thanks for the explain !
Watched this movie as a teen 22 years back, but I still don't get the scene.
I see what you did there
You shud have said - watched this scene as an inverted man 22 years into the future feels weird to see it release in theatres in reverse.
@@adityasingh5159 NO!
It shouldn't be made obvious to everyone
LET THEM THINK!!! (it is what makes movies good)
...ereht did uoy tahw ees I
It makes a lot more sense 200 years from now.
This movie is so fascinating.
Thanks for taking the time to make this all make sense. I can’t imagine what level Nolan’s mind is on to piece this plot together
The entire Tallinn sequence exquisitely demonstrates how freaking *good* Sator is at this insanity; he took the same "that bullet would never have moved if you hadn't put your hand there" stunt that TP barely wrapped his head around, and used it to stage the entire day in reverse - everything he did was to create the circumstances where he would *see* and *tell himself* exactly where the Algorithm piece would end up! In his eyes, the whole "temporal pincer movement" let him pull a "Bill and Ted setting stuff up" on *everyone* - his future self told him *exactly* what he had to do to win before the whole thing even *started!*
No wonder he developed textbook megalomania; right up until the exact moment Kat shot him in Vietnam, he was 101% sure he was God.
" until the exact moment Kat shot him in Vietnam"
Yeah,..thinking about it, he planned to die that day anyway as part of his plan. So he would have taken no action or have any 'intent' to try to warn himself. There is no 'future' Sator to come back and stop Kat.
Thank you for freeing me from the mind prison I’ve been in trying to figure out wtf happened in this scene. I was so sure it was totally illogical from Sator’s perspective, but no, it works!! I’m hugely impressed. It’s like one of those paragraph-long palindromes, but in the form of an action scene.
These vids are invaluable! I'm gonna go out a limb and say that this is the beginning and end of the movie while staltz 12 is actually the middle.
Nolan's extraordinary ability of imagination is just beyond this reality.
You put a lot of hard work into this, and thank you -- this conclusively convinces me (in spite of this remarkable and carefully made 3D rendering, color coded to spoon-feed us what is inverted and what is not) that watching TENET another ten times would have done nothing to make its convoluted nonsense make any sense.
I partly made this as a cathartic exercise for myself to try to understand it. No way I could have worked this out in real time just watching it. The movie is definitely niche,..which is risky for a Blockbuster type movie. People get turned off. But the niche viewers , like me, who go down youtube rabbit holes of Neil Degrasse Tyson and Michio Kako Quantum physic videos at 1 in the morning love geeking out over the challenge,..lol.
I had being checking RUclips to find this. I found and inverted letter telling me you’d post 2 days ago. :P Thank you so much for doing this!
Welby...I must...i need to Thank you. For this. And for all of your explanation videos yet to come. I swear to God, this is exactly what I was looking for and was hoping for to understand Tenet. Your efforts in making these videos, need to be appreciated a lot...
I'm personally sending these videos to all my friends to let them understand Tenet. Your efforts are valuable and I respect your hard work you'd put in, in making these Videos.
Keep working like this man, we're here to support you everytime.✌🏻
This is the best thing ever. Love it!
This scene is masterpiece.
The whole movie is a masterpiece
It is near-perfect
@@indian_coaster_enthusiast It's not that great, too many plot holes and time paradoxes means it lives or dies on the meta of these types of videos.
@@JBalmoreS ACTUALLY... there are no plot holes... and the paradoxes make it more interesting
@@indian_coaster_enthusiast I can see why some would find the time paradoxes are interesting but there is plot holes. How does Ives and Neil clean up the mess after the car chase and save TP from hypothermia? Its infered that Sator is dealing stolen inverted gold to the past but it would make more sense and be much easier for him if he just placed bets on the super bowl and stock market. Honestly the only perfect scenes is when Neil and TP first meet and the inverted fight scene, there is no paradox there. The inverted man is clearly sucked out the freeport by the turbine of the plane after he empties the gun and jumps through the turnstile time inversion. Later in the film we see a dead man lock themself behind a gate and given no explanation or clue as to why. You may call that a paradox but you can also call that a plothole too.
@@JBalmoreS I LOVE the time paradoxes, and I appreciate that TENET keeps them mysterious and does not spoon feed answers to the audience.
