I love Tom Brady and the Patriots. I was sad and angry (at the Patriots) when Tom left. Now I'm happy he did. Even the most venom spitting Tom Brady haters are now... finally... in the same camp as everyone else. They can no longer deny what Tom Brady is. I felt the Patriots should have opened their check book and told Tom "Write whatever you want on it." and left the room. They would know Tom would only take what he thought was fair and ensure they had plenty of money for the rest of the team. He's always said, "I'll stop playing when I suck." And I believe him. If he felt he couldn't help the team anymore he'd walk and leave the rest of the money on the table. Tom Brady earned that. The vast majority of Pats fans would rather see the team struggle a bit at the end of his career than see him go to another team. Bill fucked up. He had the one player in history that you truly DON'T treat like every other player.
Definitely a point, y’all just mad and can’t actually refute what he’s saying because it’s all based on facts, explain to me how his analogy didn’t make sense?
@@bobbythomas6520 Name the times Brady walked out of the stadium with time left in the game simply cause his team was behind. BOOM 💥 NOW put your three masks back on & STFU the adults are talking snowflake
@@bobbythomas6520 Does LeBron have more rings than any other nba player ever? He doesn't even have as many as 15 other players let alone Jordan The GOAT who has every record not involved in just playing along time.
@@Destined4FourGreatness 2015 he shot below 40% FG, 2016 yes all time great, 2017 he was great but choked in game 3 (a winnable game), he then played terrible game 4 2018 and made a injured hand excuse prior to the game cuz he was gonna throw the game
As much as I think Nick is a complete and utter failure as a football analyst, I do like the way he owns up when he's wrong - unlike Kellerman who just keeps digging.
In fairness to Kellerman, I think it was his job to take an over-the-top, opposite perspective from Stephen A. It would have been a very boring show if he took a balanced view. At times, you can tell even he didn't believe what he was spewing.
Mahomes had the most pressure in a Super Bowl. Brady had the second most. Anyone else see Mahomes face? Broken and defeated. Listen to Strahan on how Brady took being killed by the Giants front four. Also, Brady's last AFC championship against Manning. Listen to how Miller talks about Brady. Brady never got the cuddling and excuse making from the media despite handling the pressure meter.
Brady had way more pressure than any athlete in a championship game ever vs the Seahawks, and then arguably even more against the Falcons. Imagine if they lose vs the Seahawks weeks after Deflategate? EVERYONE would've been saying, "lol 0-3 in Super Bowls since caught for cheating" and he would've become the scapegoat instead of the goat. He would've become the most hated athlete of all time. Then against the Falcons, had they lost as badly as it seemed they might when it was 28-3, the narrative would've been pretty similar "lol 1-3 in Super Bowls since caught for cheating and the only win was because the dumbass Seahawks didn't run and got completely smoked and exposed vs the Falcons". He was playing with his entire legacy on the line, his entire career and everything he'd accomplished and put into the sport would've counted for nothing, he would've been universally despised by everyone outside of New England anyways.
For Mahomes to become the GOAT, he needs to win at least 10 SB rings. Winning even 8 won't be enough because TB has beaten him TWICE when it mattered the most on his way to winning 2 SBs. So yeah, 9 would start the debate, 10 to seal the deal. To even consider him the GOAT, he gotta win 8 more minimum. Good luck.
@Destined4FourGreatness it's 100% true tho. I'd argue that regardless of how many SB's Mahomes wins, he will always lose the debate. Brady beat him in the SB & AFC championship games...there's no coming back from that
Tom Brady he’s the greatest quarterback of all time you can talk all you want but that’s a fact just be happy you had a chance to see him in your lifetime
If you don't believe that a person needs more wins then Tom Brady......to be better then him.....then what the hell is the point of winning.....in the words of Ric Flair.......and I quote.....If you wanna be the man.....you gotta beat the man......
Tom Brady is a .... Great ATHLETE . FOOTWORK IN THE POCKET TO EVADE THE RUSH AND SACKS....ACCURACY IN THREADING THE NEEDLE TO WRs double covered....HIS ABILITY UNMATCHED FOR PUTTING THE RIGHT TOUCH ON THE BALL as the situation dictates...are all greatest ever. These are , of course, all physical athletic attributes...as is his very decent quick release time. Brady almost certainly is the most intelligent athlete in sports history ( attended and graduated from the prestigious, demanding, world famous University of Michigan) , and his ability to read defenses combined with his leadership, discipline, hard work ethic etc.are, of course, cerebral attributes . It is when you combine Brady's great athleticism ( the guy was drafted by both major league baseball and THE NFL , for cripe sakes !) , with his IQ and other cerebral attributes you arrive at the very reason " WHY "Thomas Edward Patrick Brady is the B.O.A.T; i.e. best of all time and the greatest player in NFL history regardless of position. As for : Bill Russell, Wilt. Gretzky. Howe . Cy Young . Babe Ruth . Michael Jordan . etc. They all play in sports that are best of 7 throughout the playoffs whereas every single game of the NFL playoffs is single elimination folks!!!!!!!! Finally, there is this to condider: Sure,jealous hateful Brady haters. Tom Brady may not beat LeBron, MJ, etc.,in a " foot race" which is such a silly, stupid, foolish statement , but then none of them can throw a football as far AND as accurately as this truly GREAT ATHLETE, Tom Brady. THERE is only one ( 1) athlete in major league team sports of ANY KIND that won a regular season MVP AWARD while in their 40s ... and it's no accident that the athlete who stands alone in this department is: Tom Brady. To judge any athlete's true greatness the playoffs stats and wins, of course,do matter and should be weighted heavily. However, every athlete's career is over 90 percent ...or WAY MORE ...in the regular season which must always ALWAYS... ALWAYS... be paramount and be deemed far more significant and important for obvious reasons. Marino , Charles Barkley , Fran Tarkington, and so many hall of famers who never won any title did not have Scottie Pippin, Lou Geherg, etc. on the team to make a championship possible. They are still duly recognized as all time greats . What makes Brady's sustained greatness so awesome is that he owns seemingly countless salient regular season career regular season records for a QB AND ALSO owns virtually every single salient QB record for the playoffs. Combined...He is preeminent in the history of sports . The only athlete ever who is not in Brady's rear view mirror for excellence and exceptionalism is .....Secretariat. Case closed ....enjoy him while you still can ALL sports fans . Tom Brady, the honest , honorable , humble, genius leader is no longer merely "legendary " he is a sports IMMORTAL. Case closed forever.
