As much as I love Floyd Rose tremolos, I did a guitar rebuild, it's a Peavey V-type exp and had a Peavey licensed tremolo and it was horrible. So I ordered a Schaller trem and Schaller locking tuners. Wow what a difference, that Schaller is so smooth, the fine tuners are so sensitive, super nice tremolo! The guitar is a really nice metallic Blue and the original hardware was black. When I swapped to the Schaller I switched everything to gold, it just pops now, it's now one of my go to guitars. I did add a Fu-tone Brass big block, red springs and Titanium saddle blocks and screws in blue just to match. Stays in tune no matter what, just a beautiful setup!
Schaller is the GOAT. the Lockmeister 6 is the most stable trem I've ever tried! the only problem is it costs $300+ to ship here in SEA, and I want the Ruthenium one to replace the FR Special on my LTD M-330R.
@yanagida_01 your lucky, buy the time I had my Schaller shipped to me was 700.0 to Canada for the set. It was 300.0 plus Shipping and exchange, 700.0 . By the time I put the Schaller tremolo system, locking tuners trim peices and pickups and Fu-tone parts I'm into a 2500.0 on a 500.0 guitar. But it definitely doesn't play like a 500.0 guitar now. I have a Floyd rose original on my 1989 Kramer Nightswan and it still probably one of the best I have. I have 5 guitars all with a mix of Schaller and Floyd Rose and they all stay in tune no problem. I give all of them the same parts from Fu-tone, Titanium saddle blocks and screws with the brass big blocks and red springs. Always stays in tune. Sometimes it's money I don't have sorta thing, but for the long run, there all solid and reliable!
@@charlesb7831 wow, where I'm from, in France, it's the opposite : basically everything from the US is more expensive and you have to add customs taxes to the mix. Whereas Schaller stuff is cheap AF, Gotoh would be right in between Schaller and OFR .
@SociopatheAssume oh no, everything coming into Canada is 2 and a half times the price, with exchange some times a bit more. Heaven forbid that it's an oversized package or if you have to pay based on weight, then your wallet is really gonna start crying and need therapy afterwards lol. Even when I order even small Titanium parts from Fu-tone, I have to order several things to make it worth while, because of this very issue. About nuts.
@@charlesb7831 geeeeez....then I have to sympathize because from what I read, you basically have the worst of both world, and these crazy import laws : I had never heard of a tax by weight before, for example, this is just insane !
Floyd Rose Pro series is a great alternative to Lo-Pro Edge, without buying an Ibanez guitar. I have one installed in my custom 7 strings and it flutters really well. Replace the spring with gotoh for heavy gauge and you're set to go!
It is , especially for those who want the "flatness" of the Lo pro Edge, but don't want/need an Ibanez guitar : I'm used to 12' radius neck or compound 12-16 but I can't feel good with the RG type necks. That being said I d'ont know the quality of this specific model, because I was lucky enough to buy one that was Made in Germany with high quality steel. But for some unknown reasons they discontinued this model and only propose this one now, which is basically the "low profile" version of their FR 1000's series, made in Korea and some parts (including the saddles) that are made of zinc. Do you have the older made in Germany one or the newer 1000's series ? Mine flutters very well too, at least as good (if not better) as an Edge/Lo pro.
Lol I just saw a guitar with a FR "Pro" series trem on it and wondered if you already had a video talking about it and boom, you posted a video about it like 13 hours ago
My favorite is the Gotoh 1996T. It’s basically the same as an OFR with a couple minor comfort improvements. The Bar is a better design, the saddles are more rounded off, and the fine tuners are more out of the way.
You can absolutely replace the arm socket by a "pop in'" style one, Floyd sells it on their website, and having tested and adopted it, I can say I love it : the feel and touch is the same as the screw in style, except you just pop it in, AND you can adjust the torque/stiffness of the arm itself with an hex key.
The very first version of the floyd rose pro was actually usa made by kahler, when they started mass production they moved production in germany, after that it was discontinued at 2020 i think, and than replaced with the floyd pro 1000 which is korean.