As for the plot hole you mentioned, I can understand why you may think it is a plot hole - I had to watch TENET twice to find an explanation for this scene. From my understanding, the cleanup would take a few hours, which is shown from the change in the sky (from afternoon to night). As to how TP was saved, it is simple. The reverse explosion gave TP hypothermia. But while an explosion like that may injure someone or kill someone if experienced in forward time, the same cannot be said if the explosion was experienced inverted, as the inverted explosion would have a smaller effect on TP than a normal explosion (see welby coffeespill's video on the entropic wind of time).
Again, TENET does not spoon feed the answers to the audience. There is always an explanation for every "plot hole" in the film - it is just not all that easy to find.
An actual forensic reconstruction of multiple crime scenes (and over multiple time planes). Bravo
yo, man. amazing work. I remember wasting a week to pull of this together in my head. after watching movie 2 times.
you just made it 100 times easier to digest.
Appreaciate ;)
Written explanation in chronological order.
Sator's POV:
Let's start from the end of the sequence. Sator meets TP and demands to know where is the algorithm. TP answers he already told him, so Sator understands he must invert and does it, also prompted by the sudden arrival of the Tenet team. Now backwards, he finds Kat when a Tenet soldiers leaves her there (he has just rescued her in forward time). He interrogates TP, and is told that the algorithm is in the BMW. Thus, he abducts Kat and TP and brings them on the SAAB from the Freeport to the site of the gunfight, but the BMW is empty. Thus, he rides the SAAB again and pursues TP, who passes from the gunfight to saving Kat and from saving Kat to being on the car with Neil. Kat, instead, passes from being in the car with TP who is saving her to being alone, to being with Sator and the driver. Thus, Sator reaches the moment where he re-launches the case to TP and can thus see the algorithm flowing back from the center car inverted TP is on, which is the same SAAB he is in, but inverted. Thus, he understands that the car has started its journey with the algorithm on it, meaning that someone put it in(=took it in forward time) and must simply brief his men to retrieve it when the chase will be over in the future.
Now from TP's POV, is just the same thing backwards:
TP steals the algorithm, is in the auto with Neil, throws the case at Sator and the algorithm on the middle auto, saves Kate, arrives at the gunfight, is abducted by Sator's men and brought from the gunfight to the Freeport together with the woman and the inverted villain. He is interrogated and tells Sator the algorithm is in the BMW. Inverted Sator goes t check, while real life Sator arrives and asks where is the algorithm. Thus, we are back at the beginning of the sequence. By inverting, entering the SAAB and following Sator, TP experiences everything we have already said. As we know, in the SAAB there is the algorithm, left there by Sator's man who has taken it in forward time. The only difference is that we see the continuation of what happens after Sator has un-thrown the case to forward TP: he attacks and flips inverted TP's car.
ruclips.net/video/kcd4vU0ccyI/видео.html
Watch this by the way!
Who put the algorithm in the Saab?
@@williamfoxlordThe protagonist did when he throws it in the back of the car to the reverted protagonist. When the reversed protagonist got in the SAAB the algorithm is in the car but he still goes to save Kat. While going backwards the Algorithm goes back to the BMW when the normal protagonist throws it. The final result is in the past the protagonist steals the algorithm and throws in the SAAB and in the future the Bad Guy steals the algorithm from the SAAB when he figures it out.
@@carlitoswayp.r.1920 So Neil was right when he said that TP will give them exactly what they want if he try to save Kat ? TP knew that the algorithm is in the saab but he act like he doesn't and still put thing in motion that will result in Sator knowing it too. I can't wrap my head around that.
@@JeJe-mz9gg I believe he thinks he can "change it" he has it and thinks he won't lose it. But ultimately he gives it to himself and in the future bad guys retrieve it from the SAAB. What happened happens.
How can a person even think like this?nolan's mind should be preserved after his death
Imagine his brain is kept alive on a jar connected to a computer that generates scripts and images so he can come up with more movies after his death
And then we will slowly expand his technological capacity and take over the world so that's probably not a good idea
@@gurditrehal3348 #Transcendence
Well now he's done space, dreams and time, his next movie might be about death/life
@@MrSheizen That would be cool ngl.
Christopher Nolan’s pitch to execs: Imagine a timeline where you go forwards and backwards at the same time.