How soon we forget, Nick! Before LeBron and Brady there was the Bambino: 714 home runs, .342 lifetime batting average, 7 World Series championships and a 2.28 ERA in 6 years as a pitcher with the Boston Red Sox.
Don't forget The Babe! Three rings with Red Sox as the best hitter AND pitcher on the team. Gets traded. They don't win again for 86 years. His new team, he wins four rings and they are recognized as the greatest baseball franchise and the 1920s versions are recognized as the greatest baseball team ever. GOAT.
Yes the Babe was awesome! But you still have seven and done versus one and done! There are also four seven and done in all sports except NASCAR! The NFL is the premier sport! What sport has the pounding you get from the NFL! TB has been hit so damn hard and so many times and by men so much larger and physically stronger than he is and was! Yet they attack his physic and his total athleticism! You tell me how outa shape he is that he is 45 and still at the level he is! He is 45 and a pick to win the Superbowl again! TB is the greatest athlete of all time bar none! Mind and body and spirit nobody touches him! Throw in how everyone loves him that is with him. Throw in how many a man should emulate him as the Father he is! He is one hell of a man both on the field and off the field!!! He is the one and only G.O.A.T of all time and of everyone!!!!!
kareem won 71 high school games in a row, went to ucla and won 3 ncaa championships in a row, went to the bucks and won a ring, left, went to the lakers and won 5 more
@@nwikomao.., they been waiting since 2007…. That team haven’t make the playoff and constantly in the bottom of the division . This expert Nicky gonna lie and tell everyone they are SB team. Before Tom Brady get there nobody predict the Bucs win shit…
@@lawrencescotthoneycutt9923don’t reply to that hater…. Nobody in the NFL think the Bucs is a SB team before TB get there. Every team TB on is always SB Contender…
While we are on the subject of comparing LBJ with TB, the room they share might look the same, but TB's room is definitely bigger. TB won the SB the 1st year he joined the Bucs. LBJ never won the title the 1st year he joined a team. TB recruited people to join him. LBJ made the team pay a ransom to get people to join him. Star players who join TB like him. Not everyone LBJ recruits have had nice things to say about him. And we aren't even in the topic of actual success which is 7-4 if anyone else is counting. But agree, unlike MJ, TB and LBJ have found success where ever they went. It is hard to say MJ would have, but he was just in an era where you don't move around a lot. So you cant prove he would have done the same.
Only teammate to ever say something negative about LBJ was kyrie. And tbh I’m not even sure that’s true. All of lebron star teammates like dwade, Chris Bosh, AD, and Kevin love all love bron💯
IT'S ABOUT THE RINGS, HE DOES NEED 8 TO BE THE NEW GOAT. JORDAN AND KOBE SAID IT BEST....IM PLAYING FOR CHAMPIONSHIPS NOTHING ELSE. EVERY PLAYER GET STATS.
Lol Patrick mahomes cant replicate what brady have achieved and this is the fact like tom brady have studied football so well that he knows each team's and it weakness
That still will not be enough . Why? Because all qbs like mahomes and even those who come after him like Lawrence, will have the benefit of padded stats due to the NFL greedily adding a 17th extra game to the annual schedules. Stir in the fact, that Mahomey will never ever be able to live down this truth ....that an ancient well past his prime qb in his 40s old enough almost to be Mahomey's DAD.... still beat an in his prime 20s something Mahomey and a KC team chuck full of pro bowl all stars AT LEAST TWICE ,including on...Mahomey's own home field!!! Ouch but true. Tammy Newton, Russell Wilson,Watson, Mahomey....all were supposed to be the " next best thing ever " recall .However , they ...and even Aaron Rogers,Brees. and Peyton Manning all fine hall of fame players all lived in the shadow of Tom Brady's.....rear view mirror. Now it is the overrated, overpaid, fragile injury prone Mahomey who was humiliated and the latest to eat Brady's dust. Ouch but true. Case closed forever.
Not only that he needs to be bale to put up the stats only 1 year minus the year he had to sit out 4 games hes thrown for atleast 4k and thats including his "terrible" 2019 year where he had 4k 28tds but that was apparently a down year
Unless Mahomes learns how to read defenses at least on an acceptable level, He will win maybe 1 or 2 more. SB. So far Pat is a passing qb with running back/Lamar Jackson/Cam Newton mentality, Pat's tremendous throwing talent let him win 1 SB, but can't help him in playoffs against Brady.
People seem to forget Lebron plays in places, makes a bunch of moves and when he leaves they miss the playoffs because of the moves he wanted. That Lakers team is so much more different from when he got there.
LJ can’t be compared to Brady...... has Brady quit on his teams ever ? Has Brady mentioned even once he’s the goat ? Has Brady every talked about politics and destroyed rating ? Is Brady a diva like LJ ? Has Brady ever complained about lack of talent ? Has Brady ever sat in front of his peers and proclaimed he’s the Goat....... so again LJ isn’t even in the same league. Don’t get me wrong LJ is a freak of an athlete gifted how ever more about his brand than the absolute love of the game.... Remember Cal Ripken JR, MJ, Bird, Sugar Ray Lenard, Pele (spelling soccer player) Terry O’reilly, and many others it wasn’t about brand only the love of the game. LJ in basketballs may be 7th all time because the legions I know never quit on there teams.
No Tom is not the greatest athlete of all times but he is the greatest leader, the greatest QB and the greatest player with the most confidence in his ability.
@@kingsman8475 He himself admits that he isn't a great athlete, he has always made that claim, and that's why he says, "fortunately for me, that's not what being a quarterback is either".
Exactly right. There is no 2nd 3rd and 4th chances in the NFL when it comes playoff time so to make it through and win one SB is far more difficult than a Finals in NBA. Shaq and Barkley even admitted this on their show because in football every playoff game is a game 7 no do overs, no let’s go back to the drawing board and make adjustments for when we play them tomorrow.
The problem wasn't toms skills it was the lack of talent around him. Look at the list of receivers he's had during his career. Only two Randy Moss and gronk and the record speaks for its self. No other QB. In the history of the league has done more with less. That is on bill for not drafting talent around HIM.
The difference between LeBron and Brady is LeBron actually has named Superstars playing with him when Brady is in a Class by Himself or a team by yourself with no Superstars every year they have no superstars in offense look at up there's no debating nobody is better than Brady in any sport
I kept relatively quiet when 'winningest' started getting used... 'losingest' is too much.... Stop making up words... We already have a language.... Learn it.....Use it......
