I went on an interview years ago and didn't get the job. When I called to ask why, I was told because I was an hour late for my interview. I politely interjected and said I was 30 minutes early. The person who had interviewed me was an hour late. I suggested they check their log in sheet for the day I was there early. To my surprise they called me back a few days later, apologized for the mix up and asked me to come in for a second interview. I declined, as in my eyes this shows how disorganized they are. Or the person interviewing me didn't care for me personally. Either way I had no desire to work for someone like that.
Sounds like the person who interviewed you lied to cover their own ass. Praise be. What a *blessing* for them to lay bare a corporate culture of ass-covering and finger-pointing. I would literally never want to work for any company I know was like that, those environments are so incredibly toxic.
@@tamikaskinner2264 Its true! Go in with a polite smiling "eff you" attitude. They want you to beg and they expect you to work as if you're an owner. They look at your salary, break it down to hourly and want much more than 40 hours out of you.
I'n afraid I have been to interviews where they had already decided on an internal candidate and I was just there so they could say they had sought internal and external candidates even though they had no intention of hiring any external candidate before I ever even walked in the door.
Been there many times. But my experience is where all of the candidates were internal, but the fact was that they already had someone in mind before the job was ever posted.
My wife went to an interview 45 minutes away. The staffing agency that she was representing sent a total of TWELVE candidates over to be interviewed. The company went with an internal candidate instead, and everyone from the agency was rightly pissed. Who the hell interviews that many people period, much less if they already know the person they want? When I've interviewed people (face to face), it's after I've combed through a few dozen resumes and had 5-10 phone interviews, so the person arriving for the interview is basically in a position of "Don't screw up and you'll land the job" even if they don't know this. I don't have time or inclination to personally interview a ton of people face to face, nor do I want to waste their time.
In my experience many hr and interviewers do not have enough knowledge of the work to be performed to select the proper person to do the work. Many selections are made based on interview performance (acting/bs ability) rather than actual job skills.
This is definitely the #1 issue with the hiring process. This and requiring candidates to go through multiple rounds of interviews, especially if it's for a non-executive role. Like, anything over 3 is ridiculous.
@@nissan_skyline I had a former coworker where she and I were both interviewing for jobs at the same time so would share our various news. She went through three separate interviews for what was basically an Executive Assistant position (she had a more senior role at our current company so this would have been a step down) where they just loved to talk about the various personality tests for "culture fit". At one point, they asked her if she had any questions and she brought up that at some point in this process, they should begin to discuss compensation expectations, and apparently that offended them so they elected not to continue further. After THREE interviews. Some people are just too terrified to make the call on a candidate by themselves so they require the inputs of a dozen people or so. It's ridiculous. Second opinion is good. Third opinion (and interview) you're reaching a bit. Anything more is just an absolute waste of time.
Those jerks don't even care what you have on your resume. They decide based on HOW they feel about you. Just don't take it personally as we live in a biased world.
100 per cent of the reason why you weren't chosen is because they either didn't like you or liked another candidate better than you. That's it in a nutshell. What an employer is looking for is a direct reflection of themselves this is why some companies make poor hiring decisions over and over again. If you work for a great company or a crappy one remember you are a direct reflection of that company.
Why not? If they wanted someone internally from the start, they would just promote that person into the role they're looking to fill as opposed to advertising for the role. They may give preferential treatment to internal candidates, but that doesn't mean they're always going to hire them if someone better comes along that doesn't already work for them.
Depending on your country, I think by law they have to advertise externally. Even if in practice they have no intention of hiring externally, they have to be seen to have attempted to.
Im glad you mentioned internal candidates. About 95% of the time, especially as you move up the line or if you were extremely qualified and didnt even get an interview or callback, this is the true reason.
Might not read this but wanted to say thanks. Needed to find a job in under a month and did so with your help and tips. My new job gave me WFH options and a 17k raise. Keep doing what you’re doing :)
I have been job hunting for the last 9 months, and there is very little feedback with regard as to "why" when you aren't selected. Being a mature graduate with prior work experience trying to break into a new field is exceedingly difficult and becoming futile. Applying to entry level roles the most common feedback I get, when I do get any form of feedback, is almost always that someone with more direct experience got the role. You get trapped in the paradox of needing prior experience to get the role, though you need a role to get experience. That's all else being equal and despite being qualified and having certifications. Employers are very risk averse and experience always wins out.
The 'ol catch 22. That's why I have a degree in one line of work and work in a totally different line of work. I could never get the job in the first place to ever get any experience. Don't mortgage your future for some damn college degree that will never get you where you want to be.
This is why practice with others is important. The feedback provided by recruiters and HR is almost always a lie. Why? Once they have told the candidate they are not selected the desire to get you off the phone is greater than their desire to help. Oh sure, some good recruiter do want to help but they almost never have gotten constructive feedback from the decision makers valuable enough to relay to the candidate. Instead repeating a common answer that is effective enough to end the conversation is relayed instead.
@@cward1954 I have a Master's degree and graduated at the top of my class with a 3.94 GPA. I was never able to get a job in that field due to having a speech impediment. I cringe now thinking about all of the time and money I wasted getting my degrees.
Recruiters or managers can’t really give you feedback simply because there isn’t any feedback to give you because 90% of the time the reason they didn’t hire you has nothing to do with your skills or how you presented yourself in the interview.
For me I learned not to take it so personally! Most of the time hiring managers hire based on what they think is a good fit versus the actual value or skill sets one may bring to the table. One of my supervisors prioritizes people who is more social and willing to shop and play games with her! Very irrational 🙄 but that’s the reality!
I totally agree. Many reasons are also due to biases of whoever is hiring. Also the may fear for their job and will not want to hire anyone who might be a threat (skills wise)
I agree, though sometimes it is in fact, personal. Keep in mind that this is based on the premise that the employer knows what they are doing and they are ethical and professional. That's not always the case.
I'm a very social person (the pandemic has changed tht of me a bit) but as one who interviewed folks in a few different industries I never gave preference to social ppl!! Often I would tell candidates to please do not be offended for once the questions begin I will not look at them b c I'm taking detailed notes...I don't want outside appearances to color my decisions...I found long lasting successful employees that way
they know when they see you the interview is just something they have to do. once they shake your hand look at your face they already made their decision
In my experience, it’s the small enterprise that have the balls to pay me at proper market price. Large corporations are the ones that will do subtle tricks to lowball me. They know I have the skills but they don’t want to spend the money. And that’s why I have more respect for small enterprise.
Resumes and job interviews are like dating profiles. 1) 90 percent of people who are successful lied to get accepted, and didn't present their true self. An employer is like a date. They have summed you up in the first five minutes, and if they don't like you, your papers are stamped, and there is nothing you can do or say to rectify the situation. They will reject you because they don't like you.
In my career in HR, I did see some of what you say. However, as someone who has hired hundreds of people, I can also tell you that we get pretty good at sniffing out liars. You are taking a huge risk in being dishonest because if you lie to me you won't get hired: ever. As far as the five minute thing, the only time I made a quick judgement was looking at resumes and application forms. If you can't communicate clearly and in an organized fashion, I'm not looking at it more than 30 seconds.
It's been my experience that hiring managers don't even read the resume. Someone that is "job hopping" or someone that doesn't stay at a job for any reasonable amount of time, will have better interviewing skills. Companies want someone who can do the most for the company and pay the least on the salary. And I have seen many times where a candidate has NONE of the listed qualifications, but they get the job because they are related to someone else who already works for the company. It's not that there is a shortage of qualified workers to fill jobs out there, it's because of the nonsense that interviewers and recruiters focus on when hiring new people to fill jobs. You can agree or disagree, it's up to you.
Wow! For any position where I have worked with the hiring manager (as a part of the team), they have read and usually analyzed the resume as they are too busy to waste their time interviewing while the department is short staffed.
The "more closely related industry" issue has been hitting me hard these past few months. I realized that I wanted to go from the product design side of Mechanical Engineering to the architectural engineering side, and it's just been a nightmare. They never teach you in school that you better pray that your first job out of school is in the industry you want to spend the rest of your career in.
