Simon Jordan INSISTS That the 3pm Blackout Should Be LIFTED & Reacts to Premier League TV Rights 👀
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2023
- TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan reacts to the Premier League's TV rights deal and reveals why he believes that the 3pm blackout should be lifted.
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I find it so disgusting that me who lives in Australia can watch every prem game live but in England where the sport is played fans can’t watch every game. Absolutely shocking
Because football has less value in Australia and it’s on at silly o’clock.
@@adammohamed.. Not really. You can watch live 3pm premier league matches in Spain, Portugal, France, Italy etc and for much cheaper than we're paying in the UK
You can watch it here if you know where to look
I would rather watch the game in peace knowing a venomous animal won't be wandering in haha. On a serious note you share the same voice us Brits do, hence why many use VPN's to stream an American broadcaster.
Disgusting? Get a grip. Yea it’s bad, but disgusting? Grow up
3pm blackout has to go, its disgusting
Not really, 3pm Saturday is when a lot of people will go watch their local team play. If the 3pm blackout wasn't there attendances in the lower leagues would drop.
@@allyofficial4547That was the purpose of this archaic rule which I believe now a days holds no real truth or substance to it
@@allyofficial4547it don’t drop when fixtures are played midweek, people who go and watch footy live will still go regardless
@@xaoc6084 Ironic when everything you claim is conjecture and has no means testing to prove that its the case. Non league attendances going up during international breaks proves the opposite of what you think.
@@allyofficial4547you might have been right in the 80s but people that enjoy going to their local won’t stop going if that’s the team they support and people that support prem teams won’t suddenly start watching new team live all of a sudden
I'd love to see a live 3pm Premier League game on a Saturday. I don't think it would affect attendances given how expensive a season ticket is these days and you cant turn up at the gate to buy a ticket anymore. All the seats have been pre-sold already. As for lower leagues the fans will turn up in any case as its their club. Why would they stay at home instead to watch a PL game?
Because it isn't just about existing fans. It's about local people, young kids etc that clubs are always trying to attract. A 12 year old who lives in Cheltenham will find a Saturday 3pm kickoff in League 1/2 way more appealing to go to with his dad when there's nothing else to watch than Liverpool v Man City on at the same time. The Lower Leagues are littered with people who grew to love their local team through going and witnessing live football. Being introduced to football at a young age via a TV and watching the best players in the world from your living room and growing up with endless Premier League coverage will make local and lower league football infinitely less attractive to watch
@@AJ-ct8omyou’re just giving out 1960s propaganda to the blackout
@@kirkham111no thats actually how it is
@@myerg2977 it isn’t
@@kirkham111i know many people that go and watch local lower league teams on a saturday so yeh it is
For once I agree with Barnet. The 3pm blackout just increased illegal streaming
The most illegally streamed game ever was Ronaldos return vs Newcastle. They could have easily and should have screened that game. If you can't watch what you pay for, you'll find a way, and then the PL lose either way
Easy to do it. Save money with a 5-second delay on live football. 🎉
@@stevegreen9612 The PL don't lose anyhting, the stadiums are sold out and the money they get from broadcasters doesn't change due to people streaming it online instead of paying for it, that's quite obvious, if they were losing cash due to it they'd have done something to prevent. Not enough people have the brains to even find a stream for games not on TV so it'll never overly affect anyhing.
@@clivemerritt it's genuinely time the fans took a stand. These players/clubs are absolutely taking the piss out of fans, and they know it
It’s not rocket science, I don’t get why it’s still a thing
I've just cancelled my sky sports and TNT subscriptions. I'm not paying over 50 notes a month anymore for possibly one game I want to watch a fortnight, while all the others are on at 3pm Saturdays or weirdly, 2pm Sundays that they don't air either. Absolute joke. My mate watches everything via the illegal streams, but I've never bothered because I didn't think they were too stable, but that's what I'm on from now on. Disgraceful pricing
The best games are never on at 3pm. Name me the last time, one of the big six played at 3pm Sunday.
@adammohamed.. it doesn't matter if the "best" games are on. Who are sky to say what I can and can't watch for £70 a month? And the "big 6"? OK, United played vs Brentford a few weeks back, and vs Brighton, city played at3pm 2 weeks back, same for arsenal. What's your point?
