interesting - watched this previously but think I missed a nuance - would welcome your thoughts - in that two finger cut move fractionally after the shoulder move, my sensation is that it needs to feel v much like a 'cut' action with the fingers as opposed to any roll over sensation - the shoulder move definitely encourages the forearm 'drop' or levelling out into the ball - its the fingers nuance I would welcome a response on - thank you
Dude, I want to cry right now. I just hit some balls this way and I’ve never hit it so well. I chipped in the yard and even that was better so a hit some hard shots and I was stunned. I hit my Potch wedge over the tree I usually roll it up to. I’ve been driving myself nuts for years trying to figure something out and this has me emotional. I’m playing tonight and I cannot wait. Do you have a website or teach somewhere, Can I ask you more questions or email you?l or send you my swing?
No website but frozendivots@gmail.com, power galore in that move. There has to be to throw a REAL rise ball. I’m not a teacher but I’ve helped out many and did something at Bay Hill that looks like it may happen again and I’ll get you info. But I’m not a teacher and have no plans to be that. I have a deal in peer review now that I’ll post when done. Retired now and bored…hahaha.
I know Lee C talked about angular momentum but the only thing a know about that is when my dougther was figure skating and she ea doing a piruett she went from big wide arms to narrow to spin. But what is it in golf? Can you show us how to get that and how to do it. Thanks again for a interesting video👍
No such thing in golf, as in COAM. We don’t make ‘circles’ to get that to happen. The skater starts with wide skate circle and tightens then pulls arms in. We make partial turns so there is no conservation going on. Ideally you want to get to waist high on DS and have the shaft bent and ready to assist the speed. The skater has something very different going on. We have several changes of direction and they don’t. So angular momentum and the conservation of it is very different. This point is where golf gurus go into the world of incorrect…
In other words, anyone who mention the figure skater or a merry go round (slower horse to faster out horse) as a golf reference is wrong. Neither apply.
Rory does nearly the same thing just on a more angled, or overhand, plane. His lead arm is pinned for braking. Angled plane trick is to SEE it and trace it. A righty will have his left eye above the right eye on that plane. Turn your head on angled plane and notice it’s not the same as a normal horizontal. It’s a tilted view. So swing that way. Swing to eye line. The flag is higher in the frame. So reaching for it should look and feel different.
@@andygaspare6207 on the Angled plane, for sure. Part of the reason I say underhand is more efficient. You already ‘see it’ correctly. In angled plane you are ‘shaking hands’ in a different direction, if you stay in plane. Your arms move differently relative to your body, because of that plane.
This is the same move that Bryson had a huge breakthrough on a few years ago. Helped him hit consistent draws. He has a RUclips video where he catches the moment he figures it out
Very similar to what Cowen refers to as “spinning down the forearm” 👍🏼
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Will definitely try.
interesting - watched this previously but think I missed a nuance - would welcome your thoughts - in that two finger cut move fractionally after the shoulder move, my sensation is that it needs to feel v much like a 'cut' action with the fingers as opposed to any roll over sensation - the shoulder move definitely encourages the forearm 'drop' or levelling out into the ball - its the fingers nuance I would welcome a response on - thank you
@@robfrancis-h8s yes 100% cut move. That move obviously has a different effect on a golf club than a softball. A roll over would hood/close the face.
Dude, I want to cry right now. I just hit some balls this way and I’ve never hit it so well. I chipped in the yard and even that was better so a hit some hard shots and I was stunned. I hit my Potch wedge over the tree I usually roll it up to. I’ve been driving myself nuts for years trying to figure something out and this has me emotional. I’m playing tonight and I cannot wait. Do you have a website or teach somewhere, Can I ask you more questions or email you?l or send you my swing?
No website but frozendivots@gmail.com, power galore in that move. There has to be to throw a REAL rise ball.
I’m not a teacher but I’ve helped out many and did something at Bay Hill that looks like it may happen again and I’ll get you info. But I’m not a teacher and have no plans to be that. I have a deal in peer review now that I’ll post when done. Retired now and bored…hahaha.
Yes you are back!
Yes, really got tp support the club through to release. Most amateurs dump support from the top.
I know Lee C talked about angular momentum but the only thing a know about that is when my dougther was figure skating and she ea doing a piruett she went from big wide arms to narrow to spin. But what is it in golf? Can you show us how to get that and how to do it. Thanks again for a interesting video👍
No such thing in golf, as in COAM. We don’t make ‘circles’ to get that to happen. The skater starts with wide skate circle and tightens then pulls arms in. We make partial turns so there is no conservation going on. Ideally you want to get to waist high on DS and have the shaft bent and ready to assist the speed. The skater has something very different going on.
We have several changes of direction and they don’t. So angular momentum and the conservation of it is very different. This point is where golf gurus go into the world of incorrect…
In other words, anyone who mention the figure skater or a merry go round (slower horse to faster out horse) as a golf reference is wrong. Neither apply.
LEE Comoux and Mac are awesome, miss Lee's posts for sure.
Can you describe what Rory does?
Rory does nearly the same thing just on a more angled, or overhand, plane. His lead arm is pinned for braking.
Angled plane trick is to SEE it and trace it. A righty will have his left eye above the right eye on that plane. Turn your head on angled plane and notice it’s not the same as a normal horizontal. It’s a tilted view. So swing that way. Swing to eye line. The flag is higher in the frame. So reaching for it should look and feel different.
@@frozendivots1564 awesome lemme give that a try
@@frozendivots1564 I feel like to make all of this work your eyes have to be happy
@@andygaspare6207 on the Angled plane, for sure. Part of the reason I say underhand is more efficient. You already ‘see it’ correctly. In angled plane you are ‘shaking hands’ in a different direction, if you stay in plane. Your arms move differently relative to your body, because of that plane.
@@frozendivots1564 do you have a video on angled plane?
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This is the same move that Bryson had a huge breakthrough on a few years ago. Helped him hit consistent draws. He has a RUclips video where he catches the moment he figures it out
@@christopherxl I think I remember it but I thought it was different. Do you have the link?
@@frozendivots1564 ruclips.net/video/CuJpyMv_VZs/видео.html His is more specifically focused on the wrist motion