@@MartinRomero true, but most engineering companies are in one field or another. I've personally never seen an engineering firm that did both product design and MEP/HVAC engineering
The purpose of the CV or resume is to get you an interview. Make sure you have keywords from the job description on it. Before an interview, learn some NLP skills and say things such as ‘In this role I will do X, Y and Z’. Show interest, if in doubt ask Them questions about the role, team etc. Treat an interview as a discussion, you are interviewing the company too.
So... basically rewrite your CV for every job application? You know, many of the required skills are hierarchical, which means that a required one is a prerequisite for another, that's already on the CV. Ergo, the candidate has way more value because it also brings to the table skills that are above the job posting. You might say "yeah, but he's overqualified" and you'd be correct. However, the experience the candidate comes with, it translates well into speed and efficiency. Example: Two candidates that have "SAP" on their CV are placed at the same level, although one of them has worked as a key user in automotive and the other was just inputting billing data. Massive gap between their skills, yet they are placed at the same level. Why? Because of the poor understanding of the job on the recruiter's side. TLDR: HR would be ten times more efficient if they'd find niches and thoroughly prepare before interviews.
Some time ago I applied for a position in which I was already running in the company as contractor. I know that I was the right person with experience , both in that company and in others of the same level. At the end of the day they rejected me and gave the position to a person with ZERO experience (they never said why, I just guest is due to salary expectation and this is a big company so they can pay). I resigned and went to another company. Months later they posted the same position again and called me to apply it since the selected person could not meet the standards required for the position. I told them: "you already had a qualified person with the experience for that position, if before you couldn't pay what I'm worth, much less now"😎 A lot of company just want the best and cheaper employee!!
Had a recent interview. I'd been told by the hiring manager that they wanted someone who will stay a long time - longevity. I'm 61. I figured they assume I'd leave soon to retire. Ageism?? Also, they ended up taking someone internally. I was not happy. My first interview of that day was with the hiring manager. It was obvious she was just going through the motions and had already made up her mind when she refused to take information I brought for her that detailed out my leadership capability From Gallup. I am a certified Gallup Strength Coach. She called this information JUST "A personality Test" and was unresponsive when I tried to explain how this is not the case. I was not happy having had my time wasted.
I have Been "PASSED OVER" for other candidates too many times to count. With content from channels like this one, I expect that I should have this problem a little going-forward.
As a director, I was making 195k. When I'm asked for my compensation needs and I say anything near that number, I think I've killed any chance I have of getting an offer.
Here are the real reasons you didn't get hired: Reason #1. Your great resume listing your fantastic qualifications and experience got buried under 1,000 resumes from unqualified, inexperienced candidates. Reason #2. The guy who got hired plays golf with the hiring manager every weekend. Reason #3. Your resume is so impressive that the hiring manager is scared you will take his job if he hires you. Reason #4. Implicit bias. Managers tend to hire people who are just like them (race, religion, age, etc.) because that is who they feel most comfortable around and can easily connect with.
I recently went to an interview and the interviewer was all over the place and clearly stated the traits her employees had, which were into music and into art. I am clearly the opposite from that, so of course I got rejected, and I was wondering if it was because I didn’t fit her profile.
Thanks for the tidbit on positioning yourself as the best person to solve a problem for the company. This info is gold. As for why they didn’t hire you, these reasons all assume the interviewer is confident and professional. I’ve seen people passed over by insecure or unprofessional managers, intimidated by a candidate who “over educated,” worked for a Fortune 500 company, was seen as overly buttoned up and professional rather than one of the boys/girls. Unfortunately many of us were passed up due to snap judgements and inaccurate assumptions made by HR or a hiring manager. A recruiter once told me in confidence that I was passed on bc one (of 5) interviewers noticed my wedding band and assumed my age to be early 30’s. The last person quit after maternity leave and she feared I was planning a family soon. Sure, ten years later.
I was an internal employee, had the skills and had managers backing me. Still got rejected for someone who worked there before but quit for another job. Sometimes the hiring managers just make bone headed decisions.
My brother prepared for an interview, for a week, the day of, they cancelled it and someone in HR told him, you can't expect to move to corporate at his current level, you need to 'know someone.' How defeating?! I work in HR at my company and would NEVER say that to an internal or external candidate, period. Also, it's unprofessional to cancel an interview the day of, out of courtesy, they should interview someone, because you never know if the other candidate will actually work out.
I don't need to be a team player, all I want is for the supervisor to tell me what machine. part,or operation which needs to be run. I am a CNC machine operator. I hate employers advertising a certain hourly rate then when and/if you get a in person interview the hourly rate is over less than they have advertised rate.. I can run almost any CNC controlled lathe or mill. Most HR people do not care what you can do but get you in the door at the very minimum wage which is the federal or state minimum wage. Most companies do not care about you but want you to be 100% commuted to them which is total bullshit to me..
Sometime it's just bad luck. Even if you do everything perfectly your odds are still probably just 1/3. It's like going on an internet date. There could be all manner of things going on in the background that prevent you from getting another date with her that don't involve you screwing up. Maybe they are still involved with another relationship/internal candidate. Maybe they aren't really ready for a relationship/don't have the budget for a permanent hire. That doesn't mean you should get discouraged. Just keep going till you find the right one.
These are good reasons, though in a specific situation you usually can't know. Employers usually won't tell you--liability issues are in play--and after getting turned down, I just want to move on and not dig into questions like who got hired and why. A true story about internal candidates. For a job I applied to a few years ago, there was a (sort of) internal candidate who was earmarked for the position, and the external posting was little more than a formality. Of course I didn't know this, so I applied, not realizing that I was doomed from the start. HOWEVER, after the internal candidate was given an offer, he and the manager had an interpersonal conflict which led to the offer being rescinded and the company moving to external candidates. It was several months after I applied, and I assumed I was long out of the running. I ended up going through the interview process and getting an offer. I guess my point is that, while what Brian says appears to be true in general, there are also going to be unusual circumstances, which might work for or against you in the job process.
Two years ago, I was called by a recruiter for an opportunity as an external candidate. The HR rep was extremely pleased with my background and very happy with the phone screen. And kept me in the loop on progress....until....I had the phone screen with the manager. He called me from his car as he was arriving at the office. He didn't have my resume in front of him...and the entire conversation was him asking me...do you have any questions. I was then invited in for the interview with him and a couple other managers....I got along with the other managers but didn't really hit it off with the hiring manager. Afterward? Ghosting. Didn't hear for about 2 weeks....then reached out to the recruiter who said the were still trying to make a decision...about a week later? They called and said they "went in a different direction." Turns out they selected an internal candidate. The frustration is the time invested and the recruiter stating how I was a perfect fit and then me having to reach out for the final decision. It was probably for the best since the hiring manager's phone screen clearly demonstrated he wasn't going to make the time a priority and he seemed distracted during the in person interview.
Generally I have three reasons. 1. Internal hires (or personal recommendations from a higher up/poaches) almost always win. 2. The person can start up faster and is a guaranteed commodity. I ask for money once a year or have lost a spot recently. If im hiring in q3 or q4 im in trouble. I'm very good at what I do, but I can't do everything so if someone can solve a business problem, or more business problems than I'm even stating, you're the hire. 3. If it's q1-q2 or an entry level position? They likey have better interview skills. It's rare for me to get more than one candidate that even understands the job and has a great sense of vision on what they want to do with it.
One thing you allude to but never mention - B.S. job descriptions. I've seen lots of those where the company/hiring manager probably hasn't reviewed and updated it in years, it doesn't apply to the actual job, so a lot of great candidates get filtered out almost immediately. Because of this I would apply for any job that I was reasonably qualified for, and I have gotten hired in spite of the crappy descriptions because I had those non-disclosed skills or experience.
Great advice!! This past Monday I interviewed for a company that I heavily researched and felt I did very well. I'm waiting on feedback yet found out today that the person I interviewed with wasn't the end client! How could a recruiter be so sloppy and NOT tell me? Thankfully I spoke well of a former company I worked for (big pharm company... one of the vaccines:)) but still upset the recruiter didn't mention that important fact! Hope I get the interview with the 'real'' client!