Good lad. Get all your mates to follow suit and maybe we'll force them into a change.
@@stevegreen9612 I think you're overestimating your self-worth. Who are Sky ? a multibillion company who played a huge role in making our league the worlds best. But its not Sky who enforce the blackout. its been in place since the 50s
@adammohamed.. I'm not over estimating anything. If x amount of a percentage of people did what I've done, sky would collapse. You reckon they could pay the billions to clubs without the fans? Not a chance. If sky suddenly demanded it because they lost so much money, believe me, that 3pm blackout would disappear overnight
Simon is right when he says the overseas rights are going to be the next big play... Over here in the states, the premier League has grown leaps and bounds and is one of the top watched sporting events of the weekend. NBC sports has done a fantastic job
Well there isn't any blackout in the week when European games are shown live on TV and the lower league teams play domestically at the same time. Why should the Premier League games have to suffer? This 3pm blackout to protect attendances is complete nonsense.
Doesn’t make sense at all why it’s still a thing
It hurts the PL. If you pay for BT and Sky and then find yourself enabling a way of streaming a 3 o'clock game, what do you end up doing?
The black out is archaic, Have always found it ridiculous that as a fan you can’t watch your team live every game, many of us would love to go live every week but either work in different cities or can’t afford the outrageous ticket prices or would have to wait years as a member to obtain enough loyalty to get to the best games, the minimum we should get as fans is to watch our team live, I personally would rather pay for a streaming platform that only gives me access to all my clubs games then pay for sky where I might get the live game once or twice a month, easy win for the lawmakers imo
Indeed
I’m a villa fan living in Newcastle and I get to watch my team maybe, once every 3 weeks? And it’s not like I can afford to get down to Birmingham every two weeks. Not asking for a lot, just wanna watch my team
Especially since majority of the games are at 3pm
it should be our right to be able to watch any premier league game live on TV, we live in the country and pay way over the odds for access to it, and yet people the other side of the world can and cheaper too.. we really have to start a movement for them to change this
I agree but I also know I won’t stop watching my team play, unless we all start watching illegally
Laughable that anyone pays for SkySports. You literally pay for non-stop adverts. It's a joke.
How about scrap the 3pm kick-offs altogether if they are worried about lower league attendances suffering? Why not have all Prem games on the Saturday shown at 12:30, 17:30 or 19:30?
There's literally zero evidence for the lower league theory.
@@0casey963 so you'd rather see lower leagues suffer? Hmmmm. Either that or you don't care about how important lower leagues are to the pyramid of football and just watch Premier League.
@@0casey963 how? - not necessarily because one fifth of their own Prem teams games are on at 3pm Saturday anyway. It's only a fifth which is nothing. They go to more early and evening games over the course of the season.
And if the Prem want to clamp out illegal streaming then don't put games on at 3pm so fans can turn up at lower leagues games if they so please. It's a win-win for Prem and the lower leagues, hence Simon's input agreeing with this and the medias debate on the topic.
Always good to listen to Simons articulated knowledge on talksport. Like most fans (season ticket holder) going to the game is 100 x better than watching it on TV. Its about time the 3pm ban was lifted. Football has outgrown this old ruling and needs to move with the times. I love a Saturday 3pm kickoff instead of these other Sky dictated times like 8pm Sat night kick offs! Crowds will always be the same as fans prefer the atmosphere!
It's pretty ironic that Sky never put the value of the deal in their headline. They knew their would be backlash abt subscription prices as well as clubs can afford to reduce match-day/season ticket prices
The argument for a 3pm blackout is completely redundant now. The premier league games are available all over the world, this means people can stream them illegally with very little difficulty now. Those who want to stay at home and watch 3pm kickoffs are already doing it. Those who want to go to their local games are already doing it. Its a pointless rule.
Thanks for this statistically researched comment
Exactly, even if there wasn’t illegal steaming I still wouldn’t go down to my local team
I read somewhere that folks in the UK have to pay upwards of $100 a month to stream the Premier League and don't even get all the games. That's absolutely ridiculous. In Aus, I can watch pretty much every major league, bar the Champions League, with a single subscription under 50 Aussie dollar
As a fan of Gateshead I've always wanted to see the data on attendance on games played during the blackout Vs games played when Newcastle are on the TV. I personally don't believe that significant number of people who live in Byker think oh I'll go and watch Gateshead because Newcastle aren't on the TV. I think this is especially true given how easy 3pm games are to pirate. This basically means the genie is out of the bottle for the 3pm blackout.