First I'd recommend for you to go buy a dictionary. Secondly language are created by people and a lot of new words have been added as well. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean it didn't exist 😅😅
@@AlongLegend This is none of those things... It is laziness or incompetence masquerading as a rationale evolution of language... Losingest.... ... Leave the vowels alone too while we are on the topic!! 🤣🤣🤣
Im just wandering whats nicks saying when he used the words "they are the system" if his reffering to system as winning then babe ruth, michael phelps and hussain bolts should and must be in that room his talking otherwise he's right to say that lbl was the only one in that room cuz TB12, MJ, THE BABE, MICHAEL PHELPS and HUSSAIN BOLTS are on the VIP ROOM
You can’t have a system with one part. Therefore, you can throw out Phelps and Bolt. Being a one man show in an individual sport doesn’t make you a system. Lol
Technically peyton manning did it also. Not even a manning fan. He did it on another team. Whether they carried him or not. He was top of a lot of statistical categories. Brady fan all the way though
@@artovereverything8754 Yes both Peyton and LeBron did It! However nobody left a playoff team ( which immediately became a losing team) and won in a first year. Also Peyton was a shade of himself and maybe 30 percent responsible for the win which was a good playoff team before manning joined them.In contrast Brady completely changed a culture of a long losing team in 1 year, beat scoring offense record ( the only team ever to score minimum 30 points on 4 straight playoff games) So despite defense playing superbly in SB ,I give Tom 70 percent responsibility for win.Le bron went to winning teams with the exception of 2nd time Cleveland which had excellent roster the year he came back. Peyton and James together have less titles than Tom (So are all the football teams in league history, which is even more insane).So in 19 years of playing Tom achieved more than any team,which some of those teams exist 100 years.!
LeBron James abandoned Cleveland for greener pastures where he knew his best chance of winning a championship was teaming Up with Bosch & Wade. Then, after winning a couple of rings, he returns to Cleveland, wins a ring, and then he abandons them for greener pastures in LA. James is NOT "The System," he chases after "the system!"
By now Mahomes feels the constraints of the cap space (stacked offense, but godawful defense), and the league has adapted to his style, and he is unwilling to adapt on his part. By now he might rather join Rodgers (=> weapons), Brees (=> also defense) or Wilson (=> O-line), as QB with one ring. Great personal stats (and MVP titles), but only one ring, because his half billion dollar contract forbids a competitive enough roster.
You shouldn't be a analyst! Because 1 for some reason nobody but a few of us saw Belicheck sabotaging Tom during draft and not picking up good free agents during his last 2yrs there! Yeah, it made Tom look bad but he still willed them into the playoffs somehow! Shanahan is as woefully inequiped as his dad to be a head coach! In the 3 yrs since this broadcast ,you can now say the 49ers have fell on their faces because of 💩ty QB play! They could have made a Historic run of atleast 4 out 5 and possibly 5 Lombardi trophies. With I'd say a bare minimum of 2 or 3 if they had just pulled the trigger on picking up Brady! On top of everything purdy would have had a chance to sit under Brady and learn! I don't see how papa Shanahan is still allowed in the NFL because of what he did to Griffin the 3rd! Kyle isn't much more than an assistant or maybe medium skilled coordinator! My boy is teasing a comeback! Wouldn't that be awesome if he just jumped back in and picked up another ring or 2! Always thought he was aiming for 10! If it hadn't been for that horse faced wife of his working on his head. I think he would have got one more in Tampa. That last yrs he came back he wasn't Tom. That was about the time he figured out that she had another guy probably before they split. He was the most aggressive I've ever saw out of him! He was running down people trying to fight them. That wasn't Tom! He knew Tampa had let to many players leave for the cap. They thought Tom was done and were looking to rebuild. They still almost backdoored the playoffs! My boy is the goat! Will always be the goat! Baaaaa!
Jordan was already winning 50+ games without Pipen even being a starter, or without Phil Jackson. Jordan had not yet become a champion, but he was already being considered the best player in the world before winning a chip. He did that by his play and superiority on the court when compared to the other great players. Lebron’s system never lasts very long. He goes for a few years, that’s why he keeps short contracts so that he can get TF out once he knows he has used up enough of the teams future to win now, then go somewhere else to try again while that team he left fails. Jordan stuck it out, and stayed. Brady stuck it out and stayed until he was forced out by the coach. Bron abandons teams to ring chase, and yet still only has 4.
Nick Wright... when it comes to Tom Brady; you're Nick Wrong. I DO applaud you for owning your past statements and not trying the ever popular 'it was about the defense' walk back. I almost like you... almost.
If you love your Patrick so much why are you putting this unnecessary pressure on him.. Your compairing a 20 year something vs a 43 year something... It's like you are trying to find one little niche to say hes better then Brady. sit back and think about it... Even though Brady beat him in afc and the Super Bowl.. I know it's a team game.. but your the one's saying all this Comparison stuff OK if your that desperate to praise Patrick he has youth and scramblability stronger arm.... Brady's pinpoint accuracy is able to read defences perfect ball placement.. If you love the guy so much let him be himself....ps The funny thing is some of you are still going to doubt brady.. The New York guys it's inevitable ...the rest of the journalists a good amount will to... Maybe you need to take age out of the equation that way your not blinded by your decision process lol
Stick Wright, Brady had that title before he beat your chiefs again. Pat Mahomes or anyone will never catch him. How many games has Mahomes missed in his first 3 years? With that point, he isn't playing till he is 36 let alone 43. Brady has his own WING in hall of fame. Point is Belichick rode Brady's coat tails and the ride is over. Let's see how those press conference go now where Belichick treats reporters like trash when your sub .500 for a few years.
2-7 this year for the Patriots. People are finally noticing exactly as you said, that Belichick was riding Brady's Coat Tails. He's always had a losing record without Brady.