Earlier this month, I thought I'd done well in an interview for a role I felt I was a great fit for, as I've worked similar roles before. My resume has a decade worth of experience within the field and I thought I answered most questions well, though I often worried I was talking for too long and so would cut myself short. And then vice-versa, there was a question where I didn't want to ramble, but they looked like they wanted more info and I had nothing else to provide, figuring my short answer contained the requested information. In the end, I didn't get the job and that stung a bit as I know I would've done well in the role. But then I decided that it was actually a good thing. I lost my last job, a job I truly loved and hoped to grow with the company, because my state couldn't afford to keep us. But I want to find another job I'll love. The one I interviewed for paid considerably less, as I was operating om "just get a job, any job" mode. But I qualified for unemployment and while it's a paltry amount, it's enough to get by. I'm now taking my time with seeking out jobs that either fit more with what I want, or at least pay very close to or more than my prior one. I will also say that having done this song and dance so many times before, I've sort of lost my desire to over-impress. I don't like stuffy work cultures where using first names isn't normal. I like to have a genuine conversation with my interviewer while still being polite (I will always say "sir" or "ma'am" as that's common here in the south, but I smile and prefer to show my friendly side, especially as my jobs are in customer service). Oh. And I also think that job took issue when I inquired about possible promotion opportunities and the pay frequency to see if it matched what I needed. Usually they never state this stuff on job postings and otherwise, you don't find out until you've accepted the job. Maybe they saw it as me caring more about money...which I do, but I can care about that and do a great job, the two aren't exclusive. Anyways...I'm calling it their loss and me having dodged a bullet given the low pay, but I'll also try to prepare myself better for the next interview as I intend for that one to be for a job I truly want.
Those companies do exist, but they are few and far between. The company I work for now will hire new graduates, but if you get hired, you better bring your A game and be able to learn very quickly.
Took me 6 months after I graduated college to get a job in my career field. Luckily it was because my professor recommended me the job. So I guess ask your professor or college if there are any offers
@Rena Mako yeah connections are great if they have any power and want to help. in my experience if the referral can get you to the interview they are worthwhile. i have had some good referrals but so many are fake time wasters.
Nice tips. I've been interviewing pretty aggressively the last few months making it to various stages of the process before being denied. It's always tough but I always try to find ways to optimize my process to be better prepared for the next. I have a big third round this Wednesday where I'll be on a Zoom meeting with 5 members of the company including the VP. A lot of pressure but a part of the process for decently paid salary jobs.
I have always had a problem with looking down when I talk, for some reason I just can look up when I think of what to say in an interview. Employers most likely take me as a liar or someone who is weak. I can outperform most people on the job, but I can't keep a formal composure too well and talk my way into or out of situations, its a serious struggle.
I do feel that salary has a bit to do with it. Back right before 9/11 happened, I was interviewing for an executive assistant type role at a large company that I had worked for about 3 years earlier. The interview went great and I had negotiated into a salary (with OT) was going to be pretty darn great. Got the job offer on 9/9/01 and was getting ready to start. Well, 9/11 happens (nothing to do with this job, company and in a completely different state nowhere near ground zero) and the guy calls me on 9/12, uses 9/11 as the reason and retracts the offer. 🧐
Things didn't get better from there in 2002, Boeing lost the 2002 Joint Striker competition. At the time, I was in an intern at Boeing, a system administration intern in the Shared Services department. My supervisor explained that I would have been hired, but a hiring freeze had been put in place. That hit he really hard because at the time, it was very difficult to find entry level IT work in Washington State,
Funnily enough I was due to have an interview that day. The interviewer phoned me on the way as they were watching it live in the pub, and the interview didn't happen. I met them as planned but didn't get interviewed.
I actually did get the job at my current employer because of salary. The other candidate was a little stronger than I was on paper, but she was also asking $120k for a position where the expected band was $70-80k (which would also have been pretty standard for that position). The rest of the people in the hiring process thought that the Hiring Manager was out of his mind to be favoring her over me with this unreasonable salary. In the disagreement about the decision, the Hiring Manager gave his notice. I found this out a month or so after I started, but I was pretty concerned with the fact that the guy who technically extended me the offer quit a week after I started.
There is something you can do about internal referals being a better candidate. Be the internal referal. Build your professional networks, so that someone can reccomend you.
I read that nore interviews will be over the phone for the foreseeable future. That presents another challenge for people who aren't good with being personable and relatable without having face to face contact.
I've been an IT contractor for quite a while and one issue I find often is people who don't understand the difference between a contractor and an employee. One recent round of interviews showed it quite starkly: the people from the end client complained that I had "too many short-term engagements", yet when the person from the consulting firm and I reviewed my CV, she eventually exclaimed "it's all _normal length!_ They just have no idea how long this type of project lasts." It also shows up once we're in the job (often the client thinks they set my vacation, or that my agent is my manager), but in any case it's got to be one of the main reasons people who've worked as freelancers or contractors can't get back into being employees even if they want to. The people looking to hire just don't understand what they're dealing with, and many of them get completely blocked when we try to explain.
I made a stupid mistake to resign because the other company called me and told me that I was hired. I went to that company to sign the contract and the person looked surprised because I was the wrong guy. That will never happen to me ever again. :-)
So basically the reciters have the power to reject any applicants based on their looks, religion, sexual orientation,….. but on paper the law says u can’t discriminate on these
It is unfortunate that some of the top reasons why one was chosen over another are reasons a job seeker can do nothing about, i.e., internal over external. Also, salary is a big issue when asked what a candidate needs, but not revealing the wage range in the beginning, then disqualifying the candidate in interview. Not cool.
One company I went gave me a online test, and I saw a timer of 120 minutes, so took my time. 30 minutes later she came in and took the computer and pressed halt. The end result was off course average test result and was not hired. Panic came when they discovered that I got hired by the competition a week later. Especially when they realized that my test was only 25% performed. They did a lot of effort to get me back, but they had their chance. Not getting hired is not always doom, sometimes it gives you funny stories.
I tried to get my old job back. From the start of the interview, it was a mess. I'm pretty good at picking up on these things. I had the skills, but I didn't have the younger age advantage the other applicant had.
Today is the worse day. There’s a company I wanted to get into and I went through 4 interviews for this company. Using the same software that’s inline with position I applied for. They ghosted me for over a week, to tell me they went with a stronger candidate that was more inline for what they were looking for. 😢I want to be the candidate that gets picked
How about the unconscious or conscious bias like too old, too fat, not good looking, not sexy enough, etc. While these biases are usually forms of 'illegal discrimination' and can't be overtly stated, due to fear of legal action, they are still very real.
I did get hired, but, yes, my position ended up going to another employee than I. And I guess they were stuck with me, so they sent me somewhere else. I still got the job, but not the job I was hired for. Also, that employee that got my position ended up going back to her original department, which happened to be where I ended up at. Geez, I don’t know why they didn’t just transferred me. It also became a further mess with them hiring more than what the department needed.
Rejection letter? That would be great. I've received rejection letters after maybe 10% of interviews. Job offers maybe 20%. And absolute ghost-town the rest of the time.
Applied for a call center supervisor position. I had years of experience and an MBA. The person who beat me was 5'9 and was blond and very gorgeous. Her experience was ,she worked at Beals clothing store for three months. Guess the look in the face on the interviewer said it all when he saw me and her.
I applied for a job at Interfor and their HR gave me the wrong address for the interview location. Also the in the phone interview HR said the last person in the job had a "dispute" with their manager and quit.
What if all the candidates that get to the interview have the skills, and had a CV that got them an interview, but have behavioural problems, or are toxic people. Does the company just go with no-one, and the boss does it himself, or do you go back to the resumes and get the next best fit? What happens when no candidate is right (either they don't have the experience or will be a problem to work with)? Does the company just hire no-one, and scrap the role, or is hiring near enough is good enough?
Two major issues: companies hiring H1-B canidates with less experiance, at a pay rate below what more qualified citizens are asking. Also, diversity initiatives that exclude canidates by key word filtering. Seen both of these questionable practices in practice at small and large companies.