It's for that reason i actually think the 3pm blackout could be doing more harm then good. It puts up a front of trying to support the lower leagues. Instead what should happen is teams like Man City, Newcastle, Manchester United and frankly all the Premier League should put their hands in their pocket and help ensure the 'smaller' clubs around them don't go out of business. It would also be too their benefit. If Newcastle invested 8m a year in local sport all they'd have to do is sell 40m worth of players in 8 years. Something that's a lot easier to do when grass roots football in your area has been well funded.
Exactly, who’s idea was it in the first place? And why is it so protected??
I’ve just moved back to the UK after 7 years of living in Dallas and it’s been the most frustrating thing not being able to watch all the games
The fans who want the 3pm games to be on sky dont go to the matches anyway
It’s practically impossible to get a ticket for any epl match anyway because they’re sold out weeks in advance and existing season ticket holders get priority for renewal each year so they can keep going and potentially prevents any new fans actually going to see their team live anyway.
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
**PL*
If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.
@slurpking9509 I'm an Arsenal fan 45,000 of the 60k capacity is season ticket holders. There's a 10+ year waiting list for season tickets and the fanbase is only growing. You think the extra 15k is enough for the test of us? No.
@@kunimitsune177 Its known globally as the EPL or English Premier League due to the amount of leagues with "premier" in the name worldwide and the fact it doesnt contain the sport within its name like say.. The NBA. Now open a new tab and come out from under that rock.
Can women's football be blacked out 24/7 please?
This week having games on Amazon has been awesome
quick easy and can turn of commentary whilst you watch
I honestly wish Amazon had all games all the time
Prime much cheaper than sky aswell
Live in Ireland and we can only watch one 3pm kick off, whole thing is bizarre.
I’d personally love to see the 3pm blackout waived. It’s not stopping me finding coverage of the games one way or another, be that cheekily or via Sky Sports news or similar. Waiving the blackout would never stop me going to Villa Park if I was offered the ticket, of course the live game is preferable to the telly but I can’t afford to go every week home and away as much as I’d love to.
Sotv
@@0casey963if I’m not wrong I think rangers and Celtic have something similar to that
Yes, it's like the old Sunday trading laws. It needs to go.
No need to block 3pm kick off's these days other than money. If its fair people will pay to watch 3pm kick off's!
Going to see your team play in person, however small that team, is such a different experience to watching another team on TV, that i don't see how one affects the other. I dont think anyone who normally enjoys going to see their team with friends/family every week, would suddenly stop just to watch Liverpool, for example, play on TV.
" sorry Granddad, I know we've been doing this every week for years now, but premier league is on TV so I won't be going to matches with you anymore "
Maybe not of this generation. But you think the next lot of kids growing up who have the choice between watching Sutton vs mk dons in the pissing rain or staying in and watching United, city, liveroool, Chelsea ect? And not even the kids making that choice, the dads short on money or the mums that aren’t into football ect. If you support a big team you’ll never understand. We (swindon) are getting top crowds for league 2 with a piss poor team. If football is Available in all pubs and all houses in the country at the same time of course that’ll drop off. Especially if they’re not doing well. If you’re winning the league you’ll always have extra fans there.
Why do you think i completely support illegal streaming at this time because i cant watch a match i want to 3. Its not necessary this black out anymore stadiums will always be full
The cameras are already there. It's being broadcast globally by Premier League Productions. It would cost nothing more. If it starts to effect attendances then it can be rolled back. Still prefer to watch live.
Absolutely it should be lifted.
The knock on effect is sky are going to pass on the prices to the customers
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
I cannot see Prem games happening across the globe. Would seem like a stupid decision unless they have a specific period where they all happen. Still a terrible idea imo
Totally agree Simon
I can't even buy a ticket face value to see arsenal, my team, what harm is going to be done by me watching a paid UK stream rather than an illegal stream... Idiotic
I won’t pay for sky or bt to see my club not televised in uk but you can see every game in the states or Australia.