Execs: Take our money.
I guess after the Batman Trilogy (box office revenue 2.46 Billion combined), Inception (837M), Interstellar (702M) and Dunkirk (527M) Nolan could just go into the execs office, laying his balls on the table and leave the room with a budget of 300M+ Dollars...
@@Vienesko i concur
Watching this was the only way my mind could comprehend how the inverted cars movements work in this scene. Great stuff
The SUV is inverted I think. In the video it is depicted as blue. In the backwards timeline it just takes off by itself though.
Great work on all of these 3D models, love it (and TENET)- much appreciated
The idea behind this isn't new, but the application is most certainly unprecedented. The way it all flows, it's way too convoluted, yet a masterpiece at the same time.
Is there another movie or book on this subject?
@@johnnymittle The concept is called "Predestination". You can watch other Nolan films that have the same premise: Interstellar is the most notable one. There's also the film Predestination. In terms of animated medium, there's Attack on Titan.
What makes Tenet unique is the how time flows at the same time and you can see those traveling back in real time. That's what makes it so twisty.
"We live in a twilight world,
And there are no better explanation than this video"
Thumbs of for putting this together !!
I was waiting for this!!! Your explanation is perfect thx
Best explanation I’ve seen yet! If you can also do a video for the Freeport/Airport scene, that’d be heaven. Keep up the great work!
after two days after viewing tenet and seeing about 20-30 videos about tenet :D I have to say that the film is briliant with the time inverze. For me better experience than matrix now. So clever all.
One of the best movie i ever watched which i dont even understand fully. Love these weird mind bending movies. Sure it has its flaws but for whats its worth, its amazing.
This what makes nolan a genius. You can literally make whole Channels and threads off single scenes. I loved Tenet
Studio boss: I don't understand it
Nolan: you just have to feel it
Nolan: you just have to feel it
Studio boss: I don’t understand it
This part had puzzled me the most. Terrific explanation 👍🏻
THANK YOU. I had it about 85% in my head, but I wasn't able to grasp it fully.
Your work is amazing! Definitely helps to understand this extremely complicated movie.
This is going to be one of those movies where in the future once movie geeks like us go through every single scene and analyze it till infinity, the movie becomes a cult classic for the devoted who would die for it and the rest of normals can forget it thus achieving what Nolan wanted all along, just the ones who can do all this hard work to enjoy it and keep going back to watch it. He doesnt care if the reviews arent great or whether HBO Max or whatever are streaming it when its intended for the big screen, thats just fluff, at the end, its all about us watching these kinds of vids while Nolan basks in the glory of knowing he pulled it off. What can he even do next is what I want to know!!
Cult classic for life!
Nolan is uploading all this stuff with Welby Name LOL.
This is an amazing work, I think it will help many people to understand this. The people who already got it can piece it better together with this model 👍🏾
Best explanation I have seen. You are awesome dude!!!!
Nolan: sorry i started before you came
Viewers: we will catch up
This is crazy i totally missed that sators men collect the algorithm before(after?) it crashes.
that happens offscreen
It happens before the crash because Sator saw the hand off in inverse and told his normal men to retrieve the algorithm.
2:02 I really wish that was part of the film score, when Sator finds the piece of the Algorithm
Insane god-tier videos dude, great work.
Had been waiting for this . Great job man 🙌🏻
I will never get over how strange it is that they all just disappear after going into turnstile
They don't disappear, they simply move in the opposite direction.
never expected to lose so many brain cells watching what was supposed to be a casual movie night
These are really cool keep it up!
Bro you're so underrated. Don't worry you'll get more subs in the past.
not about the subs.
it's about Posterity :) 😀
You are truly a hero for making these videos.
Me before video : Yes finally I can understand what happened.
Also me after video : 🤔🤯🤯🤯
Great video and I hope you're mad enough to do the Oslo Freeport scene next.
I don't think the Saab is inverted.
If it were inverted, TP wouldn't have any issue driving it as he is also inverted, but he clearly does. He is also shown turning left to turn right, which he wouldn't need to do if the car was inverted with him.
When he first drives the car off, you can see that the "brake marks" in the dirt on the road are already there before the wheels start spinning. This shows that the car actually came to a stop there, not the other way around. If the car were inverted, this wouldn't happen in that way. Everything visually suggests that the car is normal whereas the driver is inverted.