No. Not all companies even take H1-B visa holders, also it depends on the job so this is barely an issue. The jobs taking international applicants usually do so bc there aren’t enough skilled applicants/ candidates in the hiring pool to fill in those spots or their fellows on track to graduate from a program that connects them w/ those companies. This tends to happen more in healthcare and engineering were certain skill sets that are incredibly difficult acquire and usually demand years of training and great knowledge about in order to save ppls lives (ie doctors who are specialists in niche fields). That’s why hiring managers/ teams are more likely to opt for an international or “non-citizen” candidate. It’s bc they have the skill set and tools that these places are looking for.
No I have been rejected because of my race. You know when you know. Not offended. One office only had all white females with long brown hair all the same size and age. No diversity. Not that I care, I am about who is qualified and it was obvious they wanted a fraternity, not a professional team of qualified candidates. Even before and during the interview they were eyeballing eachother to communicate I was not like them. Their office photo online makes them look like a Charlie's Angels movie and not an office of trusted professional women. I showed my boyfriend who rolled his eyes and laughed hysterical. He is a high paid Controls Automation Engineer with a 6-figure salary. He put his hand on my shoulder and said "I would never trust that business, how ridiculous. You are a competent and confident woman, you'll find better."
"Why They Hired The Other Candidate And Not You"... Because they thought they could get more from them while paying the same or less? Or they thought you would stand up for yourself, but they could control the other person to their benefit because they seemed like they had fewer options elsewhere? I mean, there could be good reasons, too. But I never expect them from a modern business.
People who have been with one company for more the 8 years don't understand that you're not going be treating the same way in a new company who doesn't know you. And you will soon find out that you got away with a lot of things at your old company that would have gotten you fired at your new place. Learn to be respectful and humble.
Hey Brian, I am wondering if you take video requests. If so, I am wondering what your opinion is in terms of who should receive better compensation between a veteran top performer, and a green manager that’s brand new to a company. With your background in recruiting, I’ll bet you hit the jugular on this one.
Agree with all these…. Can you advise on my situation? I have a job offer in hand, which is where I want to take my career, pay is good, and reputable company… but waiting on second company that is still interested in me but is still interviewing other candidates. Should I forget the second company and take the offer that was already presented? Sounds like this video relates to the second company that likes me but trying to see if someone else aligns better.
I was quoted information from the most recent annual report, only to be told by interviewer how incorrect I was. Other interviewers at other companies were also just too stupid to have that job.
Why would a company use a video chat especially a Poor maps when might not be? For instance I've heard of zoom but this employer wanted Microsoft video and so they were a lot of unintended delays in awkward shots.
To me i cannot stand the 'we like to get to know you personally' or the 'nice guy' act companies do end of the day im exchanging my labour for money its not a personality contest or least it shouldn't be 🤣
I lost a school bus gig and I know why. I made a funny to me joke. The lady asked me would I operate the Wheelchair bus. I said sure. I should have stopped there. But my chance to be funny said Most kids are already strapped into the their chairs. So all I gotta do is strap the chair to the bus like a forklift on a flatbed. She didn't laugh she got this morbed look of dread. And said our children are not Forklifts. So she hired a pot head that got fired 3 months into the school year. The pothead got caught smoking pot on the bus with the kids by a parent. The referral thing works I had a gig and got 5 guys I know jobs there. Just because the manager would put the new applicants applications on the desk to see if anyone knew them. The parent co. of that outfit created a position just for me as a promotion. Full time with benefits casual driver/trainer. A jackofalltrades kind of position. Salary +. In 28 yrs that was the funniest job and the longest job I've had. 9 1/2 yrs. The gig I'm at now I'm senior driver/trainer and have been here 5 yrs.
I would disagree that salary is not a factor in selection. If it's a dead-end job, they're going to burn and churn. You are a cost. That's what the Great Resignation is all about.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff As they say, you have two choices: buck it or F it. You're not going to fix it. No fun for employees because their needs are not going to be met. No fun for middle management because they're caught in a bad situation without an easy, satisfying solution.
can they fire you because of this reason? your day off after monday. but they tryna call u later tonight to come in for tuesday but you dont have your phone with you. after few days they text you to come in and talk and they got your last check on the table.
It depends where you are in the world. Here in the UK, if you've worked somewhere less than 2 years, they can fire you for almost any reason at all, even something personal like "you've gotten fat". As long as it's not over a protected characteristic (like being gay).
Are you in the US? Most states are at-will states, meaning you are employed at will and you can leave your job at any time without having to give an explanation or advanced notice, and your employer can do the same. They can fire you for any reason as long as the reason is not illegal, and based on what you've shared, it doesn't sound like they did anything illegal. So yes, they can fire you. As far as unemployment goes, if you're fired from your job, you may be able to collect unemployment if you weren't fired for misconduct, breaking rules/company policy, or for performance issues after working at your job for a while. You also need to have worked at your job for a certain number of hours and meet the wage requirements in order to be eligible to apply for benefits.
@@sethkang4410 Each state, district and territory sets its own guidelines for who is eligible for unemployment benefits and how much they’ll receive. You must meet your state’s criteria for wages earned or time worked during an established period, known as a “base period,” which is usually the first four out of the last five completed calendar quarters before the time that your claim is filed. So, I would search online for unemployment benefit eligibility requirements for your state to find out what their earning requirements are. They could require you to earn a flat dollar amount during your base period, like $2500 or something, or require that the quarter you earned the most money in exceed a specific amount, like $1500. Idk what state you’re in so I can’t really give you a direct answer.
I have reviewed thousands of resumes and agree with you. First make the resume clear, easily understandable and related to my needs. Your resume is not just giving me your KSAs, it's telling me how well you communicate them. Fail this and I move on to the next one.
I went on an interview years ago and didn't get the job. When I called to ask why, I was told because I was an hour late for my interview. I politely interjected and said I was 30 minutes early. The person who had interviewed me was an hour late. I suggested they check their log in sheet for the day I was there early. To my surprise they called me back a few days later, apologized for the mix up and asked me to come in for a second interview. I declined, as in my eyes this shows how disorganized they are. Or the person interviewing me didn't care for me personally. Either way I had no desire to work for someone like that.
100% agree. I would have declined as well.
Sometimes rejection is a blessing in a disguise
Baller move
Smart decision
Sounds like the person who interviewed you lied to cover their own ass. Praise be. What a *blessing* for them to lay bare a corporate culture of ass-covering and finger-pointing. I would literally never want to work for any company I know was like that, those environments are so incredibly toxic.
I’m amazed at even getting a rejection notice these days.
Ive become nub to the whole process and assume i wasnt selected until i receive an offer.
Agreed...I've been passively looking and had a few interviews where they had great interest...loved my background and then silence.
I always thank them because it gives closure the mental stress of not knowing.
@@tamikaskinner2264 Its true! Go in with a polite smiling "eff you" attitude. They want you to beg and they expect you to work as if you're an owner. They look at your salary, break it down to hourly and want much more than 40 hours out of you.
I'n afraid I have been to interviews where they had already decided on an internal candidate and I was just there so they could say they had sought internal and external candidates even though they had no intention of hiring any external candidate before I ever even walked in the door.
Exactly. Just recently happened to me. It's their loss, something fantastic will be coming your way.
I see it as a blessing and I am being re-directed to something fantastic.
Been there many times. But my experience is where all of the candidates were internal, but the fact was that they already had someone in mind before the job was ever posted.
My wife went to an interview 45 minutes away. The staffing agency that she was representing sent a total of TWELVE candidates over to be interviewed. The company went with an internal candidate instead, and everyone from the agency was rightly pissed. Who the hell interviews that many people period, much less if they already know the person they want?
When I've interviewed people (face to face), it's after I've combed through a few dozen resumes and had 5-10 phone interviews, so the person arriving for the interview is basically in a position of "Don't screw up and you'll land the job" even if they don't know this. I don't have time or inclination to personally interview a ton of people face to face, nor do I want to waste their time.
Same...one interview I could feel that...if they could've they would've given me the rejection letter the same day
In my experience many hr and interviewers do not have enough knowledge of the work to be performed to select the proper person to do the work. Many selections are made based on interview performance (acting/bs ability) rather than actual job skills.
Just experienced that myself.
This is probably the #1 problem with the hiring process.
This is definitely the #1 issue with the hiring process. This and requiring candidates to go through multiple rounds of interviews, especially if it's for a non-executive role. Like, anything over 3 is ridiculous.