Partially correct. The Floyd Rose Pro was designed by Gary Kahler and Floyd Rose together at Kahler International with their respective engineers. Kahler was only legally allowed to make them for Kramer and when Kramer tanked the manufacturing pro was moved to Germany. The original Kahler Floyd Rose Pro was the highest quality of the three versions produced. The Korean version is very different from the original Floyd Rose Pro.
Great video review. In my personal opinion, I think double locking trems (floyd rose, gotoh GE1996T, etc.) are obsolete. I think that modern day Gotoh 510, hipshot tremolos, etc. can do the same that most double lockign trems can, without the hastle.
wait so you said that off the website it comes with the locking nut but on the website it says the locking nut is sold separately but in its pictures it has the locking nut in it along with the rest of the hardware?
I own the schaller lockmeister, (the original floyd rose) and it's the best i ever owned. It's unbelievable. I can do what ever i whant to the point i think the guitar will die ... but it stays in tune. I love it 😀
I think the Ibanez Edge cosmo black finish has the same problem. I’ve been thinking about getting a new Prestige but hesitating because they all come with that finish lol
You could always just find a model with a black Edge, like the RG550. The newer Cosmo finishes wear a bit better than those of the 2000s, but eventually it does show wear. Not so with the black Edge.
@@philfrank5601 oh definitely, I have an RG7620 from 1998 with a black lo pro and there’s essentially no wear. I did get to play an RG550 in the store once and it was amazing. Only thing I didn’t like about it is the middle pickup, just gets in the way for me.
Throw in some titanium screws and a Schaller sure claw to make life easier. The only thing I hate about Floyds is that you need to ensure the radius matches the neck and bridge for best results....they frequently get overlooked.
thats like the jackson jt580lp. i have an fr pro on my jackson dk2s, previous owner installed it. i prefer the jackson jt580lp. the fr pro is good though.
That totally depends on your previous setup. I had to route new holes for the bushings on this one because previously there was a licensed jackson branded Floyd in there
@@nikaxeguitar I like your videos btw but you usually mention if you use a weak alloy studs with a hardened steel base plate it can cause wear issues would it do the same thing in this secnario?
So, I'm on a journey to upgrade my RG470AHM-BMT which I love. I came with the double-locking Ibanez trem system... it stays in tune great! but for me, the fine tuners get in the way. I went on Reverb and purchased a new Edge Zero 2 and also went to FU-Tone and bought the brass block and strings upgrades thinking that was the answer... after watching this video I wish I would have hit the go button on the Floyd. Does anyone have thoughts on what I should do? I haven't got the new edge yet it's still on its way.
I picked up one of these and wasn't expecting the design to be so different from a normal low profile tremolo like a Jackson for example, the bottom piece where the fine tuners adjust to is shaped like a V and it won't sit flush on some guitars for that reason, maybe it's because of design patents but it was disappointing because I really wanted a real Floyd rose tremolo.
I like it. 👍 Slightly off topic question but is there someone out there who's reasonable priced that I could ship my guitar and piezo floyd rose bridge to for them to install on a LP style body? I don't trust myself to do it and I don't know of anyone local. I want to install a ghost piezo floyd rose system on an Epiphone 1959 LP to make it sort of like the previous Alex Lifeson Les Paul models with the piezo-loaded floyd rose that were discontinued. The ones with 2 output jacks. Possibly considering having it done to a McCarty 594 SE in Vintage Sunburst so it would be kind of like the PRS version of that guitar as well, haven't decided which one yet. Any recommendations would be much appreciated though.
It wont work well on your LP. The ones with a trem have a shallower neck angle. The bridge will stick way over the body and will catch on everything. You might want to get something like an LTD with a floyd stock, then put the ghost trem in it. Or go to some place like Texas Toast and custom order it. The other option would be to try and put the ghost saddles on an FRX.
Floyd rose has not worked with Schaller for a few years now. The new stuff does not say made in Germany or have any county or origin marking. I don't think they have said who is making their parts now. They have blog posts confirming they are no longer made in Germany and have new tooling with a new manufacturer.