Nick Wright creating a category nobody ever wanted to be in. Up until lebron no star wanted to leave a winning team in their prime to play with other superstars. Brady was forced to leave. Lbj chose to. And no star has ever done that or wanted to. Also he glosses over lbj losing in the chips and his first year in LA
Nah he definitely has to win 8, Brady won 7, the ring argument is held against Lebron, mahomes gotta do some serious damage on the league the next 20 years to even have a chance
"4th place before he gets hurt and next year wins title" lmao stop he came back from the injury and was playing at full strength going really fast and dunkign the ball hard and wasn't hobbled at all by the injury and they proceeded to lose almost every game after his return despite him claiming "playoff mode is on" and then misses playoffs
Yeah but Manning got benched for Osweiler in that regular season, and pretty sure was only inserted as the starting QB for the SB because of his experience. A top 3 defense of all time absolutely won that entire post season and much of the regular season. Brady, who was a little more than 3 years older than Peyton was in his final season, threw for 4,600+ yards, 40TDs and 67% comp percentage throughout the regular season, and yes in the postseason the Bucs won as a complete team but they didn't need to absolutely carry Brady who threw for 3 TDs in the divisional game, NFC title game, and the SB. No hate towards Peyton he's the 2nd or 3rd best qb ever imo, but their SB wins with their 2nd teams were very, very, very different stories. I will give him credit tho for having the greatest QB season ever with 55 passing TDs, just couldn't win it all that year
He didn’t win in his first year that’s what makes this ring for Brady even more wild! No off-season.. beat Drew and Aaron in their own house and then made Patrick look like a rookie! Brady has been the goat since his SB win against Seattle lol
Phil Jackson has no system lol. His system was getting the greatest players of all time lol. What system. Same for belichick he benefited from best defensive and offensive players in NFL history
"They make 4 straght finals, he leaves they miss the playoffs" lol bruh way to leave out Wade and Bosh missing a combined 58+ games but following year when Wade and Bosh are healthy all year they make the 3rd seed and make it to ECSF and despite Bosh being injured they still came close to ECF and its hilarious cuz LeBron missing 17 games after getting them to 4th seed is apparently an excuse for you for them missing playoffs despite him coming back from injury and claiming "playoff mode is on" and then proceeding to lose almost every game lol
LeBron had to build super teams, he didn't do squat by himself...unlike Brady, Lebron couldn't win one on his drafted team until he came back after jumping from team to team.
wtf is he talking about why is Lebron even mentioned here. If you're going to compare a QB compare him to like Peyton Manning who won chips with 2 different teams...
Your MJ argument is wrong. MJ wins 3 with bulls goes to baseball bulls no championship. MJ back bulls win 3 championship. MJ is in the room you're clueless.
He was talking about the ability for that greatness to transfer over to another team when they are taken out of the system they already won in. MJ never won a championship with a different team.
@rickx86 sorry don't buy it. Just because MJ didn't jump teams like LeFlop doesn't mean anything. He didn't need to change teams. He average players and made them better.
What Nick said about Brady wanting to stay in New England and that is just not true. The pretend world Nick lives in is amazing. Kraft wanted Brady back that part is true and yes Brady grew up loving the Niners but honestly the rest is pure idiotic speculation.
There’s lots of credible reporting that Tom Brady wanted to stay in New England. Bill Belichick told him no. Stephen A reported that as well on espn. Tom Brady loved New England
this KC local blogger puts himself up there with Bill Belichick after being serially wrong on TB12?! he is more like a passenger on the short bus with rod parker
No one will ever surpass this man’s greatness who’s the godfather of goats,there will never be another Tom Brady
I love Tom Brady and the Patriots. I was sad and angry (at the Patriots) when Tom left. Now I'm happy he did. Even the most venom spitting Tom Brady haters are now... finally... in the same camp as everyone else. They can no longer deny what Tom Brady is. I felt the Patriots should have opened their check book and told Tom "Write whatever you want on it." and left the room. They would know Tom would only take what he thought was fair and ensure they had plenty of money for the rest of the team. He's always said, "I'll stop playing when I suck." And I believe him. If he felt he couldn't help the team anymore he'd walk and leave the rest of the money on the table. Tom Brady earned that. The vast majority of Pats fans would rather see the team struggle a bit at the end of his career than see him go to another team. Bill fucked up. He had the one player in history that you truly DON'T treat like every other player.
First time I have to praise Nick for excellent, thoughtful, researched takes Bravo!
Nick, you ate crow with style, excellent job!
HOW DARE YOU - even mention lebrun in the same breath as THE GOAT TOM BRADY!
Totally agree!!!!
Thank you
Definitely a point, y’all just mad and can’t actually refute what he’s saying because it’s all based on facts, explain to me how his analogy didn’t make sense?
@@bobbythomas6520 Name the times Brady walked out of the stadium with time left in the game simply cause his team was behind. BOOM 💥 NOW put your three masks back on & STFU the adults are talking snowflake
@@bobbythomas6520 Does LeBron have more rings than any other nba player ever? He doesn't even have as many as 15 other players let alone Jordan The GOAT who has every record not involved in just playing along time.
LeBron MAY have been in that room alone. But Brady walked in and kicked lebron out cause it's not even close anymore.
He never will be close. Brady is GOAT all positions. Bron is great, he is a freak of nature but doenst have the edge. He gets cold feet on finals
@@TheLordOfDogtown lol u definitely didn’t watch 2015-2018 finals
@@Destined4FourGreatness remind me again how many finals did Lebron has lost?
He was NOT Alone. Kawhi won with the Spurs system and then left and won with the Raptors
@@Destined4FourGreatness 2015 he shot below 40% FG, 2016 yes all time great, 2017 he was great but choked in game 3 (a winnable game), he then played terrible game 4 2018 and made a injured hand excuse prior to the game cuz he was gonna throw the game
As much as I think Nick is a complete and utter failure as a football analyst, I do like the way he owns up when he's wrong - unlike Kellerman who just keeps digging.
Exactly ...and Rob Parker, etc.
Kellerman owner it now!! Lol he didn’t have much choice
In fairness to Kellerman, I think it was his job to take an over-the-top, opposite perspective from Stephen A. It would have been a very boring show if he took a balanced view. At times, you can tell even he didn't believe what he was spewing.
He spent years putting Tom Brady down it took him yrs to admit TB is the greatest. I give him no credit nothing
@@jillshertill1598 he realized 3 Super Bowls too late
Mahomes had the most pressure in a Super Bowl. Brady had the second most. Anyone else see Mahomes face? Broken and defeated. Listen to Strahan on how Brady took being killed by the Giants front four. Also, Brady's last AFC championship against Manning. Listen to how Miller talks about Brady. Brady never got the cuddling and excuse making from the media despite handling the pressure meter.