And how white your name is
@@nissan_skyline I had a former coworker where she and I were both interviewing for jobs at the same time so would share our various news. She went through three separate interviews for what was basically an Executive Assistant position (she had a more senior role at our current company so this would have been a step down) where they just loved to talk about the various personality tests for "culture fit". At one point, they asked her if she had any questions and she brought up that at some point in this process, they should begin to discuss compensation expectations, and apparently that offended them so they elected not to continue further. After THREE interviews.
Some people are just too terrified to make the call on a candidate by themselves so they require the inputs of a dozen people or so. It's ridiculous. Second opinion is good. Third opinion (and interview) you're reaching a bit. Anything more is just an absolute waste of time.
Those jerks don't even care what you have on your resume. They decide based on HOW they feel about you. Just don't take it personally as we live in a biased world.
@@breatheliveandthrive7404 so true. many times they will hire based on liking or region you belong to. its all so bad
100 per cent of the reason why you weren't chosen is because they either didn't like you or liked another candidate better than you. That's it in a nutshell. What an employer is looking for is a direct reflection of themselves this is why some companies make poor hiring decisions over and over again. If you work for a great company or a crappy one remember you are a direct reflection of that company.
If you are going to hire someone internally, then companies shouldn't advertise the job externally.
Why not? If they wanted someone internally from the start, they would just promote that person into the role they're looking to fill as opposed to advertising for the role. They may give preferential treatment to internal candidates, but that doesn't mean they're always going to hire them if someone better comes along that doesn't already work for them.
@@nissan_skyline I can see that will put noses out of joint.
@@dhenderson1810 Possibly.
Yes, but companies do this to be "politically correct". And it's for no other reason.
Depending on your country, I think by law they have to advertise externally. Even if in practice they have no intention of hiring externally, they have to be seen to have attempted to.
Im glad you mentioned internal candidates. About 95% of the time, especially as you move up the line or if you were extremely qualified and didnt even get an interview or callback, this is the true reason.
Agreee, it's either internal candidates or hires referred by employees / connections
Might not read this but wanted to say thanks. Needed to find a job in under a month and did so with your help and tips. My new job gave me WFH options and a 17k raise. Keep doing what you’re doing :)
That’s awesome!!! Congrats
I have been job hunting for the last 9 months, and there is very little feedback with regard as to "why" when you aren't selected. Being a mature graduate with prior work experience trying to break into a new field is exceedingly difficult and becoming futile. Applying to entry level roles the most common feedback I get, when I do get any form of feedback, is almost always that someone with more direct experience got the role. You get trapped in the paradox of needing prior experience to get the role, though you need a role to get experience. That's all else being equal and despite being qualified and having certifications. Employers are very risk averse and experience always wins out.
The 'ol catch 22. That's why I have a degree in one line of work and work in a totally different line of work. I could never get the job in the first place to ever get any experience. Don't mortgage your future for some damn college degree that will never get you where you want to be.
This is why practice with others is important. The feedback provided by recruiters and HR is almost always a lie. Why? Once they have told the candidate they are not selected the desire to get you off the phone is greater than their desire to help. Oh sure, some good recruiter do want to help but they almost never have gotten constructive feedback from the decision makers valuable enough to relay to the candidate. Instead repeating a common answer that is effective enough to end the conversation is relayed instead.
@@cward1954 I have a Master's degree and graduated at the top of my class with a 3.94 GPA. I was never able to get a job in that field due to having a speech impediment. I cringe now thinking about all of the time and money I wasted getting my degrees.
@@MadMartigan-d7m the kings speech
Recruiters or managers can’t really give you feedback simply because there isn’t any feedback to give you because 90% of the time the reason they didn’t hire you has nothing to do with your skills or how you presented yourself in the interview.
For me I learned not to take it so personally! Most of the time hiring managers hire based on what they think is a good fit versus the actual value or skill sets one may bring to the table. One of my supervisors prioritizes people who is more social and willing to shop and play games with her! Very irrational 🙄 but that’s the reality!
I totally agree. Many reasons are also due to biases of whoever is hiring. Also the may fear for their job and will not want to hire anyone who might be a threat (skills wise)
I agree, though sometimes it is in fact, personal. Keep in mind that this is based on the premise that the employer knows what they are doing and they are ethical and professional. That's not always the case.
I'm a very social person (the pandemic has changed tht of me a bit) but as one who interviewed folks in a few different industries I never gave preference to social ppl!! Often I would tell candidates to please do not be offended for once the questions begin I will not look at them b c I'm taking detailed notes...I don't want outside appearances to color my decisions...I found long lasting successful employees that way
Didn't mention "cultural fit" as a top reason. If they don't like you then nothing else matters.
they know when they see you the interview is just something they have to do. once they shake your hand look at your face they already made their decision
Salary is definitely a consideration at small companies. At large companies, it becomes much less of an issue. Larger firms have bigger budgets.
Larger firms sometimes don’t always have a budget either.
I agree. Working on both small and larger companies, budget is definitely less of an issue (or none at all).
In my experience, it’s the small enterprise that have the balls to pay me at proper market price. Large corporations are the ones that will do subtle tricks to lowball me. They know I have the skills but they don’t want to spend the money. And that’s why I have more respect for small enterprise.
Resumes and job interviews are like dating profiles.
1) 90 percent of people who are successful lied to get accepted, and didn't present their true self.
An employer is like a date. They have summed you up in the first five minutes, and if they don't like you, your papers are stamped, and there is nothing you can do or say to rectify the situation.
They will reject you because they don't like you.
Bingo!!
Yep, 💯% true!
In my career in HR, I did see some of what you say. However, as someone who has hired hundreds of people, I can also tell you that we get pretty good at sniffing out liars. You are taking a huge risk in being dishonest because if you lie to me you won't get hired: ever. As far as the five minute thing, the only time I made a quick judgement was looking at resumes and application forms. If you can't communicate clearly and in an organized fashion, I'm not looking at it more than 30 seconds.
It's been my experience that hiring managers don't even read the resume. Someone that is "job hopping" or someone that doesn't stay at a job for any reasonable amount of time, will have better interviewing skills. Companies want someone who can do the most for the company and pay the least on the salary. And I have seen many times where a candidate has NONE of the listed qualifications, but they get the job because they are related to someone else who already works for the company.
It's not that there is a shortage of qualified workers to fill jobs out there, it's because of the nonsense that interviewers and recruiters focus on when hiring new people to fill jobs. You can agree or disagree, it's up to you.
I agree with you it happens very frequently here in Hawaii where I live!
Wow! For any position where I have worked with the hiring manager (as a part of the team), they have read and usually analyzed the resume as they are too busy to waste their time interviewing while the department is short staffed.
@@jon6309 It seems to happen a lot where I live as well like connections lead to you getting interviews
The "more closely related industry" issue has been hitting me hard these past few months. I realized that I wanted to go from the product design side of Mechanical Engineering to the architectural engineering side, and it's just been a nightmare. They never teach you in school that you better pray that your first job out of school is in the industry you want to spend the rest of your career in.
For those types of jumps it's more viable when you already work for the company.
@@MartinRomero true, but most engineering companies are in one field or another. I've personally never seen an engineering firm that did both product design and MEP/HVAC engineering
The purpose of the CV or resume is to get you an interview. Make sure you have keywords from the job description on it. Before an interview, learn some NLP skills and say things such as ‘In this role I will do X, Y and Z’. Show interest, if in doubt ask Them questions about the role, team etc. Treat an interview as a discussion, you are interviewing the company too.
So... basically rewrite your CV for every job application?
You know, many of the required skills are hierarchical, which means that a required one is a prerequisite for another, that's already on the CV. Ergo, the candidate has way more value because it also brings to the table skills that are above the job posting. You might say "yeah, but he's overqualified" and you'd be correct. However, the experience the candidate comes with, it translates well into speed and efficiency.
Example: Two candidates that have "SAP" on their CV are placed at the same level, although one of them has worked as a key user in automotive and the other was just inputting billing data. Massive gap between their skills, yet they are placed at the same level. Why? Because of the poor understanding of the job on the recruiter's side.