@@nikaxeguitar in case my other comments gets blocked for a link. The Floyd rose website under news. The saddles and nut insets fit better on recent non made in Germany, or not marked made in Germany parts, and the nut feels like a ghoto 1996 locking nut. The new pop in trem arm also feels ghoto. I bought a few after getting the 1st to hit free shipping on my nut order
OFR and the 1984 series still made in Germany "As of late 2022, the Floyd Rose factory in Germany has changed the markings on our Original Series" "it does not say “Made in Germany”, this is not a counterfeit product but rather it is from the most updated production run from Germany." "On the latest production runs of the Floyd Rose Original Tremolo, the "Made in Germany" stamp on the bottom has been removed from the base plate by the factory"
@@zanzabar4ky7I don't think you actually read the blog post. Yes, it doesn't have the made in Germany stamp anymore, and yes they use CNC now. But read the actual blog
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Fuck yeah dude!
As much as I love Floyd Rose tremolos, I did a guitar rebuild, it's a Peavey V-type exp and had a Peavey licensed tremolo and it was horrible. So I ordered a Schaller trem and Schaller locking tuners. Wow what a difference, that Schaller is so smooth, the fine tuners are so sensitive, super nice tremolo! The guitar is a really nice metallic Blue and the original hardware was black. When I swapped to the Schaller I switched everything to gold, it just pops now, it's now one of my go to guitars. I did add a Fu-tone Brass big block, red springs and Titanium saddle blocks and screws in blue just to match. Stays in tune no matter what, just a beautiful setup!
Schaller is the GOAT. the Lockmeister 6 is the most stable trem I've ever tried!
the only problem is it costs $300+ to ship here in SEA, and I want the Ruthenium one to replace the FR Special on my LTD M-330R.
@yanagida_01 your lucky, buy the time I had my Schaller shipped to me was 700.0 to Canada for the set. It was 300.0 plus Shipping and exchange, 700.0 . By the time I put the Schaller tremolo system, locking tuners trim peices and pickups and Fu-tone parts I'm into a 2500.0 on a 500.0 guitar. But it definitely doesn't play like a 500.0 guitar now. I have a Floyd rose original on my 1989 Kramer Nightswan and it still probably one of the best I have. I have 5 guitars all with a mix of Schaller and Floyd Rose and they all stay in tune no problem. I give all of them the same parts from Fu-tone, Titanium saddle blocks and screws with the brass big blocks and red springs. Always stays in tune. Sometimes it's money I don't have sorta thing, but for the long run, there all solid and reliable!
@@charlesb7831 wow, where I'm from, in France, it's the opposite : basically everything from the US is more expensive and you have to add customs taxes to the mix. Whereas Schaller stuff is cheap AF, Gotoh would be right in between Schaller and OFR .
@SociopatheAssume oh no, everything coming into Canada is 2 and a half times the price, with exchange some times a bit more. Heaven forbid that it's an oversized package or if you have to pay based on weight, then your wallet is really gonna start crying and need therapy afterwards lol.
Even when I order even small Titanium parts from Fu-tone, I have to order several things to make it worth while, because of this very issue. About nuts.
@@charlesb7831 geeeeez....then I have to sympathize because from what I read, you basically have the worst of both world, and these crazy import laws : I had never heard of a tax by weight before, for example, this is just insane !
Floyd Rose Pro series is a great alternative to Lo-Pro Edge, without buying an Ibanez guitar. I have one installed in my custom 7 strings and it flutters really well.
Replace the spring with gotoh for heavy gauge and you're set to go!
It is , especially for those who want the "flatness" of the Lo pro Edge, but don't want/need an Ibanez guitar : I'm used to 12' radius neck or compound 12-16 but I can't feel good with the RG type necks. That being said I d'ont know the quality of this specific model, because I was lucky enough to buy one that was Made in Germany with high quality steel. But for some unknown reasons they discontinued this model and only propose this one now, which is basically the "low profile" version of their FR 1000's series, made in Korea and some parts (including the saddles) that are made of zinc. Do you have the older made in Germany one or the newer 1000's series ? Mine flutters very well too, at least as good (if not better) as an Edge/Lo pro.