They will still save the big games to broadcast at any time other than Saturday 3pm!
The crazy thing is if they open up every game to be watched that is being recorded across all divisions which i have to say is not impossible and pretty easy in this day in age then why wouldnt you go for that maximum cash input into something that is about money. The rights should trickle down all the leagues so it raises the bar again across the whole leagues but why not create a channel that is basically PLANET FOOTBALL and take everyones money, from Division 1 games to the Prem take everyones money one way or another?
If clubs are getting enough money through the tv then they can lower their ticket prices and pack out their grounds win win...
them fire sticks come in handy
I haven't always agreed with Mr Jordan, but respect to your comment that "players are overpaid". I wonder how much more effort would be seen from numerous players if they were on Performance Related Pay?
Simon Jordan is just incredibly clever. Always insightful listening to his perspectives
its ridiculous. has attendance stopped at half 12 and 5pm games? no
It’s for the lower league clubs who play at 3pm
I think it’s more that if you can’t watch 3pm kick offs then you’re more likely to go watch your local lower league team and so help them financially. But it doesn’t work as people will just stay in and watch Soccer Saturday etc for live scores instead.
No live TV footie at 3pm Saturday, but it's fine Sunday? Makes absolutely no sense.
There are ways to watch ANY 3pm game in the uk !!!!!
Games should be streamed individually (on clubs own apps) on a pay per view basis with as little amount of games on at the same time.
why i live in switzerland have swiss sky we watch all games live and we the german league all games are streamed live. wont make any differance to games if 3pm games are shown
3pm blackout is so outdated...people are finding ways around it which is no surprise
As and when Sky lose the PL, they're finished.
Silly of the PL to sell to Sky and BT at a cheaper rate per annum than they had previous. It would be easier and better if an Amazon had bought it, so it's all on One platform that can be paid for per game or as a purely PL package instead of being forced to have a an "entertainment package" before paying extra for the football.
With 6 years they've also put a hold on any potential to create their own platform.
3 oclock thing is pointless. But even without that some games cant be watched. You can pay for Sky and BT and find yourself streaming a game at 3 oclock or whilst another game is on TV.
The Amazon games in December are good as you can watch whichever game you like out of all the games that are actually on.
Who knew morcombe and wise would make such good talk sport hosts.
Next stop - VR Seats in the stadium. You are welcome Sky.
Football is becoming popular in America, and this is a sports mad country. In the next decade, the tv rights in not the America will be larger than the Prems domestic deal
Why does Simon look like Bo Selecta from Shameless though?
with this money going into TV rights they should ALL make it easier for us paying to watch it, sadly its still not that easy
Loved what simon said about women's football slots needed to have the growth! The numbers/stats dont lie! Well done simon 👏🏻
USA is the market that could see the money in the Premier League go to new levels. The NFL is the richest league in any sport just by being popular in the USA and the USA TV channels are richest in the world and pay hundreds of billions for sport. The Premier League is exploding in popularity in the USA, to such an extent that one of the most popular sitcoms in the USA is about the Premier League in Ted Lasso. The Premier League has the smart idea built into their USA TV contract that at least one game a week on free to air TV in the USA giving the Premier League unprecedented viewership in the USA. That is why the American TV rights have seen the most growth of any region because it has gone from 600 million to 3 billion in just 10 years. And because it is getting decent ratings in the USA, if there is a bidding war between USA networks for the Premier League TV rights, you could triple the amount of money the Premier League is earning.
Whilst I lived in China I could watch every premier League game (except arsenal when the Chinese government fell out with them) for £200 a year, and now in England I would have to pay out of my nose to watch a fraction of that.
Simon is 100% correct as he almost always is, however much it grieves me to admit it.
well it will cost more money they will have to supplement more resources broadcasting 90 extra games
Instead of players getting richer, how about reducing ticket prizes with that money instead!
Simon is a bag of knowledge, can’t believe he knows about peacock for premiership football for peanuts 😂
Hes got a lot of researchers that make him sound intelligent. Hes good at delivery but hes being spoonfed. Its an old trick of presenting
Can the fans han thr option to turn the football commentary and pundits off before and during a football match
Makes no difference if the match is on tv to weather i go to the match
Imagine tho. Uefa: you gonna play more european games and travel more when youre already running average 10 injuries per team.