Brady had way more pressure than any athlete in a championship game ever vs the Seahawks, and then arguably even more against the Falcons. Imagine if they lose vs the Seahawks weeks after Deflategate? EVERYONE would've been saying, "lol 0-3 in Super Bowls since caught for cheating" and he would've become the scapegoat instead of the goat. He would've become the most hated athlete of all time.
Then against the Falcons, had they lost as badly as it seemed they might when it was 28-3, the narrative would've been pretty similar "lol 1-3 in Super Bowls since caught for cheating and the only win was because the dumbass Seahawks didn't run and got completely smoked and exposed vs the Falcons".
He was playing with his entire legacy on the line, his entire career and everything he'd accomplished and put into the sport would've counted for nothing, he would've been universally despised by everyone outside of New England anyways.
For Mahomes to become the GOAT, he needs to win at least 10 SB rings. Winning even 8 won't be enough because TB has beaten him TWICE when it mattered the most on his way to winning 2 SBs. So yeah, 9 would start the debate, 10 to seal the deal. To even consider him the GOAT, he gotta win 8 more minimum. Good luck.
Which is impossible during our time no way to beat the 🐐 as goat
this is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever read lmao
@Destined4FourGreatness it's 100% true tho.
I'd argue that regardless of how many SB's Mahomes wins, he will always lose the debate. Brady beat him in the SB & AFC championship games...there's no coming back from that
Nah that’s silly 8 makes Mahomes the goat
a 40+ old QB have beaten prime and young Mahomes in 2 championship games, theres no way he will be considered goat by winning 3SBs or even 8.
Tom Brady he’s the greatest quarterback of all time you can talk all you want but that’s a fact just be happy you had a chance to see him in your lifetime
If you don't believe that a person needs more wins then Tom Brady......to be better then him.....then what the hell is the point of winning.....in the words of Ric Flair.......and I quote.....If you wanna be the man.....you gotta beat the man......
Tom Brady is a .... Great ATHLETE . FOOTWORK IN THE POCKET TO EVADE THE RUSH AND SACKS....ACCURACY IN THREADING THE NEEDLE TO WRs double covered....HIS ABILITY UNMATCHED FOR PUTTING THE RIGHT TOUCH ON THE BALL as the situation dictates...are all greatest ever. These are , of course, all physical athletic attributes...as is his very decent quick release time.
Brady almost certainly is the most intelligent athlete in sports history ( attended and graduated from the prestigious, demanding, world famous University of Michigan) , and his ability to read defenses combined with his leadership, discipline, hard work ethic etc.are, of course, cerebral attributes .
It is when you combine Brady's great athleticism ( the guy was drafted by both major league baseball and THE NFL , for cripe sakes !) , with his IQ and other cerebral attributes you arrive at the very reason " WHY "Thomas Edward Patrick Brady is the B.O.A.T; i.e. best of all time and the greatest player in NFL history regardless of position.
As for : Bill Russell, Wilt. Gretzky. Howe . Cy Young . Babe Ruth . Michael Jordan . etc. They all play in sports that are best of 7 throughout the playoffs whereas every single game of the NFL playoffs is single elimination folks!!!!!!!!
Finally, there is this to condider: Sure,jealous hateful Brady haters. Tom Brady may not beat LeBron, MJ, etc.,in a " foot race" which is such a silly, stupid, foolish statement , but then none of them can throw a football as far AND as accurately as this truly GREAT ATHLETE, Tom Brady.
THERE is only one ( 1) athlete in major league team sports of ANY KIND that won a regular season MVP AWARD while in their 40s ... and it's no accident that the athlete who stands alone in this department is: Tom Brady.
To judge any athlete's true greatness the playoffs stats and wins, of course,do matter and should be weighted heavily. However, every athlete's career is over 90 percent ...or WAY MORE ...in the regular season which must always ALWAYS... ALWAYS... be paramount and be deemed far more significant and important for obvious reasons. Marino , Charles Barkley , Fran Tarkington, and so many hall of famers who never won any title did not have Scottie Pippin, Lou Geherg, etc. on the team to make a championship possible. They are still duly recognized as all time greats .
What makes Brady's sustained greatness so awesome is that he owns seemingly countless salient regular season career regular season records for a QB AND ALSO owns virtually every single salient QB record for the playoffs. Combined...He is preeminent in the history of sports .
The only athlete ever who is not in Brady's rear view mirror for excellence and exceptionalism is .....Secretariat.
Case closed ....enjoy him while you still can ALL sports fans . Tom Brady, the honest , honorable , humble, genius leader is no longer merely "legendary " he is a sports IMMORTAL. Case closed forever.
How soon we forget, Nick! Before LeBron and Brady there was the Bambino: 714 home runs, .342 lifetime batting average, 7 World Series championships and a 2.28 ERA in 6 years as a pitcher with the Boston Red Sox.
Don't forget The Babe! Three rings with Red Sox as the best hitter AND pitcher on the team. Gets traded. They don't win again for 86 years. His new team, he wins four rings and they are recognized as the greatest baseball franchise and the 1920s versions are recognized as the greatest baseball team ever. GOAT.
Great point .
Yes the Babe was awesome! But you still have seven and done versus one and done! There are also four seven and done in all sports except NASCAR! The NFL is the premier sport! What sport has the pounding you get from the NFL! TB has been hit so damn hard and so many times and by men so much larger and physically stronger than he is and was! Yet they attack his physic and his total athleticism! You tell me how outa shape he is that he is 45 and still at the level he is! He is 45 and a pick to win the Superbowl again! TB is the greatest athlete of all time bar none! Mind and body and spirit nobody touches him! Throw in how everyone loves him that is with him. Throw in how many a man should emulate him as the Father he is! He is one hell of a man both on the field and off the field!!! He is the one and only G.O.A.T of all time and of everyone!!!!!
kareem won 71 high school games in a row, went to ucla and won 3 ncaa championships in a row, went to the bucks and won a ring, left, went to the lakers and won 5 more
45ers could have gotten Tom Brady twice. Once in 2000 and once in 2020.
Uttering those words must have tasted like vinegar coming out of Nicks mouth
exactly 🤣
He went to the worst team in NFL history and won the freakin superbowl year 1,still astounding
That team was a Super Team waiting for a QB don’t forget that
One of* don’t forget the lions browns bengals
@@nwiko Still needed Gronk and AB. Without Gronk or AB that team was still not close! To get Gronk and AB you have to have TOM Brady!!!
@@nwikomao.., they been waiting since 2007….
That team haven’t make the playoff and constantly in the bottom of the division .