TLDR: HR would be ten times more efficient if they'd find niches and thoroughly prepare before interviews.
Some time ago I applied for a position in which I was already running in the company as contractor. I know that I was the right person with experience , both in that company and in others of the same level. At the end of the day they rejected me and gave the position to a person with ZERO experience (they never said why, I just guest is due to salary expectation and this is a big company so they can pay). I resigned and went to another company.
Months later they posted the same position again and called me to apply it since the selected person could not meet the standards required for the position. I told them: "you already had a qualified person with the experience for that position, if before you couldn't pay what I'm worth, much less now"😎
A lot of company just want the best and cheaper employee!!
Had a recent interview. I'd been told by the hiring manager that they wanted someone who will stay a long time - longevity. I'm 61. I figured they assume I'd leave soon to retire. Ageism?? Also, they ended up taking someone internally. I was not happy. My first interview of that day was with the hiring manager. It was obvious she was just going through the motions and had already made up her mind when she refused to take information I brought for her that detailed out my leadership capability From Gallup. I am a certified Gallup Strength Coach. She called this information JUST "A personality Test" and was unresponsive when I tried to explain how this is not the case. I was not happy having had my time wasted.
I have Been "PASSED OVER" for other candidates too many times to count. With content from channels like this one, I expect that I should have this problem a little going-forward.
Because many times that candidate was already selected pre interview (typically internally) The interviews are only exercising formalities.
As a director, I was making 195k. When I'm asked for my compensation needs and I say anything near that number, I think I've killed any chance I have of getting an offer.
Here are the real reasons you didn't get hired:
Reason #1. Your great resume listing your fantastic qualifications and experience got buried under 1,000 resumes from unqualified, inexperienced candidates.
Reason #2. The guy who got hired plays golf with the hiring manager every weekend.
Reason #3. Your resume is so impressive that the hiring manager is scared you will take his job if he hires you.
Reason #4. Implicit bias. Managers tend to hire people who are just like them (race, religion, age, etc.) because that is who they feel most comfortable around and can easily connect with.
Or you asked for your actual rate oh, they are impressed by you, but they want to hire someone cheaper regardless if they can get 70% there
Reason #4 is exactly why some industries in 2022 are still just white men
Move reason #2 to the top
I recently went to an interview and the interviewer was all over the place and clearly stated the traits her employees had, which were into music and into art. I am clearly the opposite from that, so of course I got rejected, and I was wondering if it was because I didn’t fit her profile.
Thanks for the tidbit on positioning yourself as the best person to solve a problem for the company. This info is gold. As for why they didn’t hire you, these reasons all assume the interviewer is confident and professional. I’ve seen people passed over by insecure or unprofessional managers, intimidated by a candidate who “over educated,” worked for a Fortune 500 company, was seen as overly buttoned up and professional rather than one of the boys/girls. Unfortunately many of us were passed up due to snap judgements and inaccurate assumptions made by HR or a hiring manager. A recruiter once told me in confidence that I was passed on bc one (of 5) interviewers noticed my wedding band and assumed my age to be early 30’s. The last person quit after maternity leave and she feared I was planning a family soon. Sure, ten years later.
I was an internal employee, had the skills and had managers backing me. Still got rejected for someone who worked there before but quit for another job. Sometimes the hiring managers just make bone headed decisions.
@@MrNiceGuy485 I was just rejected today for an internal role and passed up to an external.
My brother prepared for an interview, for a week, the day of, they cancelled it and someone in HR told him, you can't expect to move to corporate at his current level, you need to 'know someone.' How defeating?! I work in HR at my company and would NEVER say that to an internal or external candidate, period. Also, it's unprofessional to cancel an interview the day of, out of courtesy, they should interview someone, because you never know if the other candidate will actually work out.
I don't need to be a team player, all I want is for the supervisor to tell me what machine. part,or operation which needs to be run. I am a CNC machine operator. I hate employers advertising a certain hourly rate then when and/if you get a in person interview the hourly rate is over less than they have advertised rate.. I can run almost any CNC controlled lathe or mill. Most HR people do not care what you can do but get you in the door at the very minimum wage which is the federal or state minimum wage. Most companies do not care about you but want you to be 100% commuted to them which is total bullshit to me..
Pardon my french, but it sounds like the candidate who gets the job is the one who bullshits better.
Sometime it's just bad luck. Even if you do everything perfectly your odds are still probably just 1/3. It's like going on an internet date. There could be all manner of things going on in the background that prevent you from getting another date with her that don't involve you screwing up. Maybe they are still involved with another relationship/internal candidate. Maybe they aren't really ready for a relationship/don't have the budget for a permanent hire.
That doesn't mean you should get discouraged. Just keep going till you find the right one.
Right now, there are so many candidates that people aren’t pulling the trigger on great fits. They keep thinking something better is out there.
This video goes far deeper than I expected based on the title. It was very helpful.
These are good reasons, though in a specific situation you usually can't know. Employers usually won't tell you--liability issues are in play--and after getting turned down, I just want to move on and not dig into questions like who got hired and why.
A true story about internal candidates. For a job I applied to a few years ago, there was a (sort of) internal candidate who was earmarked for the position, and the external posting was little more than a formality. Of course I didn't know this, so I applied, not realizing that I was doomed from the start. HOWEVER, after the internal candidate was given an offer, he and the manager had an interpersonal conflict which led to the offer being rescinded and the company moving to external candidates. It was several months after I applied, and I assumed I was long out of the running. I ended up going through the interview process and getting an offer.
I guess my point is that, while what Brian says appears to be true in general, there are also going to be unusual circumstances, which might work for or against you in the job process.
This happened to me numerous times.
if a role you are applying for comes down to you and 1 other candidate, the candidate who already has connections in the company will get chosen
Wait ... people are actually getting rejection emails rather than being ghosted?? Where are these magical companies?
You need to try australia, your cv gets sent and disappears, and you never hear anything back ever.
Two years ago, I was called by a recruiter for an opportunity as an external candidate. The HR rep was extremely pleased with my background and very happy with the phone screen. And kept me in the loop on progress....until....I had the phone screen with the manager. He called me from his car as he was arriving at the office. He didn't have my resume in front of him...and the entire conversation was him asking me...do you have any questions. I was then invited in for the interview with him and a couple other managers....I got along with the other managers but didn't really hit it off with the hiring manager. Afterward? Ghosting. Didn't hear for about 2 weeks....then reached out to the recruiter who said the were still trying to make a decision...about a week later? They called and said they "went in a different direction." Turns out they selected an internal candidate. The frustration is the time invested and the recruiter stating how I was a perfect fit and then me having to reach out for the final decision. It was probably for the best since the hiring manager's phone screen clearly demonstrated he wasn't going to make the time a priority and he seemed distracted during the in person interview.
Generally I have three reasons.
1. Internal hires (or personal recommendations from a higher up/poaches) almost always win.
2. The person can start up faster and is a guaranteed commodity. I ask for money once a year or have lost a spot recently. If im hiring in q3 or q4 im in trouble. I'm very good at what I do, but I can't do everything so if someone can solve a business problem, or more business problems than I'm even stating, you're the hire.
3. If it's q1-q2 or an entry level position? They likey have better interview skills. It's rare for me to get more than one candidate that even understands the job and has a great sense of vision on what they want to do with it.
ive been binge watching all day and I finally feel like I have some strenght back and can deal with the situation more effectively! Thank you!
One thing you allude to but never mention - B.S. job descriptions. I've seen lots of those where the company/hiring manager probably hasn't reviewed and updated it in years, it doesn't apply to the actual job, so a lot of great candidates get filtered out almost immediately. Because of this I would apply for any job that I was reasonably qualified for, and I have gotten hired in spite of the crappy descriptions because I had those non-disclosed skills or experience.
Great advice!! This past Monday I interviewed for a company that I heavily researched and felt I did very well. I'm waiting on feedback yet found out today that the person I interviewed with wasn't the end client! How could a recruiter be so sloppy and NOT tell me? Thankfully I spoke well of a former company I worked for (big pharm company... one of the vaccines:)) but still upset the recruiter didn't mention that important fact! Hope I get the interview with the 'real'' client!
I love your tonality in your videos.
