The T+A DAC 200 DEEP DIVE Review. This is THE DAC to hear in 2023.
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Today I talk about the T+A DAC 200 and I discuss why it is among the best I have ever heard. I also compare it to my DCS Lina and a very nice DAC inside of my Aavik U-150.
This is also a preamp (and I tested it with Pass XA 60.8's, sounded wonderful) and a headphone amp. German build and design.
The price of this is incredible for what it is.
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Super review. this DAC was created with the idea of upsampling using HQPlayer (DSD 1024/512). and it will bring a new level of sound unattainable now. I just wanted to let you know that you need to try this.
Even DSD512 upsampled sounds wonderfully like analogue with the DAC200. Havent tried DSD1024.
@@goodsound4756sigma something. But he didnt mention much indeed.
Can we please get another Top 10 DAC List now that you've reviewed the DAC200 and DAC204?
Thanks for all you do! Have you ever tried the Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC Series 3? It costs around $11,000. I can never find a review of it, but Upscale Audio always swears by it. Thanks again!
Great review
I appreciate how you set the stage with a brief recap and summary of your prior equipment / reviews then get into the comparisons. Have to offer you a 5-star rating on your reviews and for your seemingly extemporaneous almost effortless articulation of your evaluation of the equipment. Impressive!
Have you tried a Holo Audio May KTE?
I feel like that’s one of the only DACs left that is considered “top” that you haven’t reviewed yet.
Love the reviews, thanks
+ Mola Mola Tambaqui (is said to combine benefits of both May and Dave in one, without their disadvantages, and be better than both)
+ MSB Discrete (lowest model of MSB, as per Sajid Amit's opinion of Amplify Audio Reviews is a clear step up over May)
that Mola mola is like 2x the cost!! and most times the dave is paired with a ext clock and way more thAn 2x the cost.. not comparable..@@Peace_Guard
@@rolling1885 I agree. But the OP was suggesting which other 'top DACs' he has left to still review. But yes, MM and others I sugested are more of an upgrade path rather than a direct competitor at similar price level.
As for additional external pairings like clocks, you can't automatically summarize their price.
What i loved about the T+A DAC was the extended reach of its closeness to far away high frequency bass levels that were close up lower to the absolute top (I'm talking about the lowest bottom of the top basement). The liquid dryness of the forward backness gave a real perspective on virtual "there". "There" didn't exist "here" when the sound levels were turned off at full max.
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@@alexandruzorilon Yes! Exactly! You understand!
@@paddle_shift , Thank You for that Masterful Expose’ of the exact same thing I heard from Afar meaning it’s a DAC Asfar as being present when it’s close by or from near field but Sofar away.. Quad simple equation really..
True words
Great review! Thanks
I ordered the T+A DAC 200 (with the optional HDMI module) three weeks ago today (the sticky wicket with my order was the optional HDMI module). Should be at my house in another three weeks (hopefully). I'm very much looking forward to what this DAC will do for my system and how this will take my digital to the next level. Pairing it with a Sony SACD transport and an Auralic Aries G2.1 streaming transport. Should be pretty magical.
what's the price of the DAC and the module? Thanks!
@@net_news DAC is USD $7125 and the module is USD $600.
@@thomasnoe1193 thanks bro!
I ordered mine to but got a dealers one burning in. It is sublime. Its one of the best and most versatile DACs. Use nos2 and USB to get DSD. With native DSD512 its just wow. Oh and dont Save on the USB cable. You wont believe which effect this has.
For best sound look into Network Acoustics Muon/Muon Pro Ethernet filter system. Best upgrade for sound quality that can be had at present for streamers.
Please review HoloAudio -May DAC
T&A DAC and Holo May Kte are very close!
How does the T + A plus blue node compare with the Meitner MA3?
What can you say about playing DSD files and utilizing the 1-bit converter?
Would be interesting to compare this to a Cary Audio DMS800PV. I love mine. (Albeit it the MSRP is 15K)
Great review. I have it on home trial this week (already decided to pull trigger) - so thanks for confirming. One thing interesting though, is that I prefer the DAC 800.‘S output as fixed level and use the pot of my integrated as volume control. Not sure if you agree?
Use only fixed output and Make sure to feed it with dsd256 Minimum.
If you have a preamp, always do fix vol at DAC (or trimmed if necessary) and use pre vol.
@@AudiolandCH Is there a reason for the suggestion (eg the preamp section of the 800 is poor), please? My plan was to connect directly to the T+A power amp since the DAC seemed designed to do that.
If you get a chance, run the Lumin U1 mini and let the Lumin software covert everything to DSD. The T+A dac200 has a separate DSD decoder that is supposedly better that it’s pcm converter. Of course you will have to run the Lumin with USB
Going to get a lumin u2 mini for the dac200 which sends native dsd512 over a ansuz D2 USB cable. Will work because its Linux based. Should sound sublime hopefully.
It's just that when converting anything does something boring to the sound. My experience is that it's best to play files natively. For example ripped CDs have more life to them when play without convertion or upsampling.
I LOVED the sound from my old U2 mini upsampled Q0buz to DSD 256 / 512 to the T+A I WISH my HIFI rose upsampled..:(
How is it as a preamp with analog input?