This expert Nicky gonna lie and tell everyone they are SB team. Before Tom Brady get there nobody predict the Bucs win shit…
@@lawrencescotthoneycutt9923don’t reply to that hater…. Nobody in the NFL think the Bucs is a SB team before TB get there.
Every team TB on is always SB Contender…
I like Nick beacause he is not afraid to laugh at himself when he gets things wrong.
Bill deserves to pay THAT bar tab..
The Nick Wright 'Crow a la Brady' chosen 'Dish of the Year' with five Michelin stars 🥘👌⭐
While we are on the subject of comparing LBJ with TB, the room they share might look the same, but TB's room is definitely bigger. TB won the SB the 1st year he joined the Bucs. LBJ never won the title the 1st year he joined a team. TB recruited people to join him. LBJ made the team pay a ransom to get people to join him. Star players who join TB like him. Not everyone LBJ recruits have had nice things to say about him. And we aren't even in the topic of actual success which is 7-4 if anyone else is counting. But agree, unlike MJ, TB and LBJ have found success where ever they went. It is hard to say MJ would have, but he was just in an era where you don't move around a lot. So you cant prove he would have done the same.
Only teammate to ever say something negative about LBJ was kyrie. And tbh I’m not even sure that’s true. All of lebron star teammates like dwade, Chris Bosh, AD, and Kevin love all love bron💯
IT'S ABOUT THE RINGS, HE DOES NEED 8 TO BE THE NEW GOAT. JORDAN AND KOBE SAID IT BEST....IM PLAYING FOR CHAMPIONSHIPS NOTHING ELSE. EVERY PLAYER GET STATS.
Patrick Mahomes amazing quarterback but he absolutely has to win at least seven championships Championship matter
Lol Patrick mahomes cant replicate what brady have achieved and this is the fact like tom brady have studied football so well that he knows each team's and it weakness
That still will not be enough . Why? Because all qbs like mahomes and even those who come after him like Lawrence, will have the benefit of padded stats due to the NFL greedily adding a 17th extra game to the annual schedules.
Stir in the fact, that Mahomey will never ever be able to live down this truth ....that an ancient well past his prime qb in his 40s old enough almost to be Mahomey's DAD.... still beat an in his prime 20s something Mahomey and a KC team chuck full of pro bowl all stars AT LEAST TWICE ,including on...Mahomey's own home field!!! Ouch but true.
Tammy Newton, Russell Wilson,Watson, Mahomey....all were supposed to be the " next best thing ever " recall .However , they ...and even Aaron Rogers,Brees. and Peyton Manning all fine hall of fame players all lived in the shadow of Tom Brady's.....rear view mirror. Now it is the overrated, overpaid, fragile injury prone Mahomey who was humiliated and the latest to eat Brady's dust. Ouch but true. Case closed forever.
I'd like to see Mahomes come back from 25 down in the SB.
@@pheynx7573 So would every qb who ever played. Only 1 did it. Brady is the name . Case closed.
Not only that he needs to be bale to put up the stats only 1 year minus the year he had to sit out 4 games hes thrown for atleast 4k and thats including his "terrible" 2019 year where he had 4k 28tds but that was apparently a down year
About time the man makes sense.
LeBron don't count he brought rings he didn't go through the struggle he ring chased
Unless Mahomes learns how to read defenses at least on an acceptable level, He will win maybe 1 or 2 more. SB. So far Pat is a passing qb with running back/Lamar Jackson/Cam Newton mentality, Pat's tremendous throwing talent let him win 1 SB, but can't help him in playoffs against Brady.
Exactly
You mean “Patrick”, if you call him Pat, his mummy will slap you lol
@@danabosley8698 hahaha
People seem to forget Lebron plays in places, makes a bunch of moves and when he leaves they miss the playoffs because of the moves he wanted. That Lakers team is so much more different from when he got there.
LJ can’t be compared to Brady...... has Brady quit on his teams ever ? Has Brady mentioned even once he’s the goat ? Has Brady every talked about politics and destroyed rating ? Is Brady a diva like LJ ? Has Brady ever complained about lack of talent ? Has Brady ever sat in front of his peers and proclaimed he’s the Goat....... so again LJ isn’t even in the same league. Don’t get me wrong LJ is a freak of an athlete gifted how ever more about his brand than the absolute love of the game.... Remember Cal Ripken JR, MJ, Bird, Sugar Ray Lenard, Pele (spelling soccer player) Terry O’reilly, and many others it wasn’t about brand only the love of the game. LJ in basketballs may be 7th all time because the legions I know never quit on there teams.
His brand is his money 💰all them would be doing the same thing if they could
You may be surprised some simply play for the love of the game..... LJ is a diva plain and simple
@imadepooh what the hell are you talking about... don't make shit up to make your self feel right smh
Wow, Nick somehow managed to put lebron and brady on same level wow just cant help but laugh at him.
Tom Brady is the " Last Son of Krypton."
No Tom is not the greatest athlete of all times but he is the greatest leader, the greatest QB and the greatest player with the most confidence in his ability.
What is an athelete? Part of that make-up is emotional, intellect, and cofidence. Brady is the GOAT!
@@kingsman8475 He himself admits that he isn't a great athlete, he has always made that claim, and that's why he says, "fortunately for me,
that's not what being a quarterback is either".
Outside of the Lebron reference because he is just chasing rings, l agree with Nick Right here for the first time.
The NBA is easy compared to the NFL in regards to winning championships.
Exactly right. There is no 2nd 3rd and 4th chances in the NFL when it comes playoff time so to make it through and win one SB is far more difficult than a Finals in NBA. Shaq and Barkley even admitted this on their show because in football every playoff game is a game 7 no do overs, no let’s go back to the drawing board and make adjustments for when we play them tomorrow.
Great segment 👏
Of course after the chiefs lose he completely switches his mind on Brady and what he was capable of 😂
Holy Shit Nice!!! Ty Nick!
TB12 has more superbowl wins than any other TEAM in the NFL and more Superbowl appearances than all but one team... The Patriots
We’re gonna act like Lebron doesn t have a losing record in finals and got swept twice?
TB12 took step further compare to Lebron when he join lakers didn’t won the titleTB12 does and It’s 7th ringsssssss.
I wouldn't follow Nick Wrong out of a house fire even if he was standing at an exit...
When brady o line couldnt stop strahan and company it was Bradys fault... but when kc cant protect mahomes it isnt mahomes fault
How many times did lebron give up on his team
If he has 2 superbowls he is on his heels 😭😭
Look at that, this same guy, before, said that Brady was old, and was going to loose the súper bowl.