It speaks with integrity and purpose. ♥️
Earlier this month, I thought I'd done well in an interview for a role I felt I was a great fit for, as I've worked similar roles before. My resume has a decade worth of experience within the field and I thought I answered most questions well, though I often worried I was talking for too long and so would cut myself short. And then vice-versa, there was a question where I didn't want to ramble, but they looked like they wanted more info and I had nothing else to provide, figuring my short answer contained the requested information. In the end, I didn't get the job and that stung a bit as I know I would've done well in the role.
But then I decided that it was actually a good thing. I lost my last job, a job I truly loved and hoped to grow with the company, because my state couldn't afford to keep us. But I want to find another job I'll love. The one I interviewed for paid considerably less, as I was operating om "just get a job, any job" mode. But I qualified for unemployment and while it's a paltry amount, it's enough to get by. I'm now taking my time with seeking out jobs that either fit more with what I want, or at least pay very close to or more than my prior one. I will also say that having done this song and dance so many times before, I've sort of lost my desire to over-impress. I don't like stuffy work cultures where using first names isn't normal. I like to have a genuine conversation with my interviewer while still being polite (I will always say "sir" or "ma'am" as that's common here in the south, but I smile and prefer to show my friendly side, especially as my jobs are in customer service).
Oh. And I also think that job took issue when I inquired about possible promotion opportunities and the pay frequency to see if it matched what I needed. Usually they never state this stuff on job postings and otherwise, you don't find out until you've accepted the job. Maybe they saw it as me caring more about money...which I do, but I can care about that and do a great job, the two aren't exclusive. Anyways...I'm calling it their loss and me having dodged a bullet given the low pay, but I'll also try to prepare myself better for the next interview as I intend for that one to be for a job I truly want.
If the interviewer doesn't tell you how much you will get paid, then he doesn't want to tell you.
@@dhenderson1810 The amount was given but not the frequency.
I am an entry level person that just graduated college. I know there will be someone who will be willing to give a college grad rookie a chance.
be honest for the first year. then create a fake job and see the interviews role in.
Those companies do exist, but they are few and far between. The company I work for now will hire new graduates, but if you get hired, you better bring your A game and be able to learn very quickly.
Took me 6 months after I graduated college to get a job in my career field. Luckily it was because my professor recommended me the job. So I guess ask your professor or college if there are any offers
@Rena Mako yeah connections are great if they have any power and want to help. in my experience if the referral can get you to the interview they are worthwhile. i have had some good referrals but so many are fake time wasters.
First - who is getting responses? Ghosting is the standard
Second - ageism is very, very tough to overcome
Third - there is no job that is a dream job
Nice tips. I've been interviewing pretty aggressively the last few months making it to various stages of the process before being denied. It's always tough but I always try to find ways to optimize my process to be better prepared for the next. I have a big third round this Wednesday where I'll be on a Zoom meeting with 5 members of the company including the VP. A lot of pressure but a part of the process for decently paid salary jobs.
@@RebeldSky Thanks!
Thank you for the information! Your channel has been super helpful during my job hunt. Appreciate it!👍🏼
Budget , it's always budget .
I have always had a problem with looking down when I talk, for some reason I just can look up when I think of what to say in an interview. Employers most likely take me as a liar or someone who is weak. I can outperform most people on the job, but I can't keep a formal composure too well and talk my way into or out of situations, its a serious struggle.
I do feel that salary has a bit to do with it. Back right before 9/11 happened, I was interviewing for an executive assistant type role at a large company that I had worked for about 3 years earlier. The interview went great and I had negotiated into a salary (with OT) was going to be pretty darn great. Got the job offer on 9/9/01 and was getting ready to start. Well, 9/11 happens (nothing to do with this job, company and in a completely different state nowhere near ground zero) and the guy calls me on 9/12, uses 9/11 as the reason and retracts the offer. 🧐
Things didn't get better from there in 2002, Boeing lost the 2002 Joint Striker competition. At the time, I was in an intern at Boeing, a system administration intern in the Shared Services department. My supervisor explained that I would have been hired, but a hiring freeze had been put in place. That hit he really hard because at the time, it was very difficult to find entry level IT work in Washington State,
Funnily enough I was due to have an interview that day. The interviewer phoned me on the way as they were watching it live in the pub, and the interview didn't happen. I met them as planned but didn't get interviewed.
I actually did get the job at my current employer because of salary. The other candidate was a little stronger than I was on paper, but she was also asking $120k for a position where the expected band was $70-80k (which would also have been pretty standard for that position). The rest of the people in the hiring process thought that the Hiring Manager was out of his mind to be favoring her over me with this unreasonable salary. In the disagreement about the decision, the Hiring Manager gave his notice.
I found this out a month or so after I started, but I was pretty concerned with the fact that the guy who technically extended me the offer quit a week after I started.
How weird. Secret Nepotism probably?
I see it as a blessings. Job wasn't meant for me. I am being tedirected for a fantastic role.
God is always in play
Just stumbled upon your channel and I'm about five videos in. Really informative content, thank you.
There is something you can do about internal referals being a better candidate. Be the internal referal. Build your professional networks, so that someone can reccomend you.
I read that nore interviews will be over the phone for the foreseeable future. That presents another challenge for people who aren't good with being personable and relatable without having face to face contact.
If I already got called in for an interview obviously they liked my resume. Why are they still looking at my resume If we're past this step???
I've been an IT contractor for quite a while and one issue I find often is people who don't understand the difference between a contractor and an employee. One recent round of interviews showed it quite starkly: the people from the end client complained that I had "too many short-term engagements", yet when the person from the consulting firm and I reviewed my CV, she eventually exclaimed "it's all _normal length!_ They just have no idea how long this type of project lasts."
It also shows up once we're in the job (often the client thinks they set my vacation, or that my agent is my manager), but in any case it's got to be one of the main reasons people who've worked as freelancers or contractors can't get back into being employees even if they want to. The people looking to hire just don't understand what they're dealing with, and many of them get completely blocked when we try to explain.
This is why you lie on your resume
@@Desperado665 plausible fabrication.
Thank you this is super useful and helpful!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
I made a stupid mistake to resign because the other company called me and told me that I was hired.
I went to that company to sign the contract and the person looked surprised because I was the wrong guy.
That will never happen to me ever again. :-)
Very helpful and honest video. Thank you, Bryan. Relatively new subscriber here. Thanks for all the great content.
Welcome to the channel and thanks for the support!
because the person is a friend or family member in most cases
So basically the reciters have the power to reject any applicants based on their looks, religion, sexual orientation,….. but on paper the law says u can’t discriminate on these
It is unfortunate that some of the top reasons why one was chosen over another are reasons a job seeker can do nothing about, i.e., internal over external. Also, salary is a big issue when asked what a candidate needs, but not revealing the wage range in the beginning, then disqualifying the candidate in interview. Not cool.
I disagree about the pay/salary. I'm sure that is a factor for some jobs
Many thanks for the upload.
You forgot to mention nepotism
....and cronyism
One company I went gave me a online test, and I saw a timer of 120 minutes, so took my time.
30 minutes later she came in and took the computer and pressed halt.
The end result was off course average test result and was not hired.
Panic came when they discovered that I got hired by the competition a week later. Especially when they realized that my test was only 25% performed. They did a lot of effort to get me back, but they had their chance.
Not getting hired is not always doom, sometimes it gives you funny stories.
Very helpful!! Thanks, Brian! 🙏🙏
I tried to get my old job back. From the start of the interview, it was a mess. I'm pretty good at picking up on these things. I had the skills, but I didn't have the younger age advantage the other applicant had.
Nice seeing Tamayo giving career advice
Today is the worse day. There’s a company I wanted to get into and I went through 4 interviews for this company. Using the same software that’s inline with position I applied for. They ghosted me for over a week, to tell me they went with a stronger candidate that was more inline for what they were looking for. 😢I want to be the candidate that gets picked
In the end, it is all office politics.
How about the unconscious or conscious bias like too old, too fat, not good looking, not sexy enough, etc. While these biases are usually forms of 'illegal discrimination' and can't be overtly stated, due to fear of legal action, they are still very real.