Unfortunately this means there's a logical discrepancy because the car behaves inverted after Sator crashes it. The only real explanation is that since an inverted force causes the crash that means the outcome is inverted as well. This doesn't align with other things in the movie though (like the puddle TP steps in), so safe to say the inverted car issue is a plothole.
Sator's car being inverted doesn't make much sense either, btw. If that were the case, from its perspective it starts at the top of the highway and then just starts speeding off by itself (with TP and Kat in the car). Doesn't make sense because TP just tapped his fingers on the pedal to stop the car - he would have had to initiate some sort of cruise control to have it keep moving after he jumps back into the BMW.
I've probably watched this film too much.
Could it be that Sator's cigarette lighter is inverted so it causes an 'inverted fire' to start and burn (freeze) the Saab?
Addressing the Saab; When the Protagonist first shoots an “inverted bullet” they never mention a need for an inverted gun to catch it, just the inverted bullet itself. IMO the Saab doesn’t need to be inverted as well. Wheeler informs TP; (Gravity will feel normal, and friction and wind resistance are reversed)
the saab is moving too quickly to be driving in reverse, that alone is why it has to be inverted
Plus the explosion is inverted
it crashed backwards though
@@Callo_Arcwing Oh yeah, the Saab would need to be inverted for the scene to make any kind of sense.
I think the saab was in reverse actually as we never see any car actually invert in the movie and also anythings inverted such as sators car or inverted jp can influence forward moving objects.
This video came as god.... because this video gave & solved my lot of question's answer & confusions
Thank you!!!
Worth the wait
Great job
Great visualization! The one thing I still find confusing about this sequence is that when we see it from inverted TP's perspective, there is a shot that really makes it seem like forward TP sees himself in the Saab before tossing the algorithm. Meaning he should know where it is. It's also a bit strange that he wouldn't recognize the car as he gets in it when inverted, although I guess there was a lot going on in the chase so maybe he wouldn't notice? Seems like a weird oversight from Nolan though, am I missing something?
He does indeed see himself in the Saab. That is why he tossed it to himself.
After he is inverted, he does recognize the car. When he enters the vehicle, we see him take a quick look in the back seat but doesn't see the algorithm( in the script it is wedged under the seat).
He is short on time and focused on saving Kat so he shrugs it off and proceeds to drive.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Ahh gotcha, I never thought to go look at the script too, that's a good idea. I also forgot a crucial detail that at this point, he doesn't know what the algorithm is and probably still thinks what he stole is "only" plutonium, and therefore not as important as saving Kat. Thanks for the reply :)
Thank you both so much! I've been debating this scene with my friends for the past few days and you both answered my question. TP DID see himself inverted and tossed him the piece. Once inverted and walking outside, he DOES recognize the Saab and checks around the car for it (I never noticed that before). From his prospective, the inverted Sator went through the turnstile BEFORE he did. Knowing as much as the audience at that point, he most likely assumed the inverted Sator already took the piece out of the Saab before inverted TP got into it to chase Sator. TP says that he's going out to rescue Kat. He never says he's going to look for the algorithm because that is a second thought.
The only thing I still don't understand is when did TP roll down the window to the Saab? Every time you see the Saab, all of the windows are up until TP tosses in the algorithm. That might just be a nitpick
I think sator's right hand man (let's assume "X") knew everything before it happened. That's what I conclude watching your video.
1. At 0:16-0:19 how comes X know that he have to go to the reverse Suv with reverse Sator?
2. At 1:25 Black car consists Sator, Reverse and forward X, KAT and TP. Forward X taking TP and reverese X taking KAT, which mean in reverse time line The reverse X taking KAt out, which means at 0:52 the 4th balck car has been driven backward by reverse X in reverse timeline( Because in Suv there were reverse sator and forwarded X already). But why is he driving it backward? is this because The forward X already knew that the black car is gonna travel like this?
So its like X already knew everything, his only work was to maintain this sequence.
This is by far the most confusing scene.
I got lost on the 1st minute.
Nolan is genius
Amazing and fascinating! Even for this clip I needed to watch multiple times to understand what was happening forward and backward. This movie is absolutely the best.
Now THIS is the best explanation of this scene I ever see.. outstanding.. finally I can fully understand the scene