Funny money man: What about travelling to Canada for man city vs arsenal title decider match in 2029.
Do what?
lol
5:10 how wrong Simon is !!!
Lower class incomes were pushed out of football stadiums with ticket prices years ago…. I’d say 99% of Everyone attending games are working middle class and are not as affected by the cost of living crisis !!!
That statement just shows how out of touch these ‘money men’ really are with reality !
Some still think it’s a working class sport ….
I don't miss any 3 pm kick
Offs
When I lived in Thailand was the only time I bought the EPL package because it was easy and simple. All the games on one channel.
There’s no way I’ll ever buy sky or bt
Firestick all the way through PL - why should I by sky sports tnt when they don’t show every game. Like they do in American and Australia
Clubs will get MILLIONS in extra revenue from extended TV deals for 3pm K/O’s, so if they’re worried that fans will stop going to watch live, then make tickets affordable and you’ll have a sell out every game!
Most top teams have waiting lists for tickets!
My God, I feel for the players, just for the epl and the broadcasters to make money they force players to play more games and have no time for recovery, no time for family, always on the travel, such a hectic schedule will shorten players careers, really sad that good football players will not last for long and finish their career injured
If the players don't get richer I want to pay less money for tickets and TV , I don't wanna pay my money to some suit I pay to watch the talent.
Should just keep the 3pm black out but only have like 3 games in them slots then broadcast the other 7 games around it👍
All though they could trial it
Protects the lower clubs could be an argument, but with our hospitality and pubs struggling over recent years. Showing all the games would help increase revenue for that industry. This would also increase the local community because week in week out we can watch our great teams play. People who can't afford to go the games don't magically grow money on a tree because of a blackout and can afford £100 for a trip to see their team. The Premier League is built upon the fans of this country, working class attending game, increasing revenue and demand for the sport. It isn't right that now it has became such a world recognised product that the broadcasters can just rinse the British Public. What happened to value for money and having a good product.
SJ broke it down nicely.
It’s not often I agree with everything someone says. But Simon has it spot on.
As a long term ST holder at NUFC it wouldn't bother me one iota if games were shown live on a Saturday - I'd still go. I think match going fans are a different breed to those who just want to watch their team on TV. That's not a dig at anybody, some people can't get there and some can't be bothered - they'd rather watch on TV and that's fine. I don't think it would affect the attendances one bit. You either love going to games, or you don't. For me there's nothing better than being there and being part of the club I love. But that's just me and everybody is different.
As for playing one of our games abroad? Gtfooh. We're Newcastle, we play in Newcastle and if someone abroad wants to watch us live then you'll be made more than welcome at SJP. Normal away games are hard enough without having a home game in America!!!
Football has always been a tribal affair. You dilute it if you take important league or cup games on tour. If it's not broken, please, stop trying to fix it.
it's not even that some can't be bothered (although that is true), but more that they simply can't afford the outlay.
Don’t normally agree with SJ but totally agree with him on this 1
The 3pm blackout is completely out of date people will go to the games regardless if it’s on tv or not
Nah I'm sure a lot of people would stay in to watch their 'big team' instead of going to watch their local side.
A good way for non-league clubs to attract more fans is the Saturday 3pm kick-off. Local people who support a bigger club are more likely to attend their local non-league team if they can't watch a game live on TV at 3pm. So I hope scraping the blackout won't negatively effect clubs lower down the pyramid. But I think it is time to scrap it. Its completely unfair that people abroad can watch every game live but we in the UK aren't legally allowed to.
Prem is Australia is free with my mobile plan
Looking forward to the massive jump in the sky sports subscription 🤣
Scrap the stupid blackout rule. Play prem games 1 game on friday 8pm on Saturday 2 games 12.30pm kickoff and 5.30pm. Leave 3pm kickoff for efl and lower leagues to stream for example on sky red button or efl stream channel. Sunday 6 games 1 kickoff 12.30pm 4 games 3pm 1 game 5.30pm and Monday night football 8pm 1 game. Women's football kickoff 11am on Saturday and sunday
I think the 3pm kick off should be cancelled. PL football should be visible for everyone
The 3pm ruling is absolute bolocks, it perotects nothing, any fan that say's they don't illegally stream their teams 3pm games online or 2pm kick off on a sunday that aren't televised and instead go down and watch a lower league side are complete liars, people who go to games will ALWAYS go to games, this won't change because game's at 3pm in the premier league are on the bloody TV. Due to how many games there anw now on TV across a weekend there is only 3-4 games on at 3pm in the premier league these days.