He!! Hear him now.
He loves his own Voice
Thanks Capt. Obvious!!
The problem wasn't toms skills it was the lack of talent around him. Look at the list of receivers he's had during his career. Only two Randy Moss and gronk and the record speaks for its self. No other QB. In the history of the league has done more with less. That is on bill for not drafting talent around HIM.
Why does Nick feel the need to repeat the same information over and over. Just say your point once and we get it.
The difference between LeBron and Brady is LeBron actually has named Superstars playing with him when Brady is in a Class by Himself or a team by yourself with no Superstars every year they have no superstars in offense look at up there's no debating nobody is better than Brady in any sport
I kept relatively quiet when 'winningest' started getting used... 'losingest' is too much.... Stop making up words... We already have a language.... Learn it.....Use it......
First I'd recommend for you to go buy a dictionary. Secondly language are created by people and a lot of new words have been added as well. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean it didn't exist 😅😅
@@AlongLegend This is none of those things... It is laziness or incompetence masquerading as a rationale evolution of language...
Losingest.... ... Leave the vowels alone too while we are on the topic!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@Nick-mb7wc Again go buy an actual Oxford dictionary 😅😅
Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr is the greatest ATHLETE EVER! Period.
Why wasn’t it Dennis Rodman the winning follows him more so than it does Lebron
its all about the RINGS!
Henri " pocket rocket " Richard won 11 titles as a player in hockey. Nick you forgot the hockey guys.
Justin tucker 66 yards should be in the conversation
No bro don’t ever compare lebron to Brady ever again lebron is not even close to Brady
Im just wandering whats nicks saying when he used the words "they are the system" if his reffering to system as winning then babe ruth, michael phelps and hussain bolts should and must be in that room his talking otherwise he's right to say that lbl was the only one in that room cuz TB12, MJ, THE BABE, MICHAEL PHELPS and HUSSAIN BOLTS are on the VIP ROOM
You can’t have a system with one part. Therefore, you can throw out Phelps and Bolt. Being a one man show in an individual sport doesn’t make you a system. Lol
The culture.... is actually damn good 😊
Technically peyton manning did it also. Not even a manning fan. He did it on another team. Whether they carried him or not. He was top of a lot of statistical categories. Brady fan all the way though
Peyton although great qb doesn't belong in conversation with Brady, nobody does.
@@petersydow4002 I agree. I was just saying peyton did what lebron and Tom did. Win on another team
@@petersydow4002 nick was saying no one else did it
@@artovereverything8754 Yes both Peyton and LeBron did It! However nobody left a playoff team ( which immediately became a losing team) and won in a first year. Also Peyton was a shade of himself and maybe 30 percent responsible for the win which was a good playoff team before manning joined them.In contrast Brady completely changed a culture of a long losing team in 1 year, beat scoring offense record ( the only team ever to score minimum 30 points on 4 straight playoff games) So despite defense playing superbly in SB ,I give Tom 70 percent responsibility for win.Le bron went to winning teams with the exception of 2nd time Cleveland which had excellent roster the year he came back. Peyton and James together have less titles than Tom (So are all the football teams in league history, which is even more insane).So in 19 years of playing Tom achieved more than any team,which some of those teams exist 100 years.!
He played him twice in the playoffs as the underdog and won both times?
There is" another Skywalker" his name is Jack Monahan Brady.
LeBron James abandoned Cleveland for greener pastures where he knew his best chance of winning a championship was teaming Up with Bosch & Wade. Then, after winning a couple of rings, he returns to Cleveland, wins a ring, and then he abandons them for greener pastures in LA. James is NOT "The System," he chases after "the system!"
By now Mahomes feels the constraints of the cap space (stacked offense, but godawful defense), and the league has adapted to his style, and he is unwilling to adapt on his part. By now he might rather join Rodgers (=> weapons), Brees (=> also defense) or Wilson (=> O-line), as QB with one ring. Great personal stats (and MVP titles), but only one ring, because his half billion dollar contract forbids a competitive enough roster.
You shouldn't be a analyst! Because 1 for some reason nobody but a few of us saw Belicheck sabotaging Tom during draft and not picking up good free agents during his last 2yrs there! Yeah, it made Tom look bad but he still willed them into the playoffs somehow! Shanahan is as woefully inequiped as his dad to be a head coach! In the 3 yrs since this broadcast ,you can now say the 49ers have fell on their faces because of 💩ty QB play! They could have made a Historic run of atleast 4 out 5 and possibly 5 Lombardi trophies. With I'd say a bare minimum of 2 or 3 if they had just pulled the trigger on picking up Brady! On top of everything purdy would have had a chance to sit under Brady and learn! I don't see how papa Shanahan is still allowed in the NFL because of what he did to Griffin the 3rd! Kyle isn't much more than an assistant or maybe medium skilled coordinator! My boy is teasing a comeback! Wouldn't that be awesome if he just jumped back in and picked up another ring or 2! Always thought he was aiming for 10! If it hadn't been for that horse faced wife of his working on his head. I think he would have got one more in Tampa. That last yrs he came back he wasn't Tom. That was about the time he figured out that she had another guy probably before they split. He was the most aggressive I've ever saw out of him! He was running down people trying to fight them. That wasn't Tom! He knew Tampa had let to many players leave for the cap. They thought Tom was done and were looking to rebuild. They still almost backdoored the playoffs! My boy is the goat! Will always be the goat! Baaaaa!
Jordan was already winning 50+ games without Pipen even being a starter, or without Phil Jackson.
Jordan had not yet become a champion, but he was already being considered the best player in the world before winning a chip. He did that by his play and superiority on the court when compared to the other great players.
Lebron’s system never lasts very long. He goes for a few years, that’s why he keeps short contracts so that he can get TF out once he knows he has used up enough of the teams future to win now, then go somewhere else to try again while that team he left fails.
Jordan stuck it out, and stayed. Brady stuck it out and stayed until he was forced out by the coach. Bron abandons teams to ring chase, and yet still only has 4.
Nick Wright... when it comes to Tom Brady; you're Nick Wrong. I DO applaud you for owning your past statements and not trying the ever popular 'it was about the defense' walk back. I almost like you... almost.