Hi can you review Rockna Wavedream Signature XLR
That integrated amplifier is gorgeous 😍 what is that?
See at 5:00
No I2S ports?
I bouth tplusa k1 and as amp is very dry is it normal
Thanks for sharing
How does the hifi rose rs150b compare to this? I’m looking at both of these but can only end up with one.
No Hifi Rose dac can match this one.
Thanks for the reply. I am leaning more towards a hifi rose at the moment.
This probably one of the best (less artificial) dac pre amps but who is gonna put it against the AAdac and NewOntech and maybe the Sugden dac 4 and the cheaper Teac 701 or 505 that are even available with clock and streaming option 🤔
What happened to those wooden horn speakers you said were the best?
They are no BEST anymore😂😂
They made excellent use as firewood on one cold winter's night...
You need to get a Holo May Dac. It's the one everyone talks about (along with Denafrips) and I'm curious as to your take.
Where are your Fleetwood Deville speakers!!!!! The room doesn't look the same without them. :)
according to one reviewer this beats the holo may kitsune edition. and he replaced his with it
Nice. But they jacked the price too much. The Ferrum Wandla is halve the price. Though this is much better and real and less artificial than Halo and Laiv dacs but probably not better than the newest Lampizator Amber dacs. Also the AA dac and NewOntech and Sugden are a must try. And the Meitner MA3 and Tambaqui are much more expensive. The volume control is only interesting for the analog input if it is pure analog without processing. Then it would be nice as a pre amp in combination with Class A poweramps such as the Galion TS A 20 poweramp 🤔
Own it, love it…
DSD klingt einfach wunderbar damit.
@@AudiolandCH PCM auch (PCM as well)
I agree about the Germany...
Hello from Montreal, how is Dac 200 perform as a preamp? I’m thinking of replacing my Mcintosh c2600 preamp and my Denafrips Venus Dac with this T+A. It would be connected to Mcintosh solid state mc462 amp. I’m trying to reduce the number of components. I’m lucky the dac 200 is available to audition where I live. Thanks
Hi, I too from Montreal. Can you please advise where can I audition the dac 200. Thanks
Centre HiFi absolu either Boisbriand or Brossard location. Brossard location launches their Absolu line next month.
@@danielhifi3147 Merci, I’m aware that centre hifi carries it, I will set something up with them.
Oh yeah. I forgot to ask.....Do that make this DAC with an internal streamer?
They make a companion unit called the MP200 which has a streamer and CD player built in and can serve as a control unit for the DAC 200, as it permits things like upgrading the DAC200's firmware and more.
Does this stream as well?
no
Something sexy about T + A. Can’t figure why.😅
I’m wondering how can we pair such expensive DAC with blue sound node?
The digital source doesn't matter that much. They all sound about the same. It's all about the DAC
Garbage in equals garbage out. Contrary to what anyone tells you, including the obviously clueless person that replied to you, the source is the foundation of your system. It sets the stage for every component after it. I've built more custom digital sources than I can count and the source is by far the most overlooked component in mid-to-high end systems. Don't skimp on the source!
I totally agree. In the studio recording environment one thing that makes the track sound the best is the purest source. Source is the key if not most important component in the audio reproduction chain.
The Germany sometime makes fantastic Products 😉
You just answered my question.
Can you please try to pit this against Aavik d280? Really want to hear your view on this comparison
Well, Aavik would have to send me one and I don’t think that will happen anytime soon. If they do, I’d happily review it.
Have you tried the Holo Dacs ?
if not, is it because you had it but didn't like it so u didn't review it?
In case you care, I just posted my findings on this topic, as I have both....
@@keastcw on this thread below..... "My Observations....
@@Hubbman32 Where exactly? Looks like it got deleted
I have it. 👍🇩🇪🎶
Hello, what amp amd speakers do you use ?😮
Nice that it has balance control, but it lacks normal tone control. Ideally I want a DAC with both those. Anyway I doubt I would pay 10k for a DAC. Don’t need to be spending that much to get a great DAC these days.
Well... it's 7k...so.....
and you dodnt as they can be had for about 5k OR LESS like I got and with the HDMI..
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Used to like Leica's? No possible. True love is forever...
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Surely a DAC that alters sound that much is not doing its job properly? A DAC should be completely neutral
Most other “budget” DACS do not have advanced re-clocking master clock anti-jitter technology (which has been around for over 20 years) which in the DAC200 is apparently next level. That translates to more open dimensional presentation and clarity. I owned the now discontinued (yet legendary) Genesis Digital Lens. It made such a difference in the way of clarity and expansive presentation. I’ve heard the T+A reclocking technology is part of the equation that gives it an edge over the average sigma-delta or R2R topology.
jajajaj "organic nature" "plumb and juicy" jajaja really? Great engineering terms.
Why/how would you describe sound in engineering terms ?
T+A amplifier was biggest dissapoint in my audio life...😑.
Tell us more please…
Dude, what speakers did you use?
@@grommie Dumba Audio CO 6700
@@benedyktczydziesty4399 cant find it on google😬
@@grommie why ?
Thank you for another commercial
When I heard $30K dcs DAC.... I take a🚶♂️
Great review