I did get hired, but, yes, my position ended up going to another employee than I. And I guess they were stuck with me, so they sent me somewhere else. I still got the job, but not the job I was hired for. Also, that employee that got my position ended up going back to her original department, which happened to be where I ended up at.
Geez, I don’t know why they didn’t just transferred me. It also became a further mess with them hiring more than what the department needed.
Rejection letter? That would be great. I've received rejection letters after maybe 10% of interviews. Job offers maybe 20%. And absolute ghost-town the rest of the time.
Applied for a call center supervisor position. I had years of experience and an MBA. The person who beat me was 5'9 and was blond and very gorgeous. Her experience was ,she worked at Beals clothing store for three months. Guess the look in the face on the interviewer said it all when he saw me and her.
When and how can someone start something new?
What is that a list of things because we're thinking you literally had to have that same job before
I applied for a job at Interfor and their HR gave me the wrong address for the interview location. Also the in the phone interview HR said the last person in the job had a "dispute" with their manager and quit.
What if all the candidates that get to the interview have the skills, and had a CV that got them an interview, but have behavioural problems, or are toxic people.
Does the company just go with no-one, and the boss does it himself, or do you go back to the resumes and get the next best fit?
What happens when no candidate is right (either they don't have the experience or will be a problem to work with)?
Does the company just hire no-one, and scrap the role, or is hiring near enough is good enough?
Wonder how DEI and ESG will affect this moving forward.
Two major issues: companies hiring H1-B canidates with less experiance, at a pay rate below what more qualified citizens are asking. Also, diversity initiatives that exclude canidates by key word filtering. Seen both of these questionable practices in practice at small and large companies.
im a brown dude who im sure get hired because i fill the diversity quota.
No. Not all companies even take H1-B visa holders, also it depends on the job so this is barely an issue. The jobs taking international applicants usually do so bc there aren’t enough skilled applicants/ candidates in the hiring pool to fill in those spots or their fellows on track to graduate from a program that connects them w/ those companies. This tends to happen more in healthcare and engineering were certain skill sets that are incredibly difficult acquire and usually demand years of training and great knowledge about in order to save ppls lives (ie doctors who are specialists in niche fields). That’s why hiring managers/ teams are more likely to opt for an international or “non-citizen” candidate. It’s bc they have the skill set and tools that these places are looking for.
No I have been rejected because of my race. You know when you know. Not offended. One office only had all white females with long brown hair all the same size and age. No diversity. Not that I care, I am about who is qualified and it was obvious they wanted a fraternity, not a professional team of qualified candidates. Even before and during the interview they were eyeballing eachother to communicate I was not like them. Their office photo online makes them look like a Charlie's Angels movie and not an office of trusted professional women. I showed my boyfriend who rolled his eyes and laughed hysterical. He is a high paid Controls Automation Engineer with a 6-figure salary. He put his hand on my shoulder and said "I would never trust that business, how ridiculous. You are a competent and confident woman, you'll find better."
"Why They Hired The Other Candidate And Not You"...
Because they thought they could get more from them while paying the same or less?
Or they thought you would stand up for yourself, but they could control the other person to their benefit because they seemed like they had fewer options elsewhere?
I mean, there could be good reasons, too. But I never expect them from a modern business.
People who have been with one company for more the 8 years don't understand that you're not going be treating the same way in a new company who doesn't know you. And you will soon find out that you got away with a lot of things at your old company that would have gotten you fired at your new place. Learn to be respectful and humble.
Why do employers widen the pool of candidates and not reject you straight up?
Hey Brian, I am wondering if you take video requests. If so, I am wondering what your opinion is in terms of who should receive better compensation between a veteran top performer, and a green manager that’s brand new to a company. With your background in recruiting, I’ll bet you hit the jugular on this one.
As the internal candidate; I do hope my employer will give me that courtesy shot when the next opportunity arises.
Agree with all these…. Can you advise on my situation? I have a job offer in hand, which is where I want to take my career, pay is good, and reputable company… but waiting on second company that is still interested in me but is still interviewing other candidates. Should I forget the second company and take the offer that was already presented? Sounds like this video relates to the second company that likes me but trying to see if someone else aligns better.
Really great vid.
I was quoted information from the most recent annual report, only to be told by interviewer how incorrect I was. Other interviewers at other companies were also just too stupid to have that job.
Why would a company use a video chat especially a Poor maps when might not be?
For instance I've heard of zoom but this employer wanted Microsoft video and so they were a lot of unintended delays in awkward shots.
Three letters might be killing your chances is ATS.
To me i cannot stand the 'we like to get to know you personally' or the 'nice guy' act companies do end of the day im exchanging my labour for money its not a personality contest or least it shouldn't be 🤣
Comprehensive
Let me guess he tucked in his shirt wore a belt and had a firm hand shake 🤣
I lost a school bus gig and I know why. I made a funny to me joke. The lady asked me would I operate the Wheelchair bus. I said sure. I should have stopped there. But my chance to be funny said
Most kids are already strapped into the their chairs. So all I gotta do is strap the chair to the bus like a forklift on a flatbed. She didn't laugh she got this morbed look of dread. And said our children are not Forklifts. So she hired a pot head that got fired 3 months into the school year. The pothead got caught smoking pot on the bus with the kids by a parent. The referral thing works I had a gig and got 5 guys I know jobs there. Just because the manager would put the new applicants applications on the desk to see if anyone knew them.
The parent co. of that outfit created a position just for me as a promotion. Full time with benefits casual driver/trainer.
A jackofalltrades kind of position. Salary +. In 28 yrs that was the funniest job and the longest job I've had. 9 1/2 yrs.
The gig I'm at now I'm senior driver/trainer and have been here 5 yrs.
🆒 Story bro
I would disagree that salary is not a factor in selection. If it's a dead-end job, they're going to burn and churn. You are a cost. That's what the Great Resignation is all about.
Hopefully you’re watching this channel closely and not targeting those dead end jobs. :)
@@ALifeAfterLayoff As they say, you have two choices: buck it or F it. You're not going to fix it. No fun for employees because their needs are not going to be met. No fun for middle management because they're caught in a bad situation without an easy, satisfying solution.
I came here to find out why they selected me.🤭
Congratulations 😉.
=AND("Younger", "Cheaper")
can they fire you because of this reason? your day off after monday. but they tryna call u later tonight to come in for tuesday but you dont have your phone with you. after few days they text you to come in and talk and they got your last check on the table.
It depends where you are in the world. Here in the UK, if you've worked somewhere less than 2 years, they can fire you for almost any reason at all, even something personal like "you've gotten fat". As long as it's not over a protected characteristic (like being gay).
@@scoopitywoop gotcha. i was thinking if i can get unemployment with this until i get my interviews going
Are you in the US? Most states are at-will states, meaning you are employed at will and you can leave your job at any time without having to give an explanation or advanced notice, and your employer can do the same. They can fire you for any reason as long as the reason is not illegal, and based on what you've shared, it doesn't sound like they did anything illegal. So yes, they can fire you. As far as unemployment goes, if you're fired from your job, you may be able to collect unemployment if you weren't fired for misconduct, breaking rules/company policy, or for performance issues after working at your job for a while. You also need to have worked at your job for a certain number of hours and meet the wage requirements in order to be eligible to apply for benefits.
@@nissan_skyline how much wage are we talking bout
@@sethkang4410 Each state, district and territory sets its own guidelines for who is eligible for unemployment benefits and how much they’ll receive. You must meet your state’s criteria for wages earned or time worked during an established period, known as a “base period,” which is usually the first four out of the last five completed calendar quarters before the time that your claim is filed. So, I would search online for unemployment benefit eligibility requirements for your state to find out what their earning requirements are. They could require you to earn a flat dollar amount during your base period, like $2500 or something, or require that the quarter you earned the most money in exceed a specific amount, like $1500. Idk what state you’re in so I can’t really give you a direct answer.
I have reviewed thousands of resumes and agree with you. First make the resume clear, easily understandable and related to my needs. Your resume is not just giving me your KSAs, it's telling me how well you communicate them. Fail this and I move on to the next one.
Because the other makes less money. Simple.
Hire for attitude and train for skills? Total bs
7:30 this shouldn’t be legal…. It wastes everyone’s time