If you love your Patrick so much why are you putting this unnecessary pressure on him.. Your compairing a 20 year something vs a 43 year something... It's like you are trying to find one little niche to say hes better then Brady. sit back and think about it... Even though Brady beat him in afc and the Super Bowl.. I know it's a team game.. but your the one's saying all this Comparison stuff OK if your that desperate to praise Patrick he has youth and scramblability stronger arm.... Brady's pinpoint accuracy is able to read defences perfect ball placement.. If you love the guy so much let him be himself....ps The funny thing is some of you are still going to doubt brady.. The New York guys it's inevitable ...the rest of the journalists a good amount will to... Maybe you need to take age out of the equation that way your not blinded by your decision process lol
Wilt Chamberlain
Lol nick just can’t help himself without mentioning his boo lebron when it’s about football
Stick Wright, Brady had that title before he beat your chiefs again. Pat Mahomes or anyone will never catch him. How many games has Mahomes missed in his first 3 years? With that point, he isn't playing till he is 36 let alone 43. Brady has his own WING in hall of fame. Point is Belichick rode Brady's coat tails and the ride is over. Let's see how those press conference go now where Belichick treats reporters like trash when your sub .500 for a few years.
2-7 this year for the Patriots. People are finally noticing exactly as you said, that Belichick was riding Brady's Coat Tails. He's always had a losing record without Brady.
So y can't they make a movie 🎥 of him 🤔
Nick Wright creating a category nobody ever wanted to be in. Up until lebron no star wanted to leave a winning team in their prime to play with other superstars. Brady was forced to leave. Lbj chose to. And no star has ever done that or wanted to.
Also he glosses over lbj losing in the chips and his first year in LA
Dallas Cowboys should have made an offer to Brady when he left Tampa Bay. Save him for the last 4 games.
And if you take out the penalty that won KC a SB....
Jesus.. why do people still try to bring crybaby lebron into the conversation.. Brady and MJ are only guys to compare even when you shouldn’t..
Labron ?
You kidding me... you cannot compare a 7 game series to a win or go home system
I wonder if he still think Lebron is all that after this failure season😂 how that Westbrook trade work bro😂😂
Nah he definitely has to win 8, Brady won 7, the ring argument is held against Lebron, mahomes gotta do some serious damage on the league the next 20 years to even have a chance
Nick wright comparing lebum to Brady?! Clown 🤡
Lol I'm not gonna lie tho wish that bum played for us
"4th place before he gets hurt and next year wins title" lmao stop he came back from the injury and was playing at full strength going really fast and dunkign the ball hard and wasn't hobbled at all by the injury and they proceeded to lose almost every game after his return despite him claiming "playoff mode is on" and then misses playoffs
Lol how do you compare a guy that’s sub 500 in the finals to a guy that’s 70% in the finals ... stop deep throating bron nick
It's not the same since Brady retired, 2025 a week away. Could he just come back for a month and turn the world and Nick upside down one more time.
Nick Wrong finally Wright
LeChoke James is in that room but just to bring Brady his drink or clean towels.
The whole point of football is to win the super bowl. Brady is the best ever nuff said
Nick "Nostradamus" Wright...
"Extra agita" - that to me was a high point for sports commentary; sorry, I'm a nerd.
If the officials called travel in the NBA, Lebron would lose half his points
you could add in Peyton Manning - he went to 2 Super Bowls and won one with the Broncos.
Yeah but Manning got benched for Osweiler in that regular season, and pretty sure was only inserted as the starting QB for the SB because of his experience. A top 3 defense of all time absolutely won that entire post season and much of the regular season. Brady, who was a little more than 3 years older than Peyton was in his final season, threw for 4,600+ yards, 40TDs and 67% comp percentage throughout the regular season, and yes in the postseason the Bucs won as a complete team but they didn't need to absolutely carry Brady who threw for 3 TDs in the divisional game, NFC title game, and the SB. No hate towards Peyton he's the 2nd or 3rd best qb ever imo, but their SB wins with their 2nd teams were very, very, very different stories. I will give him credit tho for having the greatest QB season ever with 55 passing TDs, just couldn't win it all that year
He didn’t win in his first year that’s what makes this ring for Brady even more wild! No off-season.. beat Drew and Aaron in their own house and then made Patrick look like a rookie! Brady has been the goat since his SB win against Seattle lol
Peyton didn’t win that game. The defense did. Peyton just managed to survive it.
How about Peyton Manning?
Phil Jackson has no system lol. His system was getting the greatest players of all time lol. What system. Same for belichick he benefited from best defensive and offensive players in NFL history
Name five NFL Hall of Fame players from the Patriots that played in the Belichick Brady era?
"They make 4 straght finals, he leaves they miss the playoffs" lol bruh way to leave out Wade and Bosh missing a combined 58+ games but following year when Wade and Bosh are healthy all year they make the 3rd seed and make it to ECSF and despite Bosh being injured they still came close to ECF and its hilarious cuz LeBron missing 17 games after getting them to 4th seed is apparently an excuse for you for them missing playoffs despite him coming back from injury and claiming "playoff mode is on" and then proceeding to lose almost every game lol
LeBron had to build super teams, he didn't do squat by himself...unlike Brady, Lebron couldn't win one on his drafted team until he came back after jumping from team to team.
wtf is he talking about why is Lebron even mentioned here. If you're going to compare a QB compare him to like Peyton Manning who won chips with 2 different teams...
Your MJ argument is wrong. MJ wins 3 with bulls goes to baseball bulls no championship. MJ back bulls win 3 championship. MJ is in the room you're clueless.
He was talking about the ability for that greatness to transfer over to another team when they are taken out of the system they already won in. MJ never won a championship with a different team.
@rickx86 sorry don't buy it. Just because MJ didn't jump teams like LeFlop doesn't mean anything. He didn't need to change teams. He average players and made them better.
What Nick said about Brady wanting to stay in New England and that is just not true. The pretend world Nick lives in is amazing. Kraft wanted Brady back that part is true and yes Brady grew up loving the Niners but honestly the rest is pure idiotic speculation.
There’s lots of credible reporting that Tom Brady wanted to stay in New England. Bill Belichick told him no. Stephen A reported that as well on espn. Tom Brady loved New England
this KC local blogger puts himself up there with Bill Belichick after being serially wrong on TB12?! he is more like a passenger on the short bus with rod parker
Brady is the truth who is L James lol
What about Payton Manning? I think he's in the conversation if you're including LeBron on the basis of winning with more than franchise.
Lebron has the system. Form super team and win. Brady only once had really nice team.