Lol I just saw a guitar with a FR "Pro" series trem on it and wondered if you already had a video talking about it and boom, you posted a video about it like 13 hours ago
That’s awesome! I dig it. Trem arm kinda sucks but over all good
My favorite is the Gotoh 1996T. It’s basically the same as an OFR with a couple minor comfort improvements. The Bar is a better design, the saddles are more rounded off, and the fine tuners are more out of the way.
You can absolutely replace the arm socket by a "pop in'" style one, Floyd sells it on their website, and having tested and adopted it, I can say I love it : the feel and touch is the same as the screw in style, except you just pop it in, AND you can adjust the torque/stiffness of the arm itself with an hex key.
The very first version of the floyd rose pro was actually usa made by kahler, when they started mass production they moved production in germany, after that it was discontinued at 2020 i think, and than replaced with the floyd pro 1000 which is korean.
Very nice!
Partially correct. The Floyd Rose Pro was designed by Gary Kahler and Floyd Rose together at Kahler International with their respective engineers. Kahler was only legally allowed to make them for Kramer and when Kramer tanked the manufacturing pro was moved to Germany. The original Kahler Floyd Rose Pro was the highest quality of the three versions produced. The Korean version is very different from the original Floyd Rose Pro.
Great video review. In my personal opinion, I think double locking trems (floyd rose, gotoh GE1996T, etc.) are obsolete. I think that modern day Gotoh 510, hipshot tremolos, etc. can do the same that most double lockign trems can, without the hastle.
Thanks! This is actually something I was thinking about.
Great video. So, I see folks buying titanium studs and I would think that’s a good way to ruin hardened steel plate knife edges. Make sense?
Rule of thumb is to always match your medals
I like it, the Low PRO, I mean:)
Thank you for the video but what about any cavity modifications to fit it?
Wondering the same thing with those "v shaped" springs... Saw a demmel Jackson install video and required heavy notching
wait so you said that off the website it comes with the locking nut but on the website it says the locking nut is sold separately but in its pictures it has the locking nut in it along with the rest of the hardware?
I own the schaller lockmeister, (the original floyd rose) and it's the best i ever owned. It's unbelievable. I can do what ever i whant to the point i think the guitar will die ... but it stays in tune. I love it 😀
I think the Ibanez Edge cosmo black finish has the same problem. I’ve been thinking about getting a new Prestige but hesitating because they all come with that finish lol
You could always just find a model with a black Edge, like the RG550. The newer Cosmo finishes wear a bit better than those of the 2000s, but eventually it does show wear. Not so with the black Edge.
@@philfrank5601 oh definitely, I have an RG7620 from 1998 with a black lo pro and there’s essentially no wear. I did get to play an RG550 in the store once and it was amazing. Only thing I didn’t like about it is the middle pickup, just gets in the way for me.
i wondered if you can put this on the routing of an ibanez Edge zero two (the ones without ZPS)
Throw in some titanium screws and a Schaller sure claw to make life easier. The only thing I hate about Floyds is that you need to ensure the radius matches the neck and bridge for best results....they frequently get overlooked.
thats like the jackson jt580lp. i have an fr pro on my jackson dk2s, previous owner installed it. i prefer the jackson jt580lp. the fr pro is good though.
So would you also have to replace the bushings that came with the trem or could you just put the new studs in the old bushings?
That totally depends on your previous setup. I had to route new holes for the bushings on this one because previously there was a licensed jackson branded Floyd in there
@@nikaxeguitar I like your videos btw but you usually mention if you use a weak alloy studs with a hardened steel base plate it can cause wear issues would it do the same thing in this secnario?