Sheffield United non season ticket holders would like to thank Sky and TNT personally for not giving them the opportunity to watch their team play week in week out for 90 minutes.
I think the 3pm kick-off isn't the way forward
As regards the wages , on BBC 1, M.O.T.D SKY SPORTS do not need former or others to tell us what they should do have not done and why they did what they did , WE WATCHED IT , AND WHY SO MANY PEOPLE 5 YOU ONLY NEED 2 . PUT ANOTHER WAY THEY CAN NOT AFFECT THE START OR CHANGE IT AT HALF TIME OR CHANGE RESULT . .
It’s been said already but the fact Americans can watch every premier league match if they want to baring in mind it isn’t even really one of their top sports yet we can’t is disgraceful. You can also bet it will now be more expensive with the new deal for us to pay for sport
I’m not going to the ground. I’m not going to watch local teams. Just let me watch live every game the team plays that I have supported for over sixty years and I will pay for that service. Simple really and you will make even more profit ffs.
Tbh if i didnt play fantasy football i wouldnt watch football at all now. When your team isnt winning its not so fun, you notice the bad parts of the game way more
3pm blackout is pointless for prem clubs I get it for lower level but even the championship would be fine. You can stream anything you want these days anyway
exactly, and how are you going to tell clubs like liverpool that have maybe millions of fans in the UK, that only 50k odd of them can watch the game and if they can’t get in they should go to another game
Premier teams get most of their revenue from the TV rights now NOT attendance at the stadiums. Football is so popular now
3pm live games will not detract from attendance in stadiums, it will just create even more revenue.!
And a portion of that revenue could be distributed to lower league teams
Undoutebly? Say again?
I’ve never understood why clubs can’t sell their own games
If they film it and promote it themselves to their own fans via a subscription service
What’s the harm 🤷♂️
if you can go you will go it’s always been the same
Because you’d have teams like lfc and United taking the majority of revenue. The whole point of organised leagues is collective bargaining and it would lead to lopsided leagues
@@Rubionion well you wouldn’t because you’d only see what you’d subscribe too
If you subscribe to Leyton Orient or Bournemouth why would the big six get anything?
Live in New Hampshire, USA. I need 2 seperate streaming services. And I still cant watch all the games because I dont have cable. Cable is another 150 a month...wtf
Go away
The 3pm blackout is irrelevant, everyone watches the games they want online anyway
Does these charges for man City if proven mean they can be RELIGATED. If so what you have said is it will not be sorted till 2029 to 2030 , by that then Man City could have 32 more trophies ,counting champions league. I also think 20% of Premier league wages should go to NHS, well the players use it more than normal people.
HAHAHA! Lots more cash for owners
Simon: *rubs hands*
More cash for players
Simon: Hopefully not
More cash for agents
Simon: Hopefully not
Classic Simon
you say that like it's a bad thing. Players are far too rich compared to the average person, so they don't need any money. More money to the owners (who generally also don't personally need it) helps to sort out stadium maintenance, club costs, staff payroll, police bills, transfer fees, agent bribes (sorry, fees), etc...
Wish the bubble burst somehow and the whole thing collapses - how much more money do the players need - it’s disgusting
It’s far worse. They get ALL games for that £10. Jokes
What 3pm blackout 😜
These early starts are for American audiences and thats because half the clubs in the premier are bought by American linked companies, giving less respect to home fans.
The funny thing is is that the States will overpay what our domestic companies do and will STILL charge the customer the same price if not $5-10 more. Sky and TNT do not understand that the customers will suffer and not them. Moving to VPN for USA Network, Peacock and NBC next season so I can watch EVERY game all for one price and not just a select few. Failing that, the Premier League should just do their own streaming service.