So, I'm on a journey to upgrade my RG470AHM-BMT which I love. I came with the double-locking Ibanez trem system... it stays in tune great! but for me, the fine tuners get in the way. I went on Reverb and purchased a new Edge Zero 2 and also went to FU-Tone and bought the brass block and strings upgrades thinking that was the answer... after watching this video I wish I would have hit the go button on the Floyd. Does anyone have thoughts on what I should do? I haven't got the new edge yet it's still on its way.
I picked up one of these and wasn't expecting the design to be so different from a normal low profile tremolo like a Jackson for example, the bottom piece where the fine tuners adjust to is shaped like a V and it won't sit flush on some guitars for that reason, maybe it's because of design patents but it was disappointing because I really wanted a real Floyd rose tremolo.
I'll choose gotoh GE1996T , SureClaw and fu tone spring ,it's best upgrade
Does the floyd rose pro and floyd rose 1000 use the same base plate?
No sir. Same materials, but different design. The saddle screws must pass through the base plate on the 1000.
@@nikaxeguitar exactly what I was thinking but in their website they don't sell the floyd rose pro base plate! Weird
Got a FR pro on my heart field. One thing I’d say about this bridge is you couldn’t install it as “decked” against the body.
i mean you cant really deck any of the recessed ones. you can block the block against the body but you cant deck them.
I like it. 👍
Slightly off topic question but is there someone out there who's reasonable priced that I could ship my guitar and piezo floyd rose bridge to for them to install on a LP style body? I don't trust myself to do it and I don't know of anyone local. I want to install a ghost piezo floyd rose system on an Epiphone 1959 LP to make it sort of like the previous Alex Lifeson Les Paul models with the piezo-loaded floyd rose that were discontinued. The ones with 2 output jacks. Possibly considering having it done to a McCarty 594 SE in Vintage Sunburst so it would be kind of like the PRS version of that guitar as well, haven't decided which one yet. Any recommendations would be much appreciated though.
It wont work well on your LP. The ones with a trem have a shallower neck angle. The bridge will stick way over the body and will catch on everything. You might want to get something like an LTD with a floyd stock, then put the ghost trem in it. Or go to some place like Texas Toast and custom order it. The other option would be to try and put the ghost saddles on an FRX.
My palm tends to rub the E fine tuner on my 1000 standard Korean, flattening it very quickly. I have been considering this version to replace it
why is your palm that far back
@@cdsmetalhead99 outside edge of my hand would be more accurate anatomical description
nice pants !
Aren’t they awesome!
It's a great trem, but a fat brass block does not fit on it.
Its not lesser known dimebag used it
Flutter. How does it flutter....
It's a lo pro copy.
Floyd rose has not worked with Schaller for a few years now. The new stuff does not say made in Germany or have any county or origin marking. I don't think they have said who is making their parts now. They have blog posts confirming they are no longer made in Germany and have new tooling with a new manufacturer.
Seriously???
Can you link the article/blog?
@@nikaxeguitar in case my other comments gets blocked for a link. The Floyd rose website under news.
The saddles and nut insets fit better on recent non made in Germany, or not marked made in Germany parts, and the nut feels like a ghoto 1996 locking nut. The new pop in trem arm also feels ghoto. I bought a few after getting the 1st to hit free shipping on my nut order
OFR and the 1984 series still made in Germany
"As of late 2022, the Floyd Rose factory in Germany has changed the markings on our Original Series"
"it does not say “Made in Germany”, this is not a counterfeit product but rather it is from the most updated production run from Germany."
"On the latest production runs of the Floyd Rose Original Tremolo, the "Made in Germany" stamp on the bottom has been removed from the base plate by the factory"
@@zanzabar4ky7I don't think you actually read the blog post. Yes, it doesn't have the made in Germany stamp anymore, and yes they use CNC now. But read the actual blog
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That’s the next trem review 😇
@@nikaxeguitar you’re gonna dig it.
@@STRATSAFIRE Thats awesome
@@nikaxeguitar we should jam sometime
@@STRATSAFIRE I’m down anytime
there is no such thing as a guitar bridge with a "tremolo" effect.